Hello and welcome everyone, new and old players alike! This is Tundra civ, a civ thread series in a fictional, non-fantasy setting where you play as the rulers of the White Republic, a nation in a world similar to our own.
Check out the pastebin for story, technologies, stats etc.
http://pastebin.com/t7gWa2pa
And an archive of previous threads if you want to skim through some of them.
http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/boards/pol.tg/subject/Civ/username/Civ%20bulgar/page/1/
Previously, on Tundra civ:
Advancing into the Second Industrial Revolution, the White Republic was entering its most prosperous days as Prime Minister Nestian's successful policies and charming personality inspired the nation. This was all cut short by a series of anarchist attacks on our capital and many other cities, which resulted in the deaths of the PM and many in his Cabinet. President Atanius, a retired general, was granted emergency powers and led our armies to crush the Second eastern Uprising, in which pajit and ramki lands banded together in revolt against our republic. After a successful campaign, Atanius and his men were welcomed back in Centerhold as heroes.
President Atanius announced to the Council that he will not relinquish his position. He has assumed the title of Imperator, dictator for life. To prevent a civil war, the Council negotiated with him and agreed to work under him, while our new dictator has agreed that democracy will return after his death.
>Population:92 000 000 (76% white, 13 % chink,1% kafi, 1% hibibi, 1 % pajit, 2% darkskin,4% ramki,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 16 000 000 Eyerdar 7 100 000 Veita 6 800 000 Ocras
>Economy:6/10
>Food stockpiles:6/10
>Food production: 6/10
>Political Stability: 5/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
Aymsland was yet again a battlefield - the four vassal pajit states and the ramki lands rose up and formed the United Front of Resistance. Eventually they were defeated by the forces of our Republic and our more loyal vassals.
Our military losses were estimated to around 100 000, while over half a million pajit and ramki have died and many have fled the continent. The material damages will be repaired eventually, but the Council agreed to support Atanius in his eventual plan to annex the pajit lands and remove all pajit and ramki from the continent - one way or another.
Our allies, the Kaichou Empire and Sunset Alliance, have now marked that a larger part of their population lives in their Eyerdar colonies than the homeland. Delegates from our allies were present in Centerhold and were also victims to anarchist terrorists, but their governments have stated that they continue to consider us part of the Occidental Axis.
The NPU has recieved many immigrants from Aymsland following the rebellions.
Veita has been developing well and has expanded its railroad network as more white colonists have settled the Valley of the Heart
Ocras remains a peaceful and prosperous continent.
The Councilors from the colonies of Southern Eyerdar, Veita and Ocars make up the "Southsea Coalition". They push for less government involvement in the economy and more autonomy for the provinces and colonies. They have consistently been against granting more power to the President, but for now are reluctantly going along with the Council's general direction of obeying the Imperator.
With the rebellions quelled, the nation looks towards repairing the damages in Aymsland for now and recovering from the economic shock it delivered. Atanius has said that recovery should be the first priority, but has already begun making plans for afterwards.
>E.Construction
I propose we build a bridge between Gajti and Bahmu's path. Not merely because it would provide increased transport over the river, but also as a test.
Let's make worth a substantial government grant and hand it out as a reward for a contest as to which company or inventor can design the most modern and efficient bridge using the latest technology.
>President Atanius
>>47061678
This.
>>47061678
I like this idea
By the way, have we circumnavigated the entire world yet?
>>47061880
Yeah we did, also got to the north pole
A beautiful new bridge was built across the Grand River, connecting the two cities of Bahmamu's Path and Gajti. The bridge is a marvel of modern engineering as it is built with enough space for ships to sail underneath it, carts and automobiles to cross the highway section and there's even a section for railtracks.
>>47061880
Aye, we have. We recently put our flag on the North Pole as well, after the Kaichou claimed the South Pole. Sea transport in Aymsland has also been expanded by the charting of the Coldsea passage in the north(though that becomes more or less impossible to cross for five to eight months every year)
The economy is gradually recovering and people are moving on with their lives.
>Population:93 000 000 (76% white, 13 % chink,1% kafi, 1% hibibi, 1 % pajit, 2% darkskin,4% ramki,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 16 100 000 Eyerdar 7 200 000 Veita 7 000 000 Ocras
>Economy:7/10
>Food stockpiles:7/10
>Food production: 7/10
>Political Stability: 6/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47061934
J. Repair all of the provinces damaged by the war. Atanius must have a positive impact and now is the time for healing.
>>47061273
>Our military losses were estimated to around 100 000, while over half a million pajit and ramki have died and many have fled the continent. The material damages will be repaired eventually, but the Council agreed to support Atanius in his eventual plan to annex the pajit lands and remove all pajit and ramki from the continent - one way or another.
Hmm.
Let's see if I remember clearly. Anything with a Black Name is us. Red is Sunset alliance who are our allies?
Is grey the Pajit?
>>47061971
Absolutely this though, if we're to wage war we must first recover from the last one.
Gonna go read up the pastebin, but what approximate tech level are we?
