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Why haven't you read Gaunt's Ghosts yet? edition.

>Rules databases
https://mega.co.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html

>FAQs
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata

>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V7.pdf

>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

>White Dwarves
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tx4hcy4u487pv/WD

>Novels (Working link as of 02/02/2016)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
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First for MAGPIES.
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Because honestly Gaunt's Ghosts doesn't sound a very interesting read.
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>>47182054
They find a lot of neat gear in their backwater system
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I checked through the mega-folder and saw that the 2016 version of Waaagh Ghazghskull isn't shared, anyone have it that's willing to upload it?
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So looking at making a custodes army using stormcast eternals, the starter box comes with a couple of them riding dragons. They are using Grey Knight rules, wtf can I use those for?
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>>47182135
Rumour is that an upcoming Horus Heresy book will give rules for Custodes. Just wait until that comes out, buy those models (I can't imagine you will exactly need a high model count) and ask any 40k opponents if you can field them
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>>47179184
There are a pretty good number but on a more important note where does that picture come from i cant find ot through any image searches
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>>47182054
It was a gift Brother.
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>>47182135
I dunno. Baby carriers?
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>>47182054
What sort of goodies will we expect in DoW3? If they have the Dark Angels's Ark of the Covenant or the Blood Angels's lightsaber I think I'm going to die from laughter.
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>>47182204
They successfully looted a Titan from Graia.
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>>47182109
The physical copy, only 7 pages are changed, not scanning a full book for that.
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They're reprinting this. Any issues it may have?
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>>47182236
Any chance I could get the 7 changed pages?
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>>47182263
Sure, ill be at my scanner in an hour
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>>47182005
Kuz iz not "Snikrots Gitz"
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So should I read these codexs I downloaded if I want to learn more about each faction?
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Where do I start with the books? There's so many, it's pretty overwhelming.

Don't know shit about any of the factions.
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>>47182292
>>47182294
You could just read lexicanum or even 1d4chan
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>>47182300
>Just
But I want to read them all
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>>47182300
I know and I have been. I'm not entirely new, just figured these might be good. Is the newest Ork one as good as the out dated ones?
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>>47182314
I don't know much about Orks on the tabletop but the Mob Rule special rule used to be better in the last codex I know that much.
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General for ants
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Canis wolf born rest in peace ;_;
Meanwhile dark Angels let the changeling take control of the Rock and its weapons
A dark day when the inquisition us the voice of reason and calm
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>>47182343
The Changling must have dispose of Asmodai. His fun sensors would have been thrown into overdrive if the Changling didn't.
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>>47182273
I love you.
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>>47182343
Did Canis die? This is news to me.
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>>47181844
>>47181887
Anyone?

Tl;dr blood crushers, fiends, plague drones, screamers or furies.
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>>47182357
Well he disguised himself as Azrael to kill and take the place of a minor intergo chaplain
This chaplain is then left in charge of the rock while the high ups are having buttsex
He then tells the wolves going down to midgardia he will fire in 30 minutes no matter what
And Ragnar is heading over there
So - midgardia destroyed, grimnar dead,Ragnar attacks and kills and/or is killed
Then the GKs finally get there and after talking with the inquisitor banish changeling
Problems with this is htf dark Angels will escape censure for this
Also - changeling said He will return
So I'm guessing it's also a plan for Magnus to break his banishment
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>>47182388
His mount died and then there's a Staniis moment from the herald of khorne
Tbh canis jobs it mostly because the wulfen overtakes him
This seems to be a culling of the more stupid elements of the fluff - canis was able to beat up a full space marine and nearly mashed harald
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If I take disruption pod on a Tetra do I get +2 cover save when the enemy is more than 12" because of the 3+ obscured and +1 from the pod?
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>>47182654
Yes.
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>>47182337
And despite being a picture for ants, it was ridiculously easy to spot in the catalogue.

Unlike the completely generic and indistinguishable picture some autistc faggot insists on using.
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Got myself some old SoB and Kasrkin minis and decided to play some good old Ordo Hereticus. Should I bother with adding an actual Inquisitorial detachment (instead of just fluffing the Canoness as one) and an Assassin or just get more bodies for the points ?
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>>47182314
>Is the newest Ork one as good as the out dated ones
Short answer, no.
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>>47182836
Even in regards to just learning about the lore and not just game rules?
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Whats the best way to build an armoured krumpany. IA list, just the ork codex or does the updated supplment have tank formations?
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>>47182819
get an inquisitor
there rules are fun but i never see them used
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>>47182845
Especially then.
Older the better. Not much difference between 6 and 7e books for lore, most the best bits are cannibalised from earlier stuff. 4e is meh. 3e is great, but a bit thin. Defined a lot of the changes to the orks from 2e. Armageddon has a little bit more in it. 2e is amazing, but outdated in places. Deff Skwadron is the definitive Ork book for character.
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>>47182791
Chicken lover
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>>47182887
Ok, I have them all I think. Should I read 2 and 3 first?
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>>47182791
The picture isn't for ants. It has really wide invisible bars on each side.
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>>47182899
Oh actually I dont think I have 3.
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I have a follow up question

