>MTGO Pauper Guide
https://www.cardhoarder.com/mtgo-beginner-guide
>What are some top tier decks I can get on MTGO/Paper?
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/pauper
>BUT I WANT TO SEE ALL VIABLE DECKS!
http://tappedout.net/users/fruuty/deck-folders/
>Which rules should I follow?
If you don't already have some homebrew version with friends, follow the MTGO card pool and banlist (and please spread this to your friends that start playing with you). Currently the only place Pauper is officially supported by Wizards is online, and they have a card pool and banlist, therefore that is the format we should be using offline on paper as well, since decks and cards can transfer to games between each other with no confusion.
>WAHHH THATS TOO HARD WHERE...
http://www.mtg-hunter.com
The bottom left has a box, select MTGO Pauper, all cards in the card pool and banlist are taken into account.
>What deck should I use?
Ask in the thread!
>Is MTGO worth it?
If you have no local paper competition, but want to play a vast amount of Pauper, it can't be beat, even if it is a clunky GUI, you learn quickly.
Some good decks for newbies include but are not limited to:
>Burn
>Elves
>Goblins
>Stompy
>Slivers
>Affinity
>Mono U control
>UB Teachings
i do care to be h
>>47075166
No, no one cares.
>>47075230
But I do care to but just don't have any idea for discussion. I don't playing MTGO, just sometimes paper pauper with friends, mainly spending pauper-time on drafts and trying to make this damn pauper EDH deck for weeks. It's sad that pauper is dead on /tg/
Also posting uncommon tits
>>47076395
>It's sad that pauper is dead on /tg/
Not only on /tg/.
Just use fucking goblins and if the losers at your shop play "paper" pauper load up on goblin grenades
any izzet blitz player here?
post/link your lists i want to do some comparison
mine is
4x kiln
4x delver
4x nivix
4x ponder
4x preordain
3x gitaxian probe
1x gush
4x lightinig bolt
1x gut shot
4x apostle's blessing
4x mutagenic grow
4x temur battlerage
1x slip trough space
2x Izzet cancel (gainlands are for pussies)
1x lonely sandbar
8x island
7x mountain
side
2x shattering spree
2x gut shot
3x dispell
2x echoing trouth
2x deep analysis
2x flame slash
2x electrickery
goin to remove something to make space for 3x flearing pain tho
>>47076769
I already invested in Burn. I hate local players. Weirdos. Trying to stay MTU own Pauper league at a local nerd bar that keeps social retards at bay.
>>47077922
My own*
what do you think about Dauntless Cathar? Would it have a place in a token deck?
>>47079969
>Dauntless Cathar
Having 1W 1/1 flying blocker is better than having no blocker IMO
My LGS plays paper pauper and allow Goblin Grenade. I've been testing this Red Metal list based on my old standard Zendikar/Mirrodin list and it honestly seems disgusting.
4x Ornithopter
4x Foundry Street Denizen
4x Goblin Bushwhacker
4x Mogg War Marshal
1x Skirk Prospector
4x Kuldotha Rebirth
3x Panic Spellbomb
4x Gitaxian Probe
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Goblin Grenade
3x Reckless Abandon
4x Great Furnace
3x Teetering Peaks (may change to Smoldering Spires)
10x Mountain
Thoughts? I wonder how prevalent t1/t2 wipes are in my meta, which seem to be the only real thing that can disrupt it. Am I crazy?
RIP thread
trying my best to animate those threads but seems no one gives a fuck nor even opens them
>>47081683
gotta fear those electrickeries
Whenever I cast Thought Scour, this really obnoxious meatball at my LGS starts screaming and going apeshit about it.
What should I do to make him rage even harder? Any more cards with similar effects I can play in Pauper?
>>47084134
>>47084183
Oh boy, didn't know that one
I'm not a big fan of mill, but I will make a little nasty deck just to annoy that guy
>>47084128
>Electrickery
That shit is dope.
>>47084134
What's the context? Why would someone get mad about getting milled for fucking two? Wait until he gets hit with a Conspired Memory Sluice.
>>47084271
Doing it at instant speed after he scries, drawing a card at the end of his turn...that kinda stuff
Can my Zuberas play too?
>>47084388
though he was just mad at seeing mill stuff, thats why i suggested >>47084183
>>47084401
would grixis zuberas work?
should be 4-5 colors to get full potential from those guys but having such a messed up manabase is kinda impossible in pauper
>>47084438
5 color would work fine, evolving wilds solves problems. Just need some counterspells and a sac outlet like Ashnod's Altar or Viscera Seer.
