>Race of fungus people
>They are a hive mind
>>47479685
>there is a church that vaguely resembles the Roman catholic
>turns out it is corrupt and evil
>>47479685
I think we've reached a point where Mushroom men are ALMOST as Fantasy standard as Dwarves and Elves.
>>47479685
>The witch the smalltownsfolk were going to burn at the stake was a misunderstood mage surrounded by closedminded hicks
>The goblins are only doing X because they have to in order to survive
>The city's government is a front, and is really controlled by dueling crime families
>The princess secretly knows how to fight
>The monarch's consul pulls all the strings
>Bait and switch evil mcguffin to generic lolcthulloo eldritch horrors
>>47479685
>No one is evil, just misunderstood, and you're the bad guy for punishing them.
>>47479685
>OP has a concept
>thinks it's good
CAN'T WAKE UP
>>47479742
I know right, it's fantasy, why not give us a church that's actually good for once?
>>47479767
That's completely untrue.
>>47479685
>Inspired by Dark Souls
>>47479908
>Bait and switch evil mcguffin to generic lolcthulloo eldritch horrors
Of all the things posted in this thread, this is the most offensive
>>47480178
>Political intrigue
>Inspired by game of thrones
>>47480178
>inspired by [meme vidya of the week]!
>it's a [(not)Place] setting!
>inspired by GoT!
>inspired by """history""" {you know, the class you failed twice?}
>inspired by [capeshit]
>transhumanism/"hard" scifi
>it's a Nordic setting!
>it's a Celtic setting!
>it's a Russian setting!
>it's a sandbox!
>it's narrative!
>it's political intrigue!
>I did "extensive" """research""" for this game!
>mfw my fantasy setting falls into none of these
>Kill things, miraculously solve everything.
>>47480254
Shit man what isn't offensive to you
>>47480178
>Bloodborne comes out
"Hey guys I've got this wild idea, I'm going to run a setting based on bloodborne!"
>DSII comes out
"Hey guys I've got this wild idea, I'm going to run a setting based on dark souls!"
I mean jesus christ I like those properties too, but there is a line between learning from the thematic elements of a piece and just straight up fanfic bandwagon games.
>>47480254
>it's a Russian setting
>Baba Yaga is the central character
>you know how Russian culture and history literally revolve around Baba Yaga right
>everything else is just generic nordic with some slav names here and there
>>47480254
I do research for all my characters. It never comes up in game, I just do it for me
>fantasy game
>SURPRISE, IT'S BEEN SCIFI ALL ALONG!
>scifi game
>SURPRISE, YOU'RE STRANDED ON A MEDIEVAL BACKWATER AND ALL OF YOUR TECH IS USELESS!
>nonhumans commit genocide
>nonhumans dindu nuffing
>humans defend themselves
>humans are the real evil guys
>nonhuman race
>better than humans
>Everyone is racist against the poor, oppressed orcs.
>>47480471
>play it the exact opposite.
>Turns out they are truly evil little shits.
>humans are the youngest and most versatile race.
>>47480016
Their is one already, it's the Church of Iomedae.
>>47480389
I don't mind that so long as the idea isn't a carbon copy of the setting.
For example GM had an idea based on DS3 where the players all play epic level hero's returned from the dead by some unknown force. There will be an over arching plot, but the main theme is the players figuring out what the hell happened to there legacies while they were dead. A part from the similarities between the lords of cinder and the PC's there won't be much in common with DS3
>>47480605
I don't really know where the fuck this comes from but I hate it.
In my setting the oldest race are the nature spirits (fae), and when the humans show up, ONE of them (a demigod) tries to overcome the natural forces of the world, and in response the fae shape some of their kind into human shapes in order to create a warrior caste to combat the first humans, and this caste was the elves.
The elves are the versatile young race, and they have trouble forming communities because now that their initial purpose is moot, they really don't have much else in the way of greater meaning.
>>47479767
What games are you playing where fungus people are common, and how can I join? One of my favorite races, and they won't be there if I don't put them there.
>>47480639
No, I often find that just cribbing most of it for your own setting while not doing a carbon copy is just as bad, if not worse. There is a fine line between taking inspiration and pretty much just using the exact themes and core conceits while just renaming things and throwing in your own fanfiction, but when it IS the latter, it's obvious, lazy, and often feels disingenuous in the same way you might find a chinese knockoff action figure of NEWEST MARVEL MOVIE HERO.
>Wench turns out to be succubi
>Dragons are good
>Elves are nature bound
>BBEG wants to live forever
>Every planet consists of only one topographical feature
>Technology is basically magic
>Every alien race is humanoid
>Humans have something special about them in any setting sci-fi or fantasy.
>In sci-fi greedy corporation doesn't understand monster threat.
>"Celtic Inspired"
>Vague mish-mash of hippy druid bullshit and vague Irishness
>tfw no Buggane hunting in the moors
>tfw no shitting yourself when the Bugganes start throwing their heads at you
>tfw you need to get these trousers back to the monks
>The NPCs who work for [Authority] betray the players at the end of the adventure
>inspired by JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
>>47480627
>Keeps sentient races as slaves
>good
pick one
>>47480781
>inspired by:
>Steven Universe
>Rick and Morty
>Gravity Falls
>Adventure Time
>>47480781
This holy shit, JoJofags are just one step above fetish posters in terms of awfulness
>>47479742
I actually kinda pulled a reversal of this once. A Lancae et Sanctum Nossie turned out to be a Pretty Good Guy and a pillar of his community... aside from needing blood every now and then but he never took from anyone who couldn't handle a point or two of lethal.
