Holy shit someone actually posted busty - edition
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Let's start this general off with some bingo.. Free tile to come in the following post
I just finished this, first book I've read about Chaos. Really liked it, learned about siege warfare looking up some of the termsEnding made me think of this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRjLv1L0WF8
>>47702791
And the free tile is: BUSTY ROUGH RIDERS!
>>47702793
Read Priests of Mars if you want the rest of Hawkins story.
What was your last game like?
I played a 1000 point game against the Genecult with a Broodlord hunting pack against my Raven Guard/Inquisition. Unfortunately I lost, but it was still great fun.
So since I am finally getting around to building a Battle Company for my DA successors I was wondering about color schemes for the other 8 companies.
My Ravenwing and Deathwing are opposites but I have a have a third color that I use for both and was wondering if it was would be cool to do them all in White (the 3rd color) or some other random color.
As far as I can tell DW and RW don't wear Green besides some of their robes yet their Regular Dudes are all green.
>>47702824>inb4 someone guesses the colour scheme
>tfw just realized that the Bolters mounted on the Box DLC can be used as pintle-mounted guns for my tenks. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Munitorum-Containers-Astra-Militarum
Time to buy about three of them. At least.
And 4 Scions boxes.
And paints for the Scions and Box DLC.
>>47702822
It was a 250 point kill-team game against a Tau Player. He had 3 crisis suits, 1 broadside, and a single token fire-warrior named Mamoru, who was his team mascot.
I got tabled in 4 turns, without killing an single model.
>>47702813I assumed he just died from cancer after being interrogated. Sometimes the implications are too grimdark
>>47702824
>>47702837
Give me their name, and I believe that I shall be able to correctly deduce their color scheme!
>>47702813
Is that series good? Book seems to have iffy reviews
>>47702874
Not him, but I myself love them, currently reading Priests of Mars.
>>47702887
Isn't that the first one?
>>47702822
SoB MSU Meltaspam vs Iron Hands Stormlance+Smashfucker/Librarius/Gravbiker deathstar. I lost, but nearly tabled him in the process. All he had left was Smashfucker himself and one tac marine hiding in a corner.
>>47702874
As a mechanicus novel? I loved it. As far as authors go, Grahamn Mchneil is a Sci-fi author first and foremost. He writes sci-fi'ish sci-fi. So it's very sciency, as a novel about an explorator fleet should be.
But it's also not terribly grimdark, and not all that exciting until nearly the end.
>>47702793
Also thought of this art. Any good iron warriors siege art?
>>47702822
Played a 1500 point game against Tyranids with my Grey Knights. It was a close game. He took double flyrants and a mawlock. I took 2 dreadknights and draigo. Ended up that he beat me 7-6 in victory points because I couldn't kill his flyrants with anything I had brought. In the end he had his 2 flyrants, I had draigo and 2 terminators. Next time I'll have my xiphon interceptor ready and hopefully it can kill at least one of them.
>>47702847
Jesus christ Tau players are faggots. How is that even a legal list? Not playing HoR?
>>47702921
This is all I got of iron warriors
>>47702844
stop with this DLC meme, its a fucking supplement
>>47702763
Version 8 is out now of the condensed rule sheet.
Also: still looking for that CSM Warbands PDF fandex thing. It was good shit, & I need it for a friend.
>>47702900
Yes.
>>47702929
I was playing Heralds of Ruin, and it was a completely legal list. He had one Crisis Shas'ui, 2 Crisis suits, and one broadside. So 1 leader, 1 core, and all 3 special slots.
Next time he pulls this kind of faggotry though, I should just counter it with my own faggotry team of 3 grav-centurions.
>>47702921
I can assist you.
>>47702935
The post was to get (You)'s. Congratulations on being the first retard to take the bait.
>>47702964
>>47702959
Ah Crisis HQ ok. Thats a bitch move though, cheesing kill team is as low as it gets.
>>47702824
Angels of Absolution have a bone white color scheme for their normal marines. They're like, Dark Angels with only half the autism. That's what I'm painting!
>>47702986
I like the cover of my copy more than that version of the cover
>>47702986
More IWs. I once thought I could crash threads with my Iron Warrior folder, but I was wrong.
>>47703002
Taufags are low as they come. News at a 11.
>>47703019
I like that style too.
>>47702972
Nah, it wasn't actually bait. I've been meaning to build up my IG force, and the 4 Scions boxes will let me use them as an army if I ever feel like it. More tanks is also good too.
'Course, I'm going to convert them into Cultists though. My friends let me use 30k rules, which means that I can have a sweet list involving massive hordes of fear causing 6+ FnP melee using infantry with WS 4 and 3 attacks base.And I've always called them Box DLC.
>>47702986
Looking kinda Warmachine there.
>>47703038
>>47703055
Explain?
>>47703002
It's terribly annoying too, since he can just ID entire teams to death with more heavy weapons than any other faction can bring.
