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Guys, be honest. Would you game with anyone from /tg/?
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Guys, be honest. Would you game with anyone from /tg/?
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>>47166270

I found my gaming group on /v/, so sure.
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>>47166270
I would play with you, anon.
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You all give me the fucking creeps

So yeah.
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Depends on what they're like after I meet them irl. Not being able to show up at a meeting place within 15 minutes of my apartment is an automatic disqualification.
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>>47166270
The best roleplayers I ever made friends with, I found on an ERP forum.

Sadly, they're actually magnitudes better about keeping their magical realms in their pants when it's time for a serious game than most of the anime/videogame crowd, and even some "normal" people I've invited to stuff I've hosted online.
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I prefer gamers who actually play games.
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>>47166270
I found a cool gaming group through the thread finder. The only thing preventing me from runnning a game is my fear of fucking up because I'm not a native english speaker, otherwise I'd be glad to.
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Everyone I play with also browses /tg/

So, yes
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>>47166270
Most of my games recently have been with sup/tg/ nerds, so yeah.
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>>47166451
You can run a game as a non-native, even if it's sluggish at first, and eventually it turns into a nice exercise in fluency.
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>>47166270
I mean, how self-loathing was I feeling at the moment?
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>>47166270
Yes. I wish half my players got half as into roleplaying their character as some of the posters here.
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>>47166515
You're posting on /tg/, so at least six out of ten an heroes.
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>>47166508
I dunno man, pace is essential, and I wouldn't want to slow things down every time I have to ask someone to repeat themselves. It's tempting though. I might give it a try when I'm done with my current stuff.
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>>47166270
I play with folk from /mlp/ and they seem pretty chill. How bad can Fa/tg/uys Possibly be?
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>>47166602
I had the same worries but things turned out pretty nice. It's worth trying.
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>>47166659
I'll give it a shot then, thanks for the advice.
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>>47166270
I run a pretty successful group of people found on Gamefinder threads. The trick is to just know when to cull the shitty people
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>>47166270
Depends on the setting
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>>47166803
How and when do you do this "culling".
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>>47166837
When they start to be a problem. Preferably within the first few weeks after bringing them into the fold, it can get awkward if it's longer than that.
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I would and I have.
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I had sex with a trap from here and we played Magic before we did it, does that count?
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>>47166270
Damnit I lost the pic I had saved about how one of my friends tried gamefinder and wound up in NOT!Hogwards with someone's futa and the dmpc fucking loudly and describing everything over voice. The one that ended with "I had a crush on you" from the dm.

That pic sums up my views.
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I already do. I'm lucky that the GM and the 5 other guys are probably the best of what /tg/ has to offer.
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>>47166270
No, probably not.
Some funny memes here, but I mostly play just with people I am already friends with. Also, there's a lot of TG that are too creepy, too /pol, or too "purist" when it comes to the canon of various settings.
Actually, scratch that. There's a lot of really impressive model work on here, so I *would* play a wargame with a tg guy with little hesitation, but I probably *wouldn't* play an rpg with someone I met through this board without some hesitation.
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>>47166270
What I've noticed is that my best and worst groups had a high percentage of /tg/ players. There's rather little in between.
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Some of you, sure. Not many, but some.
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>>47166270
The three separate groups that I play with most online have all been pulled from /tg/ as a grand majority, so yes.
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>>47166987
This guy sums up my feelings too. A wargame, yes, but not an rpg.
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>>47166270
No. I actively avoid other 4chan browsers, and will generaly go out of my way to kill players in online games that I know are part of 4chan guilds. I don't hate on people who are cool, and later find out they are channers. However if the first thing you say is in regards to this site, you are probably a meme spewer.
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>>47166270
No, because:
Im queer, i'm a feminist, I'm anti-racist, I don't like 40k, MTG, or optimization-obsessed play in my RPGs.
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>>47167369
>No, because:
>I belong on tumblr, not 4chan
FTFY
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>>47166270
Yeah sure.
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>>47167369
Then why are you on 4chan, you fucking degenerate?
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>>47167386
Eh, not everyone here is terrible, I just question the odds of finding a decent /tg/er in the wild. Regardless, I find good content here, even if I'm not an autistic white-pride-spewing MRA hikikomori
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It's really easy to find if the /tg/ player is worth playing with.

