>It's a Marty doesn't want to reveal something about the past to his children so he hobbles to his bedroom episode
>It's a "Daphne wants to impress Niles and wants to have connect with him over his interests so she convinces herself that she likes the opera and other classy things" episode>watching Frasier after season 7
HEY BABY I HEAR
>it's a daphne massages roz's feet and i cum immediately episode
>>62713836
>It's a Daphnes mom episode
>It's a Daphnes brother episode
Whichever fucking retard producer wanted this, or allowed these people to return after their first attempt at 'humour' needed to be fired or at the very least removed from their position
Holy fuck they ruin every episode just by being there
>>62713878
to be fair, Frasier never went to shit or had characters become completely parodies of themselves
there was decline towards the end, sure, but it was light and steady dip rather than a complete disaster
>>62713836
Is that actor dead yet? I'm pretty sure the dog is.
>>62713928
it actually bounced back in the final season which was nice
>it's a roz shows cleavage episode
FUCK YOU ALL FOR GETTING THIS STUCK IN MY HEAD FOR THE PAST WEEK!!!!
>It took three Cranes to lift you.
>It's a Daphnee is dressed as a sexy nurse episode
requesting
>it's a Niles irons his pants episode
>>62713950
>>62713928
Yeah, I agree. I think that they removed an integral part of the show once Daphne and Niles got together though... but I suppose that they couldn't have kept that gag going forever anyway.
>>62714112
I liked seeing them together. I didnt like the idea they had to introduce a whacky brother and sister character to replace her void of a whacky english character.
She became more muted and never even brings up her psychic shit after a while... meanwhile I'm still watching s10 and it's still DAPHNE MY DAUGHTER I SMOKE AND I HATE YOUR FARTHER HA HA HAR
Brian cox was based though.
>>62713963
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xR1mb8p5YbQ
Fuck, you guys are making me want to rewatch this fucking show. Is it worth it to watch beginning to end
>>62714156
I think everybody was happy to see them together. It really bothered me that they removed Daphne's quirkiness from the show, and thus left a void to be filled by her mother and brother. I suppose this was probably the most logical thing to do though; Daphne's eccentricity might've become somewhat annoying and Flanderised after so many seasons.
>>62714202
yes. it's nice watching a couple episodes before bed
>>62714202
No. Three-camera sitcoms are virtually unwatchable now.
>>62714226
They shouldve given up on the brother and mother asap. They are insufferable.
I'd have written in a cousin of hers who happens to be hot to replace the void. Why mess with a good formula?
>>62714340
Yeah, that would've worked pretty well, or at least a mother who wasn't so annoying. Or even yet, perhaps an unseen relative to whom Daphne writes letters and about whom Daphne talks, reflecting about the letters they write/trinkets they send.
I barely even remember the mother and the brother
How long were they on there for even? I could swear it was only like a handful of episodes
>it's a daphne hints to a childhood filled with sexual and physical abuse episode
>>62714480
They were my favourite episodesnot because of that though
>>62713928
Niles and Daphne were shit together most of the time.
Frasier himself turned into a parody of himself and lost most of his redeeming qualities as he became nothing but a snobby whiner with an itchy burning stick up his ass in later seasons.
I like the series but come on, m8.
>>62713923
they're the Angel's Connor or Buffy's Riley and co of the show
goddamn painful and obnoxious to watch
britbongs look awful when surrounded by classy americans. deal with it
>>62714478
The mother hasnt left since the wedding, it feels like 20 episodes but i dont know
The brother was in a handful but its so fucking aggrevating
>>62714480
when was that?
>>62714585
>hey look at me I'm british and drunk
>and I am fucking annoying
>and I fuck everything up
>hahah don't you find me an oddly endearing loser, viewers?
>oh bollocks I fucked up again hah
>and I'm drunk hehe
I wish he had died.
>it's a bulldog literally rapes several women episode
>>62714637
>its me fake cockney accent that sounds nothing like me sisters nor me mums cause im an australian doing a fucking poor accent
>>62714658
>it's another Bulldog actually has feelings for Roz episode
>>62714521
I agree, sadly. Jane and David didn't have much chemistry at all as a couple. I think the character of Fraiser was progressed quite well though. It is a steady progression as he gets ever more lovesick and desperate, as he becomes increasingly attached to his hobbies and becomes more insecure about his image.