My kill-teams group plays with a homebrew that we call "Eternal Crusade" rules, whereby if a model is reduced to 0 wounds, you just set the model on its side, and another team member can use his shooting to instead pick up a teammate if he's in base contact. At the end of your turn, any model on it's side has to make a toughness save or be removed from the table. And if you're killed by instant death, you don't even set him over, because instant death obviously means instantly dead.
It makes games last roughly 45 minutes in our experience, and makes for more tacticool, teamworky gameplay
>>47703060
Literally first google result for "warmachine artwork"
>>47703060
>>47703098
That's Ferrix isn't it?
>>47702933
Hello Johnny, this is Jenny, over. Confirming order to kill them all, copy.
>>47703086
Same artist.
>>47703108
That's the filename I got when I downloaded it.
>>47703055
I'm pretty sure that image predates the warmachine cover by a few years.
Could be the same artist, though. I wouldn't doubt that.
>>47703086
I've actually liked some of the models Warmachine has done. Sure, a lot of it is overdesigned, but I have a attraction to them for some reason.
Why are there both Iron Hands and Iron Warriors
Why are there both Luna Wolves and Space Wolves.
Why are there both Dark Angels and Blood Angels?
Didn't the Emperor have like a mascot registration service or some shit?
>>47703141
I doubt that's Honsou. In the cover of the book they used that art for he's just a marine. Ferrix is always in Terminator armor
>>47703141
Hey look it's Angron!
>>47703145
what the fuck else are you gonna call a legion of space marines who cut their hands off and have robutt hands?
>>47703148
Ah shit Forrix not Ferrix. Something I was doing had the name Ferrix
>>47702870
Angels ofVindication
>>47703016
I wrote my own which I guess means twice the autism.
>>47703145
>Why are there both Iron Hands and Iron Warriors
Ferrus was found first, and Perty probably didn't know until later.
>Why are there both Luna Wolves and Space Wolves.
Moon Wolves got their names from attacking the moon.
>Didn't the Emperor have like a mascot registration service or some shit?
The legion named themselves.
>>47703153
Funny.
Writefag here. I've been mulling a story idea over in my head to tie into the whole Oath-Broken style CSM and wanted to write about some renegades who follow that whole "loot everything, even the bodies for supplies" mentality. Being the inspired sort I am in terms of gow the story reads I wanted to start with creating a loyalist chapter but I'm a little stuck on what to name my crusading fleet of Marines.
Any ideas or suggestions on how to pick a name that doesn't suck?
>>47703086
Why do people like warmachine again? It looks like a Caricaturized bastardization of 40k.
>>47703145
>Raven Guard
>Death Guard
>Thousand Sons
>Emperor's Children/Sons of Horus
>>47703200
What do they do? Any theme or style they draw from heavily?
>>47703203
It's for those annoying douches who are too much of a jock for warhammer fantasy but too much of a nerd for just sticking to football.
>>47703145
Because they originally weren't called that, anon.
Originally, the Raven Guard, for example, were called the Dustwalkers. Corax then renamed them. As did every single chapter rename or get renamed. Luna Wolves became Sons of Horus after Ullanor.
The Emperor had much more original names when they formed, but they either earned the new names or were given them based on shit they did. Besides, the Emperor couldn't give a toss. He had a galaxy to conquer, not autistically change names to be super kewl, leave that shit to The Lion and Dorn.
>>47703168
It's OK, eventually once you reach enough autism it cancels out and youre a normal person again right? That's what I'm going for.
>>47703189
I like the little checker board scheme.
>>47703203
I hate the dreamscope sometimes.
>>47703168
Somehow, that's not an actual chapter. Good job.
Either Black with a Red trim, or Blue with some other color. Possibly Green or Black.
>>47703203
Hipsters and so you get threads like this to feel better bout yourself.
>>47693884
>>47703217
Crusading fleet who specializes in lighting strikes to the enemy's command chain usually through use of Assault Marines and Drop Pods.
Basically cut off the head and rip out the heat and before destroying the body.
>>47703069
We have a Mechanicum dude who powergames in our 40k/Kill Team group. He got ostracized for like a year from our 1850 games. I think he's got 2 games since last summer.
We just started a HoR campaign a few weeks ago. Fluff heavy, everyone built + painted new stuff except him. He showed up with the cheesiest list he could, and in his first game he was instantly called out for going 30 points over.
Waac fags just cant help themselves. I cant stand the fat fuck, and I ridiculed his horrible painting skills, fatness, etc. - until he knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that I dont like him.
>>47703158
Why the Iron fists of course... Wait a minute.
>>47703242
the cost of maintaining these vehicles is too damn high.jpg
>>47703203
I like it because the rules are better. Both games are fun though in different ways. I'm also thinking of getting into Kings of War if I can find people who play.
>>47703117
Oh shit thats hilarious. Based Grishnak.
>>47703278
Still better than Black Templars and White Templars. And...wait for it...RED Templars!
>>47703203
It poaches disgruntled GW customers, and ultra-jaded tabletop guys.
>>47703280
It was used for robots.
