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What Is your Favorite fantasy setting /tg/?
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>>48184738
Why do you capitalize random words?
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>>48184755

Why Not?
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>>48184755
Habbit
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>>48184738
The Witcher
>Cool as fuck Slav folklore
>Creepy Monsters like Leshens, Ghosts and Drowners
>Various factions/empires/kingship in a huge land
>Moral grey a lot of the time
> Cool/funny monsters like Trolls, Dragons and Demons
>Elves are the bad guys
>Dwarves and halflings are the bros
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>>48184738
>TALISLANTA
>Exotic fantasy
>Weird magic
>Tonnes of strange cultures, foods, animals, plants
>Not based on the standard humans/elves/dwarves/orcs medieval setting
>Inspired by Jack Vance and Clark Ashton Smith, totally boss
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>>48184738
>>48184892
the Witcher is overrated, largely due to what an enormous Sue Geralt is
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>>48184892
>elves are the bad guys
It's almost like you don't read the novels or shorts at all. They're treated more like Native Americans in Western fiction in a lot of ways: few, dying out, sad, many acting out in anger and the oldest succumbing to the despair of knowing that their anger is entirely futile.

Unless mean the Aen Elle, in which case...yeah. They only really directly showed up as a negative force in Lady of the Lake, but definitely took center stage as an antagonist group in Witcher 3.
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>>48186746
He's the Mary-est Mother of God Sue there is.
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>>48184738
>>48184892
Witcher, 100%.

Witcher > Tactics-Era Ivalice > Planescape > Forgotten Realms > FF6 > SoIF > Azeroth.
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>>48186779
More than Drizzt, Elminster, and Mystra's Other Chosen?
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>>48186850
Well...hmmm...tough call. Drizzit does suffer occasionally and have setbacks, some of the other Chosen have been killed off, but Elminster probably is the Suest of them all.
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>>48184738
Black Company's setting is pretty neat
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>>48186779
>>48186746
Geralt's uninteresting, but I still enjoy the setting. I'd read/play the hell out of something centered around, say, a Cat school witcher who tries to stay noble in the face of their school's reputation, and relies more on being a clever bastard than being 'teh best sordzmans'.
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>>48186930
I liked Geralt more in the novels and short stories.

>>48186779
Drizzt didn't get killed by a peasant with a pitchfork. Just saying/.
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>>48184738
Planescape is my second favorite. Mostly because of how DiTerlizzi's art, the writers' setting and the Planescape: Torment game brought everything together so perfectly to make it come alive. It's the only setting that gave me feels and made me awestruck.
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>>48186930
Being a fantastic swordsman is something all witchers automatically are according to the setting and RPG; combat is literally the ONLY thing they are trained for, and their knowledge of other things is nonexistent unless all directly tied into lifting curses or hunting and killing monsters. Geralt knows a bit more because he's over a century old and has some pretty interesting friends, but witchers tend to have an autistic-level of focus on their job because that's literally the only thing they were ever raised and taught to do.

In other bits, Geralt's skill as a swordsman is at least partially because of Dandelion overhyping the shit out of him; he actually looses almost as many fights as he wins in the books and some of the stuff he does as a master swords are stuff witchers are supposed to universally be able to do. The crossbow parrying thing for instance is something he outright says he tries to NEVER do unless he has no other choice because it's hard as hell and he has a fairly even chance of missing and getting killed instantly by the bolt as he does actually parrying it aside.
Almost ALL of Geralt's fame comes from Dandelion exaggerating the fuck out of everything he does because Dandelion knows a good story and good story protagonist when he sees one so he writes about the stuff Geralt does while adding extra bullshit to it along the way.

The REAL master swordsman of the series is also Leo Bonhart, who apparently can kill witchers in single combat without even having the benefit of superhuman reflexes like they do.
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>>48187327
They're also supposed to be incapable of human emotion, but Geralt is supposed to be an example of that process not being reliable, as he still has emotions, but they dont work the same way.
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>>48184738
tolkienverse
planescape
any 80s pulp fantasy setting
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>>48184738
Urban fantasy, preferably more like Neverwhere with the unknowable society hidden beneath the streets.

Dresden Files works just fine to sate my needs, too.
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>>48184892
>Witcher
>Planescape
>mfw /tg/'s already hit my two favorite settings

I guess I'll add that I always enjoyed the setting for David Eddings' Belgariad and Malorean series. It's low fantasy without being grim and gritty, it has historically based civilizations without being boring, and the magic and mythology is consistent but doesn't lose a sense of wonder.
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>>48187380
Most of the fiction suggests that they are all completely capable of human emotion.
The problem is they have an autistic-level of social interaction problems because their entire life revolves around that single activity and so they don't know how to interact with people well.
Notice how Geralt is a lot more comfortable (if acerbic) around his Wolf School buddies like Coen and Lambert and Eskel and how all of them get angry or irritable or like or hate things.
Really, the "have no emotions" thing is a mixture of hearsay and the "Witcher Code", meaning bullshit they made up themselves to find semi-polite excuses for their behavior. Their habitually impassive and stoic faces comes from their extremely intense training so they don't loose their cool in combat.
The "autism" thing really DOES apply in this case because they are sent out into the world with nearly no social skills and a hyper focus on a ridiculously narrow skillset that most never deviate out of.
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>>48187621
What IS the Witcher's Code anyway?
That thing where they don't kill sentient beings without a good reason?
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>>48187666
>What IS the Witcher's Code anyway?
It's literally something Geralt made up so he can avoid doing jobs he doesn't like. He wants to hunt monsters, not be an assassin.
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>>48187593
>Belgariad and Malorean
>Low fantasy without being grim and gritty
>Consistent magic

Anon, stop. You're piquing my interest.
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>>48187683
Start here. Be prepared for comfy well-executed clichés and top-tier character writing.
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>>48187666
That's the joke; there IS no Witcher's Code. Like their randomly-chosen names, it's just something they make up to make people feel more at ease when around them.
Since witchers are already strongly disliked, they made up the idea of "the Witcher's Code" as a way to weasel out of jobs that they don't feel comfortable doing but don't want to offend the person offering the job in the first place, and as a way to make some more impressionable people think they have more scruples other then practicality and thus hold them in higher regard.