Ask them their opinion on Pathfinder, if they use the words "tier," "OP," or "supremacy" then they're an antisocial shitlord 100% of the time.
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>>47167427
cuz fuck you
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>>47166803
>The trick is to just know when to cull the shitty people
>cull the shitty people

This one hundred thousand times. I know lots of great RPers on /tg/. The only time I have seen /tg/ games fail is when the GM is a spineless doormat niceguy that lets one player ruin the game for four great players.
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>>47166919
story?
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Honestly, I really want to play a have with a heavy, neckbeard, metagame edge lord. Because all the best stories have one.
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Yeah, some of you guys are pretty cool. The important thing would be making sure we agree on the game and tone first.
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>>47166270
Can and have! Mixed bag. Biggest problem is just flakes, but I've been guilty of that myself for assorted reasons, folks have lives.
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>>47166270
I have gamed with a few people on /tg/, and they were pretty good overall. I think I'd enjoy playing with them more than the groups at my college - half newbies, half people who crunched numbers on websites, and first time DMs with the idea of roleplaying barely being brought up.
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>>47167446
What if someone won't say those words because they know they trigger you?
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>>47167446
>mfw a guy I played Pathfinder with complained that monks were OP and wizards were useless until 8th level
>he was a wizard and by 4th level he was knocking out just about everything we came in contact with and making fights unfun 'hit the things that won't hit back'
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>>47167645
You mean they are socially adept and avoid saying retarded things that normal people know are untrue and unimportant? It sounds like it works perfectly.
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In my experience /tg/ is both the most friendly and the most educated board, so if I had to play with people from any board it'd be /tg/. /a/ a distant second.

/tg/ also happens to be the most normalfag board though
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>>47167675
Yes.

Because my grief with Pathfinder is caster supremacy so I will inevitabily use that word when you ask me about my opinion about it. But if I know that you dislike the use of that word, I'll avoid saying it of course. And I'm sure there are a lot of other people that will do the same.
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>>47166270

Some of my current group browse /tg/. I don't think we knew for sure each other were fa/tg/uys, but I at least, suspected (I'm sure they suspected me too. I'm actually the weirder one, so...).

In any case, I think we're pretty good friends now, and the games have been really fun.
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>>47167715
You're assuming that you know that normal human beings dislike the use of buzzwords.

And once again, self-control is indicative of some kind of social proficiency.
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>>47167709
I'd argue it's not normalcy, but a veneer of it that's been gained from years of basically amateur acting. I'd far rather that than /r9k/ and its madness.

Though I would also argue that people should browse other boards more instead of isolating themselves from the wider community of 4chan. Isolation and stagnancy is akin to death more than any influx of newfaggotry.
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>>47167729
I would just advise you to tell someone if you have a gripe with some words, to give them a chance to avoid using those words.

Correcting people will also show you their true colors: if they reject your correction, they are stupid and you shouldn't waste time with them.

My advice is this: tell people if you have a problem with something, before assuming that they are a shitlord.
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>>47167790
>I would just advise you to tell someone if you have a gripe with some words
That's not the point? It's not about having a problem with "words," it's just a simple way to identify obvious social flaws that would be detrimental to a social event with a person.
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I'd probably be a bit more thorough than usual with the vetting process, but other than that, sure, why not.
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>>47167446
What if they don't know threefinder at all?
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i would in a heartbeat, there's a lot of you who speak of wonderful times and amazing games. I want to try one.
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>>47167386

>only I decide who gets to be here
>somehow I've decided I'm special

I wish people would fuck off with this attitude.
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>>47168315
And we all wish you would fuck off period, tumblrina.
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>>47168326

I'm a different poster, dumbass.
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>>47168348
Lol, damage-control on an anonymous image-board.
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>>47168348
I was still right in calling you tumblrina.
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>>47166270
Three (not counting me) of my five person group are fa/tg/uys, with the lone normie being another player's girlfriend, who browses /cgl/

Might be starting up with another group too.
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>>47168364

I'm sorry I triggered you by saying you weren't special, anon.
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>>47168508
>not taking pride in one's normalcy
Cry me a river, whore.
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>>47166270

Nope.
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>>47166270
A lot of people would probably love to be a part of the All-Guardsmen Party.
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>>47166270
I've tried it three times.One had party PvP in the first session for literally no reason other than the knight being noble and turning away a gift of 10 gold from an old man be helped (it was a kingmaker/settlement game and everyone started with 1000 gold). I was the knight that time and was literally attacked by players who wanted to kill my character for turning down pocket change from a poor old guy who actually probably needed it.

