What do they mean by this
click bait garbage
>a generation of fans who grew up with the more recent trilogy make a compelling case that those are the superior films
Fucking eh, Millenials, you can't even do Star Wars correctly.
Who is "they"? What is "this"? "They" mean whatever they are trying to communicate.
"write something outrageous so dumb autists will rage and then share this on 4chan and reddit"
>>62767537
OFFICIAL RANKING LIST
4>5>3>6>2>1
What are these "prequels" they're talking about?
They mean that literally even prequel is better than return of the jedi
>>62767597
0/10
>>62767597
>>62767622
I agree on the sole fact that fucking ewoks were included in Return of the Jedi. The fucking ruined half the movie for me.
>>62767622
Not bait, return of the Jedi is a shit movie from start to finish. If you want to argue it's better than phantom menace fine, but revenge of the sith is objectively better
>>62767645
>ewoks are bad
nice meme
>>62767579
>3>6
That's where you fucked up
>>62767647
you HAVE to be retarded to think this
lets compare the climaxes of the two films shall we
>two overly-CG'd lightsaber fights preceded by some of the worst written dialogue ever penned by a human, followed by a character dying of a broken heart, and NOOOOOOOOO
>luke refusing to give in to his hate, throwing his lightsaber aside, and being willing to die for his ideals before being saved by his father who is ultimately redeemed by his love for his son, while rebels on endor destroy the shield generator and the death star
kill
yourself
>>62767697
Nah m8, you're autistic. The lightsaber fights are fucking great
>>62767718
i can understand how if you're a retarded little baby and your brain is easily appeased by flashy swords tapping each other and big lava effects and stuff you might think that fight scene - despite its terrible fucking dialogue and awful, AWFUL writing is good
but most people with brains instead of half-baked playdoh in their heads prefer the emotional climax of the entire original trilogy and redemption of darth vader to be not only the best moment in the series but one of the best moments in modern cinematic history so
>>62767579
>4>5
FINALLY SOMEBODY GETS IT
>>62767748
The worst parts of Return of the Jedi comprise the entirety of the prequels.
>>62767777
exactly. and the best parts(Jabba's palace, Luke vs. Vader) are the best of the series.
>>62767777
QUINTS CONFIRM
>>62767777
the worst parts of return of the jedi are still better than the best parts of the prequels
i dont think people who havent seen them for a while realize how terrible they are
>>62767579
>Adult Novels
4 > 5 > 6 > 1 > 2 > 3
Anyone else notice a pattern? It's like poetry
>>62767807
Vision impaired confirmed.
>>62767812
I just watched Phantom Menace tonight, and it's honestly not as bad as people make it out too be. Hating on the prequels is just a meme these days.
>>62767849
phantom menace is easily the most tolerable one because of liam neeson, the use of actual sets and puppets, and the darth maul duel being visually interesting if completely narratively detatched and pointless
the other two are foul wank
>>62767849
Who was the main character of the phantom menace
The prequels are irredeemable garbage but RotJ is shit too
>teddy bears
>another Death Star
>Han Solo's grand character arc ends with him hotwiring a door
>accidental retroactive incest
>the ruthless and cruel Darth Vader is now a "tortured" crybaby out of nowhere
>>62767579
>>62767597
>>62767647
>Revenge of the Sith is better than Jedi meme
objectively 5>6>4>1>3>2, even though I prefer Jedi over Empire.
Phantom Menace was the only prequel without Lucas' god awful romantic writing, had the most interesting villain (likely because he had little dialogue), and still had good looking visuals without going into relying on blue screen environments for every shot. It's still pretty bad though.
Nothing's as bad as Attack of the Clones, but Revenge of the Sith is a mess on so many levels, especially with how horrid the acting is outside of Sheev and Obi Wan hamming that shit up.
>>62767849
Hating the prequels is ancient, desu.
>The Phantom Menace sucked more!
>Attack of the Clones sucked more!
>>62767697
> followed by a character dying of a broken heart, and NOOOOOOOOO
I guess you haven't seen the blu-ray versions. Lucas fixed the ending for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3u70WELSEg
>>62767871
>>the ruthless and cruel Darth Vader is now a "tortured" crybaby out of nowhere
kill yore self boy
>>62767537
Thanks for using /v/ memes
>>62767878
I respect your opinion, but...
Objectively - 5>4>6>1>3>2
My opinion - 4>5>6>2>1>3
>>62767849
What the FUCK is this shit? Honestly, Redlettermedia said EVERYTHING that had to be said about the prequels why is there any notion of some kind faux positivity running around this board about them? Fuck you 10/10 I'm mad.
>>62767931
Sorry for liking things.
>>62767931
This. I used to think the prequels were alright until watching Plinket review them. Now I see why everyone thought they were horrible
>>62767945
It's not about liking things it's about liking something that was analyzed to death on why it's shit in an hour and a half video and still somehow thinking it's good.
>>62767931
>Redlettermedia
I stopped reading there, fuck off.
>>62767931
>>62767951
I remember thinking they were "cool" as a child/teenager, but I never really enjoyed them that much.
The youngling massacre was the first time a movie pissed me off.