What's the best edition codex for each major faction? Not game rules stuff, just lore and fluff.
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>>47182926
3 shouldn't be hard to get. Thought I had it - maybe it's on the other machine. Have the old chapter approved creature feature rules instead. :)
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>>47183008
Well I have guard and can tell you that last edition was my favorite, in the current one they axed half of the interesting characters like not-Rambo and not-Genghis Khan and not-Soviet general. And now I also remember they axed a guy who was the face of Imperial guard advertisements, sexy motherfucker.
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"Due to a tremendous administratum cockup" is an excellent all-purpose fluff tool for justifying anything. Try it!
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Is it feasible to start two armies at once, or just wait to start another?

Also, I need Tyranid color schemes/inspiration for them.
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>>47183008
The last imperial knight codex before this new one. The newest imperial knight codex dumbed down the lore.
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>>47183103
My favourite "Administration did it" is in the Guard codex where a siege corps was given orders to report to a new front AFTER they had been wiped out and were consequently declared heretics for desertion when they didn't show up.
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>>47183103

Allright, what wiseass authorised naming a Marine chapter "); DROP TABLE Chapters;--"?
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How do any of you play your Dark Angels more knightly? Use BT rules?
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>>47183008
Usually the stuff from mid-late 3 to early-mid 4th edition. Some things have changed, and some armies had rather skint offerings then, so later codices are better (looking at you Dark Eldar) but overall that's the golden era.

t. Oldfag missing the glory days
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>>47183103
>Due to a tremendous administratum cockup
>A small sector off in the corner of the galaxy known as the tauwelera area had a small mining world
>Local PDF were deployed there and got stuck inside the mine when someone fired their lascannon near a gas pocket.
>Many refused to work because gasmasks were not fitted with the proper filters
>In response to "Heavy resistance, large explosion, tauwelera area" reported by a binary chant box, the administium deployed a small crusade force of cadians, white scars, and ravenguard to the area.
>Resulting directions led them into a small asteroid field made out of magnetic meteors.
>Many ships were lost and the Chapter Master of the Raven Guard was reported missing after the second meteor shower after leaving to wax his purity seals in the expunging bay of the battle barge and they could not find him since there was a large meteor casting a shadow from the sun.
>The following report was recorded as
>"Many Imperial forces have been lost in the Tau sector. The enemy seemed to have deployed large metallic objects that shot out smaller projectiles that seemed to track onto their targets. Many forces died in the vacuum of space and the Chapter Master of the Raven Guard was killed by the ShadowSun. It is said that the Tau area has been put ablaze by imperial forces and shall keep off the offending enemy while our forces recover.
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>>47182374
Pardon the delay, had a box of toys waiting at the post.

I've skipped the flier formations as the Death from the skies Attack wing are superior in every way.
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>>47183105
not really if you want to build a full army but an okay idea if you wanna build like 750

as for tyranids look at bugs and sea creatures

>>47182402
summoning wise i'd go for bloodcrushers or screamers, but for points plague drones are a damn good buy. depends on who your target is
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>>47182889
The last thread also had a chicken, and it was the main reason it caught my eye.

The chicken is more representative of 40k general than the generic as shit image that autistic OP started using.
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>>47183149
>more knightly

Not sure, one of the definitions of being a knight is a man devoted to the service of a cause. The Dark Angel's do that in strives.
Personally I fluffed my successor as a nomadic tribe precompliance (with similiarites between the tribe and The Order of Caliban). They are more closely related to Hussars than Knights since I play Ravenwing mostly.

Good luck though.
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>>47183265
RIP, it was fun while it lasted.
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>>47183149
No, use Imperial rules.
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>>47183334
I was the one that used that shit image with the chicken since someone has been crusading for that really bland one.
I make tons of generals and usually prefer the meme image
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>>47183364
did you pull out that 3 page exception to allow turn 1 charging each time you used it?
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Is there any reason why people move onto new "Editions" if they seem not to like the changes?
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Am I the only one that likes artwork as the OP image?

Anyway what is the most reliable way for Dark Eldar to pop AV14 while staying in their codex and ideally not grenades?
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>>47183424
Goto >>>/wg/ if you want a wallpaper general.
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>>47183417
Because most people want to play what is supported and official.
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>>47183417
Basic Psychology?
If they make the next thread before someone else then they can use their image and perhaps get it to stick or minimize shitposting.

