Never staying gone edition.
>RESOURCES
http://www.mtgcommander.net
>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.tappedout.net
>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh
>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.edhrec.com/
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://manabasecrafter.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
>CARD SEARCHING
http://gatherer.wizards.com/
>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://www.magiccards.info
>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface
How do I Shu Yun artifacts?
>>47163166
Eggs
post em boys
>>47163250
EDH noob here, what exactly am I looking at in this pic? Seems like random commanders don't see the connections
>>47163271
each colored box represents a player
>>47163276
In accordance to what? That's very vague.
>>47163308
In accordance to what decks they have. You're not too bright are ya
>>47163308
Within a playgroup. Each colored box represents a player in my playgroup
>>47163314
So I should know just by the commanders what their deck is?
>>47163334
Most generals fit a certain kind of strategy, you usually don't see Mayael in a deck with no creatures
>>47163334
Check OPs post
Goto edhrec.com
Type in a commanders name
It shows you typically whats in the deck
>>47163250
Green still needs a mono-black deck. I still think it should be Ob Nixilis, the Fallen+99Lands.
>>47163496
he needs a mono green deck, sidisi is his mono black
What do you think of alters?
>>47163562
I'm ok with them if they're well done, which this one is not.
>>47163496
Well, I'm retarded. I should probably go to bed.
>>47163618
Fucking clicked the wrong one eve. Should be >>47163554
Guys, I'm building braids.
Any of you ever built her? How is it to play her? What should I prepare for?
Anyone here run a Kamahl deck? Looks like it would be a cool, simple beatdown deck that shits on wrath effects
>>47163636
Be prepared for someone to drop ula, koz, or blightsteel before you can do anything. Run plenty of "gain control of target creature" cards in there, as well as, of course, huge fatties.
>>47163636
Paradox Haze
>>47163250
>Play with?
>most boring player?
>hate?
Purple is also working on a big black deck, they say it's probably going to be Greel or Toshiro
>>47164052
for me>>47163250
Yellow and pink are the most boring players. Yellow whines about decks that interact with him in any way and Pink is just a boring person. He rarely adds to the conversation and just kinda sits there and plays.
>>47163755
Oh yeah, steal spells will be immensely useful thanks.
>>47163773
Was on the list already but thanks
>>47164052
I'll say it again. Virulent Plague.
>>47163197
I don't understand.
>>47163271
Orange is a waifufag, Green is a cool guy, Yellow tries and I hope he's having fun. Light purple is a faggot.
It's pretty straightforward anon.
>>47164530
cards like pyrite spellbomb and chromatic star combined with second sunrise
>>47163636
Ok, here is my first attempt of a list.
what do you guys think? what should I cut?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/who-can-go-bigger/
>>47163250
Blue is a fag, Green is a bro that needs a green deck, I'm guessing light purple is a noob and everyone else seems pretty chill.
>>47164052
I'd play with Red, Rhys is most boring and, if I had to pick one, I'd hate out purple. Do you have the Chandra list?
Has anyone ever tried Myriad Landscape in a five color deck? It can grab shocks or duals, but being a colorless tap land is pretty rough.
>>47165260
It's a decent early drop to help nongreen decks with ramp but it's an awful topdeck in the mid-late game. Unless you're running Landfall effects.
But that might just be my playgroup, since not much happens before turn 3 or 4
>>47165303
I just realized it can't grab shocks or duals. Hurrr.
Fine for monodecks, but that's it.,
>>47165337
Honestly it's kind of rough in general, considering it takes 2 mana to use, is a crappy land drop and enters tapped so you can't use it for a turn
New cards for Lyzolda? Anyone running that enchantment with the skull swamp that scries? Obviously the new blood artist is a must.
I built an Izzet combo deck
It's awful and badly needs help
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/gateway-to-wizardry/
>>47165303
Its always great to see in omnath of rage landfall tribal. So is terrain generator.
>>47163250
Sisay a best deck.
