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Age of Chaos is a "gift" edition
All non-Stormcast novels are nice.
remove sigmarines
More Stormcast
>>46919465
SILVER TOWER
>>46919465
Archaon is literally posing there rather than bothering to fight. What a glorious motherfucker.No, I'm not carnac. I'm just a sucker for some classy mid-battle posing.
>>46919465
TheInsider has been exposed for the liar he is and can't stand behind his comments. Never doubt Hastings ever again.
TheInsider. • an hour ago
I have already tried to post today, I'm waiting to see if Natfka has the good grace to allow it.
I never said AoS was selling as well as 40k, but it is doing better the WFB this comes from the horses mouth.
I never attacked WFB fan's,or any other fans.
Go and read my posts in the other threads and see for yourselves.
To those of you who have taken my words and corrupted them to suit your own agenda, you are the very people that ruin the community, why you have done this is beyond me and is simply disgusting.
Hastings has no way of knowing GW financials that simply is nonsense.
Nor does anyone else, apart from the CEO and a few heads of department's.
Thanks to those who have acted like decent people, and I will say this the future looks good.
Wait and see!
I'll probably not be posting here again as the amount of abuse I have suffered for telling the truth is not worth it.
Thanks for all the fish!
>>46919536
Hastings is our only true prophet.
Well him and Sadpanda.
>>46919536
>"AoS has overtaken WFB and is up there with 40k for sales and interest."
>"I never said AoS was selling as well as 40k, but it is doing better the WFB this comes from the horses mouth."
>"The term "Up There" is a way of saying getting better like "getting up there". I was under a tight time line when I made those posts."
There's a little bit of easing off having written the first post in a way that could imply sales match 40k, but I wouldn't say he's admitted to being a liar.
>>46919536
lol'd.
the point is: rumors are rumors.
Expecially regarding sales, if you really think aos is outselling 40k(and i for one like aos)you are delusional.
I still hope the rumor about narrative campaign beign focused on warlords is still true because its an interesting idea.
>>46919536
>I'll probably not be posting here again as the amount of abuse I have suffered for telling the truth is not worth it.
Damage control: The post
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>>46919536
Much like mmo loot drama, lol.
>>46919726
The thing is theInsider predicted points and aside from the sales thing, which is one sentence that seems almost throwaway the rest is entirely plausible.
Tbh sounds like both of them have no clue about sales.
>>46919967
>Tbh sounds like both of them have no clue about sales.
Maybe, but you have to admit Stormcasts not selling is a lot easier to swallow than them doing just as well (or "up there") as Space Marines!
>>46920035
There's no maybe, ifs or buts. Zero stormcast kits were amongst the top28 last year at GW, while several Sm, and even CSM kits placed on the list.
>>46920035
Sure I'm not saying that but he's been right in the past and nitpicking one thing doesn't mean the rest is necessarily wrong.
>>46919967
>The thing is theInsider predicted points and aside from the sales thing
Pretty much everyone was expecting the arrival of a point system down the road
The real thing with "TheInsider" is that it looked so much like GW trying to convince the fans the ship is not sinking it's not even funny.
We'll see if he's right about brets and TK doing a comeback tho.
>>46920035
There's no way Stormcasts are selling as well as Space Marines
I think they are doing better than most of WHFB was, though. That's just the impression I get in my local scene.
>>46920093
Until a few months ago everyone was saying points would never happen.
>>46920107
Mind counting the number of people asking for points before the reveal of the announcement on their facebook page?
So what do you guys think will be in the Flesh Eater Death Battletome next week ?
>>46920187
>Mind counting the number of people asking for points before the reveal of the announcement on their facebook page?
Asking for them and saying they are definitely coming are different things entirely.
How competitive/viable is a fluffy savage orc army (assuming clash comp)?
>>46920219
isn't it the 3rd time you ask that in the AoS general ?
Anyway it's pretty viable, but much better if you add a couple of Arachnaroks. Forest goblin also fit the "savage" theme really well.
>>46920219
Quite fine if you use 4-5 Stonehorns and a few Arachnaroks.
Kind sirs, please, tell me does novel "Warbeast" spoil anything from campaingbooks or is it unrelated story as "Call of Archaon"?
>>46920244
Asked it the first time last thread and only reply was a troll so tried again.
I'd prefer to keep it orcs only.. Maybe ogres too - but I can deal with arachnaroks
>>46920189
Cool shit
>>46920308
Speaking of trolls, Grab a box of river trolls and grab two bodies off a bits seller and you got 5 whole motherfukn trolls.
>>46920048
If I was a betting man I'd say we'll see a handful of Stormcasts kits in their best selling end of year list for this year of 2016
>>46920308
I could have sworn I replied to that...
A fluffy orc list will do good. Really, what part of orc fluff are you going for? What is the movie in your mind that your looking to make?
>>46920366
Quite fortunate then that you aren't a betting man. Stay that way for your own sake.
>>46920366
I've seen way more people use stormcast miniatures as 40k conversion fodder than as what they were intended for though.
That is of course just from the perspective of my personal bubble.
>>46920219
Everything Works In Age Of Sigmar!
>>46920308
Savage orks + Arachnarok will make a good force, if want to expand later you can add water trolls or Big ogre monsters like the thundertusk, they literally rape heavily armored force and that's the only struggle with savage orcs.
>>46920397
That's right, and the reason why people like Serabro, Slaanesh Bro, or Butthurt Beastmen Bro can have a sense of success in this system.
Finished a Bastiladon
Sorry about the bad photo, I still need to make a proper lightbox
>>46920417
Not sure if you're phrasing that as a positive or negative...
>>46920417
How much do the feds pay your bitch ass to fuck up 4chins? Seriously. I can't wait till your fuckass job gets outsourced to bots entirely and you can suck another marketing firms cock you smug shit.
Just end it.
>>46920425
Looks amazing, I love the patterns on top.
>>46920380
Not really any movie or anything in particular. The new orc shaman release I think looks great for a savage orc shaman, but just basically want to paint up a frenzied savage orc horde covered in tattoos etc, don't really like the aesthetic of black orcs and goblins though so would like to keep it as much savage orcs as possible.. Spider riders and arachnaroks I could live with though
>>46920425
Here's a shot from the other side
>>46920397
How do bretonnians perform in clash comp?
>>46919465
Age of Sigmar General
>>46920442
>Just end it.
/agreed
>>46920458
Generally are quite strong.
>>46920446
That's fine...humm...Sounds like you have the makings of a good theme here, and it is a bit strong my only concern for you would be to consider what to add just in case of heavy armor. I'm not too familiar with the Destruction Alliance so...I can't give you much advice. Just that you may want 1 or two things with rend -1 or -2. Just in case your going against a heavy armor army like the Start Collecting Chaos box. Otherwise you should be fine with what you described.
>>46919536
>WHFB fans bullying people for posting rumors
Literal goober gate level of retardation.
>>46920189
Huh? First time I hear of this. I like Ghouls so cautiously optimistic.
>>46920442
We've found Butthurt Beastmen Bro boys!