That's why the details of the Code are never explained: every witcher makes it up as he feels like it. Geralt's oft-mentioned tenant of not harming sentient monsters without good cause is because he's hopelessly idealistic.
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>>48187721
>Geralt's oft-mentioned tenant of not harming sentient monsters without good cause is because he's hopelessly idealistic.
Gamefag here, I would always avoid killing monsters that weren't actually harmful when given the choice. Is this how Geralt acts in the books? Does it ever backfire?
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>>48187677
>>48187721
Seriously? That's hilarious.
And a very true to series explanation I suppose, being an obvious deconstruction over semi-mystical "codes" folks like Jedi have.
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Its a piece of shit for everyone there but I still do like the Dark Souls universe.
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>>48187751
Yes and yes.
In the stories he usually tries to find non-hostile courses of action when it comes to sentient beings, but often his plans backfire because he's kind of a shitty planner in general.

There's one story where he meets the Beast from Beauty and the Beast, tells him he can't lift the curse and doesn't fight him (because he has no reason to), but ends up fighting him AND his vampire girlfriend (a Bruxae) because said vampire girlfriend is killing people on the road for food.

Oh. And you know how when he has his shirt off he has that gnarly bite-mark scar on his shoulder? That's the story where he got that one.
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>>48187707
God damnit, Anon.

...Once the pendulum of my personal interest swings back from urban fantasy to traditional fantasy, I'll definitely give this a read. Thank you
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Eberron has a lot of depth and nuance but /tg/ hates it because they inexplicably think it's steampunk wank
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>>48186746
How is Geralt a Mary Sue?
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>>48187590
Shit somebody else on here likes the DFRPG?
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>>48187801
i should really read those books
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>>48188022
The short stories are actually quite a bit better in my opinion. They have a lot more of that acerbic wit and sarcasm that really helps elevate the games at times.
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The Wakening series. Only one book so far, Dawn of Wonder. It was absolutely amazing. Incredibly detailed background history, mythology, and character development.
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A tie between WoD and Shadowrun. I love urban fantasy, and both series have had extremely fun games that really dragged me into the setting.
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>>48184738
Unknown Armies
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>>48186826
Ivalice in general is fucking fantastic, mostly regardless of era.

Deep characters, an intricate political landscape, a well-structured world full of varied cultures and locations, and an excessive amounts of background lore tidbits. What the hell's not to like?
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>>48188894
>mostly regardless of era
I like Ivalice too, but even discounting spin-offs it's not perfect.
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>>48186746
>>48186779
Ciri is the real Mary Sue of the series. Geralt is actually kind of a jobber, who we only sympathize with as the protagonist because we see through his perspective. He's certainly better than the vast majority of regular people, but he's actually at the lower end of the special people in the setting. Eskel is supposed to be just as skilled and expierenced as Geralt, and even better with magic, but is ultimately not as well known simply because he doesn't have friends who are famous bards.

Geralt doesn't even slay as much pussy as he's made out to.
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>>48188916
Vaan was a mistake. Just try to ignore him and Penelo as much as you can and focus on the actually interesting characters who were supposed to be the protagonists instead.
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>>48188916
>>48188949
Vaan and Penelo are supposed to be like Ishmael: Viewpoint characters that just serve as something for the camera to be stuck to.
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My own
It's not the best, but it's mine, and that's the important bit I think.
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>>48184738
>Ivalice
>Innistrad, pre Avacyn Restored
>Fable, mostly 2
>Witcher
>Monster Hunter, specifically Tri's Isand.

My ideal setting would be a Rococo gothic horror world with hunting guilds being the only thing that keeps hordes of monsters, ghosts and curses at bay. Lots of aristocratic debauchery, government incompetence and black humor welcome.
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>>48188945
>>>48186746
>>>48186779
>Ciri is the real Mary Sue of the series. Geralt is actually kind of a jobber, who we only sympathize with as the protagonist because we see through his perspective. He's certainly better than the vast majority of regular people, but he's actually at the lower end of the special people in the setting. Eskel is supposed to be just as skilled and expierenced as Geralt, and even better with magic, but is ultimately not as well known simply because he doesn't have friends who are famous bards.
>Geralt doesn't even slay as much pussy as he's made out to.

Of course, that's in the books. In the videogames they treat Dandelion's fanciful takes off how awesome he is as being actually true, and he gets to bone all the women.
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>>48189114
>Ivalice
What... time period, because that is like 4 different settings in one depending on what point in the timeline.
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>>48184738
>Ivalice
>Witcher
>Planescape
Yep. You guys have good taste in settings, no doubt about it.

The FMA world is pretty good too, as is the avatar the last airbender world.
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>>48189364
>>48189362
Not that guy, but fair point.

For me it's going to be done time around the day era
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>>48189373
Wow autocorrect what the fuck is that.

Best time around the tactics era*
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>The Wheel of Time
>Escaflowne
>Nier
>Shadow of the Colossus
>Shadowrun
>Turtle Island

Just off the top of my head. All of them have been incredible rides in all of the time I've spent in them. Not a moment wasted.
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Dropping some Euro-comics that I consider truly original.
Wondering if you guys actually know any of them. You should, you'd love them.

Quest for the time bird!
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>>48189505
And Chninkel
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>>48189362
Not really, sure Tactics and and War of the Lions are anachronistic to the rest (Balthier and Luso are just there for guest character points) but FFXII, Tactics Advance, Reventant Wings and Advance 2 could have easily happened during the same lifetime, just in different regions. Ivalice is stupidly large, I like to think that's part of what makes kingdoms so brittle and international politics so intrincate in XII.
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>>48189512
AND the great Ralph Azham. It seems simple, but the setting is actually quite fascinating and imaginative.
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>>48189544
Advance and Advance 2 did happen during the same lifetime. It's revealed at the end of A2 that the advance antagonist is still alive and working as a librarian.
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>>48189589
>>48189544
If you can read moon, here's the official timeline thing.
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Warhammer fantasy
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>>48189589
And Revenant Wings is the direct sequel of XII, I know, and Vaan, Penelo and Al Cid appear in A2 as they would be a couple years from RW's story ending. Wether this means XII is part of the Grimoire's story too, or the Grimoire transports you to an actual living word and Marche was a faggot, who knows.
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The Edge is my favorite setting, huge shame it doesn't have any kind of decent game system for it, though I remember /tg/ beginning to home brew something for it.
Third age of flight is best age
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>>48189618
It probably does.
Marche did nothing wrong.
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I actually think ASOIAF is pretty neat until the show ruined it.
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>>48184755
Sorry, I Used to write HeadLines for A shitty college paper that didn't follow Normal LayOut conventions
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>>48189718
>until the show ruined it
The show only ruined it for bookfags, the show in itself is great.
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>>48189512
thought that was thorgal for a sec
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>>48189725
Well sure I guess. But the books do exist and I can't ignore that I read them 13 years ago and that the show is proving the ending will not live up to my expectation.
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Kind of surprised nobody has posted Requiem Vampire Knight yet.
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Elder Scrolls
>CHIMest lore
>cuckbride shenanigans and a fun self contradicting community
that's about it.
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>>48189460
>Wheel of Time
>not a moment wasted

I mean, I like the series, but I'm pretty sure at least half of Winter's Heart is completely redundant.
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Eberron da best
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>>48187877
Eberron was wasted on 3.5. Such a rich setting that manages to subvert clichés without going "LOOK AT ME I'M SUBVERTING CLICHÉS!" I'm currently working on a guide to running it in the Shadows of the Demon Lord system, which I think lends itself much more to the setting than anything WotC is capable of doing.

