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Legendarys nobody plays edition

>RESOURCES

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

>CARD SEARCHING

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface
http://www.magiccards.info
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Trying to build a silly mono blue stax deck with this guy. Any suggestions? Trying to keep it somewhat flavorful with lots of Moonfolk, fog bank etc. It kinda feels more like an Azami deck right now, and she is in the 99 as a wincon since every single moonfolk is also a wizard, but with lots of fun ways to interact with the commander.
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>>48244859
Whoops, list so far:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/patron-stax/
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>>48244702
I don't understand why they arent popular
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>>48245061
Because they A) get you hated out of the game and B) are really goddamn expensive now.
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>>48245061
wow they spiked fro 14 to 21
But Kaalia is still played and is more expensive and hard to protect, as while esper provides natural defensive control to survive
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>>48245061
Guy in my group plays this and never ends up casting it due to the hate it gets once its out
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>>48245216 was mean for >>48245135
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>>48245061
Only hitting one player in a multi player format is pretty bad. Not to mention taking people's stuff is the easiest way to draw hate after landD
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So is the better option of playing hated commanders to just play a weaker commander and shove the more hated one in the 99 as a bomb?
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>>48245302
I almost always play 1vs1
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>>48245358
That's what I'm doing with >>48244859
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>>48245358
I did that with my Black deck. Originally I had Geth as my commander and it drew all the hate. Then I switched to Korlash and now Volrath and they draw much less attention. I think people tend to target commanders who do stuff rather than ones who can hit hard.
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>>48245396
Tell me about it. I own a pretty casual Olivia vampire tribal, but if i ever get boots or darksteel plate equipped to her, archenemy begins immediately.
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>>48245932
All my decks usually devolve into Archenemy. I started making my decks specifically to play like this.

>mfw my black Volrath deck has 17 board wipes
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/23-06-16-BVv-omnath-edh/
Is there anything I'm missing? Anything I need to add? Possible upgrade options?
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>>48245396
>>48245932
I think you guys are mistaken. A commander that seems disproportionately strong will always be targeted first. Xenagos, Rakdos, the new Tesya, Maelstrom Wanderer ect always seem to draw more agro than someone like Ayli.
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Why does it seem like to play daretti you are required to have shitty threat assessment and an iq equal to your shoe size?

>3 person game
>newzuri(me), daretti, and karametra
>get thada adel out, have 5 experience counters and use it to buff up triton shorestalker
>coming at daretti
>plays volcanic offering in response
>he wonders why karametra player ignores me when I am open sans thada and ezuri and instead swings commander lethal with karametra behemoth sledged at him

I'm fine with land destruction because its part of the game but don't try to play politics when you have darksteel forge out with overseer.
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>>48246245
Have you considered adding in champion of lambholt?
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>>48246480
I have a player in my group who runs Jhoira. He always wonders why he loses before his 5th turn after he suspends 2 Eldrazi titans on turn 3
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>>48245358
isn't that what a goodstuff deck is?
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>>48246531
Its question you will never get an answer for. Some people just can't understand how establishing a threatening boardstate will not draw a target. I don't question why altar of the brood and mesmeric orb draw hate in mimeoplasm. But I do question how making use bfz kiora -2 makes me a threat when I don't even use her +1.
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>>48246663
I get the same feeling.

>Play a Lilliana Vess
>Use her exclusively for her tutor ability and nothing else.
>people target her like I'm 1 turn away from popping her 3rd ability
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>>48246705
>Guys I'm only tutoring for any card every turn why are you picking on me
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>>48246839
>being able to tutor twice is a big threat
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>>48246839
Normally I'd agree with you, but this is the same playgroup who let Lilliana of the Dark Realms go off because "What's he going to do with that much mana anyways". For whatever reason they get tunnel vision over stupid stuff.
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>>48246910
>Liliana of the Dark Realms