>>62767812
This. I sat down with a staunch prequel defender and watched a few scenes on YouTube and they refused to believe they were real. they were embarrassed for ever saying the prequels were good. My gf liked them in the theater but we watched episode 2 together and she was dumbfounded.
Go watch the prequels tomorrow if they're so great. I couldn't. But I could watch the OT again and again. People just don't remember or want to remember. Also most movies aren't horrible until the second viewing when you realize none of it ever comes together in any meaningful way. Tdkr was like this for me, I knew it was a turd but couldn't explain why until I saw it again a year later.
The whole 3>6 meme is half trolls and half apologists who want to meet some kind of middle ground.
>>62767579
5 4 6 1 3 2
>>62767967
Strike a nerve there, bucko?
>>62767973
I'm a 3>6 fag and I genuinely think it's a better movie because of the fucking ewoks. They ruin the entire movie.
>>62767970
It made no sense. All their teachers were dead anyways. Why not take a few back to become Sith? Why kill them if they pose zero threat and all the Jedi either are dead or went into hiding
>>62767554
I was born in 1997. Fuck the prequels
>>62767967
any counter points faggot?
didn't think so
They mean
Please click and leave angry comments you stupid tools also click the ads
>>62767999
Ewoks is another meme imo. I just watched 6 and they hardly do anything. They trip some storm troopers and smash an AT-ST with logs. Other than that they are a pretty reasonable tribal race. They have a bit too much screen time, but nothing like what people exagerrate. I do agree 6 is the worst of the OT but for different reasons, ewoks are a silly minor thing that people who can't formulate opinions attack. (people who parrot redlettermedia are no better. But he kind of sums up every complaint so it's hard not to sound like you're copying him)
Plus 6 has scout troopers and speeder bikes. And the dialogue between Luke and sheev. But if you really do hate ewoks I guess that's fine. I have an irrational hatred of cgi sets. Not even cgi monsters, just the fucking sets that could have been physical would have gone a long way.
>>62767849
>attempts to argue in favor of the prequels
>posts that ridiculous fucking shot.
5>4>3>6>2>1
This is objectively correct and if you disagree you are mentally retarded
>>62768342
I could understan someone thinking 3>6 (even if I don't agree).
But 2>1?
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!!! 2 is the worst movie of the franchise, even worst than the fucking Ewoks movies.
>>62768342
>if you disagree you are over 18
Fixed that for ya, bud.
>>62768342
5>4>6>1>3>2
You are mentally retarded if you think 2 is better than anything.
3 is just boring as fuck, literally just lightsaber flights and flashing colours. Sure 1 had jar jar but other than that it had some interesting stuff that was actually entertaining.
>>62767579
>Repuiblic Commando isn't canon
Will the pain ever stop?
Anyone who rates Jedi below any prequel is fucking retarded.
The Ewoks aren't 10 times as bad as any of the retarded antics of any of the prequels.
>>62768409
Only good part of 1 was lightsaber duel at the end. At least the battle of Geonosis was good. I also don't understand why people hate the political aspect of Star Wars so much
>>62768409
Episode 2 has the cantina scene, which might be my favorite part of the prequels.
>>62768447
Ewoks aren't the only bad part of it. The whole fucking movie is just a giant dump all over how great the rest of the originals are
>>62767812
I watched 1&2 yesterday, they are no where near as bad as you make them out to be, they are not great though.
>>62767962
It's called not being impressionable and being able to enjoy things whether or not someone else goes to autistic lengths to say it's shit.
>>62768484
maybe if you're a retard
>>62768518
no, they're worse
every line of dialogue is terrible
every single delivery hayden tries his damndest to do falls flat on its fucking face
the love story
the narrative not making any god damn sense
the terrible fake looking CG sets and awful fucking CG characters
they are abortions of cinema
the mustafar scene in 3 is The Room levels of ridiculousness, there's a reason every line in that scene is a meme
>>62768661
No you're a retard if you find rotj anything other than painful
4 = 5 > 6 >>>>>> 3 > 1 >>> 2
2 is fucking awful. Way too much CGI and it looks like shit, annoying forced romance, terrible characterization, plot holes everywhere, and generally just very unengaging. I watched it recently and felt empty.
Episode 1 has some nice sets here and there, Darth Maul is cool, and the podrace is entertaining. Episode 3 has Sheev and sheer cheesiness. Episode 2 is just terrible from start to finish.I guess Jango Fett is okay but maybe I'm just favorable to the actor because he voice acted in so many Star Wars games, seems like a cool guy.
>>62767970
I remember as a kid always having to avert my eyes in Phantom Menace when he yells IT'S WORKING, IT'S WORKING. I didn't understand why I did that, but now I realize I was cringing at the awful, awful acting. And I was fucking 6 at the time.
>>62767919
"What did he mean by this" is a /tv/ meme though.
>>62767987
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Can't even count tbqh $mh pham
>>62767748
>one of the best moments in modern cinematic history
Pls no
I like Phantom Menace.
>>62767579
>3 better than 6
Do you get some sick fucking pleasure over pissing people off on the Internet by sharing objectively wrong opinions?