>>47480799
>Rick and Morty
I don't see what the huge issue with that would be, so long as they aren't being hyper derivative. I've also never seen it before.
The rest I have seen, and yes they were all cancer.
>lazy Aztec anything
>>47480781
JoJo is fun to read and watch, but I think playing it would be like playing wizards who only know one spell.
>>47480254
>it's an Eastern European setting!
Code word for "I just skimmed Wikipedia and saw this SICK ASS three headed dragon! Baba Yaga? Yeah she's the BBEG, all of their legends revolve around her. Wait, there's more than just Slavs in east Europe? Uh, don't vampires come from there? This is getting kinda boring...LETS THROW IN ELVES, DWARVES, AND HOBBITS! Yuck, a Leshi? Sounds weird. OK, I think reading 2 children's fairytale has given me a comprehensive understanding of eastern legends and culture."
>>47479685
>elves and dwarves are Tolkien-inspired
>dwarves are chiefly Scottish
>anything Tolkien-inspied in general
>big evil demon overlord tries to destroy/take over the world for the bazillionth time just because he's eeeeevuuuuul
>slapping a carbon copy of X irl culture in the game
>with a tweest
>>47480443Undertale?
>>47479767
Kill me now.
>>47481078warcraft
>>47480471
The video game tome4 takes this to a hilarious extreme. In the backstory, there were like three mass exterminations of the orcs. In the default campaign, you destroy their civilization AGAIN, and this time for no real reason. Two non-orc wizards manipulated the orc clans through wizard trickery to help them put together their world-destroyin' device. The notes you find indicate that the orcs were starting to wise up to them, but you just kill them and take all their stuff anyway.
The halflings in that setting are also literally nazis.
>>47480736
Yes. Except for dragons. I like dragons.
>>47480443
Ya, fuck you. Shit taste.
>>47479685
>Overused ideas
>Race of fungus people
>The Royal Family is as inbreeded as the deepest southern family
Worst part is that is fucking shit actually happen
Wait, does this even count?!
>rock and roll bards
And no one ever does the concept justice.
>BBEG has access to literally everything
>BBEGs henchmen are everywhere and always watching you
>BBEGs henchmen know everything and anything
OR
>Quest giver knows everything and anything
>Quest giver is the heir to some long lost kingdom or something
>female soldiers wear chainmail bikinis
>fight effectively, have notable armor scores
>male soldiers wear chainmail loin cloths
>fight effectively, DM looks smug because he totally flipped it on it's head lol
Either way, it is fucking dumb
>>47481192
>And no one ever does the concept justice
Coming off of this
>Morality is super gray and no one is ever right or wrong
Some times a bandit is just a bandit. There does not need to be a deeper story behind it.
>i work out my latent racism through my setting where humans are perfect special snowflakes and every other player race is intentionally gimped or hated so badly in the setting they're functionally unplayable but I still offer them to punish people i think are objectively inferior for playing pretend as something other than shit sucking human peasant
Stop it, all of you.
If I wanted to reread The Turner Diaries, I'd just do that.
>>47480781
Is it that overused?
>>47480389
>>47481243
You should see the vidya side of it. Its fucking cringe worthy.
I remember I was in a Stellaris thread and people were asking for a mod to remove all blacks from the game
and woman
Its honestly laughable
>>47481078
you know the silly thing is that Tolkien had his dorfs be middle eastern/ Jewish hence the joke about no dorf women. Just think bro Ottoman dorfs or mugahal dorfs or Ethiopian dorfs
>>47480732
I'm not the guy you're talking to, but I'm sorry that their ways of having fun are not to your personal tastes, Anon.
>>47480876
Jojo is shit and you are shit.
>The player is a big bitch baby nerd who is too jaded to enjoy things after searching it for insignificant, arbitrary details that are part of their infinite list of sperg-triggers
>>47480736
>BBEG wants to live forever
Nigga you tellin me if you lived in a world where magic and wonder were real and everywhere that you wouldn't want to have plenty of time to explore it? I agree that its kinda lazy to have that be their only motivation for doing really extreme evil in a "serious" game of [whatever], though.
>>47480821
When I DM I never bring up that I'm getting this or that idea from JoJo (then again, I don't crib from anything all that much) and my players never seem to complain, even when they catch me.
I could see a game that was literally trying to be JoJo as pretty traumatic, though, definitely.
>>47481303
he definately had his dwarves inspired by Jews (hence the no women jokeand their greediness) but people emphasized their Scottish side so much, they kinda missed the point of them and mistook it as their most defining feature.
We've finally reached the point where JoJo is like the new MLP. People who haven't even watched this show fucking hate it lol. I actually really like JJBA, but I'm glad that we're at this phase of the meme cycle because for a while there I was reeeaaal tired of seeing it on here.