Noel is that you?
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>>48246940
nope
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>>48246520
What would you suggest it replacing?
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>>48246877
If you get 2 uninterrupted tutors, the second of which costs you no mana, and you don't proceed to win the same turn, then you're really bad at Magic.
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>>48247057
>people play edh like its modern
How boring
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>>48246877
>Being able to tutor twice is not a big threat
with two tutors you can win usually, pretty much, depending on how much counterplay happens.
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>>48247084
How does it feel like to play battlecruiser magic?
Have you no idea how big of a thing tutoring 2 cards are in a combo deck? Let alone ANY (half-decent) deck?
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>>48246958
Well first I have to ask what is your wincon outside of making omnath huge getting worldspine and ulvenwald hydra. I get that you wanna fetch for lands all the time and I don't know your meta but the more competitive ones would destroy that deck. Maybe add in some things like creeperhulk and replace some of the weaker creatures with other fatties
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>>48247228
I used to have a combo deck but when I settled in with my new group I took it apart because I didn't like being a faggot who would suck out the fun of a game. Sure I still have some combos but you seem to imply these tutored cards will not get countered or have something else happen to them
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>>48247234
Another wincon of mine is casting primal surge, but as of now I don't have any sure-fire way of drawing it without top decking. Thanks for the advice though, what are some of the creatures I should replace?
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>>48247281
And you're implying tutors are for combos only.
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>>48247334
There are people who don't use their tutors to find their commander.
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>>48247288
Its up to you man. I don't like to tell how people to build their decks, you make that decision for yourself.

>>48247334
>And your implying tutors were for combos only
Yet you did not make any claims of the opposite, you stated 2 tutors back to back is a game ending combo.
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>>48247365
Ok lemme phrase this another way: what are some other fat creatures you would recommend?
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>>48247423
Siege Behemoth, Primordial Hydra, Bane of Progress(conditional but can be huge), Vorinclex although a bit of the pricy side, is a good control fatty.
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>>48247288
>>48247365
Is there a primal surge but for non permenants?
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>>48247281
Well, fun is subjective. Playing a powerful deck is fun in the right meta, but not so in one filled with Craw Wurms.
I play my strong decks in such meta, for the people need to learn the spirit of EDH
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>>48247520
I don't think so, no.
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>>48247520
That are playable and useful in commander? None.

>>48247589
my group doesnt use craw wurms, they mainly played with non edited precons. They're getting better though
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>>48247589
When do you cross the "strong" meta threshold? I imagine no one plays deck full of bad creatures like craw wurms, even my first deck made out of leftover cards was decently powerful in the end but utter shit when I look at it after comparing to my current decks.
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>>48247423
For wincons, it doesn't get much better than Craterhoof Behemoth. Pathbreaker Ibex with haste does a decent impression. The new emerge guy isn't even close to as good as Craterhoof, but it at least comes with haste.
Kamahl, Fist of Krosa will also Overrun your whole team, and with tons of mana, he can make your shit huge.

The anon who mentioned Champion of Lambholt is on point. Bellowing Tanglewurm also gives you some evasion.

You could also use some recursion, like Eternal Witness, Skullwinder, and Genesis. Bow of Nylea is pretty slow, but mixing Deathtouch and Trample is neat.

I'd cut a lot of the crappy creatures that search for lands and put them into your hand, with the possible exception of Yavimaya Elder. Consider replacing them with mana dorks and Wood Elves.

Run Nykthos. It's criminal that it isn't in your list already. I'd cut the storage land, and most of the other ETB tapped lands for Ghost Quarter and better utility lands/forests. If you like murdering people with Omnath, consider Rogue's Passage.
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>>48247748
The Craw Wurm thing is to refrence the power level and mostly a joke. The unedited precons fit well in the criteria.
>>48247749
See the first reply. There's no clear line in when meta is/becomes strong, but mostly it means that meta has really consistent decks that can win regularly on turns 3-5.

My point was, that most fun is to play with a deck that's tuned for the meta, which means that it doesn't completely stomp everyone or lose everytime, but I really like playing in games that have strong decks.
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Wort, Alesha or Grenzo for a fun-gaming budget deck? I love goblins but god damn some of them are really fucking expensive
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>>48248272
I'm replying to my own post with a provocative image to make sure people pay more attention to it
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>Playing Alesha jank
>Drop Nahiri for sick looting
>making tokens with Kathari Bomber
>poking with Goblin Bombardment
>Turns pass and Nahiri is ignored
>People too focused on Narset
>Narset ready to swing again
>this is the end
>do or die turn
>realize I can pop Nahiri
>no idea what I can get that will help
>check my hand
>Karmic Guide
>ohshit.nig
>cast Karmic Guide
>Countered
>pop Nahiri for Revielark
>sac to bombardment
>Get Karmic and Bomber
>proceed to kill table
>mfw
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>>48248292
I want to hug that dog.
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>>48248272
Which Wort? Gruul mom is the best and would make a good budget choice.
Wort and Grenzo would fit in the same deck, but I would play Grenzo, as he's less limited of Rakdos Wort and himself.
Alesha is good as well, and the best of the trio, I think. Manabase is harder to build, but mostly, that's probably the most interesting choice.
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>>48248354
oh yeah forgot to say that I'm looking more at Wort, Boggart Auntie

