Anything /tg/ related worth getting lads?
Pic unrelated
>>47955585
Battlefleet Gothic: Armada is 13.20 USD cheaper, so you'd pay 26.79 USD + tax instead of 39.99 USD.
>>47955585
I got "remember me", for some shadowrun inspiration.
It's not incredible, but it's not the worst.
The Secret World.
>>47955585
Crusader Kings 2.
FOOKEN DO IT!
>>47955585
Basically all of the JRPGs are like 50% off or more; I grabbed Ys Chronicles and Legends of Heroes, along with E.Y.E out of morbid curiosity.
>Steam sale
>I am a cheap bastard when it comes to games
>TFW everything I want is above my >$20 price limit even after up to 40% discounts
>Everything that I would want that's that far discounted is already in my library
>Profound mehness about the sale
>TFW I suddenly get why people say PC gamers are entitled sods.
>>47955585
Pillars of Eternity
>>47957250
Yeah, this sale is really really lame.
and it's not because I already have too many things in my library either, I got a two hundred items long wishlist.
most of the discounts are -40% and -66%, even older games.
I remember getting fairly recent and prime games like LA Noir and Shadow Warrior for 2-3$, and now they aren't close to that price range.
>>47957307
Fucking Russians
>>47957307
>>47957250
"Only half price? Those money-grubbing bastards!"
Both Knights of Pen & Paper games are like $5. Simple, but enjoyable; if you're down for a self referential farce.
>>47957204
My legs are okay.
Avernus: Escape from the pit
Y/N?
>>47955585
i blew 700 hours in skyrim after i installed deadly impact, revenge of the enemies and some stealth difficulty increasing mod. stay away from crafting and the game is peachy
>>47957335
It's more like; "Half price? Why when last year it was quarter price? The game didn't expand on it's own since then, did it?"
I've picked up Dragons Dogma. RPG wise it seems alright, it has levels, classes and skills you can buy that are purely for combat. World-building is rather weak, at least as far as I'm up to but the gameplay is really scool. It feels like a game where their means didn't quite live up to the dream. That said, a lot of fun to play, no character building as far as I can see (dialogue choices etc), but it's got good combat. I climbed up a Hydras neck and cut its head off while my wizard follower ran around shouting "IT'S TOO SCALY! AAAA".
7/10.
>>47957453
My man, your perspective has been skewed by past generosities. Quarter price is an insane deal, and should not be expected.
>>47957474
Worldbuilding may come off as weak, but as you play, you realize a lot of gameplay things have legitimate in-universe justifications that make perfect sense.
Once you start getting the higher abilities, it's like Greyhawk with Tome of Battle classes.
>>47957483
I would agree, if I haven't seen, or even lived with it on earlier sales.
I would also agree if I haven't seen "9/10th off" deals on decent merchandise.
I might be spoiled a bit, but don't tell me that I should be satisfied with less what was given to everyone else on earlier occasions.
>>47957474
Yeah Dragon's Dogma was really revolutionary on combat. Not really an RPG, it's more like a Fantasy Combat game
>>47957533
You're permitted to be dissatisfied; it's a subjective reaction. You're not permitted to call half-off a bad deal on product that's often sold at lower standard prices than other dealers to begin with.
>>47957474
Dragon's Dogma actually has an amazing story. It's just really not that obvious on the first play through. Once you've played through it the first time then you the second time you can actually follow it
>>47957517
That could well be the case, I've realised that the game isn't going to tell me anything when I can find it out myself. I've just reached the capital city after escorting the caravan, and all I know so far is "goblins hate fire!" and that on the road I'm as likely to meet wayfarers and merchants as I am bandits.
>>47957546
Yeah, I may have used the wrong word there.
>>47957554
In the sense that you realise a lot of things that happen once you have to context of the games ending? Just curious.
>>47957400
Knights of Pen and Paper ran like shit on my machine. It's one of those games that does nothing as fast as its can and eats all the CPU it can find to render idle animations.
I was much happier with it once I used Battle Encoder Shirase to throttle it down to half CPU, simultaneously with CheatEngine's speedhack to make it run twice as fast.
>>47957417
N. It's remade in meh engine. Avernum the original remake trilogy is better, IMO.
>>47957599
idk if you played Dark Souls, but like Dark Souls you don't really catch-on to the whole story until the second play through.
>>47957599
The game's true ending and what happens on Booty-Blasted Isle and their implications fill in a lot of holes and give content to the rest of the game's events, yeah.
>>47957707
>Booty-Blasted Isle
kek
That's a good name for it.
But yeah Dragon's Dogma is friggen fantastic, I'd implore everyone who hasn't played it yet to buy it on this sale.
>>47957553
I apologize for the indifference in opinion, but I believe I am indeed permitted to call it a bad deal.
I am viewing purchases from the experience of several early instances. If the discount had higher percentage for several years than it has now, then it's an objectively worse deal
You might argue that "worse" is not necessarily "bad", and indeed you would be correct, but here comes the subjective part;
I am viewing the sales from my point of view. I looked carefully what I couldn't buy, and how much should I save up to buy them on the next sale.
So when I have the money, but can't buy the product when next sale rolls around, then I can say "It's a bad deal". For me that is.
For others, with other amount of disposable income, what they might say differs wildly.
Ranting over.
>>47957802
Ok you win it's over.
>>47957830
I am still gonna spend that damn money!
and I am going to like it!
>>47955585
Hand of Fate is pretty /tg/.
Build a deck of equipment and encounters and the dealer makes an adventure out of it. You progress through the adventure, managing your cash, food, and equipment to hopefully make it to the final boss.
There's some admittedly clunky Arkham-style combat thrown in for whenever you encounter monsters but I'm finding that the atmosphere and the rest of the gameplay makes up for it.
>>47957864
Yeah they got the narration part very well.
Although I felt like the ending was very abrupt
Still sequel is in the making so can't complain
Shadowrun Returns: Dragonfall and Hong Kong. Can recommend both, especially Dragonfall.
>>47957898
I've only just beat the Jack of Scales.
How's the Endless mode? That looks like where the meat of the game is going to be once I get most/all of the cards.
I wish I had money for Witcher III and Hearts of Stone. Damn Super Bunnyhop for being so eloquent and persuasive.