>>47480254
>>it's a Russian setting!
People do this?
Where can I find them? I'd love to do a campaign based on Slavic culture and mythology.
>>47481415
It bums me out because we're finally at the best part and now it's cool to hate on JoJo, if the hate had come in Part5 it would have been perfect
>>47479685
Name 3 settings that do this dumb notfrogposter
>>47481415
No, it's people who've read and seen it who recognize that it's overrated shit that's as retarded as its fans are, which is an incredible level of retardation.
It almost reaches Baki levels of stupid.
>>47481501
Nice opinion, have any more?
>>47481501
Factually false, it's people reacting negatively towards the fanbase assuming it's terrible because of the circlejerks. Fanbase reflecting badly on the thing they like.
That's the way of 4chan, something becomes too popular and it immediatelly becomes shit, happens all the time in /v/, less frequently on other boards
>>47481501
Now, this might come as a shock, but did you know every single base has a number if circlejerking assholes in it? Is everything shit then, anon?
>>47481398
yep, spot on. for me i like on the idea of highly religious dorfs, who live as minorities in human lands as goldsmiths and merchants yet deeply resent the humans and trolls they live alongside and retain the old language and part of there customs.
>>47481548
The art is atrocious, especially for an action manga. You can barely make out what's happening in any scene, and the faces are hideous. The exaggerated proportions and poses are done with less of a sense of style, and more of just general ineptitude as an artist that the guy tries to drown out with excessive detailing.
The character designs are likewise terrible, ranging from BDSM dungeon rejects to BDSM dungeon rejects in ill-fitting street clothes.
>>47481556
Jojo is hardly "popular", it just has a few dedicated shitposters attached to it.
>>47481636
Mmhm, any more?
>>47481273
This is probably the worst thing to happen to tg since quest threads
>>47481701
why are quests threads bad?
>>47481649
There you go trying to diminish its popularity while claiming that the only people who could possibly enjoy it are shitposters.
Remember when that happened to Undertale?
>>47480736
>greedy corporation (that's a tautology btw) doesn't understand [thing]
That's not an overused cliche, that's just how things work.
That's like complaining a setting's gravity works like it does IRL.
>>47481713
Realistically, most corporations are aware when they do something hazardous or immoral, they just don't care.
When corporations do stupid shit that actually costs them profits, it's a lot rarer.
>>47480208
>mfw I'm doing this
>mfw all my players are first timers
>mfw they'll be interested/surprised, just like they have been with every other shitty overused trope I've trotted out, because they don't know any better
>>47481707
They shit up the board with low quality "roleplaying," encourage cross board traffic because of dumb shit like Animu quest and generally are a waste of space
>>47481273
I want that Smough
>>47481728
Yet at the same time without them we'd have the same amount of traffic /lgby/ or /vp/ have, slow as fuck boards
>>47480975
who hurt u?
>>47481649
They sell Jojo shit at the FYE near where I live. I could care less about whether or not you like the show, but if it's so unpopular why is there merch available in commercial outlets, fucboi? You tellin me merchants try to sell shit that isn't popular?
>>47481667
The battles are poorly scripted and rely on logic that has no relation to anything you can find in a rational universe, the plot is a mess that's clearly the result of a stressed mangaka making shit up as he goes along, the characters are universally unlikable and are basically an assembled cast of unfunny jokes, and the drama is so hamfisted and the humor so bland that you spend more time laughing at all the momenta except the times the author wants you to laught.
>>47481757
If the quest board is any indication, the quest posters are but a small fraction of tg posters who take up a disproportionate amount of board space
>>47481636
Opinions, opinions, opinions, all asserted as fact. Were you touched by a muscleman as a child or something? I don't get why you have such a hateboner for a TV show anon.
>>47481303
ahhhhhh this makes me happy. I'm gonna switch my Dwarves to fuckin Hindu merchants and shit. Just the culture i was looking for
>>47481816
Mughals are Muslims, not Hindus.
>>47480781
What makes Jojo's Bizarre Adventure fun is the creative ways the characters use their abilities, in my opinion. If you're just going to go "le stand oraoraora xD" your way through every encounter, then what's the point?
>>47481802
Why are you such a contrarian faggot? Not even that guy but holy shit are you this smug in real life? No wonder you watch that shit, you have to find something to distract you from the loneliness induced by your insufferability
>>47481712
There are some Jojo fans that aren't shitposters. Like the people who post in the SSS and try to keep the topic on actually working on incorporating the setting into games.
But then there's the faggots like yourself who have some bizarre need to exaggerate how popular it is, likely because you realize that it is shit and that you need to try and establish it as something other than mediocre so you can spam about the show on a traditional games board without people telling you to fuck off and die.
>>47481793
Okay, cool, what else?
>>47481802
They're all asserted as opinions, dimwit.
And, none of those opinions are particularly rare.
>>47479685
Oh yeah? How many times has that come up during play for you, then?
What about orcs or goblins? How many times have they?
>>47481876
Its fans are retarded and have poor taste, and tend to lack any sort of strategy when arguing.
>>47479908
You know, I really want to go with the princess who secretly doesn't know how to fight.