>>46920538
>not interested in the truth, only muh feelings
Hmmm...
So, looking for my second force next to beastmen. So far I am interested in these 3: Clan Pestilens, Wanderer or Undead with a focus on Skeletons. Out of those which would have the most interesting gameplay? Beastmen are pretty much get into melee and hope minotaurs can clean up at some point, so I am looking for something a little different.
Repostin' :
Hey guys i'm looking to build a combined fyreslayer/dispossessed force and was wondering is there any synergy between the two?
So far i can only find abilities that specifically target each sub faction rather than Duardin as a whole. Have I missed something? Or is all the synergy self contained in each sub faction?
>>46919536
guy's quite pathetic desu
>>46919536
Did fantasy fans really attack the guy for posting a rumor? Serious question: How fucking butthurt are these people? How can ones jimmies be so rustled over a fucking tabletop?
>>46920621
>How can ones jimmies be so rustled over a fucking tabletop?
Ask the Age of Sigmarians who had a meltdown when point system was announced
>>46920636
Other than a few faggots posting "Oh noes, AoS is perfect the way it is plz no points" I have seen nothing of AoS player other than them welcoming the play options.
>>46919536
BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT THE PROPHET HASTINGS
WARHAMMER FANTASY IS THE TRUTH
THE OLD WORLD CANNOT BE STOPPED
>>46920636
Yeah but that died down a lot in a day.
A year later these Jimmies are still rustled to levels pleasing to Khorne. I'm not saying a lot of us didn't hit this level, I'm saying we came down from it.
>>46920621
Not really, more like 40k fans started to ridicule and mock him when he said AoS sells as much as 40k, which is frankly understandable, because it's is quite clearly delusional.
>>46920665
Were your jimmies rusteled because of the point announcement? Why? It is simply another way of play and nothing stops you from playing the way you play right now.
>>46920689
I was miffed, because just a day ago I defended not having points. I got over it in...10 minutes. At which point I reached indifferent. It's optional so didn't care.
I think the thread where the announcement was posted went from Blood Thirster to High Elf Phoenix King (Sipping Tea and writing tranquil Haiku) in about an hour or less.
>>46920578
Wanderer might be good, unique playstyle might tie in on beastmen nature theme.
>>46920689
Sure, but who plays unbound 40k or narrative WHFB. There were rules for that for years. Some people were just worried they'll get forced to play with points because no matter how much GW plasters 'OPTIONAL' over it everyone will gravitate to it. I'm ambivalent personally. I'll see how they handle it.
>>46920588
Might stay that way till new dwarf book
>>46920782
DURADIN
>>46920219
>fluffy savage orc
The battalion in legacy compendium is quite good and fluffy, +1A at 1st charge, and +1, literally 5+ to ignore wound. Savage ork is quite good, when you equip them with bow and choppa, don't forget the big stabba, and 20 model per unit if you can effort; boar boyz just go for wizard hunting.
You need some artillery, rock lobba, doom diver, thundertusk, pick anything that fit your theme, and budget(skip failcast if you can).
Holy shit, just saw the new Orcs, they look amazing. that is all. Shame the new Megaboss is already sold out.
>>46920788
>DURADIN
It's Duardin faggot.
WHFB fan are so retarded they can't even remember a simple name.
>>46920588
>>46920588
>any synergy between the two
They, actually most order have minimal synergy cross faction, so just take whatever that fit your theme. In other side, Chaos gain tons of synergy across faction, no suprise they beat Order in Age of Myths.
>>46921074
Nice try, fucker. Next time you will tell me that Sepharons are Seraphons or some other bullshit like that, right?
>>46921074
It is incredible how easy is to trigger aosfags. Not even a challenge anymore.
>>46921134
>Sepharons
All Lizardmen now have long silver hair and one wing.
>>46921124
Unless it's a Dark Elf Dreadlord (works on anything Keyworded Order), I agree to a point.
Most of my "cross faction" is any Chaos Knight, Any Chaos Warriors, and my Slaaneshi lords are "any mortal Slaanesh" but we aren't super amazing end all of end all synergy with everything either.
>>46921162
Pic very related to your posts.
>>46921134
Not my fault if you just can't even troll properly
>>46921162
Is it just the salt coming from the Ork Megaboss already being sold out ?
What does it feel like having the proof that AoS outsell WHFB ?
>>46921338
>Is it just the salt coming from the Ork Megaboss already being sold out ?
Wow you weren't kidding.
Fantasy Grognards on suicide watch confirmed.
>>46921214
Yeah, hopefully gw don't adopt the scgt idea of restricting greater alliance force org in matched play.
I mean chaos player brings skarbrand in a pestilence nurgle list, why the fuck can't I run my WoC with Skellingtons?
Hoping they keep that shit unrestricted...
>>46921425
>I mean chaos player brings skarbrand in a pestilence nurgle list, why the fuck can't I run my WoC with Skellingtons?
I mean if they keep the synergy quite restricted it's barely even OP.
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>>46921394
Age of Sigmar actually sold out of something. A first for the system. Thank all the 40k Ork players for this. Maybe next time give Sigmarines real bolters and powerfists and they'll actually sell. :^)
>>46921448
Exactly. I want to forge some serious narrative.
>>46920467
Just kill yourself, m8
>>46921473
>NaCl
>>46921473
So AoS Sales so strong they even cannibalize 40K ? wow. GW really nailed AoS then.
>>46921522
>So AoS Sales so strong they even cannibalize 40K ?
Dat google translation lmao.
>>46921522
Yes, they couldn't get SM players to buy their cheap knock offs Stormcasts but Ork players who haven't had a new kit in a decade run after these megaboss kit. Good job. :^)
>>46921575
Glad we agree that AoS hit all the marks WHFB missed to stay alive.
>>46921593
Yes, we are agreed that AoS 'fans' aren't buying anything and its all 40k players with armies neglected by GW buying stuff. :^)
Why do you guys keep replying to these shitposters
>>46921623
For you.
>>46921623
These niggas never learn.
At this point, however, I find it kind of ridiculous and amazing at the same time that people can continue to shitpost the way they do and do it in such a concise manner that they are ontime around 10am EST. Shit baffles me.
On a shittier note, I just got my Deathrattle army squared away but shit's gonna take me at least 3 weeks to assemble and give a basic paintjob to play with. Damn Skellingtons.
>>46920739
Don't you mean Aelf? :^)
>>46920588
They have none in the way of keywords. All of their abilities only effect their own sub-faction.
>>46921623
Because shitposting is over half of the content of these threads anyway?
>>46921732
>New Orruk Release, New Boardgame announcement, Points announced
>People still shitpost
baka
>>46921768
Yeah, its been rough the past several threads.
>>46920621
Trust me he deserves it. Dude made up bullshit, then tried to damage control and accused people of "twisting his words" before throwing his buggies out of the pram and fuckig off.
Also, from personal experience on the site, the dude is the most passive aggressive dipshit ever on the site. He fuckibg nails that point where he says stuff to piss you off yet if you reply you'll probably get banned for reasons (banning works weird there).
In short, he's a cunt.