ROTJ was sort of a mess in terms of plot and pacing, but there was much more heart in the Vader-Luke-Emperor scenes, the Jabba the Hutt skirmish, and the space battle over Endor than all the prequels combined. If you cut out the middle of the movie, replace ewoks with wookies, and have a more satisfying final scene, it would be A New Hope tier.
>>62767579
>>62768342
Sheev is more entertaining in 3 but the rest of the movie is so mind-numbingly boring it doesn't hold a candle to 6.
>>62769049
>adding nothing new to the discourse aside from ironic complaint
inb4 >responding to pasta but I have no idea how someone could come away with this impression unless you only ever watch the first minute of their reviews where they do the wacky showman bullshit
that said, I do hate that we can't go 2 threads on this board without someone bringing the fuckers up
>>62767849
>i shouldn't kill him, it's not the jedi way!
>Sheev: DO IT
>slices his head off in a split second
Yeah quality story telling there, Jorge.
>>62767967
George, you're never going to get around to those smaller personal projects of yours if you keep shitposting on /tv/. You're almost 70, man. Make that prequel to THX 1138 while you still can.
>>62767537
4=5>6>lung cancer>1>2>3
It's not but it's true that the prequels were more ambitious. Instead of a simple black and white story they tried to be more ambiguous. Padme in Revenge of the Sith says that perhaps they (the Republic) was wrong because they didn't listen to other people's problems (meaning the taxation I suppose).
Plus Windu tries to kill an unarmed prisoner. The Jedi code may be one of the reasons why Anakin turned to the dark side.
>>62768444
>Clone wars Cartoon is canon
>Repuiblic Commandos have a cameo in the cartoon
>Ergo, Repuiblic Commando is canon
6>5>4>3>1>2
>>62767579
Luke v Vader and sheev duel > Vader v obi wan, endor space battle > ep 3 space battle, jabbas place > rescuing sheev. Even the endor ground battle is better then the cgi fest battles in ep 3. The problems with 6 would of been solved had they gone with the original ideas of Han dying and staging a wookie rebellion.
>>62767748
The prequel fights were way better bro
>>62767931
I watched the RLM review of episode 1, it was really garbage. You could tell the guy was a huge fanboy who couldn't see blatant faults in the original trilogy. His funny voice shtick was really grating, too.
They are all equally popcorn flick fodder and whichever era you grew up with is the era you like most
Watch out for that vicious bounty hunter Boba Fett, Luke. Did I ever tell you I fought his dad? He was hired to assassinate a senator me and your father were guarding. We kept bringing her around open windows and public areas in order to draw the would-be assassin out because we knew he had too much pride to just shoot her from long range. He had used his payment to hire another bounty hunter to kill the senator for him while he sent us on a wild bantha chase. Also the 2nd assassin used her payment to buy a robot to assassinate the senator for her. Did I mention the 2nd assassin was a shapeshifter? She could have been a good friend in disguise and just shot the senator for all we knew! Then the robot used its payment to buy poisonous bugs to release into the senator's room while she slept after lasering a hole through the window. It could have just lasered her too after that because we we weren't watching her at all, but it already bought the bugs. So we sense the hostile life forms (not the robot) in the room and rush in and save the senator in the nick of time! Then I jumped out the window to chase the robot back to its owner! Luckily it didn't have a self-destruct function. Then we found the 2nd assassin and chased her across the planet, and caught her when she tried to kill us instead of shapeshifting and escaping. But to our surprise, Jango Fett was watching the whole thing instead of going to kill the senator while we were away chasing the bugs chasing the robot chasing the shapeshifter. He shot her with a poisonous dart instead of sniper blaster, and only her instead of shooting all of us or blowing all of us with a rocket or something, then he escaped with his tiny jetpack. Luckily for the senator, my good friend Dexterr Jettster owned a 50s dinner on Courscant that had Republic secrets on the menu along with cheeseburgers and malt shakes. We found the assassin and Mace Window killed him later, right in front of Boba. And he was a good friend.
>seriously discussing clickbait and generating hype for kuck wars
man /tv/ y u so dumb
>>62769569
I don't even have to read this to get a chuckle out of it anymore
>>62769546
I recently watched it too. And as someone who isn't really a fan of Star Wars at all, I always thought the 'prequels are shit' thing was way overblown and they weren't that much shitter than the OT.
But he's nnow convinced me pretty thoroughly that they are terrible.
>>62769569
In all seriousness, is there some kind of in-universe justification for that fucking terrible assassination sequence, other than George thinking it would make a cool chase scene?
I'm curious what the mega SW autists say about it.
>>62767999
The final five minutes of the movie having midget wookies ruined the whole movie for you? Fuck off.
>>62767829
>star wars
>>62769426
>opinions
>objectively anything
>>62769607
its a film for children
>>62767579
>Prequels
>Canon
Anon please.
>>62767838
This!
5>4>6>4>1>2
>>62769723
>Originals
>canon
See I can do it too. Doesn't make it any true though.
>>62767867
Exactly. J.J. Binks is annoying as fuck and the film is mediocre overall, but it never gets as shitty and cringy as the two sequels.