How posable are knights? I always see them in the same stance every time. Could you have them kneeling or leaping forward or w/e?
>>47703251
>>47702837 isn't me. I am guessing it is someones meme because I spent a few months reposting old pics of my army. Also wrote a bunch of fluff for them too.
The color scheme was chosen long ago. Thanks for the suggestions though.
>>47703316
Requires heavy cutting and cable extensions.
>>47703293
Anon, there is a warband called Gladiator Group 138, and a chapter named The Nameless. Don't make fun of the Templars.
>>47703316
Yeah but you'll have to do some cutting on the legs. The knee joints are the only part that will require moderate modeling skills.
>>47703316
everything is poseable, except for the legs
converting the legs isn't impossible, there's more than a few guides online
have you ever seen someone playing a model with evidence of it being hotglued previously?
>>47703316
The hands have some surprise bits of articulation, as does the hips. The legs will require cutting however.
>>47703117
Nice.
>>47703352
>dotamajor
Your insults are all invalid, kiddo.
At least I play an army painted.
>DA are Chaos Memes
*yawns*
>>47703355
I inspect all my opponent's miniatures with a blacklight before my games.
So I am getting some metal models in that I need to strip. I have a sandblaster I use for blasting rifles at work. Could I use that instead of chemicals for stripping? Or is that too harsh for these models?
>>47703355
My White Scars friend uses hot glue for "dynamically" posed Landspeeders and Bikers.
They look cool and angels and doing wheelies but he did say he burnt his fingers a bunch doing it.
>>47703355
ask slaanesh.com
>>47703398
Shit man I just want to watch you do it but no that is a god awful idea. You will obliterate anything that resembles details.
>>47703409
Anon, you missed the point. Hot gluing is something you do to slaanesh models.
Why do some weapons have tubes extending to the armor? Extra power source?
>>47703445
i like to think its like the wiimote but connected to your back
>>47703398
Miniatures are soft tin and pewter. They aren't hardened steel like weapons. Miniatures bend with a simple push of a finger. Weapons withstand the extreme heat of a forge or explosion.
>>47703421
I mean its really fucking fine sand and I use it all the time on metal with finely sketched etching, but I have never tried it on pewter. Just seeing if anyone else has done it.
>>47703445
Usually this is only on Terminator armor and weapons, or the heaviest power armor weapons like Thunder Hammers. It's because the large weapon requires more power than a small integrated power supply would generate.
>>47703445
Power cables.
>>47703433
>muh innocence
Quick! Tell us your OCDONUTSTEEL Chapter names!
>Space Marines
Sanguinary Angels
>Adepta Sororitas
Order of the Flaming Rose
Order of the Golden LilyFor my magical realm fantasies, not that the one above isn't
>Ad Mech
Hephaestax Prime
I did lots of fluff for them in my head, but it's autism mode already, plus /tg/ has regular said that it's 'for faggots' to make up their own fluff and nobody gives a shit, both when you game and on here.
>>47703477
Guess you are right. Doesn't hurt to ask before I go and fuck up royally on some $50 models.
>>47703501
>feeble claws
>they're supposed to be able to rip through terminator armour like butter
>AP5
accurate
>>47703505
>Sanguinary Angels
Really nigger? Do you have an Ultramarine successor named Azure Astartes too?
>>47702937
>>47702720
That guy's work is awful, and a perfect example of why CSM fandexes fail.
>>47703505
> Space Marines
Godslayers. A whole chapter of space marines that goes into battle with centurion suits. Including the dreadnoughts and captains. They specialize in hunting down titans, usually with extreme number of casualties.
>>47703470
I can't think of anything humorous to say.
>>47703494
But how do you explain this joker?
>>47703505
Tundra Talons and the Frenzied Scions.
>>47703505
>Sisters
The Gilded Word
>>47703540
>Dreadnought Centurians.
Someone make a pic of this. I need this.
>>47703557
Demonically Possessed weapon that converts his constantly drugged blood into ammo.
>>47703526
not him, but is it really any different than the various other plays? Angels Vermillion? how is that anything majorly different to Blood Angels?
>>47701322
This hobby is expensive but a half hour drive is nothing, anon.
Start by choosing which faction you want to collect. Focus on collecting a single force for right now or you'll end up with several unfinished armies. I'd recommend looking at the armies on Games Workshop's website first. A good amount of this hobby is spent on assembly and painting so liking the look of the models is more important than choosing what's currently most powerful on the table.
When you begin to narrow down what armies you like follow the links in the OP and download some army book PDFs. Read the lore and find the faction you like the most. The books should include examples of color schemes and you're encouraged to make your own as well.
The bare minimum you need to play most games is 1 HQ and 2 troops. These should be your first purchases. If you're headed to a GW store explain to the owner that you're just getting into the hobby. He'll probably offer to show you a tutorial on gameplay and try to sell you modeling supplies and paint. You don't need to pick up everything as once. If you prefer to start with a box of plastic troops, glue, clippers, and files that's alright.