So anyone there has got the cabagge rider yet?
>>46921623
And the people who keep posting lies about AoS anything other than a sales disaster are not shitposting?
Hell yesterday one of you delusional morons compared GW not bothering to put in any way to balance game to being unplugged from the god damn Matrix. As if GW finally realising that releasing an unfinished game was a terrible idea was going to ruin the gaming experience.
>>46918225
They did. Gordrakk is the firstbkrn literal son of Gork and Mork, the origin of all the new greenskins.
He's a Primarch. An Ork Primarch.
>>46921919
Godamn there were a lot of errors in my post.
Instead of buggies I meant to say toys. Don't know how that happened.
>>46919465
Hypothetically speaking, and I am asking an honest question here, what would happen if AOS didn't pick up and continued to tank?
Would GW do an AOS End Times? If so what would they look like?
What would come next?
I like AOS as a disclaimer.
>>46921939
He isn't the origin of the Greenskins. He is just a shard of Gork that was created when Gork punched a Chaos Dreadhold out existence. Once he was born, he went out to defeat the 5 Megabosses of the Ironjawz and make himself the boss.
Normal Orruks and Ironjawz existed longe before he was born.
>>46920752
>who plays unbound 40k
Obviously this is anecdotal, but it's pretty damn common in my community. Not in the 'I'm bringing eighteen Wraithknights' way, but in the 'I want to bring nothing but Burnas, Meks, and Deff Dreds as a scrapping crew for our Space Hulk campaign.'
I'm aware that this may well not be the norm.
>>46922112
>if AOS didn't pick up and continued to tank?
Gone for good, or go to maintenance mode like mmo.
>>46922148
Someone posted lore two threads ago saying he was the first.
>>46922359
What's maintenance mode?
I don't play many MMOs I'm afraid.
>>46922112
Put on the backburner, left to languish like the Specialist Games before (rules left up on the website for awhile, models no longer sold in stores, gradually left to die)
Old school WHFB is never coming back though, not even if AoS continues to tank.
MFW I realized I like the age of sigmar shit post threads more than 40k general whiney threads.
>>46922360
I am the guy who posted it and I tell you it doesn't say that.
>>46922383
>What's maintenance mode?
No update, minimum to zero bug fix, just maintenance it until all customer leave. Such like what anon said. >>46922389
>>46922398
>it doesn't say that.
But... if Gordarkk say he is the 1stborn, I think not a single greenakinz dare to say no...
>>46922482
>if Gordarkk say he is the 1stborn
What Firstborn means is that he is the first Orruk that was created directly from Gork and Mork. He didn't spring out from fungus like the rest of the Greenskins, the gods created from from nothing.
>>46921898
>several threads
aos general that is not at least 60% shitposting is a bad aos general
>>46922528
What fungus?
The only way there could be new greenskins is if G/M created some, since nothing survived the old setting. Greenskins are not naturally occurring wildlife.
So if Gordrakk is the first born, he's the first. Anything he encountered was created after him, but not in the same place.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10055507
>>46922624
>What fungus?
The fungus spores all Orruk and Greenskins come from.
>The only way there could be new greenskins is if G/M created some, since nothing survived the old setting. Greenskins are not naturally occurring wildlife.
Wrong, the Mortal Realms are populated by the descendants of survivors from the World-That-Was. This includes Orruk tribes. In the new AoS audiobook there are two Orruk tribes that have been fighting each other since the End Times and their war continued in AoS.
>So if Gordrakk is the first born, he's the first. Anything he encountered was created after him, but not in the same place.
Gordrakk was created during the Age of Chaos. There were TONS of Orruks and Ironjawz before the Age of Chaos fighting alongside Gorkamorka in the Age of Myth.
>>46922653
Thing is, we've already sort of got open play rules, there's the least (that I can think) to be added. So, even though after summer I'll still probably be mostly playing open play, I'm most hyped for the narrative stuff as there's new stuff there.
>>46922773
I should add that the bosses of the two Orruk/Orc tribes that have been fighting since the End Times are now mountain sized. Sigmar had to fight them both to stop their rampage. When he returned to Azyr, nobody recognized him from all damage he sustained.
Does this confirm that greenskins have no limit for how large they can grow?
>>46922581
More like a dead general.
And I don't mean the posse of Nagash.
>>46922653
Voted.
Hey AOS General...got a question...How bad would it ruin things if I bought a Warp Lightning projector and swapped out the Skaven crew for something more fitting with my army?
I'm trying to get enough to get free shipping on my order and most of the other stuff I was thinking about getting is sold out. Is this a bad conversion?
>>46923236
>swapped out the Skaven crew
If you can't make a cool conversion, just leave it as your skaven mercenary, since they hired by Nurgle, Tzeentch and Khorne already.
>>46922528
>Firstborn
Maybe, Gordrakk is the Avatar of Gorkamorka, much like Celestant-Prime to Sigmar.
>>46923236
My feeling would be that it's a bit rickety in construction for a slaanesh army - the WLC frame looks like random bits of wood nailed together which isn't very elegant at all.
I mean, in principle it's a perfectly fine thing to do (I've got a tzeentchian beastlord on a disk who's pretended to be everything from a sorcerer on a disk to gorthor on his chariot) but I'm just not sure the WLC will look right.
>>46923371
>Maybe, Gordrakk is the Avatar of Gorkamorka, much like Celestant-Prime to Sigmar.
He is, basically. However, he is Gork's boy. Gork created him from his brutality, and Mork breathed his cunning into him. He is the Fist of Gork.
What's missing now is the First of Mork. Some Greenskin who was created by Mork's cunning and had Gork breath his brutality into him. My guess is that it would be a Grot/Goblin.
>>46923382
Good point. Perfection in all things and that is less than perfect construction.
>>46923371
Worth Considering. I do have a cheese but fluffy list to deal with of a Dreadlord on Black dragon, 3 reaper bolt throwers now, and 20 dark shards.
My list is Lord of Slaanesh on Demon Steed
Demon Prince with Sword and Wings
Sorcerer Lord
10 Chaos Warriors
5 Chaos Knights
1 Gorebeast chariot.
I need something to help take out those blasted bolt throwers or they will chew me up in seconds.
>>46922112
Stealing this anons question.
What would Age of Sigmar End Times look like?
>>46920425
I would have made the white highlights much thinner on the crystals but it looks great
>>46923514
any suggestions Anons?
>>46923591
Sigmar gathers up his old godly allies in Azyr for a last stand against Archaon.
Just as it appears that the forces of Order are about to win....Mannfred Von Carstein pops up from nowhere and screws everyone over.Then everyone dies.
>>46923591
Well I imagine it would play out much like the WHFB End Times did, except Azyr would be under siege and destroyed by the Chaos hordes (funnily enough, the story is working up to Archaon breaking into Azyr).
>>46923793
Yes I agree with the Mannfred part, it would be like poetry to have that happen again.
>>46919465
GW killed my 20+ year interest in Warhammer with this but I don't want to just dump my thousands of models.
How is it doing? is there any hope that it will die or at least be remade into something with point values and strategy? For all I know it already has points values again. If there's no hope that GW will ever unshit the bed then what should I do with my models?