And if you MUST be a twat and append the "punk" suffix to everygoddamnthing, Eberron is Magicpunk. But really it's just a war torn, post industrial revolution fantasy setting with the more interesting bits of the various wars that America has fought thrown in for good measure.
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>>48189728
You have a good eye, it's made by the same dudes.
Chninkel is more crazy, high fantasy and it concludes the story in three magnificent albums. Thorgal started getting a little 'meh' at the 13th album and they're still counting.
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>>48186779
>Geralt
>Mary Sue
>In the same series as Ciri

The games dial it back a lot but Ciri is easily the worst part of the books, not even counting the retarded ending.

>White-haired time travelling reality warping interdimensional pansexual girl who is the daughter of the Emperor and also really pretty and also becomes the protagonist in the last novel just to derail her arc into literal King Arthur insert fanfiction before showing up at the end just for the protagonists to get killed by an unimportant rando and also the games aren't canon because they try to undo my mess of an ending [polish phlegm choking noises]

The Witcher's one of the few times a video game adaptation is not just miles but lightyears better than the source material
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>Weird magic that doesn't really have a lot of complex rules and is more wild and terrifying for it
>A non-stagnant technology level that evolves as the series goes on
>Accurate portrayal of just how much suck is involved in siege warfare
>Stuff like giants and relics of the old times each with cooler backstories than the last
>Hill-men
>Italy
> Literally every single conflict in the world is just old petty wizards fighting a grudge match and getting innocent people killed for their selfish vendetta, and this has been going on for centuries, sometimes even going so far as to have entire nations founded just for an extra army to throw at each other
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>>48189986
I heard the reason the later books are so fucked is because Sapkowski really didn't want to keep writing them.
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Glorantha
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>>48186779
He got his shit pushed in a few times in the books.

>>48187762
Yeah, Witcher also choose their own names. And Geralt wanted to go with "Geralt Roger Eric du Haute-Bellegarde" first but got told to cut that shit and take a better name by Vesemir. Then he chose Geralt of Rivia. So his title is also completely made up. Bookspoiler: Until he, through chance or destiny, saves the Queen of Rivia and gets knighted by her

>>48188043
Definitely. But the toussaint part of the novels (I think it was in the novels, not sure) is also quite good. Probably one of my favourite parts.

>>48189766
Oh yeah, gotta agree. Tes has a great setting.


As for my favourite Fantasy settings, yeah Witcher is definitely up there.
But also The Hyborian Age (although I have not read much yet).
Symbaroum also has a nice setting I think.
Oh, and what I have seen of it, the Slaine comics seem to also have a nice setting.
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Warcraft
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>ctrl-f eberron
>3 posts mentioning it
srsly
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>>48189736
That hurts my eyes. Shit taste.
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>>48184738
I like anime "industrialized fantasy", but without the anime, very much. Eberron, Chronopia, magic megacities etc. If you got the power of sorcery in your hands, of-fucking-course you'll use it to make the work of whole society easier, and getting filthy rih in the process. I've always wanted to write a setting where necromancy was just a source of free labour rather than a hobby for medieval nerds bent on world domination.

Also dark fantasy settings are pretty nice. Symbaroum and the Souls games, as well as OP pic, seem to belong there.
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>>48189731
>>48189718
The only great book in the series is the first. The rest are mediocre. GoT exceeds its source material.
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>>48189637
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>>48186711
What kind of elf is that?
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>>48191661
ElfSD
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>>48191661
The ones that go to pride parades.
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>>48191661
That's a Thrall, a servitor race of identical clone warriors who are now free and tattoo themselves to create an individual identity.

You can get the full book here:
http://talislanta.com/?page_id=5#2nd
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The Bartimaeus series. A serious favorite, and a game of players being djinn enslaved to fight for their summoners and having to find ways to trick and destroy them with sneak thievery would be glorious.
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>>48187593
i like how garion literally breaks each of the laws of magic
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>>48192194
You mean a game like Sorcerer? http://adept-press.com/games-fantasy-horror/sorcerer/
Or Runequest has also rules for spirit/demon binding, throw out all other magic and you are good to go. Though I think RQ does not do modern stuff good.
Also: I always forget to mention Bartimaeus in threads like this. Thanks for mentioning it, one of my favorite book series.
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>>48191284
but Geralt name was not random, he was name by hes mother when she gave him to vesemir
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>>48192448
Oh yeah. I forgot that, you are right.
Only his title/last name was chosen.
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So....

God Tier
>Discworld

Great Tier
>Warhammer Fantasy
>Witcher
>Planescape
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Broken empire is pretty neat.
at least until jorg went a set it right(fuck it up)
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>>48192650
fucked*
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>>48188017
There's plenty of Anons here that enjoy Dresden Files, it's just that few /love/ it (let's be honest, it's the beer and pretzels of fantasy) and there are a select few that are reduced to foaming rage whenever the name is uttered.

And I hope I didn't just summon the Autist Brigade with my post
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>>48189505
>>48189512
>>48189576
You've caught my attention, Anon, what's so great about these comics?
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>>48192371
RQ6 is great for modern stuff.
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>>48192949
Oh okay. I never played RQ and just judged by the impression it made on me. Good to hear that RQ6 can into modern stuff.
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>>48186711
So is Talislanta good because it's good or just because it's different everyone grasps onto it for something new? I've never read it myself. I feel like it would be one of those things that just throws names on things and I'm supposed to pretend to know. Kind of like Jack Vance himself.
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>>48191481
>I've always wanted to write a setting where necromancy was just a source of free labour rather than a hobby for medieval nerds bent on world domination.

Dropped. Fucking everyone has thought of the good necromancy bullshit, and it's so tired and uninspired and creatively bankrupt that it's not even funny.
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>>48184738
Skulduggery Pleasant.
>Cool magic system, with everyone having a unique different type of magic styles instead of the regular wizards stuff
>Modern weapons and magic are used side by side
>Lovecraftian monsters here and there
Fuck it's like my dream come true.
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>>48193100
Those books have caught my eye a few times, how badly do they fall for the Young Adult trappings?
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>>48193073
Try "the Shattered World".

