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Finally got a new power supply for my comp. Time to dump some imprisoned pics
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>>47340061
What is that for? Tracking kills?
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>>47340089
No. Chinese tax collector's sword. They are the only culture I can think of that makes beaurocrats heros.
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>>47340120
>No. Chinese tax collector's sword. They are the only culture I can think of that makes beaurocrats heros.

That's fucking awesome.
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Could I some Falchions, mechetes, or other hacking style melee weapons?
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>>47340153
Im not joking either.

>>47340177
So it is said, so it is done. Any particular culture or time?
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>>47340177
>or other hacking style melee weapons?

That's in how you use it, not the sword itself. And if you sue it the same way all the time, you're not going to do well.
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>>47340029
What's that? Google search gives no awnser.
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>>47340334
There are distinct functional differences between between an arming sword and a falchion, anon.

>>47340360
A modern SCA sports combat helmet based on various middle eastern helmets
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>>47340401
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>>47340007
What is this, equipment for myrmidons?
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>>47340401
>There are distinct functional differences between between an arming sword and a falchion, anon.

If anything, you'll be better off hacking with the arming sword. It's more likely to have the size and mass for such. But in the end, stech, hau or schnitt is about what opportunities you get.
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>>47340432
The first is an Indian madu: A parrying/thrusting weapon combo of short spear and buckler.

The second is a 16thC brigandine in the shape of a doublet and burgeonet in the style of unarmoured. Negroli's work I believe.

>>47340434
You've obviously never actually handled either weapon. Its about distribution of mass and balance. Your typical side or arming sword is a jack of all trades that can cut, slash and thrust, but is in general never going to be as good as a specialized sword in any of those specific areas.

Its the reason we prefer falchions and cleavers for melee in ACL/IMCL: The mass is more effective against armour, as we can't thrust. For scored point 1v1, arming swords are prefered for the lighter weight.
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>>47340401
>on various middle eastern helmets

Shit. It's supposed to be from a specific culture or era at least? Or it's just full LARPing?
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Forgot my trip

>>47340630
Its a combo of two or three 16thC Persian helms, with the specific pieced chosen for safety in steel and baton sports combat, with the doubled overlay being quite common, and the chisel cut visor not unheard of.
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So what's with this breastplate studded like a brigandine and are there any more examples like it?
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>>47340724
That IS a brigandine. Brigandine pectorals with a placard (the lower torso/gut plate) is very common throughout the 15thC, especially in Germany and North Italy.
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>>47340615
>Its the reason we prefer bad reproductions of falchion for melee in ACL/IMCL. By giving them the mass distribution of a cheap wallhanger we get maces that look like swords.
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>>47340808
Huh... The shape looks too formfitting for what I see of typical brigandines. Really aesthetic look though.

>that fuck-off huge warhammer
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>>47340808
>That IS a brigandine.

Looks like a breastplate with added leather and rivets to make it look like brigandine from a distance.
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>>47340724
>>47340808
Oh further examination (read, just got off the porcelain throne/phone and back on my comp), That does seem to be a solid breastplate... I have never personally seen an existing piece, repro, or documentation for such a thing, but with faux-scale, plate etched to look like maille, and plate shaped to look like clothes, its reasonable that covering a breast plate with leather and faux brig rivets could have been a thing.
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>>47340878
Brigandine is supposed to be pretty form fitting.
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>>47340859
>implying that a cheap wallhanger wouldnt explode on the first hit.
>implying that russian style choppers are not stupid anyway and maces don't work better in every way

Maces for life.
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>>47340880
Yeah, I caught it on the bigger screen.

>>47340937
No, they mean the uniform curvature without "imprint" in >>47340724. Its just a leather covered breast plate.
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>>47340976
>maces for life

Say that to his face.
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>>47340639
What the fuck is that? Is it a real thing?
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>>47341036
As much as any ridiculous historical novelty is a thing.

I'm sure it was real and made with good intentions, but it was also obviously never adopted on any large scale.
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>>47341027
I will, with my polearm, as I am not an idiot.

