Lets get pretty.
Starting with painted helmets, and taking requests.
>>46925585
Taking non-helmet requests?
I'm looking for gauntlets and gloves. Colourful, ornamented, huge and looking like a punch would hurt.
>>46925653
Can do, mind that all my stuff is real, rather than fantasy stuff.
>>46925711
just a few more helms first
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>>46925711
That's what makes it interesting. Pushing the barriers of ridiculousness without going full animu logic is just what I'm looking for.
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>>46925825
Last painted helm for now. On to gaunts.
>>46925653
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>>46925931
Forgot I had this pic. An art piece by a professional armourer.
>>46925611
PAINTED
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>>46925983
I know, right?
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>>46925983
More requests?
>>46926171
Not a bad kit technically (all the parts look right), but thats a shitty Varangian. Where's the color?! Medieval people LOVED color.
Drab = real is bullshit.
>>46926282
There was a picture in one of these sorts of threads a good while ago of a heavily embroidered red coat and blunt-tipped sword in a glass museum case, most likely an executioner's gear that I would love to have a copy of.
>>46926399
Can't say I've seen it. Check the archives.
I do have executioner's swords though
>>46926498
>>46926512
I love capital weapons inscriptions.
ich schone niemand- "I spare no one"
>>46926532
English capital axe:
"Gode Helpe Mei" is pretty easy to figure out
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>>46926399
anything closer?
It's a blunt tipped sword on a red coat of some sort and in a glass case?
>>46927380
Yeah, it's the sword and the jacket in the case together, the coat was red with really big black/grey embroidery on it.
All the fancy one needs in one helmet
>>46927557
so the jacket was red and the whol pic was mostly red?
>>46927578
>posting shitty paki made repros
Two can play this game,
>>46928379
Back on track
>>46928379
>If doctor Frankenstein was an armour smith.
>>46928607
I have legitmately seen only one practical use of shitty Indian/Pakistani/Chinese armour-like-objects (not even the good costume stuff)
Several reproductions of Lenardo DaVinci's knight-automata have used "wearable display" shit as a quick and relatively cheap way to build the device. Pic related
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>>46928379
What even is that.
>>46928952
Proof that we have angered god.
>>46929131
WOW, that's some terrible shit there. Thumbnail looks like someone popped the head off a cheapo knight action figure and put a ken doll head in its place.
Doesn't this seem kind of thick for a battleaxe?
>>46929203
Sad thing is, I have worse. Im just saving it for a rainy day.
>>46929565
Nope, considering its a North Indian horseman's axe, and the head is actually rather small, The blade is only about three and a half inches long.
The idea was to focus the mass on a smaller surface, for defeating armour. Like a pick or hammer. You don't need a wide axe head for combat.
Pic is a similar piece, with a hand to scale.
Did stuff like this exist outside of romanticized art and a couple of richfags?
>>46930279
Yes, and its my favorite subject and style: In Modo Antiquo
Essentially, a huge revival of fashion, culture, literature and design... For Romaboos/Greekaboos. It was obviously especially common in Italy.
While obviously, the style of having brass and gold plating favored the rich, there was much in design that spread through all strata. Its the reason the Corinthian style of barbute exists, and there is a popular shaping of brigandines that emulate the muscled cuirass.
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>>46925611
That's what i want to see in a late medieval movie, but always everyone is using dull grey, unshaved and unstyled bears. I have never seen colors and heraldic in a good high orcament movie.
I hate this misconception that in the past everyone just wore grey and white with no hair, beard and clothes styling. The past batlefields were fucking glorious and colorfull
>>46930759
is there a good movie where i can see plumes, bright colors and battles? i don't mind much the era, i'm looking for anything pre contemporary era; it can be gunpowder era, late medieval, early medieval, renaissance, classical, feudalism, fantasy, anything.
>>46928846
>mfw if the multiverse theory is true, there's a universe where Leonardo da Vinci invented the world's first warforged.
>>46930436
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>>46930690
>modern LARPers and a single noble's suit
That's the thing though. Is there really enough physical evidence to say it was a common thing on the battlefield?
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>>46930860
All these colors! Yesssss.
>is there a good movie where i can see plumes, bright colors and battles?