>>62767579
Can someone tell me if this list is correct? The list with all the pictures are too fucking blurry to read on this iPod I can only see this pic. And this iPod is to old to load the wiki pages of what is canon starwars without crashing. Please someone tell me if they have the same content.
>>62769746
There is nothing before the original movies, the first two are heralded as masterpieces. And you cannot have the sequel trilogy without the originals.
The prequels are garbage, they are poorly written, their use of early CGI had allowed them to age horrible, and the continuity doesn't make any sense. Big offenders would be the concept that Obi-Wan Kenobi went from being in his mid 30s to mid 60s in the span of 20 years, that all the pretty shiny technology in the prequels is eschewed for gritty bulky vehicles and technology in the near future, and that Princess Leia remembered her mother in Return of the Jedi but Padme dies during childbirth in Episode 3.
The only proper thing to do is recognize that the Prequels and not canon, it makes enjoying Star Wars all the more easier without having to think about Lightsaber wielding Yoda and the Force being powered by Midichlorians instead of being a matter of spirit.
>>62767579
>>62767838
>>62767878
>>62767928
>>62767987
>>62768342
>>62768443
>>62769516
>>62769727
you guys are missing TWOK
>>62769837
Is Samurai Jack - Clone Wars canon?
>>62769963
Nope, got nixed, only CG clone wars is canon now
>>62767579
KOTOR isnt canon? But they even released a patch for it after Disney bought it all
>>62768661
CG sets??? Prequels had real fucking sets. I don't disagree with you but get your damn facts right ffs!
>>62767579
transgender main character in Episode VIII?
>>62770207
The prequels were largely blue-screen, dude.
>>62769894
Nah the Prequels retcon the shit out of the OT so they aren't canon anymore.:^)
>>62770043
im glad bioware's shit franchise has been de-canoned. Fucking zabraks were mad by a giant machine, everything about the rakata, there was an empire and a republic centuries before the movie empire and movie republic...all that shit ruined star wars for me. thank you based disney, senpai.
>>62769894
>>62769746
>>62769723
>watch the original trilogy in unaltered state
>they're not Canon
So if they're not canon, then the prequels may as well not be canon in the context of those movies.
There are two Star wars universes
The "Canon" universe where the shitty prequels are Canon
And the universe where the theatrical edition exists
:^)
4>5>6>1>3>2
Also, I predict:
4>5>7>6>1>3>2
Return of the Jedi is very barely watchable desu.
>>62770269
>I essentially played KotOR 1 and 2 on the original Xbox every day for a year when I was 13.
Fuck off man. I think both of those games are absolutely incredible. It's better science fantasy than the movies desu.
4>5>KotOR 1=KotOR 2>6
>>62767537
That is impressively blatant click bait
>>62769569
fucking Attack of the Clones man
>>62767579
R E D D I T
6 > 5 > 4 > 3 > 1 > 2
>>62767537
The prequels had a better template (aka pretty much invented Jedi Academy and Jedi/Sith hierarchy).
The originals had better acting and story composition.
>>62769569
> a 50s dinner on Courscant that had Republic secrets on the menu along with cheeseburgers and malt shakes
my fucking sides
>>62768398
Yeah but Claudia Grey is actually a good writer, and despite her looks, hasn't shoehorned SJW feminist bullshit into anything.
Lost Stars is one of the best SW books. READ IT. Or listen on Audible like I did.
>>62767537
I think they mean "Shocking new study reveals that kids who grew up with the star wars prequels are mentally retarded."
5>4>6>1>2>3
I think objectively Sith is probably a better movie than clones, I just hate it more because this movie was really the one that I had been waiting for since I was a kid and it ruined everything.
>>62768398
what is this supposed to show, exactly?
>>62767849
i agree man im from reddit and i loved the prequel so much. they dont have jar jar in the trilogy what a fucking joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJTsQEoIcvA
>Return of the Jedi is bad!!!!!
fuck off
>>62767849
The Phantom Menace is the only halfway decent prequel. Watch Attack of the Clones and see if you still have the will to live.
>>62770495
>I think both of those games are absolutely incredible. It's better science fantasy than the movies desu.
I have agree. The story of KOTOR (not the MMMMMMMMORRRR shit) is superior to the original movie trilogy, imo. Not saying that it could stand on its own, but the writing was immensely engaging.
>>62769569
>Nute Gunray hires Count Dooku
>Count Dooky Hires Jango Fett
>Jango Fett hires Shapeshifter
>Shapeshifter hires robot
>robot hires bugs
>>62768182
>Jabba the Hutt
>Rancor
>Sarlaac
>Slave Leia
>Sheev
>Scout Troopers
>Speeder Bikes
>AT-STs
>TIE Interceptors
>Force Lightning
>best confrontation vs. good and evil scene in movies with Sheev Vader and Luke
Jedi had some of the most memorable things about Star Wars in it and it's shit on just because people didn't think the Ewoks were the best thing ever created.
>>62769894
>>62769723
>I'm a big whiny baby that can't get over shit that happened over ten years ago.