You need to remove the moldlines from your models. This is not optional. There are tutorials on Games Workshop's youtube channel to help you out with assembly and painting. Also check out the links in WIP General threads and post your progress.
>>47703557
again, a wiimote that shoots bullets, don't want to drop your gun when you go to bash someone's fucking head in
>>47703501
That poor alien.
![[dorfing intensifies].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/INSn1W1.jpg "[dorfing intensifies].jpg")
>>47703575
That's actually pretty cool.
>>47703585
Knowing Chaos that probably is a thing.
>>47703540
Neat idea. So, the Centurion is then put inside a Dreadnought? Who are they founded on?
>>47703557
Who are they successors of?
>>47703558
I'm waiting until I see the Raging Heroes models before I decide 100% on the paint scheme for my sisters. I had planned on the colour, it's essentially the original colour scheme, but with gold added to it and different parts painted different. I'd also like Grisnak Models to combine them.
Ideally, GW would update.....
>>47703629
No, you don't understand. They put Dreadnoughts in centurion suits. It's literally a dreadnought that wears a centurion suit like we would wear a hoodie.
Also,world eatersuccessors, because why not?
>>47703629
>Who are they successors of?
The Talons are successors of the Dark Angels and live on France in Space! but with 125% snow. The Scions are successors of the Blood Angels who unintentionally look like Christmas Marines.
>>47703671
>Implying the First Legion would recruit from France in Space.
For shame, Battle Brother.
They mock us as it is.
>>47703700
The neighborhood seemed nice enough.
Je vais dormir, /tg/. Fais de beaux rêves.
>>47703145
>Space Wolves.
You mean the Corgi marines, right?
>>47703810
je m’en fou.
>bought a box of Necron Warriors
>also something else I think
>I don't really remember what it could be
>refuse to check and see what it is so the surprise isn't ruined
>>47703578
Angels Vermillion at least uses a color instead of a blood word, and swaps the words around. Sanguinary Angels is literally just Blood Angels. Didn't even bother to change the order or even the second word, and straight up uses the most used synonym for Blood in the chapter, due to Sanguinor, Sanguinius, etc.
>>47703557
Sound tubes.
>>47703864
>You expected some Wraiths? Too bad! It's me, Flayed One-kun!
THE SILENCE OFFENDS SLAANESH
Just for funsies, how's this idea for Vanguard Vets?
1st Company Task Force - 555 points
White Scars Tactics
3x Vanguard Vets
Power Lances
Jump Packs
Storm Shields
Jet pack around, charge into things, Hit&Run, recharge for Power Lance bonuses.
>>47703916
>yfw you fail the hit and run test and are stuck in combat swinging power noodles
>>47703896
Oh shit I actually remembered what it was. Oh well, at least I don't have to suffer anymore.
So do Drop Pods really get Objective Secured since they're Dedicated Transports for Marines?
>>47703938
Maybe one or two of them with lances and the other one or two with claws to rush in and save them if shit goes bad.
>>47703960
Yes. Try to pod them onto objectives.
>>47703916
>power lances
Bad idea, I'd say just roll with swords.
Or you can be like me and take bolt pistols and plasma pistols.It doesn't work at all but it's funny
>>47703960
These are the types of morons ruining the FAQs.
>>47703960
Yes, drop pod tactical squad spam has been used against me several times. It works if you aren't ready for it - just fill the board with tiny 5 man units and vehicles and he runs out of time to kill them
Is anyone actually use the death from the skies suppliment?
Normally the guys at my shop eat up anything GW puts out but they basically just ignored the existence of this.
Haven't seen the rules at all but the idea of 'updating' the 40k rules in an optional suppliment sounds like a joke.
The reason I'm asking is because I was thinking about buying a flyer of some kind after seeing that one Ork comic, which one should I go for?
>>47704076
nope I dont even know a thing about it
>>47704076
If I were to play a game with my flyers I wouldn't use it. It just adds unnecessary complication. Plus my FW flyers don't have updated rules so they can't even be used with it.
>>47704099
>If I were to play a game with my flyers I wouldn't use it. It just adds unnecessary complication.
This, I hate flyers and I rarely use them but this supplement takes it to a whole new level and adds shit no one wanted. They should just make flyers back into fast speeders and maybe add the 'can only be snap fired at unless its skyfire'.
>>47704076
For orks you get the "flyboss" upgrade which is already built into the 7th editon book as the grot gunner upgrade. The death from the skies supplement was made in 6th when orkz had an actual codex. Not ORKS, its ORKZ GW!
>>47703998
What a genuinely horrible list to play against.
>>47704119
Welcome to competitive 40k.
>>47704119
No different then Eldar; The psychic phase with nothing but psykers-wespent2hoursinthepsychicphasealone
>>47703916
Veterans, expanding the keks edition. I plan on making a set for each inquisitorial branch, no defined points limit, just fluffy detachments to mix and match.