>>47958038
I liked it. Some cards have like 6-7 "sequels" to them, you know what you have to unlock with tokens, making it a lot of extra.
If you are into endless mode, then i suggest to consider the only DLC the game has. It gives you different characters to play with, each with their own unlockable cards.
Like it has my fav the Lion Knight; starts with low hp, but gains 2 max health for every opponent defeated. You unlock his cards by growing in power enough before you step on them.
or that other one that consumes equipment instead of food.
I'd say GOG is more geared towards /tg/ type interests
Fantasy Grounds is on sale. Anybody have any experience or feelings towards it?
>>47958352
>mostly positive/mixed
I'd stay wary.
>>47958352
Honestly just use roll20. It's basically the same service for free
>>47958139
>Like it has my fav the Lion Knight; starts with low hp, but gains 2 max health for every opponent defeated.
I actually bought the DLC along with the base game since the whole thing was only ~$12.
I agree with you on the Lion fate being good. Even on the lower levels just having the ability to regain six health in an encounter by playing smart felt like a massive advantage. I'll probably branch out and try the others once I'm done with story mode. I haven't found any of his fate cards yet, though. Story mode may not have enough encounters early on to trigger them.
>>47957474
Honestly m8 you do not even know yet. Dragon's Dogma probably has the most satisfying level/class progression of any game I've ever played.
I just think of frantically running (as a mage) from my first ogre while spamming the 'help!' command for me followers, or getting absolutely fucking destroyed by my first drake fight as a fighter. And then late game, JFC, just tearing through this shit with abilities that feel amazing and impactful to use while my team is just 'we got this'. It's great. It deserves a sequel it will never have.
>>47957204
>along with E.Y.E out of morbid curiosity.
Join the /tg/ group, get some multi going.
Legend of Grimrock
Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen
Dominions 4
Wizardry 8
Dawn of War I plus expansions.
>>47957437
Nah. I'm okay.
>>47957474
>World building is rather weak
Finish the game.
>>47957707
That final boss monologue in the island though, man.
That fucking monologue.
I've replayed the game just to listen to that shit.
Anyways, I have the urge to go play it again now and build myself a Mystic Knight.
Hands down the best defensive class I've seen in an RPG, in terms of gameplay. The class just feels so fucking interesting to do.
Sunless Sea
Rainbow 6 Siege is pretty cool.
Not really /tg/ related though
>>47958576Repent the folly of ascribing meaning to the void.
>>47957474
90% of Dragon's Dogma and worldbuilding is in the post game after you've become a semi immortal godkin. It's like the perfect 'DnD'esque vidya
>>47958576
Whoever wrote and whoever voice acted for Grigori didn't get payed enough
>the ramblings of an upstart zealot make for tiring oratory
At that scene the time had come and so had I
>>47958594
Does this game get more fun once you've explored everything? I got the battle class ship and started hunted the giant eels before I lost interest since it just felt like grinding at that point to advance the plot
>>47958813
Yea, both of them were great.What is your purpose here, Arisen?
Has anyone played Avadon? Is it worth playing?
>>47958352
I use it and, personally, I find it easier to use and get my group to use than roll20, but with the pricetag it's very hard to recommend. I feel like, if you don't already have physical copies of any of the books, it does work out to be cheaper than buying those, especially if you can't get together physically to share a single set of physical rulebooks, but again, you can always just pirate the books and use roll20, spending nothing.
I'm grabbing Morrowind and will be playing it with a shit ton of mods because I didn't own an Xbox back when it was new and "groundbreaking". I like Skyrim, so I imagine with mods it'll be similar.
>>47958576
Is Mystic Knight any good? I'm currently level 15 or so and really enjoying all my Fighting man abilities, do they getand more weeblike? I wanna do big flips and shit, launching people into the air is cool for now though.
>>47959387
All vocations are great, except Mage.
>>47959402
Mage, at least from my pawns practises, just seems to be weapon buffs and fireballs. So I'm glad I'm not missing out anythign there.
>>47959387
Mystic Knight is the most powerful class in the game.
>>47959417
Sorcerer is more-or-less just a straight upgrade to Mage as a PC class (it has a few more support options, but they work better on a Pawn). Mystic Knight is extremely strong, but you'll need to plan out your levels to get the most out of it. There really isn't a bad vocation though.
>>47959440
That's a weird way to spell Ranger.
>>47959387
Mystic Knight is the most flexible class, after Assassin. They've got good physical and magical abilities, and a lot of of their skills are very good in different situations.
There's a variety of ways of playing them.
1. Shield based - You're using your shield enhancements to build charges with perfect blocks, then hitting them hardcore with the results. Usually a physical build. The most reflex dependent, because you need to consistently get the perfect blocks off to survive in melee and do your damage.
2. Trap Knight - Using your cannons and your sigils to fucking destroy shit. Magic build, and requires setup. But hoo boy, you set it up right and they fucking ruin shit. I think only Mystic Archer has a faster Death kill rate, but Mystic Archer kills everything but one of the super bosses in fucking stupid amounts of time.
3. Mage Knight - The pure magic build, you're using cannons at range to clean rooms out, then going for your big spells when you knock a big enemy over. Arguably the weakest of the three builds, but man, getting one of those big spells off and chunking a huge amount of a bosses HP is always fun to see.
>>47959450
That's a weird way of spelling Mystic Archer
>>47959507
Interesting. I'm eagerly awaiting a two handed weapon of some sort to fall into my hands, and then hopefully I can equip 6 weapon skills on it and really have fun.
>>47959616
>two-hander
>6 skills
>>47959666
awh no :( Ah well, better I know now and get that out of the way.
>>47959616
Warrior - the 2-hander class, which is basically Guts - only gets 3 weapon skills sadly.
>>47959292
It depends. I think for more than 50% it's worth it otherwise no
How do you feel about NobleDark? How about a setting that's sort of like Children of Men and A Boy and His Dog and also some third thing that's not so terrible?
Then LISA is for you, my friend.
>>47958278
>tfw missed the DnD games sale
>>47958576
I fell into a slight trap with the Mystic Archer class. While it's fantastic, and the exploding bolts are great, it is really, really limited against different types of enemies.
