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Actual metal bawkses edition

>Rules databases
https://mega.co.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html

>FAQs
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata

>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V7.pdf

>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

>White Dwarves
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tx4hcy4u487pv/WD

>Novels (Working link as of 02/02/2016)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
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1st for 18 sold on Ebay before GW even announced them
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Are hunter killer missiles worth to use?

also anyone want to help me to refine my army list?
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If I'm trying to flog OOP metal Tyranids and non-chinaman Kriegers, how screwed am I?
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>>47424535
In general no.

I do run them on my scout sentinels to give them some more punch when they outflank, since they're probably dead next turn anyway.
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>>47424535
They're awesome.
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>>47424523
...Why do those things have stormbolters? Wat.
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>>47424535
i heard at a tournament once someone used a bunch of hunter killer missiles to take out a unit of carnifex turn 1
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>>47424597
To protect against heretic dock workers.
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>>47424615
>Carnifex
>Tournament

"Where are we, Inquisitor?"

"The question isn't where we are, Interrogator, but WHEN we are."
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>>47424576
>>47424580
>>47424615
The thing is that im trying to build a IG+Space marine stormtroopers with 1500 points, i can do it using assault marines but people told me they are not good for deep striking, so i was thibking to do two squads of tacticals in drop pods, but i go over by 35 points so i was thinking about cutting some stuff, btw i use the hunter killers on my vets chimeras just to make them even more annoying
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Deep striking just gets you intercepted by Tau anyway.
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>>47424759
it was probably a few years back in 5th i believe
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>>47424831
Before the great poxy clips.
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>>47424597
M41 security guard. Can't bribe a servitor to look the other way, after all.
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>>47424498
Too much chicken.
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>>47424498
What would fix DE apart from just just copying and pasteing the Corsair codex w/ drugs
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>>47424923
The short answer? Give it a fairly powerful decurion. The long answer? Redo everything that has combat drugs to have a clear purpose on the table top besides just dying and then give it a fairly powerful decurion.
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So I recently picked up some models from the new Silver Tower quest game, and I was what to run them as.

It's mostly the Tzeentch stuff. I was going to run the beastmen as Possessed and the Yellow horrors as Nurglings, though I'm at a loss for what to do with the Blue horrors. Any thoughts?
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>>47424597
So you can proxy them as rhinos.
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>>47425010
How do they scale up to regular pink horrors from 40K?
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>>47424597
Emps cocaine ain't gonna protect itself.
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>>47424769
Post up a list, let's see what we're working with here. Remember, keep it readable and give us a basic idea of what you want to achieve with the list.
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>>47425028
not him but they look about the size of the older plastic pink horrors, the ones that come with the burning chariot kit
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>>47425028
They're a fair bit shorter, maybe around 2/3 the height?
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posting the list, help this faggot pls

astra
>hq-company command squad: 65p
>infantry squads, no special or heavy weapons: 100
>conscripts+commissar+priest: 140p
>veterans grenadiers with 3 melta and 3 plasma (two melta and one plasma in a squad, the opposite in the other) plus two chimeras with hunter killers and heavy stubbers: 415p
>Leman russ battle tank: 150p
>leman russ exterminator with sponsons and lascannon: 160

Spess mereens
>HQ librarian: 65p
>deathwing terminator squad: 200p
>10 tactical marines in 2 drop pods 210p

For a total of 1535
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>>47425010
Mix them into pink horror units?

Since there's no rules for splitting in 40k currently, there's only one unit they can really represent.
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>>47425064
see
>>47425102
forgot to say that the veterans have two commissars
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>>47425079
Hmmm, well I could see them being used as the named blue horrors for shits and giggles. I don't think you'd ever run those guys, but it would make for a cool modeling project
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>>47425102
This is the list you're talking about in >>47424769?
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>>47425102
Give the marines 1 squad with 10 men and a special, heavy, and combi weapon. Get em in one drop pod. Combat squad them if you want 2 5 man groups.
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Why would you nerf tankhammer?
WHY?!?
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I have 20 boyz, 7 nobz, 1 warboss, 2 metal killa kans and one not fully assembled battlewagon. 80% painted.

I thought about selling 'em. What do you think will I get for 'em?
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>>47425193
'bout 3 fiddy
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>>47425160
Also, since you're running Dangles I'm assuming you have dark vengeance so you should already have a plasma gun and cannon.
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>>47425193
Id sell that for a hundred, not much more
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>>47425209
No, but i can easily get them.
they are supposed to be shoock troopers, i was thinking that i could use a melta as special weapon and multymelta as heavy weapon.
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>>47425193
'bout a hundred dollars
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>>47425293
Melta is good for dedicated tank hunters. Plasma is good against tanks to a lesser degree but it's better than melta for killing big things that aren't tanks. Your choice depends on what you are more likely to face.