I'd just like to play something that doesn't need to give too many shits about players constantly clearing the board and counterspelling and so on. I'm pretty new to Magic and I'll be playing a FFA with all the politics that come with it, so it'd be helpful if the deck isn't too gimmicky or frustrating to play.

I really like the idea of a goblin tribal (and goblins in general) but it seems like all the best goblins are expensive as fuck. Grenzo would be my second choice but I don't like the idea of having to constantly Scry or pray to RNG when getting creatures, so I guess Alesha is what I might go for.

This is the deck I'm looking at now: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/alesha-rakdos-alesha/

oh by the way if there are any other resilient tribals, I'd like to know about them

here's another dog meme picture
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>>48248336
>Karmic Guide + Reveillark
A guy in my playgroup plays an Anafenza combo reanimator deck and either wins with these two or by casting Ulamog an infinite amount of times.
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>>48246531
He isnt mlding fast enough desu
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>>48248336
>Playing Jhoira
>Suspend ulamog
>Destroy all their lands when the blue players are tapped out
>everyone concedes
>Win literally every game like this
>mfw
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>>48248467
Well, if you absolutely want to play goblin tribal, you should go mono red. Best gobo commanders are Krenko and Puffdaddy.
Out of those 3, I'd recommend Alesha, as it's really good with bunch of utility creatures, you can go about with so many routes with Alesha.
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>>48248604
>Suspend ulamog
>nobody does anything

I call bullshit
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>>48248604
>erry deck
>erry day
If only green had some way of tutoring up a 3cmc creature before turn 6-7
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>>48247878
>>48247483
Thanks for the suggestions. Here is my new decklist. I've put the cards I already own into the maybeboard
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/23-06-16-BVv-omnath-edh/
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Why is there no better Mono Red Dragon than Rorix Bladewing? Don't want Zirilan as my commander for reasons.
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>>48248478

It's just a solid combo for Wx because both creatures are value, so there's usually no reason not to use them. Truth be told, I'll probably dismantle Alesha into Jeleva and Saffi again.
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>>48248907
Why not?
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>>48248823
>What is Birthing Pod
>What is Eldritch Evolution
>What is Natural Order
>What is Defense of the Heart
>What is Worldly Tutor
>What is Sylvan Tutor
>What is Green Sun's Zenith
>What is Fauna Shaman
>What is Survival of the Fittest
>What is Summoner's Pact
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>>48248970
I think he was being ironic...
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>>48248907
There is only 4 mono red legendary dragons, its not much of a choice
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>>48249010
Isn't there only 3? Tarox, Ryusei and Rorix?
>>48248907
You can use Hivis for flavor, Kiki-Jiki or Urabrask for utility.
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>>48248970
>>48249007
I was but its a good list, thanks anons

O boy cant wait for eldrich evolution
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>>48248907
I vote you go with a two-color dragon and outside of a handful of lands (Command Tower, appropriate shock, etc) that produce both colors, make the deck mono-red.
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>>48249054
I run Bladewing and I think he's the best Dragon commander so far.
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Who's got the dirtiest, spiciest tech for Sedris?
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>>48249090
Heartstone :^)
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>>48249090
That was already covered some threads ago, Void Maw and Helvault.
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>>48249099
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>>48249099
delete this
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>>48249107
damn helvault is a pretty slick maneuver
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What are some good sites to buy NM foils which are consistently flat and unwarped? TCG doesn't have any more MPS Izzet League Islands in NM and I don't wanna buy foils in anything but NM
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>>48249090
Conjurer's Closet, Sundial.
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>>48249295
>buy bent foils
>double sleeve
>put them in a bigass book
>dey flat again
>profit