Anyone out there has built, is building, or knows someone who has built a Glissa, the Traitor deck? Wanted to make a new GB deck after two other guys I know, one whom is in my playgroup, build Meren deck and I didn't want to have the same sort of deck as they did. Didn't want to use Jarad either, cuz I'm tired of the usual graveyard shenanigans and I get all my sac nonsense from Prossh, so Mazirek was right out. So, Glissa. Not sure about my decklist, so please check it out and critique.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/glissas-robot-rock/
>>47163250
>>47166576
>doesn't use sleeves
TRIGGERD
>>47163250
>>47163483
>>47164052
>>47165200
>>47166073
>4/95 are pre modern commanders
Fucking children
If I wanted to build a gross UB control deck, who would you recommend as a comander? I was leaning towards tasigur.
>>47166835
I love this meme
>>47166835
>>47166847
Are you looking for pure Dimir? Or UBx? Dralnu might not be bad
>>47166989
Pure UB for the time being. I'm having trouble finding a comander that I actually want to cast. Something that isn't completely blown out of the water by everything else I could be doing main deck.
>>47166847
Dragon lord Silumgar is cool
Lazav is decent
So, I've been working on my first deck that isn't based on a precon. I have ~90% of the planned cards, but I am having a hard time narrowing it down to something cohesive. I'd like it to be more than just a pile of good stuff.
>>47167348
not enough lands.
>>47167286
Fuck me, lazav would be insane if it worked off any graveyard.
>>47163250
I'm blue.
>>47167371
Definitely
He's still pretty crazy though
>>47167374
Green is a tryhard fag. Tell him 4chan said so.
>>47165674
pls assist
>>47166266
Help me too, plz.
>>47167374
>>47167585
Agreed, Greens a bit of a tryhard. Not too bad, he could be saved, depending on how the decks shake out, but in a void, it's kinda tryhardish.
>>47167632
You need at least $500 worth of lands more.
>>47167644
Looks fineish, though consider a bane of progress along with other boardwipes.
Also, why do you have Cabal Coffers? You have 6 swamps and Urbog, chances of you actually getting anything out of CC are slim to none, unless you run a lot more ramp.
>>47167763
>You need at least $500 worth of lands more
Not enough dosh for Volcanic Island
>>47167788
>Not enough dosh for Volcanic Island
Get good scrub.
But anyway, what seems to be the exact issue?
All the deck seems to be doing is repeatedly doubling spells, but none of these spells are going to win you the game.
Ghoulcaller Gisa is cute! CUTE!
>>47167857
>All the deck seems to be doing is repeatedly doubling spells, but none of these spells are going to win you the game.
And that's my problem. I'm not particularly good at building this type of deck, but I figured I was due for something different/my group agreed we should all build something we're not familiar with and I'm struggling with finding a consistent wincon
>>47167884
No one could ever be pleased with your weak and menile mana base you precon casual.
There, happy?
>>47167788
TCGPlayer has unlimited for 300, revised for 200.
>>47167877
I know you're not supposed to stick your dick in crazy, but I'd make an exception for her.
>>47167915
>settling for anything less than original prints
Wew lad
>>47167915
white bordered
>playable
>self respect
Choose one.
>>47167932
Don't let her brother find out
>>47167933
>>47167947
So I'm guessing neither of you fags will have any issue posting your alpha duals with timestamps, then?
>>47167952
Well, obviously. That's a hit it, then run away to another plane of existence.
>>47167902
So, how willing are you to change the focus of the deck?
Because prowess burn is good.
Other than that, I would start by trimming the fat, taking out cards that don't do anything with your general (like Tezzeret's Gambit and Opt), possibly putting in a few madness cards, since you seem to have a bit of a draw/discard thing going.
>>47167991
I totally wouldn't mind, their even signed by the artists, each card! But I can't due to all the secret tech that's used in them. That and I'd have to take my deck out of its controlled atmosphere just to take pictures.
It's not going to happen, sorry. But I'd love too!
>>47167991
I never said I had them, or really self respect. I do have some relatively high value you lands. If you want I could provide you a time stamp with them. but I own no classic duals.
I don't think I've spent more than 130 on a single magic card.
I love white bordered cards in general, any kind
Can't imagine spending all that money on duals and not getting the borders I like
>>47168071
Dayum I try not to spend more than 30 at a time.
>>47168055
I'm very willing. I like the idea of UR spellslinging and copying, but I'm not great at building it
Also Opt is there for topdeck manipulation, Tezz's Gambit can go
>>47168061
Riiiight.
>>47168071
Fair enough. At least you admit it.