However in the grim darkness of the far future there is only shitposting.
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What does a codex mean when the file says "3.5"

Like is it all new stuff or just 3 updated a bit?
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>>47183406
No, i asked my opponent if I was allowed to use it like a normal adult. If he said yes, cool, if he said no, well, then I had another list as a backup that didn't include it.

Now that we can't even start the game in them, they are more than pointless.
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>>47183433
Well, bear with me. What does that mean? Are there really a lot of new models that you just cannot use at all with the rules of 1 edition ago?
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>>47183439
It was the second codex for that faction in 3rd edition.
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>>47183434
Hey anon, your shit stains are showing. I think he meant editions of 40k, not the editions of threads. Maybe you need to get off of /tg/ for awhile... Maybe forever.
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>>47183439
Some 3e codexes got a second update in 3e. The later codexes are called the "3.5" codex.
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>>47183366
The meme image is also significantly better. The bland one is boring and easy to miss.
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>>47183424
Lances?

Dark Eldar are awash with lances. They've got buckets of lances. Lances from hell to breakfast. Lances on boats, lances on jump infantry, lances on walkers, laaaaances.
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>>47183450
>>47183447
Ok, so would it all be new stuff then? Just if I wanted to read them
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>>47183424
>Dark Eldar
>how to pop AV14
You mean AV12, right?

You either Lance them to death, or you haywire them to death. Fairly simple, honestly.

Also, fun trick - a unit can only use one grenade, so if you have an IC, you can detach from the unit when charging, giving you 2 seperate units with grenades.
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>>47183448
Maybe I am tired, my first cup of coffee is brewing but good morning to you too super cunt. Everyone else was talking about OP's image so I thoguht that is what anon meant.

Why didn't you include an answer for them in your post?
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>>47183434

What are you talking about you spaz? Not only can you not read, you're the autist that's been creating generals early so you can force your tired meme image? These generals somehow keep getting worse.
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>>47183424
I tried it for a while, didn't take.
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>>47183445
40k is a constantly changing game because gw needs to sell models. With changes to these factions there sometimes needs to be changes in the rulebook.
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>>47183443
pretty sure you can still deploy in them if you're the same faction, it's battlebros that can't deploy

>>47183424
4/10, on a side note i might do a 4th of july edition if i remember
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>>47183489
Oh boy! Oh shit! I bet you don't need to buy hobby knifes with those edges! Wowzer! Shaazaaaam! WoWIE! U r 2 cool LOOK-AT-THAT-EDGE
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>>47183467
Naw, 3,5's are mostly point rebalancing and updating rules to match FAQ's
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>>47183529
>pretty sure you can still deploy in them if you're the same faction, it's battlebros that can't deploy
Different detachments (IE formations) are considered battle brothers as per the ally rules. Units from one detachment (Like a CAD) cannot embark on units (IE battlewagon) from another detachment. (IE blitz brigade)
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I keep on getting this error when starting an ork army in battlescribe. Anyone able to assist me?

Message:
There were some problems with your data files. If you continue, this may lead to crashes or other strange behaviour.
> Orks: Codex (2014) v57: The catalogue data file is invalid:
> net.battlescribe.model.catalogue.Modifier@1800bc: Modifier must have a field that exists
> net.battlescribe.model.catalogue.Modifier@187bd31: Modifier must have a field that exists
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>>47183489
How about not being a knee-jerky asshole for one? Secondly, good morning to you too. Too bad my morning was stuck watching shitheads like you post this early. Usually its about mid-day when the shitposters get on. Thirdly, someone had already answered him beforehand correctly without showing off your blaring astigmatism.
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>>47183559
Delete and redownload.
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>>47183567
Delete everything? Or just the data files?
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>>47183573
Delete datafiles and restart
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>>47183573
System 32
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>>47183546
missing a few on that chart. daemons got incursion with fenris, guard got their decurion with one of the tau books and marines got more decurions

>>47183557
welp that sucks
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>>47183581
>welp that sucks
Yeah well, count on a few autistic Ork players making another infopicture proving how bad they are at understanding ru- I mean explaining how the rules still technically allow it all to work.

Can't wiggle out of the turn 1 charges though. That has been clarified so hard by the FAQ that you would have to be so retarded that even reading the FAQ would have been a huge feat.
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>>47183581
I don't count supplements or knights.
Admech/skiitari only got in because together they make a full codex.
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>>47183546
That table hurts every time.
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>>47183546
Tau were around in 3rd? Shit, now I want to set up a 3rd edition game with my Tau.

Are the rules in the mega? My phone refuses to open the link, instead trying to make me download a shitty app for mega.
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>>47183660
Str 10 railsides
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>>47183645
Not sure why. You know your codex will get worse with their 7th edition update, right? Look at Orks. They were competing with you on terms of being the most shit in 6th, and now they hae such a huge lead that you cannot reasonably call CSM the lowest tier anymore. That is solidly held by Orks alone.
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>>47183669
Like in 5th.

