Arms and armorConquistador edition
>>47656994
Sexy
The period after the middle ages and before Louis XIV popularized wearing ridiculous powdered wigs was the best looking in history.
>>47657380
I want to create a setting based on the Spanish colonial South-west, with native mythology and Christianity playing a large part of the 'magic' and being the source of the more fantastic creatures and monsters. Also I too love the pre-powdered wig era.
>>47657557
Nice!
I've been thinking about doing something later in the Southwest too.
>>47657197
thats a Roundhead, not a conquistador!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMEnBHef96c
>>47661248
>30 years war
Why the fuck do people like this? I was a horrible war with awful protostants that could be described as the end of the middle ages (or at least the rise of nation states).
Like hey likes celabrate the end of fun and magic in the world. Man, Martin Luther ruined everything for everyone forever
anyone have some messer/kriegsmesser?
>>47656931
I have a question for you, /tg/.
I know the Falx had a reputation for fucking up Roman Segmentata armour. My question is, if forged using era-appropriate methods and with the average steel quality of the age, how would it fair against your standard suit of plate-armour?
Basically, would pic related do anything to something like >>47660095 ?
>>47662423
what was the serrated edge used for? dont usually see those one weapons which arent also used as tools
>>47662455
>Basically, would pic related do anything to something like
I'm no expert, but based on what little I know, I'd say probably not.
Considering how much stronger plate armour would be, and how it's purposefully built for deflecting sword blows, I doubt your falx would be able to penetrate it.
>>47662455
I'd suspect that it seldom did a number on the Romans by going straight through segmentata or hamata, rather they found some way around things, thought good old blunt trauma may have played some part.
Against plate armour things would probably be much the same, with attacks straight at the armour generally not getting very far, though you might be able to knock someone around with a really heavy hit to the head, strikes to the hands may crush fingers between gauntlet lames and whatever it's holding, etc.
>>47662469
Might be a hunting sword, with the serrated spine being for whatever sawing needs you come across.
>>47656931
Did soldiers in the medieval period ever paint or mark their weapons as a way of personalising them?
>>47662222Iris?
>>47662608
While I could certainly imagine such happening, I can't think of any examples of common soldiers tarting up their weapons on their own.
OP here, thanks for keeping this thread alive guys
>>47662647
putting stuff on polearms maybe?
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>>47662679
That blade's got to weight a ton with no fuller in it. Looks like it's only been half-finished.
>>47662709
Wouldn't there be some armour to cover the inner thighs and the wedding tackle?
>>47662673
We see tassels, velvet, etched and gilt monograms, etc as it is, so I can certainly imagine someone of lesser means adding charms, mementos or decorations on his own. (Tassels may have served a practical fucntion of keeping fluids from running down the shaft, in which case a lost one would probably have resulted in a field repair, such as just tying a piece of fabric around the shaft where it sat.)
Once again though, I haven't seen anything such. Closest I know of are some Japanese blades with painted-on magical charms, which could of course have been done by a priest of some sort, but various koryu also appear to have taught their students such esoteric religious/magical practices, so the owner could have done it himself too.
>>47662720
Maille leggings, probably
>>47662608
Remember that real soldiers didn't actually use their weapons all the freaking time. They weren't MMO characters sitting around in Stormwind and showing off their pimped out gear.
Also, weapons broke and got worn out, or abandoned, lost, replaced etc.
I think the average soldier would have gotten nicer clothes if he wanted to show off or make an impression, you don't pull chicks by pinstriping your halberd or whatever.
>>47662696
messers doesn't have fullers all the time, especially the shorter ones. Then again a distal taper could help a lot with the weight problem.
>>47662423
>>47662552
>>47662570
>>47662602
>>47662616
>>47662657
>>47662669
>>47662679
thanks
how come messer look so damn sexy?
>>47662696
I suspect it's quite thin overall.
>>47662720
The horse and saddle take care of that. Though he may also want to keep a mail skirt or so around, because that's quite a lot of space between cuisses and faulds I think.
Suit made more primarily as infantry armour (English mostly) can have inner thigh plates and either faulds going down a lot furtehr, or a combination of somewhat mroe extensive faulds and tassets.
>>47662132
Because its an amazing period if you're interested in tactics and wargaming. It was the last war in which heavily armor cavalry fought, and ranged cavalry was still common. The interaction of pike and shot and cavalry is great.