And no GW shills, this is not a troll post, it's a question about the state of the 'game' (an activity with no stakes and no skill is not a real game).
>>46923825
They announced a point value game mode yesterday
More details coming this summer
>>46923825
Do you believe a wargame must have balanced armies to be strategic?
If so you are in luck, army balance rules are coming
>>46923825
If you want points values...
wait 3 months they are coming this summer.
>>46923857
Well that's something anyway, that one detail absolutely killed it for me, I could never imagine how anyone thought it was a good idea.
>>46923864
A good meta is more important so being able to over balance against opponents is the point of any game. It seemed that they had loads of good ideas and then just shat on it all when they threw out any reason to play in the first place.
And round bases, not in this fucking lifetime. Can you just rank up your units in beautiful orderly squares or has that been banned?
>>46923924
>I could never imagine how anyone thought it was a good idea.
It's fun in its own way
I am glad they are adding a point system, though; I enjoy unbound as well as comp
>>46923895
Pfffftahahahahahahaha
>>46923943
I think it's okay if you know your opponent well but there's enough fucking munchkins in this hobby that I don't see how it could work with unknown players. I had to deal with so much cheating even when there were points it was too much.
I miss Duncan.
>the aesthetics of AoS is entirely style over substance
>the rules have the depth of a sippy cup
>the fluff is entirely devoid of any wits or logic
Are dedicated AoS players the most shallow and unsophisticated of fa/tg/uys?
>>46923973
Kind of agree here.
I find its fine with mates, but there needs to be structure between to unknowns. It's just too annoying to balance it when the two of you have different ideas of what balance is.
>>46923924
It's not banned, but has 0 strategic benefit now. Might even be detrimental. You know like how American colonists were able to use tactics derived from savages to hold their own against the best army in the world at the time. Rank and file becomes a hinderance when everyone else is free moving, or spaced out. best advantage it could offer is to block some LOS.
>>46923973
Yeah I hear ya
I really enjoyed open play AOS because I have some good buddies that aren't powergaming WAAC faggots, but trying to play it with strangers is a nightmare combination of aspergers and bad odours
>>46924020
It's a testament to how much i loved Fantasy that I would brave the local GW and people who have no idea of personal boundaries or hygiene. But I wouldn't do it to let them smash their unpainted action figures against ones I've spent months painting.
>>46924004
Do people do it though? And how many people have kept their square bases? It seems like something that could throw an opponent off if they were expecting you to skirmish and you're ranked up, just like when they figured it out thousands of years ago.
I think it could swing the other way. Maybe the good guys win, and the chaos Gods get stomped for once. It would still be the end of the setting, but not the despiteallthe esteffortsofeveryonechaosstillwins we are so used to
>>46924132
No rule against it so no harm. Some (all) of the Seraphon stuff my sister uses is from (10) years ago when we tried to get into fantasy but it was too damn slow playing and it's all square based. No rule against it, but no reason to either not going to throw anyone off. Anyone using old warhammer stuff mostly left it on square bases.
>>46924132
I kept my skaven on their square bases, but that's because I still play WHFB sometimes. Plus, that's a lot of base swapping to do for a swarm army.
>>46924132
AOS really punishes tightly packed groups of units with cleaving strikes
I kept summoning Kroxigor against a guy that had a bunch of empire units on square bases. Eventually he realized it would be a good idea to swap his stuff to circle bases.
I am surprised that GW didn't a commission a vidya game to promote AoS.
So if they are actually going to do it, what kinda of vidya game genre should they choose?
>>46924322
First person shooter?
>>46924322
A pay to win mobile turd of course.
>>46923445
Primarchs were preceded by the Warriors.
Prime and Gordrakk are Primarchs.
>>46924322
I really think an arena/spectacle fighter would work really well. It's more YOUR GUYS than massed combat any more so Total Warhammer is a bit too large scale.
This has probably been asked before but I just wanted to check. How do the contents differ in the Battletomes vs the "army" books?
Does the battletome Order contain all the lizardmen stuff in their book just without the fluff?
Or is it how I think it would be for most sales:
Order contains units + army scrolls, lizardmen contains units + different scrolls? So if I wanted all the Orc stuff, I'd have to buy Destruction + Orc book? or just Destruction?
>>46924669
>>46924322
>Warhammer MOBA
Please no
>>46924641
>Primarchs were preceded by the Warriors.
Primarchs came first and from their geneseed the Space Marines were created.
Celestant Prime was among the first Stormcast.
Gordrakk is just an Orruk that Gork and Mork created during the Age of Chaos to be their chosen Megaboss. Orruks existed before he was born see (>>46922773).
Gordrakk is more like the Emperor of the Destruction faction.
>>46924770
There is 40k MOBA, early access or beta or whatever.
It. Is. Bad.
>>46924785
Link?
>>46924785
Not a surprise there, since there is no such thing as a good moba.
>>46924817
Heroes of the Storm is nice.
>>46924798
Dark Nexus Arena? Something like that. It's on Steam.
>>46924826
I don't want to give a shitty company like Blizzard my money.
>>46924768
>Does the battletome Order contain all the lizardmen stuff in their book just without the fluff?
Yes
Any model tagged with Order is in the Grand Alliance: Order book
Similarly, all Chaos units are in GA Chaos, all Death are in GA Death, and all Destruction are in GA Destruction.
*Except Tomb Kings and Bretonnians, but they have free rules online
>>46924975
So to add to that, are all the Warscrolls[?] (unit groups) the same in both books?
>>46924915
It's F2P.
>>46925032
Do you mean the Battalions? No, those are not free.
The GA books contain some battalions but they aren't the complete set. I'm not sure about every faction but I can speak for Seraphon here:
1 in Start Collecting! Seraphon box
4-5 in Battletome: Seraphon
2-3 in GA: Order
1-2 in Godbeasts
I'm sure there is more out there. They add a few to each major book release, usually fluffy ones that correspond to the material in the book.
You'll have to dig through the online scans to find all of them.
Its been a year, why do people still shitpost these threads. Like is your autism so bad that you have to hate on a game you dont like in EVERY thread.
If you want it to bomb just stop posting, let the thread die. Let it sink with 20 posts. You always say nobody plays the game so the thread should bomb hard without all you shitposters bumping it constantly.
But you know thats not going to happen dont you. You know the games doing fine and these threads are active when theyre not full of shitposts. But hey, look how well WHFB thread do. I havent seen a single one in months.
>>46924892
>servers shut down since March 31st
LOL
>>46925132
Oh that's disappointing. I was asking because I was considering picking up the 4 forces books and was trying to discern the purpose of the "army" books.
Given that I can get the scrolls for units online anyway I figured the forces books contained all of the battalions as a way to get you to buy the books. Apparently it's not that simple.
Thanks anon.
>>46925225
The grand alliance books are just for convenience, really. I find the app very cumbersome and I enjoy having a hard copy in my hands.
Also makes it really easy for my opponent to look up any rules that he needs.
They're also way cheaper than the old codexes. I think GA Death and Destruction are only $20 each.