>>47062021
Black is us, Red is SA, pink is KE, grey are all vassals of ours -4 pajit states, sigbru, goran, prizzid, krushid. Aside from the 4 pajit states, the ramki lands(center of which is Hyulyu), which are directly annexed to the republic also rebelled.
>>47062034
We recently invented the automobile. We are approximately at the level of 1880s USA/Europe.
>>47061971
I agree
>>47062034
>>47062062
That's good, I was mostly asking for military. From what I see in the pastebin.
>All adult males are trained to be part of the militia, minorities included. They act as a reserve that is mobilized when needed and mostly fight as highly effecitve(especially in defense)pikemen and musketeers.
>Equipment: swords, armor,helmets, revolvers, flintlock muskets with bayonets, breech and muzzle loaded rifles, field artillery, early machine gun
I presume by early machine gun we're talking an traditional gatling gun.
So from what I gather we're in a somewhat anachronistic state in which our civil tech is a bit ahead of our military tech?
I would almost want to make actions to start standardizing and mass producing our most advanced firearms and redeveloping our military strategy, trying to push out a more modern style of warfare and recognizing the obsolesce of others.
Basically we're going to have to pull off a Russia.
>>47061971
This
The government has invested in repairing damaged infrastructure and settlements. We had some striking railroad workers during the Rebellions and rebel partisans targeted infrastructure and supply lines to great effect.
>>47062115
Hmm, I forgot to reedit that part.
We're allright on the equipment side mostly, we've got a well-developed military-industrial complex and standartised equipment. Breechloading, magazine-fed rifles are standart issue for the standing army, but we still have cavalry in the way we've been using it the last 100 years, since the Pacharnati War.
>Population:94 500 000 (76% white, 13 % chink,1% kafi, 1% hibibi, 1 % pajit, 2% darkskin,4% ramki,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 16 300 000 Eyerdar 7 400 000 Veita 7 200 000 Ocras
>Economy:8/10
>Food stockpiles:7/10
>Food production: 7/10
>Political Stability: 7/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47062062
If it isn't too much of a request for one anon, I'd appreciate marking those names on a map. Especially if we're this close to unifying aymsland under our sphere of influence.
>>47062181
C. Bread and wine for the masses.
>>47062181
G. we need winchester.
I want to focus on removing these damndable rebels, so I'll be pushing for some war actions.
>>47062181
>F.Improve Military
Our soldiers and equipment are the finest in the world, but we need to adapt to changing needs of large scale warfare.
With Atainu as president, and given both military and political power, I propose a reorganization of the our military.
We need a military with a much stronger sense of autonomy and heirachy, with differing ranks being able to assess, evaluate, and implement battle tactics up and down the chain of command.
I propose Atainu spearhead the development of the Republican High Command of the Army as well as a Republican High Command of the Navy, naturally with Atainu himself at its command. His military expertise should do well.
We'll develop a structure and start training and recuitment of additional officers.
>>47062309
Supporting this.
>>47062345
>>47062257
>>47062206
Personally I'm okay with improving the navy too. I would like to know what level of development our ships are at.
If this is the majority vote i'll back it, but I'll press for military reforms next turn.
>>47062309
Also I kept mispelling his name its Atanius, not Atainu . . .
>>47062366
I am in agreement with you
>>47062181
Improve the navy
Our navy has been lagging behind. Despite a technological superiority, our fleet was ineffective during the rebellions. We've moved on from the age of sail, but civil shipbuilding has surpassed our navy's progress.
Changes were made in the upper echelons of the Admiralty. The admirals have had a poor relationship with the Imperator for a long time and some of them were forced to resign and let fresh blood take their place.
A second generation of heavy ironclads is now being employed, while the old steam frigates have been abandoned in favor of a new design - armored cruisers. What is changing naval warfare is the great firepower of the latest generation of artillery and the relatively new torpedos.
Our warfleet has been modernised and expanded as technology continues to move forward.
While naval reforms are underway, the Imperator has also made plans for army reforms.
What are two areas we should focus on in particular?
A.Officers, strategy and tactics
B.Modernising the cavalry
C.More powerful artillery
D.Better special forces
E.Improving the militia's role as a reserve
F.Better infantry
G.Other(Form a new military branch or group?)
Currently we have stationed garrisons and a separate standing army, all professionals, volunteers. There's the four elemental orders, ranger corps, military police and regular law enforcement.
All men of age must undergo a period of militia training. Some continue operating as a local militia forces to supplement the police or army in frontier lands.
I welcome any suggestions and ideas such as this post
>>47062309
Be creative!
>>47062656
B and A
>>47062656
A.
C.
>>47062656
>B
>A
>>47062656
A.Officers, strategy and tactics
C.More powerful artillery
Guys we wow't have cav for much longer at this rate, lets not waste precious improvements
>>47062791
yes also cannons>horses
>>47062685
changed to A and C
>>47062791
Although I voted for better artillery, I could see "modernizing cavalry" as putting machine guns on automobiles as a type of primitive armour unit.
>>47062656
A and D
>>47062656
Definitely A and I would say C.
>>47062656
But as a potential G action.