If you want really fucking good deep strikers, look at Militarum Tempestus scions. 4 special weapons in a command squad and 2 in your troops squad.
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>>47425208
>>47425253
>>47425341
Cheers, guys.
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>>47425349
i was tempted to get the scions, but there is also the fact that i already have my vets for the shoot and run, and the tacticals+terminators seems a good choice to deep strike, shoot and get some fire or fight in melee without getting wiped out

still thanks a lot, having two drop pods was quite a dumb thing to do, i will surely look into the scions in the future
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>>47424523
>>47424597
>Containers will have rules.
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what are your thoughts on the supa gatler?
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>>47425493
People will use them for Rhino conversions.
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>>47424597
the best reason I can give you (And which wil probably be the complete opposite of what the background for it will state officially) Is that the shipping containers we see on the tabletop are also used when Guard regiments are on the ground as improvised fortifications.

I mean, the Munitorum would solve the problem of supplying Guard regiments and protecting them in areas where supplies and fortifications are normaly scarce at a stroke by just throwingdown shipping containers with in-built weapon positions. After they're emptied of equipment, they're moved into position to become a crude wall a Guard regiment can defend.

I could also see Arbites using these during actions where they need to block off roads and destroy large gatherings of Mutants/ cultists/ etc. They just drive a big rig across the street in front of the advancing horde and lay into them with bolter fire.
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>>47425493
>>47425510
Their rules will be better than Rhinos.
People will convert their Rhinos into containers.
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>>47424523

>Supply Crates

Now I have an excuse to field a Ghostkeel army for fluff reasons.
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Orks used to have this little addendum that said:

A Warboss may not have both mega armour and a warbike, as he would probably fall off a lot.

God i miss orks.
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>>47424597
Oh my god they do have fucking stormbolers
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>>47424923
something that protects against 'no escape' on their vehicles.
increase mobility on their ground troops so they can actual use their speed to make up for their squishyness. This could be on their transports, or their own rules.
Improve the witches dodge rule and make them hit harder (probably done through combat drugs being better).

point reduction on a fair number of things. mandrakes incubi, etc.

Give plasma grenades to every infantry model that doesn't have them, or thing on their sergeants that makes them count as having assault grenades.

let them force nightfighting better, also later into the game. The Night Lord DoW is a good guide to this.
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>>47425703
It'd be nice to see the old style of Nightshields along with the previous version of Night-fighting as a special rule.

Have Night-fighting cut down the enemy's range drastically, and then reduce it even further with Night shields to the point where you're basically invisible on the first couple turns.
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Is the Tyranid swarm box worth $170?
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>>47425927
I miss old Night Fighting...
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>>47425932
You get a few free gaunts, which never hurts. If you can find one, the Wrath of the Hive Mind box is a better value, filled with things you can actually use too.
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>>47425932
it's not bad but you might get daunted by having to paint all those models at once. remember washes are your friend
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Does night-fighting only works during the first turn or the entire game?
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How would a Chaos Marine not content to live as a mere marauder, and wanting to strike on his own, fare?
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>>47426142
There are eight points on the star of Chaos, and each of them repersent infinite possibilities that are all horrible. I'm sure he'll find something new to do.
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>>47426091
Hell im daunted by having to finish my BA as i am shit at edge highlighting and they all look flat. What you mean washes are my friends?
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>>47426091
>tfw had to strip a few Tau and have a few boxes to open
42 Infantry models, 7 drones, 1 Crisis and 1 Ghostkeel in total and honestly I'm not bothered about having to convert a lot of them or paint them but holy fucking hell is removing mold lines and paint residue piece by fucking piece a massive chore.

I stripped half those models and I still haven't cleaned 1/3 of them in 3 months.
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>>47424498
We need to go deeper.
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>>47426227
washes allow you to do some quick painting on flesh and other bits. as for highlights i like to base paint, brighter color on raised bits like a , then clean up with that base color. it's a little easier but not as neat

>>47426308
forgive me brother but i am guilty of not getting every mold line and not bothering to paint spots no one but me will think to look at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlJVubeExvk
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>>47426361
That's alright man, I was the same and I'm still guilty of a good few of my other armies having such issues. It's like when you're working on one new army with your current mindset but you have other armies you built up with an earlier, less meticulous mindset. Less care of cleaning mold lines, shoddy painting, no effort to convert and all that.

I want my Tau to be a new project for me. Forest and swamp themed so I'm pulling out all the stops with possibly conversions and looks. I'm even giving my pathfinders Ghillie cloaks made with flock-covered medical gauze.
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>>47426071
I once almost punched my opponent when he first shot with hisWhirlwind, rolled nightfight, looked at the distance and then fired his barrage using the range he just looked up with nightfight. So unsportmanship. I even played CSM so I did field the old metal Dreadnaught needed for good'ol Dreadsock.
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>>47426319
Jesus did you just spent time on that? Cant you like, figure out cure for cancer or something other useful thing?
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>>47426361
This talk of mold lines made me relook at my marines and there are tons of mold lines i missed but i dont feel like striping them
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>>47425493
all terrain has rules.
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>>47426466
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>>47426466
I'm trying. One shitpost at a time.
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looks like other base sizes are confirmed.

plus I'm betting that bottom tagline means we're getting the spawn of cryptus clam pack.
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So my LGS is closed mondays and tuesday. Didn't know this, went yesterday, saw they close at 7PM, was 8 o'clock, went back today, guy was taking inventory told me they were closed.