They are worth buying imo
>>46924253
How do square bases prevent one to play on open formation?
>>46924770
I hate mobas like the next person - it's the same thing as the MMO boom of the late 00s. Instead of the WoW killer, it's the LoL killer. I meant more along the lines of maybe Shadow of Mordor or even Spartan Total Warrior if you remember that lol
>>46925253
Ditto. I have them all for convenience.
Did GA Order get updated with the Extremis Chamber stuff? I bought the battletome for it but I'm wondering.
>>46925280
They don't, but they stack up better so players tend to group their units up more. The smaller edge space sometimes allows you to bring an extra unit or two within range with melee weapons.
You might be able to get more hits off but it also opens you up to a huge amount of cleaving attacks.
In the example of Kroxigor vs Freeguild, getting in range with your swordsmen for 3 more attacks with 5/4 R0 D1 weapons is not worth giving the Kroxigor 3 more 4/3 R1 D2 weapons.
>>46925168
Its the same faggots trolling both Fantasy and AoS threads, pretending to represent the opposite game.
Report them. They get banned for it.
>>46925345
Yes, EC is in GA:Order.
I only got my copy last night so I haven't looked through it closely enough yet, but I think there might be a unique Battalion for EC in there as well.
>>46925168
There have been quite a few. There is one up right now. But, they are consistently dead.
>>46925331
"the next person" doesn't hate mobas though
>>46925353
What's a cleaving attack?
>>46925404
I meant shitty knockoff mobas.
>>46920452
>>46920425
I love the warm orange. Very lovely.
>>46925417
It's an ability that some weapons can have. It allows the user to have 1 attack for each model within their striking range.
I know Kroxigor have it (it's called a Sweeping Blow here) as well as a few Khorne units.
>>46925417
Some models don't have a fixed attack value, but rather get as many attacks as there are enemy models in weapon range.
>>46925475
Kroxigors with moonhammer, Decimators, Prosecutors with grandaxe, Skarr Bloodwrath. Can't think of anyone else right now.
>>46923983
It's still shitposters
>>46923972
Don't strain yourself bucko. You'll need thy strength for the amount of cocks you'll be guzzling later.
>>46925564
At least he gets got game at all.
>>46925612
>At least he gets got game at all.
>>46925612
I'm the guy he's insulting and even I think your full of shit.
>>46925726
>We walked to school
>He would follow us on his bicycle
Wut.
I understand if you don't like AoS but why do people have to constantly come in here and shit up AoS threads all the time? No one is changing anyone else's opinion here.
People are allowed to have different opinions.
>>46926089
Just stop bitching and report them.
>>46926073
You can bike pretty slow, less than a decent walking pace.
>>46925083
I'm gonna guess you need to pay to unlock the cool characters.
>>46926229
Or do quests to get gold so you can buy any character you want.
The gold from the tutorials and character progression is more than enough to buy any character you want.
>>46926229
Nope.
Every week there's one character of every role and from each Blizzard game that is free, and they rotate each week.
By playing, you earn in-game currency to unlock characters for keeps.
You can try out any character in a short AI match so you kniw who you want.
Its just easier when you do buy like one character to main as.
Oh, and most cosmetics other than a single "took a level in badass" from the base model cost money. But cosmetics don't count.Lili is best girl.
>>46926073
Have another.
>>46926258
Unlocks in multiplayer games have been a cancer since forever.
>>46926258
Unlocking characters in any game is bullshit.
>>46926298
>Lili is best girl.
I used to main her, then I discovered Brightwing.
Brightwing is much more fun.
>>46926352
Not in games like SSB.
I love the satisfaction of kicking so much ass that you get another member on your team.
>>46923979
Emma is a qt
>>46926387
I'm always against locking away a playstyle from the start of any multiplayer game. You shouldn't have to play a boring playstyle until you can go with the playstyle you want to play.
>>46926456
The fuck do you mean, all characters are free.
You just have to unlock to play the same character week after week after week.
They're basically telling you to play everything.
>>46926456
That's fair I suppose. Just personal preference.
>>46926455
Something tells me that isn't from the GW website. Are people stalkin' her instagram/facebooks/twitter?
>>46926455
>Emma is a qt
>Implying Duncan isn't the #1 waifu
>>46926562
I'd love to invite Duncan over andpaint miniatures together
>>46920425
don't know if it is is the color scheme or the fact that it doesn't have a base but it looks like 3€ toy
>>46926588
Not OP of the photo - the strong highlights make it look a bit cartoony, yeah. I still like how it looks though, it's very clean and has a well defined style.
>>46926456
Eh the most recent smash does it well enough since the secret characters are piss easy to unlock and you already have a Fuckton of play styles to begin with
Who here /squarebasethuglife/?
Fuck round bases. Goyim workshop will never get me to rebase my fantasy shit
>>46927216
Right here. I own 5 armies and hundreds of models fuck GW if they think I'm going to rebase all that shit!
>>46926552
How can you "stalk" a public social media account? Isn't self promotion the whole point of social media? Not that I support stalking her for real but come on.
>>46926385
But lili is a sweet, tender loli panda waifu.
>>46926301
Goddamn, that's the cutest.
>>46927362
She was loli in her short story series, she's teen now.
Given hiw Chen sees a short but curvy dead relative panda and remarks "she looked like Lili" while walking away sadly after burying her, she'd be legal in a medieval society.
Then again, HotS is a multiverse crossover from all points in history. Tassadar alive, Raynor not knowing the events of Heart while Tychus doesn't know the events of Wings.
That's not even getting into how the cosmetics are different universes, like how Kaiju Diablo attacked Kexan so they built five robots that transform into Mecha Tassadar to fight him.
>>46927286
just do like me.
Buy this https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Citadel-25mm-Round-Bases
then use http://www.master194.com/encyclo/patafix/patafix25.jpg
And just put your beautifully modeled base on top of the black round shit.
>>46927431
I'm feeling generous.
Last one.
>>46926298
Theres 10 free characters every week
>>46928135
Dayum, they increased it!
>>46920689
Underrated post
So I'm thinking ahead and wondering about adding a Soul Grinder, but am wondering how to do a good conversion on it. I've seen some good ones, anyone have any ideas how this one was done?
Also want to make it look less Scifi more Steam Punk /Fantasy. Any Suggestions on a bits seller, to get the legs at and what to use for the body (Don't mind the project costing up to $80 USD)
>>46929188
I saw an amazing drider conversion where they took the legs off a goblin spider but no idea of the one you posted. I quite like taking the head of a fiend of slaanesh for the head of a soul grinder too.
>>46929188
Use the legs from an arackanork spider to avoid 40k feeling(really, thats one model that doesn't fits into fantasy). The body here looks hand made, but you can use any torso you like from third parties, even from greater demons and stuff it with good amounts of green stuff.
If GW decided to make Godbeasts played on TT, how big are they going to be on the table?
>>46929766
The whole table
>dangerously out of the loop fag reporting in
Used to play a lot of warhammer lost interest with AOS, heard points are coming back from a mate was he bullshitting me or is this legit?