>"THEY'RE STAGED! The alchemist drugs them and the court mage throws them around while I play the crowd! Father was trying to sway his generals to declare me heir apparent and ignore my uncle's meat-head son! I've never held a real sword in my life!. I EMBROIDER FOR GOD'S SAKE!"
I feel like the people who violently dislike JoJo are the same sperglords who cry about realism in fantasy and haven't watched a single episode or read a single chapter, getting all their information secondhand from excited fans and get butthurt when they aren't immediately in on everything first, so get offended.
>>47480781
I've never seen a JoJo inspired game. Can you give any examples?
>>47481931
And I feel like you're pretty shit at damage control.
>>47481931
Same people who hate Undertale just because, same people who hate anything just because:
They see people having fun, they're not in on the joke, the joke must be shit then
>>47481902
There's no point to arguing because you've already made up your mind. I know it, you know it, everyone in this thread knows it. Just keep stroking yourself off and watch some superior patrician anime.
>>47481940
Did I hurt your feelings, anon?
>>47481954
Why do you keep bringing up pancakes?i only enjoyed it so much because he second half of 2015 had NOTHING ELSE in terms of games
>>47481955
>Anime
>Patrician
>>47481954
I've played Undertale, and I don't hate it, but I get why some people don't like it. It just didn't appeal to me. From the art style to the characters to the gameplay. I just couldn't get into it, and still don't really get the hype.
>>47479742
>and they fuck little boys
>>47481974
Didn't Witcher 3 come out during that time?
>>47481955
The only thing that needs to be said is that JoJo fans act retarded and spam their shit when they should leave that in /a/.
Just because /a/ makes fun of you for being retards does not mean that you should run to other boards just to have the people there also call you retards. At least pretend you're not just being retarded spamming faggots, and go through the effort that the SSS guys go through to actually develop the shit setting into something playable, even if it's a lost cause and relies on a fanbase with abnormally shit taste.
>>47482001
That was March, wasn't it? More than six months apart.
>>47480443
Has Warcraft ever treated Humanity at large as evil?
All I remember is them making certain individual humans into villains for being assholes.
Meanwhile the orc Hitler is the end-expansion raid boss.
>>47482010
This is an /a/tier or /v/tier kind of opinion.
He's reporting the thread because he's angry.
>>47482010
This is a reasonable opinion.
He lives and lets live.
>>47482017
May, it seems. I thought it was more recent since the last dlc comes out at the end of the month
>>47482049
I can't imagine who else you were supposed to quote in that post but I agree with the guy you quoted twice
>>47482049
Those are the same opinion, Anon.
>>47482049
Hows that DiD working out anon?
>>47479908
Damn... I didn't even know some of these were tropes and some of these are hitting too close to home on my next project:
>The goblins are only doing X because they have to in order to survive
Forced lumber gathering efforts encroaching on goblin territory and leading to clashes.
>The city's government is a front, and is really controlled by dueling crime families
Not really a front, but the criminal underworld do have some sway.
>The princess secretly knows how to fight
Female (or Male) lead (so prince or princess) has the option of being a competent fighter depending on the readers choices.
>Bait and switch evil mcguffin to generic lolcthulloo eldritch horrors
No bait and switch, but one of the paths involves Cthulhu-esque themes of insanity.
>the town old drunk/retired grandpa is secretly
Nope, fucking stop.
Not every story needs the blast from the past character who is secretly something TOTALLY BADASS GUYZ.
Every fucking campaign, even in ones that do not make sense.
>>47481119
Me first.
>>47481157
>In the default campaign, you destroy their civilization AGAIN, and this time for no real reason.
Uh how about the fucking fact that they turned their women into giant mounds of tits and labias so they could spew out infinity orc spawn and wage a genocidal war against all mankind?
if ever it was warranted to destroy an orc civilization, this was it. You virtually can't go anywhere or do anything on the second continent without very, very powerful mixed groups of orcs coming for you continuously.
Fucking orcish defense force
>>47480736
I did one where the BBEG already could live forever, but he was sick of it and wanted to die.
>>47479742
Why exactly should they be better than they are IRL?
>>47479767
No, we've reached a point where devil-like people are ALMOST as fantasy standard as dwarves and elves.
>you questgiver betrays you and you are lamb to the slaughter
>>47480397
Why is it Baba Yaga too? There is an actual fucking lich in russian myth that nobody ever touches.
>>47481243
5th edition D&D?
>>47479908
>but she's actually doing terrible shit, but doesn't understand normal morals because of her upbringing
>but it's still evil as fuck, and they're regretful but resolute
Got nothing for that.
>but she really only thinks she does, because she's vain and stupid and actually a terrible fighter
>and the king lets him because he's a better leader
Nothing.
>>47482175
Koschei the Deathless?
>>47482175
Technically baba yaga is a lich too.
Its portrait as a hag or a witch in the modern times, but original myth implies she is dead and live in her coffin.
Word of advice - if you do slavic setting make noneuclidian geometry traps and puzzles. They are everywhere in the folklore.
>>47482112
The first one is only shitty if the DM (or writer, in this case, I guess) tries to use it as leverage to make the players feel shitty.