Its almost like they don't WANT my money.
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>>47426549
Kinda looks like the Shadow of the Colossus game over screen, that's fucking horrifying.
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>>47426585
>master of machines
enginseer clampack, I guess?
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Managed to split the cost of the Knights game with a chaos bud, we both intend them to have the same paints cost

Mines a Paladin with Stormspear missiles he got a the Thermal Cannon and Thunderstrike Gauntlet with Icarus Autocannons,

Are there rivalries between chaos and renegade households with paint schemes that I could suggest to paint them up as?
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>>47425637
My 5000 points of Orks haven't been touched in a year now, since all they do when they go to tournaments is lose.
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>>47426621
Oh god, I can't get that image out of my head now.
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>>47426466
Please don't respond to chicken lover, we almost got rid of his shitposting
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>>47426585
But what would the master of machines be?
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>>47425927
>>47426071
while old nightfighting was powerful, it was kind of a hassle. And a bit much to represent just fighting at night time.

That rule should be restricted to more extreme cases. Having that be the DE detachment bonus on the other hand would be pretty cool.
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>>47426865
Probably that new techpriest enginseer.
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Stupid rule question. I'm just getting started and reading the rules right now and the entry about rapid fire weapons confused me a little. It says that you can "fire effectively ‘from the hip’ when the squad is advancing". Does this mean I don't have to make snapshots if I moved in the movement phase? The entry neither explicitly says that you have to nor that you don't need them. Someone explain real quick.
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>>47425102
>>infantry squads, no special or heavy weapons: 100
That's not a legal list. You've got to have a Platoon Command Squad to bring Infantry Squads.
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>>47426997
you don't snap shoot. it doesn't specify this in the rapid fire section because shooting at full BS while moving is the general rule. heavy weaapons snap shooting are the exception that gets specified.
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>>47427061
Ah. Thanks Anon. That clears things up.
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>>47426796
You are just as bad. Don't try to play the Victim card
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>>47426997
Only heavy weapons have to snap shot while moving. Rapid fire weapons just prevent you from charging in the assault phase if fired.
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>>47426796
Don't you mean the anti-chicken fag, when his posts got deleted by the jannie or mods, and then, seeing as he stopped, got B&, or at the very least warned.
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>>47426910
Probably. If we're lucky it'll be a plastic techmarine.
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If GW dropped their miniature prices by 50% across the board but included a 5 dollar an hour table fee, would you still support them?
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>>47427094
Sure, I don't play in a GW store.
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>>47427094
wat.
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>>47427094
My gamestore already charges for tablespace. 5$ per person per table. Apoc between 4 people costs 40$. There isn't even any scenery, the only stuff there is the stuff I got from ebay and left there.
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>>47427094
also they let you use their scenery and codec library
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I'm planning out a vehicle-heavy Tau army. What would be the best way to work in an Ethereal for fluff purposes? What's a good bodyguard unit to keep them alive?
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>>47427094
I wish they had template support like before. During the age of armourcast, GW had plasticard templates that you could use to make your own vehicles with. It started the generation of custom model building.
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>>47427145
Not too bad, I pay 15 for tablespace.
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>>47427189
3 stormsurges.
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>>47427094
>5 dollar an hour table fee,
It would have to be a pretty bitching ass table.
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>>47427145
>>47427236
so let me get this straight.

they are ALREADY charging you for table space on top of 40 bucks for a squad of tactical marines?
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>>47427239
Top Kek
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>>47427224
Can you find these templates online like printables or w/e ?
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>>47427248
My FLGS doesn't have table space, we share a space with a few different clubs and the fee covers rent.
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>>47427094
Literally never played in a GW.
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best ork HQ, troops, eleites, fast attack, heavy support,
and LOW
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>>47424535
10p pnts irc for 1 50% to hit krak missle
You could buy another melta for that
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>>47427094
Fuck, I will find a place to play, Just make the fucking models cheaper
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>>47427248
My gamestore caters to MTG players and just opened a section of the store for Warhammer. There is plenty of space and tons of tables. MTG players don't have to buy table space either, its just tabletop and D&D Which, to be fair, have it much worse then us. They have to pay per person. Including the GM. They have 10+ people too.
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>>47426319
>Not in the Grim darkness of the Far future there is no proof
Shitpost harder
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>>47427080
Considering the OP image and the other one that started this shit again, it's defiantly the chicken lover who's the problem.

The kroot was a clever solution.

>>47427083
Would be nice, But I already have 5 of the metal ones and an old iron father, so no need

>>47427094
If GW dropped their prices by 25% they would see an increase in sales due to more individuals picking up the hobby. Don't need table fees then.
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>>47427080
Nope.
Did not get warned or banned.

If chicken lovers want to escalate this war, then the remove chicken bros must do so as weel.
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>>47427391
>MTG players don't have to buy table space
Scum
Everyone pays or nobody pays
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>>47427406
Agreed Kroot was good. Kroot was 40K.