>>62770223
And most of those backgrounds they put in later were miniatures
5>4>6>3>1>2
>>62767748
B T F O
T
F
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>>62772384
>everything he said was wrong
>btfo
>>62767537
they mean nothing. this is nothing but lies.
>>62767849
NO! FUCK YOU! 15 minutes of good scenes don't make up for a thourougly bad movie. you watch 1 & 2 once so you can fully appreciate 3. that's it. maybe rewatch battle of fates if you feel like it
>>62767849
>raymancantwakeup.jpg
>>62767537
>"Reddit this!"
>prequelfags are redditors wanting upvotes
Seems about right
>>62767579
>2
>Better than 1
>Better than any of the movies
Surely this opinion doesn't actually exist
>>62773228
>>62772252
1 is the worst by a landslide, a bad kiddie movie, only bearable if it's somehow your first Star Wars and you're 8. Putting it on any other place than the last just shows that your literally retarded
>>62767537
Lemme translate that for you.
>CLICK ME CLICK ME PLEASE CLICK ME
>I STUDIED SOMETHING USELESS IN UNIVERSITY
>I NEED TO AD REVENUE
>PLEASE CLICK ME OH GOD
>im not ready to be an adult *sob*
Hope that clears things up.
>>62767931
http://thestarwarstrilogy.com/starwars/post/2014/09/03/The-108-page-rebuttal-to-Mr-Plinketts-Phantom-Menace-review
>>62769313
>>62767579
5>4>6>3>1>2
Anyone who says any different are retarted. I MEAN IT YOU GUYS!
>>62768457
Same, honestly. It gives a little insight into how Sheev was so successful in turning the Republic into the Empire.
>>62767697
It's b8 my boi.
>>62769569
>She could have been a good friend in disguise
>>62767579
6 > 4 > 1 > 5 > 3 > 2
Definitive order.
>>62771842
Are you defending the movie where the empire builds the Death Star 2.0 and the rebels blow it up again? At least the prequels had original ideas and took risks. I bet you can't wait for the rebels attack on the third death star.
>>62767987
This is correct
>>62773381
Attack of the Clones is unwatchable. It is unbearably dull. 2.5 hours of Anakin whining about padme and obi-wan.
>a generation of fans who grew up with the more recent trilogy make a compelling case that those are the superior films
This is meant to make redditor Millennials mad. Millennials have an irrational hatred of the prequels becuase there not as nerdy and vintage as the originals.
>>62773381
>>62774570
This guy summarizes 2 perfectly, 1 is terrible but sitting through "muh sand" "padme i love you" "Someday I will be the most powerful Jedi ever" and overall just Anakin whining, being dark and edgy makes 2 a fucking shitshow and 1 being more bearable and calling someone a retard doesn't make your argument valid.
They were objectively better.
>>62771842
>Brilliant
Why is this the only adjective I've seen on films lately?
>the cinematography was brilliant
>their acting was brilliant
>that subtle line/easter egg was brilliant
Reddit once again ruins everything
>>62767870
jar jar
>>62767537
They mean they have zero taste and are proud of it
>>62767645
>implying ewoks are worse than gungans or roger roger robots
>>62774941
They're both horrible. No need to put one of them over the other.
>>62768000
I always thought they should have been taken captive and trained to become the red imperial guard you see in jedi, would have been less cringy and less retarded
>>62768182
Yeah ewoks are fine, the worst parts about Jedi are:
1. The absolute lowest point in the original trilogy, the tarzan yell
2. Chewie/Han/Leia/Lando are really kind of pointless in this movie
3. The first half was a small scale personal struggle followed by an epic galaxy saving battlefield, it doesnt really fit, but they had to do it because muh han solo. Also the first half's plan to rescue han solo makes about as much sense as anything in the first prequel.
>>62775430
I see your point, but two in my opinion is the worst of the prequels, I cringe when I remember this : "I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I hate them!"
>>62767579
>4>5
This so much.
>>62767748
People with brains don't watch Star Wars tbqhwymf
ITT: Stupid angsty kids pretend to like the prequels and then stupid people being sincere tell them they're wrong
You're all just feeding obvious bait, is it bait to pretend to respond to the bait that I'm just not getting or what? All of this "prequel good" it's just obvious bait brought on by trash kids who only grew up with "haha you le mad I WIN" and don't know anything else in life. Just let the thread die.
>>62774398
This is not even backwards they are just in a random order;
>>62775612
Why does luke look like tilda swinton?
>>62775510
>Also the first half's plan to rescue han solo makes about as much sense as anything in the first prequel.
But at leastgetting caught was part of their plan
>>62775652
He was originally going to be played by her, and was going to be a transgender character.
I'm positive Mike Stoklasa is ITT
>>62775683
Thats the problem though, getting caught is retarded, Chewie is subjected to torture for hours, maybe days, Leia is turned into a slutty dancer and possible sex slave, C3P0 and R2D2 get turned into workers with restraining bolts (presumably) that wouldnt allow them to act independently, but when the shit hits the fan it just all magically works out. Its fine if youre just watching the movie with your suspension of reality intact, but the second you think about it, you realize leia could have spent all her time being gang raped, chewie could have just been executed or so messed up he couldnt do anything to help, R2 and C3P0 could have been dismantled or junked, or put somewhere they couldnt help, the whole plan is retarded.