>This group which has acted like nothing but murderous bastards for the duration of the story are totally sympathetic guys. Don't you feel shitty for killing them indiscriminately?!
The second one is anon being salty. If there are powerful crime operations happening then they're going to have sway over government personnel at some level. Bribing cops, getting their bros into positions of power, stuff like that are all part of what makes building a large crime syndicate possible. If they didn't have sway over local government then they'd just get stomped out like all the other street trash.
Third is only annoying if used as a 'gotcha!' like case one.
Fourth is fine as long as you can handle writing it. Most of the issue is people aren't any good at writing it.
>>47482212
>side quest for squat techniques
>each mastery gives +5 to trap solving
>>47480254
>>transhumanism/"hard" scifi
I was rolling with you until here. I don't care how hard it is to do, it is a great idea provided players can get into the mindset.
>>47482208
Pretty sure that's the one. Very overcomplicated method of storing his phylactery.
>>47482212
I also have advice for slavic settings.
Wait a ten or so sessions into your campaign.
Have your players raid/attack some massive stronghold or fortress.
In the deepest, strongest treasure room, have a sack.
A non-descript, empty burlap sack with a slight aura of magic.
Watch the eyes of that one player, you know the one, the guy who goes out of his way to read lore in his spare time, watch his eyes light up.
He takes the bag as his share of the loot, and does nothing with it for the entire game.
Until, approaching the BBEG, who I will just assume is Lich Ivan the Terrible, your player runs into front of the party, and shouts the magic words.
CLICKY CLACK, GET INTO MY SACK!
>>47482128
You can just walk right to the other side of those encounters and escape.
Though this may be slightly difficult for characters who don't take the prodigy that gives infinite instantaneous movement.
>>47481157
To be fair, it does pretty repeatedly point out that the orcs are responsible for their fair share of vile fuckery and mass murder, and when you go to destroy their civilization (yes, *again*), they are close to succeeding in their goal of annihilating a rival human/elvish civilization.
Halflings absolutely are vile little shits, though.Yeeks master race
>>47482128
The orc breeding pits have been removed from the game.
>>47482135
Fuck, I did that too. He was trying to break a curse.
>>47482273
My mythology boner is diamonds.
>>47481078
The worst part is how much Tolkien-inspired stuff is totally unlike Tolkien.
>>47481759
The world, comrade...
>>47482334
>death's face when he is stuck in your magic sack
>>47481336
This. A disappointing thread for /tg/. I'm not used to this level of cynicism and whining.
>>47479742
>>47480016
Have you tried playing Dragon Quest?
>>47482311
But the coolest guy to ever live was an orc.
>>47482311
>The orc breeding pits have been removed from the game.
The fuck? Why?
>>47482601
Some tumblrinas whined.
>>47482652
Its easier to remove tumblrinas than orc breeding pit.
>>47482302
>You can just walk right to the other side of those encounters and escape.
Not everyone can.
>>47482311
Well thank God, but they still give you an idea why destroying the orcs was for the good of the world and a mercy killing. Because, fuck, even if no other incarnation of orcs was a pestilence upon the world, these were.
So now that the breeding pits were removed for triggering feefees, do you still have to deal with an infinite tidal wave of FUCK or what?
>>47482652
>>47482670
the word tumblrina is almost as annoying as the 12 year old cunts from tumblr it refers to
>>47482683
>Not everyone can.
With how important mobility is in tome4, it should at least be manageable. Shouldn't everyone have a good movement infusion + an item that activates for speed by then?
>magic and technology are opposed, and don't function around each other
>This is the empire of good guys, the emperor is loved by all. Every noble, soldier, and civilian agrees with everything the emperor does and says, especially his thoughts on MODERN DAY ISSUE which just happens to be the same as the GM's
>This is the evil empire. Every single person in the evil empire loves kicking puppies and murder. Also, they hate the emperor's stance on MODERN DAY ISSUE.
>They are locked in a perpetual war that only the players can influence, despite being low level dorks. The players are, of course, all in the good empire's employ.
Anyone who worldbuilds like this needs to stop. Seen it way too much.
>>47480016
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, ALL CHURCHES ARE GOOD!
>>47479685
Innocent and common-sense interpretation of how fungus works
>>47479742
Edgy 18-19 year olds
>>47479908
>The witch the smalltownsfolk were going to burn at the stake was a misunderstood mage surrounded by closedminded hicks
Pissy wand jockey's who get angry that people don't let them shoot fire-balls every 3 steps so they make a quest around mages being misunderstood, projecting their own insecurities about a class which has become rabidly disliked because of the over-powered bullshit Wizards of the Coast made them into.
>The goblins are only doing X because they have to in order to survive
Generic morality decision based quest.
>The city's government is a front, and is really controlled by dueling crime families
What everyone is already thinking anyway (if you base your campaign around the idea that this is supposed to be a surprise, you're an idiot)
>The princess secretly knows how to fight
Usually leftist pieces of shit trying to mock of "break" what they see as the "typical fantasy standard" even though princesses are royalty and would rarely have any need to know how to fight, and ontop of this you could've just made a female fighter in the first place instead of trying to impress everyone with your mental disabilities that you perceive as "being clever."
>The monarch's consul pulls all the strings
Again, see the one above the princess.