Some 'mini-boss' battles are impossible if you have the wrong followers with you, since your abilities are pretty limited and all your shots HAVE to home in to particular spots.
For instance, Golems.
At that point I was so built towards Mystic Archer that I found it easier to just restart.
>>47959445
If you've got tanky followers that can distract enemies, Sorcerer can really get shit done.
Casting FUCKHEUGE spells all over the place.
>>47957307
Well there's no daily deals or flash sales anymore, maybe that's why you feel disappointed. Personally I kind of missed this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLLtajhox1g
>>47955585
Age of Barbarian: http://store.steampowered.com/app/402880/
Not part of the sale, but only about $15 and as /tg/ related as you're ever going to get.
Pic related: the playable characters are Rahaan the barbarian, and Sheyna the once-princess-turned-slave-turned-warrior.
>>47964191
Rahaan: dismembering foes, slaying monsters, and rescuing grateful half-dressed maidens!
>>47964191
>>47964233
Sheyna delivers one of her signature death-blows.
>>47964191
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/402880/
>>47964233
>>47964253
This game has some really bad reviews, citing bugs, sloppy controls, and poor difficulty.
Any comment on that?
>>47956956
How is that game by the way?
I remember when I saw it first come out, what, years ago? I thought it looked super interesting but that I would wait it out. I proceeded to hear absolutely fucking nothing about it forever but its still for sale fairly often
Things I worry about:
Is it dead or are there still people playing/content being added?
Will I have to microtransaction my ass off?
Is there an actual difference between the 3 factions or does it just change the color of some of my outfits?
What is combat actually like? Standard mmorpg WoW flavor or something slightly different?
>>47957204
What are some good JRPGs btw? I actually like JRPGs but I haven't played very many and a lot of them look the same.
>>47964331
All correct. It's made by an Italian studio and the animation was done in Poser or something.
Just watch the Super Best Friends video if you want to know what it's like.
>>47963952
Metal Golems are a problem until you realize that Throwblast works on the medals.
Then they're no longer a problem.
![kyfgpy[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zsvXzA9.jpg "kyfgpy[1].jpg")
I just bought Pathologic.
What the actual fuck did I get myself into?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTCEAqZGE7s
>>47964580
>That trailer
Whelp, I know what game I'm going to play the next time I decide to go on an acid trip.
>>47964331
>Any comment on that?
The initial release was pretty buggy, yes, but Crian Soft have been patching the problems at a blistering pace - issuing patches daily for a couple of weeks, with an average turnaround of less than two days between an issue being raised and getting fixed. 1.6.4 was just issued, and it seems to have nobbled everything mentioned in the bug-report thread.
I find the controls a little awkward and sometimes unresponsive, but that may just be the game lagging on my very old laptop and the fact that I've *always* been crap at executing combos in fighting games. (Never got the hang of Street Fighter II, for instance.) The way I hear it, people with controllers have it a bit easier.
Certain late-stage bosses are intensely frustrating, yes - at least three of them have insta-kill attacks that they like to spam, and the final boss also uses the environment against you. OTOH, if you're obstinate enough to stick it out (like I am), that very frustration makes finally beating their asses down all the more satisfying. (That said, *everyone* hates that fucking basilisk and his death-gaze, and *hopefully* Crian Soft will nerf the fucker a little in the near future.)
>>47960256
This
>did you ever think that "someone getting dropped in a land full of individuals who wanted something from them very badly but actually they're all friends now so it's k" was unrealistic?
>...
>this is a more realistic depiction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4rwPoRITlI
>already have most, if not all, of the cyberpunk FPS's
Oh well. At least I got Dex.
>>47964191
>>47964233
>>47964253
Oh my god that looks hilariously bad.
>>47964446
Tales of Symphonia (note the way character development is done)
Final Fantasy IX (a case study in sympathetic characters and mood pacing)
Final Fantasy X (a fish out of water story done right with a very well-developed setting)
Final Fantasy VI (another well-developed setting with superbly written characters. Don't buy the garbage port that's on steam, though)
Dark Souls (technically counts. This is how you sandbox)
>>47964580
How long it take you to die? I got beaten to death outside a movie theater a few hours after getting off the train.
>>47965157
Personally, I think the '80s cheese is part of the charm. AFAICT, the whole thing was basically done as a huge love-letter to the 1982 Ahnuld movie and "Barbarian II - the Dungeons of Drax".
Tales of Symphonia is 66% off.
>>47965369
I should have added I've actually played all of the final fantasies.And IX is my favorite by a country mile
>>47965482
But you stopped at XII, right? ...right?
To me it's a toss-up between those three.
>>47965807
There are worse FF games than 13. Like 13-2, LR, and 3.
>>47965807
Nope
Played the first 13 but couldn't make it through the whole game (I don't care if it gets better 20 hours in I don't want to play 20 hours of this)
Played 14 and was actually pleased that somehow an mmo with as close to zero customization as you can get actually managed to be one of the more fun ones
>>47965862
I didn't mind LR mechanically, I think it's mostly just the characters that get people.
I still think people judge the worst FF by the current ones only, personally. Like, 8 is a pile of shit that actually wants you to subvert it's mechanics to get anything done.
>>47965894
XI had a lot of bad mechanics, but story wise it's straight up the best one.
So many good little world building pieces in that game, and a great central plot as well.
>>47965894
Wait I just remembered Tactics
Okay my favorite FF is a tie between IX and Tactics
>>47965906
For some weird reason 8 was actually my very first final fantasy so I hate it a lot less than everyone else. Like, I still don't think its great, but I liked it more than I did 13I also un-ironically enjoyed X-2 so my opinion may be shit
>>47965906
I really enjoyed 8. I did make full use of the Steam version's cheats, though, so it was more the story than the gameplay.
I think 3 is probably the one I enjoyed the least. 13-2 was just kind of dull, and for some reason I just couldn't get on with the sudden change to Lightning.
>>47964428
Not him, but I played a bit of it.
Honestly, Secret World makes me kind of mad--because it just had to be an MMO instead of a proper singleplayer game. The setting is /perfect/ and actually have some light ARG elements in missions, but it falls for all the usual MMO trappings.