It's an interesting and different - entirely different - take on seeking the power of necromancy.
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>>48192877
The books vary in quality, but some are amazing. It's just that PCs in the RPG will always be overshadowed by Harry Dresden.
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>>48193073
Please name a product featuring this "good necromancy", since the market is saturated with them.
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>>48189736
Requiem is way too metal to try use it as a setting.
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>>48189362
Which is part of the reason why it's a great setting. It has it's own history and in-universe mythology, which you actually get to play in during other games in the series.
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>>48191639
nice
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>>48191481
>>48193073
I kinda did this in a game. A necromancer started raising the dead to put his backwards country into global competitiveness but it turns out ghosts can't pass when their corpse isn't allowed to rest so they started fucking shit up. In response to the increased dangers of the haunted world the necromancer started raising dead as warriors with grafted weapons and shit, then every country wanted their army of weaponized undead so he made mad bank and everyone went to war with everyone to prove their dicks were bigger causing the downfall of civilization and complete extinction of elves and dwarves.
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>>48189613
Rest in Peace Warhammer Fantasy. You still live on in out hearts.

AGE OF SIGMAR DOESN'T EXIST!!!
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>Comfy farming
>Comfy sailing
>Comfy magic
>Comfy world
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>>48193985
*our

DAMMIT!
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>>48193189
I read the first couple when I was younger, they were pretty good. Speaking with people who've read more though they seem to die off towards the end.
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>>48192877
>(let's be honest, it's the beer and pretzels of fantasy)
best description of the Dresden files I've ever seen
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>>48194035
My brother of African descent.
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>>48189637

I love the illustrations in those books.
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>>48192642
Pretty much exactly what I came here to post (with the exception of Planetscape, because I have no idea what that is)

also - only one mention of the Discworld in the whole thread? Come on /tg/, you're better than that.
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I have at least minor quibbles with every setting because I'm an asshole but there are a few that I love for the most part.

>Humancentric/Low Magic
aSoIaF and the Hyborian Age

>Standard Fantasy Races/Low-to-Moderate Magic
Dragon Age, the Witcher and Aventuria from TDE

>Balls-to-the-wall high fantasy
The Elder Scrolls
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>>48194317
The maps and pretty much any illustration in the twilight woods are 10/10
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>>48194339
Planescape is one of the more creative settings to come out of DnD (specifically 2e). It's focused on the collection of realms that form the cosmology of the normal DnD settings - the planes where Celestials, Fiends, Elementals, and Gods dwell. At the center of it all is the city of Sigil, a giant ring floating atop an infinitely tall spire. Sigil is known as the City of Doors because it contains (usually hidden) portals which can lead to almost any place in the multiverse.
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No Auriga? C'mon tg
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Warcraft, probably.

I like the over-the-top nature of it all, though I sort of just ignore everything post-WotLK.
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>>48195032
Dude Warcraft, all of WoW's (okay most but if you ask /me/ because I hate the fucking thing) nonsense aside, is actually rad as hell
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Honestly, I like pretty low-key stuff. Magic up the ass everywhere and wacky, weird shit just feels distracting and tasteless as hell. Fantasy is best when it accentuates instead of saturates. I don't usually go for straight fantastic history or anything, but I like my fantasy generally low and tasteful, where magic for the sake of magic isn't the crux of the conflict or anything like that.

There's less of those around than I'd like, sadly.
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>>48189347
> In the videogames they treat Dandelion's fanciful takes off how awesome he is as being actually true, and he gets to bone all the women.
Only in W1.
In W2 you can bed how many, two? Similar in W3 if you don't consider the DLC.
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>>48195391
follow Iorveth: Triss, Succubus, Cynthia
follow Roche: Triss, Ves, Cynthia
So 3.
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>>48192642
So to continue....

Good Tier
>Age of Sigmar (fuck me, right?)
>Hyborian Age
>Malifaux
>Warcraft

Decent Tier
>Dragon Age
>Forgotten Realms
>Iron Kingdoms
>Middle-Earth

I don't know enough about Narnia or TES or MTG to put in anywhere in my list.
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In no particular order;
The Hyborian Age
Glorantha
Warhammer Fantasy's Old World
The Ch'thulhu Mythos
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>>48195953
>age of sigmar
>god tier

You wot mate?
Do you really enjoy stormy stormtroopers of the storm?
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>>48195953
>Middle-Earth in the same category as fucking THE Dragon Age Setting (THEDAS)
>>>/out/
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>>48189618
Princess of Mars' take on the red planet. Between the wild west and the aliens its fantasy enough for me.
The Iron Throne world of the Gentlemen Bastards series (running a crew in Cammor would be so fine)
Belgariad/Malloreon world, if only for the comfiness
Ivalice in TA world as I never got the chance to play the original tactics and love the species. marche was always a faggot
And last, something that we may never see again in its full glory
Dominaria
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>>48196197
You're right.
It clearly belongs at least 2 tiers below Thedas.
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>>48195391
>Only in W1.
Okay, fair point. W1 was where you banged all the ladies. Witcher 2 & 3 have less of them.
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>>48196118
Reread that. it doesn't say god, it says good. God is in his previous post.

>>48196197
Arda's okay, but nothing special. It's good in that it inspired many other settings that are more interesting.

Cool that he invented languages and poetry for his world, sure. But the setting isn't especially interesting.

But the dragon age setting seemed like crap to me, so I still wouldn't lump them together.
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>>48196118
Names are stupid but I enjoy it. It's hilariously over the top
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>>48187904
Primarily because he gets all the pussy despite being a hideous(as far as the books are concerned at any rate) vagrant. In the books it isn't all that bad for the most part, but the first and second games are quite silly in this respect.
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In no particular order.

Hyborian Age
Witcher Setting (The Continent?)
THE Dragon Age Setting (Thedas)
Warhammer Fantasy
Eldar Scrolls
KSBD
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would it be sacrilegious to heavily borrow/steal from Warhammer Fantasy setting for the setting I want to develop and maybe even write about in later life?

I just miss it so much
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>>48196697
Fantasy lives and breathes derivative writing. If you veil your inspirations properly I doubt anyone will notice.
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>>48196697
Not realy nobody will mind you take a spade and dig up and make use of what GW shredded to hell pretty sure you can't do much worse then them.
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>>48187590
>Neverwhere
This.