Or just foil proxy them nobody gives shits about basics
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>>48249354
You don't understand, or you might since this is /tg/, but I have crippling autism and need to have perfect, real NM foils
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Is there a way to get consistent turn 3 wins with Kaalia? I'm getting turn 4-5 right now, but I'm putting up with a person who does nothing but play EDH.
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>>48249419
Probably, and it'll most likely involve Master of Cruelities and Mana Vault/Crypt
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>>48249295
Making proxies?
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>>48249378
Try some smaller online sites instead of the big 4

Even try magiccardmarket.eu or similar sites outside the US if you dont mind the postage times
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>>48249440
That's what I'm already running. Right now I'm working on getting more low cost tutors in the deck, but as it stands I can't seem to it off consistently.

Thank you for your suggestion.
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>>48249500
If you want a deck that 'consistently' wins on turn 3, you need to pick a new Commander.
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I want to ask for suggestions on my commander decks, but I'm too lazy to add them to tappedout. It's so tedious.
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>>48249543
Type them in word and copy paste

I keep my deck on tappedout and in word/pdf format just incase then if you make changes its easy to change 1 card instead of a whole list
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>>48249500
Pic Related can giver her haste for 0 mana provided you play it early, if you really wanna cheese Spirit Guide could be good
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>>48249532
I understand. Who would you recommend? What would I need? I've seen good things about Mimeoplasm and Sydri but I don't know what I'd need for it to work every time.
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>>48249664
You want my honest opinion? Stop playing EDH. A 100 card singleton multiplayer format is not the place to try and win on turn 3 every game. Get into Legacy.
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>>48248467
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>>48249664
Speaking of legacy you can win pretty easy with swagzuri elfball or if you really want to be a degenerate Edric aluren
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>>48249644

That's not a bad idea, I'll have to "legally acquire" Word or something like that. Seems much more fluid than having to wait for your card to load every god damn time. So far I have Mazirek, Ezuri, and Omnath, Landfall of Rage for commanders. Planning on making a Anax And Cymede next just because it would be
>not green
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>>48248272
Alesha is fun, very toolboxy.
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>>48249701
thank you
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>>48249701
>Search your kitchen for a hot dog and put that hot dog into your mouth.
>Then pity yourself.
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>>48249720
Get off Ezuri's nutsack. I swear you post that pic in every thread.
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>>48249733
Download openoffice its always free and does exactly the same as microsoft word
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>Can't decide between Muzzio fatties, Jarad suicide or Hokori stax

SHIT

I love artifacts but I never really build with Golgari and want to try something different, plus chucking creatures at everyone looks kinda neat
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>>48249733
If you wanna play test how good your deck could/should/might be, just search your commander on edhrec, view average deck, copy/paste to tapped out, playtest it.
Or if your deck is good enough it should be pretty close. Just sub all the cards you don't have/can't afford.
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>>48249851
Where did the swag master touch you anon? It's ok your among friends
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>kaseto is a perfect commander to hold swords
>2/3 good swords give prot simic
i juss wanna play my sneks man
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>>48249701
good post
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>mfw i run newzuri
>mfw its an elfball deck with blue just for counterspells
>mfw their boardwipes never work
>mfw they get elfrolled by green wieners harder than miss piggy
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>>48249929
So give him a Jitte and Konda's Banner
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Hi /tg/, can you help with creating a good deck with cards that have /tg/-approved flavor text?

We can use Adun Oakenshield as a commander.
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>>48249884
I would recommend getting out of your comfort zone, honestly. Who knows, the Jarad deck could be your new favorite
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>>48249985
>Goblin Offensive
>Fodder Cannon
>Brightstone Ritual
>Skirk Prospector
sacgoblins.dec
>Hex
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Alright edhg/ I'm gonna build Sedris. What would be a good way to loop rituals for huge mana? There's gotta be something with Runic Repetition, Seething Song, and copy effects but I'm too fried right now to figure it out.