The second time I was DM to a group of people who refused to talk other than in combat in a social game. Including two characters who joined a crew despite being lone wolves who hate working with other people. It was the most awkward time I have ever had on an online tabletop game. And the third time I quit before we started because I gave out a PDF for setting information, specifically told them not to make characters based off of it because it was imbalanced as fuck and I wasn't going to use it for anything other than setting info, and they proceeded to make characters based on rules solely within that PDF.
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I've been playing with dudes from /tg/ for quite some time now. They're level headed and wonderful people.

I love you Joseph, Ed, and Roberto.
Get fucked,Donn.
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>>47167369
-1Str/10
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>>47166939
I remember that, lemme check my images.
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>>47168570
I would cut off my pinky and eat it if it meant that I could play with Shoggy's GM (or someone like him) for the rest of my life.
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Alright, it's a long shot but here goes, is there any gaming groups located in Orange County? I'm from 714/949 area, me and my lady friend are looking for people to play with. We always buy board games but have really no one to play with other than family parties playing fucking munchkin. We just recently bought Eldritch Horror, Dead of Winter and that kickstarter Ghostbusters game. We'll even be down for DnD. Will check thread for replies.
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>>47167837
In my experience, those words have nothing to do with being a shitlord or not, is my point.
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>>47166451
You should be more scared of becoming the perma-GM.
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I'd love to play with you guys, even though it meant I had to watch what I posted on here.

Also I want to prove to you that not all fa/tg/irls are awful hambeast drama queens like the threads suggest
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I found all my friends on an ERP forum, we've been playing tabletop games together for over five years.
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>>47170230
Do you prefer DG or EGG?
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>>47170271
I have no idea what those mean. We haven't really kept up with the community we came from given it became cancer.
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>>47166451
I think by now a lot of us native speakers are so used to listening to non-native speakers stumble through our language already that it's not as big of a deal as you think it is.

But I mean I don't know the perspective of everyone ever so I could be wrong.

also >>47166508 It's how I worked on my speaking skills in Spanish.
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>>47166359
I'm a big fucking furry and I've never played a furry character in a P&P or brought up my magical realm, because I know nobody wants that shit.

Furry isn't hte problem, the problem is the autism, which most furries have.
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>>47167789
>Though I would also argue that people should browse other boards more instead of isolating themselves from the wider community of 4chan.

Why would I ever want to experience that?
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>>47170046
but are you a qt hambeast?
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>>47166270
I would if they lived nearby.

I'd game with anyone if they lived nearby :(

Tfw no one to TTRPG or WH40k with basically.
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>>47168326
>we all
> Me, alone with my dick in my hands,
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>>47166270
No. /tg/ can't have any fun. And clearly can't into games.
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>>47166829
underrated post
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>>47170301
Another non-native speaker here.

I'd like to believe you speak truth, but I've always have the feeling my companion's eyes bleed whenever my character is heavily involved in the roleplay. I thank the Dice Gods that the game is text-only and I have some time to proof-read a little when my PC is not a focal point, and that it's not a voice-only game.
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>>47167386

>uses FTFY

Okay redditurd stop trying to fit in with the 4chaners by being an edgy faggot. We're all shit anyways.
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>>47171271
I mean, I'm not saying it's good. I just mean it's understandable.
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>>47171271
I was looking for a Swedish game on Roll20 for exactly this purpose. I failed thoroughly at finding one.

Damn swedes and their english fluency.
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I'd love to, but no.
I'm an annoying person, and I can't remember rules for shit. They would feel like they were babysitting me the whole time.
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I wish I just wish I had someone to play with
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>>47171358
Are you a nice person?
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>>47166270
Yeah.
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>>47166359
>>47170350
It seems people who can ERP or have another outlet for their fap material are more adept at keeping it separate from proper games.

