MtG Eldritch Moon Spoiler Thread
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>Influence of Emrakul
>2GG
>Enchantment
>Every time you cast a Eldrazi creature spell with a converted mana cost higher then or equal to 7, draw two cards.
>>48005797
>art depicts Jacetice league fighting
For fuck's sake are we going to get one every block
>>48005786
Holy shit, he makes 1/1 wizards that turn 3/2 fliers when he flips. So he's basically going around spawning more Delvers. 10/10 flavour.
>>48005786
>>48005797
I'm glad they're going back to Eldrazi being fatties instead of efficient beaters.
>>48005786
13/13 flavor
>>48005786
So it's Delver, his iteration in SOI and now this guy.
This all paints a rather flavorful story. I love this .
>>48005786
>delver depicts a guy with an insect in the cage
>docent depicts and insect with a guy in the cage
>>48005880
POTTERY!
>>48005786
Okay, now THIS I like.
>>48005888
I love how his effect carries over this time around, so you are now creating armies of 3/2 Wizard tokens. and that's on top of the bonus being applied to your other wizards.
>>48005786
Delver was common
SOI Delver was uncommon
EMN Delver is rare
The saga concludes with a mythic card in Innistradvs Phyrexia
>>48005805
Read in a nasely Jew voice:
>GUYS we have found market research shows things people like are actually unpopular.
>our research groups of 15 people we found at a Starbucks up the road show that people like things that are in pop culture at the current moment
>due to the nature of Magic development it takes 2 years to develop things.
>this means you get to experience the awesome fads from almost 30 months ago all over again but with awesome +1/+1 counter mechanics with more black people than ever!
>>48005906
>Innistrad vs Phrexia
muh dik
>>48005906
>it flips back into a 1/1 human wizard with some insane transform effect
>>48005906
>Mythic Meld Card
Yay! Should it be a Hanweir-type-thing, that is, a land and a creature that meld into a single legendary?
>>48005911
Back to the containment board >>>/pol/
>>48005786
I'd like to build a flavour deck around the 3 delver cards. Damn. I love it.
>>48005906
>Mythic legendary eldrazi insect that flips into a planeswalker
>Traverses the planes sharing his research
Make it happen WOTC.
>>48005786
>3UU
Fuuuuuck. Whelp, if this was a bit cheaper this would be disgusting. As is, unplayable in every format?
>>48005786
is it time for jank wizard tribals to make a resurgence
>>48006008
EDH calls in the distance
>>48005994
Good luck to you.
>>48005984
What's it like on the right side of history Mr. I Have to Censor or Remove Ideas Different than Mine.
>>48006049
Feel free to have them, but back on your containment board.
>>48006070
Asshurt detected.
To actually contribute something meaningful:
Do you think they will make Meld an actual thing in another set? They seemed really hyped about it in the announcement article. Too hyped to just ditch it. It sounded a lot different than the usual pony show they do for their usual garbage mechanics.
I wish there was a way you could just keep evolving the basic Delver all the way up to this
>>48006094
>Do you think they will make Meld an actual thing in another set?
I think it would fit in Phyrexia, Kaladesh orKamigawabut you could also use it on Lorwyn, Tarkir or Ravnica.
>>48006094
I gotta say I really like the mechanic. Maybe I'm the minority here with that but I really do. So I hope they do more, if the cards with it keep the quality of the three we have.
>>48006105
That would be a nice thing. Maybe they make an instant or sorcery that enables you to replace a creature with one from your hand and uses the Emerge mechanic. But from the name of it I think emerge is meant to be an eldrazi mechanic.
>>48006125
I could see it for a lot too but not on every plane.
It really works best for artifacts and black stuff.
>>48006105
No problem, just use the mechanic from Tarkir that let you place cards from your deck out as face down tokens, the interaction with a DFC might be a bit screwy though.
>>48006094
Depends on what kind of reception it gets. They did bring back double-faced cards so why not Meld. I doubt we'll see it soon, though. Maybe when we'll get Innistrad 3: Die Harder.
>>48006156
>Innistrad 3: Die Harder
Can't wait to see what the 6/5 Eldrazi Insect flips into in that set.
>>48006169
> Implying the flying insect wizard liberation army won't save this world from the eldrazi menace.> Delver was a good guy all along!
>>48006169
>Can't wait to see what the 6/5 Eldrazi Insect flips into in that set.
Neither can I.
>>48006181
>/You and what army?/'mrakul
>Suddenly bugwizards.
>"You were saying?"
>>48006169
A 1/1 Wizard that when it dies, you get to cast every instant and/or sorcery in your graveyard for free, the shuffle them into your library
>>48005797
Welp, into Animar it goes!
>>48005786
I guess this explains why delver was a common. I didn't think insect wizards were all that common on innistrad, but this proves me wrong.
Unfortunate that he's barely constructed playable outside of EDH and mayyybe Standard. Would've been nice as a commander at least.
>>48005786
Unrelated to the OP
But I'm working on making a Green White token deck
Just wondering if you guys could recommend any cards for me. Its just for casual play so I don't care what set its from.
>>48005786
Seems like an include into Azami decks
>>48006181
but he turns into an eldrazi insect
>>48006008
Its great in grixis wizard tribal.
>>48006235
Desolation Twin.
Populate those 10/10 Eldrazi tokens.
I like the card but it kind of irks me that it's an eldrazi when the previous iterations were mad scientists.
>>48006094
Well, think about it. We've got a an artifact-based block coming up, and a mechanic that's based around combining different creatures...
>>48006287
It also drops the token if it gets countered and pairs well with from beyond.
>>48005786
Good lord, Delver was Eldrazi all along
>>48006292
It's a mad scientist infected by Emrakul.
>>48006292
Makes sense to me. He's seen all the Emrakul mutation going around and has incorporated it into his research. Only small minds fear knowledge!
>>48006304
I guess it wors lorewise if he was one of the first to hear the old gods
>>48006299
fuck you
put in contraptions maro you nigger
>>48006323
>contraptions are a type of artifact creature in kaladesh
>the only rigger is a reprint of steamflogger boss
>nothing makes contraptions
Do you rike it?
>>48006323
>tfw you've been holding on to a playset of Steamfloggers for years now
>tfw they might actually be something other than a joke finally
>>48005786
I'm pretty sure that Chinamen that was banned from channel fireball brewed a kind of decent mono blue tribal wizard deck.
>>48006349
Sorry but that'll never happen
>>48006349
They already said no riggers or contraptions.
>>48006349
Youre retarded, like you should go apply for welfare and tell then what you've done and youll get ebt retarded.
>>48006411
I originally got them specifically to be joke cards.
I was just hoping that their jank would actually be used.
>>48005786
urw wizards on standard with stormchaser, reflector, thing in the ice and a bunch of burn/counter/removal
not saying it will be viable but i"ll try it anyway
>>48006008
5 is about right for a control deck's beatstick. And this beatstick shits out free goys every time you counterspell, seems very playable to me.