Sadly, almost all the really historically accurate films tend to not be focused on war. The Advocate (AKA The Hour of the Pig) is probably once of my favorite period dramas ever, but is about a lawyer uncovering a conspiracy.
Its still awesome though. A great portrayal of Law, civilian life, Romani, Jews and mercantile culture in 15thC France.
>>46930915
>>modern LARPers
Reenactors/recreationists, not larpers.
> Is there really enough physical evidence to say it was a common thing on the battlefield?
No, and no one pretends that it did. On the battlefield, it was never as extravagant, but the fashion did persist in small ways. The over-the-top styling are mostly tournament and parade armour, which we have tons of surviving examples.
The guys in the gold plate are recreating a pas d'armes, or tournament of peace. >>46930473 is obviously a practical soldier, but with his harness influenced by the fashion, in the form of his helm.
What your picture (and my picture) is, is an anachronistic representation of popular history. This is incredibly common. I have $5 saying that the men in your pic are some sort of historic or mythological persona. The fashion in art of dressing historic figures in modern clothes, or replacing them wholesale with another figure (i'll post that next) is quite common.
Pic related. Hector, Alexander and Ceasar.
>>46931140
Continuing on the anachronistic representation of popular history, here is a painting of Jesus being brought before Pontius Pilate. Note who is replacing Pilate, and the Roman legionary in Gothic plate.
>>46930915
And to add on about small cultural fashions that affected practical armour, like in >>46930473, In Modo Antiquo fashion helped propagate the Tabulaccio (based on the Roman oval scuttum) and the Rotella (A dished steel shield similar to the Aspis of the ancient Greeks) into popular use.
I heard you kniggers liked bright colors.
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>>46931324
anon, everyone liked bright colors
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>>46931324
Muh knigga, you heard right.
>>46931652
Requesting: Leather (curboli)torso armor that isn't fantasy shit.
>>46931715
I got your back familia.
Of all the tg/ name fags I want to hate gropey for being a homeless jongleur rennie scum but he is a knowledgable fellow.
>>46931761
Sweet pic but why over the maille I wonder.
>>46931324
>that fucking lion on the helm
Fearsome!
>>46931784
More protection. Boiled leather is actually some pretty strong shit. Over maille and a gambeson it'll do a better job at stopping thrusts over a wider surface area than a coat of plate.
>>46931715
Can do.
>>46931715
>Homeless
Got my own place, but if need be, I just return to one of the many gypsy-hives scattered around the world...
>rennie
Thats fucking fighting words.
I'll own up to the jongleur scum part though.
>>46931784
Reenforcement, dispersing impact over the maille, same as a metal breast plate or CoP.
The kicker is that leather in the required thickness, was actually pretty fucking expensive and woefully unpleasant to produce. One full breast plate of 1/4inch leather is several pairs of shoes worth of soles.
>>46931906
>The kicker is that leather in the required thickness, was actually pretty fucking expensive and woefully unpleasant to produce. One full breast plate of 1/4inch leather is several pairs of shoes worth of soles.
Going by a video Skall put up, I'd say it actually might be better than a COP in some regards, however the main weakness of boiled leather ablative armor is that it fucking breaks. And you can't repair that shit. Whereas if a COP breaks, you just rip the broken plate out and rivet in a new one. Hurrah for modulation.
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>>46931210
V-Vlad...?
>>46931952
>ablative armor
Lets not start that bullshit again.
>boiled leather ablative armor is that it fucking breaks
Boiled leather can crack, but boiled leather armour isn't really boiled. Leather as a treated stand alone armour was typically wax or lacquer imbued, and still has some flex.
Further more, pretty much all surviving leather armour is of the wax/lacquer form. There are a few pieces of simple water boiled, but the material was expensive, and if you're spending that money, its more likely to be processed better. Pic related.
InB4 Leather was peasant armour. It wasn't.
>>46932059
Yup.
>>46931762
>tg name fags
I can only name like 2 or 3
>>46931762
Isn't he Cajun too? I can't hate a fellow coonass.
>>46932069
I don't mean that it -can-crack. I mean that there's no way to repair leather armor once it gets severely damaged like a hauberk or COP can. You have to put down a lot of money for another piece, and as you said that shit was expensive given the amount of leather it could consume.