Chicken and its lovers are bad and cancer.
They do not belong here.
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>>47427406
>Considering the OP image and the other one that started this shit again, it's defiantly the chicken lover who's the problem.
>The kroot was a clever solution.

>Chicken shows up in OP
>Most people just ask why its there
>People respond by telling of what happened in threads past
>Conversation moves on
>6 months later
>"EUH, CHICKEN IS BAD"
>"IMA EDIT DA IMAGE BECUSE BAD TASTE"
>"TAU FACE IS ALSO OFFENSIVE TO ME CUZ MY SUPER TAStE"
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>>47427420
Oh yes, I'm sure basically threatening to hold the thread hostage with your shitposting because of a meme and a couple of jokes will go over so well.

On an unrelated note, on a scale from 1 to 10, how autistic are you?
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>>47427094
Considering most GW stores have only 1 or 2 tables since they moved to the single employee model this would be a horrible idea.
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>>47427391
I wish FLGS just had a 1 drink minimum.
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>>47427461
>greentext cancer
Right lad, time to move on. These parts aren't for chicken lovers like yourself. There's boards for that kinda shit.
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>>47427490
I'll follow you, friend. We can both goto trash.
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>>47427461
>turns out that chicken was about some circlejerk shitposting that nobody cares about
>surprised when people don't like it when shitposters try to force their memes entire threads

Remove the darn chicken or face the consequences
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How much money do you think Games Workshop is losing to based Chinaman every year? How much are they losing on codecs?
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>>47427427
>>47427489
There is alot of things I wish this flgs store did better. Funny thing is that alot of the customers have started migrating over to another store 18 minutes down the road that is 1/8th the size. The owner is chasing away customers.
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>>47425177
Wat?
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>>47427406
>Considering the OP image and the other one that started this shit again, it's defiantly the chicken lover who's the problem
Not really.
Everybody agreed to this pic, and the first great OP image shitposting war ended.
Then this new guy comes along, and like a poultry hating hitler, decides to try and rile people up and start shit up again.
Oh well. His tactics are quite self defeating, so He'll just contiue to be made fun of and be told to shut up by both sides.
It'll be good fun for everyone.
Well, except the people who want to talk about 40k, but they're clearly the minority here
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>>47427479
>how autistic are you?
Between remove chickin and dislocate chicken.

The chicken lovers are the terrorists who want to lord over the 40K general threads and worship their meme. Go start your own threads.
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Let's talk about warhammer before the mods prune this thread like that last one. Do you guys have any models you are excited to build? Are you planning on any custom kitbashing/ custom models? Any greenstuff works you want to share?
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>>47427539
Not all FLGS' can be run like a business
Those that are, grow and prosper
Those that don't, wither and die
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>>47427575
I wish my krootox and kroot hounds didn't suck as much as they do.
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>>47427539
this is a thing that happens.
In my case, the dick store managed to hang onto the MTG crowd despite being dicks to them, but being willing to put up with the extremely toxic part of the local community here.
The other small store is partly owned by a guy who loves 40k, so he is basically eating the cost of keeping tables in, and we pay him back by trying to buy something from him as often as we can, and ordering our models through our store.

>>47427578
depends what you mean by 'runs like a business'. Some people take that to mean squeezing your customers for every possible cent.
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>>47427559
I'll take that down as a 100.
Now fuck off.

>>47427575
I agree.
>Do you guys have any models you are excited to build?
Some of the Tzeentch stuff from the silver tower game. The ogroid is gonna be a bitching daemon prince.
Are you planning on any custom kitbashing/ custom models?
Just taking some left over bitz from my CSM and chaos daemon sprues to make some spawn.
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>>47427550
Look here >>47424498 and here >>47426319 and here >>47426549

Chicken lovers go out of their way to shitpost. This is truth that cannot be unseen. Once chicken and its lovers are removed the threads will be okay.
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>>47427575
i just finished painting up the blue scribes i got yesterday. i think i beat my personal best of 10 hours on a miniature
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>>47427578
It would help if the owner went to an actual college for business or some other shit rather then Ringling for "art". He is $250k in debt and is the worst drawer/model painter I have ever seen.
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>>47427627
100 anons stand against the chickin yes.
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>>47427630
Those are clearly jokes, you mong.
People do that because they find it funny to get a rise out of you.
The guy who posted the link to this thread in the last general even said as much.
Now stop being such a fun hating tightass, learn to laugh at yourself, be less serious, and talk about 40k, not crudely drawn fowl.
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>>47427640
Longest time or shortest?

>>47427654
Imaginary friends aren't people anon.
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>>47427659
Joke is cover up for chicken posting.
You will not fool me.
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>>47427679
>You won't fool me
Oh I assure you, you in no way need my help to make yourself a fool.
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>>47427676
At least they are not chickins.
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>>47426676
None that I know of but that sounds like a great opportunity to homebrew your own. Maybe both houses claim that they're the real successors to another house.
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>>47427575
>Models excited to build
My Ghostkeel. I love that new box smell, I admit I die a little inside anytime I have to start removing bits from the fresh sprue and assemble.