>>47084388
>88
>after he scries
Heil fucking Hitler
>>47084134
>>47084929
we are looking for istant-ish mill effects
the point in tough scour is that it can fuck up a preordain scry
>>47084134
Find out Dream Twist from old inninstrad
U istant mills 3
has flashback 1U to fuck shit up even more
still dont think erasure/mills will ever be decent archetypes
a machine for PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGS
>>47084134
>>47085119
What did he mean by this?
>>47084134
>>47085119
to be honest i cant see what would be the point of this deck
>i have a gimnick that allows me to gain 4 life every 2 turns!
>look some removals!
>check it out! mulldrifters!!
seriously how is this supposed to work?
>>47085134
>"similar effects I can play in Pauper"
>Posting rare
Anon, why
>>47085314
It's just hardcore value, which is pretty much every BUG archetype deck. Typically it goes reen for fatties and mana, blue for draw and counters, black for hand disruption and removal. BUG wins by grinding your opponent down with resources.
>>47085314
you should probably watch the pauper gauntlet.
>>47084072
I tried last time but it's REALLY quiet here. Here's a BG Aristocrats deck I've been thinking about for some time, just wanna pen it down somewhere.
4x Young Wolf
4x Blisterpod
4x Nest Invader
4x Carrion Feeder
2x Nantuko Husk
4x Driver of the Dead
2x Ornithopter
4x Springleaf Drum
4x Rancor
3x Swarm Surge
3x Grisly Salvage
2x Fling
4x Jungle Hollow
2x Holdout Settlement
7x Swamp
7x Forest
With some Gurmag Anglers and Vault Skirges in the sideboard for mode shifting. Not sure if Unearth would be better than Driver, and whether Chainer's Edict sits better in the Grisly Salvage slot.
>>47086040
Driver is really synergistic, I'm just wondering if it's not cost prohibitive over something like Unearth. Swarm Surge seems sick if you can stack up enough bodies. I would think you might want to run a couple Altar's Reap, just for a bit of gas.
>>47086152
In a deck like this I like to think of Driver as a Sorcery-Speed Collected Company. If I was asked to run Altar's Reap, I'd go for Sign in Blood or Read the Bones, I had them as a two of in a earlier draft.
If the Fling plan turns out too janky for this deck, which I hope not, I've got 6 Red sources, I might replace those with a gas spell.
>>47086152
I guess cost prohibitive is something I'll have to test online for. I do have Scions and Springleaf Drum though. One more thing, do you think Hunger of the Howlpack is potentially better than Rancor?
>>47085119
BUGS
AND
PIGS
>>47085314
It durdles a lot but I got hit pretty hard by it before.
>>47084401
Ooh, here's a brave man. I think you want a lot of graveyard recursion and a good win con. So what >>47084438 said, Grixis and have some death triggers and Gurmag Angler as insurance.
>>47085119
I played against this online yesterday and it was really good. That version had Sylvok Lifestaff as well.
The deck is really good at grinding out value. Its fairly impervious to most removal and pretty well immune to bounce.
Pauper Gauntlet progress report: most of Delver has arrived safe for a Bonesplitter and two Deprives. Goblins, Stompy and Tokens are on the way. Getting missing pieces for Affinity and Bogles.
>>47086350
Not at all. The trample alone is super valuable, as is the recursion, especially in a sac deck. Maybe the toughness bonus is worth something on Howl, but overall I wouldn't think they're close. Rancor is an absurd card.
>>47086040
Well fuck me sideways, a card called Rite of Consumption exists. Screw Fling.
>>47091299
I mean, you can't respond to removal with it or use it after lethal blocks are declared. It's a lot worse.
I'm one Chain Lightening away from completing my Burn deck.
Problem is, I'm a fairly normal guy, and all the MTG players around here are fat smelly weirdos or skinny hyper nerds.
How do I get along with these people? Everything I say is either an attack or an insult to them. Is it because I'm normal they hate everything I say?
>>47090766
I want your money pls.
>>47092577
It's science money bitch. Do science, make money, accumulate deck over time.
>>47092561
are you from US?
moslty here on 4c would call me a fuckin normie but at my LGSs (im italian) we are all a bunch of normal people
think the weirdos and hypernerds are more of a US magic scene thing
>>47093715
Well there are normal people, but the majority here are weirdos with terrible social problems. I ask them if they would like to play at the geek bar and they shit themselves. They don't know basic social graces. It's terrible.