This card is boss for table politics in Gahiji
My group loves free beaters
>>47168147
Run it with primal vigor
>>47168178
Oh fugg that's pretty spicy
Goes well with Ogre Battledriver on your turn too
>>47168096
In which case I would take out about a third of the spell doublers, since you aren't really doing anything with them anyway, and put in stuff like Abbot of Keral Keep, Jeskai Elder, Monastery Swiftspear (this one can wait until it goes down in price), Stormchaser Mage, and a few Prowess like cards, such as Elusive Spellfist and Wee Dragonauts.
I would also put in some actual red burn, like Lightning Bolt, Shock, etc.
That way you can deal with your opponents threats, and with enough doublers, possibly wipe the board.
Speaking of, throw in a Pyroclasm, Sudden Demise, Tremor (because you can double it, and it won't effect most of your stuff because they'll have flying), and other stuff that can be used to both power up your guys and soften up your opponents.
>>47167198
>>47167198
Wrexial, obviously
>>47168272
Monastery Swiftspear is like 1.50. She's only pricy if you want a foil. Also, since she rotated already, I'm guessing the price isn't going down anytime soon.
>>47168335
If you can get her for less than $2, good for you.
>>47168359
Okay, so she went up a few cents. Still not that expensive. I spend more than that on an energy drink.
>>47167877
>>47167932
I don't know if I'd call this cute. Awesome, sure. Scary, definitely. But not cute.
>>47168440
It's just the angle, she actually has a very pretty face.
>>47168449
Scrying me an example anon.
>>47168395
I'm not one to spend more than a dollar or so on cards that aren't really that important to the deck, but if you want to, I'm not going to twist your arm.
>>47168449
She's only pictured on like two cards, and the other isn't a very clear picture.
>>47168131
>>47168092
Here is some of my mana, its all I could be bothered with digging out.
>>47167763
What would you take out for Bane? Also, was thinking of putting in a All is Dust, what can be replaced for that?
>>47168701
I'd consider Merciless Executioner and Fleshbag Marauder, since they are not artifacts, so you can't really recur them with Glissa, and beyond Mazirek and Dictate you get no benefit from sacing your own creatures.
Other choices include Unstable Obelisk, because it's to expensive for anything, Jester's Cap, because it's kinda useless, and Keyrune, because there are better mana rocks.
>>47168695
Oooh. Port, City of Traitors, nice Expeditions. Is that a foil Academy Ruins in the corner?
>>47163054
>mfw Stifling her return trigger
>>47168860
nah, I think its just reflecting the light oddly.
>>47168888
nofun.jpg
Blue shitting the bed again
>>47168888
Mfw stifle the "return the exiled creatures to the battlefield" trigger on ghostway
>>47168833
I can replace Obelisk for Plague Boiler and Keyrune for Pernicious Deed. Jester's Cap is for the combo fags in my group, play testing online has shown it does SOME work, removing key pieces of decks, so I'll think about that.
Executioner and Fleshbag both read "For each opponent, if they control a creature, return target artifact from your graveyard to your hand. Also part of the reason I have Phyrexian Reclamation in the deck too, to recur them. However, I will consider you advice. Any other suggestions? Am sincerely interested in hearing more.
Anyone got a hint for building a casual Mizzix deck? Basically, I want to build "Narset that doesn't make everyone instinctively hate me." Lots of free spells, but acting as a "board police" to trim down my rather high-power playgroup. Toss counterspells like candy, etc. So far, my only wincon is Mizzix Mastery and Talrand to make a load of drakes and swing for lethal, and that's not much of a wincon. I also have Niv-Mizzet and Curiosity, but that only kills one player.
>>47169033
Well, I built a "steal all the things" UR deck, and put Mizzix in charge of that when she came out. Maybe throw in some of those?
What kind of tokens do you guys like to use? Do you print off tokens? Use dice? Real tokens?
>>47169496
If I have a bunch of tokens I use dice, otherwise cards
>>47169496
I make them out of my own back hair. Mostly.
>>47169496
I use as many real tokens as I can until the numbers start getting ridiculous, once they get ridiculous I'll switch to dice.
>>47169496
I use unsleeved cards from my graveyard placed face-down
>>47169496
I use real tokens if they exist, print them off otherwise.