>Bait and switch evil mcguffin to generic lolcthulloo eldritch horrors
95% of the time mishandled, where they think that just making the creatures gross-looking will make them spooky.
>>47483321
I really don't see a problem with teaching all royalty combat abilities. In any world that has:
1. Goasts
2. Boojums
3. Bogans
4. Bogeymen
5. Boojaboos
6. Changelings
7. Doppelgangers
8. Spooky shit of any kind
9. Sneaky shit of any kind
10. Magic shit of any kind
There's little reason to not teach ye princess how to fight.
>>47483168
9/10 rage inducing.
All it needs to be 10/10 is to switch the 'good empire' with 'good kingdom'. Because Empires are always evil and Kingdoms are usually Good
>>47483364
This really. Especially given how so many monsters like to kidnap female nobility. Which, honestly, I find is a much more tiring trope.
The Skeleton Fag is just bitching about the "tuff girl" archetype.
>>47481816
actually, Mughals are muslims. But you could take a look their caste systems for a better idea
>>47481458
I played a Russian setting. The biggest threats to the party was biting cold and a giant bear stalking them.
Did I do good?
>>47481205
"Tipped on its head"
Like pic related didn't happen way before chainmail bikinis
>>47480660
Dave?
>>47482358
10/10, I don't know whether to congratulate you for the bait or strangle you to death for your ignorance.
>>47480471
>>47483628
>>47483372
Most of the guys I used to play with had a roman empire permaboner, so it was always a good empire. Kingdoms were never a thing and I hated it. So boring.
>>47481724
No such thing as a shitty overused trope.
There's just boards full of assholes on the internet who are so smug and jaded that they're not worth playing an rpg with.
Evidence? Every fucking post in this thread.
>>47483643
this looks really interesting, what happens next?
>>47483996
the orc rapes her obviously
>>47480660
It came from Tolkien, dude. The Elves were the First Children of Illuvitar, destined to be succeeded by Men.
>>47481309
They're allowed to do what they want and I don't have a problem with them being allowed to do that. I just think their taste is trite. This is a thread about opinion, and that's mine.
For somebody who's trying to wave around the "stop liking what I don't like" stick in the wrong court, you sure seem pretty upset about my opinion being seemingly different than yours.
>The BBEG swindles you
Come on.
>>47479685
>werewolves in the settings
>they're discriminated against because they're okay with being furries instead of trying to cure themselves
>hunting them is EVIIIIIIIIL
Man, I love werewolves but they're always shit in D&D.
>>47482273
>just fucking giving them the sack
>not making them earn it by giving it secretly to the most virtuous, unlucky character
Could be better desu
>>47483583
You seem upset, but he's right. Where's the lie?
>>47484117
let me guess, if there were monsters that say 'good' in the MM like werebears and gold dragons it'd be ok?
>>47484146
Nah, it has to be something that cater to the DM's furry fetish.
>>47483996
>>47484020
IIRC, the conflict gets gradually smoothed over, not without a little help from the food they're making. Things are still kind of tense at the end, but the hostility is lessened. That mangaka is actually really good with that stuff, I recommend you read it for yourself.
>>47484117
In my setting they're not evil, but they transform by moonlight and become completely savage beasts. None of this on demand furry shit. One case of a good werewolf, was the mayor of a silver mining town. Every full moon, he would go out into the desert and sit himself on a box full of silver ingots, so that when he transformed he was instantly incapacitated.
>>47480016
Because power corrupts, and churches usually have a lot of power
>>47484190
And the settings I had the unfortune to play, either they live in the forest and are perfectly fine with being werewolves (like druids), or they can magically control themselves and only control criminals.
Because apparently it's okay to murder criminaks even when death penalty isn't a thing.
>>47480254
So like, do you play PnP at all or just sit in a room alone so nothing triggers you?
>trabshumanism/"hard"scifi
Best scifi there is, subhuman scum
>russian setting
Slave mythology best mythology
>it's a [(not)Place] setting!
Literally 90% of RPGs out there
>inspired by """history""" {you know, the class you failed twice?}
stop beaing a autist
>>47484197
And are also insular which makes corruption even more likely to occur.
>>47484217
>Slave mythology best mythology
You miswrote Egyptian but I forgive you.
>>47484230
sorry, bud, i'll fix it
>slave egyptian is best egyptian
>>47484230
nah, slav is beter for dark fantasy, i like dark fantasy, plus the egyptian names give me a headache and i can never remember more than 2-3 gods at a time becasue of it
>>47484248
>egyptian names give me a headache
HAHAHA FAGGOT
>>47484217
Fuck did not notice that i wrote slave instead of slav, slav myhology best mythology
>>47484207
Yeah, one of my players wanted to DM and he pulled the same shit. They were the friendly and misunderstood werebears who sequestered themselves to the woods. And kidknapped the party and stripped and tied us up in a dungeon full of corpses and after we escaped the dungeon, asked us to help them fix some curse that's making them "rabid". I would have told him to go fuck himself, but the lead werebear was described as "an exceedingly tall middle aged woman" so my dick overpowered me.