The strength of our military and the strength of our nation are one and the same. If our soldiers believe in their nation, our nation believes in their soldiers.
In addition to pressing for military reorganization, Atanius presses for a mass campaign to promote nationalistic ideals upon our denizens and those of our vassals, as a measure to prevent the issues we had in this existing rebelion. Our citizens need to have a sense of "being a Republican", instead of "being part of the republic" or a vassal.
Using our advanced printing press make posters detailing our various ethnic groups standing together under the flag of the Republic.
Open up additional republic funded schools and military academies throughout our state and vassals, with the agenda of instilling patriotism in the youth and conscripting locals to become patriotic officers who will return home with their ideals.
Hiring poets and song writers to come up with new songs and slogans about what it means to be a White Republican.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iaEUWHVI2Y
>>47062656
>A.Officers, strategy and tactics
>B.Modernising the cavalry
>>47062966
Also this guys G. We have to bring our people together.
>>47063058
Sorry, I picked the wrong one, I wanted to put C instand of B. That my bad.
>>47062966
If this counts as an action, then definitely A and G. But we should also modernize our cavalry.
>>47062966
This is good
>>47062656
>A and c
We've further improved and modernised our artillery, with larger-caliber steel breech-loading guns becoming the standart. Military engineers are also experimenting with improving the very basis on which our artillery works with a different kind of recoil system, though that will perhaps lie in the future.
The commanding structure of our armed forces has been reformed. New military academies have been opened on all continents, specialising in particular fields - infantry, special forces, cavalry, artillery.
The military's structure has been revised with new ranks for commisioned, non-commisioned and warrant officers.
With the completion of this series of military reforms, the Imperator has now presented the first stage of his Aymsland Reshapement Program to the Council.
The four pajit vassal states are to be annexed(small portions of land will be granted to the sigbru, krushid and prizzid for their loyalty) into the republic.
This will bring our pajit population to 10 million and our ramki population to 5 million. Over the next years, all of these must leave the nation or will face death or sterilisation. Our people will have gained a large swathe of livable territory in the home continent and be rid of the thorn in our side. The pajit and ramki will emigrate to the NPU for the most part, some might try the Barniju isles.
This was a condition in the Council's agreement with Atanius.
A.Go through with it
B.Attempt to eliminate Atanius
C.Other option
>>47062656
>A.Officers, strategy and tactics
>E.Improving the militia's role as a reserve
>>47063268
>A.Go through with it
No point in backing out now. This Atanius just want what best for us.
Also the pajit and ramki shouldn't have revolted.
>>47063268
A
Time to remove kebab
>>47063268
>small portions of land will be granted to the sigbru, krushid and prizzid for their loyalty
what about the goran
>>47063268
>A.Go through with it
Go hard or go home
>>47063319
Also yeah lets make it that there an exception to this. Needless to say the ever loyal chinks will also be left alone.
>>47063268
The Imperator's a man with a plan. A.
>>47063319
>>47063339
I agree with this too, we should hand out concessions for loyalty.
>>47063319
The goran are being provided enough land to settle their growing population on both sides of the Grand river.
>>47063339
The chinks have been given equal citizenship, Waru Poto and Bei Poto were annexed into the republic some decades ago.
I'm doing the map now. We should probably put some new names on all those pajit and ramki cities - give me suggestions, as many as you can!
Judging from our tech level, equipment, and being described as late 1800's, we're going to be fighting akin to the warfare of the Boer War, Mahdist War, and Anglo-Zulu war.
Which means cavalry is definitely still very much relevant in this day and age and we'll still need to drill our troops to form up rifle squares. I do think we should modernize our cavalry corps soon or down the line, maybe more revolvers or mounted riflemen in addition to our melee cavalry.
The only deviant to that is the automobile, but I don't know what stage of development those are at. If we're talking stuff like early Model T's those aren't exactly well suited for warfare and rough terrain, let alone strapping armor onto them, but the moment we make armored cars with appropriate sized machine guns things are going to change.
>>47063412
Name a city Inky.
But really, some names
White Basket, White Haven, White Mallows, White Harvest, Some names without white
Clear Mallow, Canyon City, Steele, Fork Road.
Also how about name a city after our great leader Atanius
>>47063412
Names for after we conquer them? I'd say model them off the names of our own homeland, things like Mountainhold for Goran, or Hillburg or Riverside.
>>47063496
I like that, but we should rename an existing loyal city after him upon his victory. Maybe one of our greatest fortress towns like River Hold or Center Hold.
>>47063496
Name the former Pajit capital Vajni after Atanius. Something like Atania.
>>47063546
Yeah, naming a city he wins in a victory is better. But for now I was throwing out the idea to see how people think. If it's a good plan or not.
>>47063579
I like that
>>47063594
I was mostly just thinking of how cities like Stalingrad or Leningrad were named after the great figures because they were specifically meant to honor them greatly and in addition denote the importance of not letting this city fall because it's got their name on it. And it might be a shame of Atania turns out to be a somewhat lackluster capital of a disfavorable people.
But who knows, look at the success the Turks had turning Constantinople into Istanbul. I think naming the captured city after him is good too.