FORCES OF THE INQUISITION
ORDO XENOS DEATHWATCH
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor - 79
3x Servo Skulls
Conversion Beamer
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor - 58
Needle Pistol
Power Armor
Ulumeathi Plasma Syphon
1st Company Task Force - 555
White Scars Tactics
3x Vanguard Vets
Power Lances/Swords
Jump Packs
Storm Shields
Stormhawk Assault Group - 510
Iron Hands Tactics
Stormraven Gunship - 200
Sternguard Vets - 160
Combi Weapons
Venerable Dread - 150
TLLC
Heavy Flamer
Reclusiam Command Squad - 400
Iron Hands Tactics
Chaplain - 120
Grav Pistols
Command Squad - 205
Apothecary
Storm Shields
Plasma Guns
Razorback - 75
TLLC
Are orks going to get any help soon or should I just start parting stuff out
>>47704191
Don't play competitively.
Don't play competitively.
Don't play competitively.
Don't play competitively.
If you have the models already all walker lists are pretty good.
Everyone loves orkz and they appreciate your suffering.
>>47704191
>abloobloo my codex is bad i'm going to sell my army
Why'd you even bother playing them in the first place if that's the kind of attitude you're going to have?
>>47704227
i figured they would have gotten something in the past 2 years, instead of having stuff taken away. They just arent as fun as they were when i first got them. I used to put them down and expect cheeky shenannigans. Now i just expect to be tabled by turn 3
>>47702763
What is a fun Dark Angels kill team list? Preferable with deathwing and/or ravenwing because why else would you be playing DAngels
>>47704219
>everyone loves orks he says
Wouldn't hate them half as much if they got of my fuckin rock
>>47704191
Consider using a homebrew codex. There's a new one floating around that's pretty solid I hear.
>>47702844
>pintle bolters
>not pintle heavy stubbers
>literally.why
>>47704270
My situation is I usually ony have access to do pickup games and organized leagues, so that probably wont work out too well.
>>47704191
why don't you play mirror matches? that way no one is up, it's all down to who wins the first turn and that's it.
You can keep conceeding after first turn until you get first turn and win.
>>47704263
Are those steel legion?
>>47704263
With hardwarel like that, its not like you must see them close very often.
>>47704313
>mirror match
>first turn
>not deploying at 6"
>deploying at full 12"
>not crossing the T in firepower as they try to get objectives
Its like you field green tide only.
>>47703534
Which one? This one? This is the only one I've seen around, and it's pretty solid.
Hell of a lot better than nothing at any rate.
>>47704364
How come I cant find the Blood Ravens in there?
>>47704376Just use Black Legion Tactics, anon
>>47704376
They were gifted their own fandex
Iron Hands a good chapter for someone getting into spess muhreens? I like their history
>>47704470
>I like their history
That's literally the only reason you need to play them.
They're pretty solid on the table, though. They have one or two power builds, but otherwise they're definitely pretty durable and forgiving for a new player.
>>47704386
>>47704447
Ya know, I really wish they had some special rules about their usuall number of psikers, like, if you spend x points you can upgrade your sergeants to a psiker sergeant or something.
Their lore always mention the high numbers of psikers but that its never represented in any media.
>>47704506
Thousand Sons in >>47704364 have the option to upgrade any Marine Champion (read: not Cultists, Possessed, or Warp Talons) to be a ML1 Psyker and a Force weaponfor the math-hammered price of 40pts though, in addition to being able to purchase another Psychic level for 25pts.
It's always possible to do that if you wanted to make your own Blood Ravens Tactics. Just remember that it needs to be paid for, as being able to spam that many psykers at the squad level is reward enough it itself.
>>47704539
Funny how the rules for the Thousand Sons fits the Blud Rahvens so well, wink wink.
Anyway, would you play with someone trying to pull that with their army?
>>47704322
>>47704343
I've been known to field some legions of steel, yes
>>47704584
>>47704263
you seem like a cool dude
>>47704569
If they paid for it, yeah. I'm not above trying new things and homebrewI mean I did write all those Warband/Legion Tactics up there, which I personally recommend you look at if you play CSM's at all or are curious if you want to make your own Tactics. Generally, as long as it costs the "normal" amount, and it comes with drawbacks (as most of the Chaos Tactics I wrote do) I'm totally down for homebrew experimentation.
>>47703505
My Hive Fleet is Hive Fleet Sirocco.
I've toyed with some space marine successors at work.
Raven Guard Successor: the Songbirds, vow of silence that is only broken by singing hymns in battle.
Iron Hands Successor: Sentinels of Metalica, a chapter made by the Mechanicus to supplement their great war machines. Readily replaces limbs for cybernetic alternatives.
>>47704701
>Hive Fleet Sirocco
That's genius. Why didn't GW use Maserati making conventions for Nids?
>Hive Fleet Khamsin
>Hive Fleet Bora
>Hive Fleet Ghibli
>Hive Fleet Mistral
>Hive Fleet Shamal
They really missed out on an opportunity there.