No one is all that interested in what happened after Nordlingen, when it became a true clusterfuck, anyway. All the famous battles like White Mountain, Breitenfeld, Lutzen, etc, were in the first half. But even the later period is interesting if you like cavalry. It is one of the rare cases of Western European armies sometimes consisting of majority light cavalry.
>>47662696
Falchions and messers are often exceptionally thin. That one looks like a fuller would just punch a hole right through it.
>>47662747
It's why I asked. The only historical evidence I could find of them pimping out their gear was in clothes and little personal touches on armour. Even mercenaries with giant erection-simulating codpieces didn't have the means or desire to paint and recoat their weapons while at war, it seems.
How popular were falchions compared to arming swords throughout the medieval period? You usually don't seem them as much in art and media, but I feel like they were probably at least as common.
>>47662974
They're relatively rare as surviving specimens (once we slide into the 16th century things get a lot better there), and not terribly common in art either, so the safe bet to em seems to be that they were less popular than your basic, symmetric, double edged sword.
Nailing it down with much more precision than that may prove somewhat difficult, though there is one guy who drops by occasionally who may be in a position to provide at least an informed guess.
>>47662469
>what was the serrated edge used for?
Same use as on survival/tactical knifes - cutting ropes.
>>47662941
Closest thing we got are some scattered comments in roman texts about how pimped out gear is more cost-efficient than plain gear because the soldiers are less likely to lose it and will take better care of it as well.
Which wouldn't be much of a factor during the middle ages and early modern period when arms generally were either private property or were aquired on lease from the dude who hired you for this particular war.
>>47662780
Because the messer is sexyness itself in sidearm-form?
>>47662974
>How popular were falchions compared to arming swords throughout the medieval period? You usually don't seem them as much in art and media, but I feel like they were probably at least as common.
quite the opposite.
there's a vast gulf between the surviving numbers from archaeology, and those in art.
from studies I did, approximately 20% of medieval art contains at least one depiction of a falchion. Surviving numbers? far, far below 1% of all surviving medieval swords.
clear reasons for this disparity are hard to really nail down. My person suspicion is that there is a degree of religious symbolism going on. the sword is referred to again and again in biblical texts (psalms, gospels, etc), and in the writings of biblical scholars (Clement of Alexandria, John of Salisbury, etc.) as "the two-edged sword" - more often than "the sword". Combined with Peter Johnsson's theories on the nature of the medival sword and relation to the use of geometry, it may well be that the single-edged sword was for a long time considered profane, or un-christian. That's backed up in art, where we see it in the hands of sinners, roman soldiers, and, most tellingly, in the hands of muslims in depictions of the crusades, even though islamic swords were straight-bladed. The curved, one-edged sword is often (not always) a metaphor, a visual shorthand for the un-christian.
In all, I personally suspect that only maybe 1 in 50 swords were single edged at most. possibly as few as 1 in 200.
>>47663547
I assumed it had more to do with it being a lower class weapon. Similar to how we have very few examples of cheap men-at-arms armor in the archaeological record, simply because it wasn't kept well or was recycled.
>>47662696
Several types of messer have no fullers at all, and are still lightweight.
:^)
>>47663547
That, and also distastefully low class, and easily associated with the lower class, commoner soldier. And people HATED those guys.
They were the figure people fearfully imagined raping and pillaging their town, because it would be them doing most of it.
Vicious men, men without honor, beasts, almost.
In practice some Knights were real bastards too, but if you were going to be making propaganda or otherwise advertising the IDEAL of how the Knight was better than his henchmen, well, you'd clearly play it to the hilt, how chivalrous looking you were and every little feature of your expensive looking kit.
Which would include that type of sword.
It's an obvious symbol when it's potentially more expensive than all the equipment the ordinary soldier has together and maybe even his horse too, if he has one.
>>47663589
if something was effective but for the lower classes then after one or two decades the pimped up version appeared for higher classes.
Or the pimped up version was toned down for lower classes.
So being for the lower class on it's own wouldn't guarantee much.
What would be a good armor to travel in for long periods of time?
>>47663654
There are a decent number of pimped falchions, just not as many as arming swords.
I imagine it's a mix of cultural and utility reasons, but I doubt they were quite as rare as they appear to be in art.
>>47663661
No armor. Take that shit off if you aren't expecting a fight.
>>47663616
Luckily I already had a doctor's appointment booked for tomorrow morning.
>>47663661
Padded garments and maybe a light mail vest stitched into a padded garment.