I would like to voice an opinion, we must regain control of our colonial subjects.
What i mean by this is the fact that we have little direct control over our colonies, to the point that we receive no taxes and really only get their armed forces.
There is no reason why it should be this way; our colonies are fully colonised meaning there is no need for incentives like lower/no taxes, we have the technology to communicate with them in a matter of seconds since we have the radio and the telegraph meaning therefore that their self-governance in this way is a historical relic from the time when sailing to our colonies would take weeks! How can we allow our modern republic to be burdened by such a system!
If we had a democracy we would struggle to rally support to take them over but seeing as we are currently under a dictator. I see no reason to not attempt this.
>>47063657
That's where I was going with the nationalism campaign. Maybe we should set up stronger federal organization in our colonies in place.
We need our "states" to start acting less like independant states, and more like the United States or the various German States, until they feel sufficiently integrated into the Republic.
>>47063676
Objection!
I am afraid good sir that you are wrong;
We are not a quest, we are a civ-game and even if we were there is no rule on this board that says "no quests" or "no quests outside of /qst/".
Thus i must kindly ask that you leave this thread, that is if you will continue being non-productive and generally a nuisance. Have a nice day!
Still doing the map atm, putting in names, but turn progress in the meanwhile
The Program is perhaps one of the most ambitious and grand governmental undertakings in history - probably number one, in fact. It takes place gradually, all territories have been warned that the ramki and pajit populations must leave. Whites are settled in every location, those who refuse to leave after a set period of time are either killed or sterilised.
It is a process that takes years.
What else shall we do during this time?
>Economy:7/10
>Food stockpiles:5/10
>Food production: 7/10
>Political Stability: 5/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47063745
>I.Improve economy
These places are probably underdeveloped / damaged by the war. Lets get them up to speed!
>>47063745
J. Begin developing and preparing the areas where whites will move into, improving sanitstion, public works etc.
>>47063740
Erm, actually historically these have been known as civ quests, and have been that way since as far back as I can remeber in 2008.
But yes a trial board and posting in it isn't mandatory. Especially since there are still significant differences between it and /tg/.
>>47063745
>C.Improve religion/culture
Nationalism nationalism nationalism!
>>47063745
B. We do have more living space now.
>>47063794
Well that is interesting, I have mostly heard them called "civ-games" but i know them also as "civ-quests" like you mention. Nice to see that civil conversation can occur here on this topic!
>>47063745
>L.Government and laws
We need to reverse the course of all this salutary neglect and impose a stronger hold of the Republic on our vassals.
Redeveloping a stronger Federal Republic style government system will do that well.
>>47063745
>L.Government and laws
We need to keep the colonies together.
We should be special attention to Eyerder. There are along the border with the NPU who have a strong anarchist and socialist leanings.
>>47063939
Northern Eyerder is loyal to us but almost all of the rest of our colonies will fight against us.
>>47063962
Not been in the quest for very long, have we any givings or previous events that predict the colonies aren't very attached to us?
>>47063745
>>L.Government and laws
>>47063745
>B.Food production & Population growth
we need to modernize agriculture, food shortages will undermine our political stability
>>47064021
>The Councilors from the colonies of Southern Eyerdar, Veita and Ocars make up the "Southsea Coalition". They push for less government involvement in the economy and more autonomy for the provinces and colonies
>>47064021
Basically, the rest of our colonies want to leave the republic, the colonies which feel as such are know as the "south sea coalition". They feel this way for many reasons but for all purposes nothing in any way reasonable.
>>47064059
Yeah, I see.
This is gonna be tough because those are all substantially large colonies each on their own specific continent. The only IRL example we have of successfully holding the allegiance of that size of land for a length of time is British Australia and Canada but even then inevitably they got their independence.
Government reforms are in the need - Atanius is an old man, healthy as he may be for his age, he likely has no more than another decade in him. One of the reasons he became dictator was to reform the way our government works - it was made in its current form at a time when we had but a portion of the lands we rule today, and with the ongoing expansion it will get even tougher to administrate in the future.
Currently we have two chambers of parliament, which are determined by the electoral distribution.
Congress, the lower chamber, is made up of population-proportionate representatives from electoral districts in Aymsland, while the Council is made up of two representatives from each Region, including the colonies.
Every region has local elections, but we are a unitary and centralised republic, all territories obey the same laws. The only difference is that the colonials do not pay a tax directly to the Treasury, but only to their local council-government, which is used for the needs of said colonial province.
New technologies allow easier communication across large distances, but the southern colonies, while feeling a religious and historical link to our nation, feel they deserve more rights to self-governence.
What reforms should we make?
A.Reform into a federal republic, give every Region limited legislative authority, adjust the size of Congress and expand it to include the colonies. Regions will collect some tax for local uses and some for the federal treasury.
B.Keep the current system, make some adjustments to electoral districts and such, tax the colonials
C.Make a single chamber of Parliament, adjust it and include the colonies, tax everyone equally and have the same laws everywhere
D.Other option(SUGGEST)
>>47064141
A.Reform into a federal republic, give every Region limited legislative authority, adjust the size of Congress and expand it to include the colonies. Regions will collect some tax for local uses and some for the federal treasury.
