Post old artworks. Masters like Frazetta, Smith, Elmore, Whelan etc
Covers also welcome, doesn't have to be clean art.
>>47576455
that is one swag skelly
>>47579391
How old is old? I've got some of Yoshitaka Amano's artwork from his Elric stuff.
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>>47579326
They kind of look like a sword and sorcery Roman legion
>>47579445
I remember Howe saying he doesn't like this piece.
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>>47576391
Adrian Smith still makes art, I wouldn't exactly call him old.
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>>47581528
>cultist offering a maggot
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>>47581754
Is that Adrian Smith Conan?
>>47581785
yeah
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>>47581806
Cool, had no idea he did a Conan series.
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>>47581874
I love Lord Soth, riding in to fuck your shit forever.
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>>47581974
Is this some drug use metaphor?
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>>47581991
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF just realized that technically Sci-Fi
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>>47581596
he looks like he's screaming boo
great thread btw
>>47582005
Don't worry. Sci-Fi and fantasy have always been intertwined
>>47582016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiMQioILCGI
How old are the masters we're talking about here btw?
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>>47582155
Not sure what op had in mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEsmxJvgcjU
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>>47582437
>liking the sword
>listening to uninspired, pseudo-doom
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>>47582471
Ehh, to each his own music snob.
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>>47582814
Dat blonde.
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>>47582860
Well shit I don't think that ones all that old, whoops
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>>47582394
Isn't that a Manowar album cover?
>>47583241
Yes
>>47583025
Ah, the good ol days when man and woman could quest half naked together and no one ever made anything of it
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>>47583498
Fuck, thats newer too, need to turn on a light or some shit.
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>>47583582
FUCK wrong pic
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>>47582471
I'd hardly call the Sword pseudo-doom. It's much more of a hard rock/stoner metal setup. Age of Winters, Apocryphon, and High Country are all fantastic albums which exemplefy their skill. Hardly uninspiring.
You're also a faggot for posting a reaction image in an art thread. But maybe I'm just over-reacting in defense of a favorite band of mine.
>>47583653
I don't know what happened in the 2000s, but it was catastrophic. I remember being appalled by the garbage in the D&D 3e books.
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>>47583782
Yeah, I dunno, I can't dig the 3e art. 2e is worth getting for the art if you can get it cheap in my opinion.
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>>47583782
This >>47581948 is 5e art.
Adrian Smith still puts out consistently good new art.
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>>47583956
Shit didn't notice I clicked that.
>>47582115
I always loved this pic. Anyone know where it's from?
>>47584383
I really like that pic too.
Mind if I save it?
How did fantasy art become so bland nowadays?
>>47583839
Wayne Reynolds happened, mostly. 3.x exploded because it sort of rode this hunger for "realistic" adventure, and representations of adventurers loaded down with bags of gear and spiky angles. Pic isn't on-topic but shows the stark differences between older art.
He wasn't the only one; Wizards also brought in artists like Brom (of Planescape fame). In hindsight you can see there was a very conscious attempt to distance the art of the new editions from everything that came before, for better or for worse.
I also think the whole OGL thing played into it too - it opened the door for lots of third party publishing and thus less centralization of the defining look of a fantasy RPG.
Plus at the same time you also had the maturation of World of Warcraft as the sort of de facto fantasy video game representative, with huge pauldrons and exaggerated proportions that fit right in with the 3.x aesthetic (Warcraft certainly was around for longer, but not really as an RPG representative). Contrast the Warcraft look with earlier Gold Box games, or heck even within the same company Diablo I and II look very different.
>>47584748
Wayne 'needs more belts' Reynolds
World of Pauldroncraft
>>47584748
Arbitrary demands from people who don't actually buy fantasy anything.
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>>47584748
The other big shift which was a greater application of modern multimedia techniques (facilitated partly by the introduction of digital layout programs like Indesign).
You'll notice the pic in >>47584795 deliberately has no background, which makes it perfect for immersing into the middle of a page to break up a column of text. In prior books art would often be full page spreads if in colour. Art pieces might scroll across the header, footer, or margins, but these would be usually black and white and of lower quality than the colour spreads.
>>47584802
To his credit Wayne puts his best foot forward.
>>47584795
Diablo started off as a different team. Hell, a different company, they were bought up by Blizzard. That's why it didn't look like Warcraft, but it does now.
I don't know how I'd describe 2000s shit other than "comic book" sort of look. Doesn't look real at all, but also doesn't look fantastical. Worst of both worlds. Classic stuff often was both.