>>47663589
most of the evidence indicates that many of the falchions were very high-class weapons - inlay, enamelling, gilding and heraldry, and similar embellishments.
there's no evidence to support the "low-class" theory of them.
One element may be the confusion with the messer, which *did* start off as a lower-class item, the Bauernwehr, before it became more commonplace in the mid-15th C and rose up in social standing till by the end of the century, even royalty were given messers as gifts.
Messers, likewise were far more common than falchions - we have less than 40 surviving falchions worldwide, we literally have hundreds or even thousands of messer, tesak, and bauernwehr blades, and it seems to have been a much more culturally popular weapon in the central european states - the kingdom of Hungary, Bohemia, Austria. The Falchion, in general, is more a western european weapon - France, Italy, England, some of the low countries, and a bit of Germany.
>>47662696
as an indicator of how light even a large messer can be, without a fuller, this example is a 80cm blade, 105cm overall, based on an original., whole thing weighs 880g - less than 2lbs, moves like quicksilver, and cuts like hell.
>>47663661
doesn't matter as long as you have a horse.
If not and you have to carry all the shit then obviously various textile armours would be the most comfy choice, but personally I wouldn't go above half-plate and that also greatly stretching it for longer travels as you also have to carry various other shits.
So if you don't have a horse either textile armour and/or a breastplate, may or may not a helmet/skullcap too
>>47663635
>That, and also distastefully low class, and easily associated with the lower class, commoner soldier. And people HATED those guys.
there's absolutely no evidence that associates them to lower-classes in period. Victorian era? 20th C? Modern? yes. Actual period documentation which indicates the single-edged arms are associated with lower social classes?
none. And the body of archaeological evidence - swords of tenure presented to bishops, etc, contradicts that.
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>>47663730
Alright, thanks
Have a tarkus
>>47663744
I would also question the rest of the post. symbolism in the everyday life wasn't that big a thing as far as I know, and most of written sources about warfare and the lords suggest that everyone knew that everybody was a gigantic asshole if it come to war and related matters.
Like, cannibalism happened if you walked into the wrong village, or dozens of women drown if the leader of the army thought they are a nuisance.
>>47663661
helmet plus breastplate or mail shirt with minimal padding, quilted armor is hot af.
PS, mail without major padding does kinda such at protecting you from a lot of shit.
>>47663818
Is that a really derived bollock dagger, or a spear head?
>>47663910
bollock dagger
>>47663818
I admit making a mistaken educated guess about what people associated this or that design with, but I'm talking propaganda here. Yeah, a lot of people really were assholes and you expected it, but if you are thinking about how you portray yourself, that's different.
The ideal knight existed in literature at least, and even if they were totally taking the piss or being completely insincere, people associated themselves with that prestige and image.
More than one king and/or court was NUTS about the stuff. So even if it was just being fashionable or paying lip service so the king like d you more, the imagery of being a knight in shining armor was a thing people aspired to.
If nothing else having fucking manners in court and not being a dick mattered quite a bit, as did the perception that you were loyal and brave.
Although these were always important, even before this particular flowery brand of Chivalry associated with literature and chansons and stuff came into fashion.
I also really think some people really bought it, even if they were arguably naive or unrealistic. Don Quixote is obviously an extreme figure, but there were probably people that leaned that way, and more than one King went down swinging when it was completely stupid for them to even be taking the field, not to mention completely unnecessary.
John of Bohemia died at Crecy, and he couldn't even really make it into the fight without being physically tied to his two most trusted men on either side of him, because he was blind. He didn't have to do that at all, and yet he did, and got praise for it.
>>47664008
>The ideal knight existed in literature at least, and even if they were totally taking the piss or being completely insincere, people associated themselves with that prestige and image.
yeah, victorian literature mostly if you mean the stereotypical knight we all know today.
But here is an interesting read for you, with tons of written sources about how war went back in the day, although I admit most if it is about the era where knights were already obsolete
>>47664008
>>47664276
I seem to remember one of my History of Literature profs told us that once courtly love and other clichés about knights were very mainstream, new knights who grew up reading that literature took it as truth and tried to fit the ideal.
Though this could be only the case for France, since this class was about French literature. Could make sense, because courtly love was a thing in France some time before it was exported to England, and probably elsewhere.
>>47664388
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>>47663521
Would they go into battles with all that stuff on, or was that just for tournaments?
>>47664388
Many of the troubadours were themselves knights. Very popular in France, especially Occitania.