OR
C.Make a single chamber of Parliament, adjust it and include the colonies, tax everyone equally and have the same laws everywhere
I am leaning to the second one but the problem is that centralised government is quite inefficient, at least on our scale.
>>47064141
A.Reform into a federal republic, give every Region limited legislative authority, adjust the size of Congress and expand it to include the colonies. Regions will collect some tax for local uses and some for the federal treasury.
Out of curiosity, should we go full Anshlusszeit and invade our neighbours once we have tanks?
>>47064141
A seems solid. The colonials are restless and doing to much to them will cause revolt.
>>47064210
Invade who? Other than npu,ke, and se, we literally rule the world already.
>>47064141
>D. let's Mix A and C
we'll need to stand united but make sure the system is more complex than a single chamber deciding everything.
If you make it closer to two chambers to elect laws and one chamber to elect local leaders we can do federal administration for our whole country because everyone is under the same laws but not the same administration which apply those rules differently
>>47064141
A mix of A & C would be great.
If not A if fine.
>>47064257
this
>>47064253
I'd suggest the NPU soon and then later the ke(SE will probably beat us at sea, so no good)
>>47064179
changed to this >>47064257
>>47064141
>>47064257
Seconding
>>47064310
I don't understand why we need your invade anyone, I can see nou, but definitely not SA, and the KE are more likely to fight harder than either one.
>>47064257
fucking this
>>47064283
>>47064285
>we're going to be using 1960 French politics
>our leader took power just like Charles De Gaulle claiming that the democratic government is too weak
>our economic stance is the same as well
>With dirigisme—a unique combination of capitalism and state-directed economy—the government intervened heavily in the economy, using indicative five-year plans as its main tool.
>High-profile projects, mostly but not always financially successful, were launched: the extension of Marseille harbor (soon ranking third in Europe and first in the Mediterranean); the promotion of the Caravelle passenger jetliner (a predecessor of Airbus); the decision to start building the supersonic Franco-British Concorde airliner in Toulouse; the expansion of the French auto industry with state-owned Renault at its center; and the building of the first motorways between Paris and the provinces.
>With these projects, the French economy recorded growth rates unrivaled since the 19th century. In 1964, for the first time in 200 years
We're going to be the greatest nation ever if there's no outside competitors.
We're literally following the pattern up to this point, took power to solve a civil war with vassals,solved the conflict then decided to take power legally by asking the administration, given power and then making a 5th republic.
It's funny how even without wishing for it we managed to copy a real political event.
>>47064416
That is because /tg/ would be good at running a nation, were it not for the fact we would be really corrupt and embezzle money for creation of half-human waifus and shit.
Not to mention we always pick the best long term choices, mostly because our nation can handle some short term stress and i am sure we can agree, this is the best option!
>>47064355
I was thinking about proper world domination, though it would be a very costly war and the se are likely to aid the ke in the conflict, not a good position...Why do i get a sudden suspicion that is the Nose's plan? I rescind my earlier statement but we should definitely remove npu
1130 AE - The White Republic has completed its total annexation of pajit lands.
Our government has been reformed in a compromise format - we have expanded the two-chamber Parliament across all our territories, all Regions will pay taxes to the National Treasury and laws will be the same everywhere, regional governance will focus on fullfiling Centerhold's directives and keeping every province running smoothly.
Imperator Atianus is now 84 years old and considering retirement. He scratches the wound that assassin left across his face. Hmmm, somewhere nice, maybe Ranger Valley.
>Population:92 000 000 (79% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 16 500 000 Eyerdar 7 500 000 Veita 7 400 000 Ocras
>Economy:7/10
>Food stockpiles:6/10
>Food production: 6/10
>Political Stability: 8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47064416
It's funny really, I've studied that part of history, but wasn't even thinking about it as the story progressed.
Oswald Spengler was right, history repeats itself and we've proven that.
>>47064416
I am not even mad, that is amazing
>>47064526
H. Maybe branch out to the east and subjugate savages with improved ships.
>>47064526
Hey, Question, Does Atianus have any descendants just to uh, nip and line of succession in the bud in case it arises.
>>47064526
>C.Improve religion/culture
Give him a proper event to retire at, revamp the Grand tournament with modern sport as well, increase infrastructure and also build a great statue to his glory there.
Also remind us to name our first aircraft carrier after him and name a lot of streets in different streets after him.
He must remain an Icon of glory and unity for generations.
>>47064526
>>47064552
Sounds fun. H.
>>47064526
>B.Food production & Population growth
>>47064526
E. We should have a monument to remember Atanius by. Something like the Arch of victory in Paris. It would work well considering his uncanny resemblance to De Gaulle
>>47064592
He has a family, he recently became a great-grandfather in fact. He has stated that he does not want to start a dynasty, his eldest son is a military engineer who's served in the artillery corps, but the Imperator will return power to Parliament upon his death or retirement.