>>47484049
>BBEG literally tells you that you should kick his butt
>>47484258
>"Hey, I know we tried to kill you"
>"but we need your help"
>"pretty please?"
>>47480254
Found the /v/edditor
>>47479685
>>47479742
>there is a race of fungus people
>they vaguely resemble the Roman catholic church
>>47481801
Yes, 8% is so fucking massive, you utter faggot.
>>47484303
shit nigga, this is going into my next campaing
>>47484303
>Shapeshifters are native american based
>>47484373
>shapeshifters are "the jews" give me a fucking break lol edgy
>shapeshifters are the white people because ermagerd master race give me a fucking break
>shapeshifters are black people LOL real original asshole
>any race can be shapeshifters real fucking clever genius, "it was inside you the whole time" fucking kill yourself
Getting really tired of this tired hackneyed bullshit
>>47481736
A guy in my office bought the thing purely for the Ornstein and Smough miniatures. He uses minis in the DnD campaign he's running.
"You enter the chamber and see [places miniatures]."
>... I run away?
"Mist wall."
>>47482785
So, is it any good game then? How does it compare to say Nethack?
>>47484186
What's the name of the series, please?
>>47480428
I would kill for a Might & Magic setting.
>>47480781
I am convinced that the only possible way to get players to use their stands creatively in a Jojo game is to run it as a variant of time wizards.
>>47482785
Quite a few people have virtually never talked to anyone ever about the game. I have almost never seen it discussed in /vg/ for example.
>>47484493
Its okay. The problem is that not all chartypes are created equal -- and that some require drastically more keypresses than others. For example, the archmage is unbelievably powerful, but requires a baffling amount of keypresses.
>>47482231
>>47479908
>The goblins are only doing X because they have to in order to survive
For the last D&D game I was in, it worked out pretty well because it was something that gave my paladin an immediate, noble, and plot relevant goal. Wanting to stop the genocide of the goblins is what got her into a lot of the local politics and conflicts.
>>47484523
Just take Greyhawk and add d20 Future to it.
>>47484528
Thanks, I think I'll take a look at it then!
>>47484493
It differs from most roguelikes in that:
1. No item destruction
2. Inscriptions and infusions replace potions and scrolls -- they operate on cooldown and you can only have 3-5 or so of them at once
3. Difficulty starts low and rapidly ramps up
>>47482010
Sounds like the fan base if One Punch Man.
At least when it comes down to annoy other boards.
>>47484600
fan base of*
>>47480660
>fae shape some of their kind into human shape to create a warrior caste to combat the first humans
>this caste was the elves
>young versatile antisocial warrior race of elves
>has nothing to do with elves
>but its elves
In case people didn't get the idea, slapping generic fantasy terms onto random shit is an overused idea that can piss me off a bit
>>47479742
It's either that,or a vaguely pagan/satanic religion that will offend noone.
Nobody will ever make Muslims or Jews the "evil" religion in anything unless they actually want to be politically incorrect
>>47484186
loved the manga even if it gets really instructional and looks like any run of the mill fantasy setting. pretty much because author's incredibly savvy with the tropes and managed to give interesting, unique twists into something generic. plus, it's one of the only manga to have its main characters to make a cookbook out of monsters
>>47484515
dungeon meshi
>>47485002
Thanks, anon!
>>47485002
Ahah, this is a really lovely series!
>>47480254
>it's a [(not)Place] setting!
Hold the fuck up. I don't want to sit through five hours of exposition before I can get into a fantasy culture. Shorthand explanations are more than acceptable.
>>47484248
How many slavic gods do you remember?
>>47479908
>The goblins are only doing X because they have to in order to survive
well why else would they do anything? They're hunter gatherers, they do things to survive and for fun, that's the long and short of their motivations.
>>47484433
I think that's about the only reason to get it is the fuckton of plastic. Game itself looks like solid shit
>>47481192
>Metal bards
And also
>People who listen to metal in real life
It's always the kind of people who call themselves nerds, like it's some badge of pride.
>>47484530
It sounds like your DM just stole the plot of snuff to be frank, except snuff was probobly better because pratchett
>>47485236
ech, perun, swiatowid, Rod, swaróg, trzygłów, dadźbóg, and jarowit off the top of my head
It's a /tg/ is /v/ for a day episode
>>47485299
>tfw slav and remember only Svarog, Perun and Veles
>>47485408
only reason i remember them is that i have a bunch of pagans having meetings clouse to me, they are a bunch of bloody nationalists and i hate them but one guy is chill and into RPGs so i talk to him from time to time. Fucker knows his slav mythology
>>47480471
How is this any worse than
>Orcs are 100% pure, extra virgin evil for no reason at all
>>47479685
>Adventurers do fetch mission for some dude
>Apparently dude is evil and needed the item to control the world or something
>Adventurers fight against evil dude and win
>>47485408
>tfw only remember those three because of STALKER: Call of Pripyat
>>47480605
>humans are the physical strongest race
>rest are gnomes, kender, goblins etc
>>47481243
>overused ideas
That seemed awfully specific.
>>47484419
>shapeshifters are people
Awful
>>47482238
>Very overcomplicated method of storing his phylactery.
IIRC, his life was in an egg, that was in a duck, in a treasure chest, buried under a tree, on a deserted island - and I'm probably forgetting...