But, I'm biased. I hate MMOs and have been aching for a proper urban fantasy game ever since Vampire: The Masquerade. Ah well, maybe one day.
>>47965966
>spoiler
X-2 was the shit.
>>47965966
Wait, really? What did you like about it?
>>47966049
10-2 or 8?
8 is harder to define, its more that I don't hold it in the same contempt as everyone else. I find the GF system for equipping skills to be kind of neat, I liked several of the characters, and the story seemed fine. I did find it a bit odd that they came to a huge revelation that the GFs are not exactly a good thing but they kept using the ever loving shit out of them anyway (or that Squall has a personal and admittedly pretty sweet GF that you can never do anything but fight against)
10-2 its the class system and the actual gameplay. Don't get me wrong the story was...painful at times. I mean I liked parts of it and the general "Get tetnus back oh shit tetnus was based off an actually awful person" thing wasn't a bad deal. But the gameplay combined with playing pretty pretty dressup appealed to some bizarre fashion combatista inside of me
God I'm having trouble remembering shit here, feel free to yell at me when I get shit wrong or forget things
>>47966150
Eden is still one of the best things in any FF game.
>they kept using the ever loving shit out of them anyway
It's not like the really had a choice. You try duelling Ultimecia without having any GFs junctioned.
>>47957178
Make sure to get all DLCs while they're on sale, because they are so many.
>>47966193
I actually tried not to use Eden too much same way I tried not to use Knights of the Round in 7
It felt...i don't know like I wasn't supposed to have them? It felt like I was cheating, but in a way the game said was fine.
>>47959387
If you want to do flips and shit, Assassin is your bag. Most mobile class in the game, and it's absolutely bonkers how quickly you can zip around the battlefield.
Mystic Knight is also great, but that's more a class for tanks.
>>47965966
>>47965973
8 was just broken at the very bottom level, and it never, ever got better.
No sense of advancement, actually punishing you for casting spells, practically no progression, Summons were an absolute chore, relying on summons punished you in the late game, most of the limit breaks were useless except for the couple that were game breaking, so on and so forth.
Even the final boss was amazingly terrible in how it works mechanically.
Story was alright, but I guess I felt like too much of it didn't make sense, because they never elaborated on anything. Like, it was kind of neat they never talked about Squall and Leguna being father and son, but there's so many other things left unsaid that just makes things confusing, and then figuring them out felt more like a chore than being interesting.
>>47966258
>they never elaborated on anything
Did you read the info-bank thing?
>>47966150
I never played 8, but I did kind of assume that a lot of the disfavor comes from 7 just being a tough act to follow. Magic system didn't sound very appealing, though.
Yeah, 10-2 is what I meant. Based on watching the first few hours on youtube, Rikku and Yuna's characters seemed poorly handled in the transition. I also wish they would've stuck with turn-based combat, but to each his own.
>>47966258
It didn't help that Squall was boring as an actual listed character trait. When literally the most common words out of your characters mouth are "..." or "whatever" its a little hard to get behind them
And yes I know about half of the story is him working out of that and learning to actually be a leader/functioning adult, but it doesn't really feel expressed that well
>>47966309
I mean as part of the actual storyline. There's so much they leave out of the actual plot as is that's fairly important.
>>47966332
Like, 8 is a clusterfuck even regardless of that, though story wise I think that's where more of the hate comes from.
But in terms of gameplay, the entire system is a poorly explained mess. The game actually punishes you for gaining levels, for example.
>>47966333
I think that's the hardest part to deal with, yea. Like, his character arc is overall fine, minus the part that his arc amounts to "Become able to interact with other people." I think he'd have been much better as a secondary character, personality wise. Like, part of the party, but not the MC.
>>47964428
It has a small but dedicated fanbase. They're still putting out content, although the rate at which they do so isn't thrilling.
Significant content has gotten a little prolific but you can sidestep that by getting one of the bundles; I haven't kept close track but they usually get marked down during the big sales and already represent a discount.
Different costumes is a reasonable summary but there are a few story missions/cutscenes that are faction-specific, as is each mission's debrief response from your handler. If you really get into the lore it might be worth it to you to roll through each faction, since each drops different "breadcrumbs," but not everyone will be that engaged.
Combat is two-sided; actual combat is fairly generic tab-target, don't-stand-in-the-red you find in most mmos. However, the flexibility of the active/passive system is really satisfying if you like to tinker with different combinations of effects, and particularly if you like the idea of periodically encountering enemies that completely shut you down and force you to rethink your entire approach.
>>47965986
As it happens, some of the Black Watchmen (aka the TSW fans who organized their own ARGs) have taken to making their own games.
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?developer=Alice%20%26amp%3B%20Smith
You're right, though; TSW was originally supposed to be a single-player game, although the most notable remaining piece of that legacy is how much more polished the Templar story/characters tend to be.
>>47957474
My pawn was a brown elf named Tulsleah (healslut) and focused on healing spells and loved to pocket heal while acting all high and mighty but as soon as you helped her out she's thank you in an embarrassed tone. Thanks for designing my healer /tg/.
>>47965404
It's also bugged to hell, to where even Durante had trouble fixing it
Mordheim: City of the Damned is pretty good. Does a decent enough job of recreating parts of the tabletop. Sadly, no suicidal diving charges and the wacky stuff that made the tabletop memorable. Still, for what it is I like it a lot.
>>47957408
>>47957474
Bit of advice: learn about inclinations. It can mean the difference between a pawn being a useless talking suitcase or an extension of your Arisen. Shit, 3 well built pawns can practically run the DLC endgame dungeon for you if they're built correctly. Never have I been so surprised at how useful an AI helper can be until I really got into DDDA and pawns.
Some advice to that end: scather doesn't cause climbing. Avoid Guardian inclination at all costs. Pawn training doesn't exist per se. Ignore the Queen's dress. It seems strong but is a full outfit, making it look like it has higher stats than it really does. Never use the queen dress on pawns either, as it is a marker for usually bad pawns.
>>47968455
>have an excellent mage pawn
>four Grand abilities
>immune to most status effects
>0 ratings
It's ok, Priscilla, I know you're great.
>>47965862
Woah hold on... you hated 3? More than 2, the game where just about everything they added didn't work as intended?