Might be fun to use not-shit railsides again though.
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So what'd the FAQ do to orks?
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>>47183691
So are orks shit in table top? I'm very tired and am learning more about it. I like orks
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>>47183704
Rail snipers too.
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>>47183712
Nerfed a lot
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>>47183637
might as well count them since campaigns/supplements since we're not getting a codex soon but i get your view. i don't think there's a rumored codex in the works either. this might be the year of boardgames and age of sigmar

>>47183660
look at firewarrior since it came out about the same time
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>>47183713
they are widely regarded as the worst army on the tabletop currently.
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>>47183713
Yes, they are shit in the Tabletop but their players on the tabletop arent. However, every Ork player on /tg/ is a shitposter.
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>>47183712
You ask the same question every thread.

0/10 apply yourself.
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>>47183660
>Tau were around in 3rd?

I feel old now...
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>>47183734
It would be a Tau who would show up centuries after a battle took place, gather up the skulls, and then try to claim it as a "Victory picture"
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>>47183734
>might as well count them since campaigns/supplements since we're not getting a codex soon but i get your view. i don't think there's a rumored codex in the works either. this might be the year of boardgames and age of sigmar

You can have the excel file and do it yourself.
I CBA to do it, it'll wreck havoc on the system bith multiple supplements per year, multiples for single faction, ones for multiple factions ect.
Hell just the Withchunter/Deamonhunters, SoB/Inquisitors/GK was a nightmare to untangle.
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>>47183234
Loving you even more! Thank you!
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>>47183417
Because people want all of the new stuff that they like whilst complaining about the new stuff that they don't like.

Personally I'd be fine with 5th edition but people want all of the latest toys.

I have kinda gotten used to the list building freedom of 7th - they're going to have a really hard time putting that genie back in the bottle.
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>>47183712
Maybe if you read them and understood your army you would know.

Your only hope is that when they get to the Codex Specific FAQs they don't wreck you anymore.
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>>47183765
actually the tau in that picture did slaughter his way through daemons, marines, guard, spec ops, a vulture, and maybe a dreadnought. he had a nudge from khorne.
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>>47183417
Easier to find other players, and you get new units to use.

That said, if you have a dedicated playgroup, trying out older editions is feasible. You might need to homebrew in some units and options, but otherwise it seems like a good way to mix things up.

I'm currently working on converting some stuff to 2e to try and run it with my group.
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>>47183691
It's the graphic evidence on how little GW cared about CSM.

Picking the second most popular faction seemed like a safe choice at the time.
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>>47183345
Thanks. I got gifted a ton of DA stuff and upgrades when I started with DV, but I like having a fluffy army with a good mix of fire and blades, and still have a 80% hate for the Gav Thorpe emo shit... I think I may paint models to represent the different wings. Aside from the Nikaean rule, Templar crusader tactics feel much more in line with I Legion methods that should have carried down, especially to hint towards Legion building. Ravenwing are great, but I have a personal pref for PA heroics.
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In regards to the waaagh! Ghazghkull detachment - is the speshulist, mekboyz big stuff, runtz and speed freeks formations? Or detachments of any kind?
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>>47183557
The allies section says "this section tells you how models from different faction fight alongside each other" so they don't even apply when you're looking at detachments from the same faction.

Needs to be made clearer.

No grey knights in space wolf drop pods though.
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>>47183839
Just common units that you can take as part of the great waagh
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>>47183345
>>47183345
Thanks. I got gifted a ton of DA stuff and upgrades when I started with DV, but I like having a fluffy army with a good mix of fire and blades, and still have a 80% hate for the Gav Thorpe emo shit... I think I may paint models to represent the different wings. Aside from the Nikaean rule, Templar crusader tactics feel much more in line with I Legion methods that should have carried down, especially to hint towards Legion building. Ravenwing are great, but I have a personal pref for PA heroics.
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>>47183691
I don't even know how they could make the current CSM codex worse beyond increasing the points on shit. Our singular special rule already hurts more than it helps.
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Shitty double post, sorry.
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Why does CSM need a codex anyways

Or daemons or dark Eldar for that matter

Or blood angels
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>>47183880
Because there are a lot of players for those factions, and they are quite different from their parent factions, so they deserve their own books.
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>>47183840
>Needs to be made clearer.
>'ERE WE GO

Can't ba
Blame GW for giving up on you guys. I stopped playing you as well, because i am not here to deal with your special needs.
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>>47183880
Blood Angels honestly could be worked into the main marine codex. CSM could too, with chapter tactics for "renegade/pirate marines", the four Gods for god-specific warbands/legions, and then Word Bearers, Black Legion, Iron Warriors, Alpha Legion and Night Lords. Problem is how many unique units they'd have to include in the book purely for chaos marines.