>>47168695
>KTK fetches
>not Onslaught
Filthy scrub. Then again tbf, I'm the only one in my group who actually has the right allied fetches.
>>47169712
I didn't hate khans, I actually pulled pretty much all of those fetches...I also pulled the city of traitors and rishadan port. I did not pull the expeditions though.
>>47169712
>twice the price
>"right"
>>47169565
>>47169523
You have ten 1/1s and one 5/5, how do you denote the difference with dice?
>>47169529
>>47169595
Disgusting
>>47168178
>>47168204
Any token deck should run all of Primal Vigor, Doubling Season, and Parallel Lives.
>>47169795
3 d6
put a 4 and a 6 side by side, touching, then put a 5 or a 1 separately, a 5 if i dont expect to get another 5/5 token for the rest of the game, a 1 if its the first of multiple, that way it counts the number of tokens instead
at that point im just going off memory
but this is why i bring token cards if its a deck that actually plays multiple token types
>>47169496
>Cardsmith
Nigga, why aren't you using MSE2? Shit looks way better.
>>47169795
I use a card for the 5/5
>>47169795
Put dice on real tokens or use different styles of dice. I also use another real token card to separate how many are tapped,
If things really start getting terrible, I use one die for the number of tokens by the name and a completely different die for the +1/+1 counters. This stuff starts getting bad in my Riku deck.
So here I have a 3/3, 3 1/1s untapped with 3 +1/+1s, and 1 1/1 with 3 +1/+1s.
>>47169496
Depends on the situation.
>Limited
Use the appropiate token if I have it. If I have another token of the same p/t use that. If none, a face-down token or an ad copy card with a die on it to indicate p/t
>Casual decks I don't intensley care about, or that make too many tokens
An appropiate token with a die on it to indicate count
>Casual decks I care about that make a sane number of tokens
Appropriate token cards.
>>47169867
MSE2? never heard of it, send me the link
>>47169837
I agree on doubling season and Parallel Lives. But primal vigor it's too dangerous, like coat of arms. Maybe it's because in my meta there are a lot of decks that use tokens and +1/+1 counters, but Primal vigor more times than not is as much as a buff to the opponent than to you. I've lost enought time to Prossh, thank you, he doesn't need his tokens doubled.
My vampiric tutor just came in the mail...woot
>>47170189
i dont like primal vigor for that reason, i just thought it was funny with rite of the Raging storm
>>47169014
Perilous Myr does a shit ton of work in my Glissa build.
What deck should I make first?
Jarad: BG funtimes
or Kresh: ft. Jarad and Old-Drazis?
>>47170361
Meren featuring Jarad and Nath and Golgari Queen and etc..
Worthwhile in Purph? Or too risky?
>>47170425
It really depends on what's on the field because I'd probably only play it mid-late game to really just completely bash opponents.
>>47170126
http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/
>>47170394
>Meren Precon already has Jarad in it
Damn shame, then I can't maximize my dosh profit
>>47168147
>play Rite of the Raging Storm
>next player passes turn without attacking
>next player sacs the token, without attacking, to pay for something
>next player attacks me with everything but the token: "anon, when people play cards like that, I just have to take them out"
I can't believe I need to run shit like Fumiko so people will actually use the tokens.
>>47170189
Fair enough. I'm the only real token player in my meta, and if Kraj is at the point of really benefiting from my counters, he'll probably be going infinite already anyhow.
>>47171022
I mean, even though a shit ton of people run her, she just works. The precon deck isn't terrible and it's easy and fun to make better. Do eet.
>>47163647
Which one? The shitty one or the damn good one?
>>47171059
Well, I do have some old Eldrazi like It That Betrays, Oldamog and other Annihilators plus Birthing Pod lying in my Mina&Denn Ramp deck. Good for upgrading Meren?
>>47165260
No it can't. RTFC, it only searces for basics.
>>47171178
Yes....Oh yes.....
>>47171193
And you should read the rest of the fucking posts. He realized that here:
>>47165337
>>47163054
Gonna build Tasigur because I don't like having friends.
I need suggestions
Is there any way to make all lands in play coloured?
>>47171507
You mean something like Celestial Dawn? Or actually making lands have a color identity? Because I don't think you can do the latter
>>47171507
What's the situation?
>>47171553
>>47171507
Darkest Hour and animating all of them. Only legal one. Painter's Servant isn't.