>>47665039
The armour itself could have been worn to battle I'm not entirely certain about the crest, but probably that too.
>>47662608
Weapons? probably not. I think they found a painted shield at Visby. Some people probably painted their stuff. People get bored and it was probably up to whether the person could or wanted to. It's like helmet art from Vietnam.
>>47656931
>Conquistador edition
Thats an Englishman you fucking pratt
>>47657380
Early Modern, Baroque Era or the Age of Enlightenment will help you find more pics.
>>47657557
Not too hard. Already exists.
>>47662455
> fucking up Roman Segmentata armour
Except 1: Segmentata was actually fairly rare, with the vast amount of men wearing hamata and squamata (maille and scale), and 2: It was shit against armour.
What made the falx effective was striking the sword arm and leading leg behind the scutum.
To defeat this, they simply issued manica (maille or segmented plate arm armour) and a greave for the leading leg. Pic related
Its a light farming too like a scythe. Its a shit weapon, and didn't last long in historic use. It didn't do shit against armour then, and wouldn't no matter what you make it from.
>>47662608
>>47662647
I have a few pics somewhere of low-quailty engravings obviously done by the owner. Usually religious in nature. Crosses. INRI. ect. I'll see if i can find them.
>>47665106
Tessak is a word of slavic, most likely Czech origin, meaning "fang" or "tusk" or in more general "curved tooth". As far as I can tell, it became associate with a particular type of saber during Hussite wars...
>>47664388
It's a pity the only book I have on the subject is focused on the change from the medieval art, culture and world view in France and the Netherlands to the Renaissance view.
>>47667811
>Already Exist.
It's some expansion of Aquelarre than I don't know or any other game?
>>47668690
>Aquelarre
Never heard of it.
D&D 3.x, WHFRP, LotFP and more all have similar splats. Not ragging on it, as its a fucking awesome concept. Check out the meso/new world fantasy threads we've been having pretty regularly for the past few months. The archives are full of them. pic related
>>47665039
It depends on the crest. There's nothing stopping you from just using a plaster crest, because it will harmlessly get knocked off/shatter while fighting?
Special helmets with built-in metal horns and such? Never.
>>47663648
Any more info on this armor? It's a beauty.
>>47674182It's in my porn folder
>>47674398
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>>47674417
Gorgeous. RIS says it's at the Met?
>>47674443
Yep. Got it from a met picture folder. Glorious Italian armor. Simple yet dashing.
>>47662631
mel?
Does anyone have any examples of Viking swords, or reproductions thereof?
I need a good picture of a greatsword, for reasons.
>>47676091
Your requests are either two requests or a request for a modern fantasy sword.
>>47676102
What?
Did the Vikings not make two-handed swords?
>>47676126
I don't think you know what a great sword is and what it was used for.
And no, vikings did not make two handed swords.
Most viking weapons were made by scandinavian blacksmiths.
>>47676139
Huh, okay.
Did they make any swords at all, then?
>>47676158
nope, they used pool noodles
>>47676139
Actually there is a very large amount of scholarship exploring the international weapons trade during the Viking age.
A very large portion of the swords mad ein Europe were produced in a handful of specialised production centres, and then exported across the continent. The area around Solingen ,in the Rhineland was the largest and most famous production centre. The famous "ulfberht" blades that are usually associated with the Vikings (due to being excavated in Viking contexts) were atually made here, as with the other major "brands" of Ingelrii and Gicelin.
Very often the balds would be exported, and then the hilt and cross-guard would be fitted by another group of specialists in the local style. For example in London there were hilt-makers who bought in Frankish blades and then put Anglo-Saxon style fittings.Swords are the most studied example of this system, but the pattern also holds true for maille, spears and many other peices of wargear.
It's very possible that certain regional styles such as the single-edged blades used in the 8-10th by Scandinavians were locally made although stil by professional weapon smiths, but to say that most weapons were the produce of local blacksmiths is frankly wrong.
>>47676126
And no, the Vikings never used two-handed swords.
>>47676225
Huh, fascinating. Why did they import their gear, the iron back home no good or something?
>>47676225
You are correct, I am definitely not informed on the subject. I didn't specify swords, but I am not informed of whether they crafted their ax heads and spear heads locally either. I just wanted to correct the person for misusing the term "vikings" to refer to the whole northern region of europe at that time, instead of just raiders trying to make wealth and fame.
>>47676258
Sorry. Would it have been better if I'd said Norse? That was my second guess.