Daemons definitely need their own codex if they and CSM aren't going to be combined back into one.
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>>47183870
Removing options, nerfing things arbitrarily, giving you detachments with more drawbacks than benefits...
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How would you convince a space marine to join Chaos?
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>>47183916
>removing options
lel what options
>nerfing things
Nothing in the book's good anyways, so it's not like this'd matter
>Giving you a detachment with more drawbacks than benefits
Then we keep using a CAD like we have to now anyways?

Those'd be slaps in the teeth, but the books so shit it wouldn't exactly be worse because of those.
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>>47183880
>CSM

Mainly to represent the various daemonic gifts and other changes CSM get compared to vanilla marines. You could feasibly make it a supplement to the vanilla codex with traitor legions for chapter tactics and special marks and wargear list changes, but it'd lose a lot of personality.

>Daemons

Self explanatory. You could possibly go back to when all of chaos was in one book, but there needs to be at least one.

>Dark Eldar

They're very different from standard Eldar, though they and their craftworld cousins both need a revamp to being them more in line with eachother and give each an actual focus.

>Blood angels

Really doesn't in this day and age. Its sad, but I could easily see them go the way of Black Templars and get a handful of special units and options in the main codex.
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>It's a chaos themed thread
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>>47183928
show them how much their work has actually been for chaos, lie to them, corrupt them, give them power. it's not that hard corrupt most factions and marines have a high turn over rate
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>>47183982
>lie to them
Why lie when Chaos is the only truth?
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>>47182343
>>47182414
Is the sequel to Warzone Fenris out already?
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>>47183928
I believe >>47183982 has the right idea. They need to understand that Chaos is everywhere and everything.
Also skulls, even the Emperor liked skulls.
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>>47183900
The FAQ needs to be made clearer.
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>>47183929
Orks are way worse than CSM. Trust me, it can get worse.
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>>47183103
I always wanted to do that with a guard army. Like an artillery regiment someone neglected to issue artillery to. Or a regiment of mechanized infantry, who got Russes instead of chimeras.
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>>47184022
I think he means stuff like 'Oh, please don't use that Daemon sword against me! Its my one weakness!'

And then the sword corrupts them because Daemons.
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>>47184034
It can't be any clearer, unless they go full kindergarten on you.

How are you using proper English grammar, when you clearly don't understand the language?
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>>47183103
They got orders to found a new chapter in a region of space, but some of the paperwork got lost. Thus, on 3 worlds in the same system are 3 separate chapter startups that have been given the same name and iconography
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>>47184064
Theory of mind.
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>>47178765 #
Thanks. I was thinking of giving them an Autocannon but that looks like a better buy.
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>>47183839
no you can't take them to supply your cooke cutter CAD with free heavy weapons and or elite slots
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>>47183910
Working CSM into Vanilla SM is too messy imo, better off working CSM into Codex Chaos and merge Daemons, CSM, etc.

Blood Angles though, they could be worked in with a little more work.
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>>47183928
Play up the "the gods reward the strong" angle. Loyalist Marines are born fighters who don't get much in the way of thanks from those they save. A villain could play on this, offering rewards and glory from the gods instead of servitude to a distant corpse
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>>47183149
Imperial Knights Renegade comes with rules for using renegade Knights as a detachment for your armies. Dark Angels using anything else wouldn't be fluffy.
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>>47183928
It's not hard. Merely promise them power. Examine their history, you can sway different chapters in different ways.

Like reminding a Librarian of the Blood Ravens who their true primarch is, and that he promises knowledge, power, immortality, and the freedom to steal all they could wish for (all things he actually does provide)
All they would have to lose is their servitude to the corpse Emperor.
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>>47183982
>it's not that hard corrupt most factions and marines have a high turn over rate
>cadians and other IG posterboys have almost 0% heretic rate
breddy good , emperors finest my ass
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>>47183910
That would make CSM just some spiky Marines.

That's exactly what most of us don't want.
Flavour is the only thing we have left.
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>>47184102
CSM into vanilla would be easy

First, make a bunch of legion tactics. This would include things like mark benefits, access to cult troops, and stuff like that.

Then, make upgrade options for certain units to make them into Chaos versions. For example, Vanguard Veterans would have an upgrade to give them the Daemon special rule, but preventing them from taking ranged weapons. Maybe make them Beasts as well if they don't take Jump Packs. Then they can be Possessed if they're on foot, or Warp Talons otherwise. Same deal with other Daemon units.

Dinobots are the only really hard thing to transfer over, but even that's not too tricky. The Helsrake and Defiler can each get a slot, and the Fiends can share an entry that allows some mix & matching.
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>>47184158
The real question is what is their commisar causality rate...