Of course, you can also just animate them all with Kormus Bell and Urborg. Bell was errata'd to make them black 1/1s.
>>47170425
How is it risky in Purph? Isn't it just a guaranteed Purph trigger every turn?
>>47171639
It is, but then you leave yourself wide open for the table to buttfuck you, since most of the token-making spells in red make Goblins
>>47171574
If you wanna stay monobrown, Kormus Bell+Urborg, Tomb to Yawgmoth will work.
>>47171724
Kormus Bell turns them into 1/1 black creatures
>>47171724
Did you even look at the other card?
>>47171666
Isn't the risk then entirely dependent on your group playing red decks with token makers?
Last time I played I was up against two GB decks and an Esper deck.
>>47171762
Oh God are you the "no oracle text" fuckwit?
>>47171336
Careful Study
Careful Consideration
Attunement
>>47171666
Man up andhail Satan
>>47171897
Nice, I'll snag those.
What are some good value creatures I can run?
>>47171762
>Now they can be enchanted, killed, and so forth
This cracks me up for some reason
>>47171949
Sepulchral Elemental is high-cost but good
Should I even bother? I love building tricky commanders
>>47172109
Build what you want, that's half the fun on EDH
Poop out a bunch of tokens then sac them and give him haste
>>47172109
Looks to me like another big red token Commander. I'd throw it in the 99 of a Purphy and sac a bunch of tokens to it to get damage out of Outpost Siege.
![106[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/a3vjae9.jpg "106[1].jpg")
>>47172109
He's basically the worst version of pic related.
>>47172206
But dude, Shimatsu's ONE WHOLE (G) cheaper.
>>47172109
yes, we can
>>47172228
He also sac permanents instead of creature.
>>47172228
Yeah, but he doesn't have the combined token shitting powers of red and green. Just red which is okay, but not great.
>>47172257
No Devour X though...
>>47172450
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/sarcasm
>>47171949
Jin Gitaxis, palinchron, dead eye navigator, rune-scarred demon, anything you might want in the graveyard (filth, wonder, the green card found in the same cycle as the preceding two), other good reanimator targets, life from the loam + strip mine, flashback cards, retrace cards maybe. Go nuts breh.
>>47172206
Fair point. I guess I'll continue looking around Kamigawa for commanders. I've built Mannichi, Kuro, and Myojin of Seeing Winds in the last few months and they've all been a blast.
>>47172486
Got a bit carried away their. Terastodon is good. So is Woodfall primus.
>>47171949
Kederekt Leviathan is cute. Pair it with Necromancy for laughs. Infact, pair Necromancy with your deck. It's fucking awesome. Mulldrifter is a fun one. Let's you get even more value out of your reanimation spells if you need some answers. Speaking of value, dredge cards. Grave troll might be good. Maybe stink weed imp. The thought of "reanimating" loam via Mulldrifter tickles me.
What's the stompiest tri-colour combination? I just want to shit out big fatties and turn cards sideways. I've ran a very successful glass cannon xenagos deck, but I'm wondering if there is some sort of tri-colour setup that'll give me a bit more versatility. My BUG deck is kind of meh, and I`m still massaging it, but I was thinking mardu might be neat, or maybe jund.
>>47172822
Naya is the fatty shard and Temur is the fatty wedge
>>47172822
Naya. GW is the other beatface color combo. Adding white to RG is the logical thing to do if you like 90° turns.
>>47172855
>>47172850
What about this gal? I'm sure some dorks and rocks could get that ability to pop pretty quick, I just think the mana curve might be a little fucked and survivability might be an issue.
>>47168888
Go fuck yourself, ass hole. I'm going to make a deck that pisses you off.
>>47172898
Nah man, just stock up on some dope green spells. Fix you right up. Mayael seems solid. I would recommend Marath. It's a great creature you can beat down with that has a bunch of utility strapped to its back.
>>47172822
Animar, Soul of Elements can let you play Eldrazi for free if you can go off
>>47172999
Animar was one I was considering because I have a whole bunch of +1/+1 token abuse, I'm just not sure how U works in a beat down deck to be quite frank. I always wind up playing U like B W and G mixed together, and it never works the way I want it.