>>48005797
>Gatewatch in everything now
Absolutely Disgusting
Is nobody going to talk about unsummon+remand?
>>48006538
Not much to say. It's just fucking fantastic.
>>48006538
There is no reason to be mad at it, so no.
>>48006432
Steam flogger feels win more too.
>>48006538
They should print more "Return spells to hand" effects. Sure they're not as strong as a counterspell, but they are so much fucking more enjoyable to play against and around while additionaly letting control decks have a better unconditional "counter" strength early game without straight up printing counterspell.
Plus if you delays their turn 2 play in time to counter it on turn 3 it's a good feeling and makes higher cost counters more excusable.
>>48006477
Well, I mean unplayable was a hyperbole but I just don't see spell-heavy decks being above T2 in Standard what with Maro's boner for creatures. Like sure, having a beatstick that shit's out 3/2s whenever you cast a spell is fucking great, but your spells are still going to be largely shit.
It's the sort of card that is just way better in older formats, unfortunately 5CMC is way too high for a creature in the formats where the spells are good enough. I mean if it was like 1UU or 2UU (with obviously lower base stats) I think it would be great.
For you guys =)
>>48006598
They just printed Remand // Unsummon, control only needs a good counterspell now and it's viable.
>>48006553
>>48006561
When the fuck did they say they were going to let blue play magic again?
>>48005797
>Eldrazi spell
>no devoid
BRAVO ROSEWATER
>>48006609
scatter to the winds is a good counter now, activate your fumarole and beat face with your 7/4 after unsubstantiate buys you time to get 6 mana.
>>48006008
Fun for casual in most forms, EDH or otherwise. It is mainly a flavor card, not pushed for constructed.
>>48006606
Thanks.
>>48006606
I'm honestly more invested in this guy than any of the superfriends
>>48006606
I'm a little disappointed that he didnt fight the eldrazi, but what can you do
>>48006598
>but I just don't see spell-heavy decks being above T2 in Standard
Thanks for posting this anon, I had been considering trying standard again after seeing a card from the last set, gheistblast or something that you could exile from the yard to copy your spells.
But your post reminded me that CoCo, Dog-Knot Seer and Womb Smasher got printed in standard and spell players can't have nice things.
>>48006322
Nah, I don't think Emrakul's been on the plane long enough. More likely it's >>48006318
>>48006633
>Was about to tell you off for being retarded and that it never said Eldrazi, only 7 CMC
>read it again
I guess my mind didn't want to comprehend the utter fucking retardation that is this card. Why the fuck must it be only Eldrazi? Most of the shit that would be played with this would BE over 7CMC anyway. It's fucking retarded.
>>48006322
Ah, Emeria, or, some say, Emrakul, do you hear our prayers?
Innistrad Micolash when?
>>48006701
>Most of the shit that would be played with this would BE over 7CMC anyway.
I guess I truly am retarded, I meant most CMC7+ stuff played in standard is ELDRAZI anyway, so why restrict it from the one or two other cards that could be run with it.
>>48006701
Because it's an Eldrazi card? There's already a card like this that uses the Ferocious trigger.
>>48006701
>>48006633
This is an uncommon designed to help emerge as an archetype. They don't want it to slot into any late game deck with expensive creatures, as the people doing Emerge would be less likely to get one.
Purely limited card. And no devoid in this set. Why do you want it?
>>48006637
>scatter to the winds is a good counter now
>paying 11 mana to swing with a 4 toughness, nonevasive land
You don't actually think that's a good deal do you?
>>48006606
In my headcannon I'd like to imagine he's Innistrad's Batman, creating an army of lesser batmen to fight the eldrazi with their own eldritch powers.
>>48006724
You can block with it if you time it right. Then it is like a 2 for 1 that leaves you with a big creature.
>>48006606
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbGs_qK2PQA
>>48006743
>"W-who the hell are you?"
>"I'm Delverman."
>>48006719
Ferocious is a power trigger, this is a CMC trigger. Furthermore, this one draws 2 cards because IT'S A FUCKING 7CMC TRIGGER.
>Because it's an eldrazi card?
This is a retarded rationalization. "Flavour reasons" has ruined many possible uses of an otherwise fun card. And the 'flavour' isn't even fucking good, just more bland eldrazi gruel.
>>48006724
Its not 11 mana on 1 turn, and its a better investment of 11 mana than the soi counter that gives clues
>>48006773
It isn't for flavor.
>>48006722
It is a niche card for limited.
>>48006809
>a niche card for limited.
>card for limited.
>limited.
>limited.
Could Wizards please fucking make an entirely separate product for limited, 'skilled draft format' babbies to buy so they would stop designing shit cards that are worth less than the cardboard they're printed on?
Drafting is better done online or in cubes anyway. It's intentional pack pollution to make actually good cards more scarce than they need to be.
>>48006748
If I'm paying 6 mana for a reactive instant I want a 2-for-1 at the least, not as a beast-case scenario.
>>48006802
But that counter sucks too. You guys realize there is an intrinsic relationship between counter spells and mana cost right? Moreso than normal spells.
>>48006420
Maro is determined to make it work. Mostly because Aaron Forsythe explained the joke.
Delver-Man
Delver-Man
Does whatever a Delver can.
>>48006606
Don't do bugs kids.
>>48005906The saga actually concludes with a timeshifted Delver from Future Sight 2: The Futurering
>>48006871
Can he flip
On the field
No he can'tIt's fucking transform
>>48006847
Look, I'm sorry you didn't get a good card for your EDH deck. But even if this card didn't say Eldrazi on it, it would've been absolute garbage for any serious competitive play.
Now it exists for a real reason, limited. And as an extra bonus, it'll make adorable casual decks that use Hand of Emrakul.
Looks like Eldrazi are primarily UG in this set, with Emerge being their principle mechanic. That's likely the UG archetype seeing as clues didn't come back.
>>48006868
The clues and investigate seem inspired by it, at least.
>>48006937
All they have to do is errata Steamflogger to say "assemble" instead of "assemble a contraption" and make assemble mean putting a contraption token into play. Then Steamflogger is just like that investigate ghost.
But that's kind of going against the spirit of the whole thing.
>>48006606
>the new delver costs B more than the one from SoI
>2 more power and toughness before flipped
>generates tokens
>its flip isn't just a beater
God Aberrant Researcher is such a piece of shit card. I get that its an uncommon, but fuck what a waste.
>>48006743
>headcannon
end your life my man
>>48005786
Well this is certainly going in my UR instant/sorcery deck. My Stormchaser Mages will love this guy.
Also the flavor is fantastic.
>>48005805
yes, until Phyrexia returns and kills a few members off.