Also, any spicy tech for Sedris?
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>>48250441
Maybe some isochron sceptre shenanigans find a way to untap it sac shit cast a spell sac untap cast etc

Or use heartstone :^)
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>>48250357
Everything looks good for flavor text. Fodder Cannon seems a tad janky for actual games though, thank you very much for the suggestions.
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>>48249985
>tg approved flavor text
7th edition flying carpet
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Guys, I think I'm going to make a pirate-themed deck with Skeleton ship as the commander... Any ideas to make it not unwinnable? I'm thinking largely along the lines of stealing and taxing.
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>>48244859
Amulet of Vigor.
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>>48250722
>flying carpet
Looks like a fun card with fun flavor text but we could work on cards we could maybe... decently win with. Thank you though.
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>>48250739
Stolen Goods and Bribery for pirating
Expedition Map for the good ole treasure map
Throwing in big blue sea monsters can help fit the theme if you are looking for more playable creatures

I'm building a low power deck to play on level with one of my playgroups. Any suggestions for some non-degenerate and interactive commanders? I was thinking Yeva and flashing in a bunch of big dudes and strong ETBs. Any ideas on either?
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>>48249351

Conjurer's closet is the best because it works even when they are disrupting your sedris or graveyard, you can just play your awesome etb creatures the normal way and value out, while at the same time valuing even harder when the sedris gravy train is online
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>>48248754
How are you gonna do anything without lands and creatures
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>>48251085

Idk about low power but I have a yeva list you can check out, if you want it to be lower power I suggest switching some of the more expensive money cards for battle cruiser fatties
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>>48251195
>>48251085

Forgot to link actual deck list

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/instant-noodles/
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>>48249701
Who makes good altered proxies? I need at least one of these.
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>>48249985
Aether Flash.
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>>48251187
How do you not have lands or creatures? Ulamog is suspended. Do you play against vegetables? If someone suspends ulamog they're public enemy #1
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/molimo-voltron/
I have too many cards, and I'm probably missing something important. Any tips?
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>go to EDHRec
>click on Ramirez DePietro just to see what the signature/top cards are
I knew pretty much exactly what to expect and I still got a chuckle out of it

I want to make this now
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>>48251244
>Destroy all their lands
Reading is tech, chief. You suspend Ulamog and then drop a nuke the next turn. Or, if you're smart, suspend Ulamog and Apocalypse in the same turn so that they have exactly three turns to stop you before you go nuclear.
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>>48251244
Jhoira players use a lot of mass land destruction so while hes on suspend they MLD
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What's your favorite underused commander? Maybe someone here will be inspired and give them some love.
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>>48251441

Rasputin dreamweaver is pretty high cmc but other than that he's powerful as hell
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>>48251400
>>48251421
>its good thing my group isn't that dumb to play mana rocks

Sounds like jhoira players are more one trick than nekusar
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>>48251589

Yeah jhoira is unplayably bad, totally owned by mana rocks
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>>48251589
>Apocalypse
>Decree of Annihilation
>Jokulhaups
>Obliterate
Are the usual board-clears for Jhoira, but please tell me how mana rocks will get you through that.
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>>48251631
A way to counter jhoira sometimes is with enchantments or planeswalkers because most MLDs dont hit them
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>>48251618
You said jhoira is MLD which is trumped by mana rocks

>>48251631
>I draw all my answers all the time
Its not like counterspells don't exist, dumbass
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>>48251667

Honestly I think it's way more effective to just kill her on sight and counter any mass destruction spell, an eldrazi or two is nbd if you have your own board
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>>48251441
He doesn't get enough respect.
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>>48251702
>Obliterate
Look, I'm not saying Jhoira is unbeatable, I'm just saying maybe look into what cards they play before you claim something 'stops' it when it doesn't.

It's like saying you plan on using the "destroy all nontoken creatures" wrath as an answer to a token deck.
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>>48251702

I didn't say anything of the sort
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>>48251728
Unless somebody is playing blue thats literally the only way to go
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>>48251769

Well almost every color can kill her or her mana rocks to prevent her from suspending too many game breakers

I think that's a better plan than trying to ensure you have an enchantment or planeswalker that somehow wins you the game with no other help in play after a jokulhaups
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>>48251740
I think I am going to replace Jazal Goldmane in my Hazezon deck with this guy. Thanks m8.
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>>48251856
Even then if they do the mld eldrazi combo they just swing at you and force you to sacrifice it
fun!
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>>48251856

Not to mention hate effects that can shut down suspended cards like silence/Orim's chant, or Gaddock teeeg