I also have a thing for Freeport, the fantasy pirate city. It's cozy and really just what it sounds like.
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>>48193073
You say that like it's ever used outside of Saturday morning cartoons. The idea is brought up often enough, but nobody ever actually implements it in a serious setting.
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>>48187791
Let's be fair here, Dark Souls is only shit when a cycle is winding down. For the most part it's a perfectly nice high fantasy setting to live in.
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>>48184738
I quite like the Ar Tonelico setting, Too bad it's only really used for uninspired JRPG plots.
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>>48184738
Pillars of Eternity
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>>48197262
A setting is meaningless without stories set in them. And they are far better than what you give them credit for.
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>>48188916
>its another "i didnt like not being the main character" opinion

FF12 is the best Final Fantasy, and you need to unfuck your opinion.
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>>48189731
You should have known that when none of the books could live up to the first one and it literally only got worse and worse as the words prattled on about absolutely nothing by the time the fourth book rolled out.
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>>48184738
The Strange.
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Forgotten Realms (with planescape as the part of the cosmology) is my favourite setting for years since it came out. I read all the books and i still crave for more lore for my future campaigns.
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>>48184738
Auriga, the world in the 4x video Game Endless Legend.

I'm completely smitten by the lore that exists, and have been wrangling to make it workable in tabletop ever since I picked it up.
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>>48187904
>white-haired yellow-eyed scarred gritty handsome ladykilling veteran master swordsman wizard
I mean, that's just to start with.
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>>48187791


>>48197210
this

Are there any systems that work well with the Souls setting? Anything that captures the feeling? I love Soulsborne, if I had enough people interested I'd like to do something with it one day
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Bloodborne.

Great reconstruction of old gothic horror/fantasy horror tropes.
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>>48198629
>FF12 is best final fantasy
Not that guy, but I believe you meant FFTactics, followed by FF6. FF12 is third best Final Fantasy.
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>>48194339
I swear, one day I will make an honest-to-god effort to read Discworld, but Christ on a stick does it look intimidating to jump into.
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>>48199400
Don't forget Tactics Advance, that makes FF12 the fourth best.
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>>48199165
Don't forget that he's a straight homage ripoff of the original White Wolf. The one with white hair and yellow eyes who was a master wizard/swordsmen who loved to get his powers from potions. Y'know, who used the title "of Melnibone"
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>>48199432
it really isn't
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>>48186888
This looks like porn
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>>48199165
>white-haired
>yellow-eyed
Thats the entire race of Witchers.

>scarred
>gritty
Thats the type of setting he's in.

>handsome
Eh, okay

>ladykilling
He only killed the one lady I can remember, and to be fair she was trying to murder EVERYONE in the town, because she was after some wizard and he was safe in his tower on the outskirts of it.

>veteran master swordsman
Okay, so there's a positive trait.

>wizard
He has a couple of parlor tricks. Actual wizards consider him a joke, and they point out that "Witcher Magic" is childs play.

Honestly, he's an action hero who loses as often as he wins, and he has lucked into powerful friends over the years. Calling him a Mary Sue is a bit of a stretch. (Powerful Friends: Yennefer, The Lion of Cintra, Ciri, Dandelion, Regis, Villentretenmerth, Saesenthessis, Foltest, etc.)

Yes, his mother is now a powerful mage, but he was to dumb to even realize it when he met her, and just chalked her up to a mage who healed him when he was real fucked up, out of kindness.
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>>48199494
>Tactics Advance
>Main character is trying to drain the magic out of the world and force everyone back into the miserable lives they had in the mundane one.
>In winning, you end the world and doom that kid (who I believe was your best friend, been a while) to live as a cripple.
>In the top 3 best FFs.

I don't think so anon.

I'll admit the gameplay was decent (though I didn't like the "learn skills from items" mechanic at all, and those judges "laws" made little sense to me and I don't feel they should have been so prevalent with the arbitrary battle limitations), but the story was fucking terrible. Any game where the protagonist is actually the bad guy and you wish you were playing as the people trying to stop him because you don't want to help him succeed, has a weak story.

I only actually finished it because I enjoyed the combat, and I had already played through FFT like a dozen times.
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>>48199592
>Thats the entire race of Witchers.
Geralt is the only white haired one, due to him having undergone experimental drug trials.
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>>48199906
>Geralt was selected for additional experimentation based on how well the trial of the grasses went for him. The others similarly selected did not survive. His white hair is a result of that additional experimentation.
Huh. You learn something new every day. I thought that was a standard effect of the trial of the grasses, and thought that the others in the Wolf School who had dark hair were like Geralt said in W1, and had not undergone the trial of the grasses.

What about the yellow cats eyes?
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>>48200076
>What about the yellow cats eyes?
That is common to all Witchers, yeah.

Truth be told, the game pretties Geralt up a bit (probably to help you deal with all the staring at his mug you do). He'd probably look more like pic related.
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>>48200228
I have noticed he's gotten progressively prettier in each subsequent game.
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>>48199541
But where do you start? That reading map is a fucking ball of yarn!
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>>48200289
Eh, he sorted his hair out and started growing a beard. Guess it depends on what you think is pretty.
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>>48189725
>is
Have you been watching the last two seasons senpai?
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>>48200289
This is one ugly SOB.

>>48200337
Really wide mouth, dark sunken eyes, really short chin, big nose in comparison to rest of his face, plus the pale complexion and scars, I guess. Skinny

Now he's buffed up, gotten action hero face, and grew a beard.
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>>48200348
Six was pretty good.

Five only had three good things about it though, and two of them were Tyene Sand's tits.
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>>48200348
Not him, but the show's still not bad. It was better the first few seasons, but the past two have at least been pretty good.
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>>48200408
>Really wide mouth, dark sunken eyes, really short chin, big nose in comparison to rest of his face, plus the pale complexion and scars, I guess. Skinny
>Now he's buffed up, gotten action hero face, and grew a beard.
I guess you could argue that it's supposed to represent Geralt recovering his personality and memories over the course of the first two games?

Either way, I'm not really fussed.
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>>48196563
You have to consider that he's in far better shape than the average fat ugly peasants that are his competition. That has to count for something with the ladies.
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>>48200455
The buffing and beard sure. You can't change the ugly proportions of your face by regaining your memories and working out.

I'm just saying they made his face less ugly and more hollywood, pointing out in response to >>48200228 that he wasn't so prettied up in the first game, but he definitely is at this point.
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Plenty of people have already mentioned my favourites but I'll throw my lot in anyway. The Witcher is easily top tier for me, wonderful and colourful but still gritty. Bloodborne is another, it's one of those settings that almost feels tailor made to my interests. The third is ASOIAF. I like the books and their narrative well enough, but my main interest is everything encompassing that.
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>>48200574
>I'm just saying they made his face less ugly and more hollywood, pointing out in response to >>48200228 (You) # that he wasn't so prettied up in the first game, but he definitely is at this point.
Perhaps a consequence of the better mo-capping and graphics?