I thought 3 was pretty solid.
>>47968590
The good news is that pawn knowledge cancels out most inclinations, so even the most worthless pawn will eventually be worth it.
>>47968621
She's two or three stars in every category. I mean she has never been used; and even if she has no one rated her. No presents, no praise. I know it's not good to expect these things but I can't help but feel like Ralph Wiggum on Valentines day.
>>47968653
Quoted the wrong person, meant for >>47968455
As for that, most people simply don't bother rating. Mage Pawns are the hardest to notice doing anything as well.
>>47965807
I'm so looking forward to XII getting the remastered treatment. I love Ivalice and the open world of the game.
>>47965862
>>47965894
XIII is weird for me, although I'm sure I'm going to get some flak for this. I like most of the characters, I think the combat system is kinda fun, the world seems interesting, but I HATE how pointless the actual gameplay is.
Because it's basically Hallway Simulator, all the fights are essentially scripted and pointless. There's no need to grind (not that you really can, since there's always a certain amount of enemies per hallway section), and most of the battles have absolutely no purpose in the story. It just feels like they wanted to make a movie, and added the game part as a second-thought because it's expected of them.
I actually do want to like it, but I can't really bring myself to play it because it feels so pointless.
>>47968779
That was most people's complaints, minus liking the characters.
Sazh was the only one I actually could tolerate, myself.
But yea, the combat system was kind of interesting, and a lot more interactive than some of the FFs had put into play. Especially coming off of how utterly boring XII's system was.
>>47968800
I did hate most of the characters at first, but five or so hours in, I started to notice that the traits about some of them that I hated were mostly facades (like Snow, for example; I wanted to strangle the idiot at first). Everyone else seemed to have the buds for some reasonable character development, like Vanille and Lightning, but I stopped before anything really grew because I was just so bored by how everything I was doing was pointless.
>>47968840
Vanille's character growth comes down to "Turns our I'm not actually retarded, guys!"
>>47968840
I think Vanille has some great character development; maybe the best of the cast. There's a moment between her and Sazh that is pretty powerful.
>>47968844
I figured it would be something along those lines, considering her narrations.
>>47968864
Vanille was pretty much the main character, along with Snow, that I absolutely hated at first, but grew to like a bit more once I started seeing bits of their true colors.
I kinda regret never getting far enough to actually see Fang become a core member of the party, because she's pretty much the only character I've seen that most agree on being likable.
Hope was a character I felt that had some unfair criticisms, with people calling him too whiny. I felt he was perfectly justified since he was, like, 14, saw his mother die in front of his eyes, and is probably the most out-of-place of the core cast. Maybe the issues people had with him came up more past the point I got, but as far as my playtime, I felt he was fine.
>>47964580
It's the kind of horror that you can only properly emulate if you have actually lived in a third world country. For comparison, Stephen King is the kind of horror you get when someone grows up in the First World of the First World: New England.
>>47968901
Man, I can't say that I liked XIII-2, but Hope's sidekick, and what people suspect to be her ultimate fate, is pretty fucked up.
>>47957474
DD has that Japanese thing where there are a whole bunch of little details that you'd never notice unless you went looking for them that add volumes to the game.
For example: When the King sends you to go find his magic ring, you can have that fucker at the Black Cat copy it for you so that you can keep the ring and give the fake back to the king.
Later on, when the king goes to open the royal treasure trove to give you some shit, his fake ring won't work, and he'll awkwardly suggest that the magic must have worn off and send you off without your reward.
Another fun fact: You can bottle the water from the healing springs. Most people figure that out--what most don't know is that if you bring a dead animal from anywhere in the game world (like a rabbit) to a healing spring, it will come back to life.
Still another fun fact: You can restore rotten meat to its pristine state by bottling it in an airtight container and then adding healing spring water.
Sentinels of the Multiverse.
>>47968946Don't forget that you can sneak into the treasure room with the real ring and open the chest yourself beforehand, netting you both rewards
>>47968946
>That asshole who copies teleport stones and gifts them to people.
>>47968910
You have no idea how much it hurt, after reading through the Dark Tower, to discover that Stephen King is one of /those/ liberals.
>>47969166
What does it matter? Why should a writer's personal beliefs affect your enjoyment of his work, unless his beliefs enter directly into his work?
Like, consider it a mark of a good writer that you didn't immediately know his stance on shit by reading what he wrote.
>>47969174
Because he's a character in the story, and he didn't come across that way at all.
He presented a false face.
>>47955680
got it too. including the DLC
Also DOOM, what is basically /tg/ related because you nerds wont shut up about Doomguy.
>>47969223
The beta for nuDoom completely turned me off, and I was moderately excited beforehand. I realize that it wasn't completely representative, since it was exclusively multiplayer, but it felt so sluggish and clumsy that I couldn't persuade myself the real game would be worth half a damn.
>>47969247
I wouldnt play it for the multiplayer.
i saw some YT vids about it(like the boris video)and got a nostalgia-boner.
And what i heard about the story, sounds exactly like the cheese i like.
>>47957417
Y. I have pretty much all the Spiderweb games, they are enjoyable. Relaxing single player rpg without much depth.
Geneforge is my favourite though.
>>47969262
That's the thing: the way it was being sold was as a frenetic action experience. That wasn't really something original Doom/Doom II was meant for, but in those moments where it was kill-or-be-killed and you were in the zone that's really what the experience became. I was stoked, because the developers were trying to sell me something I miss.
And then I played the beta, and it was just... another generic made-for-console-fps with the movement/transition speeds set to "you'd rather be standing in a bucket of molasses."
If I crank sensitivity to max and my character only makes a quarter-turn when I jerk my mouse six inches? Fuck it, ain't nobody got time for that.
>>47969329
Doom 3 was basically F.E.A.R.
More a Horror Game than the actual doom games.
>>47969339
I'm talking about the originals and the new one.
Doom 3 wasn't the worst thing in the world but it literally did not touch the kind of experience I'm talking about, the one nuDoom's marketing team is trying to convince us it has.
Man, I need to do something with tabletop simulator, haven't used it at all. I should also give mordheim another stab, haven't tried since early access. Vermintide is something I want to play more but I don't want to pub it up.