>>48006864
Thats why everyone is excited for this remand, because cancel is unplayable. Scatter to the winds at least gives you a 3/3 and is the least shitty version of cancel to exist yet.
>>48006971
Delver is just a beater. It also fuels delirium.
I guess it could've gained another keyword or something, but they knew they were gonna make a third form and he'd have to have that, so they played it safe.
>>48006998
I thought everyone loved dissolve and dissipate.
>>48006974
3 Jori En
4 Stormchaser Mage
4 Docents
Rest is burn, bounce and some counterspells
Viable?
>>48007015
thing in the ice maybe?
with a bunch of counterspells and fevered visions you cannot loose a control matchup but against aggro is harder desu
>>48006998
Void Shatter is strictly less shittier.
I"m liking clash and spell shrivel a bunch lately
>>48007009
We lost dissolve and void shatter is dissipate, but that doesnt do shit against humans. Maybe with the daddy delver we can enjoy void shatter instead of needing more from the cancel.
>>48006606
Human Wizard Insect Horror Eldrazi
>>48006606
and only 1 of those is playable
>>48007009
>I thought everyone loved dissolve and dissipate.
Can confirm, I love Dissolve, Dissipate and any variation on Cancel.
Because they're so shit and I hate counterfags. The sooner counters get removed the better, I'd rather get some actually unique spells rather than wizards having to print a fucking critical mass of shitty cards every set so blue babbies can continue to play boring stallfests while jerking of to what little power they are able to hold over others in their lives.
>>48007056
Eldrazi Insect ->planeswalker
>>48007061
Green boy is right, cancel is blue for cuckold.
>>48007061
hell yeah dude
i better play mono-white in std and win game turn 3
i better play the shitty combos in eternals to win turn 1
way to go
>>48007061
Have fun, buddy.
>>48007044
Man, this is making me want to try Standard. Such a bad idea though. I can't keep up with the meta and I don't have any of the key cards.
Standard always gets shat on, but I love seeing cards like Rally the Ancestors go from trash jank rare to critical piece in well placed deck over the course of a month.
>>48007107
I bet you love buying new cards you can never use again every couple of months, too. Standard is actually the most expensive format.
>>48007086
>Green boy is right,
But anon, I actually enjoyBlue/Red spellslinger decks made up of actually interesting and fun effects.
I only hate counters because they're such a linear design and a continuous waste of card space in every set.
Also because counterspells are the cause of creature cancer.
The reason fucking every creature is loaded with cast triggers, ETB triggers or on-death effects is because strong removal and counterspells forces creatures to be this strong to even compete with control decks.
Controlbabs complain about Creatures: The Tappening when the existence of their favourite cards and how those cards stomped creature strategies into the ground is how things got this way.
Basically good control spells results in cancerous creatures. There is no good balance between fun creature strategy and run removal strategies.
>>48006847
No. Because fuck you.
>>48006606
Oh, and each one is a step up in rarity from the previous one. Neat.
>>48007170
Is interesting and fun prowess and bolts or the forbidden one? Because untap shenanigans are great, cantrips are dope and flying is my favorite form of evasion but blue and red can do some retarded and unfun stuff when its not countering and drawing all the cards.
>>48007166
I already buy too many cards I don't use. I buy a box of every set released. If I am spending money anyway, may as well try something with it.
Legacy doesn't interest me much. I could theoretically just buy a RUG Delver deck, but I get stressed easily and will fuck up my Brainstorms.
Modern is a shitshow as far as I can tell right now.
>>48006538
Part Remand, part Unsummon, all card disadvantage, what's there to talk about?
>hah! I'll delay your uncounterable Abrupt Decay for a turn, bet you didn't see that coming!
>>48007302
It's a pure tempo card, nothing about it should be used as a counterspell.
>>48007312
And it's shit at even pure tempo, only reason why Remand sees play is because it cantrips.
>>48005797
>2GG
>Whenever you win the game, win more!
Who's in charge for this shit?
>>48007332
This isnt a cuck thread its a spoilers thread, take your cancer to the modern general.
>>48005797
I love how Jace thinks mind magic works against mindless horrors.
Aw, this guy really likes his horse
oh fuck
>>48007356
Its probably giving them -2/0
>>48007355
>make claim
>get rebutted
>proceed to shitpost
Predictable.
>>48007332
Sure thing, we'll see when the card is actually released.
>>48007361
>the flavour text
Yeeesh, little on the nose there.
Aw, this guy really likes his fish
>>48007361
>>48007372
Holy shit this is actually playable in Soul sisters.
oh fuck
>Eldrazi Fish
>>48007361
>>48007372
Solid pick in limited, maaaaybe it will see some play in constructed? I mean, lifelink first strike is a fairly good combination, you just need a way of buffing him and he even flips himself if that's the case.
>>48007374
Its huge for standard, go back to jerking off over inquisition of kozilek.
I heard you like cards
>>48007402
>not "there's always a bigger fish"
shit tier flavour text
>>48007372
That makes a damn fine argument for that "Gain 4 life" modal spell.
I heard you like """shocks"""
>>48007414
I honestly though it was going to be that 0/10 card.
>>48007413
It's almost like Kindle but for card drawing.
Yay, intro pack rares
>>48007430
>target creature
Fuck you too Wizards
>>48007413
so strictly worse accumulated knowledge
Any decent enchantments? I want to give my Esper Demonic Pact deck one last hurrah before rotation.
>>48007403
>a way of buffing him
>him being a human
yeah that seems hard.
This just in: green likes big butts
limited bomb too.
>>48007451
It's actually not strictly, since playing accumulated first in a "mirror" leads to card disadvantage which isn't a risk with this.
Limited bomb
>>48007430
>tfw even shock is too good for standard.
Wizards are determined to make standard nothing but creatures and planeswalkers.
>>48007430
YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS
>>48007392
Not sure. I'd take pridemate over this every day considering under the same circumstances to flip this guy he'd be a 5/5.
>>48007469
referring to
>>48007446
Doggos
>>48007459
Man Soul of the Harvest really let himself go.
>>48007471
hmm, true. Still, I prefer card draw I can cast at the opp's end step
>>48007361
>>48007372
4/4 first strike, trample and lifelink on turn 3? Seems good
>>48007450
It fits the lore, geists are a source of infinate rage and not being able to bolt face makes red players mad.
Zombambos
>>48007477
>Target creature
Oh wait. Nevermind.
Fuck you too, wotc.
>>48007485
Why would Alphas assemble? There should only be one Alpha per wolf pack and why would they work together? Suspension of disbelief broken!
>>48007413
>>48007430
Those make sense with all the self-mill in Innistrad, I guess.
>>48007493
>at the beginning of the end step
he's not swinging as a 4/4 until turn four. still solid but if he flipped the moment you gained your third life he'd be bananas
>>48007510
Because Ulrich is the uncontested alpha, and he has united the various packs to fight the eldrazi. I think.