>>47676275
Yeah. I mean, we both know what you mean, but "vikings making swords" just sounds pretty silly. Norsemen were vikings in the same sense as you could say you are a lawyer. Just a way to make money and fame.
>>47676126
The pre XII-century (i think, but it might be also XI or XIII) ferrous metallurgy was too pisspoor to make blades long enough for two handers. And that's including what is today called bastard swords, because they were actually meant to be used with both hands, not "choose your stance" weapons.
>>47676225
Jesus Christ the amount of typos I spewed out there.
Here is a picture of the Witham Sword as pennance. This is my favourite Viking-period sword and was found in Lincolnshire. The hilt is a Wheeler Type VI, which was an Anglo-Danish style dating roughly from c.950-c.1050. The cross-guard had sheet silver applied to it, with diamonds of inset copper.
There is a blade inscription reading "+LEUTLRIT" (although the last "T" is actually upside down), which likely refers to the maker which is a common feature of swords in this period. Overall length is 91.5cm, with a blade of 77.8cm, which is quite average.
>>47676254
It's the same reason you buy cars from the big manufacturers rather than something made in a garden shed. There was an awful of lot of locally smelted and worked iron in the Early Middle Ages, but it was mostly used by blacksmiths to make tools and the like.
Weapon-crafting, especially sword-making, is a specialised trade which demands a dedicated professional to produce a quality product. It's hardly unqiue to weapon-making, throughout history specialised trades tend to cluster in one area.
>>47676316
And I of course forget the actual picture.
>>47676339
Yeah, that's what I had in mind. The narrow crossguard and the distinctive pommel.
Wasn't there a batch of those that someone found that were made out of Wootz steel? I recall reading about it somewhere.
>>47676498
I think there was one Ulfberht that was probably made from Wootz, although I don't have any details.
Although Wootz, Damascus and pattern-welding tend to get conflated in some sources. I think part of the confusion is that for several centuries pattern-welding only way to forge swords of a decent length in Europe until single-piece forging reappears in the 9/10thC.
Part of the other problem is that the Ulfberht swords are felt to be "special" in some way and therefore they "must" all be Wootz or whatever which is not quite what the evidence actually says.
The picture is a modifed version of Petersens typology, which is the seminal work on Norwegian hilt styles. There is a mixture of native Norwegian styles (eg.H) and Frankish/pan-European styles on exported blades (eg.X). Due to this focus it excludes most uniquely Danish or English styles with the exception of "L" which is the most famous English hilt of the Middle Saxon period.
>>47676498
>Wasn't there a batch of those that someone found that were made out of Wootz steel?
There are pattern-weld blades around, though I think the art was being phased out in Europe around the 9th century. The high time of pattern-welding in the archeological record apparently was the 7th century.
A frankish blade made of indian steel would be a treasure of global relevance for sure though.
>>47676665
No, just looked it up, they were pattern-welded.
My bad, sorry.
>>47676665
While the case for Wootz might be a bit shaky, there were robust trades links between Northern Europe and India or Central Asia.
The main source of garnets, which were heavily used in pagan/conversion era Anglo-Saxon jewellry, was Shri Lanka. A Buddha statue was discovered in the Swedish Viking settlement of Birka.
Central Asia was one of the main sources of silks, and a number of extant fragments of brocaded silks with distinctive Central Asia designs survive.
While it's true that a large portion of the medieval population never ventured far from home, a significant amount of people who had the means and inclination to travel could roam very far indeed.
>>47676339
Are there any recorded items of these sorts of swords with like Norse knotwork designs on them, or did they not do that?
>>47677812
I wouldn't quite describe it as knotwork, but a few swords such as this Ulfberht from Ireland (9thC) have scrollwork on them.
The most common form of Viking-age decoration were very fine incisions on the guard or pommel that had silver, gold or latten wire inset.
>>47664276
>>47664388
Yeah, that's true. Legends and romances like the ones about Arthur were hugely popular. You see sevaral tournaments named things like "the round table" and stuff like that at least as far back as the early/mid 13th century.
So the whole fictional, idealized version of the Knight ended up actually influencing medieval knights, and mythology and stories continued to be very popular themes for tournaments.
You see a lot of showmanship mentioned, like Anthony of Luxemburg arriving chained in a mock castle, and requiring the ladies attending to free him with a golden key before he could particip
"Courtly love" and the romanticized idea of chivalry was not just some victorian invention, it was very much a medieval conceit that featured a lot as entertainment for the nobility. Not to imply knights were particularly virtuous in wartime as a general thing, just that they really liked playing the part when there was a party and tournament on, and you see it as a theme in stories around the time of the first crusade.