>>47341036
>>47341051
late 19th/ early 20thC, and the are surprisingly common. The US navy apparently ordered a bunch.

People tried a lot of weird shit shit, back in the day. Obviously, they didn't stick around.

>>47341114
Whoever made this obviously did research into armour... But WTF is that whole "inflated" looking hood deal?

>>47341157
>Now with built in bottle opener!
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>>47341173
I guess its time to dump the weird shit
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>>47340615

>>47340432 was a joke, you see, referencing the commonly used jape that mocks small images as being "for ants." Which is iteslf a reference to the popular Ben Stiller movie "Zoolander." But the poster then twisted it slightly so as to fit into this Arms & Armour thread. Hence "equipment for myrmidons," myrmidon being the Greek word for ant - which was also used for Achilles' band of warriors in their particular style of heavy armour.

That was the joke.
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>>47340360
got you bro
https://armstreet.com/store/armor/helmet-king-of-the-east
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>>47342152
>/tg/, the weapon

>>47342722
Whats your problem with Ugo Serrano's personal hunting cleaver?

>>47343264
>myrmidon being the Greek word for ant
I honestly didn't know that. I learned something today!

I also didn't realize the images resized, i'll fix it in a bit

>>47343579
Yeah, a guy on an sport combat forum just got one, hence the table pic. He loves it, though its a little heavy with all the brass.
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>>47340878
That is pretty huge. You could just use the fucking head itself as a dagger.
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RHODOKS
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>>47344089
whats the name of that polearm?
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>>47344145
Glaive probably.
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>>47344145
Glaive?
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>>47344192
probably right, the blade looks different from what I commonly view as glaives.
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Anyone have armour with solar motifs? need inspiration for paladin.
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>>47344224
Ask and you fucking receive
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>>47344224
Sure do.
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>>47344224
Was kind of thinking of a fluted plackart like >>47340808 but stylized so it looks like a rising sun
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>>47344224
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>>47344475
I suppose.
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>>47344536
How the hell did I forget the KotBS?
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/tg/ keeps giving me weird weapons to love.
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>>47343929
Dat's an Ugo? Shoulda guessed, I suppose.
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>>47340153

>Hold up knave, I have to calculate precisely how I'm going to beat your shit
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>>47340153
Han dynasty? Or Wu? or is it late medieval as opposed to ancient?
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>>47346238
As far as I know, it's been that way as long as Confucianism.
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>>47340277
The Saber-chete is a favorite.
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>>47339949
Yo, where's the item descriptions at? How am I supposed to know what all this shit is?
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>>47346417
I don't have much
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>>47346596
huh, those don't have their names...
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>>47346618
armored wagon, Cossacks I believe
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>>47346673
munitions plate
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>>47346673
That thing would suck, right? Isn't the barrel like an inch long?
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>>47346697
probably pretty short, but it looks a bit longer than a pistol barrel. It obviously wasn't meant for long range, probably one of the crazy things that came from the world wars
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>>47346734
after a bit of googling, it functions kinda like a FN 90. Still looks cool, which is all that matters
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>>47346786
last one, I gotta go
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>>47346417
Most of it is pretty common. Some of them have descriptions in the file name.

Which ones do you have questions?

>>47346786
Thats a bombard.
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>>47340089
>>47340120
This guy was in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.
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>>47340061

>Fighting someone
>land fatal blow
>as they lay there on the ground bleading out
>tinker around with abacus
>according to my calculations...
>Your dead!
>Swing for decapitation blow
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>>47341001
Unless that's just decorative, how the hell are you supposed to bend your elbows if there's plates in there?
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Got any cool shields or falxs? Falxes? Falx's?
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>>47346618
Reminds me of this. Too bad they never caught on, not even in cannon form.
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>>47347263
You know, I don't have many shields. It's odd.
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>>47347217
What do you mean? Its brigandine. They are overlapping on a leather and velvet backing. The whole point is that its flexible.