>Custom conversions
Wew lad, too many. My lone Srisis suit is going to be reposed and plenty of armour and antenna bits stuck on. I want to make it reminiscent of a Zone of the Enders Orbital Frame (the antennas on the back will look like wings). I'm also giving it the ghostkeel's hand in place of its own as an Onager Gauntlet. One Punch Commander.

My Pathfinders are getting ghillie cloaks made of medical gauze loaded with PVA and flock. Making a Remora drone from the pathfinder's recon drone and then turning one of the pathfinders into Darkstrider. I'm also going to kitbash a Shadowsun from stealthsuit parts and other shit + Greenstuff. Finally my Ghostkeel is going to have the gun in place of the forearm, not underslung. It's also going to have the fusion blasters in a custom housing on the back of the left hand instead of the sensor suite. I figure I don't need to show that shit, it's cool techy bits I can use elsewhere and it makes the fusion blaster more logical to aim.
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>>47427692
Very funny.
but still you have to remove the chickin it does not belong here in 40k thread.
I let go just for this thread you better listen in next one.
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How heavy is a Baneblade? I need to know for reasons.
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>>47427676
shortest. but then the blue scribes are a character and not a squad. i'm not the best but i could do commissions and i talk about paint offline all the time.

now to get back to that bloodthrister i've been working on for months
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>>47427730
300+ tonnes.
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>>47427730
312t
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>>47425564

>the walls are impassable terrain
>the doors can be open or shut from inside and are impassable terrain when shut
>as long as it's shut it gains a tight seal rule where boasts and templates can't hit inside
>models inside can fire the storm bolter
>since it's just terrain, not a building with an AV, it can't be shot or assaulted
>since models inside are still on the table the can use all their bubble special rules and warp dice
>it's effectively an invulnerable bunker only even better
>25 points each, 1-5 in a fortification slot
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Hurry guys.

Name 5 human female characters in 40K.

Hard mode engaged : No BL novels or FFG rpgs because they are not "canon".
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>>47427602
>>47427649
I think this is the major reasons that FLGS fail. Being enthusiastic for the hobby doesn't mean you have the budgeting or customer service skills to make it work.

For a long time there was only one FLGS in my area. In the last couple years two new ones moved in, and the original tanked pretty quick once it had actual competition.

It was the only one with tables/terrain, which kind of sucks.
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>>47427723
>I let go just for this thread you better listen in next one
Oh goodie. Because that shall surely win over the masses! Threatening your shitposting in advance!

Though on a more serious note, perhaps such an action would garner you more love. A regular schedule would give all who don't want to hear any more bitching about the OP the knowledge of which hours to avoid the general
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>>47427781
Adding this too this post>>47427630
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>>47427781
Don't egg him on.
As much as I despise shitposters like him, purposely encouraging him by posting pics like that makes you just as liable for ruining the thread as him.
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>>47427778
masque of slaanesh, heralds of slaanesh, macha, lady malys, caerys
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>>47427790
standing to shitposting is not shitposting.
this was over but you but your chickin lover genes made you want to continue.
pls stop and talk about 40k not about chickins that do not belong.
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>>47427778
Tona Criid, Jessi Branda, Nessa Bourah, Sehra Muril, and Alicia Dominica.
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>>47427778
Hard mode: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Known_Members_of_the_Adepta_Sororitas

There's at least five from codexes in there. Some from WDs too.
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>>47427832
>this was over but you but your chickin lover genes made you want to continue
No, some random anon thought it would be funny to try and egg you on.
And he was wrong for it. But the fact that you can't ignore it puts you just as much in the wrong. Seriously man, learn to take a joke. It will go a long way to improving your life. Better job opportunities, better relationships, better friendships, everything.
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>>47427813
Reminder that chicken lover started it by removing based krrot.
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>>47427784
being and enthusist can help imho, if you've still got the business chops.
Small local businesses rely on a supportive long term customer pool. So being able to connect with the customers and get good word of mouth helps.

And the old, break even on the thing you're an enthusiast about and use the good word of mouth and client base to bring in people to buy your profit items. Plenty of restuarents couldn't even pay their bills off the food prices, but make profits by using the food to get you to pay more than double for the drinks you could get at the store down the street.
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>>47427870
>kroot is the newest thing
>is removed because an older image is used
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>>47427869
>egg you on.

You used that pun twice. You are worse than Hitler, no you are worst than chiken poster.
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>>47427649
You don't need to go to college to understand how to run a business, let along a FLGS

You run events
Draw customers
Reward the customers

But you also need the right location, and over saturated area is just as bad as an area where no one plays.
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>>47427817
I said human damnit

>>47427846
I actually forgot that they existed.
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>>47427900
I sure feel really rewarded when he won't stock up on his store and makes me order through him anything that I want.
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>>47427895
It's not a pun, you dip.
It's an actual phrase.
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>>47427918
I could probably have found you five non-SoB characters (the two from the Last Chancers come to mind), but I don't give enough of a shit to spend more than a minute searching around.
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>>47427891
Anon, don't even try to explain things to him. It's futile.
Just point and laugh, at this sad little man, so bothered by poorly drawn pictures of flightless domesticated birds
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Okay, can someone please explain what the deal is with the chickens?
I'm fucking confused
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>>47427945
that you intended to use as a pun for this individual situation, chiken hitler.
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>>47427973
this could have ended 20 minutes ago but want the thread to be all about chickens.