Or you can prevent the suspending in the first place with Linvala or suppression field
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>>48251748
Fine go ahead and backpedal. Not like this conversation was going anywhere
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>>48249967
>blue just for counterspells
There's some DAMN fine simic elves, anon. Tell me you at least got my boy Edric.
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>>48251882
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>>48249967
>blue with no card draw
You sound like the worst fucking newzuri player ever
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>>48251977

You must have me confused with somebody else
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>>48252134

Green doesn't need blue to draw cards, especially a weenie elfball deck

Although distant melody is an auto include in An elfball deck splashing Blue
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>>48252171
Again the deck sounds terrible
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>>48252235

Wut

Do you think elfball is bad or something?
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>>48252259
In commander, yes its fucking terrible. Elves may as well be on the same tier as skeleton tribal in commander
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>>48252316
Not if you're running umbral mantle combo. But of course if that's the case, you should be splashing white instead.
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>>48252134
>implying games last long enough for draw to be relevant
>mfw
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>>48252316

Have you ever been on mtg top 8?

Elfball is one of the French edh top tier decks, it's a little worse in multiplayer with the extra sources of removal and board wipes

But bottom line is you're delusional
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>>48252438
I have to give you credit, this bait is honestly top quality. Have a (you).
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>>48252470
>Elfball is one of the French edh top tier decks
Who gives a fuck about french format besides bitch ass who can't handle multiplayer?
>Bottom line is you're delusional
Elfball is easily broken sorry your group hasn't figured out how to stomp your stupid ass

>>48252438
>card draw doesn't matter
Its good to get a (You) from a tryhard, makes me feel like I accomplished something
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ayooo
*stasis*
hol up
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>>48244702
Alright boys, I'm bringing my Prossh edh deck to the Sydney GP for French commander and just casual, what is some super secret tech for him?

Also here's a wallpaper
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>>48252578
>>48252587
>Spirit of muh edh
>Games less than 3 hours
Whats wrong babies? Cant handle losing to a non combo deck in single digit turns? Are you triggered by modern and legacy? You better stop lifting your skirts, your vaginas are showing
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Any recommendations for an almost enchantment-only Intet deck? Not worried about mana costs, and also not worried about creature/artifact/instant/sorcery hosing (will have very few of these, maybe OG Kozi and Ula (w/ Sneak Attack or Omniscience) to shuffle back my grave and hit big, draw effect creatures, Courser, some Gods, also instants/sorcs to bring enchantments back from the grave).

I realize Jeskai or Bant would probably make for better enchantment decks, but I have a burning desire to make this deck. Call me a dreamer.
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>>48252675
>>/r9k/

Nobody needs your shitposting here faggot.
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>>48252678
New bant with new chingchongtamiyo ultimate her your deck is free to cast
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>>48248823
>hardcounter to blue/red suspend bitch
Thanks famalam
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>>48252718
The truth is not shitposting, this is an edh discussion thread and (You) have no idea how to play the game, but hey thats just my opinion man, im sure you do well at your kitchen table games with your shu yun deck but gitgud if you ever feel the need to comment on how top8 decks are shit
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>Friends are really into making "plane themed" EDH decks that use cards from the same plane as their Commander
>Usually wreck them easily with modified precons
>Now they want me to do a plane-themed deck
>I chose Innistrad
>Don't know which Commander or what cards to choose
send help
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>>48252785
Olivia voldaren 1.0 vampire tribal combo
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>>48252785
>Innistrad
You dun goofed. Go Argentum. Best creatures in the game.
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>>48252740
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>>48252785
Grimgrin
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>>48252785

Gitgud horror time
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>>48252785
I was kind of thinking of doing this with Greven il-Vec, in an attempt to make the deck less "black goodstuff". It can never be that bad, afterall, since he's a 7/5 fear.

If I were forced to make an Innistrad deck, I'd do human tribal with Sigarda. Assuming you can use cards from other sets to boost your army of minions?
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>>48249295
CFB too unreliable in that department, I take it? Also, you do you, but man, totally not feeling the MPS guild lands. Maybe they look cooler in person.
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>>48252785

Better yet

GISA
I
S
A
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>>48252721
Maybe I should wait for the shiny new RGWU legends coming this fall. I like Intet though ;_;
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>player's deck is centered around stealing creatures
>deck has only big creatures
>"Asshole stop attacking me"
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>>48252740
No worries broham
All of the eldrazi processors do the same but this guy is reusable all day
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>>48252820
'Yeah I'm suspending all eldrazi ever'
Great indestructible lands I don't fucking care
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>>48252846
calm down
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>>48252839
Have they released what colors they're releasing?
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>>48252868
Been spoiled for a while that it'll be four-color decks.