The only way out of it is to pretend Luke had some magical foresight into how things would play out, which granted might be possible with the force, but seems pretty cheesy and shit way to do things regardless.
>>62767579
5>4>6>3>1>2
I think a lot of ideas in the prequels were fine
George just shouldn't have surrounded himself with yes men
I like how its suppose to be structured like a symphony...it just didn't work out that well
>>62767647
No it's not. You're objectively intellectually inferior to me.
>>62776106
That is the thing. No one said anything to "upset" him.
Its like when King Kong flopped. The studio had so much faith in Jackson that they let him do whatever he wanted.
>>62769490
Close,
4 = 5 > 6 > full blown AIDs > 3 > 1 > 2
>>62767537
>>62767870
>implying
go back to reddit letter media you sheep
>>62767931
Dude I LOVE red letter media, you must be a thoughtful individual JUST LIKE ME
>>62769605
The RLM review really excessively say everything that needs to be said about the prequels. People like to trash the reviews because it's trendy to seem contrarian, but honestly they're never wrong.
The prequels found a way to make Star Wars boring and soulless.
>>62767849
I really liked the trade federation.
The blockade was fucking epic
>>62776642
they made good points in their review.
What's with that the prequels aren't that bad posting lately?
Ep 1 and 2 are really bad.
>>62776967
Contrarians. With the new movies coming out and ignoring the prequels, they're going in full force claiming that the prequels were better and kids today won't understand that.
>>62776967
>Ep 1 and 2 are really bad.
Ep. 1, to me, is the only good prequel movie.
2 is the worst and 3 has become overrated.
>>62777108
the second half of 3 is not bad
the fist is just people sitting around.
>>62769505
>>62768444
The characters are canon, but the game is not.
Sev's alive.
>>62767931
>Sucking on Plinkett's pizza roll this hard
>>62768398
>leaving out Traviss
>>62777544
>another contrarian reveals himself
>>62777108
To me 1 feels like it has no structure at all and 2 actually has some mystery and pacing to it. Except for the Maul scenes, phantom menace is the worst.
>>62774511
>a bad retrodden concept makes the entire movie bad
>a bad retrodden concept makes a movie worse than a movie filled with terrible new concepts with terrible details filling them up
You got your reply, well done.
The bulk of the Red Letter Media Plinkett reviews is spent establishing that the prequel films are different from those made decades earlier. That's about it. From there, we get a very basic thesis: "I like Star Wars. The prequels are different. I don't like things that are different."
That is the claim, but /tv/ has revealed the truth: Star Wars fans do not actually like Star Wars.
And this has a very basic meaning: the 'Original Trilogy' of Star Wars films - A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return Of The Jedi - are objectively different from what fans claim them to be. If Star Wars fans claim to like a visually neutral simulation with a generic plot, whose only achievement was to contain 'likable characters', then we can safely conclude that they do not actually like Star Wars - because Star Wars is not that.
And that's where we get into weird territory where RLM mock the idea that Star Wars is 'art', and literally claim that only filmakers like Jim Jarmusch are capable of making 'art'. The minute we examine this claim in any detail, the edifice collapses. What it ultimately reveals is a failure to read.
>>62778561
Waiter, I ordered a Katana pasta from the verdant fields of /tg/, not some bait pasta.
>>62778561
So autistic. So wrong. You missed the point
>>62767579
5>4>>>>>1>6>>>>>2>3
Don't let nostalgia cloud your judgement. Every film made after Empire has been terrible, just some more terrible than others.
>>62778561
>we get a very basic thesis: "I like Star Wars. The prequels are different. I don't like things that are different."
Incorrect. RLM is very specific as to why the prequels don't work and they have absolutely nothing to do with simply being different. The rest of your post is pure bullshit as it is based on your false claim.
I've seen people actually trying to explain how episode 4 is better than 5.
Exactly why do people say this? Is it a meme?
>>62767579
>This isn't canon anymore
Damn, they made great use of the original Star Wars drafts being implemented in this game. Story was great, it will remain my headcanon rather than the hard-PG funfest that is Rebels.
>>62775795
I've always seen it as multiple sets of plans fucking up
Lando goes there to stake out the place, but can't really pull anything off
Luke sends C3PO and R2D2 as a gift to Jabba in the hopes he releases Han, but he doesn't
Leia and Chewie try their thing, but then Leia gets captured and turned into a sex slave
and in the end Luke has to go in and fix everything personally (and even he just lucks out with the whole escape)
>>62768398
this picture has actually made me angry
>>62768398
triggerd, shitlord
>>62778995
Here is your challenge.
Name ONE good part about the Phantom menace.
No deflecting, no trying to say "b-b-but ROTJ did..." or "But at least it's not as bad as AoTC/ROTS!". Tell me one good thing about the Phantom Menace that stands up by itself.
Who in their right mind honestly think Episode III is better than RotJ?
Stupid cunts.
>>62781753
the lightsaber duels
the droid army wrecking the MEESA planet
>>62767579
You still didn't even fix the YA section even after I told you to.