Eh, it's really not much of an issue, all things considered.
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>>48200600
You're not me, are you, oh double dubbed one?
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>>48200626
>Perhaps a consequence of the better mo-capping and graphics?
Don't think so. the game art matches the concept art pretty closely, I think it's just a deliberate redesign.

Not a huge issue by any stretch, I agree. But they do describe him as ugly in the novels, and he's not really ugly by the time you're playing Witcher 3.
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>>48186913
Underated post. Good stuff if you like sword and sorcery.

Others I like: Necromunda (as its own setting), Mordheim/Nightmare Creatures (same vibe), 4th ed. Warhammer Fantasy with Chaos Dwarfs, Shadowmoor, Ragemoor, and a few others.

But my favorite is hands-down: The Elabon Series, by Harry Turtledove. Excellent sword and sorcery (and how!) in a world that feels real; like our bronze age with a heaping sprinkle of fantasy. I love the pantheons, the characters and the prehistoric animals.
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Settings I enjoyed:
>TES
>Witcher world
>Warhammer fantasy
>Hyborian Age
>Pokemon

Settings I'm "meh" with:
>Equestria
>Thedas
>Naruto (at the START of the series)
>WOD
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>>48200820
>Naruto (at the START of the series)
You think the setting got better? Because I thought it stayed about the same. Not great, but meh, the whole way along.

Certainly no FMA or A:tLA or Dragonball. (Yes I know A:tLA is designed for an american audience, but it's a similar kind of action-heavy animated series)
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The First Law setting by Joe Abercrombie, but that's post-apoc.
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>>48200820

>Equestria

Why?
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>>48187593
My nigga. I loved those books.
But the Spar hawk series is my favorite
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>>48184738

Since Witcher, Tolkienverse, and Planescape already came up, I have to admit I'm a huge fan of the 4e DnD Points of Light setting. I have a huge boner for law vs. chaos and Greek myth, and the whole Dawn War thing basically wrapped its lips around my dick and sucked for the entirety of 4e's run.
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>>48200784
You should recall that a lot of people do call him ugly, freakish looking, scarred etc. Also, while he is more sturdy looking now instead of "emaciated", we have also been playing with Geralt for a while. It also depends on your perspective, I think Eskel isn't even that bad appearance wise, but everyone calls him ugly.
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>>48189725
Please stop posting as your opinions no longer matter.
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>>48192344
Orb of Aldur gives no fucking.
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>>48200329
I just started reading them in published order, but the Colour of Magic (it's the first published) or Guards! Guards! are both good ones to get you started.

I really enjoy the novels with Granny Weatherwax (Witches series) but those go down a bit easier if you understand a bit about how and why the world works, so I'd recommend you read a couple other novels first.

Also, that pic's out of date. Three novels have been released since I Shall Wear Midnight.
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The world of Gourmeinghast by Mervin Peak is one of my favourites. One of the first sprawling world-cities of decaying insane monarchs and rituals. It would be an interesting setting for a dark low fantasy game.

The Elric saga's take on sword&sandals and one of the early takes on ancient evil elves, law vs chaos, summoning ancient malelvolent entities from beyond, is a good one too.

The science/fantasy of Zelasny's Creatures Of Light And Darkness or Lord Of Light are both amazing if you want technofuture wizardy or Buddha respectively.
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>>48194339
>This
Discworld seems to be a comfy world to be in. Even death can be a bro.
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>>48196697
>would it be sacrilegious to heavily borrow/steal from Warhammer Fantasy setting

You mean to steal from all the shit that Warhammer Fantasy themselves stole from (and the stuff those guys stole and so on?)

>>48200600

Torrhen should never have fucking knelt. If Dorne could successfully wage guerrilla warfare against the sister-fuckers then the North should have been able to as well.
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>>48184738
> 1. A Song of Ice and Fire
> 2. The Witcher
> 3. Planescape
> 4. Warhammer Fantasy
> 5. I dunno
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>>48195032
Warcraft is dead to me.
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>>48187327
>>48187621

>autistic combat monsters
>Witchers are literally 40k's Space Marines dumped into a fantasy setting with fantasy explanations/processes for their superhuman abilities

>yfw the entire witcher series (books and games) are basically a fanfiction of dumping a 40k space marine into warhammer fantasy
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>>48200784

Triss also gets younger with every game. It was cool that the primary female character was a milf in the first game. It's a pretty pathetically small achievement, but it's a nice change from every woman protagonist in every game just being a huge breasted 19-year old.
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>>48202645
Witchers don't have half the sicc mods that Astartes have, nor do they have the same religious indoctrination that's central to the Astartes worldview and motivations. Also Witcher World is a lot less dangerous than WHF, with no Chaos, Dark Elves, or Skaven. You're reaching too hard. Way too hard. And you don't have a face.
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>>48202645
So any time a group undergoes rigorous trials and mutation to become superhuman, it's a space marine?
Just because 40k was the first setting where you saw it doesn't mean it's the first to do it or even the best known.
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>>48197210
>For the most part it's a perfectly nice high fantasy setting to live in.
[citation needed]

Just because it gets really shitty at the end of cycle doesn't mean that it wasn't shit to begin with.
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>>48199702
>>Main character is trying to drain the magic out of the world and force everyone back into the miserable lives they had in the mundane one.
>>In winning, you end the world and doom that kid (who I believe was your best friend, been a while) to live as a cripple.
I don't understand how anyone could think this isn't solid gold.

Also, it was his little brother.
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>>48199056
My nigga. EL is elder god tier.
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>>48202745
Yennefer is, if not a MILF I suppose, a grown woman.

And none of them are particularly busty. Triss maybe, but she's a lying whore so I don't want anything to do with her.
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>>48200931
No, the setting for Naruto got worse and worse until it was nothing but power levels and literally revolved around Naruto's homoerotic obsession with Sasuke. I understand that's what happens to virtually all Shonen but fuck man.