Hopefully RGWU gets a better enchantment commander than WUBR
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>>48252785
>Dominiaria
>Slivers
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>>48252868
Four colors is confirmed from the mother ship itself. I have no idea how they'll pull it off, here's hoping it's fun. I hope each box gets a legend that hates out the missing color.
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>>48252860
Fuck you dude magic is the only thing that keeps me going at the end of the day because my life sucks fucking izzix bitch exile FUCK
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>>48252885
UBRG will be the best one.
Although all those decks are gonna suck major dick.
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>>48252911
>blood sugar
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>>48252828
They said that Core Set cards only count if they have any "clear origin to the plane", so things like Odric 1.0 are ok, but things like filterlands, manlands, and the like are a no-no
>>48252890
The planes allowed were Lorwyn/Shadowmoor, Ravnica, Mirrodin/New Phyrexia, Theros, Kamigawa, Innistrad, Tarkir, and Zendikar, so no sliver shennanigans
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>>48252885
>>48252893
I thought the 4 colors would have 10 types like dual and tri colors because I'm a retard thanks
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>>48252930
>casual
>planes allowed
u wot
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>>48252911
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>>48252933
what? You thought every single card in the decks would be exactly 4 colors?
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>>48252930
Phyrexia infect aggro
Make them eat your multi-barbed prehensile poisoned alien penis
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>>48252933
Yep.

1 way to do colorless
5 ways to do mono
10 ways to do dual
10 ways to do tri
5 ways to do four
1 way to do rainbow


Pascal's Triangle nigga
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>>48252785
Again, just go Argentum. They'll bitch, get autistic and tell them just because it has a new name doesn't matter. Go creature-less and wipe the floor with their carcasses.
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>>48252948
>C16 decks
>new Jhoira of the Gitgud
>URWG
>same ability but now with more boardwipes
Wizards plz
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>>48252997
>>48252967
I already picked Innistrad, and I kept my word that I'd stick to it. Next time I'll probably do infect to fuck with them, but not this week.
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>>48252780
>its on top 8 so its good
So it is shitposting good to know, /b/ seems more your style
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>>48253014
And all the white land destruction
Wew
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>>48252985
How is that a triangle?

>>48252948
FUCK
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>>48253042
math, you retard
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I'm making a phyrexian commander deck with sheoldred as my commander. The rules for this deck are:
>the cards must be of phyrexian origins (excluding lands and sol ring)
>the cards must be either black or colorless (obviously due to commander rules)

The deck is focused on recurrence, it will not utilize infect.

Can anyone suggest some cards to add? I've got things like wurmcoil engine, dreadnaught, collasus, and all the phyrexians that sacrifice themselves to put -x/-x until end of turn. I'm looking for more.

Flavor is the first goal of this deck, then efficiency second.
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>>48253025
>top 8 os made from the most successful decks veing played currently
>its in the top 8 because its bad
>how do i top 8?
Wew lad
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>>48253073
i posted in an edhg thread a day or two ago stating i would be doing the exact same thing. we should post our decks and see which is better.
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>>48253025
It's basic logic that a deck and player that can beat multiple deck and players would have the superior deck.
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>>48253073
if you're going for flavor first you're already making some huge mistakes.
namely:
>sol ring
>not utilizing infect
and what are "all the phyrexians that sacrifice themselves...blah blah blah"?
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>>48252930
>didn't pick Mirrodin/New Phyrexia
I shiggy diggy anon. I get it, if you don't have the cards that's fine, but there are many fun decks. Infect, Elesh Norn or Vorniclex seem pretty good.
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>>48253102
>top 8 is composed of the best decks from competitive metas
>they easily lose to homebrews
Ain't that some shit?
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>>48253073
Even if you do not use infect you should really seriously consider tainted strike. Because that card is still hilarious.
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>>48253144
>Not trying to run affinity edh
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>>48244702
I tutor this card just for fun. Also combo card with altars
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>>48253073
Phyrexian Obliterator
Life's Finale
Black Sun's Zenith
Massacre Wurm
Geth
Necrotic Ooze
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>>48253159
I made her a control combo deck with the infinite mana win condition
It was okay but wasnt fun desu
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>>48253147
If they lose to homebrews so often why don't you top 8?
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>>48245061
I own copy, but my friends will hate me if i build it and will give up playing edh if i do
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>>48253156
>affinity edh
Is Lodestone Myr banned? I can see this being fun. Who's your commander:
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>>48253184
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>>48245061
I have them in Oloro in the 99. They get there occasionally
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>>48253200
I don't. Discussion of trying to play plane specific Mirrodin was brought up. Affinity is love.