Here's classic Brom, who is actually better known for his Dark Sun covers, of which this is one. The devs came up with shit based on the art he sent in. These guys use their bell as a psychic focus to attack travelers in their sleep, then sneak in to their camp and devour their essence (good ol AD&D2e permanent stat drain).
>>47584816
This is another case of conflating SJW cause and effect. I recall an interview with Monte Cook at http://montecook.livejournal.com/150303.html where he actually talks about this.
It's the artists and developers working on 3.x who were the most vocal about diversity. Marketing and sales at WoTC understood their core demographic to be white males, so they wanted a typically white male and forced the inclusion of the Human Fighter Regdar into the lineup of iconics. The artists responded by mostly depicting him in really bad situations - most Regdar art shows him dead or dying; he has the fewest heroic moments of all the iconics.
There's no SJW boogeymen here, just artists with a particular agenda going against marketing.
>>47584622
Are you trying to cuck me?
>>47584829
This seems like the answer to me. For a while the style was new and exciting I'm sure, but in hindsight it just looks trash and faddy
>>47579326
>lvl9fighterandfollowers.jpg
>>47584993
There's also some truth to the "diversity agenda" claim, although again like the link in >>47584957 points out this was a conscious decision by the developers rather than pressure by marketing (if anything, the marketing and sales people wanted the opposite).
From the livejournal link:
>So, when D&D was bought by WotC and we started working on 3E, we really felt that this was a time when we could break this mold. We worked with the artists to create iconic characters of different ethnicities (both in appearance and in name) and with equal representation of male and female.
Sue me if you want, but I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with that sentiment either.
I don't think there's anything wrong with having a burly black fighter or middle eastern wizard, but combined with all the other baggage 3.x artists were reacting to (characters with grecian anatomies, real-world armour and clothing, scantily clad ladies, lavish narrative backgrounds, basically everything posted in this thread) this resulted in a sort of hideous mishmash without any real lasting power.
3.x's Mialee is a perfect example of this - a contrarian reaction to all the typical elf stereotypes that just ends up looking hideous. You can almost see the thought process going on: "our elves need to be really alien and should seem unearthly and not conform to human standards of beauty," an attempt at gritty and realistic fantasy that doesn't conform to visual stereotyping - a laudable attitude, but one that sort of undermines a lot of the folkloric structure that fantasy draws it's foundation from.
>>47585184
>this shit is the best that Wizards of the Coast could come up with
It would have been better if they had gotten Drew Tucker to illustrate every single 3e book. At least it would have been interesting.
>>47582654
is this actually old? not calling you a liar i'm just curious if it is because it looks very digital.
>>47585240
The blame for this one lies solely on the artists. The irony of course is that the marketing people at Wizards were the ones trying to drag in conventional stereotypes as much as possible.
>>47585258
Ehh, not sure. When I'm trying to pick these out I'm squinting through 6-7 year old glasses in the dark.
>>47582437
Hobbit flesh tastes best.
Requesting the picture in the style of >>47581596
with the one dead soldier and the other living soldier facing down the Ogre with the huge hammer in the snowy mountains
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>>47576455
Looks like a Grateful Dead album cover. Groovy.
>>47580868
>Go on! Shoo! Get out of my castle, dragon! Shoo!
>>47581754
/fit/ vs /fa/
>>47576391
>Elmore
>master
God damn. The man makes Wayne Reynolds look like a master - there isn't a single piece of Elmore art that isn't shit outside of his cartoons.
>>47582757
>sideboob
>high-cut panties
80s-90s fantasy art was a miracle of the universe.
>>47582763
My girl Tiana!
>>47576391
That's /lit/ not /tg/. You just ganked an elric of melnibone book cover
>>47590528
"bbc" is basically white.
>>47590647
http://www.amazon.com/Elric-Melnibone-Core-Rulebook-Runequest/dp/1905850131
Educate yourself, drone.
>>47590667
That's the paladin from Diablo II m8.
He's not white.
>>47590840
Well he is white in the artwork, the one you posted he is at least half.
This thread is making me torrent and re-watch Ralph Bakshi's LotR adaptation for the first time since I was a kid. Also gonna watch FIre and Ice for the first time.
Goddamn I loves me some retro fantasy.
>>47583481
No matter what happens next that mage is gonna die.
Have some Conan.
>>47590927
I still love Bakshi's LotR
>>47590940
That's a necromancer, not a mage. Has no one here played D2?