>>48201524
It's a setting with magical ponies literally driven by the magic of friendship and love. I mean sure, there are ideas I like (like the God Kings and the "three race" setup) and would love to see being used in a slightly darker and more "mature" context, but the whole thing is far too cutesy for my tastes. Don't get me wrong, I was a brony once but ultimately Equestria is just what it appears to be at first glance: a land of magic candy colored Ponies singing annoying songs.
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>>48202589
Torrhen was a bit of a wuss, but it made a sick art opportunity at least.
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>>48199400
>>48199494
You're wrong, but you're wrong in an extremely acceptable fashion.
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>>48203606
Hey, One Piece is mostly hanging on, but I guess that's because One Piece actually has some self awareness and doesn't take itself seriously at all, which is the usual shotgun souffle that shonen falls into.
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>>48202589
>Torrhen should never have fucking knelt. If Dorne could successfully wage guerrilla warfare against the sister-fuckers then the North should have been able to as well.
Mind you, the North's geography isn't really given to guerilla warfare the same way as Dorne's is. Their main geographical defence was always the Neck and Moat Cailin. Which are somewhat less than useful at defending against dragons.

Though I agree, that would make a really badass AU.
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>>48199283

Now youve got me feeling you haven't played it considering its very much cosmic horror with a thin layer of gothic on top.
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>>48184738
It honestly depends on my mood. I'm up for pretty much any kind of fantasy if I'm feeling it at the time, but I tend to always return to Stone Age/Tribal Fantasy, Weird West, Far Eastern, and whatever the fuck Banished Quest was; Soma knows how to build a world.
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>>48203924
To my eternal shame I haven't played it at all. No way I'm getting a PS4 just for one game.

You're right though, I forgot to mention the cosmic horror stuff.
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>>48203859
I still want to, one day, run "one piece with trains" using iron kingdoms.
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>>48189460
Escaflowne+Rayerth+Cybuster+(grid based miniature combat system with lots of customizabilty and crunch)+(nicely done social interactions system)=my wildest dreams.
The social and combat systems don't even need to be particularly compatible, since anytime a fight started everyone could just instantly summon their magical-mecha.
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>>48198400
>A setting is meaningless without stories set in them.
Yes, but that doesn't change that it's wasted on what's been set in it.
>And they are far better than what you give them credit for.
Not really. I do enjoy the games and I don't mind the ideas behind the stories, but the execution is very mediocre.
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>>48184738
Thule.

>great monster design
>conflict between nomadic and agrarian lifestyles
>traditional high adventure
>no options for edgelord PCs

10/10
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Science fantasy, nigga. Let's bring imperialism to feral Mars.
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>>48184738
I really like Garth Nix's Abhoorsen world.

The whole Death world just seems awesome and unique as do the Necromancers with their Bells, resurrecting the dead.
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>>48204303
I liked the idea that, on this side of big magic wall is Edwardian England, then on *this* side of the wall is fantasy land.

Plus the bells are cool.
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Kingkiller chronicles has an interesting take on... everything.

The Shannara series' setting still intrigues me, even if the stories are basic as fuck. Hadeshorn and the remnants of our apocalypse juxtaposed with a classic fantasy realm are what sticks with me.

Azeroth up until right before WoW.

Final Fantasy VII as a setting is also interesting to me, assuming the game is set while Materia exists but before the first bombing mission (and you never interact with Cloud et al, purely your own story of exploring and monster killing).

Dark Tower series. The world moving on.

Fable 1, sans the "special snowflake bloodline" shit so characteristic of British stories. As an American, I prefer my heroes make themselves, not be chosen by genetics.

>>48195953
Yeah, fuck you, actually.
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>>48184738
I don't really have a favorite. I'm not particularly fond of published fantasy settings. I usually go with a homebrew.
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>>48187380
The stories make it pretty clear that Witchers are actually capable of emotion and new media (The World of the Witcher.) Admits that Witchers are indeed capable of emotion and the reason why Witchers act the way they do is a mix of training (There desensitized to extreme violence and emotional responses as part of their job.) their mutations (Witchers have a degree of control over their emotions that is pretty inhuman.) and winding up jaded. (Most Witchers if they last long enough have probably seen and done things that leave them pretty distant from most other people.
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>>48187666
There is none really. Sure, most Witchers agree broadly agree on certain things but that's about it.
Witchers will often invoke 'The Witchers Code' to get out of certain situations or jobs they don't want to do or find unpalatable. This surprisingly works because most people in the setting will respect someone for sticking to their Order/Guilds laws/code of conduct and will leave well enough alone.
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>>48187801
To be fair. In both cases it wasn't so much him being a shitty planner as it was him fighting a really powerful Vampire and the second was not realizing the Princess still had sharp enough claws to try and rip his throat out.
He's chewed out about it later by Mother Nenneke who points out normally the Princess wouldn't have gotten the chance.
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>>48189986
Actually while Ciri is sorta Sueish I saw her also as a slight deconstruction of the trope. Because it doesn't matter how long her titles are, or how much of a badass warrior she was or even that she could sling spells. None of that mattered because her 'role' that Destiny had foisted upon her wasn't the one of Heroine or Chosen One. Her 'role' was that of a Broodmare so she could give birth to the REAL Chosen One, literally the most important thing about Cirilla Fiona Elen Riannon was her womb and whose dick would be the one to get her knocked up.
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>>48200329
You can start anywhere. Read the blurb on the back of the books and pick one you think you'll like. Just have a look at the reading map/timeline from time to time.
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>>48202589
The Dornish came from a culture that had fought dragons and knew how to fight and kill them if need be. The geography of their country also helped plenty.
The North didn't have those pluses and literally everyone other then the Dornish that stood against the Targs got fucking SMOTE. In more then one case completely destroying a Great House.
Torrhen did what was best for his people.
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>>48184892
>Slav folklore

Not my cup of tea. Sorry, I dig western shit.
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>>48186746
The books Geralt is atrociously Sue; on the level of Kvothe and Eragon. Can't stand the stories.

GAME Geralt, however, is significantly more cool, because if you fail a lot, you get this sense that maybe his legends are a bit played up.

The world, apart from the whole Ciri thing, is actually reasonably rad.
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>>48189803
danke schoen
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>>48184738
I love Tolkein's Arda and the Forgotten Realms' Faerun. Neither is perfect, no, but there's a fine balance of grim, wartorn despair and lighthearted fun in each.
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Tolkien is my absolute favorite, and not just his Arda universe either. The Silmarillion to me is simply perfect. The landscape, the mixture of exiled high knowledged people in the Noldor, as well as Green and Grey Elves throughout and smutterings of other peoples all with different feelings to them.

I really like how there's a 'lack of' magic in the sense of a lot of fantasy, but it's there in some forms or another.