Feel Space Marines need to start a Chaplain-Commissar exchange program to teach them how to actually snip Chaos in the bud.
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>>47184161
Sorry mate, but we already basically are spiky marines. All our equipment is equivalent to a loyalist piece of equipment in behavior/role, Marks are worthless 90% of the time, and Icons are forgettable with the exception of the Totally-Not-An-Apothecary Slaaneshi one.
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>>47184033
Oh great, a CSM themed general picture.

>TMW the general picture hits the climax of irony as the faction with the most shitposters represents the biggest meeting ground of shitposters.
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>>47183880
A better question is why doesn't anyone make a Ninth Age style alternate codex for these armies?
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>>47184164
Going as in too much work as in:
Hey here are your allies... unless you use this in which case use this.

Here’s your weapon / upgrades.... unless you used that in which case use that. Not including the fluff half.

If you said make Chaos Space Marines a SUPPLEMENT instead of trying to shove them into the main book that would work MUCH better.
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>>47184214
Its coming...
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>>47184158
the ratios are weird. inquisitors have a really high turn over rate due to being around chaos a lot, at least half of all marines turn each year. i really doubt the guard turn less. what does your regular man have that a living weapon doesn't?
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>>47184243
Stop, these are bad. The meme images as cancerous as you make them out to be serve as milestones in /tg/'s history. Each head added for a new faction or major 40k /tg/ event. You can have a wallpaper thread at >>>/WG/
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>>47184276
These are terrible.
and someone will end up using them
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>>47184033
>>47184243
These are kinda cool, though I don't care what the general image is. But it does give me a good chuckle when people whine about a picture
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CSM codex when?

This is getting fucking silly.

I mean look at this shit. We're trying to do battle from a book literally written 10k years ago.
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>>47184249
> i really doubt the guard turn less
fluffwise stuff like the cadians and scions have almost no desertion rate
it's a bit contradictory
a superhuman with indoctrination turns 50/50 a regular human with indoctrination doesn't all that much
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>>47184301
>>47184243

They could be worse. It has the logo, general and at least a variance or art. Any idiot with paint can make their own.
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>>47184241
I did say to make them a supplement. There are enough chapter tactics and unique rules between them that you'd want the extra space, but the basic rules would suit them just fine.

Not sure if its the best option, but it could be done. I'd personally like it for the chance to run lightly armored gladiator neophyte CSMs using the Scout rules.
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>>47184358
Not until next year,, apparently.

We might get something in Fenris mk 2, but I doubt it. More likely, Fenris 2 is going to be Grey Knights and Blood Angels.
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>>47184358
Q3-4 2017 according to the two proven reliable sources of info. Give up on CSM man. You know damn well it will be a mediocre update at best. Just look at the releases over the past year. Do you see anything reassuring here.
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>>47184429
Now that's a Draigo that I could get behind.

If you you happen to know what I am saying familiam.
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>>47184372
Ah. I read it as rolling CSM (and Blood Angels) into Codex: Space Marines, similar to what happened to Black Templars.
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So, these guys come in packs of 3-6 and have a laser gun that can combine with other laser guns to shoot a bigger laser.

...anybody else wanna paint them as a Sentai Team? Spectre Rangers!
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>>47184477
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>>47184417
>>47184429
>>47184466
>>47184477

Did you get triggered into shitposting? At least the original anon was trying to use actual art.

Fuck off.
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>>47184512
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>>47184512
Yeah I did. I'm a fucking faggot, holy shit xDDD!
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>>47184429
>>47184466
You can stop going to devianart now

>>47184477
Oh god what the fuck

>>47184502
Uh negro what
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>>47182164
It isn't a rumour. FW confirmed couple of years ago they'd get rules and models. Burning of Prospero is the first rules for them which might be next book but nobody knows.
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>>47184545
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>>47184536
Enjoy your ban.
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Wow I posted three images and this asshole just shat up the thread, huh?
>>47184537
>I'm a fucking faggot

That now goes without saying.
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>Dark Eldar attack a Tau outpost
>Aun'shi stands his ground and orders the civilians to run
>Aun'shi holds them back as long as he can, in order for the civilians to escape
>he puts himself in dangers for their sakes
>after a prolonged duel he is poisoned and captured

>In the the Dark City he fights in arenas until one day he refuses to fight anymore for the amusement of degenerate cretins
>The Dark Eldar throw Tau civilians into the arena to coerce him to fight
>it works, Aun'shi rushes to the arena and jumps in. Once again endangering his life for the sake of civilian Tau.
>he fights and rescues the civilians from danger
>while in the cells, Aun'shi comforts the civilians and tells them never give up believing in the Greater Good not even this accursed place
>He tells them he is their guardian and he will always be there to protect them

And you guys keep saying that the Ethereals are evil.
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:^)
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>>47184596

>they will never finish this short story series
>meanwhile Space Wolves get 2 different short story series about how their Chapter Master was missing, once before the Fenris campaign and one during
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>>47184624
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I'm still confused why they did Curse of the Wulfen novel, which was brilliant, then go "lol fuck do a proper sequel, let's just do 5 shitty short stories". Short stories aren't the place to kill off major characters.