>>62714585
>>62714637
>>62714682
britbongs really are the worst
>>62714705
For an actor Niles really struggled acting straight
Everytime hed touch Daph it was like he was cradling a garbage bag
>>62714705
I like to think that their relationship was a horrible mistake and they were both trying to make it work when it wouldn't.
Niles was clearly infatuated with her and had her so built up in his mind that it's hard to know if he loved the real Daphne. Plus he had plenty of previous relationship issues to make things difficult.
And Daphne was probably desperate for any sort of serious attention from a classy man that she'd convince herself she loved Niles
>>62714729
what? Niles was an actual faggot?
I guess not all he did was actually acting since he was a pansy ass fuzzy peach poking poofter
>>62714718
>Americans have low/comical opinion of how Brits behave
>create characters that are basically cartoon characters for a tv show
>Americans form heir opinions of what Brits are like from these shows
the cycle continues
>>62714760
yep
Bulldog too, but he could pull off the straight Chad persona perfectly
I think the dad was as well, not sure. Definitely one of the other major characters though
the ravages of time
>>62714798
JUST
>>62714758
I agree. Niles' puppy-love was quite immature, and I found it awkward when the writers made the shift from Niles having cutesy boyish love for Daphne to 'proper' love for her. It messed with the show's dynamic and his characterisation too much.
I can't hypothesise too much about Daphne, since her character changed so much I don't think I can analyse her very well.
I'm by no means insulting the show - I'm a big fan of it and watch it whenever I can on TV; I'm just analysing how it had progressed, for better or worse.
>>62714786
Niles = gay
Bulldog = gay
Frasier's Dad = rumored to be gay, never married
Gil = gay just like his character on the show
I don't think I'm gonna enjoy Frasier rewatches anymore as much I used to.
>>62714798still would
>>62714885
it's one of the impossible problems with shows. Either you never progress the plot, in which case the show gets repetitive and tedious and feels forced, or you try to move it forward but that entails changing the characters and the dynamics that were the reason that people grew to love the show in the first place.
It's almost impossible to do, especially if it's a long-running show with no conclusion planned out
>>62714889
>can't enjoy something just because of private life of one of the people playing pretend
pretty gay desu
>>62714990
3-4 people, anon, 3-4
homosexuality is a mental illness and turns the inflicted people into degenerates and it spreads STDs quite effectively
>>62715034
>degenerates
except the actors playing Niles, Bulldog, and Martin hardly fell under that category. All of them kept being gay as a personal matter and didn't run around shoving it into people's faces.
If you want to hate on flaming faggots running around screaming about how much they love buttfucking, go for it, but don't lump the normal ones just doing their jobs in with the degenerates based solely on their sexuality.
>>62714990
I completely agree with that. It's why there aren't many successful long-running sitcoms. In my view, Frasier should've ended around 2000-ish (or around season 8ish). Niles and Daphne should've got married, had a baby very soonafter, and then the show ends... perhaps with Fraiser scheduling a lunch date with Lillith or something in the final episode. In saying that, I'm still greatful for the 11 seasons of Frasier, and I enjoy them all.
Hindsight is always in 20/20...
>>62715034
unless you fuck a gay guy i dont see how thats any of your problem
>>62714889
Just focus on the characters, the fact that they're gay is irrelevant.
>its a 'Bulldog has feelings too' episode
>>62715581
>It's a Bulldog does his catchphrase 'I lost something - where is it - im so angry - oh i found it' episode
really gets tired pretty fast
>it's a frederick episode
>It's a Frasier has an unsuccessful relationship episode(s)
>>62714798
hows roz holding up though?
>>62713928
Frasier turned into a wimpy faggot in the last season, it was pathetic to watch
>>62715791
pretty well preserved tbf
>>62716003
>It's a Roz is a slut episode
Remember when she was dating that garbage man? I think he dumped her or something. Dude was pretty Chad.
>>62713903
webm when?
>>62713923
>it's a Daphne has two different mothers across the seasons episodes
>>62716206
I dont remember the first? I just remember the stupid cunt blonde one
>It's an Alice is a toddler then a baby then a speaking toddler in successive episodes trilogy
I thought she just picked up some other ladies baby
what happens to frasiers son? he;s in a quite a bit and then just stops appearing
>>62716281
no one wants to actually see a child actor any more than absolutely necessary
they imply that frasier is visiting him often in boston
>it's an Alice talks like a retard episode
>Its a Marty has jungle fever episode
>>62716289
>they imply that frasier is visiting him often in boston
they do?