>>47172991
I have a fuckload of good green spells, and Marath seems pretty sexy, but the problem I have is the cost related to doing damage. I can easily dump a bunch of counters on him, but he doesn't have any avoidance built in which worries me a bit, and to nuke someone I wouldn't be getting good value unless there is some easy infinite mana combo I have no idea about.
>>47173100
Mayael doesn't have any protection either and requires a turn before she's live. Marath just needs mana. Not even a lot of it though it doesn't hurt. Don't be hesitant to use him more moderately than you might have envisioned. No need to go balls out loading him up with counters. That will happen naturally as you cast (and kill) him. A little goose doesn't hurt though. I'm sure your already thinking doubling season but my friend also runs hardened scales to great effect. Don't underestimate smaller effects. Marath also has the ability to quite fluidly switch gears from offense to defense and back again. You won't get that kind of flexibility from Mayeal.
>>47173242
And let me be clear, Marath WANTS to die. That's how you easily get more counters on him. My bro frequently zeros him out for value and recasts him for more counters.
Should I be running a bunch of haste enablers in Purphoros? His damage paired with attacking as fast as possible seems like the route to victory
>>47173242
>>47173291
That's actually a very reasonable position, I forgot it would stack if I had to recast it. I think you're right, if I ran Mayael, it would just be a suped up slower xenagos beatdown with better white support, but Marath seems very versatile. What kind of build would you put around him? I think a whole bunch of beat-down creatures that are difficult to remove and use him as a means of setting up a neat creature based fort.
Post cards that make you cry.
Pic very much related, particularly since it's almost always followed by a crackling doom.
>oh ya, my janky ass setup is finally going to pay off, let me swing for 10,000 damage and relish the maximum overkill
>>47173378
If it were me, I'd build a control deck and load up on all the sweet hate naya has available. Conceivably you could use Marath as your sole beater. Just run plenty of artifact/enchantment destruction and some hate effects. But that's because I'm the UBG to my bros RGW. However you do it, just be sure to pack disenchant. Pithing Needle is cute.
>>47163250
Rate em boys
>>47173340
You can. It'd require some setup, but Ogre Battledriver, In the Web of War and Anger would be gross with 1/1 tokens. Archetype of Aggression turns them into 5/1 Ball Lightnings that ping for 2 apiece when they enter.
>>47172495
You seriously built Mannichi? Awesome. Have a list?
>>47171574
Shit. Good thing I just put in All is Dust in my Rakdrazi deck. I really need to fix that shit up, however. It was my first deck so it's really garbage. Maybe if I alter it to include more older Eldrazi. But I'm having so much more fun with my new deck I don't plan to return to big creatues for some time.
>>47173708
>Dralnu
Mah nigga.
>>47170361
The problem I've had with Kresh and Shattergang is that I find myself using only 5 cards that use red, all of which could be easily replaced. Hell, I use Mazirek now instead of Kresh.
I'd say go full Jarad. You got combo potential and he himself can be a a threat in the red zone.
>>47173708
>>47172495
Have you built Godo?
>put off buying Pyromancer's Goggles a few months ago when it was a bulk mythic
>fucking exploded to $20
What the fuck
Are there any good sac outlets for artifacts and enchantments in UW? I've got Trading Post but I wanted something that I could sac Hatching Plans and Brittle Effigy to in one card. Teferi's Care and that 5ed clone of kt are alright but I was hoping to be able to dac both in one card repeatedly. If it isn't obvious I'm aying Hanna and I want to sac Effigy in response to activating it so I can recur and reuse it.
>>47174263
It's now a pretty key part of a good standard deck
>>47174293
Auratog.
>>47174293
I always like Claws of Gix. All-purpose sac outlet.
>>47174304
Shit
Guess I'll wait on it to go back down
What relatively inexpensive cards should be in a Riku deck that wants to spam copies of everything? Stuff like Progenitor Mimic or Rite of Replication?
>>47172495
Sakashima is the final answer.
>>47174293
Arenson's Aura
Faith Healer
Teferi's Care
>>47174382
Sakashima and Mirror Gallery.
>>47174367
>>47174369
>>47174455
Thanks, I'll probably include Teferi's Care and Claws of Gix. Theres a lot of exiling in my meta so I want to have sac outlets to protect my stuff.