>>46929540
any recommendation for a body? probably resin or reaper bones?
>>46930102
Its legit, but to what degree is unknown.
>>46929766
>AoS Warmaster
>Godbeasts are still titan/knight sized
>>46929766
Way too big.
>>46925168
>>46925358
No you don't?
You don't even understand the term "shitposting"
Protip: Its not posts you disagree with.
AoS comes at the cost of a game that has 30 years of history.
You're the autistic one if you can't put together why people might be a little miffed.
Do words mean anything anymore, all I see whenever I come back to check up on horuse heresy or AoS I see a load of people using terms that don't apply to what they are talking about.
Its like watching a preppy white kid try to use Ebonics, your using the wrong words constantly, and too anyone it just comes off as juvenile deflections on actual criticism.
Why is most art release for AoS so awful?
Why is the lore so bad?
Why are sigmarines so generic?
Why are the prices so high?
Why are they continually releasing things for sigmarines when if they had any common sense they would give as many factions an update to ensure their fanbase things aren't cut?
How pure was the cocaine that GW Ceo's snorted when they decided to put a golden statue of a sigmarine in front of HQ?
What you interpret of shitposting is me expressing my frustrations of a game I have followed for longer then a decade, from me going over to friends house to specifically read his army books.
Why is it shitposting to you when I am coming to a GENERAL thread to discuss bad aspects of AoS.
This isn't
>Sigmar circlejerk thread
This isn't
>Shit on AoS thread
It's
>AoS general
Which means all discussion of the game bad and good.
Get over yourself, and if the mods have fallen so low that they would ban people for "trolling" "shitposting"(expressing opinions others may be triggered by)
Then ban me for life because I never want to take part in a community so incredibly polarized by either extreme fan loyalty or denial of any redeeming features.
>>46929766
The rumor is they are. They'll be based on a Realm of Battle tile that fits into the rest modularly and can reach anywhere on the battlefield without moving.
>>46930495
If its an off-topic post, in other words talking about Fantasy in an Age thread or Age in a Fantasy thread, its a bannable rules violation.
>>46930495
This.
Sigcucks are so blind to honest legit criticism it's embarrassing.
>>46930766
No its not?
That's like saying discussing DaS in a DaS2 game is off-topic.
AoS takes place in a continuation of WHFB, not only that its a replacement at the cost of one.
Stop hiding behind the rules to prevent any criticism of the game.
>>46930820
>AoS takes place in a continuation of WHFB, not only that its a replacement at the cost of one.
According to /whfb/, it isn't. Dicussing AoS there is forbidden and off-topic. So that's the end of that unless you are willingly to dip into double standards. assuming you are from /whfb/.
>>46930912
Are you a child?
Are you honestly defending trying to silence others by basing the rules off of the interpretation of another general?
I cannot see a grown man using this reasoning.
>>46930985
AoS is not allowed in /whfb/ and whfb is not allowed in /AoS/. These rules were created for the good of both threads.
Now get out.
>>46931042
Who made those rules?
You lord determiner of rules?
You can discuss either, stop being such a girl kissing faggot.
Either can be discussed, stop trying to backseat moderate and stomp your feet like a little child coming up with rules that were only made and enforced in your head.
>>46930102
Legit.
>>46931089
>Who made those rules?
The community.
>>46931131
No it seems to me to be a few people who are desperate to keep any discussion critical of the game.
>>46931131
Which I'm part off as well, you just don't get to pick and choose who represents that based on who disagrees with you and who doesn't.
>>46930495
>Why is the lore so bad?
I find this incredibly disingenuous. I would kill to have an actual discussion about the lore BUT generally the guys who claim that AoS lore is bad haven't read any of it.
They get hung up on names and titles but have they read any of the campaign books or battletomes? No. They tell you the lore is bad because it's bad and then they demand that you spoonfed them the lore and teach them how the setting works which drags down actual discussion.
From the content of your post and posting style I thin recognize you. You are the epitome of "sponfeed" anons which is why I called your disingenuous.
How about you read the books and novels, get an idea of the setting, and then we can engage in discussion?
>>46925168
I thought the shitposters were the people pretending to like Age of Sigmar?
>>46931171
>failed attempt at samefagging detected
You are not. You break the sames. Get out.
>>46931303
>From the content of your post and posting style I thin recognize you. You are the epitome of "sponfeed" anons which is why I called your disingenuous.
This level of paranoia is typical of someone so polarized by a echochamber which becomes increasingly rabid as they see all criticism to come from outside sources.
I haven't posted on here for a few weeks and when I did it was to ask about a tech thrall conversion for the heavy chainblades.
>How about you read the books and novels, get an idea of the setting, and then we can engage in discussion?
You mean purchase products from GW who have replaced a brand I enjoy which I'm not satisfied with its replacement?
The lore of WHFB was good without ever reading a book.
I do truly think the lore is bad, for many reasons, if you want we can get into them but it seems you don't want to have actual discussion.
>>46931388
Or I am alt-tabbing a game and made a mistake.
Again the incredible paranoia which can be attributed to a echochamber.
>>46931303
None of these faggots , but Right now I've actually been listening to the audio dramas that were available in the pastebin compendium and so far I'm enjoying it. I'm not going in any particular order but at the moment I'm finishing the Hunt for Nagash aka Sigmarines Bizarre Adventure 2: Electric boogaloo.
Really enjoy the whole dramatization of the battle sequences. I thought I'd just hear dry british men speaking the lines but even the monologue Nagash had during the beginning of each drama was really enjoyable to listen to.
>>46931432
>Buying anything
theres a pastebin with all the shit you need already there for free you stupid fuck. Actually make an effort to read it. If you want to talk shit about it , go open one of the files and take a fucking gander then come shit on the General with something relevant to say than >hurrdurr its bad because I don't like it
>>46931303
Sigmarines that reincarnate endlessly fight demons that can't actually die and also there's undead.
That's not interesting, there's no stakes. if the Sigmarines lose a battle, they'll just try again, and if they win it the second time, Chaos can just come back and try for round 3. The same people fighting the same battles forever in some nebulous"realms" where everything's made up and the points don't matter.
>>46931504
>theres a pastebin with all the shit you need already there for free you stupid fuck. Actually make an effort to read it. If you want to talk shit about it
You know being abusive to another poster is against the rules right :^)
Really dude, you need to chill out and stop associating your own self worth so heavily with this game.
>Failing at greentext.
I think you make the argument for me.
>>46931432
>I haven't posted on here for a few weeks and when I did it was to ask about a tech thrall conversion for the heavy chainblades.
I have been in every AoS thread since the very start and even before during the End Times and way before that. I know exactly what's going on and what kind of people that enter here.
>You mean purchase products from GW who have replaced a brand I enjoy which I'm not satisfied with its replacement?
Or pirate them. Look in the pastepin above. 99% of the novels and books are in there. You have no excuse, start reading.
>The lore of WHFB was good without ever reading a book.
You having a giggle?
>I do truly think the lore is bad, for many reasons, if you want we can get into them but it seems you don't want to have actual discussion.