>>47704470
Armored task force with a simple CAD eventually getting a bike command squad can be quiet good and carry you to 1500pts.
For starter points just get 15 tactical, a rhino and a razorback with a thunderbird cannon, whirlwind or predator..
>>47704800
Naming conventions*
>>47704260
If you can get TL plasma on a bike platform in killteam it would be huge, if it keeps skilled rider and you can bring a darkshroud then ez gaem.
Wish I played killteam but never see it outside batreps
>>47704800
I just wish they'd explore on non-creature names for them and do more powerful forces of nature.
>>47704800
>no hive fleetsundowner
fuck off
Are plasma pistols worth talking on veteran guardsman sergeants?
>>47704917
Plasma pistols are never that great, but if youre maxing out plasma special weapons it can do alright. I'd only buy it if I had leftover points for it
>>47704917
i would probably only take it on a tempestor in a meltacide squad
>>47704868
What if I included Hive FleetWreckhouse?
>>47704917
Only 0-cost pistols are worth using.
>>47704917
No, your paying full-price for a pistol that could've also bought you a rifle/cannon variant for the same cost and both of those are better at shooting things. If you wanted the extra die for CC just stick with whatever the dude had originally and keep him 15 points cheaper.
>>47704948
are they bad even if you have a weird rule that let's you ignore "gets hot"?
>>47705161
gets hot isn't the problem, paying the same price you do for a full plasma gun is.
>>47705161
It's not so much that gets hot is a problem, it's that the pistol is just flat out overpriced. So much that the bolt pistol/bolter sergeant upgrade for 1 point is arguably better
>>47704637
Never did find a source other than your ass for your claim that the Thousand Sons don't use mortal troops, did you?
63 points is too expensive for a 1 W psyker forced to roll on one of the shittiest tables in the game.
>>47702822
Dredd mob vs Space Wolves.
Massed Grotzookas killed nearly all their melta.
After that it was just mopping up until he conceded.
>>47703251
Nope, vomitous yellow and purple.
hrm. i've been toying with the idea of writing a tyrant's legion army list for heralds of ruin. Open it up so it doesn't just represent the historical thing the astral claws did.
Could represent:
Marines with closely integrated allies
PDF forces
non-chaos secessionists
non-chaos renegades
human Mercenaries.
Though looking at badab war part 1, they also say a possible more extreme variation with swapping out the marine elements for equivalents from codex chaos spess marins.
>>47705285
Man, you really hold a grudge, don't you? The only instance of Thousand Sons working DIRECTLY alongside Cultists, and not using them as auxiliaries to a main attack, was the Battle of the Fang, at which point the Legion was broken into dozens of fractious warbands. When Thousand Sons actually take the field, they fight with Rubrics. Cultists are auxiliaries to their main attack force, just like pretty much every other Legion bar Word Bearers.
EVEN STILL, you can take as many Cultists as you want as non-compulsory Troops Choices. God forbid a Thousand Sons army include, you know, Thousand Sons. Spam them all you like, as long as you take normal Thousand Sons too.
>>47705285
>63 points is too expensive for a 1 W psyker forced to roll on one of the shittiest tables in the game.
A. The upgrade is 40pts, which is the cost of gaining both a Psychic Mastery Level and receiving a Force Weapon. That is the actual mathematical cost of those upgrades as applied in the Codex itself, not numbers pulled randomly out of my ass. Note that these guys still get all of their normal upgrades too - you can get psychic Terminator Champions, Chosen Champions, etc. in a unit. That alone is a pretty major buff, even if it's only to act as a Warp Charge battery for your main Psyker(s).
B. They can take additional Mastery levels to mitigate the fact that Tzeentch sucks.
If you don't like it, don't use it. These tactics are designed to bring different Legions/Warbands more in line with their fluff, not make them Super-Special OP.
Just looking over Daemons.
Would a Tallyband with a FNP Herald and Grotti, plus a seperate herald with The Doomsday Bell be effective?
>>47703505
>Adepta Sororitas
Hospitaller - Order of the Bloodied Lace
Militant - Order of the Sundered Chain
>Astra Militarum
21-Kiini, Phi system, Amphibious Armoured Support.
Hominum system, Mendaci Station Imperial Guard.
Crux Australium 'Glorie' Platoon - Militarum Tempestus
I'm inconsistant with platoon and founding numbers, if anyone asks I just say they are remnant platoons generally.
>Adeptus Astartes
Moss Piglets
I couldn't think of a name and colour I liked and on asking my brother what was an unkillable animal, he was quick to retort Moss Pigs, which are mocroscopic critters that are pretty much the most unkillable thing in existance.
I decided to run with that.
I'm planning on painting them soft pink and green, but I'm unsure just how horrible it'll be.