>it's an Eddie has died episode but not a single viewer even noticed it was a different dog because it's just a stupid dog that replaced a dead dog
>>62716346
False, while the dog playing Eddie stepped down midway, he survived the entire run of the show and came out to bow with the rest of the cast after the final episode.
>It's a You're not a member of The Chosen People episode
>It's a Kelsey Grammars voice is all fucked up episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KogUSnZLwYo
>>62716346
Eddie was portrayed by a dog named Moose from 1993-2000, after which he was replaced by his son Enzo, a pup sired with the specific intent to look as similar as possible to Moose. Frasier ended in 2004, Moose passed away in 2006.
You didn't notice a difference because there are people whose career it is to make sure you don't.
>>62716377
>are you as turned on as i am?
>>62716394
so he didn't replace a dead dog? thanks
>its a niles and daphne episode
>Its a Frasiers boss is that husky voiced slut who was the mum in Last Action Hero episode
Id love to fuck her tbqh senpaitachi
>>62716429
>it's a frasier's boss begs, BEGS for the D with tears in her eyes episode
Despite all it's flaws I love this show dearly. There's never been a more accessible sitcom to both highbrow and lowbrow audiences and the writers' abilities to transition between the two was honestly genuinely amazing.
I miss this show and I both long for and dread the day where another sitcom surpasses its quality.
>>62716472
I told a girl I was watching it and she said it was lame and that friends was better
The friendship is doomed but the sex and other benefits may continue
>>62716489
you're quite the storyteller, anon
1. friends
2. frasier
3. seinfeld
tbph
i fucking love frasier's faces and reactions when he notices niles fawning over daphne
>>62716513
>seinfeld
>frasier
>curb
>????
>sport of your voice
>anything else
>friends
>>62716513
I would say Frasier, Seinfeld, Friends. All 3 were good in their way but the first two, especially Seinfeld, had such a delightful bittersweet pessimism to them.
>>62716549
everything else > dog shit > curb
>>62716564
I agree. Friends was comparitively too glib and superficial.
>>62716569
>the end of the universe > the day before the end of the universe > the moment you posted this > your birth
>>62716583
They're fucking sitcoms.
Friends provided the most laughs on average but fuck Phoebe for becoming more and more annoying. Frasier was the most clever one of the three shows but it had its faults (most have been mentioned in this thread).
Seinfeld was pretty solid all the way through but it lacks a story and character development (oddly only George seems to have an actual life going on and the rest of the cast just does the exact same shit episode after episode) and I do know that's not really too important in a sitcom but eh it adds a little depth to the characters and at least for me makes them more interesting.
>>62716671
Yes, they are sitcoms, and I completely agree with the rest of your post.
>>62716671
>They're fucking sitcoms
>Sitcoms
>Sit Coms
>Shit Com
>Shit Comment
What did he mean by this?
>>62716671
Oh please, if anything Seinfeld was the most funny. Friends, was the least funny but the most entertaining, in that you could watch several episodes and find a lot of its humor dated or juvenile but still enjoy the show. I loved Friends but never actually laughed all that much whilst watching it.
>>62716671
>>62716727
Yeah I really could not give a fuck whether the characters grow or change so long as they cause or react in a funny way to situations placed upon them
If you want growth maybe you should focus on yourself, i'm just here for the lolswhich is why friends is dead last, it's trying to activate my feels more often than my lols and im not looking for feels, i don't want tto feel
>>62716739
>I don't want to feel
>>62716739
There's nothing wrong with character growth in a sitcom, as long as the character doesn't become a 'le maturity is not being funny anymore' type ala Scubs
>>62716739
edgy
>>62716727
>Seinfeld was the most funny.
oh yeah?
>Kramer semi-stumbles through the door: "H-hey!"
>audience bursts into laughter
>>62714889
Frasier = Alpha male Conservative that fucks hot bitches
He more than makes up for the rest of the cast.
>>62717157
>Frasier = Alpha male Conservative that fucks hot bitches
I guess when you've given up all hope for yourself it becomes important to feel as though you can live vicariously through a fictional character.