For some reason I'm looked down on for being normal and having a career and wife and kid and home.
would trying to brew a land destruction centered list worthless?
i cant remind this strayegy being even slightly competitive even, but most destroy-land cards are common
also
is sinkhole playable in pauper?
>>47094053
If you're playing actual pauper, then no, sinkhole is not.
If you're playing kitchen table casual Commons then go ahead.
Playing this bad boy here
http://deckstats.net/deck-9666685-9a0c9afaf20bf0938e38479e38e40ad3.html
I'll probs swap the Scavengers for a 4th Rootwalla, 3rd Deep Anal and 2 Mandrills though.
>>47095498
cool
Goblin Fireslinger Vs Spark Elemental as a 3 of in Burn? Is main boarding anti Delver really better with fireslinger?
>>47096053
You shouldn't care about Delver or even about interactions at all, you should just spam your 1 CMC 3 damage spells as fast as humanly possible. Their counterspells cost 2 mana only, so you'll have the tempo and mana advantage anyways.
That said, Spark is pretty bad, so go with Fireslinger unless you're not running:
4 Lava Spike
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
4 Rift Bolt
4 Shard Volley
4 Flame Rift
3 Fireblast
If you're missing something from there, then use those 3 slots on it.
>>47093953
>muh netdecking
>muh tryhards
>muh counters
>lolrandom xD
Then they rage about losing and being scrubs. I hate LGS autists so fucking much. It's so easy not to be a fucking tool.
>>47095498
I really like this list. Are the artifact lands just to bolster delirium?
>>47086040
Aristocrats is such a cool archetype, And there are so many different versions of the deck.
Have you considered playing a humans themed deck with Falkenrath Torturer, Servant of the Scale, and other bg humans?
>>47098152
I like this Servant of the Scale! He's essentially two sacrifices worth of cards. I can see why people like the Humans theme too. I'm gonna try Eldrazi so I can have the option of going wide- Swarm Surge is a great spell in Limited and I wanna make it work in Pauper.
>>47074750
blue counterspelling decks are evil.
>>47100833
You only need to generate a good amount of tokens to make that card work. Why would you care about trading favorably when your objective is to deal a bunch of damage?
>>47101262
Well, if I can activate the First Strike, that puts me up cards, right?
>>47100843
What are you going on about, Counterspell is like the single reason I'm playing this format.
who brun here
>>47102225
moi!
>>47102225
Sweet deck m8, I'm missing Chain Lightning and Flame Rift, otherwise I'd just piece mine together from my Modern Burn Zoo.
Any reason you're not running Searing Blaze? Or do I just have the ocular senses of a lobotomised cockroach.
>>47102225
I own it, but I find it horribly boring.
I'm this faggot btw
>>47081683
>>47103019
I honestly don't really like it. I find that with only 19 lands you're more likely to hit a non-land, which kinda ruins Blaze.
>>47098152
got any other ideas for the falkenrath aristocrats
any cards you suggest besides the two that make it synergize well like it would with nantuko husk
>>47103814
A popular idea is a monoblack zombies build, their graveyard recursion is strong enough at Common level.
>>47103814
Im not sure rightnow, butill check. This thread in a few hours. I know that there are some mercenaries that were errataed to be humans, though...
>>47086040
wow that brings back memories of a really old (pre-mirrodin) deck I used to play,but with carrion,nantuku,symbiotic elves,penumbra cat ,shades form ,sadistic glee ,crypt rats & other removal.
shades form on symbiotic and sac it and tokens to nantuku was the main win after putting rat activation on the stack .
fun times ,really should throw an updated version back together :)
p.s. needs more 'Unearth' and maybe 'vampiric link'
Can someone explain to me why chainer's edict is nearly 3 euros each and other cards like diabolic edict or geth's verdict that do the same are 1 euro the playset?
>>47107564
It has flashback and speculators love old uncommons.
>people running 4 Shard Volley in Burn main deck
>Not running a bare minimum of 3 Searing Blaze main board
>No Incinerate being an auto 4 be of in any pauper burn deck
You guys are shit burn players.
It's like you guys have never played burn.
What are the best one-drops in white weenie or soul sisters?
Doomed Traveler
Thraben Inspector
Icatian Javelineers
Soul Warden
Soul's Attendant
Court Homunculus and Ardent Recruit when artifacts
Anything missing?
WON PAUPER NIGHT
WHY IS THIS DWEEB FORMAT SO EASY HAHA THANKS FOR THE $20 LOSERS
>>47111457
>WHY IS THIS DWEEB FORMAT SO EASY
Because no one plays it seriously? Pauper is for cheap fun and that's pretty much it.