>>62781753
Sio "jumps to conclusions" Bibble
This chair
>>62781753
Music, sound design, a lot of the practical sets and props, maybe Ewan McGregor and Sheev's acting, the podracing scene.
I think The Phantom Menace is a 3/10 stinker but there were very specific things I like about it. Don't pretend it's all bad.
>>62767579
4>5.
No.
>>62781753
Alright, >>62778995 here
>Mostly practical special effects
Visually one of the biggest problems with the prequels is in II and III you have dozens of scenes that are entirely CG for no purpose. The actors acting suffered greatly as a result because many didn't know what they were looking at and/or were overwhelmed with the sea of blue screen. Less CG and more practical effects and real sets gives Episode I a much better visual feel than the other prequels because there isn't a bunch of busy shit going on all the time. The over-reliance on CG badly, badly aged Episodes II and III as well. The transition to Episode II in this regard is visually jarring and allowed Lucas to do more dumb shit, which he did (i.e. puppet Yoda in I and bouncing lightsaber CG Yoda in II).
>Set, costume, character design was fantastic
Things like Amidala's Manchu-inspired wardrobe are fantastic (I liked the juxtaposition of Roman architecture and Central Asian nobility).
>Combat
Combat is fantastic, from lightsaber duels being faster than ever before, but without going full-retard like in II and III. Blaster combat is also well done.
Basically shit George didn't touch was fantastic. Phantom Menace does have a few good one-off lines, much like Return, but both movies have terrible dialogue.
>>62779339
The only part of it that makes sense though is Lando, you send your droids in, Han isnt going to be let go because of a couple of stupid droids, so now you have to rescue the droids too, Leia and Chewie go in, but even in the best case scenario where Leia walks away with Han, Chewie is now a prisoner and you have to go in and get him, along with the droids, and now Leia got caught, and Luke goes in without any weapons and tries to bullshit his way out, none of it makes sense. Its pants on head retarded.
>>62781998
>the lightsaber duels
Choreography with no heart or meaning
>the droid army wrecking the MEESA planet
Retarded Jar Jar wrecking enemy forces over and over until he and the general are somehow the last ones left
You have no taste.
>>62782540
>i.e. puppet Yoda in I
To be fair it was a shitty puppet.
Or rather, the plainer paint job, the goggly eyes, and the camera staying still on Yoda bobbling there as he spoke, it just looked weird. It would look fine in a Jim Henson movie like The Dark Crystal or Labyrinth, but it didn't suit the look of Star Wars. In The Empire Strikes Back he was walking around and riding on Luke's back and stuff. It looked a lot more natural.
>>62767579
5>4>3>6>1>2
The original trilogy in general had the better films, but the prequels had better lore and backstory despite not being executed properly.
>>62768006
I bang chicks your age and use alcohol to do so. I'm 25.
>>62769569
>Luckily for the senator, my good friend Dexterr Jettster owned a 50s dinner on Courscant that had Republic secrets on the menu along with cheeseburgers and malt shakes
Congrats, this is the best post on /tv/ at the moment.
>>62783069
>bang chicks
You have to be 18+ to post here mate. Come back in a few years
>>62767878
this is the correct ranking
>>62767777
trufh
>>62767579
no you dummy it goes
5>4>6>3>2>1
4>5. (Just the American Film Institute entires.)
>>62782917
>midichlorians
>better lore
Nah.
>>62783466
>66
I feel bad for Lucas over the midochlorians stink.
I thin he put in that in there to deal with all the "it aint sci-fi" talk thats so popular.
>>62767870
Sheev.
>>62783466
>>62783583
I liked the midichlorians concept but the movies were real garbage
>>62767537
They meant the truth.
>>62781753
The production in general of that movie is top tier 90s
>>62769894
>Princess Leia remembered her mother in Return of the Jedi but Padme dies during childbirth in Episode 3.
I agree with the rest but if Leia is force sensitive she could in theory remember Padme. Thats just some more Dune wankery though.
Also she might just be remembering her adoptive mom.
But yeah what the fuck, George; all you had to do is watch the OT with a pen and paper.
Jar Jar being a sith lord actually redeems the prequels.
>>62784094
Would be cool if he were.
>>62784106
He was meant to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yy3q9f84EA
>>62767797
>Jabba's palace
If we somehow see Jabba in the new movies I'm gonna be pissed. Please show us something new. Why must we keep going back to Jabba the Hutt?
>>62769569
>But to our surprise, Jango Fett was watching the whole thing instead of going to kill the senator while we were away chasing the bugs chasing the robot chasing the shapeshifter.
>>62782917
/thread
this is pretty much the perfect order.
>>62767537
What's the argument? Is it social justice garbage?
Is Jar Jar the key to all this?
>>62782917
>better lore
Yeah that universe ruled by incompetent hippies and a droning senate that talked for at least five hours per movie was amazing and rich.
>>62779062
Yes, yes, we are given facts like "Whenever someone loses a lighsaber, Lucas shows insert shots of where it lands". But that doesn't mean anything. As to what this means, Plinkett doesn't say, except to imply this is some bizarre tic instead of having meaning or just coverage for editing.