>>62717109
redditor detected
You just didn't get it man
Niles and Daphne had the best sitcom romance of all time and stand tall as literally the only "will they won't they" gag that's ever actually worked, and anyone who thinks otherwise can fucking fight me.
>>62714889
john mahoney is openly gay
>>62713836
It's really something else the first time you see Marty's actor in an interview and realize he's a flaming homosexual.
>>62718105
Source? I've never heard this before. As far as I know, his sexuality is unknown and Mahoney has never discussed it.
>>62718108
Link?
>>62718124
I don't have one, I just saw him on an old EW episode once and instantly knew it. He even did the gay hand flappy thing. Swear to god.
>>62713972
Every damn time
>>62718123
why don't you google it before asking?
>>62718234
I've Googled it before. I fact, I did it in the last Frasier thread in which we talked about this.
>>62718154
this is not the interview but I see no gay mannerism here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Acgxt9Ww0M
>>62716377
>Fraiser and the audience expecting it to be the same situation with Kate in season 2
>>62718256
Except for the part where he's gushing about his love for the theatre (the entire interview), sure.
>>62716289
>often
Like once every few months. More like once a year outside of holidays.
>>62714202
Probably not somethign I'd marathon ever, or really watch closely, but still good quality. Kinda stuff you can just have an episode or two going while you do stuff.
>>62718298
>only gay men love theatre
and I did say mannerisms, closetfag
>>62718317
Trust me, find one where he's excited and you'll see it.
>>62718298
>implying liking theatre makes you gay
I mean, it does, but still. We need more to go on here.
>it's a Dad I want to spell episode
>it's a Marty gets butthurt because his sons think they're smarter than him episode
>it's a Crane brothers find out that Niles had a clearly higher IQ than Frasier and Frasier takes it surprisingly well episode
>it's a Frasier watches Daphne shower episode
>>62718602
>Frasier takes it surprisingly well episode
Did you finish the episode?
>>62714798
This milf has GOAT legs though.
>it's a frasier demonstrates judo episode
>>62718674
brehs...
I'm working through the series but I've just seen the episode where Frasier and his brother open a restaurant and I'm pretty disappointed.
I feel like there's two shows in there. One with deeper, intelligent characters who make witty observations and spar with eachother, and another that is a goofball sitcom where characters overreact and there is lots of physical humour.
I get that some people prefer the latter, and would love the restaurant episode, but at this point I care about Frasier and want him to have some success, not just lose everything in a goofy way because he's suddenly acting very irrationally.
Basically I'm asking if the show heads in the goofy direction from this point, or if there are still episodes like "The Show Where Lilith Comes Back" with deeper emotion and morality. I just like Frasier and Niles as characters too much to see them fuck up every week and act stupid.
>>62718964
Also Lilith 10/10 hottest character
>>62718964
It's a mix from beginning to end. There are plenty of those deeper gems still to be had in the later seasons.
>>62718964
It continues like that until the end of the show: mostly deep intelligent emotional episodes, with the occasional goofball episodes thrown in. The goofball episodes get more common as the show gets older though, but you can't go wrong with seasons 1-8.
>>62718908
>>62719041
Oh, momma!
>>62718964
It's not two different shows, it's the most brilliant blend of high brow and low brow + physical humor seen in a single show to date.
>>62719136
kekd
>tfw John Mahoney still walks with a limp even though nothing is wrong with him. Simply because he played Marty for so many years and it is ingrained in him now.
>>62719318
Based. That's dedication.
>>62719318
fuck is that true
>it's a producer and his wife get hurled into the World Trade Center episode
>It's a Frasier gets keked by Niles episode
>>62720910
kek
>>62720910
why you gotta be an edgelord in a frasier thread my man?
>>62721767
butthurt
>>62713946
it was Moose
then Moose's offspring.
>>62713928
No, it did start to get worse. When every joke lost its timing, you know its time to stop
>Don't worry Frasier, I won;t think about that painting
>.2s later
>I MUST HAVE IT
>laughter
Its like once the characters flanderize themselves, every joke gets jammed in so theres no room for timing
>Marty always makes cracks about how he wishes his sons were more popular and athletic normies during high school
>named them fucking Frasier and Niles
What did he expect?
>>62717241
I think he was referring to the real life Kelsey Grammer. The man is known for going after a lot of hot younger women and is pretty far conservative.
The character Frasier was shown to be socially liberal multiple times.
>>62723429
Their mother named them after her lab rats.