>>47184628
Which book was Logan missing in? I've only read CotW and it's brilliant, David Annadale is growing on me all the time.
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>>47184624
I wan't this as the next general picture.
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>>47183819
I think anon is referencing the fact that all those skulls have bleached white which only happens after a fair period of time after death.
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>>47184662
I feel it accurately reflects the state of the general
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Never have I seen such blatant shitpost spamming get more (you)s than this. You should all be ashamed.
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>>47184651
I have been following BL for a while.

These short story series act like countdowns for releases. Call of Archaon lead to the Everchosen battletome, the Wulfen series lead to the Curse of the Wulfen, etc.

One wonders what big release the Red Path series (Kharn vs Abaddon) is counting down for.
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>>47184596
Just like how all Space Marines are Lamenters / Salamander tier of compassion...

Oh wait exceptions exist
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>>47183819
>he had a nudge from khorne.

You mean he had a nudge from a Tzeentchian daemon.
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>>47184689
>lamenters
i thought about trying to paint a few of those as an allied detachment but then i looked at the BA kits and saw they have that stupid blood with wings molded on their shoulder
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>>47184429
>>47184466
>>47184477
>>47184502
>>47184536
>>47184537
>>47184545
>>47184576
>>47184624
Why? Just why?
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Can the tank decurion in Angels of Death be used by any chapter tactics? If so, what's the best?
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>>47184476
Someone else might have suggested that. Not sure. I think a supplement t would be enough for CSM. Blood angels could feasibly be put in the codex like templars, but they'd lose a fair bit in the process
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>>47184732
You know why, dont give him more responses.
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>>47184688
That's odd. I don't usually go on BL as I don't like paying for the short stories, as they're not very good. Plus the other annoying thing? The Primarch Collection coming out is limited. Well, I don't want to miss them, so I want a subscription, yet they don't offer this. Annoying.

But maybe you're right, I need to download these short stories, I hate reading on PC as it is. If they were physical, I'd be happy.
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>>47184537
While this guy may be able to read my thoughts, I dont like how he is stealing my (yous)
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>>47184596
Warzone: Commorogh when?
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>>47184748
Probably Iron Hands, since I think the supplement clarified their Tanks still have IWND.
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>>47184768
I'm simply a parasiteposter. A being lower than a shitposter. I claim (yous) by suckling onto the tit of a shitposter's success. Thanks famalampai.
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>>47184794
Thats not my tit, thats my sweat pimple.
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I need to test color schemes. What is the cheapest model I can buy fuck with?
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>>47184852
Dawn of War 1.
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Looking to make some 40k skeletal guardsmen. Anyone here have a recommendation? It'd be a renegade chapter, of home brew. Maybe have them nurgle affiliated? Anyone got any cheep sources of skeletons that are to scale? I'm thinking warhammer fantasy stuff.
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>>47184852
Ebay.

>>47184794
There are a lot of those in /tg/.
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What is the most efficient way to cut off solid parts from a model? I wanna buy a pack of 4 Boyz and attach my spare Burnas on them, but they come with one solid arm. How can I chop it off without fucking up the remaining surface?
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>>47184856
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/warhammer-skeleton
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>>47184884
Xacto knife with pressure. Practice cutting into similar lengths of spure to get the right pressure down for the cleanest cut.
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>>47184884
GW lies on the boyz box, they have 11 models, one of them being a nob. It's far cheeper to get the boyz in a box, especially if you buy second hand. anyway, to answer your question, use a razor knife.
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>>47184884
hedge trimmers
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>>47184769
>New Dark Eldar stuff based around their heavier defensive units with formations to take some of the glass out of their cannon, along with arena units like beastmasters and wyches to make them more useful
>New Tau stuff focused on Aun'Shi leading a rag-tag group of the Air, Earth, and Water caste civilians, with new units for each, focusing on a lightly armored but teamwork oriented force.

Want
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>>47184894
or jewelers saw.
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>>47184896
Nah, there is a smaller box that is specifically 4 models. They are cheap, but they're just snap fit crap, and they get no customization options.
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>>47184957
Anon, I know. Unless the prices went up or you can get them at a discount, it's not worth it.
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>>47184981
Ah right, I misunderstood. Yeah, I know about the 11 piece, but I'm tight on money and I just wanna get the value out of the loota/burna box. Thanks for the advice though.
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>>47185020
anon, if you want cheepness, learn how to recast. it's not hard. a brick of oyrumaru, some legos, and some resin will make lotsa boyz
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Why does anyone play over 2000 points if not playing an actual Apocalypse game. I went into the shop to pick up some paints and a character I needed and these two guys were playing 4000 points each.