>>47111618
sorry anon but you seem to be in the wrong thread
the casual mtg thread is that way --->>>>>
>>47111626
Butthurt because you only beat some casuals who wanted fun?
>>47111659
what? no, i played super tryhards because that's all anyone is at my store
i'm just making fun of you for playing games for fun instead of to win
did you know that there is a 90% correlation between people who unironically enjoy any kind of competitive games and having low testosterone levels?
>you confirmed for low test dweeb
do you even lift?
>>47111674
>>you confirmed for low test dweeb
>do you even lift?
Fuck, ya got me!
Please share your secrets with me, I want to be a lifting high test magic player like you ;_;
>>47111712
hey say that to my face and not online you little faggot and see what happens
fucking 1v1 me on modo add me ign is steel101
you won't
>>47084978
What about something that causes them to shuffle their deck after they scry but before they draw? Different way to do it, but it still makes their scry pointless.
>>47096732
Yeah, but I'll probably swap them back for basics since I'm cutting Scavengers
are land destruction or stompy/all-in red viable in pauper? Coming from modern it seems like there's a lot of good mana acceleration and land destruction but not a lot of good finishers.
>>47112448
Doubtful. Most common land destruction in red is 4 cost. Black has several 3 cost spells plus sinkhole, but even so I think you'd be likely to get run over by a burn deck or a t1 delver with daze backup.
Black also has Dark Ritual, which I would recommend. Your best curve would end up being
>t1 land, dark rit, 3cmc
>t2 land, sinkhole
>t3 land, 3cmc
It definitely has potential, but there are a lot of fast decks in pauper that will just lay you out if your draw is slow.
>>47112794
i was thinking more along the lines of 1 and 2-mana spells. I'm working on a modern deck that does pretty well with smallpox and a low curve so i tried to make this like that.
also i have no idea what creatures are good in pauper
>>47112448
stompy without land destruction is better in this format. land destruction doesnt feel viable enough in too many matchups
>>47092561
Maybe MTG isn't for you. I'm being genuine, I don't get why you would enter a crowd you can't relate to.
>>47116268
actually stompy doesn't really make sense as it looks like pretty much every deck is fair and i can't even find lock pieces anyways
>>47117366
stompy doesn't run lock pieces.
>>47117374
i was referring to the ancient tomb/chalice/blood moon style of deck.
Browsing cards, it seems like common has plenty of fast mana but nothing worth spending it on...
>>47117456
stompy is for beating delver and other similar blue decks, as well as control decks
>>47113044
That's a pretty cute list. I hate borderposts but I see what you're doing. I don't think Ickspitter is very good. I love Raiders, I want to run a list with Madness and Raiders.
>>47092561
Maybe you're just a cunt.
>>47117988
i added ickspitter because there is a lot of card disadvantage built into the spells and no ways to gain card advantage other than combat. Although i guess going card to card with the opponent shouldn't matter if they can't play spells so maybe more Raiders would be better
i like borderposts because i get to keep mana sources while spamming akki dudes and tremble
what's a good t1 play other than borderposts? in modern i would lead with inquisition or thoughtseize but idk if that's worthwhile in pauper.
>>47092561
Just keep triggering them.
If there's any Japanime/manga you like there's a chance some there does too. If you can make it with one of them then the rest will warm up to you.
thoughts about pic related in izzet blitz?
might it help?
>>47117715
ccol
>>47118324
Duress is a great t1 play, especially against daze, which saves their lands.
>>47119128
Shroud seems good for the deck.
>>47126013
oh cool. are there many decks where duress will just plain miss?
Also, what are some good sideboard cards in these colors? i really want to play snuff out and gorilla shaman
What do you guys think of this super cheap 2 Tix Pauper Zombie deck?
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/playing-pauper-zombies
>>47128854
Looks like a fun cheap tribal deck. At the price just go for it.
Is Burn considered tier 1 in Pauper? It's so much cheaper compared to the other top tier Pauper Decks.
>>47128990
Are you out of your fucking mind.
Burn is one of the most expensive decks to make in paper pauper. You must mean online. Burn is a Tier 1 deck but the meta changes all the time. Slivers was kicking ass for a while. People dislike burn because they think it's boring while they take 50 hours to play thier fucking mill deck which must be as exciting a fuck.