Pls stop.
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>>47427730

About two thirds as much as your mum.
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>>47427977
A long long time ago, there was a war against the shitposter Carnac
The chicken was intergral to the battle that removed him, and it was commemorated by being added to the OP image. It wasn't a big deal, and this would be the end of the story.
However, months later a poor anon, seeking to improve the world, made a new OP image. But he forgot to add the chicken. Some moronic chickenposters, who have long since disappeared, got upset. This caused the Great OP shitposting war, which raged on for months. Then this >>47427550 image was created to end the fighting. And it did. And things were good.
And then this new autist comes along, can't stand the compromise, and shitposts about it.
We respond with varying levels of witty retorts, as we make fun of this poor soul.
Give him no credence, ignore him if he just posts once. If he posts multiple times, respond with pointing and laughing
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>>47427977
Basically, it's skub.
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>>47427977
>Tau poster posted stuff
>saying tau number #1
>people ask for references to where he is getting his numbers from
>doesnt give them and continues to post more stuff
>slav poster posts rooster[rooster means faggot in russian] and tells him to give proof
>3+thread war between carnac and slav
>ordeal ends
>another anon adds chicken/rooster to op
>months go by
>shitposting quotas not met
>anti-chicken appears
>baits those called "chicken lovers"
>now 30+threads/images/and back and forth shitposting later beings us here.
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>>47427977

It's a joke limited to a handful of Anons in a single thread.
It had something to do with posting proof for a rumour.
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>>47428055
At least skub matters.

>>47427983
I can assure you I did not.
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>>47428071
More iterations of the meme image are pretty cute, at least. I like >>47426549 best
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>>47428053
>The chicken was intergral to the battle that removed him

But I am still here, though. I didn't go anywhere <3
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>>47424523
Do we have a price on these yet?
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>>47427977
It's a meme and a joke.
And to nobody's suprise, there are autists on 4chan who can't handle jokes.
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>>47428053
>>47428082
So... basically stupid shit for /tg/'s history books?
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>>47428106
Oh I know.
I'm the OG chickenposter.
I miss the days when our arguments where actually about 40k, rather than images used in arguments about 40k.
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>>47427575
I'm excited to start working on my Leman Russ from the Start Collecting kit I got. I'm going to start it once I've finished all the guardsmen that come with it.
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Say what you want about the proof flame war, its the only thing in years thats created content on /tg/ for a long time. Hell, I doubt we would even have all these general images if HolidayBonus didn't make the Imperial Knight and Scions. Most of the "newer" items are just re-coloured and reshaped versions of those that already existed.
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>>47428131
God did I start the fire again? I was just wondering about the fucking chickens...
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>>47428123
Yes.
It honestly wouldn't be talked about if it wasn't for the one autist.
And the only way to shut him up would be to remove the chicken. But that would set the precedent that shitposting will be rewarded, which would be a far worse situation than one autist constantly complaining.
Like I said, just ignore him when you can, and make fun of him when you can't.
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>>47428071
>>people ask for references to where he is getting his numbers from

Actually, I gave citations, page, numbers, and even screencaps.

For some reason people thought that the Kauyon book and the Tau codexes were biased. Typical anti-Tau, I say.
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>>47428157
Nah, Carnac isn't causing a problem, and I doubt people would take kindly to me going back to full slav mode and shitting the thread up more than it already is.
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>>47428106
Imperium would still wipe the Tau off the universe if it weren't for plot armour. Koy fish and Monkey are some of the worst written campaign books since the Carnac Campaign.
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>>47428169
All of your shit was debunked day 1. Take your bow of defeat and an hero.
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desu, the chicken is pretty dumb and irritating but I don't care enough to race to post the first general with a chicken free image every time we hit the bump limit
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>>47428199

>Imperium would still wipe the Tau off the universe if it weren't for plot armour.

And the Imperium by and large having greater issues to deal with.
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>>47428259
like da orks
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>>47428300
ima gun krump yer forces ya git
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>>47428259
>>47428282
Just send the entirety of the SoBs. Give more than 60 multimeltas, and tell them to go to town on the Tau. They'll get brutalized of course, but at least they'll dish some brutality out equally.
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>>47428310
Not at I2 you ain't.
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Is there a cheaper alternative to the land raider base? Land raiders look dumb and are expensive.
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>>47428314
can somepne remind me the context of the 60 multimeltas meme?
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>>47428231
Bullshit.

Like i said, I screecapped everything and posted it here. My favourite one is one stating that a Tau Ui (sergeant) that can't be more than 25 is as skilled in stealth and ruse warfare as a Raven Guard shadow captain who is most likely 80+.

You will submit to Tau superiority.