>>47703505
>chapter
fuck yall, its kabal time
Kabal of The Endless Storm, led by Archon Malin Kresk, The Beast of Ka'tal
>>47703505
>Necrons
Maatekh Dynasty
Lawful to a ridiculous point, heavy use of Infantry and Aircraft
>DE
Kabal of the Slashed Heart
Has close links with the Cult of the Midnight Hunter Coven and the Solar Riders Wych Cult
>>47703505
>Ultramarines Successors
Ultima Warriors
They use a very classic style of ultramarine colors. Though a very young chapter, generous donations from a wealthy lord have allowed them to obtain much better equipment than what most young chapters use.
They think that the modern Ultramarines chapter does a lot of dumb stuff and that Cato Sicarius has probably never actually read the Codex Astartes
>>47704800
im working on a hive that has different color schemes for different, i guess youd call the different types of tyranids ranks in their own rite. anyway, i havnt come up with a name for my rainbow of carnage yet.
or for that matter a color for a biotitan, maybe black and dark blue
The eldar were just announced to be included into Eternal Crusade early access this week.
Gotta admit, I am pretty exited.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QUuruKjElc
>>47705967
>Those voices
Fucking awful
>>47705967
>Want nothing to do with this clearly doomed game
>but Aspect Warriors tho
>Scorpions with Predator-cloaks phasing in at the end
God damnit, I want it, but I want NOT to want it.
>>47706076
the game is actually pretty fun and not as terrible as you might think it is
>>47706076
>he fell for the "Eternal Crusade is doomed" meme
How about you actually form your own opinion, instead of listening to shitposters from /v/.
>>47705967
They should really stop wasting time on these trailers. It gives the game a bad reputation because the assets and production value of the trailers represent the current stage of the game rather than how good it'll look finished, or how good an actual triple A trailer looks.
>>47705967
eldar are gaaAAAAYYYY
>>47706114
I did. I looked at streams, went on forums and kept up to date with it. It looks like a half baked pile of shit with all the hallmarkings of a disaster. It came out with its shop of 'sidegrades' before most main features and its dev has no experience in anything worth mentioning. They started back pedalling on promises pretty quick (like the size of the games) and it's forum of delusional aspies fell over themselves making excuses.
That said, it's a rare source of Aspect Warriors in vidya so I'll take what I can get.
How do you gents recommend running infantry platoons? I'm interested in using infantry as something more than tank bubblewrap, and find Sabre platforms really useful (we've houseruled that they keep the skyfire/interceptor interaction from 6th), but I find 20+ blobs of them really unwieldy to field, and I'm hesitant to sink points into upgrades if they're split up. What role can they fill in a 1.5k game beyond simple meatshields?
Stupid Rule-related question:
So, I got the american version of the rulebook and I'm reading it and... well, all distances are given in inches. I live in a country with the metric system however...Can somebody tell me if the distances are 1:1 the same, just replacing Inches with cm (like, the rules state 6'' and it is 6cm in metrics) or are they actually converted?
I would like to know.
>>47706198
Back when Sabres were still good they were pretty much just meatshields and bubblewrap.
You can do some interesting things with massed infantry tactics regardless, like conga lines and using them as terrain to hinder enemy movement. Unless they are jump/jet/etc they will have to move around your infantry or waste time assaulting them as well as risk being assaulted back if they stay nearby and don't get away/assault.
I would just run them as Sabre taxes, so 2 of the minimum squads then as many Sabre or HWTs as possible.
If you don't have 10+ Sabres/HWTs lying around, which is understandable, simply space them out with 2 tax squads per Sabre group. You probably don't need more than 2 platoons/40 tax guys anyway.
>>47706182
You are aware that the reason why they started "backpedaling" was because the dev team was for all intents and purposes replaced by the most part. The asshats who promised everything were canned, and the new devs had to basically salvage what they could, and start actually making a game that they could reasonably make.
The game has been steadily improving since last january. If you liked Space Marine, there is no reason for you to not like Eternal Crusade, seeing how Eternal Crusade plays like Space Marine, but with more stuff in it both movement, and combat wise.
>>47706218
All languages of 40k use inches.
>he thinks inches and centimeters are the same thing
And people say Americans are stupid.
>>47706218
Well there's a contender for the next round of FAQ questions.
Though it does give me a crazy idea. All ranged weapons now measure their range in cm. Numbers remain unchanged. Movement and charging remain in inches.
Is the game more balanced now?
>>47706236
In his defence literally only USA, Burma and Myanmar don't use the metric system.
Imperial is like latin. Dead.
40k is many people's first introduction to Imperial measurements.
guy at my local store said there is a new ork/space marine box that has the models from a box set from a few years ago. hes not known for spreading false shit, but i cant find anything on gw site, anyone know what hes talkking about?
>>47706283
It is
>>47706236
Centimeters and inches are different and stuff but some gamedesigners opt to just replace the metrics to keep numbers consistent and/or safe on work.
>>47706283
Yeah it's an upcoming thing.
Assault on Black Reach repackaged i to smaller kits and done in Blue/Green dyed plastics for the Ultramarines/Orks.
>>47702803
BUSTY ANONS BAAAACCCCCKKK
>>47706283
It's the Battle for Vedros kits, which are pitched at getting kids into the hobby. They just use the old Assault on Black Reach sprues.