I don't trust you to have any good opinions because you just admitted that you have to interest in delving into the lore of the new setting and examining it thus you will not able to provide any good discussion.
I hesitated to call you a shitposter but seeing your admission now, I can call you a shitposter with no regret.
>>46931516
>That's not interesting, there's no stakes.
Wrong.
Read Quest of Ghaz Maraz, or Balance of Power, then tell me what would have happened if the Stormcast lost the battles there.
>>46931540
Like I said. look at this behavior. Trademark of a shitposter.
![tumblr_nr892tiGAU1tb8cbpo1_1280[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qdH4cIY.jpg "tumblr nr892tiGAU1tb8cbpo1 1280[1]")
Somebody sell the Stormcast Eternals to me, or point me at some decent fluff.
I've been eyeing up the starter kit for a little while to take the plunge into AoS, but one thing that's holding me back is that I... don't really get them?
Are they more than one-dimensional holy warriors?
Do they take their masks off?
When they are killed, what actually happens? Do you get 'new' Stormcasts?
Thanks in advance.
>>46931565
>I have been in every AoS thread since the very start and even before during the End Times and way before that. I know exactly what's going on and what kind of people that enter here.
Then I think you spend far too much time here and not playing the game your defending.
>Or pirate them. Look in the pastepin above. 99% of the novels and books are in there. You have no excuse, start reading.
I have never read more then the army books why should I read into lore that when reading army books doesn't interest me.
>You having a giggle?
No I'm not, it had flaws but it was well fleshed out and wasn't over the top fantasy which only serves to be a deus machina to cover for poor writing.
>I don't trust you to have any good opinions because you just admitted that you have to interest in delving into the lore of the new setting and examining it thus you will not able to provide any good discussion
That was either you or another anon who said they dont wish to discuss anything unless I read the books.
Which seems to me to be more of a cop out then someone actually interested in discussion.
>I hesitated to call you a shitposter but seeing your admission now, I can call you a shitposter with no regret.
Glad to to see you are comfortable using terms you don't have a basic understanding of.
>>46931450
You see this, guys? Follow this anon's example!
>>46931616
How is pointing out that saying off topic is against the rules when discussing WHFB on Aos general, then go on to be abusive which is also "technically" against the rules.
It shows that the rules don't really matter to that anon, just whatever works to defend the game.
Are you guys even trying right now?
Honestly you keep on stumbling over you own logic and just resorting to rage when rebuked.
>>46931624
I ain't an expert, but they are essentially a faction of Knights Templar esque orders(Stormhosts or similar to an SM chapter) that have their own personal deal while in service to Sigmar. They are just really beefed out humies that can still die. But when they do , provided their Lord Relictor hasn't pissed around and gotten himself gibbed during the fight, their souls head back to Big Dad Sigmar in Azyr to be reforged and essentially put back into another beefcake body to fight once more, provided they still don't remember shit.
Is there an ETA on the points system? Really weighing which game system I want to pick up but I want to see where AoS goes with points.
>>46931710
So do these fresh Stormcasts just pop into existence at their base (if that's a meaningful concept) as fresh beefcakes with no memories other than 'I am Holy Warrior, I make smash for Sigmar?'
Does this also mean that if, say Lord Relictor does get gibbed, then the total number of Stormcasts goes down and there's no way to get those numbers back?
>>46931642
>Then I think you spend far too much time here and not playing the game your defending.
The advent of technology allows me to check on this board no matter where I am or what I am doing.
>I have never read more then the army books why should I read into lore that when reading army books doesn't interest me.
That sentence doesn't make sense.
You refuse to read the battletomes (The armybooks and rulebook equivalents of WHFB) and campaign but somehow you claim that you have a valid opinion on the lore?
You crazy dawg.
>No I'm not, it had flaws but it was well fleshed out and wasn't over the top fantasy which only serves to be a deus machina to cover for poor writing.
Nothing is flawed atm except your post. You said that WHFB is good even without reading a single army book or rulebook. I am not sure how you cam to that conclusion.
>Which seems to me to be more of a cop out then someone actually interested in discussion.
I am interested with discussing the lore with someone who read it and formed an informed opinion on it.
Discourse with the willful ignorant serves nothing.
>Glad to to see you are comfortable using terms you don't have a basic understanding of.
Nope, you admitted here that you are not interested in discussion. You say the lore is bad because you say it's bad, not because you read it and found it to be bad or lacking.You are not here for discussion. So you basically screwed your own high ground.
>>46931616
>Read Quest of Ghaz Maraz, or Balance of Power
why should I? I don't care about giant gold guys fighting giant red guys forever
>>46931776
No no they have to go through a training process that I have no read too much into besides being described as and quote "an ardous training regimen that takes decades, if not centuries, to finish which molds them into the Stormcast" or something along those lines.
I should clarify: The Lord Relictor it seems is charged with making sure the souls go back to Sigmar because without him I suppose that sweet and hidden Pappy Nagash wants a bit of them for himself since he believes all souls of the dead belong to him or alternatively letting the souls get taken by Archaon and his band of negrolites. So essentially he's a Chaplain with an actual job and the added bonus of calling down the Storms of Sigmar (Lightning bolts outta fuckin' nowhere)
Some soldiers have been reforged so many times ( They end up usually being Lord Castellants) that they know if they get gibbed again then Sigmar ain't doing shit about it.
I'd liketo assume that the Lord Relictor is a huge factor in the maintenance of the Stormhost
>>46931834
Then why the fuck do you want to get into any form of debate if you know nothing about the gold faggots or any other bit of the lore that involves the game you hate so god damn much? Bro you're just baiting at this point. Go read at least one book and then come back with some form of an argument to debate.
Sigmarines may be faggots on the tabletop but in the lore they have some interesting points. Still overly beef cake golden Thor Odinsons but interesting.
>>46931834
To know the stakes. If you are not willingly to read the fluff, then how can you say that there were no stakes?
You made a mistake but unwilling to admit you are either incorrent or don't know enough about the setting to discuss it.
>>46931850
>Some soldiers have been reforged so many times ( They end up usually being Lord Castellants) that they know if they get gibbed again then Sigmar ain't doing shit about it.
Wut? So, part of the deal is that they can get resurrected, but if they die too much then they don't?
>>46931881
>Sigmarines may be faggots on the tabletop but in the lore they have some interesting points.
such as?
>>46931776
Nah, he's got a wife and two kids back home.
Bro, why the fuck do you care? This is a super "high fantasy" setting, it isn't exactly Hemingway up in here.
>>46931783
>The advent of technology allows me to check on this board no matter where I am or what I am doing.
No, what I'm saying is I think you are to heavily invested emotionally in this subject.
If what you say is true, you are spending to much time defending this game from criticism.
>You refuse to read the battletomes (The armybooks and rulebook equivalents of WHFB) and campaign but somehow you claim that you have a valid opinion on the lore?
No I said I read the army books and other shit but not the novels.
I think its your reading ability that is impaired but I could be wrong.
>Nothing is flawed atm except your post. You said that WHFB is good even without reading a single army book or rulebook. I am not sure how you cam to that conclusion.