>>47064526
H
But also give Atianud a grand farewell event. Thanking him from his loyal service, also how about we make him a nice wonder.
>>47064670
>Imperator will return power to Parliament upon his death or retirement.
Thats what all dictators say, I'm just taking necessary precautions.
>>47064670
Also thanks for naming that little port city after me. :)
>>47064670
So this will be his last act? In that case I support
>B
but then
>E for the arch de triomphe
>>47064677
If H wins we've got to build A gigantic ship and name it after him, "Atanius's Legacy" sounds like a great Destroyer's name
>>47064526
H. Let's expand the number of ships, and begin making s massive battleship class, called atanius.
>>47064735
Clearly it should be the name of our first line of medium tanks; Versatile, fast, deadly and loved by the troops!
>>47064781
We could name a class of tank after him as well, we can do both.
Some technological advancements have occured without extra help from the government in these years -telephones, the radio, x-rays, better automobiles (and diesel fuel), the first electricity-generating wind turbines and hydroelectric plants, batteries and the ballpoint pen.
We've begun constructing a new generation of heavy warships, descended from the ironclads - the first generation of Battleships! Armored with steel, with a large crew and mighty guns, these ships are rulers of the high seas! They form the heavy core of our new fleet, while cruisers make a more medium-class ship and for smaller scale we have destroyers, torpedo boats and other smaller craft. We've also begun deploying sea mines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AN04imFDK8
Imperator Atanius has given his farewell speech in Centerhold, not before the Council, but before the people of the city and the nation, thanks to the radio. His work is done and for his last years he will retire to a farm his family purchased near Ringfort. The nation sends him off as a hero and once again elections are held for the post of President and Prime Minister(should we rename it to Chancellor?).
>Population:93 000 000 (79% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 16 600 000 Eyerdar 7 600 000 Veita 7 500 000 Ocras
>Economy:7/10
>Food stockpiles:6/10
>Food production: 6/10
>Political Stability: 8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
Hail Imperator Atanius, the Steel President who hammers the Iron!
>>47064914
>I.Improve economy
Invest in the radio and in cars, diesel engines is where it's at Tractors for every farmers at a reasonable price NOW!
>>47064914
chancellor is good also
let us E
a statue of him in center hold
can I say burgler I have been in this thread since the 6th thread and I want to say good joy
>>47064914
>E.Construction
I would suggest we begin the construction of a series of hydroelectric dams. These will provide our people with fairly cheap power while also giving us reservoirs of water in case of emergency.
>>47064914
Yeah I think renaming it Chancellor will be better.
>A.Exploration
Lets map the entirety of the world, finding any final small islands or whatnot that we may have missed.
>>47064914
B
Yes rename the post but also build monument! or at least mausoleum
>>47064914
Let's keep president.
G. Let's work our way towards a better energy grid and cheap energy too, across all colonies and at home.
>>47064914
Renamed it.
Also L improve our economy with tractors so we can grow more food.
We should really work at strengthening the bonds between either us and our vassals, or with our allies.
>>47064914
>>B.Food production & Population growth
>>47064914
>B. Food production & Pop. Growth
The post of Prime Minister has been renamed to Chancellor.
The first farm tractors have been created and are seeing some use in the Corelands. Land reforms and other measures have been taken to improve the state of agriculture. As more whites have settled across the fertile pajit lands, the agricultural sector is once again stable.
A great monument was built in Centerhold, dedicated to one of the great heroes born in our capital - Atanius, General of the Second Army, Imperator, the Steel President who hammers the Iron!
In 1133, at age 87, Atanius has passed away peacefully in his farmstead in the northeast.
>Population:93 000 000 (79% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 16 600 000 Eyerdar 7 600 000 Veita 7 500 000 Ocras
>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:7/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability: 8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47065203
>I.Improve economy
car and radio industry is a must
>>47065203
>E. Construction
We need to improve the roads with concrete instead of stone. This will make transport easier and allow vehicles of the future to move about greater.
>>47065203
E. Let's improve our rail lines, not not just for imports and such, but for people, intercity and within cities, also improve the grid alongside.
>>47065203
E. Arch of Atanius. It will either be in Centerhold or Ringfort
>>47065203
E roads
>>47065203
You actually used my title for Atanius, Bulgar I...
>>47065203
>C.Improve religion/culture
The new government has invested in infrastructure development, particulary for transport of passangers, intercity public transportation and such.
Another monument has also been built in Ringfort, an Arch of Triumph, dedicated to Atanius.
In other news, the government of the Barniju Spice Islands fell appart after a succession dispute. Troops from the NPU have landed on several Barniju islands, their government has stated that this is a humanitarian intervention and that they shall protect the people of the islands.
>Population:95 000 000 (79% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 17 100 000 Eyerdar 7 800 000 Veita 7 800 000 Ocras
>Economy:9//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability: 8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47065455
>G. Research science
We need planes
>>47065455
L. I doubt it is, maybe ask askif they want some help with the islands?
>>47065455
G. Develop more effective methods of generating electricity.
>>47065455
>C.Improve religion/culture
Should we go assist in the "Peace keeping" and maybe offer vassalisation?