>>47174382
Besides all the normal clones like phantasmal image and Phyrexian metamorph, there's cards that put creature tokens into play as copies of creatures, like cackling counterpart, progenitor mimic, heat shimmer, and riku's ability
If you have enough of those you can make cards like parralel evolution (or the new version second harvest) a crazy wincon
Helps that token making creatures like avenger of zendikar are excellent clone targets
>>47174293
>no one pointing out the problem with this plan
Exiling Effigy is part of the cost, which means you can't sacrifice it and still exile a creature.
>>47169712
Fetch is a fetch. I dislike the new border, but why pay like twice the money just for that?
>>47171507
Not simultaneously without some really fucking janky interaction. Blind Seer and 8½ tails work tho.
>>47174823
wow, I've looked at this card so many times and I missed this. for some reason I thought the colon was before that line and it was 4, T:Exile Effigy and target creature. Thanks for pointing that out before I try it in a game.
>>47172495
>Myojin of Seeing Winds
Fucking why?
Who plays Myojin (what's the plural for it?) as commander?
>>47172898
Mayael is super boring and too much of a gamble to be useful. She's like Kaalia, but in different colours and worse.
>>47174979
Dream halls and clones make him playable. The rest I probably wouldn't bother
>tfw you think you have a good to awesome card that you'll use in a deck
>You traded it away
Damn Whip of Erebos
Myself:
>Sliver Overlord - Sliver combo / beat down (swinging in with Mutavault T2)
>Mimeoplasm - Reanimation, nothing infinite
>Nekusar - Draw x becomes fireball
>Zedruu - Summoner's Egg trololol there's a Simic Sky Swallower under there
>Friend 1
>Rosheen - Hydras and Pandemonium and Fireballs
>Grimgrin - U/B Zombie tribal
>Teysa - Token shenanigans
Friend 2
>Oloro / Sharuum - Time Machine. / inf combo.dec
>Marchesa - Grixis Control
Friend 3
>Kaalia of the Vast - explains itself
>Shattergang Brothers - Jund Token Control
Decent Meta. Usually I don't optimize, but leave in enough combo to flip the emergency switch and win out of nowhere.
>>47175201
*edit*
Not the Simic Sky Swallower. Just the normal Sky Swallower.
>>47175201
Rosheen Meanderer with Hydras and Fireballs
Fuck that's a great idea. Silly but great. I'm going to build that next
Looking for commander suggestions, /tg/. The groups I play with are kitchen sink/fairly casual, but there really isn't an established meta.
I mostly want to focus onfun
Current commanders:
>Prossh goes infinite and explodes (Semi-Retired)
>How many times can I activate Mayael in a single turn
>Uncle Karlov lifegain (equipment heavy, surprising amount of wins with Felidar Sovereign)
>Daretti's Scrapyard (Myr tribal, currently converting to Sydri)
>>47175306
Doubling Cube, elf ramp, and domeing people for 30. It's fun to watch.
>>47175307
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/clusterfuck-2/
just build this
>>47175395
Looks like it would be just awful to play against. I've played against the lolchaos decks with Progenitus. It's not fun.
>>47175424
It's actually a blast. When you are playing one spell a turn from an opponent's deck the game gets really interesting
>>47175050
have you read the card?
do you run some sort of houserule where your commander counts as "cast from your hand" ??
I fucking wish I had a playgroup. I feel bad seemingly forcing my college friends to play commander with me when their hearts obviously aren't in it.
Maybe I should just bite the bullet and make a modern deck.
>>47175566
modern is expensive though
eventually your friends will catch on
>>47175510
Clones copying him will get the counter. You can unsummon him with Erratic Portal and Crystal Shard too and recast him with the counter
If I animate a nontoken artifact using Karn, Silver Golem's ability and that (now) artifact creature dies, would I be able to imprint it on Mimic Vat?
>>47175655
I just realized that you can also use That Which Was Taken for it to work. Ain't that something.
>>47175566
some of the teir 3 modern decks aren't too terribly expensive. Sometimes you can alter former standard decks into something playable in modern. There are a few altered builds off of the old U/W heroic standard builds that do decentish in modern. You might be able to put something together for less than 100...but you know there is always burn.
>>47175659
Sure
>>47174163
I rate this post cringe/10.