So when are they going to start spoiling the good cards?
>>48007446
>>48007459
>>48007473
>>48007485
>>48007501
So anons. Best intro pack rare?
>>48007524
Never
>>48007524
hey,>>48007361 is decent
>>48007526
niblis of frost, going into my spellslinger edh.
>>48007510
Well sometimes shit gets too real and you need the biggest and baddest to deal with it, so you get a bunch of alphas together. Maybe form a pact of some sort, make a pledge. Yeah, pledge of the portalkeepers, sounds about right.
>>48007526
The prowess ice ghost, your 8 year old cousin wont be able to comprehend the nature of your attack.
>>48007524
In continuing with Innistrad's horror theme element. These are the good cards.
>>48007526
niblis, easily.
>>48007524
What good cards? :^)
>>48007340
Oh look at me, look how much I am wing by casting this thing, surely this is all I need to win.
>>48007543
How horrifying.
>>48007402
So did he fuse with the ship or is he just part of the lure?
>>48007524
>t. shitter
Hahahah.
>>48007289
>Is interesting and fun prowess and bolts or the forbidden one?
Interesting and fun is things like Gut Shot, Quicken, Worldfire ;)
But memes aside I mean more effects like this. Things that slightly bend the fundamental rules of the game. I also had a super casual deck in RtR/Theros using tons of draw/ spells and draw/discard spells plus Spellhide Chimeras and shit.
I just like casting spells and feeling wizardly damnit.
Has Gideon shown signs of dying soon, or has WotC decided to go whole hog and take everything/one related to White mana and tentacle fuck it until the storyboard director dies of masturbation-induced heart failure?
>>48007566
The fish behind him merged with him.
>>48007554
>tfw wretched griff and emrakul's influence end up forming the core of some emerge value engine that throttles standard
>>48007526
Blue in constructed (still probably not standard playable), red and black in limited
>>48007402
Holy shit, he's the lure.
>>48007482
He's not a pridemate replacement, he's a pridemate complement.
The problem with soul sisters is that Pridemate and Serra transcendent are their only big threats once you bolt/path them, they usually trade turns and lifepoints (because they can) to draw another threat or stabilizes the field with tokens. Lone Rider is that third big threat allowing soul sisters to maintain their momentum.
>>48007450
Are you kidding me? Why want more shit for burn?
>>48007571
>I also had a super casual deck in RtR/Theros using tons of draw/ spells and draw/discard spells plus Spellhide Chimeras and shit
Jesus I had the same deck, I tried SO HARD to make the damn Chimera work all the time while it was on standard. I'll probably try to do the same with Delverman.
>>48007485
Fun. I like cards that care about combat in red.
>>48007413
The only reason this card is a sorcery instead of just being accumulated knowledge is to fuel delirium, since most decks get stuck at 3 card-types (creature land instant).
>>48007450
Do you really want to live in a world where you can do 14 damage to face for 4 mana? I know I don't.
>>48007361
>>48007389
Seems to me that these were originally designed as Meld cards, but got changed in development
>>48007450
bolting for potentially 4 or 5 damage on one mana would be dumb, especially with the likelihood of bolting for 3 already.
>>48007598
>tfw there will never be another ire of kaminari deck
i really wanted spellheart chimera to be creature of kaminari but it just didn't happen. arcane till you're red in the face is the most fun i've ever had in standard.
>>48007592
At that point what are you cutting? Elspeths? Hawks? Paths? Proclamation? Eos, the 3 sisters and ascendants kinda have to stay and everything else is kinda needed too. I haven't looked at modern for a while so all I know is the mono white version so sorry if that doesn't apply.
>>48007571
Ive got a pretty comfy izzet prowess deck, it feels soo good to get a 9/9 mage ring bully on turn 4.
>literally flame burst and sorcery accumulated knowledge
>bounce a spell
>fatties that reward me for casting spells
Hello tempo spellslinger
It's good to see you
I still have all my spellheart Chimeras from theros
>>48007631
>Rider + Horse = Eldrazi Centaur
>Fisherman + Fish = Eldrazi Mermaid
I LIKE IT
>>48007631
I'll give you the fish, but what's the second card to man-on-horse to become man-in-horse?
>>48006609
It helps. It really does, but you can't compete with the sheer fucking value of Midrange goodstuff faggots. Especially with cards that are essentially Tempo tools.
If it get's some more support, maybe UR Tempo could be a thing, but it needs a cheap threat and way more viable spells. Along with yeah, a non-shitty counterspell. Which is just not going to get printed because universal answers are in Wotc's mind, toxic.
>>48006662
Standard is just a horrible format right now. It somehow managed to become even worse than Abzan Goodstuff vs. other CoCo Goodstuff. At least Rally was a fun deck to play in the last rotation even if you still had to play goddamn CoCo.
Don't even mention TKS. Somehow that fucking card has managed to become played in every single format. There is nowhere to hide and nowhere to run from a t1-2 4/4 that also Duress' you.
>>48007596
Burn isn't a thing this Standard season
>>48007621
They could have made it cost 1 more in exchange for letting it hit face and it'd still be fair
>>48007526
Niblis easily. Assembled Alphas is my favorite though.
>>48007658
The horse, duh.
So this is the last intro pack cycle, right? Let's take a moment to reminisce about this glorious product line nobody gave a fuck aboutexcept for that time one had P&K.
>>48007639
While Kamigawa was on standard the enviroment was slower so you could do Ire right? It seems like it would suffer from the same problems Chimera had on THS/KTK.
>>48007631
Possibly, but they might've just wanted to double down on the merging flavor without risking massive backlash.
>>48007302
>I slap blood moon down
>Ok, I take mana in response. After resolve I cast abrupt decay
>lolnope
>I absolutely need to kill that particular piece this turn
>lolnope
>>48007666
But he's already on a horse
>>48007664
Eternal formats exist. One mana deal 6? One mana deal 8? It would be the most pushed burn spell of all time. People currently run far worse burn.
>>48007361
>>48007372
Rider, meet Horse!
Horse, meet Rider!
>>48007667
I can reminisce about how much fun I had with my slightly modified Intro Pack. Back when I started.
>>48007693
The max damage it would deal is 5, there's a similar cycle that counts the opponents graveyard and sees zero play.
>>48007646
>new flame burst only hits creatures
Well fuck me sideways and send me home
It's shit
>>48007673
it was a more control focused meta, but ww samurai kept you on your toes. I think the biggest boon was that ire wasn't a creature without haste.
>>48005786
Jesus that's fucking busted in a brains tides deck and I can use it to flip westvale abbey
>>48007703
>He started playing with intro packs, not duel decks or a friend's tier deck
Oh shit I'm sorry.
>>48005786
Path of secrets.
>>48007667
P&K?
>>48007715
I don't keep up with standard, did someone made Brain in a Jar AND Rise from the Tides work??