>>47065455
>A
We look southeast of aymsland.
Also how long until we roll a -1 in world not fucking upening
>>47065455
>G.Research science
planes can be researched now.
>>47065455
Changing vote from>>47065501
To
>G.Research science
Cause i have a cunning plan!
>>47065455
G I guess.
>>47065501
Supporting this
>>47065518
Planes can't be research in this era you dolt we don't even have howitzers
>>47065552
>howitzer
but we have diesel engines.
>>47065552
I never said planes, my thoughts were along the lines of biological warfare, better factories, semi-auto rifles, submersibles, better internal combustion engines, better steam and general electrical generation.
>>47065582
Oh shit sorry
The way I see it were heading for a WW1/Franco-Prussian war with the NPE soon, their taking over of the spice isles is a clear land grab on their part. It is my suggestion that we begin to take a far more aggressive stance to the NPE and warn them that further "humanitarian operations" (a disgusting thought) will be answered with the barrel of a good old fashioned northern gun.
>>47065615
Honestly, I don't mind. Though you have made me think of something rather interesting.
In real-world history by this point hot air balloons have existed for quite some time and Zeppelins also yet in ours we have, as far as i can remember, never even conceived of them.
Gentlemen, we can't do planes but we can do flight!
>>47065552
Howitzers came about the same time as planes and we're around 1900 right now. Die Zeit ist gekommen, Mensch wird fliegen
Experimentation into flight have been going on for several decades in the developed world. The Chinks made gliders, the Kaichou recently built their first large hot-air ballon airship, but it is in our nation that the first sustained and controlled heavier-than-air powered flight has occured! A team of engineers in Ocras have created the first successful airplane!
The NPU has occupied the entirety of the Barniju isles. For the most part, they have been welcomed as saviors by the locals. The government in Marzhibur announced the annexation of the islands and the extention of citizenship and voting rights to all its denizens.
I'll make a map of that region of the world, a few islands in there too.
>Population:96 000 000 (79% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 17 300 000 Eyerdar 7 900 000 Veita 7 900 000 Ocras
>Economy:9//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability: 8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47065709
>G.Research science
Lets make these planes useful!
>>47065646
No we do not FIGHT not! USA we FRIEND not! USA
>>47065709
>G.Research science
We seriously need good engines, this would be a game changer, because it would enable us to have tanks and planes ahead of everyone.
Invest heavily in cars,tractors and vans
>>47065709
>>K.Diplomacy and war
Thats it! We need a good war, place the NPU under trade embargo and have our allies do the same prepare our men for mobilization and advise our allies to follow suite.
>>47065709
So how long until that politicall stability roll (or whatever it's called.
>>47065709
G. Planes will be a good accomplishment an will be useful in a war as scouts. Maybe have a Njordgale air force.
>>47065709
>G. Research Science
We must improve planes and engines
Rolled 78, 24 = 102 (2d100)
The aeroplane's invention has amazed the world. The National Academy of Sciences is offering great rewards for new breakthroughs in the areas of automobile and aircraft design and we are seeing new inventions every month.
Natural science has made advances in these years as well - physicists have begun work into radioactivity and atomic theory, while chemists have created aspirin and other new medicines.
Roll for politics - one for us, one for the world, both cases high is good for us.
>>47065945
Meh
>>47065945
International incident incoming
>>47065945
Whelp everyone's still here, now we can all die together!
>>47065945
Rollin to make atomic bombs el oh el
>>47065945
Shit. Looks like WWI
Follow me up on Twitter, I announce when I'm making a bread.
https://twitter.com/conannister
>Population:99 000 000 (80% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 2% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 17 80 000 Eyerdar 8 200 000 Veita 8 100 000 Ocras
>Economy:9//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability: 8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
While our nation is living in years of prosperity once more, the NPU is progressing at great speeds as well, having integrated the Barniju isles and other ocean colonies. The nation stands at a total population of 33 million, quite densely populatedNot as densely as it looks on the map, my proportions are badbut with a booming economy and high population growth.
Comparatively, the Kaichou Empire has a population of around 50 million and the Sunset Alliance has 34 million. The Kaichou are close behind us in the technological race, the chinks of the SA are a couple of years behind them in turn.
The International Socialist League(InSoGue) has grown in power, based in the NPU where socialist ideas have found fertile soil among many.
>>47066207
>G.Research science
>>47066207
G. Fucking atomic bombs.
>>47066207
what does spying going under
>>47066207
>G. Research science
Improved Planes and greater engines
>>47066207
>F.Improve Military
let's replace cavalry and implement scouting planes
btw going to sleep, good night mates, don't you guys dare to lose any war whilst i'm asleep
>>47066248
This.
I find it amusing that we are developing Planes before we develop decent tanks.
Progress continues to be made into engine designs, but it is taking time.
What two other areas should we invest into?
A.Metallurgy & Mechanization
B.Chemical products
C.Military technology
D.Physics
E.Naval technology
F.Power generation
>>47066459
C and d
>>47066459
>B.Chemical products
>C.Military technology
these
>>47066459
A.Metallurgy & Mechanization
B.Chemical products
Better explosives, factories, alloys and potentially poisonous gas weapons? All of my yes!