>fuck, checked it out, the duck was in an hare and there was a needle in the egg.
>FUCKING RUSSIANS, HOW DO YOU EVEN
>>47481293
To be fair, in Stellaris the most effective way to win is to just enslave and/or purge any other races in your empire, so wanting mods to create a literal nazi empire would actually be viable and fit the way you usually end up playing.
Then again, that's because Stellaris is a very incomplete game.
>>47486288
By my memory his life was in an egg, in a duck, in a hare, in a chest, under a tree, on an island. The hero was able to destroy Koschei because he had befriended a dog that caught the hare, a hawk that caught the duck, and a fish that retrieved the egg.
>>47481303
Runequest has wide selection of dwarfs.
>>47482212
She also has a bone leg by some of descriptions.
>>47485238
But they are EVIL! EEEEEEEEEVIIIIIIILL!!!
>>47484947
There's a reason for that. Context is everything - Islam and Judaism both have histories of serious real-world prejudice against them in Western countries. Catholicism is doing fine, enough that most people don't even remember it used to be hated Statesdie, and so is acceptable to make a villain out of because everyone will understand that you either don't really mean it, or are merely criticizing its legitimate problems. On the other hand, Satanism or whatever isn't seen as a legitimate religion in the first place, so it's just fine as a target for the same reason as Hitler is.
Basically, people like keeping politics out of their games unless it's the point of the game. So things that are relevant political issues will be kept out so that nobody gets their panties in a twist.
>>47487588
The elves are badass too.
And halflings are literally craftsmen who learn skills quickly instead of super nice and brave dickass thieves.
>>47487731
I meant Stateside but that was a pretty good typo.
>>47482212
>original myth
How far in origin? Because she also was warrior and not evil at all.
>>47487731
This. I hate faggots that try to bring contemporary politics into the game other than for pure laughs. If you're going to try and do some real world inspired stuff, there's like a 25 year buffer.
>>47482699
get over it, you tumblrina
>empire is evil
>rebels are good
>The setting has a single Human Kingdom in the plains, Elven Kingdom in a gigantic forest, Dwarven Kingdom in the only existing mountain range and Orc Kingdom/Horde coming from the west/south
>Dwarves are all bara faggots, and Elves are all traps
>Dwarves are all cheap, gruff, unsociable and arrogant, while Elves are flamboyant, air-headed, gay and arrogant
>The Stuck-up Mage get's put in place by Manly Fighter/Paladin Who's Totally Not Clint Eastwood
ITT: People who don't understand fantasy is rooted in Jungian archetypes and the Heroic Monomyth
I really hope most of you are just being sarcastic for the sake of sarcasm and aren't actually this embittered.
>The Capitalist is evil and only cares about money
>Industry is evil and we should totally stop the industrial revolution
>Guns are bad
>>47488165
>ITT: Long overdue reaction against liberal SJW garbage-tier thinkers, like Jung, Campbell, and other "critical" theorist kikes.
>>47488165
If you go by Jung, EVERYTHING is rooted in archetypes, though, and at a certain level of abstraction literally anything can be made to correlate with the monomyth. Actually, how are you supposed to pull off a HERO'S journey in an RPG when you should be concerned with the HEROES' journey, if you catch my drift?
>>47488165
>people are bored of seeing the same thing over and over
>GUYS SOME SWISS CUNT WROTE A LOAD OF NONSENSE, YOU CAN'T DISLIKE THINGS
>>47480667
>Iomedae
nice pic, sauce?
>>47488259
At a certain point you change something so much and you need to start questioning why you are even bothering to change it. You see this sort of confused thinking on /tg/ a lot in an effort to be "original".
For example, take the archetype of a Dwarf.
It could be a lot of things, but chances are you are thinking of a short, squat humanoid that lives underground and is good at things like mining and crafts and likes gold and jewels.
If you start changing these fundamental things about the archetype Dwarf, at a certain point you have basically reduced your dwarf into something essentially undwarflike. At that point, why even call it a dwarf? Why feel the need to cling to the need for the archetype?
Because, something about the archetype Dwarf resonates with people. Something that you've absorbed through culture and media has created a need for that archetype when it comes to fantasy. You can try to change it, try to come up with something completely different, try and shoehorn your own weirdo ideas into it, but it all ends up falling a little flat and smacking of trying too hard.
Most of this thread really just reads like people who take TVTropes too seriously and forget that tropes aren't really bad.
>>47488048
>>The setting has a single Human Kingdom in the plains, Elven Kingdom in a gigantic forest, Dwarven Kingdom in the only existing mountain range and Orc Kingdom/Horde coming from the west/south
Shit, that reminds me, I need somewhere for orcs to come from, thanks for the reminder
>>47488434
They come from the sky. Fully formed orcs sometimes just fall head down onto an unmanned land. They can multiply by normal means, too.
>>47481415
I don't really have a problem with it, but I also don't browse 4chan or other communities all day anymore. So I don't really feel the overexposure.
>>47480736
>something special about humanity
The alternative is jack of all trades, which is even worse.
>>47480794
>calls sapient beings "sentient"
The worst kind of cancer.