Another sort of fantasy I really love is something that is quintessentially Fae, but often I never seen done well by modern writers. A good example would be Tolkien's short story called Smith of Wooten Major, although the Hobbit is somewhat Fae as well and I loved the chapters on Mirkwood since I'm a sucker for spooky/corrupted forests and how he painted the elves there.
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>>48193189
Skullduggery is a cool guy, but the girl is such a "normal dark haired girl, insert yourself here". And the villain is... just some necromancer dude with lame minions (seriously, human-shaped balloons with weighted fists)
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My favorite all around fantasy setting is probably Diana Wynne Jones' Chrestomanci series, followed by the Wheel of Time.

My favorite tabletop setting is probably Spelljammer.
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>>48187801
Geralt only fought the Bruxae and he offered to lift it but the "Beast" didn't want it. The "backfire" was that the Bruxae really loved the "Beast".
>>48195428
You forgot the she-elf
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>>48205611
Yeah, Middle-Earth is still the heart of the fantasy genre. Is it plain vanilla? Sure. But that's part of its appeal.
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>>48184738
I'm partial to Trudvang. It's one of the most thoughtful Norse mythology inspired fantasy settings I have ever seen.

>>48186779
Is he a bigger Mary Sue than Elric which he is blatantly based on? Also, I'm not sure that Elric can be a huge Mary Sue since he was created to break character genre conventions in sword & sorcery. Meanwhile, Geralt is designed to one up Elric.
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>>48205883
I'd say no. I mean Geralt got completely obliberated by ... shit I don't remember the name of the guy. The mage in the books.
And he also had a hard time fighting Bonhart.

Geralt is a character with problems and shortcomings, I personally don't think he's a sue. He's kind of a special snowflake though, with the extra experiments done on him and being known everywhere thanks to the Dandy Lion.
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>>48205970
You're thinking of Vilgefortz.
That's probably the worst he's ever hurt in the books because he just DEMOLISHES Geralt in a fight and it takes Geralt several months to recover.
He only ever managed to kill him because Vilgefortz was an amazingly and stupidly arrogant man (especially by the end) who wanted to prove to Geralt that he had Geralt beat in all ways, including fencing, at which point he was promptly killed in a duel.
Before that he rather effortlessly defeats Geralt, and with seemingly even less effort obliterates Regis who at that point in the series was pretty much shown to be nearly unkillable to anything at all.
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>>48205970
Elric is also a character with plenty of personal problems and shortcomings. Just having those in the characters luggage doesn't exactly make them wellwritten characters by default.
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>>48206006
Yes, that's the name, thank you!

Also concerning Regis, I think there was an Interview with Sapkowski where it sounds like Regis might recover from that. Even though that will probably never written about any more. Can't find the interview now though.
Fire can't melt Elder Vampires

But he also has trouble fighting the Zeugl in A shard of ice.

>>48206075
Well maybe I'm missunderstanding the term Mary Sue. How I understand the term is a character that is kinda without fail, one that somewhat easily overcomes all things presented. Pretty much a self insert that the author does not even want to have a hard time or something like that.
Of course you are right in that having problems does not automatically make them wellwritten characters. But that's not what I wanted to say.
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>>48206125
The term Mary Sue is originally just meant for heavy handed. fanfiction OC's. It has later just transformed into characters that are written with infinite plot armour and all other characters revolve around them.

I wouldn't say that Elric falls too much in this category since he constantly do things he regrets due to lack of impulse control and for the most part he is just denied living a normal life by the powers of fate, which he comes to resents. But he is pretty much a superhero in terms of the power he wields and being the main character in the setting.
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New Crobuzon or Urth
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The Hyborian Age
>I just love the idea of a forgotten era in our own history and how gritty the world is while being splenderous at the same time. Conan is also awesome.

Warhammer Fantasy Battles
>Only around the 1994-2005 era, though. Everything after that period has just been rubbish and it just keeps getting worse.

The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
>Because everything else released in TES besides Morrowind has been mediocre and/or contrived.

Demon's Souls
>Not so much the actual lore of the setting, but much more how the setting is presented in a very natural way. You travel from a distant land to tackle a world ending menace, no character gives you absolute exposition about what's actually going on because they are almost as much in the dark as you are about the truth of the situation. Some people that do understand the situation don't understand the full gravity of the situation and thinks it's something they can take advantage of. The story doesn't treat you like the main character and most other major characters wants to take advantage of you. Most of all the presentation gets across the importance of show and don't tell. It really gets you immersed in the game world and is a great example of how to GM a murderhobo story.
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>Ravnica, City of Guilds

I prefer it during the Return to Ravnica era, where House Dimir has kinda-sorta come out of the shadows as Perfectly Legitimate Detective Agency/Information Brokerage.
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>>48206125
> I think there was an Interview with Sapkowski where it sounds like Regis might recover from that.

He already did.
Inb4: the games ain't canon
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>>48187707
>Be prepared for comfy well-executed clichés
This is a great description of almost everything by David Eddings. The books are familiar even on first reading, like you've read them half a dozen times before. They're not all that engrossing, but they flow along smoothly, and you never stutter over "what just happened" because the characters are usually quite explicit about what tricks they're pulling.
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>>48205354
>>48203914

I'm not saying I don't get why Torrhen did it or that I wouldn't have done the same in his place. Just that in 20/20 hindsight it probably wasn't necessary.

The main reason Dorne was able to hold out against the dragons was because dragons only really work against clustered targets and the Dornish were smart enough to evacuate their castles and major settlements to deny Aegon of said targets. The North is SUPER sparsely populated to begin with with almost no major settlements and lots of people more or less living off the land already so a similar tactic might very well have worked. White Harbor might have burned but even then I'm not actually sure Aegon was the type of guy to actually torch a whole city. Meanwhile the marshmen could have bled his army pretty badly if/when he tried a land assault.
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>>48209918
The North is also super susceptible to Winters and those settlements are absolutely vital if you want you and yours to not starve to death when Winter finally comes.
Regardless, the battles waged in Dorne were among the last. Torrhen got to hear about the Burning of Harrenhall, the Last Storm and the Field of Fire and wisely bent the knee.
Up until Aegon tried to make the Dornish submit no one thought there was a way to counter the Dragons.
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>>48206006
Geralt was only able to kill Vilgefortz because of Regis.
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Can't pick one. Top three though? Much easier.

Warhammer Fantasy
Tolkien's
Rift, the short lived MMO
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>>48210405

Rift is still around, although I haven't played it in years.

Don't remember much about the setting but it was certainly a fun game.
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>>48187513
Now right here us a fellow who knows what's good
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>>48210563
It died the way it went Free to Play, in my mind. All MMOs die on that day. The fact they still "exist" is more akin to Zombies or someone on full life support.
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