How's Total Warhammer?
>>47969262
>>47969329
Thing I found interesting was that apparently Doomguy came off as having more character than most voiced characters do, by demonstrating the absolute lack of fucks he gives for the plot. I'd love to get it but the base price is $80 dollarydoos. Brick and mortar has a better price. Bethesda's one of the only companies at the moment keeping up the digital Australia Tax.
>heroes of annihilated empires
http://store.steampowered.com/app/4800
warcraft 3 for adults made by the STALKER devs, 11/10 ending
>thea: the awakening
http://store.steampowered.com/app/378720
fantasy exploration/management game with slavic-inspired mythology
If we're going by games that would be great inspirations, I'd recommend Brigador. A great crash course in cyberpunk writing, art and music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RK3C8JWEn8
Are Enter the Gungeon and Broforce /tg/ related in anyway?
Well, regardless you should get them anyway.
>>47955585
Dominions 4.
>>47955585
South Park and the stick of truth with the two useless dlcs because I am rich unlike cartman. Also not a jew.
>>47969405
Thing I find funny about Enter the Gungeon is that it's one of the most /k/ games out there, yet also probably one that would make certain sections of /k/ tear their hair out.
I know this goes against the whole point of the CoD franchise(360noscope'ing people), but out of my options of Black Ops 2, Black Ops 3, and Advanced Warfare, which one of them has the better campaign/singleplayer mode? Currently, my internet is not stable enough to do multiplayer matches.
>>47969477
I did not play it but I think BO2 had a shit ton of elections in the story.
>>47968996Even though I hated Aelinore's whiny personality, I went ahead and gave the fake ring and looted the treasure room because I hated the Duke more for trying to choke the bitch.
>>47964446
Legend of Heroes - Trails in the Sky is pretty wonderful. It's part of a trilogy, the first (full length) game is £6.49 right now, get it and decide if you want the next two.
I think you will. It has great characters, a good story and is genuinely funny.
The full Spiderweb Software catalog is on sale, *13* incredibly rich and detailed games for £10.49.
It's a must buy, plain and simple.
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/59637/?snr=1_5_9__403
>>47969477
BO2 hands down, BO3 is somewhat interesting but it's straight up sci-fi and I did not enjoy my playthrough, I played on realistic though, it could have been that.
AW is meh
>>47955585
Get Mount and Blade Warband. IT'S ALMOST HARVESTING SEASON!
>>47969538
Supposing that I really like sci-fi combat(I'm probably one of the minority who liked the gameplay video of Infinite Warfare), which one has cooler 'stuff'?
>>47959292
>Has anyone played Avadon? Is it worth playing?
Yes. I didn't like it quite as much as the Avernum setting (maybe because I've been playing Exile since I was a kid) but it grew on me, I really like how deep the moral dilemmas can get, and how subtly your dialogue can influence things.
Get the full Spidweb pack if you don't have the other games yet, totally worth it.
>>47969512
What's the gameplay like? It seems like there are games from four or so different series, how would you go play them?
Man, steam discovery queue's been giving me almost nothing but AAA games ever since I filtered visual novels from it. I don't know if it's a glitch or if it's saying something about the current state of steam.
>>47969383
>heroes of annihilated empires
Is that the game that had crashed fighter jets and the sequels were cancelled?
>>47969600
yes, andthe BBEG driving a tank
they are reviving cossacks though, maybe they'll do something with HoAE
>>47964446
Personal opinion, I'd say the Disgaea series. It has a lighthearted tone but can actually deal with issues and has good characterisation. I cannot comment on the adaption of Disgaea PC though
>>47969589
All the series are different settings, gameplay is very similar - isometric view, turn based combat, lots of dialogue.
As for the settings:
Avernum - basically the Underdark to which everyone whom the all powerful Empire doesn't like is banished. My favourite one by far but I'm biased since I played the original Exiles 20 years ago.
Avadon - you play as the agent of a secret police/enforcers for a multinational pact, protecting it against the barbarians who surround you on all sides. A lot of politics and gray morality, which side you take decides who wins.
Geneforge - you are a Shaper, part of a magical guild that rules the world thanks to its fleshcrafting powers. Kinda like darker Pokemon, you can create and upgrade your monsters as you play.
Nethergate - Romans versus Celts in world where magic and the fey exist.
>>47969613
An actual good Gate game, dare we dream?
>>47969643
doesn't sound too bad, I'll have to pick it up
>>47969652
more like typical fantasy with some weird undertones. As far as I know the modern tech is never explained, you just find for example a fighter wreck and the tank is a big twist in the end where everybody collectively WTFs
>>47969667
It has to be a terran invasion, otherwise there would be more of the stuff or it would be nonfunctional due to age.
>>47969676
well, since it didn't sell enough to get a sequel, we'll never know*
*maybe if you can read cryllic, I believe they released a novel in the same universe, but I've never read it
>>47957933
Dragonfall if you would only get one of the Shadowrun games by Harebrained, it was much more memorable than Hong Kong.
I just got the Dawn of War franchise pack, these games are fucking awesome, can't wait to play.
You guys should check out exanima. Dungeon crawl, but the combat is physics-based, so you swing your weapon with the cursor etc, really cool.
>>47969959
Should i get Mordheim or Pillars of Eternity? They're both just within my budget, both /tg/ related and both have good reviews from people i know. Any anecdotes for either?
>>47969378
I like Total Warhammer, but I played all the previous ones, so it's not exactly an unbiased recommendation
any recs for a portable toaster? I don't have a mouse
>>47970007
I personally liked pillars of eternity more but just keep in mind that while the base game is definitely worth the current price I can't say the same for the white march dlc. The base game is probably one of the best games I played in 2015. It isn't that the dlc is bad but they hardly have more than an extra 10 hours of gameplay and that is if you are going relatively slowly.
>>47969512
>No Blades of Avernum
fuc
i had a registered version of it a long time ago but then my computer died and the key went with it
>>47970020
Get a mouse before you think about getting vidya.
>>47970030
but Anon, nobody needs a mouse when you have a trackpad
>>47970034
This triggers the /v/.