>>47706230
Well, that's not as interesting an answer as I'd hoped for, but thank you. I haven't done much in the way of area denial outside of artillery threats, so it's something to mix things up, at least.
>>47706298
>>47706283
>>47703275
Noice.
Hate the WAAC.
Purge the WAAC.
>>47706323
>>47706312
>>47706298
thanks fellahs. nov huh, guess i gotta bite the bullet and just get some orks now
Were Freeblades a thing during the heresy?
>>47706374
:The ancient tradition of the Freeblade harkens back over ten millennia ago, during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy eras. Known as Legendary Freeblades, these were Nobles who were drawn out from the ranks of their former Households, either willingly owing to the lure of adventure or the unquenchable lust for battle, or unwillingly as outcast, renegade or last survivor. These Freeblades were Knights Mendicant, owing no alliance and no fealty. Of these, many were drawn to the Great Crusade, lured by the thirst for glory or the unceasing clamour of war on the frontier, joining the Questoris Crusade forces and fighting on countless worlds in support of the Emperor's great work. Since that bygone era, the tradition has continued to be upheld by the knightly houses of the Questoris Familia."
Is it physically possible to build a competitive SM list that's built for assault and has no psyk? So far I'm having trouble just getting into assault. Metal boxes only help so much.
>>47706667
How competitive are you looking for?
>>47706667
deepstrike or skyhammer formation, footslogging from your deployment will just get shredded
>>47706496
>Outcast
"Get off of this planet and never return! And take that priceless war machine with you"
>>47706667
Raven guard vanguard vet formation can deep strike perfectly and Charge the same turn
>>47706675
I'm pretty sure my w/l ratio is something like 1/7. I'm no tourny fag, but it would be nice to at least feel like I have a shot at winning.
>>47706678
Looking into it now
>>47706694
I appreciate the help, but I'm already pretty committed to pic related.I like the tabards.
>>47706689
"Muh honour"
>>47706706
Skyhammer will be the main driving force of your success, as it allows you early board control. From there you can fill in with a Land raider with either VV or terms, bikes with a melee HQ and whatever other bits and pieces you have.
>>47706667
You can't get a Land Raider across the table? Maybe a Stormraven then?
>>47706706
>BT
Nope.
You're stuck walking at the enemy with your blobs of not!tacticals.
>>47706743
We've been playing 1k points so the Land Raider is a fourth of my army. It does well, but when my opponent knows what I'm about, he punches a hole in it faster than I'd like. Then I'm out a fourth of my army.
>You get a free Warlord Titan model from Forgeworld
>BUT you may only paint it with a fine detail brush
>And you must finish painting the model within one year
>Failing to follow these rules, or attempting to sell the Titan within the year, will make it, and all your other models, disappear
Do you accept the paw's bargain?
>>47706771
You need adamantium spearhead in your life.
3 raiders that ignore everything but explodes results on a 2+
>>47706808
I don't want that resin piece of shit.
>>47706808
this would be easy as fuck, you didnt specify that the paintjob had to be good
turn your paints into near water and slather that shit on
>>47706833
>>47706723
Both of these are solid options. I feel like skyhammer will work better while being cost effective, but god dammit, three land raiders would be bm as fuck.
>one land raider wasn't doing it for me, so I decided to get two more.
>>47706874
Trouble with three land raiders is that you need to be transporting three relevant units to justify the expense.
>>47706808
No because the Mars Pattern Warlord is shit.
>>47706893
>Relevant
That became a nonoption when he picked BT.
He can put 3x 16 man crusaders in them
>>47706893
My entire force is gonna be land raiders and assault termies
>>47706899
This more of your style?
>>47706808
The paw does not set conditions or offer bargains so obviously its fake.
>>47705875
Australia in latin is Australis, jyst fyi
>>47705967
Compare and contrast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O74nSsaZ9Q
>>47703117
When are these going to be up for purchase?
Are they going to ever introduce the Imperator Titan and it's cousin the Warmonger to the modern 40k?
>>47706955
What is the latin word for SCRAM-Jet?
>>47707014
Unlikely.
>>47707051
Merely curious. How many points would it rack up? 5000?
>>47706951
Yeah that's the ticket.
>>47707072
It used to be 4k for one.
I honestly can't tell if it's Chaos or Ork made.
>>47706976
What's your point?
>>47707127
It's not stumpy/fat enough to be an Ork one.
>>47707119
The boxier pattern does hold a place in my heart.
>>47707121
That's a little too cheap for me honestly.
>>47707144
But it looks like something an Ork would have made.
>>47707132
One of those looks and sounds good with crisp models and clear sound, actually shows the game (rather than hiding it as much as possible behind jump cuts), and as an encore, gives a sense of the eldar as a race in terms of their haughty attitude.
And a reminder, the BFG trailer was put out while the game was still in development.
>>47706771
Take a Stormraven, then. Grav Chutes and Power Lances are great fun.