>>47428199
There would be no wiping out of anything. This is the last big hurrah of the Imperium against the Tau. The big effort ordered by the High lords, came and went. The Tau were bloodied but they kept standing. It's what they do best, they stare down tyrants and savages. The Imperium now faces the End Times and will be busy with it. The Tau have a civil war incoming and the prochecy of the Mont'shaar.

But before we get to that. The Tau must teach the Imperium one more lesson by crushing the Red Scorpions and Admech in the upcoming Imperial Armor book. GET HYPE!
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>>47428323
>ork slowly sobbing on the floor with grot patting
him on the back
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Fluffu question:

Can space marines cry?
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>>47428353
if they do they HAVE FAILED THE EMPRAH
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>>47428344
Average number of multimeltas needed to kill single Flyrant. Consequence of the question how Sister deal with Flyers when they have no AA weapons.
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>>47428344
It had something to do with Flyrants. Reasonably I think that's overkill. What can survive that much melta?
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>>47428353
They have tear ducts, so yes.
But they usually don't go beyond single manly tear.
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>MFW Gue'la "titans" start dropping like kroot-flies before superior Tau firepower
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>>47428353
Blood Angels do.
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>mfw falling rocks literally kill "superior Tau firepower"
you can't escape from the stones of justice, even in 40k
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>>47428344
Some guy was really upset that his fluffy Salamanders army couldn't deal with Flyrants, as he'd need 60 multi-meltas to kill one in a turn.

He rejected the idea that Salamanders would be smart enough to bring actual anti-air
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>>47428388
with what exactly would you kill a titan most effectively? I'm just starting out with tau so I'm actually wondering...
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>>47424523
I wonder how they assemble. I want to make one with the top open and a quad cannon raised up to go with my Aegis Line. Would fit perfectly with the transportable fortification idea of the thing.

Wonder how long before someone makes an Imperial train out of these.
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>>47428405
Ah, but do the stones have the proper lizardmen to bear them?
Speaking of, why hasn't GW added lizardmen to 40k? That would be fucking awesome.
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>>47428388
>Pulse driver
>D missles
>Superior
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>>47427550
>people who want to talk about 40k
>correlating with people who care about the OP image
nah
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>>47428388
>>47428350
Look at him go
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>>47428314
>Just send the entirety of the SoBs

>Kauyon mentions that among the crusade against the Tau, there are countless regiments of AM, Admech war groups, and Battle Sister covens.
>Mont'ka comes and we get to see the AM regiments and Admech forces in action
>There are no signs of sisters anywhere

Where did they go?
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>>47428405
Lizards have rocks, Nids have rocks, Orks have rocks, and Imperials have rocks. They all know that when rocks fall things die.
>>47428433
Because they don't want Chaos fans crying about Lizards using moons for ammo murdering their CSMs.
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>>47428429
>pic
is that on a remote or does somebody have to crawl up there?
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>>47428457
GW would probably hand wave it and say they couldn't go because of their periods.
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at the club i go to we play mostly 600-750 pts
what is some advice for 600pts lists
no houserules ):

this is for orks only as i have 1 army
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>>47428433
no one knows what's in the obsidian knight, so maybe

>why hasn't GW added lizardmen to 40k?
Because they never expanded on the tarellians.
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>>47428363
>>47428344

The origin of the meme came from a man who came onto TG complaining about how cheesy tyranids where.

when people asked why he was so fanny flustered he revealed that he had been asked to play a game with a tyranid player, after hearing that his opponent was a tyranid he proceeded to give all his tac squads flamers for dealing with hordes and went overboard on High strength low AP weapons. using salamander tactics for bonuses when using these weapons, the man went to play against the nid player and got tabled because the nid player brought shitloads of flygrants, this gave the man severe botherations and the man complained loudly about how the nid codex ws broken and that his math showed it would require 60 multimelta's to kill one of the buggers in a turn

when he got called out for being a list tailor and a cunt, as well as an idiot for not bringing AA against nids, he started shitposting with pic related and was considered such a retard that his autism has been immortalised in the TG meme canon
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>>47428458
Daily reminder that Be'lakor was killed by Archaon and got sealed inside the warp until he was summon later by his female servant.

That makes it impossible for him to have been there in the Lizardmen temple. He would have been unable to exit the warp due the restrictions placed on him by the Chaos Gods.

Get rekt, Lizardfags.
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>>47428461
It's controlled by a guy in the base with a 360 controller crying over his PTSD from killing people on a tv while sitting on a chair in his underpants.
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>>47428511
It's like you're trying to summon the Australians.
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>>47428461
Remote. It's a container they just move into place and it sets up as a defensive turret for outposts.