>>47066459
A.
B.
>>47066459
>F. Power Generation.
We can produce heat, electricity, and power radios and such with improved electricity.
>C. Military Technology.
Tanks. Lots of Tanks
>>47066459
>C AND D
>>47066459
C and D
>>47066459
C and B
>>47066459
C. And B.
>>47066459
C D
>>47066459
C and B.
Rolled 65 (1d100)
The triode tube has allowed to amplify
signals of all frequencies, making electronics more powerful. Advancements in military engineering have resulted in better ammunition for small arms, including smokeless powder. The latest generation of small arms are our first semi-automatic pistols and bolt-action rifles, proud products of Smallpond State Weaponworks.
Heavy armaments have also evolved - the latest field guns feature a hydrolic-pneumatic recoil system and offering superior firepower, range and firing range. Some experimental indirect fire artillery pieces have also been built - howitzers.
A new era of innovation, truly.
The Kaichou have been making weapons tests with artillery-deployed poisonous chemicals as well.
Event roll
>>47066921
Make gasmasks
The Kaichou government has offered to exchange information on chemical weaponry in return for some of our latest armament schematics. Our current research agreement does not include military technology.
The Kaichou say they also have another secret schematic for us if we accept
A.Accept
B.Decline
>>47067132
A.Accept
We lose nothing by not preforming this trade but by doing it we get a free tech!
>>47067132
>A
lets see their offer
Rolled 42 (1d100)
It seems the Kaichou are ahead of us in at least one area - Navy. They've been successful in creating military-use submarines with diesel-electric propulsion! Our naval engineers had only recently begun making breakthroughs in submersible vessels, this will help us greatly in that regard.
In other news, the InSoGue(International Socialist League) has convened once again in Paitras...
>>47067132
A
Also let's talk about the Nose with the NPU
>>47067275
>Doing anything with the NPU
The only thing we do with the NPU is burn them.
>>47067301
they're probably pawns of the orginization
>>47067313
They are also made of rejects and traitors.
wew, forgot submarine image
Socialists are backing a movement for universal suffrage across the world. Both minorities and women within our republic are making political organisations, demanding they be given the right to vote.
We've also had several worker strikes across the country, demanding higher minimum wages, less working hours and safer working conditions.
One or two last rounds.
>Population:99 000 000 (80% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 2% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 17 80 000 Eyerdar 8 200 000 Veita 8 100 000 Ocras
>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability: 6/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47067301
I guess I worded that wrong, what meant to say was talk with the japs about NPU. And see what they know. I put the post without reading it.
>>47067414
>L.Government and laws
>>47067414
F Improve our military
It looks like were going to fight the minorities again. The women don't join the revolution. As if we do L that just what the nose wants us to do.
>>47067414
F
If L it seems like a waste of time, since the nose is keep doing this type of stuff in the future
>>47067414
C. It might be a good idea to read up on Mussolini and with to deal with socialist liberals.
>>47067634
Didn't he use the military?
>>47067687
I'm not sure. He did use paramilitary as in the blackshirts. It might be a good idea to have 2 day weekends for workers. Also workers in more important industries could have better wages seeing as they are more crucial to the nation
>play thread remembering we were in Boer war
>go to work for a few hours
>Come back and we're making submarines and talking about socialism
Hot damn
>>47067750
L do this no voting rights yet
>>47067784
We also made planes
>>47067414
I think we need a back up plan if for whatever reason we have to give universal sufferage it won't lead to disaster
>>47067860
What else happened, I'm not very good at keeping up and I find getting explained of the situation really helps.
Did we push out the rebels from the south?
To deal with the growing social unrest we have several options, one or more can be chosen:
A.Grant universal suffrage(men 20+ and married women)
B.Extend voting rights to other minorities
C.Improve labor laws
D.Crack down on the red menace
E.More nationalistic/religious propaganda to counter this
F.Other
>>47067864
Surely that will never come. As long as our nation remains strong and is pure, our people will not fall into decadence. The Senate would never vote for such a self-destructive act.
>>47067924
we kinds did...... with literally everyone else there damn pajits
>>47067971
I want to propose a plan I need time to type it up I'm on my phone
>>47067971
D and E
>>47067971
>A,B,C
>>47068002
Commie
>>47067971
>F
Here's a potential solution
Women are allowed to vote if they are able to support themselves
Minorities can only vote in local elections for their state(if we federalized) I think I saw an option to do so but I don't know if we did
>>47067971
C. Have a two day weekends for factory workers. We should also pay workers at weapon factories and shipyards more seeing as with out them we would be defenseless. Also choose E. Help give a sense of purpose to our people.
>>47068075
Also D.
>>47067971
D.Crack down on the red menace
>>47067971
C, D and E
>>47067971
A,B,C
>>47067971
A,B,C is best options so choose those
>>47067971
D and E stop the commies
>>47068299
>>47068271
I'm looking at you
>>47068299