Probably that's also how they can make stuff that might be magical realm seem more practical because they don't focus on the lewd shit.
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Fuck no.

People here are creepy weirdos who seek acceptance from story threads by hyperbolizing the shit out of everything that happens during the game to make it seem more interesting. And to boot that people cry about every system or cry about people who play their system not playing it correctly because they are the sole judge of the whole community as a whole.
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Always wanted to hang out with guys from /tg/ again haven't done that since livestreaming movies was a thing
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>>47171428
Well you're a lot of fun aren't you?
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>>47171378
I am, just moved a lot over the past few years
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>>47172023
This is my problem. Moved continents, shit at local language, no friends.

Such is life.

I don't know anyone other than myself and my spouse who's interested in playing TTRPG irl.
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>>47170821
It prevents the factionalism and board rivalry that tends to spring up when people actually know what boards are like. Experience is always a great teacher.
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>>47166270
Both of my gameing-groups for years are made and/or found in the gamefounder threads. I don't regret it as I have good groups that is always willing to try out something new.
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>>47166270
Sure. But I'd much rather invite two people from /pol/ and another two from /lgbt/ and just see what happens.
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>>47172256
That sucks. I wish my wife wanted to play more games with me. She's really casual though. No wargaming for me
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>>47172511
I've had the opposite experience.

All my failure online games were found in Game Finders, which are cesspools so I can't recruit there. All my successful online games were found in miscellaneous threads, where I guess people actually have genuine interest in whatever subject.
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>>47172560
We basically do everything together all the time. It means I have an almost guaranteed partner for any game, but I sometimes wonder if it hinders us making other friends, since we're always just hanging out with each other.

Also... only one PC in a D&D campaign would be a bit dull maybe.
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I'm pretty sure 2 people from my last group were /tg/ posters. Great guys though.
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>>47172734
At least you guys are best friends. Good luck, anon
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>>47172782
That's another thing - assuming they aren't a memeing faggot, how do you tell if someone in your group is from /tg/ if you didn't meet them there?
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>>47171285
There is nothing wrong with Reddit.
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>tfw worried about giving away too much detail about your character or campaign because someone in your group might post on /tg/ too
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>>47167463
>fail is when the GM is a spineless doormat

Seconding. It's not called Game MASTER for a reason. It's not a job for just anybody. Milquetoast tumblrinas need not apply.
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>>47166270
I would never look for players on /tg/, but happening to also post here isn't a consideration.
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>>47166270
I'd take applications, like I do with all my online games
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>>47173693

It's not reddit, it's redditors. You know how YouTube is okay, but YouTube commenters are the dregs of the world's trailer parks? It's like that. See the distinction?

HTH
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>>47174120
Tell me one place in this whole world about which you can't say "well, it's not the X but the people who are in/use X"
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>>47166270
At least half the group I play with (shit)posts on /tg/, including myself.

So, yes, I suppose.
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>>47174173
Fast food serves its purpose perfectly fine. It's only the shitty people with mental issues that drive all their stupid shit, like pushing health crap. McDonald's fries will never be the same.

There's plenty of otherwise fine FLGS out there, ruined by shitstains. In fact I think it could apply to /tg/ hobbies as a whole.

I guess you could say 'government', even though it's not a place. Maybe it's the same with Crossfit, though I don't actually know anything about it.
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>>47174864
I like the fries better now
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>>47172547
This is asking for bad times and I kinda love it.
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>>47172805

Subtly work in a reference to a /tg/ meme - an elderly questgiver named Henderson, for example - and see if they take the bait.
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>>47168360

>le damage control maymay

I love when people use that for their own damage control posts, the hypocrisy is delicious
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Literally every game I've joined via Game Finder threads failed to even begin. I'm starting to think it's a bad idea.
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>>47166270
Yes
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>>47166270
I game with three people from /tg/

So far so good
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>>47166270
I've had one great group of /tg/ers ever, any other attempts to form a group have flaked out and everyone just vanished instead.
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>>47176055
Fucking this. This board is all a bunch of fucking flakes.
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>>47176528
You two are bad at finding players
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>>47176571
You're right, we really should stop looking on /tg/.
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>>47167837
hey Trigglypuff whats up.
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>>47176528
Having played with and made some fucking fantastic friends playing on /tg/, I have to say that you are just being a realist. My situation was a fluke, and though I'm really, really happy I did it, /tg/ is not a great place to pick up games.
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>>47168911
Your inexperience and lack of self-awareness does not a counterpoint make.
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>>47166270
You're all a bunch of autistic faggots.