Who's the best commander for Dragon tribal? I want to build a big stompy Timmy deck
>>47175740
I've had a lot of fun with Intet
>>47175754
Atarka World Render for maximum smash or Zirilan of the Claw for speed
>>47175740
Scion.
Because Scion.
>>47175510
command beacon
What happens if I conspire second harvest? Do I double, and then double again? Or do I double the original number twice?
>>47176173
You double the tokens you have out, then double again.
Example:
1 double=2
Doubled again=4
Oh would you look at that.
>>47174163
>>47173954
I'm the Dralnu player! He's pretty fuckin dank when nobody is playing Red desu. Hardcore control all day.
Red's a whiny babby that can't handle playing a nonblue deck and Pink is his brother that only runs tuned 'no fun allowed' decks. Good shit. Green is a bro but his decks are almost 100% netdecked and it's kind of annoying sometimes.
Phenax is OP, most fun I've had since I started playing edh.
>>47176369
>mill
>OP
Deck list?
>>47176378
the upgraded one on mtg goldfish
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-commander-phenax-god-of-deception-50-or-7-tix
Someone posted this last thread, and I don't know how I wasn't aware of it. What do you guys think of this? I was thinking of replacing Increasing Vengeance with this in my spellslinger deck. i run a few other copy effects like Reiterate and Twincast but Vengeance jumped out to me as the one to cu since they both have to target spells you control and I've had quite a lot of success copying other peoples tutors to win games. On that topic, what do you think is the best way to make a spellslinger deck fun to play but not oppressive to play against? I want to have storm be an optional wincon but I don't want every game to end with myself masturbating over the board with Turnabout and High Tide. I feel like I've hit a good compromise by taking out some of the rituals and cutting all the storm cards except Mind's Desire. Right now the only ritual I have in the deck is Seething Song, cut down from Seething Song, Pyretic/Desperate, and Mana Geyser. I've tried to convince myself to cut Capsize but I have such a nice foil it's rather hard to throw it away into a binder. On that topic though I've cut some other buyback spells like Shattering Pulse for 1 shot removal, hoping to make the deck still have lots of interaction without removing everything as soon as it hits. I also decided not to use any extra turn spells other than Stitch in Time.
TL:DR I'm having a hard time making a deck that's fun to play and fun to play against.
>>47176887
Wrote such an essay I forgot my pic.
>>47176887
Just TL;DR'ed it.
Make a deck that can win easily but has easy answers to it. My Mimeoplasm deck has a Vulturous Zombie and Traumatize. It's a turn 5 kill if I get both (and I have a few times). But it's super open to spot / mass removal. Make a deck that tosses soft balls that can win. Turns them all into "Oh shit I was 1 card away!"
>>47175655
>>47175682
>Paying 10-15 mana for nothing, THEN you begin valuing
Serious masochism going on here
>>47176173
Conspire is so funny with second harvest and saproling symbiosis
Or conspire parallel evolution, then conspire the flashback
>>47177028
>1card away
Good games always feel like this for me, and we don't go easy on each other
This card is crazy
>playing Krenko, swing with an assload of 1/1s for like 40 damage
>opponent playing the Selesnya Dragonlord lifegain drops Fog
>drop pic related in response
>then drop Reiterate, Buyback, Reiterate again
>flash in Dictate of the Twin Gods
>dump all remaining mana into Volcanic Geyser for his entire life total and right through his Phyrexian Unlife
He was so upset
>>47175702
Shut up, you're just a shark. You don't even wear shoes.
I just found out that Tezzeret vs. Elspeth was a duel deck that happened when I was away from the game.
Those are my two favourite walkers bar none.
Is there any reason for me to get it whatsoever if I play EDH or Casual 60-card at all?
>>47177752
That's a pretty awesome card, I prefer that other one that is two mana and you don't have to attack, victory chant? Victory march? Don't remember
>>47177752
anon you goddamn monkey that's infinite mana
>>47178371
Battle hymn there we go lol
>>47177752
>not realizing Phyrexian Unlife doesn't put poison counters on unless they're already at 0 or less life
>single giant geyser puts him into negatives
>rtfc
You Dun goofed son
>>47178310
It would probably be cheaper to just buy teh planeswalkers themselves.
Any suggestions for pillowfort effects such as Glacial Chasm, Solitary Confinement and Energy Field? I want to build Ghandi.dec that wins by not fighting.