Anyway, there's a good chance he'll survive. Diablo looks distracted, as if he's spotted the amazon behind the pillar. He'll probably just drop the necromancer and go and investigate. At that moment the niggerdin will arrive a bust a cap in his ass.
>>47590787
God, all the things wrong with this picture.
>light from the front - except on the dragons scales
>elf wizard standing in in a completely different time zone than the drow and the barbarian by their shadows
>drow is lookign at audience, not her oppnent
>what are you doing with that sword, barbarian bimbo?
>Which way is the goddamn thing pointing?
>giant and troll must be illusions because they cast no shadows at all
>oh wait, it's high noon, except for that light source everyone is being blasted by from audience direction!
>halfling thief right out there in front
>dwarf hiding behind the rogue
>red dragon sitting there, being ignored by everyone and not eating everyone alive
>HOW THE FUCK DO ELVEN LEGS WORK?
>fearful archer is fearful even though the giant is clearly ignoring him
>why is the archer even in this picture at all? He should be shooting from far away!
Yes, Elmore, a master artist with a true genius for composition.
And don't get me started on that fucking kender thief with her spilling gems.
>>47591004
>red dragon sitting there, being ignored by everyone and not eating everyone alive
i'll give you most of the other stuff but i'm guessing maybe it has something to do with the tall-headed robe dude controlling it or something
>>47577831
Fun Anon fact: my first time experiencing 40k was seeing this tattoo'd on a fat dudes back, as a small child.
>>47591156
No wonder you're here.
>>47591121
He ain't controlling anything - he's not looking at hot elf. No idea what he's actually lookign at, because his eyes are way off to the side, but he's clearly not paying attention to anything important, like the battle happening not 20' away.
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>>47591004
You guys do know that's the box art for Everquest, right? It's comped so the elf is the front cover.
I know its tumblr but this is an awesome site for all sorts of D & D esque art http://meanwhilebackinthedungeon.tumblr.com/. Also for those who want something physical , you can get art book called "Worlds of TSR" for like 20-30 on amazon I think
Oh, yes.
>>47585184
I don't think that the real issue is that Mialee is intended to look "alien" (which is fine by me desu, I hate fantasy races that are just humans with one or two physical characteristics changed), it's that regardless of their intent, it's a bad piece of art either way.
tl;dr: good idea, crap exection
I wonder if I'm the only one actually loving Wayne. His battle scenes expecially.
>>47591804
You can like an artist, but still resent it if their work/and or style saturates the medium.
>>47591004
I love this board.
>>47582005
That crab's mouth is comically out of place
>>47593915
Heh, it really is.
>>47585954
Title: The Real Reason the Romans Left Britain
Artist: Daniel Horne
Subject: Kostchtchie vs. two Romans in a snowy field in Britton
Used as the cover art for Dragon Magazine #119.
Unfortunately, I can't find a better version than this with a quick Google-fu.
>>47590048
Not only do I agree with you, I love that Giger piece.
>>47582005
I feel dirty for laughing at this
Hell yeah, AD&D complete druid handbook
>>47583656
No, he's gay af.
>>47591004
well, that's not representative for his works though
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>>47595125
>never having played shadowrun
gtfo
>inb4 this is not right or that is poorly drawn
it has sparked the fantasy of legions of roleplayers which is more than any of you faggots will ever do. now out
>>47591156
That isn't 40k, faggot.
>>47597916
Yes, it is.
Lighting errors, bad composition, and stupid scenarios are all representative of his art.
"I know, the thief can't tie a knot so the gems she just stole are spilling out in the middle of the room while she climbs up a rope to nowhere. Uh, I need more shadows, I'll put them here, no one will notice."
>>47598034
>unbroken windows
>bullets from out of the blue sky!
>what kind of sky is that?
>I'll stand out in the open instead of firing from behind cover!
>I'll stand out in the open too!
>I'll go around the car where the bullets are instead of around the back and come up from behind the wall where they can't shoot me!
>I'll follow that guy, because I'm stupid too!
He's shit.
>>47598210
>implying good game art must be free from technical errors or must withstand close logical scrutiny
see, this is why you'll never earn as much as larry elmore, artwise. what's the next thing? a good movie must be strictly realistic? lel
>>47598281
bait. but still.
>why should corporate city center windows be broken?
>bullets come from off-screen
>exaggggggerated city sky
>what is surprise? what are reflex boosters?
>what is partial cover? what is an ambush?
you're full of it, anon.
your brains = fried
>>47583782
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Warcraft
Destroyed "fantasy" on a fundamental level.