Much like Roman manica
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>>47347337
Just kinda had it ingrained into me that armoring the inner elbow with plates was impossible, I guess.
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>>47347263
I can do shields

>>47347351
By who? Look up "compression articulation". Its a dick to do, but was super popular on tournament harnesses in the 15th and 16thC. Henry VIII had most of his harnesses with it.
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>>47347372
It does indeed look pretty schway.
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>>47347394
Your taste in cartoons is schway.

Have rare proof of samurai hand-shields.
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>>47346631

I think those are Hussites, what with the chalice and goose on the flag.

http://historyreconsidered.net/The_Hussites.html
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>>47347136

>"I'm here to audit your business"

>Lays sword on the table, resets the abacus beads to start tabulating.

>"I trust there are no issues?"
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>>47340177
I gotchu
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>>47340258
>guess what it is
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>>47347829
Going to continue my dump
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>>47347856
For those who can't read ancient moon runes
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>>47347921
Some names for them
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>>47347913
Unless I look at it directly I keep reading the chinese pronunciation as 'u w0t m8'.
Anyway, posting russian stuff.
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>>47347960
Not all medieval weapons instantly killed you. Case and point this fellow: he turned around to avoid being struck by a hail of arrows. Many struck him, but the fatal blow comes from the single hammer wound to the back of his head. Perhaps done as the victors walked over the dead and dying on the battlefield.
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>>47347971
Not bad, m80. I too have something funny stuck in my head from your image. I can't help but see this
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>>47347973
Dump continued
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i got one like that
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I spy stirrups.
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Drop some pictures of flails, please.
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I'll post 'dis abomination to attract attention
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>>47348113
They don't seem to have been very common weapons, especially in a one-handed form.
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>>47348220
>'mirin the barndoors on my helmet, I see
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>>47348231
No they weren't. Although terrifying to most, it is dangerous in close combat. Just whirling that ball around is liable to hit yourself or an ally as much as the enemy. And the chain could get stuck on something.

Now spears. Spears were deadly. Still are. En masse, they could halt just about any charge
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I still find it strange that Japan's history isn't really that old. Most civilizations in the west, or even its nearby neighbors China and Korea, were growing prominent far sooner.
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>>47348290
>my ancestors are smiling at me, filthy Northman. Can you say the same?
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>>47348322
checked
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>>47348270
I don't know why, but I'm really starting to hate spears.

I guess it's hard to take something I always saw as a basic at best, or levy-level shoddy, weapon, and then have people go 'wait a second - it's not shit, it's THE shit!' And then there are some people will make it sound like Jesus was stabbed by a spear because nothing else could have possibly harmed him.
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>>47348296
Not too strange. Consider America's history not being that old, but that's because the prominent culture conquered the land from the natives who lived there thousands of years.

Not white guilting here, just saying that it is the same as the East Asians colonizing Japan and wiping out the Ainu natives who had thousands of years of history on the island already.
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>>47348331
Ignoring the fanboys can be hard at times, but will usually end up being well worth it.
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>>47348331
I think a lot of people are just confusing its extreme logistical usefulness for combat ability.
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>>47348333
Witnessed, and my God that looks like it would hurt...

>>47348331
I guess I gotta stick by the idea that simple is not always bad. They work. Form and function come together nicely with spears. Yes, they are levy-level but that is because they work for the levy.

Used in groups, just pointing the spears all in the same direction could devastate infantry charging in with axes and swords. In close combat however, it takes serious training to use a spear right against somebody not using a spear.

>>47348330
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>>47348353
Just beautiful

>>47348368
I got something for you
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>>47348372
Another similar one.
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>>47348400
Checked again, senpai. Those spikes look narly

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>>47348423
>Off-byone Kenobi
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Image limit reached, been fun y'all. Good night
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>>47341036
It's a Tactical folding machete. The French are a strange people, yes.
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>>47348450
Good thread. Thanks folks.
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>>47346734
>probably one of the crazy things that came from the world wars

It's one of the cool end-of-WW2 guns that we didn't get because the Russians turned whole northern part of Europe into their colonial holdings.

>>47347272
>Too bad they never caught on, not even in cannon form.
With creeping fire being a problem for those early blackpowder revolver guns, you'd at least would want to make sure that the bullets won't come flying back towards you.
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