I could probably field it if I allied my armies together but I don't think I would ever want to.

Only one of them had a Knight but the other guy had 5 fliers.

I don't think I could tolerate how long such a game would play out.

How about you all?
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>>47184358
No new codex for more than a year. We'll get Decurions with Curse of the Wulfen 2, and "Tzeentch Daemonkin" will likely come out before the new CSM codex.
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Has Gw not already stated they will no longer be releasing full codices?
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>>47185245
literally what?

I have never heard that.

Maybe it is a misunderstanding from an AoS response.
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>Latest White Dwarf talks about organizing AoS games
>Mostly shit, encourging things like simply throwing down the same number of models or "whatever is in your collection"
>welcomes 40k players to do the same thing

yelp, how many of you are ready for Age of the Emperor?
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>>47185234
It sounds like the type of thing that might be fun once in a while, but I'd want to do it with multiple players on teams. That'll make turns go faster if its 2 or 3 people moving around 4k points rather than just 1.
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>>47185234
I've tried a 4500 point game arranged like a small event with a friend,
Played one or two turns, had a beer and watched a movie together, then went back to the game.
Works allright as long you have a gentlemens agreement to curb the possible bullshit you can pull at that point limit.
>>47185245
Niggah wat.
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>>47185234
I've seen a fairly serious 2500pt game. But all 3k+ games I've seen have been at the monthy apoc even and those are full on crazy pt numbers.
There is one this week that's going to be about 12k per side.
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>>47185298
AoS is getting points, so why would 40k suddenly lose them shitposting frogposter?
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>>47185357

Wow, GW really 180'd on the whole 'forge your narrative' thing. Were sales bad or something?
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>>47185298
>just throw down the same number of models
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>>47185371
okay, first 'forge your narrative' is used on 40k well outside it's intended purpose.
if you've got a good group of people who like playing together you will start making lists and ideas for missions that aren't necessarily balanced but are a cool story.

Second, they did get a new CEO, and started doing a lot of things the old guard would never consider.
Releasing the first draft of an FAQ on social media for community comment and review?
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>>47185371
But they never said that they wouldn't put points.

You realise that 1st and 2nd edition WHFB didn't have points or many rules, right?
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>>47185234
My most recent game was also my largest at 3500pts but since we are still both novice players made a fair share of mistakes and when the veterans arrived they just shook their heads at our wrongness.

2000 is probably the average for my shop though. My game this weekend will be 3000 though.

I think there is too many cookie-cutter armies below 2000pts and no one I have faced has been overly WAACy (though a small handful of cunts) and there are around 30 active 40k players here.
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>>47185454

Both GW and the AoS community acted like removing points was god's gift to gaming and heavily pushed the narrative gaming. Don't be coy and think GW couldn't have mentioned they'd be bringing points back any time during the last year the game has been out, especially to placate all the rumbling from part of the fanbase.

I would not be surprised if lacking sales had something to do with it. Seems like they want part of the fanbase back that they told to fuck off with all the 'narrative forging' they were pushing.
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>>47184064
Well obviously its not clear enough since lots of people are misunderstanding it.

Two detachments from the same faction are not battle brothers since the allies rules apply to models from different factions.
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>>47184359

Personally I'm chalking it up more to the fact that most Space Marines are functionally immortal and so live long enough to get to a point where they might decide to turn traitor versus Guard where most of them will die long before they even have an inkling of heretical thoughts.
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>>47185445
Releasing an FAQ worth a damn as well. Some very important issues were settled and maybe this place will look less like the floor of the Roman Senate.
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I thank GW for the FAQ as it means I never have to see that autistic 5 page Blitz Brigade infogram ever again.
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>>47185566
>Some very important issues were settled and maybe this place will look less like the floor of the Roman Senate.


Lets not get ahead of ourselves with wishful thinking. I would settle for this general to look less like a Roman Toilet.
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>>47183870
>Our singular special rule already hurts more than it helps.

Eh, Champion of Chaos is completely in line with the fluff, and Chaos Boons is also. I personally don't want those to go away.

If anything, I want MORE fluffy rules, and bonuses for going mono-god and Undivided.
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>>47185397
Every time this picture is posted, I remind people in a WD a few years ago, they did a race mini-game rule thing.
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>>47185609
Mob rule's in line with the fluff too, doesn't mean it's not a terrible rule that hurts orks more than it helps.
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>>47185566
well, that still happens. I mean I had a 3 hour debate with someone over why the ruling that jet/jump/skimmer moves not counting verticle movement was entirely consistent with brb.
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