I'm already working on an Aegis line made entirely of the short pieces with handles on them, so they look more like something a few dudes can pick up and carry into position. Put a container with a defensive quad gun with them and it should look like a nice temporary fortification.
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>>47428511
Daily reminder that the end times & AoS is non canon.
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>>47428511
daily reminder that paradoxes exist in-setting and individuals can in fact be in two places at once
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>>47428511

The hold time has on the functions of chaos is tenuous as fuck at the best of times

the end times was hardly the best of times

and considering kaldor draigo was present within the warp for the elves rescue mission and even helped them do it, the idea that time went fuzzy for be'lakor isn't too ridiculous
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>>47428457
they decided to wait for their plastic update

>>47428314
SoB would be terrible for a prolonged campaign, maybe if the tau had hive worlds but the Tau are more useful alive then dead
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>>47427045
Where does it say that? I thought that you can have individual infantry squads, they just take up 1 troops choice each.
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>>47428457
IIRC, the commander in charge had access to all thatm but knew if he deployed it all then the high lords would have him killed. So he only deployed a fraction of the armies he had available, which is why the tau weren't utterly annihilated
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>>47428053
>The chicken was intergral to the battle that removed him

Chicken posters are the main reason he's still around. They're the only people thick enough to take his bait.
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>>47428537
Both events happen before the End Times and AoS.

>>47428539
>>47428546
The Chaos Gods themselves imprisoned Be'lakor in the Realm of Chaos. It was impossible for him to exit the Warp without a mortal summoning him.

So he wouldn't been able for him to be there >>47428532

The will of the Chaos Gods transcends paradox.

Furthermore, rocks cannot hurt a creature with no shape or form.
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>>47428600
Except Carnac hardly posts here anymore.
He mostly stays on the AoS General.
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So I own the Deathwatch Overkillbox, some of the Deathstorm box and 2014 edition Space Hulk. I want to make a kinda fluffy Genestealer list, so is the Ghosar Quintus Broodkin and two Broodlord's Hunting Packs the best way to run what I have? With as many upgrades as I could buy to pad the list.

Like I said, is there a better way to work with the two broodlords and thirty someodd Genestealers I have on hand? Also, scything talons or rending claws generally preferred?
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>>47428496
well list tailoring like that is shit, I do wish running hoards for nids was remotely rewarding, so that proper list tailoring against nids wasn't spamming as much AA as possible.
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>>47428607
>rock throwing intensifies
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>>47428613
Because AoS is getting a lot of sweet content while 40K hasn't got anything new and interesting since the Tau books.

Hopefully, the second Fenris book will change that.
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>>47428627
>Lizardman deems warmblood worthy of being a daemon slaying rock thrower
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>>47428607
>The will of the Chaos transcends Chaos
laughing stones

>>47428624
Use the broodkin formation and a single broodlord hunting pack. Should be roughly 1500 points and quite fun for casual fucking around.
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>>47428532
That's a big reason why I like the tabletop. There is no "plot armour". A lone Firewarrior could potentially kill Calgar in close combat if the dice are right. That said, it's terrible for GW when they tried to make canon events out of tabletop games.
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>>47428638
>Because AoS is getting a lot of sweet content
what? the Warhammer Quest box? because that hardly counts as AoS.
Warhammer Quest was awesome, and the new version feels a lot like the old version and Hero Quest before it.
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>>47428613

Bullshit. Even AoS generals are in a better state than these shit shows. Not only do we have the same old bait we also have a million fucking generals that are nothing except faggots complaining about OP images. The idiots that were proud of their ability to get baited then became the second form of cancer that enabled the old cancer.
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>>47426502
Same.
>Look at my army
>Mold lines I clearly missed
>My group plays in a dark room anyways
Fuck i, I'll buy new models next year and remake the army with better poses.
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>>47428638
Hey man we're getting containers soon

CONTAINERS!
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>>47428672
dark shadows, armageddon, eye of terror and medusa were all pretty fun

The rest have been pretty bad. Mainly because they took control away from the players.
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>>47428668
Comes out to about 1000 actually. Broodkin is roughly 600, Hunting Pack without upgrades is about 350. Thus why I jammed in two packs.
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>>47428353
They can yes.

It is very rare though.

Pic related has a Chaplain cry when his mentor is killed, causing him a great shame, as he would have wanted to be killed instead of him, considering himslef lower than his master. Great book btw, get it on torrents.
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Any of you lads from the Boston area? Tired of the cringe-tier groups at most stores in this city.
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Speaking of Be'lakor, the metal band of the same name is putting out a new album next month
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>>47428711
Hmm, I'd rather take larger units in the initial hunting pack. Bump the units to ten strong, buy some upgrades for the broodlord.

because small stealer squads just die immediately
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>>47428668
Go away, Lizardmen. You are extinct.

>>47428676
You mean the Silver Tower game which is pretty much AoS. And I don't mean that really. I meant the campaign books and novels.

Anyways, since we are mentioning the Silver Tower. Let see if you can spot the easter egg.

>>Upon embarking on your first trial, these pages will explain just how and why the gathered heroes came to be at the Silver Tower, in an impossible chamber that leads to nightmarish halls. But this amazing art adds a whole new level of intrigue to the situation, with some very malevolent spectators gazing down upon the seemingly tiny form of a Knight-Questor. You may wonder what these terrible creatures could be: Lords of Change and Daemon Princes come to watch the work of the Gaunt Summoner? Manifestations of the Silver Tower? Aspects of Tzeentch himself? And what exactly is going on? That, we think we may have the anwer to. Just take a close look at what the creature on the right is juggling in the claws of his right hand…
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