>>47128638
Goblins is probably a miss unless they're running token generating sorceries or Bolts, but Goblins is probably just a bad matchup, it's the nature of the deck. Still, you could beat them with land destruction on a 2-land Cohort/Flunkies draw or something. Duress is honestly a great card against so many decks though, from blue control to stompy to Reanimator builds, it's definitely worth running.
>>47128638
Also, Gorilla Shaman seems straight up busted against Affinity. 1 mana to blow up their lands? Yes please.
>>47119128
I think the dual color enchantments are seriously underplayed. That one seems sick with Prowess creatures if you're running a burn/draw build (remember that shroud turns off any pump spells). Clout seems like a great way to make your Wee Dragonauts basically unkillable, which is its biggest downside aside from costing 3 mana. Flying is so good in pauper it's nuts.
>>47128990
Burn is great, but you'll be sick of it after a single daily. It's ridiculously boring.
>>47081683
This guy, here.
Just found out my local pauper league has its own banlist, and the autist that started it thinks Goblin Grenade is too powerful for the format, along with Forked Bolt and Sinkhole. Delver is conspicuously absent.
I'm pretty triggered.
>>47131442
just play monoblack or turbo angler.
Goblin Grenade is kinda bad anyway.
>>47131602
I just always wanted to play Red Metal again, man. You have no idea how good it felt to dreamcrush those Cawblade tryhards.I just want to relive the past.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=omK5H4_giSo
>>47132049
wtf man
>>47131442
Yeah, same problem here. I'd start up my own deal with other players. It was easy to steal the pauper players from the group once i told them we could play MTGO rules at my place.
Really pissed off the other organizer though lol.
>>47084134
You mill your opponent when you Thought Scour?
>>47133622
Why can't we just play paper pauper with the MTGO banlist?
>>47077542
4x Delver / Kiln Fiend / Nivix Cyclops
4x Ponder
4x Preordain
4x Gitaxian Probe
2x Expedite
2x Slip Through Space
1x Mutagenic Growth
1x Dispel
4x Lightning Bolt
3x Apostle's Blessing
3x Temur Battle Rage
3x Gush
4x Evolving Wilds
5x Mountain
9x Island
Sideboard:
3x Hydroblast
3x Pyroblast
2x Dispel
2x Gorilla Shaman
2x Flame Slash
2x Echoing Truth
1x Flaring Pain
>>47131318
huh, i was thinking goblins or any deck that runs less lands than me (around 20) would be a decent matchup, especially ones without draw/dig. i have access to good removal and big creatures that are hard for them to kill. idk though since i haven't had time to get my feet wet.
>>47131338
yeah, makes perfect sense for a land destruction strategy.
Also, why am i seeing relic of progenitus being run instead of nihil spellbomb in black decks with flashback cards?
>>47133856
> why am i seeing relic of progenitus
It doesn't have a tick ability I guess? Honestly I have no idea, it seems awful.
>>47074750
Is mono-u still tier 1 without CoF? I managed to scrounge up the pieces and then they made the ban announcement soon after and want to come back now. I also have mono-w soul sisters so I had a spare deck.
>>47134054
There's plenty of other powerful cards in it, you just don't get the spellstutter sprite interaction.
>>47133684
Because that's not Pauper you idiot. The ban list would be longer if MTGO had every single common in it.
Your playing kitchen table. Not Pauper, which is a format by WotC.
>>47134381
MaRo pls go
>>47134381
And if you think Goblin Grenade would make the banlist, I'm not the idiot here.
pauper at cardkingdom twitch
My LGS allows paper commons. So far only hymn has gotten banned, but GG Goblins is still crazy and pushes the deck to t1 by itself. But doesnt seem ban worthy.
The other cards in the cardkindom's banlist barely get played. I think tron and teachings play a couple of merchant scrolls and thats it.
High Tide without faeries is just cute; sinkhole without a mana denial strategy to support it is just out of place.
Free bump from a vendor that's trying to add MtG to his wares.
>>47134742
>>47136023
Read the OP. Unless the MTGO rules and card pool are followed pauper is dead in the water due to old Commons not being around as much and no stable meta to analyze like standard and modern.
There shouldn't be "paper pauper". There is only Pauper. Please lay whatever homebrew you want, the newer players and venues and even big tournaments are going with MTGO banlist and card pool.
I refuse to play with idiots that do every paper common. You should too. Read the OP.
>>47085119
Pig Trinket just got taken out by Bogles in the CardKingdom twitch Stream, the player made a misplay though, I think he coulda won
You guys should check it out it's pretty chill
I'm surprised that there's a pauper stream going on. I had never seen RUG Tron in action.