>>48007707
>there is a similiar cycle in which the red one was completely busted
Really you do not understand how having a card that goes 2,3,4,5 damage to everything you want would be busted nearly everywhere?
>>48007676
By the time you have enough mana to drop Blood Moon in UR they'll have figured your plan and at least fetched enough basics to Decay it again.
>>48007707
controlling your own graveyard and the spells you cast/discard in red is far easier than doing so for your opponents. This card is far less interactive which is exactly what burn wants. Your opponent can play around not fueling the other spell by dumping stuff in their graveyard. They can't as easily by a wide margin play around what you dump in yours.
don't even try to argue that it isn't
>>48005797
>The Happy Friends in Innistrad!
Kill me please...
DELETE PLAINSWALKERS!
>>48007707
Kindle isn't 1 mana. Anyway, stuff like
Pyromancer's Ascension in Modern would mean a Kindle in Modern would be way better than you would think.
>>48007727
Pia and Kiran Nalaar.
>>48007730
If it's so busted why does it see 0 eternal play then?
>>48006094
I think they are aware that the mechanic is very parasitic, as you are forced to play two cards that synergize with it other and with not much else. At least, that's what I read from the fact that Eldritch Moon has only 3 pairs of meld cards.
So I could imagine they will use it as a super gimmicky thing once in a while
>>48007730
>kindle and flame burst are both completely busted
ha!
>>48007667
>So this is the last intro pack cycle, right?
Wait, what?
>>48007742
because this card exponentially becomes better based on what you do rather than what your opponents do
things you have control of > things you don't have control of
>>48006644
Thats the way it SHOULD be though. I hate how the story always focuses on the same few marry sues. It would be so much better if they dropped the standard cast and made it so the same planes walker outside of BBG's can only show up in no more than one set in 3 years.
>>48005825
This. The flavour on this whole Delver of Secrets to Final Iteration is just fucking great.
>>48007643
Soul sisters don't really run proclamations.
You're never cutting Eos either, it just gives too much value.
I don't see Elspeths being played that much, its either a toss up between 1 or 2 Elspeths or Solemn visitor Sorins.
You're most definitely cutting Hawks and/or aurok champions for more early game aggro. Siding those back in against decks much faster then it.
>>48007720
I know people say this, but I was actually super intimidated by MtG and thought it was for the most rules lawyering asshole grognards.
Playing a deck that ran vanilla 3/2s for 3 was probably what allowed me to be willing to try this game. I STILL managed to fuck up the rules.
>>48007667
do theme decks count too? because jitte was in one of those.
>>48007389
>>48007402
So basically this is a 3 mana 4/5 in a dedicated deck, is that any good?
>>48007741
>Pyromancer's Ascension
From that point of view, yeah it justifies burning only critters.
>>48007764
They're going to stop printing intro packs in favor of a planeswalker-masturbation kit.
>>48007766
>because this card exponentially becomes better based on what you do rather than what your opponents do
That makes 0 sense here, kindle scales exactly the same as this new card if you ignore what your opponent is doing.
>>48007764
Intro packs are cycling out, from now on we just get two planeswalker focused intro decks for newbies. Comes with a unique but overcosted planeswalker and a few new cards designed to fetch said planeswalker.
>>48007762
>>48007730
>>48007709
Okay, I fucked up. I didn't read the card right and assumed it actually multiplied the damage. It is simply a 1 mana kindle that can't hit players.
Eh. I still think printing a better kindle would be bad for modern.
>>48007780
Eh? It isn't great. You'll need a careful balance of Eldrazi and fishers.
>>48007775
I wasn't counting champions in my 3 sisters since I use martyr of sands, but I guess I understand where you're coming from. Still just unsure of a 4/4 being a "threat" in modern without a hard evasion ability.
>>48007805
>careful balance
You just need any colorless creature card, it doesn't even have to be milled plus it fuels delirium.
>>48007764
Well it is what is sounds like, from Poo in the Loo and onwards there will be no more Intro Packs. Planeswalker decks will take their place which will contain 1 mythic walker with high cmc that is NOT in the set the planeswalker deck will be from along with some spells/creatures that interact with said planeswalker like a creature reading "Weeb get's +1/+1 and haste if you control a planeswalker named Chandra" and every planeswalker deck will feature a spell that will tutor for the walker along with having an extra effect.
>>48007764
>>48007783
>>48007793
Wait, source? Link? This is awful news. I actually liked intro packs. They were simple and clean and didn't confuse people.
Planeswalkers are literally the most confusing card type inherently. There are a million casuals who have no idea how they work. Why would you make them use those first?
>>48007805
you can also just tun artifact creatures, he'll probably be better in a delirium deck than straight eldrazi.
>>48007060
So?
>>48007822
Poo in the Loo?
>>48007783
>no more intro packs
>no more event decks
>no more duel decks or clash packs
>all in favour of more fucking planeswalker wank
Truly we are living in the worst of all possible worlds.
>>48007822
This is the worst news I've heard all day. Making a "fake deck" that can't be played in any real format is retarded. It segregates new players from all other players.
Though, uh... I'm excited for the Chandra one. Probably legal in EDH.
>>48007824
>Planeswalkers are literally the most confusing card type inherently. There are a million casuals who have no idea how they work. Why would you make them use those first?
So they git gud rather than having their hands held with some shitty 4/4 for 4RR with a shit ability?
Everyone loves planeswalkers too, meaning they're less likely to rot on shelves.
>>48007844
>>>/new/
>>48007824
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/ramp-approval-2016-05-16
>>48007844
It's a /int/ meme
He means Kaladesh
>>48007847
Cards from PW decks are standard legal without having to be directly in the set.
>>48007858
>meme
It's a very real thing, just search on Google.
>>48007845
Since we've returned to Innistrad, this is the horror we needed.
>>48007727
It was a meme deck that actually was doing fairly well until people hopped on a new blue prison meme.
I changed it up from a mono u deck into a bu deck for removal and board wipes, consistently winning at my lgs.
>>48007865
Calling everything related to India 'poo in the loo' or 'desginated' is definitely a meme.
>>48007809
Think of it this way, it has lifelink so every time it swings and hits something, it will make pridemate bigger or gets you closer to proc serra ascendant if for whatever reason you didn't get martyr of the sands or they pyroclasm away your sisters.
And really you want the opponent to bolt/path a 4/4 then a pridemate or serra ascendant, both of which are far more valuable to you.
>>48007844
Indians in India poo right in the streets.
its so bad over there there are commercials telling them not to do it.
>>48007847
they are all standard legal idiot.
>>48007881
What else do they have then? At least they're finally famous for something.
>>48007822
Well, I hope wizards dont make one of those unique cards imbalanced or we will see stores selling the goddam planeswalker product over MSRP price.
>>48007850
Well, I guess from a marketing perspective, if you get people to buy shit because it features a cool super hero, it is less likely to turn people away for looking like a complicated mess designed for autists.