>>46932148
Where about you from?
>>46932195
The same can be said for plate, but at the same time, if you get to the point where the leather is split, you have more pressing things to worry about than getting your leather repaired.
>>46932059
while Tepes was a symbol of freedom, nationalism, and christian resistance in Eastern Europe, in Western Europe tracts demonized him. Especially in Germany since they fucking betrayed him to the Ottomans so they could make peace.
Always too much armour in these threads. Suggesting beaty things.
>>46932289
>Where about you from?
Evangeline parish
>>46932389
>Evangeline parish
No shit? I got a cousin in Basile. New Orleans Parish myself.
>Suggesting beaty things.
Oui, beaux
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>>46932541
This one makes me giggle
>>46932503
That can't be what I think it is.......
>>46932623
Probably! The file name might clarify.
>>46932645
Shameless sharing my favorite bashy bit. Its done better than my polearm!
>>46932458
Ayyyy got a grandmother in Basile. My dad is no doubt bullshitting, but according to him there's a great uncle who killed a man with a punch and then single-handedly carried the bell up the town's cathedral as a convict when it was being constructed.
>>46932645
Either I'm retarded or things work differently when you're browsing on a phone
>>46932685 nice smasher and bashed btw
>>46932813
Basher* damn phone
>>46931952
Skallagrim is a fucking faggot.
>>46935060
His wife does look suspiciously like a man.
>>46932567
...knowing what that filename means O.O'
>>46930827
The closest Hollywood ever got was Camelot the Musical. I am fucking serious.
>>46931861
>>46931906
>>46932069
So, Gropey, what exactly WAS boiled leather? I know it was not as simple as just tossing a bit of hide into a pot of water, but I've heard, like, fifty different versions of the process. How the heck did it work?
>>46930860
Machines Da Vinci built or planned:
>mechanical lion
>mechanical man
>flying machine
FINALEMENTE METAMORPHIONE APPROVORZA
>>46937105
Unfinished, tanned leather on its own is naturally a "thirsty" material, and seeks to absorb water. The tanning process leaves the collagen of the skin in a suspended state, that when repeatedly dipped in boiling water and cooled, will harden the leather into a near plastic like consistency. This will eventually crack and split, but is possible. This can also be done with oils like neatsfoot or vegetable, but is generally the same in the end.
More commonly, the leather is formed and shaped, and then repeatedly dipped or coated with boiling hide glue, wax or lacquer, which is readily absorbed and fills in the pores f the leather, creating as plasticized, yet somewhat flexible product. Its pretty much garaunteed, that if a historic text mentioned boiled leather, this is the process used.
Pic related: Ooooold work of mine, using boiling hide/hoof glue. Those sloppy wings and the uneven stitching make me twitch, but they are tough as nails.
>>46937229
Someone built a smaller scale, fully fuctioning Da Vinci tank for SCA combat.
I wish I could share the video link, but 4chan thinks its spam.
>>46930827
King arthur from 1960.
Say what you will of 60's cinema, they at least tried to make the past colourful.
>>46937818
tell us what to search for
>>46938052
"SCA davinci tank". Should be a video as the first hit. I hate when people don't upload to youtube.
>>46938083
nope. just a bunch of discovery stuff
quick! I need the most stupidly-fancy gambeson you ever saw!
>>46938929
Are we talking arming clothes or full on padded armors?
Jupons were basically a cross between a gambeson and a heraldic surcoat; very popular for knights to wear over their other armor in the 14th and early 15th centuries. Fanciness was very important.
And who doesn't want a matching cuddly stuffed heraldic leopard on their hat?
>>46925585
Anyone got anything Saxon-related?
>>46939324
anything padded
>>46939551
everyone loves a little saxon violence
>>46939551
What sort of thing are you interested in? Any particular sub-period; Pagan, Conversion era, Viking Age or Hastings?
>>46935060
Assuming such a thing is true, so what?
Most useless "weapon" you've ever seen?
For me, it'd be pic related. Looks like you'd be more in danger of slicing yourself than anyone else.
>>46939729
While these things definitely look dangerous, I can't help but question their use in a fight.