>>47970020
Probs not on sale but you could get some of the old ad&d games on GoG. Like Stone Prophet
>>47970007
Pillars are bit meh, It's basically exploitation of nostalhgia feelings towards olf isometric rpgs, but well, not much more. I personally don't share the die hard nosthalgia googles, BG and it's cousins were good games for their times but they didn't age well, so a game that is their ripoff will feel bit obsolete too. But even if you don't share this view, still, PoE has bit boring plot - I love obsidian's writing usually but that's their worst written game, in addition, exploring the same fucking themes as most of their games, nothong new to add. Leveling is almost as uninteresting as in BG with little choices, combat is slightly better with half-step resignation from vancian casting and addition of regenerative endurance points so you don't need to rest after every combat, just when your "main" hit points grow low which takes longer. Mechanics is mostly blatantly ripped off from D&D, including most of the classes.
Also it has very few unique items so if collecting those was your thing in old games, well, it's quite gone.
>>47969959
Fuck. I looked at like half of the trailer video before I suddenly found that I'd bought the game.
I have no idea what it'll be like except from what I've read, but the way it reminds me of the original Diablo in sheer atmosphere is impossible to resist
>>47957307
>>47957250
Its just the start of the bloody sale, the best deals wont be out for the next 2-3 days. I forked over 15 euro and got wolfenstein the new order and deus ex HR directors cut and im happy
what are some games where I can play a properelf
Buy King of Dragon Pass. It's the goat game of all times.
>>47970087
shadowrun, neverwinternight, pillars of eternety, baldurs gate
>>47970007
Pillars was ok but utterly forgettable, haven't played Mordheim.
>>47970099
was about to buy it but one of the reviews said it was a mobile port, comments?
>>47970020
see
>>47969512
Sprite graphics only, will run on an abacus.
>>47970115
What about on an oscilloscope?
What are some good games with great writing and/or worldbuilding
The remastered/extended/whatever Baldur's Gate: worth it?
>>47970220
Dunno man, it'd probably run so fast you'd just see a blur.
>>47970234
Siege of Dragonspear is alright but Beamdog seems to have completely altered a bunch of stuff in BG2 to make it much easier like giving you directions on quests. I would play Dragonspear because there isn't a reason not to but just stick to the original BG2. BGEE is relatively the same but I would still get it off of GoG to avoid the beamdog tampering.
>>47957474
Also, at some point, try out the Vageta311 Bitterblack Challenge. I started my DDDA experience with that and it was definately worth it. The base game has very little challenge, but bbi is a whole different ballgame.
>>47965404
Tales of Symphonia should never be played on anything but GameCube in my opinion
>>47970392
why?
>>47957474
I've played a bit of DDDA so I might as well run down on the basics. You're going to need a rig at least as powerful as a PS3 to play it. Probably won't be an issue unless you have like, a 4 year old toaster like me.
secondly the PC version has all of the DLC from the PS3 version for free since you're missing out on a handful of items and the sweet bonus of an Eternal Ferry Stone (I.E. a fast travel item) once you get to the Gran Soren Inn (It's in your storage.) Other improvements include increasing the number of port stones (items you can drop to create a fast travel point) and slapping immovable port stones outside every major settlement and I THINK all the forts but I'm not sure.
Now for starters this is a game where you don't want to play a mage. Not a pure mage anyway, their casting takes a lot of investment and it's more a supporting role. Personally I suggest playing a Mystic Archer or Mystic Knight but the Strider or Warrior derived classes work fine.
>cont
>>47970231
Final Fantasy VI and X (IX has great characters and writing but just okay worldbuilding; same with ToS)
Pathologic
Fallout: New Vegas (including Dead Money, Honest Hearts, and Old World Blues)
Fallout 2 (and 1, apparently)
Dark Souls
Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind (I hear)
Dragon Age Origins (ymmv. Great setting, some interesting roleplay elements, but the writing is the most edgehard shit I've ever seen)
>>47970462
anyways, second point. This game doesn't have much character building. Your character does not talk.
That doesn't fucking matter since 90% of what you're going to be doing is wandering around, killing monsters, collecting cool shit to wear, collecting pawns you like, and getting frustrated with the RNG so you can finally get a fucking glacial pinion to upgrade that thunder enchanted staff.
There's monsters like Goblins, Undead, etc and then you get Ogres, Cyclops, Chimera, Gryphons, Dragons, Golems...
if you liked Shadow of the Collossus or you're a fan of monster hunter get this game as you're probably gonna be clambering around a lot of monsters.
oh and Gryphons don't give a fuck about your waifu so if you're escorting an NPC you like for an item and EXP boost run the fuck away.
Tl;DR
Play it for a free roaming monster killing RPG with some decent lore.
If you want a deep story with character involvement try the spiderweb software games featured earlier in the game.
Make sure you have a controller.
>>47970392
I bought it and it works perfectly fine now. Except it seems you can't jump in combat now, so Forcystus is probably gonna be a kick in the nuts.
>>47964580
>>47970477
>Pathologic
Weren't the devs doing a remake? I remember putting off the purchase because of this.
>>47970399
It's better optimized for starters, I found the controls to be downright sluggish compared to the console version, and that's not even counting in the multitude of bugs from the port.
I might be a little biased after having sunk some odd 150-200 hours into it, but the PC version was just pure disappointment for me
>>47968946
...
that rotten ambrosial meat just got a FUCK of a lot more valuable.
Speaking of games, do you fine gentlemen know of any games featuring drow, the underdark or similar creatures/settings, apart from Baldur's/Icewind Dale, Avernum and Arx Fatalis?
>>47970535
>Arx Fatalis
I've got Arx Libertatis installed yet I haven't touched it. Should I?
>>47970546
I liked it when I played it years ago, especially the magic system. Then again, FPP games don't age that well.
Worth a try.
La-Mulana is basically an OSR megadungeon in videogame format. You absolutely need to take notes if you even want to get past the halfway mark of the game and by the end you'll more than likely have a notebook full of sketches, drawn maps, and messages.
>>47970514
They definitely already reworked it from the original 2005 release, mostly with the translation and resolution. No big loss either way though, it costs like $7.
>>47957250 lol be butthurt, we will all continue to do what you don't like and not even give a fuck. OOHHHH!!