>>48007854
Thanks.
>>48007862
Even the cards that reference the fake card by name? Why not just make the fake card legal?
>>48007720
Hey fuck you man, I still use the Doomgape I got from this in my Meren deck.
>>48007524
>Take Inventory, Galvanic Bombardment
>not good
Yes, yes, I know those aren't going to see play in Vintage.
>>48007361
Based Wotc actually made the rapehorse card.
>>48007883
Fair but at that point if I'm going to cut Hawks in a mone white list, personally I'm gonna edge more toward brave the elements before trying out rider.
Still good points. Might have to try it out regardless.
>>48007903
Coldsnap for me.
AK
>>48007903
That's a theme deck, not an intro pack.
>>48007904
>>48007918
read the thread
>>48007889
Oh. Well, fuck me. I'm an idiot.
I guess these are what is replacing core sets, kind of. All those Gideon's Avenger and shit get stuffed in here.
>>48007898
>Why not just make the fake card legal?
Nigga can you even fucking read, every card in the PW deck is standard legal, the PW caring spells/creatures and the PW itself.
>>48006346
>Do you rike it?
god damnit tony
>>48007916
I fucking loved "Expert" theme decks. I wish they did more of those. This one felt particularly good, I was on the brink of tears when I finally remade it into a pauper deck and won my fnm with it.
My first actual deck was pre-made white samurai theme deck.
>>48007903
I guess I'll post my intro deck. I found out I was a green fag almost immediately after playing it.
Lay down the memes, now.
>>48007922
Aren't they basically the exact same thing?
>>48007924
I fucked up.
>>48007904
>>48007918
Oh my god its the alpha cycle.
>>48007931
My bad! I get it now.
>>48007927
I honestly don't hate it. I sort of liked the coresets PW cards. Chandra's Spitfire is still one of my favorite designs because it works with all kinds of direct damage, artifacts, enchantments, planeswalkers...
>>48007259
Came to say this
>>48006722
>Why do you want it?
Because what was the point of coming up with that mechanic if they're not gonna use it anymore?
Honestly I don't really care, but I understand why some people would think it's stupid?
>>48007903
Hypersonic Dragon, Thoughtflare, Guttersnipe and Electromancer are still some of my fav cards ever and made me the Izzet player I am.
>>48007950
I fucking wish, theme decks had value in them like Jitte and Stoneforge while Intro Packs were abusmal abortions nobody gave a rat's ass about.
>>48006971
2U for a 3/2 flyer would've been great.
>>48007985
Clash packs were like theme decks on crack, shame they scrapped them.
>>48007845
>3 types of shit nobody wanted being replaced with only 1 thing nobody wants
THE FUCKING HORROR
>>48007854
This is a remarkably transparent article. They list fucking every little thought process and design decision here. Weird. It is like why have the set skeleton.
>>48007980
>what was the point of coming up with that mechanic if they're not gonna use it anymore?
how fucking retarded are you, seriously? you don't seem to be bitching about the lack of bestow, or dash, or arcane, or goddamn phasing you fucking mongoloid.
>>48007916
>I bought the exact same pack when I started playing magic
Greetings fellow citizen of african descent!
>>48007998
At least they went out with a bang, Health+CoCo+Rhino? That was a a good one even if the actual last one (the Geist one) was more meh,
>>48007060
the only cards that your kind think are playable these days cost 1-2 mana or cost 3-4 but win the game
not every card has to be eternal/modern playable bro
>>48007903
Oh man, I had the same one. Creakwood Liege remains one of my favourite cards to this day
>>48007922
They serve exactly the same purpose, though.
>>48007980
It isn't an evergreen mechanic. It was a small tiny mechanic for boosting RB Eldrazi in limited. You aren't mad that Fateful Hour didn't come back. Or Soulbond? Or any random mechanic that was designed without constructed in mind because it is narrow and not all that fun?
>>48007984
Guttersnipe is so awesome in EDH.
>>48007897
I think the last time they fucked up, was in Kamigawa with Jitte.
If they fuck up, it will be a complete dissaster, because fucking card investors will buy as many products as they can and stores will increase the price of it.
>>48008008
I would like to see a return to phasing
>>48008027
He is too awesome. I am yet to see a day where he lives for longer than a turn after he is cast.
>>48008035
because you're a bad man.
>>48007991
It would've been very pushed. Look at these. Most of them are commons, but most of them don't have two upsides the way Researcher does.
http://magiccards.info/query?q=cmc%3D4+c%21u+o%3Aflying+pow%3D3+tou%3D2&v=card&s=cname
Hell, a 3/1 flyer for three with a drawback is usually limited playable.
>>48008032
>>I think the last time they fucked up, was in Kamigawa with Jitte.
It was actually in Zendikar with Stoneforge, when they banned her in standard they even made a special rule that you are allowed to play her in standard but only if you use the theme deck as is, with no changes.
>>48008027
Hell yeah, my first EDH deck was a Melek made from cards of my casual standard deck.
>>48007854
>The name "Fat Pack" has always been a bit nondescript, so we're changing them to "[set name] Bundle." So with the fall set, we'll be creating the Kaladesh Bundle. It will have an MSRP of $42.99.
>those bundle contents
What am I missing here? Looks like it only has one Booster pack more and costs 20 bucks more than a fat pack did.
>>48007372
H O R S A R O N I
>>48008044
If my creatures are done attacking I dont want you interacting with them :^)
>>48008058
that was in the event deck, not the theme/intro pack.
>>48008072
Fatpacks cost 30, I thought.
>>48008078
wtf does that have to do with phasing? phasing happens on your untap step, before anything even thinks about attacking.
>>48007413
Where have I heard that flavortext before?
>>48008078
That's not generally how phasing works.
Besides sliding gets you those sexy ETB triggers twice.
>>48007667
Nigga, Intro packs have been solid before.NPH had Blade Splicer and DKA had Stromkirk Noble and Champion of the Parish (which were both big standard cards at the time).
>>48008048
Imagine a limited play with a turn 3 Aberrant Researcher that flips on turn 4. That's probably what they wanted to avoid.
>>48005786
Damn. 11/10 flavor, and actually seems pretty good.
>>48008097
>>48008102
He's referring to one of the only decent phasing cards.
>>48008098
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZZnKmzkU04
Maybe from here
>>48008091
Hm, I think you are right. I thought they were 25, but that would be € I think. So 30$ seems possible. Still, one booster pack more for ~10$. That's ridiculous. Unless I miss something.
>>48008118
Thanks for knowing what I was talking about anon youre a gem.
>>48008008
>>48008026
Bestow was linked to Theros' gods, dash to Mardu/Kolaghan, arcane to Kamigawa's spirits, Fateful Hour to the return of Avacyn, and Devoid is linked to Eldrazis.