Sure against an unarmed opponent, why not. But why not just take a knife?
>>46940060
My point exactly.
I don't even have the words for how stupid these things are.
I can only assume they're for some sort of performance rather than actual combat.
>>46940123
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>>46939729
yeah, a wild and fire wheel looks strange but not stupid, you have a long cuting edge, nice staby bits and there and the only way you can cut yourself is by being a massive retard. Also monks used that shit in battle during half chinese history
>>46935060
Yes, the Katana deserves much better in D&D.
>>46939685
Any era is fine.
>>46940060
>>46940123
Sometimes I wonder if things like that, or these, may perhaps be mostly about giving people somethign very different to play with when the usual suspects (sword, spear, etc) started to get a bit samey after two or three decades of study. Or it could be something you showed off for the easily impressed, with them being odd being a primary design priority.
Looking at Europe, we see some weapons (or perhaps "weapons") made mostly as conversation pieces, and for judicial combats it may sometime shave been the case that exceedingly strange armaments where prescribed to even the playing field, since neither part would have much of a clue what to do with it.
Perhaps there's something else to them, but for now I'll lean towards this kind of explanation.
And we really need a good book or three on Chinese arms and armour throughout the centuries. Dodging political pressure and cultural revolution skeletons may be a bit of a challenge though.
>>46940352
>Also monks used that shit in battle during half chinese history
That does not strike me as terribly likely, though undoubtedly claims like that, and even more outrageous ones, have been made by various people.
As for useless weapons, are the purely ceremonial cheating?
A more understated bit of silliness.
And enough for now, because Capthca has gone past trying to telling me to just fuck off and will probably try a drone strike pretty soon.
>>46940748
Yeah.
I doubt you'd be able to cut cheese with that thing, let alone a man.
>>46937818
Put half the link under spoiler tags
No one has posted the Mermaid Helmet yet?
>>46932645
What is number 31 called? I've seen it a lot on these threads and it looks cool
>>46941309
some people try to not repost things every thread.
>>46941896
that's a flail, nothing zoopa doopa about it, just a flail.
>>46941896
It's a flail based on a wheat thresher.
>>46942056
What's that? The remains of a war axe head or something?
>>46942092
It's a vertebra with an ancient Chinese arrowhead sticking out of it.
>>46942092
Bone arrowhead, Shang dynasty. And the human vertebra it was found stuck in.
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>>46942170
Ouch.
>>46942170
How'd he die
I've been trying to do research on this, but it's strangely difficult to find concrete info on.
I'm trying to figure out in what ways a medieval soldier might correctly layer armor/clothing if they were to be in a very harsh, frigid climate. I was thinking some kind of front-sealed garment would be good for avoiding strong winds, but with plate thrown into the mix it doesn't seem quite as simple.
And I'm not thinking full plate or heavily-armed, just a breastplate along with other layers.
>>46943577
That's a good point actually, because if memory serves the majority of conflicts around that time took place in either quite warm places or places that were just right.
If only Jerusalem had been in Norway...
Or the Alps or something.
>>46943577
The biggest problem is that this kind of stuff is common sense to historic people of the period, so no one really bothered to write it down.
That said, its pretty typical of art to have heavy clothing over the armour in the cold.
>>46944702
How would you keep warm in plate?
>>46944702
>>46944727
by simply existing
>>46944727
Well, the way I do it is by wearing my normal gambeson, and a heavy wool cote over the top of the plate.
If im still cold, I got a cloak. Unless you're in the far far north, there is little chance that the cold would cause the steel to suck the heat out of you through your quilted arming jack, doublet and shirt.
>>46940696
You have hit the nail squarely on the head, my good man! These sorts of weapons mostly came about later in history as an abundance of martial artists looked for ways to more effectively duel each other rather than use their skills on the battlefield. The advantage of a weird weapon behaving in unexpected ways was sometimes worth the disadvantage of them being relatively shittier overall.
The classic 4 martial arts weapons are the sensible ones: straight sword, saber, spear, staff.
A shame there aren't more swords like this in media.
The closest I can think of is Geralt's Silver Sword from the Witcher gamez.
>>46943068
Old age.
>>46947497
>Dark Souls