It'll be an improvement If I moved into a game with you guys.
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Random people I'm not sure, but I have at least one actual friend who cones here so I can cheat
Jake if you're reading this thread I wish we could do a campaign bro
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>>47166270
I play with a dude who frequents /tg/ and /k/, I'm originally from /k/ and find myself lurking here often enough, another /k/ommando, two randos from god knows where, and some tumblrfag

Been having fun so far. Despite the fact that we generally destroy everything we touch...like all the holy places, towns we pass through, and the occasional sept.
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>>47166270
sure

you can't all be assholes
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>>47170873
No anon, I'm average. Although I could stand to lose a few pounds, mainly because I like pizza more than I like going to the gym.
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>>47167369
>using queer
JUST SAY GAY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I've never played an RPG before, and I don't even know how to really roleplay, so that's stopping me from going on groupfinder threads. I really want to play, but I'm way to nervous to give it a shot

/blog
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>>47179583

One means "I engage in romantic relationships with my own sex", the other means "I don't conform to gender norms". There's a reason there's two words. Stop being a faggot.
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>>47166270
I met my group years ago on /tg/. Nowadays none of them would ever agree to play with anyone who thinks that modern /tg/ is any good.
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>>47179737
TTRPGs can often be a good way to help overcome social anxiety so don't give up yet, anon!
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>>47180810
This. Find a game with an interesting premise, or just hang out with /tg/ folks and see what they're running, and I'm sure someone will be happy to have you as a player.
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>>47166270
To be honest, I have. You guys are decent.
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>>47167433

its you, you're the terrible
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>>47166270
My current group is technically from /tg/, so yes, yes I would. You know, as long as the fucks I'm playing with pass the loli test.
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>>47179870
>There's a reason there's two words.

Because Tumblrinas need to be special snowflakes.
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Okay, okay, here's the trick. Getting people right off the board is 90% of the time going to get you garbage people, so here's what you do.

Don't get your players right off of 4chan. Get them from communities which have grown out of 4chan. Little discord channels, livestreams, etc. which have built up a community and thus filter out most of the shit. 4chan has some of the best people online on it, but you'd never know it if you look at most of the community., because it also has some of the worst. By going to a community which builds itself out of 4chan users but rejects the shit-eaters, you get only the ones capable of functioning in a group.
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>>47179737
Best way to learn is by doing.

>>47179493
That's a shame. Pizza is way better.
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>>47179870
Not going /pol/ here but, no, queer was coopted to mean special snowflake.

It was the catchall term for non-heterosexuals. Gender identity has nothing to do with it.

People act on the spectrum of feminine to masculine. It's a sliding scale. If you can give an example that sits outside those parameters that isn't attributed to some kind of mental disorder then we can talk.

t. Someone old enough to remember being called queer.
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>>47167433
Most of us don't even care about that shit, but when you spew a self righteous chain of labels like you don't even shit that's when we call you an elf and take the opposite stance because you make it so unpalatable to be on the same side.

I'm going to vote Trump specifically to spite people like you, because I'd rather burn it all down then let you tear it apart trying to decide where feels begin and reason ends.

I'm openly bi and a communal capitalist who plays with a couple navy dudes and one guys wife. We somehow manage to not get offended about each other having different political views and socialize around the things we do enjoy together, because we aren't petulant selfish children who can't tolerate dissent.

But I digress, I would give anyone here a chance at least and so long as we have fun playing together I could care less about other shit. It's a gaming group not a marriage.

Anyways, your attitude is why we have secret ballots. Save your politics for the voting booth unless you're willing to have a civil debate and not take it personally, everyone.
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>>47172547
it would probably end up that /lgbt/ will be more /pol/ than /pol/.
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