The only remotely interesting thing I remember him pointing out is that TPM doesn't have one clear protagonist throughout the entire film, which even Plinkett admits is not a bad thing in and of itself. His argument is literally that it's bad when George Lucas does it simply because George Lucas is bad and not good, and so he's not allowed to do it. That's a valid opinion to have, I guess, but it's not really all that insightful.
He also admits (maybe jokingly?) at several points to being completely unable to understand what's going on in the films, misses out on almost literally every key thematic beat in the story, glosses over almost literally every single piece of significant imagery, lazily mocks the use of visual repetition as a narrative tool (a technique used extensively in many films and especially in the OT itself), dismisses the camerawork and blocking as being uniformly shitty and pedestrian by cherry-picking examples from both trilogies and ignoring any comparison that would run counter to his argument (of which there are quite a few), and at several points (likely deliberately) misrepresents what's going on in documentary footage in a way that borders on defamatory. And that's just a summary.
Thing is, he's not stupid, and he clearly knows his stuff. He was just so blinded by nerdrage that he apparently didn't even attempt, at any point, to honestly engage with the movies, even as a thought exercise. If he did, then he would have noticed at least some of this stuff, and even if he still thought they were shitty movies, he probably could have produced a more thoughtful and, in the end, robust critique that actually would provide some useful insight.
>>62784495
He presented it as a strange exception since virtually all of the blocking otherwise is very uniform.
>>62782917
>3>6
nah
>>62769451
>it's not the jedi way!
He doesn't say that until after he kills Dooku.
>>62773551
I actually read that trash and it's just the writing of a rabid, retarded fanboy. He claims to be objective, but he insults everyone at rlm in every second sentence. And he can't detect humor which lead me to believe that he is autistic.
>>62778561
That had nothing to do with Star Wars being art or not, it was meant to illustrate that Star Wars has a very broad, generic story, and that for a space adventure movie for mass audiences, that's probably what you should stick to.
Which is why having no clear protagonist is an issue. I certainly don't recall anyone saying there's nothing wrong with that. When you're telling a story like this, it's what you'd best stick to.
>>62784495
>given facts
>But that doesn't mean anything.
That means everything, you backpedaling faggot.
The original claim was that RLM only disliked it because it was simply different. Now you are saying that RLM gave specific examples but it doesn't mean anything.
Once again your premise is bullshit and the rest of your post is worthless.
MOVIES ABOUT LAZER POINTERS ONLY ENTERTAIN CATS AND BABIES GROW UP NOSTALGIA FAGS YOUR SPACE WIZARD MOVIES ARE SHIT
>>62769546
They recently came out with a commentary for ROTJ, they shit all over it
>>62767537
>Contrarian clicbait
Perfect for /tv/.
>>62779195
4 has a superior story structure as a stand-alone movie, everything else is worse
This isn't a fair comparison because empire couldn't be a stand-alone movie, it did the only thing it could do, be the next best thing
ANH vs ESB is like green apples vs red apples. ANH is an exciting story but isn't ripe, ESB is mastery but can't re-deliver that early spark and can never be a green apple again. ROTJ is rotten.
>>62783935
>I liked the midichlorians concept
This is one of those opinions that don't confuse or annoy me, I just feel bad for you
>>62767647
>>62767645
if you think the end confrontation with luke and emp does not make up for some ewoks, or that it is not more compelling than the whole preq trilogy then you should seriously consider staying in school because you are underage
>>62784077
Not only did leia say she remembered her mother, but obi wan explicitly states that he takes anakin to go on an "idealistic crusade" with the disapproval of owen lars. It implied anakin was much older and him and obi wan were closer to being peers.
Instead lucas makes anakin a slave child who is taken to be space jesus by qui gon, and owen lars is fucking nowhere.
A better movie had written itself decades before and lucas threw it out, of course.
what the fuck is happening
>>62767579
Empire is better than Hope.
>>62785467
The emperor sucks in ROTJ, vader saved the movie.
Instead of being cunning and seductive, the emperor is a psychopath. Which itself isn't a problem, the problem is he couldn't give luke a motive to join the dark side or join him. Also his plan makes no sense, say he made luke angry enough to fall from grace and kill vader, then what? Luke still has no reason to join the emperor.
>>62785692
new starwars movie coming out = kikes paying media outlets for star wars shit = media outlets trying to shift public opinion from the original trilogy to the new shit, which will invariably be closer to the prequels than the originals
>>62784141
I thought this theory was dumb when I first heard of the idea of it, but to tell you the truth, that's not half bad.
>>62784141
>>62785849
that is completely retarded and you should both feel bad for even thinking about it
>>62784794
>And he can't detect humor which lead me to believe that he is autistic.
Writing a 108 page response didn't lead you to believe he was autistic?
>>62785885
Not saying OMG IT'S TRUE!!!, but the parts about Jar Jar's jumping, handwaving at important points in the plot, and parallels with Yoda were interesting.
Lol'd hard at the idea that he indoctrinated Anakin to love Padme.
>>62767537
I refuse to refer to them as 1,2 & 3 when someone does that I want to slap their face, do they do that with any other film? No, they don't it's a fag SW thing.