We haven't had a return to Theros, Tarkir or Kamigawa and Avacyn isn't gonna be freed a second time. But we're getting a new Eldrazi set, so it would have made sense if Devoid had been used in it.
And I'm not mad at all, I'm not even >>48006633. I'm just saying I can see why some people might think not using devoid in an Eldrazi set post-BfZ is dumb.
>>48008118
>people like the cards that phase things out but pretend the actual ability "phasing" isn't shit
sounds about right. I love me some dream fighter and vodallian illusionist, but fuck ever seeing them printed again.
>>48008072
>>48008120
Fat packs seem to be going for $39.99 for SOI on average, I think they've been that way since before origins.
>>48008135
devoid only existed to allow color balance while maintaining the eldrazi=colorless theme. soi has emerge with colored costs on colorless creatures, as well as transform to turn colored cards into colorless creatures so devoid is extraneous.
>>48008058
wait, did they really made an special rule for Stoneforge? where can I find info about it?
>>48008146
You mean you would prefer if your ability was only at half its potential?
>>48008126
I know way too many cards. People know I love jank and always tell me about some obscure stupid interaction and start describing the card rather than telling me the name, which isn't helpful. Of course, sometimes they tell me the wrong name and that's even worse.
Helps me with Mental Magic. Otherwise, is just completely useless.
>>48008178
I know too many cards because i used to use the gatherer at work to make commander decks.
>>48008118
Man, I miss the look of the old blue cards. Looked like a pen broke apart in a swimming pool, which was perfect.
>>48008168
can't find the original ban announcement but this article has details re: event deck
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/standard-bannings-explained-2011-06-20-0
>>48008163
Damn, MTG seems to be much more expensive in the states.
But anyways I was talking about the MSRP of the two products. And I don't think the MSRP of fat packs is that high.
Oh no. You are right. The MSRP of SOI fat packs is indeed 39.99
http://wpn.wizards.com/en/products/shadows-over-innistrad
>>48008206
Exactly. Literally looked at every red or colorless card that had the words "deal damage" last week on magiccards.info. Every single one.
>>48008234
Not really, I always import my cards from the states because buying singles in bongland is ridiculous.
>about to order 200 bucks worth of cards
>decide that I am too sleepy and I might as well do it tomorrow
>tfw next morning brexit happens and pound tanks like Paulus at Stalingrad
>>48007822
Source on that?
It sounds really retarded.
>>48008306
offtopic, should I buy pounds now or its too risky?
>>48008408
It will stabilise eventually, hopefully sooner than later. I am pretty sure overall the value will be lower than pre-vote but nothing can be done about it. I'd say wait it out a bit because we haven't even seen the worst fallout after that stupid vote yet - so far it's just panic and loss of confidence.
>>48008234
>>48008306
I used to buy cards from Spain and UK in original shadow of innistrad.
I remember my set of spanish Cavern of Souls/Caverna de las animas by that time costed me around 35$.
Then the store increased the shipping cost and I told them to fuck off.
>>48005911
>Read in a nasely Jew voice
I read it in Rodney Dangerfield's voice, and it still wasn't funny.
>>48008408
Financial Analyst here. I would wait a bit more, there's a lot of uncertainty right now, but most analysis leans towards the pound (and Euro) dipping slightly lower before a recovery happens.
when are they going to spoil liliana dammit
that's going to decide whether I buy a box or not
>>48007554
Pauper Bomb?
>>48008463
Welp, I guess I lost my chance to get cheap cards.
>>48008468
Depends. Euro's gonna drop like a rock in water if France, Denmark, and some of the Eastern Bloc countries decide to pull out
The movements are already gaining traction after Brexit, especially with the murmurs of the EU head officials trying to consolidate all the nations under one banner
>>48008506
>The movements are already gaining traction
After the aftermath of Brexit? Unlikely. Sure, marginals and eurosceptics continue to spout their shit but hopefully people saw how badly it can backfire even before something substantial happens. I dont think any other country will quit the EU. Also, most of european marginals are being financed by russia and their economy will suffer as well, seeing how brexit affected - and will continue to affect - crude oil.
>>48008481
next week's access magic is apparently all about her, so probably then.
>>48008408
You should know that money will be stuck for a long time till you can get profit from it.
>>48008501
Used to do the same buying italin and french cards. It was pretty cheap 3-4 years ago, but the shipping and cards prices started to increase it was not worthy anymore.
Some people on my LGS are buying non-fake chinesse cards cause they are a lil cheaper, but honestly the quality of the card looks pretty inferior when comparing with a english printed card.
>>48008481
>>48008578
given this is spoiler week, she has to be revealed sometime this week. Friday will be full spoilers like every other preview week.
>>48008591
Speaking of China, how big is MtG there? I might move to China in Autumn - my wife is Chinese and I have good prospects of a job in Shanghai. I would like to continue playing, even though it will take months before my Chinese is on a level that I can read magic cards.
>>48008555
>marginals and eurosceptics continue to spout their shit but hopefully people saw how badly it can backfire even before something substantial happens
They're gonna use it as an argument ("look, EU is tyrannical and doesn't want anyone to escape it's grip!" or something along those lines).
>>48008622
I thought we always had two spoiler weeks.
>>48008622
two weeks of spoilers then one week after the full spoiler's out, then prerelease.
>>48008447
>>48008468
>>48008555
>>48008591
Damn guys, I wish I could have gone to college, but at that time I was too poor and had to work my ass off so I didnt have time to study.
I ended working as a carpenteer and after some years of earning money, I finally had my own carpentry. I even have some clients who are boardgame players (thats how i ended palying magic).
>>48008555
What has backfired? I am only aware, that the Pound lost value. And honestly, I think most people, even the out voters, expected that.
>>48008623
Shanghai is a very interesting city. Was there for two weeks during school. I also seriously considered moving there after the two weeks.
I wish you a good time there fampai.
Don't know shit about it's MtG community though
>>48007389
>not a 2/2
disappointing
>>48008591
Some guys at my LGS buy non-fake chinesse cards. Its pretty annoying for new and youngs players since they cant read chink language and have to look for the ruling in the internet or ask our TO.
> tfw the fuckers are playing those meme brain/prison decks
I guess thats why they have their cards in other language.
>>48008689
Man you dont have to go to college to know the situation in europe. Its all common sense and a lil knowledge about economics.
Of couse experts in the subject will be more accurate predicting stuff..
>>48008690
If only pound was the only thing. FTSEs dropped, share prices of most big british players dropped, share prices of a lot of european entities tanked, a lot of restructuring and movement of staff has already been announced e.g. by Goldman sachs. I know some people from the city and intern there myself and for the fourth day it feels like some war has just begun.
>>48008639
True. But the thing is, at least as I see it, that their message isn't that strong and will now be even weaker. The reason brexit is a thing is because Remain campaign was the most incompetent, condescending and uninspired shit in modern democratic history - and people are incapable of making a reasoned decision unless someone likeable on the telly reassures them of its value.