I can't seem to make any sort of artifact deck that isn't degenerate as hell, so I don't have one.
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>>48244859
actually is a very interesting way around commander tax.
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What are some good win conditions for this guy?
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>>48253521
That is a fantastic alter.
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>>48253521
Watch SCG's video with this guy.
It's basically all chaos with a few things working together and I figure that's probably the best way.
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>>48253521
Purphoros
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>>48253548
I want this alter in a clear sleeve with a regular Norin so I can just flip it over whenever he blinks

>>48253589
Will do. My current setup is weird red prison enchantments like Price of Glory and Smoke, and the obvious stuff like Genesis Chamber and >>48253607 but closing games is hard
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>>48253642
>Krenko
>More goblin cards
>Enchantments to fling gobbos at opponents
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>>48253521
He's actually a planeswalker
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>>48253389

The commander tax does not change (converted/)mana costs. It is an additional cost to cast your commander from the command zone. No hypothetical moonfolk offering will be able reduce the total cost to zero beyond the first cast.
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>>48253759

Look at this man. Look at him and laugh!
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>>48245061

Less exciting when off colour mana still converted to colourless.

Also: "Use your own cards!!11" "But I am" "REEEEEE"
Sakashima heading ninjaclones.dec has the same issue despite being the definition of casual.

Always remember: magic players are scum.
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>>48253905
>Less exciting when off colour mana still converted to colourless
Not anymore.
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>>48253880
why?
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>>48253880
>>
POST GOOD Maelstrom Wanderer TECH

RIGHT NOW
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>>48254180
forests, mountains, islands
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>>48254211
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>>48254064
why not?
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>>48254064

Because Offerings do in fact reduce commander tax.
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>>48252668
Blade of the bloodchief is another good one.
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>>48254180

Pathbreaker ibex
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>>48254180
Bloodbraid Elf
Etherium-Horn Sorcerer
Shardless Agent
Violent Outburst
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>>48254180
Cascade is a triggered ability right?
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>>48252820
Sacred Ground is almost always better than that
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>>48254180
http://edhrec.com/commanders/maelstrom-wanderer
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I want to build Zur, but avoiding his natural tendency to win really fast. What are some fun 3cmc or less enchantments in esper that I could tutor out with Zur?
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>>48254509
playing zur is a drawback unless you build for power, because you will be putting a target on your back
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>>48254518
to be fair I play with mostly retarded people who can't play for shit
Perhaps my question should be changed to: After repeatedly destroying many anuses with Daretti Stax, what's a fun deck I can build that isn't at all serious?
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>>48254529
>>48254518
>>48254509
Fuck it, Derevi Birds and/or Wizards
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>>48249090
>>48250441
Shaman's Trance. You're welcome.
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>>48254489
Yep
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Currently have a Staxy Krenko list, what are everyone's thoughts on converting to shattergang brothers and trying to turn the board into sacrificial misery?
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underrated commanders i play
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>>48254968
Let's see some decklists, buddy
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>>48254975
soon (im at work) but the main ideas are:

Tresserhorn = Play many creatures with etb drawbacks and stuff like stifle, trickbind, torpor orb, illusionary mask and so on.

Karona = Enchant her with all Vow's and other good stuff, equip her like hell and play stuff like propaganda and so on. everything is defensive and you watch people beating each other to death using karona
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Why is Training Grounds so expensive? The cheapest are like 5 euros, but it doesn't seem to see play anywhere. Couldn't even find a weird fringe modern deck or something on mtggoldfish. Does anyone of you guys play this, and if yes, with what?
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