>>47970766
>/v/
pls dont
Amnesia: DD/MfPigs ($4 each)
Blood Bowl: Chaos Edition ($7.50)*
Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition ($5)
Darkest Dungeon ($15)*
Middle Earth: Shadows of Mordor ($12.50)
Mordheim ($16)
Sunless Sea ($9.50)
XCOM: EU/EW ($7.50 each)*
*Personal favorites - had no qualms about paying full price for them; now they're an absolute steal.
>>47970823
>Sunless Sea ($9.50)
sell me on it, its on my wishlist and i cant remember why, probably added in a drunken stupor after reading about it on here
>>47970076
Steam are doing a solid, non changing sale now. It's because of the refund mechanic. If they put in refunds, they'd have to approve a metric fucktonne of refund requests every time a game went from -50% to -75%.
Refunds for shit games, or flash sales for excitement, pick one. Steam chose refunds, and with greenshite, I'm glad they did.
>>47970855
Very difficult game, unlikely you'll "succeed" on your first playthrough, or even your tenth, or twentieth. Jam fucking packed to the gills with references to Lovecraft and his ilk. It's easy to accidentally become a cannibal, and hard to kick the habit. You and your people have literally been down in the Zee for so long that prolonged exposure to real sunlight is lethal.
It's a neat game, but be prepared to sink a lot of time into it, because a lot of what makes for success is remembering what things worked and what didn't from previous games. Some parts of the map are constant, but many of them will change radically per playthrough. I enjoyed it, personally.
>>47959315
It's not that similar.
>>47970885
I'll wait until it drops a bit cheaper then, since i can't sink morrowind-level time into anything until i had in this thesis.
>>47970895
Best of luck!
>>47970855
It's vaguely Lovecraftian weird-London where you both have to manage your (meager) resources, get good at ship combat, and betray your own morals for your survival. When you inevitably lose/die, your next of kin takes over.
>>47966218
Or just pirate them.
>>47970944
why would you do that to paradox interactive
>>47955585
I've bought Naissancee and STALKER Shadows of Chernobyl and Hotline Miami
I don't even know why I bought them because I have like thirty games in my library I have bought and not even touched, but they cost me $16 all together
>>47969408
Are there people who haven't played it? If so then yeah, get and play Dominions. There's a general in /vg/ which will be helpful. It's the deepest fantasy strategy game in existence, nearing Dwarf Fortress-tier in depth.
>>47959387
they get all the mage offensive spells and some neat stuff like Mystic Canon which slaps down a magical ball that you hit to spit out homing blasts. It's legit the most effective way I've found to kill phantoms. On top of that you get to keep a handful of fighan man abilities like tusk toss.
haven't fully explored it yet, give it a try.
>>47970953
Personally I don't pirate their stuff, but it does make me more than a bit angry to see just how much DLC they put out, and for how much. I wonder if that's really the only fiscally viable way to do it, anymore.
>>47970114
It was ported to mobile a while back. The Steam version includes some of the modifications to the mobile version.
>>47956934
the art makes up for the awful gameplay imo
>>47970919
>betray your own morals for your survival.
Can I play an evil twat?
>>47970954
>I have like thirty games in my library I have bought and not even touched
Could be worse.;_;
I really enjoyed Trails In The Sky. It's a jrpg, but probably one of the only well written ones I've played in years. It's very methodical storywise, and takes its time developing characters, but that just makes it more rewarding in the long run. Combat is a bit methodical also but there's a lot of strategy and you can beat just about everything without needing to grind (if your savvy enough).
Beyond that, you can't go wrong with Dark Souls.
>>47971040
Oh hell yes. You could be the devil incarnate, if you wanted. There are bad, bad people in the world of Sunless Sea who need bad people like you to do bad things for them.
Of course... some people might not take kindly to you if any of your misdeeds come out.
>>47971053
>thirty
Oh you sweet summer child.
>>47970953
Because I can't afford to drop more than a week's pay on a game.
>>47970982
Most of the big ones are legitimately worth it to me, but yeah, the aesthetic shit is stupid.
>>47971157
The price is actually pretty reasonable at 75% off though.
>>47971170
Mostly it just ticks me off that they're guilty of a lot of the textbook-example "build a game, cut out part, sell it as DLC later" shit. Like Way of Life? The stuff in there fundamentally alters the entire game, and it really feels like it -should- have been there all along; without it, you're crippled by comparison. And yet, it's parted out for cash. I just wish I knew whether or not it was a case of, "Yes, we can't afford to keep creating new content for games without this price tag" or "Bitch I'm the fucking Johann and the Johann needs his hookers and blow."
>>47969329
Dude, wat.
I dont even have mouse sensitivity at half and I can do a full 360 by moving my mouse a few inches. You got something up with your hardware if youre being serious.
Also, the multiplayer isnt representative of the game because the multiplayer wasnt even done by ID. The reason the multiplayer feels like another console fps is cause it was made by people who make generic console fps multiplayer.
Trust me, the singleplayer is very good. It wont feel exactly like OG Doom, but realistically theres no way it could without rereleasing the originals. But the gunplay is fun, the enemies look good, and the action feels like youre playing an old school arcade shooter. I played through it four times and still want more.
>>47957474
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>>47958931Wolves hunt in packs, arisen
>>47970099
AW CRAP!
Thanks man, I almost forgot to buy that
How're the Shadowrun games if I know nothing about the setting except stories from /tg/?
>>47959315
It's not that similar. If you're a patient person, and understand the mantra "live to fight another day", you'll do well. But you literally start off as joe shmoe.
I'm one of the morrowind fags who could go on for days about how it is better, but I won't here.
>>47970535
Tough nobody asked, I must say; Hordes of the Underdark was the greatest videogame-tabletop experience for me.i will always love you Deekin
>>47969183
Isn't the dark tower a post apocalyptic fantasy series? How is Stephen Kings political views gonna show up within the story?
>>47971240
Quite good.
>>47971240
I played the first "Shadowrun Returns" game without even being able to tell apart Shadowrun from Warhammer.
I fell in love with it.
>>47971260>i will always love you Deekin
You made me remember that gay porn of him.
Thank you, Anon.
>>47971294
The moment I typed it, i suspected something like that exists
I'll just pretend this never happened