Hell, I love and believe in democracy. But not in direct democracy, which is a massive mistake. It's not BC anymore.
>>48008783
>Hell, I love and believe in democracy.
Nah, you believe in aristocracy/oligarchy. Which is fine (I guess), but I wish people would stop distorting democracy as a word and make it forever tainted with what it is not.
>>48007967
U fucken wot
>>48008847
No offence, but you seem to be using words the meaning of which escaped you. Direct democracy is not the only type of democracy. Oligarchy implies lack of mechanisms of public control and unclear succession.
Yes, I do believe that people in power should be competent have a certain professional background. I also believe that these people must be elected by the people and accountable to them, as it works in the current system. In fact, the very fact that something like Brexit happened is thanks to these principles - where decisions of the elected rulers are overruled by the people who elected them.
Literally nothing in the above paragraph can be described as oligarchy and let alone aristocracy.
>>48008753
Kek
>>48008690
The UK market lost hundreds of billions. The Australian share market lost 70 billion within 24 hours of the Leave vote.
>>48007667
Hey, alt art is my jam.
fuck off to /pol you twats, this is a thread for talking about MtG spoilers
>>48008937
What good is alt art when it's on mostly unplayable cards?
>>48008942
Then why don't you talk about MtG spoilers instead of whining you twit? Also
>economics
>/pol/
>how to sport a libtard.jpeg
>>48008917
>Oligarchy implies lack of mechanisms of public control and unclear succession.
Pretty accurate description of the European Commission, which is answerable to no-one and is appointed via a secret system with no public oversight.
>>48008935
UK markets dropped by around 3.5%.... meanwhile, global markets fell by closer to 10%. These figures sound bad, but the markets were actually lower than this back in February of this year, so it's hardly the "OMG GLOBAL MELTDOWN" the alarmists would have you believe.
>>48008942
This thread is past the bump limit anyway, go gas yourself.
>>48008917
Oh, most reprensentative democracies are certainly that, on paper. When you include the various networks of the rich and powerful, lobbies and all the weight they can and do bear to be sure those sweet mechanisms you talked about are stifled, unclear, underbudgeted or corrupted from within, that nifty notion of representation and (snickers will be had) accountability is just shot to smithereens.
>In fact, the very fact that something like Brexit happened is thanks to these principles - where decisions of the elected rulers are overruled by the people who elected them.
By the way, the referendum isn't binding. In my country, we had a (binding) referendum about the treaty of Lisbon which was overruled by our democratically elected and so thoroughly accountable elites. Oh, not so boldly as saying "Naaah", but piecemealed and introduced in various laws and agreements that taken as a whole made it the exact fucking same thing.
Representative "democracy" is like communism or laissez-faire capitalism: it needs perfect human beings to actually work as described.
>tfw nobody knows the people who introduced universal suffrage in France did that exactly because it only gave the illusion of choice to the people
>>48008997
In my original post, at no point was I saying anything about the EU as an institution, I was merely discussing elections. Don't put words in my mouth fampai.
Also, people usually assume that if I support Remain I must be a hardcore EU fanboy, which is something that should be expected I suppose. I am not, however. I think that EU is a deeply flawed system and in its current state it has outlived itself. But the benefits of being a EU member vastly outweigh the costs even in its current sorry state - especially in terms of opportunities available to youth within the system.
I hope brexit was a big wake up call for the EU, because no matter how optimistic I am about no countries leaving it in the near future, at this rate it will collapse eventually unless it reforms itself substantially.
>>48009067
>especially in terms of opportunities available to youth within the system.
You are a true useful idiot. You think European youth have any future, when EU elites keep flooding the continent with immigrants?
>>48006606
I want him to become a planeswalker.
Just need some Eldritch living weapon now and we're good to go
>>48009215
That's a though, if Artifact Creature Melds wouldn't work for NP, then maybe you could do Living Weapon Melds instead?
>>48008591
I've heard Spanish cards are kind of cheap to get. How accurate is this? I overheard some guys (toxic redneck jerks who treat newbies and kids like shit) that they were buying spanish cards at a pretty low price but immediately told me to fuck off after asking them politely.
>>48009322
They aren't.
>>48009322
Cards in some languages, especially older sets, tend to be slightly cheaper to their english counterparts, but not by much. If you don't care about being able to read your damn cards you might as well buy chinese ones on ebay for cheaper. I personally only buy cards in english orportuguese.
Also, what they might be referring are Italian cards, which had larger than usual prints back in the day. Legends and a few other sets are easier to find in Italian and end up being cheaper.
Are the spoilers done for the day?
>>48009416
For once being Italian has advantages, I noticed prices for some stuff, not just signles whole products is also chepear than the english counterparts.
>>48007459
>TREEFOLK
>TREE
>FOLK
FOLK TREE
>>48007723
>Build a deck with only those cards as creartures
>>48009532
Yeah, I too wanna do that. Will be nothing near competitive, but I like flavourful decks from time to time
>>48007473
I'm surprised there's not more comments on this guy. He seems constructed playable to me in some kind of flyers/spirits deck.
As always, there is limited and standard shit instead of constructed playable cards. fuck wizards
>>48010439
>Modernbabbies
>>48010439
>strong cards come out
Power creep, i just built my deck i don't want to buy more shit
>shit cards come out
Fucking useless set wizard go die in a fire
>>48010508
Wizards hasn't printed modern or legacy playable cards in a long time though. They know it doesn't make them money so why would they cater to it?
>>48010530
Ah yes, because there are no modern played eldrazi cards right?
And coco doesn't exist?
And baby Jace? Completely unplayable.
>>48010530
Nahiri is played in Modern. Christ, she even brought back a whole deck by herself to the forefront! There's also Painful Truths, which sees play in Legacy.
Oh, and you know, all those cards that broke Modern and Legacy this year and the last and led to various bans.
>>48010530
Funny you said that just after wotc released Eternal Masters
And there are a few new cards from recent sets that see modern play (Newlamog, Coco, every single eldrazi before the eye of ugin ban...)
>>48010530
What is legacy eldrazi stompy?
You clearly don't play the format, stop talking.
>>48010784
>>48010606
>>48010599
>>48010593
unintentional collateral damage. You're not the focus of magic anymore and never will be ever again. Just accept your format is dead and left picking at the scraps of whatever Wizards makes for standard.
>>48010817
Wow, where did those goalposts go?
>>48010817
Someone's booty-blasted at being a dumbass. Maybe next time, think before you speak
Also
>implying I want Wizards screwing with eternal formats
You standard babbies can keep giving Wizards cash every year, I'll play my actually fun formats.
>>48010817
Modern is huge, you can't expect more than a couple of cards from each set to make a splash or else the whole format would implode.
Have to look that up real fast
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