>>47678101
>You see a lot of showmanship mentioned, like Anthony of Luxemburg arriving chained in a mock castle, and requiring the ladies attending to free him with a golden key before he could participate.
Eh, that just sounds like a bondage/domination fetishist who's trying to get by in a pre-industrial society.
>>47664276
Read through that the other day. Good yeah, but the only war in that book that could be considered to have "knights" was the Italian Wars, and that's because French Gendarmerie were basically late period knights, though officially organized by the state.
>>47676307
Form what I can tell the metal quality doesn't start moving anywhere really until the 14th-15th, and even then it isn't a big jump, more of a gradual slide. And making a greatsword of sorts out of a Viking sword would simply be a matter of a longer hilt. So the absence of such weapons earlier on may be more about the shield than the iron.
>>47676498
Crucible steel is to have been found at least. Pulad, aka wootz, needs a pattern to it, which this steel might not have had. It remains a rarity though. Funnily enough these blades may not be "real" Ulfberths, but amongst the knockoffs.
Some forget their pics, I forget my post...
>>47677812
Not the best photo perhaps, but we do appear to have a bit of rune stone-like coiling something here (silver and copper over iron).
>>47678101
>stuff like that at least as far back as the early/mid 13th century.
The first real wave of Arthur-mania was in the 12thC. Geoffrey of Monmouth made Arthur a "historical" figure in his "History of the Kings of Britain", and presented him in a way that appealed to contemporary Anglo-French culture.
From there you have writers such as Thomas of Britain, Gottfried von Strassberg and especially Chretien de Troyes use the material to make Arthur and the Knights into chivalric heroes of the chansons de geste. This is also where elements such as the Grail and Lancelot first make appearances as the welsh folk hero gets fused with the French chivalry literature.
By the 3rd quarter of the 12thC, Arthurian tales were the pop-culture sensation of the day. This was the heyday of chivalry and audiences lapped it up. When Glastonbury Abbey burned down and they needed some quick cash the monks "find" Arthur and Guinevere's tombs which brings in tourists by the cartload.
These were stories about knights, written by knights for knights, and it follows a long tradition of pseudo/folk history being adapted into chivalry poems.
Who's that artist who was trying to produce a catalogue of arms, armour, clothing and jewellery forms and styles throughout the entire timeline and all the cultures of the Middle Earth Mythos?
What examples of his work I've seen reminded me superficially of the works of John Blanche because of the warm pallette and watercolour-and-inks sort of style.
As for pattern welding, we should keep in mind that while it ceased being fashionable in the, uhm, mid to late Viking period or so, this does not mean that swords started to be made out of anything resembling modern day "monosteel". In many case,s what happened was msotly that blades where polished a bright white, instead of polished and etched to bring out whatever pattern there may be, and most likely a s a result the abandonment of the more artistic bending and twisting of the material.
Etching a non-pattern welded medieval or renaissance blade can bring out quite a lot.
As for kinda Viking styled twohanders.
And a more historically correct repro just for the hell of it.
You may also find some eye-candy over at http://templ.net/english/weapons-antiquity_and_early_middle_age.php
>>47678443
That's pretty sweet, how do they make that checkered pattern?
>>47678499
The base iron is scoured with a chisel or such, and then strips of whatever metal you want to overlay with (usually copper, silver or gold) are pressed onto it, before being burnished to appear as a single sheet with an unbroken surface. The chequering would just be a matter of using shorter bits of overlay metal.
A form of overlay decoration that runs somewhat along the same lines, but seldom covers the entire surface, is "koftgari" work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIBpSBVDca4
OP here, good job you guys. You kept this thread alive
>>47678795
Arms and Armour threads seem to be a bit hit & miss these days.It seems to be a roulette whether they get replies and discussion or just left to die.
>>47679419
I blame waifu fags
>>47679419
pretty much depends on the time of the day / timezone. Also if the regulars are lurking at /tg/ or not at the time
I just got my copy of "The Puukko" by Anssi Ruusuvouri and the german translation stinks. It's apparently based on the autor's own english translation, but it got fucked up all the same.
They constantly translate "computer-generated" as "computer-supported" and made other wierd choices that make the thing read like something a twelve-year old wrote for class..