Because I see books as a way for GW to get extra money while building lore for characters.
>Discourse with the willful ignorant serves nothing.
If you're are the same person bringing up the rules, then its already been shown you are quick to decide that something is objectively that way when in fact you are blinded by emotions.
>Nope, you admitted here that you are not interested in discussion. You say the lore is bad because you say it's bad, not because you read it and found it to be bad or lacking.You are not here for discussion. So you basically screwed your own high ground.
I think at this point you are reading whatever you want to read.
>>46931888
I read the back of the box. Sigmarines fight Chaos over "realms"
boring
>>46931897
So take it from this: I'm listening to the Hunt for Nagash audio series. In this it tells the tales of the Hallowed Knights Stormhost, Eternals who are pretty audible on their overly high faith in Conan( Sigmar ). In some instances, the narrator was stating that some higher ups ( don't know the names of the ranks off the top of my meesk) are so gat dam rad but so reforged that if they died in the battle that they may not see an opportunity to be reforged.
It sounded odd and trust me I feel like I'm not explaining it right but I don't play them either so I'm not an expert. But listening and learning about them through the series even though I'm primarily a Death player has been quite interesting.
Furthermore, Nagash is actively fucking up the Eternals souls that are in transit, whether or not he succeeds in scooping them out from the nether that is whatever the fuck surrounds the realms. All because he don't got da powah like he used to back in the old days.
>>46931910
>Bro, why the fuck do you care?
Looking at getting into AoS because there are quite a few keen AoS players at my store and potential for more games = good
Know shit all about lore because last time I considered non-40k was like 8 years ago, but I downloaded the AoS app and have been ogling some models.
AoS starter set is a nice deal and with the Battle Brothers vouchers it's only 5 quid more than an SC! box
If Stormcast fluff can actually hook me into being invested in them then I'll probably go with the starter set and flog the Khorne models / let them gather dust.
If it doesn't, I'll either see if Sylvaneth get an SC! box or go with Seraphon, because angry trees and dinosaurs riding larger, angrier dinosaurs are cool.
>>46931915
>If what you say is true, you are spending to much time defending this game from criticism.
Not really. Only one annoying posters appear.
>No I said I read the army books and other shit but not the novels.
No, your post was lacking and you didn't write it well. Step up your game.
So if you are willing to read only WHFB army books, then you are willing to read only battletomes and campaign books of AoS. These alone should give you more than a good grasp on the setting.
>Because I see books as a way for GW to get extra money while building lore for characters.
What the hell dos this have to do with anything?
>If you're are the same person bringing up the rules
I am not,
And you are objectively willfully ignorant because you admitted that you didn't read any AoS book or novel.
>I think at this point you are reading whatever you want to read.
Only what you posted.
at the beginning of every 40k book there's that " in the grim darkness of the 41st millenia, there is only etc"
does Age of Sigmar have something like that?
>>46932042
Only when*
>>46931897
>>46931850
>>46931776
To make it short: basically stormcasts are humans powered up and beefed by divine power-sigmar's to be precise.
When they die lord relictors take their souls to be later resurrected as their bodies are taken away by sigmars thunder.
Every stormcast death has consequences tho: the stormcasts lose a little bit of his humanity and Sigmar becomes weaker, because he uses his own strenght to power up the stormcast.
>inb4 muh stakes
their appearance is human, as they take their helm off when they are not fighting, sometimes.
Sigmarines idea is not bad per se, i LOVE the idea of a world completely ruined by chaos, and in a dark age like this they come down like a shimmer of light. Its just...GW is focusing WAY to much around them. It wouldve been a LOT better if only the initial focus was on them, and then the idea of freedom and Order would spark rebellion against chaos, slowly ammassing and convincing the scattered races of the old world to fight togheter. Instead we get ONLY fucking sigmarines, as other races as side characters.
Some writes are not bad, and can make it interesting enough, but i cant stand stormcasts anymore as i cant stand space marine anymore. Horus heresy is even worse than aos fluff wise.
>>46932086
Thank you for summarizing my shit, I can't even sometimes.
And I feel the same way in how they have been overglorified. I get the need for a posterboy for the series but they went too hard too early with their story.
I just want to know what happened to my Dinos riding Dinos after the old world got gibbed.
Any companies sell third party bits to make pic related?
>>46932086
>Sigmar becomes weaker, because he uses his own strenght to power up the stormcast
Yep, Sigmar cannot keep ressing them forever.
>>46932042
>Not really. Only one annoying posters appear.
By "annoying" you mean people who dare to wrong think about AOS?
>No, your post was lacking and you didn't write it well. Step up your game.
You don't compete with those on a lesser league.
>then you are willing to read only battletomes and campaign books of AoS. These alone should give you more than a good grasp on the setting.
Which I did, however I have not read the novels.
>And you are objectively willfully ignorant because you admitted that you didn't read any AoS book or novel.
That isn't a case of objectivity, again using a word incorrectly.
>>46932086
>Order would spark rebellion against chaos, slowly ammassing and convincing the scattered races of the old world to fight togheter. Instead we get ONLY fucking sigmarines, as other races as side characters.
My problem with it is that I liked WHFB compared to 40k because it didn't have a bunch of superhumans leading them.
I really enjoyed the setting of peasants fighting with knights, who had no advantage over the grotesque horrors of chaos.
The unit designs are really fucking generic too.
Also the fucking prices.
>>46932086
why are they all dudes?
>>46932066
Yep.
>>46932032
I believe the explanation is that a stormcast loses a bit of themself whenever they die due to nagash's greed. So eventually there would be a point where nagash has taken so much form an individual stormcast that there isn't enough left to reforge
>>46932066
>From the maelstrom of a sundered world, the Eight Realms were born. The formless and the divine exploded into life.
>Strange, new worlds appeared in the firmament, each one gilded with spirits, gods and men. Noblest of the gods was Sigmar. For years beyond reckoning he illuminated the realms, wreathed in light and majesty as he carved out his reign. His strength was the power of thunder. His wisdom was infinite. Mortal and immortal alike kneeled before his lofty throne. Great empires rose and, for a while, treachery was banished. Sigmar claimed the land and sky as his own and ruled over a glorious age of myth.
>But cruelty is tenacious. As had been foreseen, the great alliance of gods and men tore itself apart. Myth and legend crumbled into Chaos. Darkness flooded the realms.
>Torture, slavery and fear replaced the glory that came before. Sigmar turned his back on the mortal kingdoms, disgusted by their fate. He fixed his gaze instead on the remains of the world he had lost long ago, brooding over its charred core, searching endlessly for a sign of hope. And then, in the dark heat of his rage, he caught a glimpse of something magnificent. He pictured a weapon born of the heavens. A beacon powerful enough to pierce the endless night. An army hewn from everything he had lost.
>Sigmar set his artisans to work and for long ages they toiled, striving to harness the power of the stars. As Sigmar’s great work neared completion, he turned back to the realms and saw that the dominion of Chaos was almost complete. The hour for vengeance had come. Finally, with lightning blazing across his brow, he stepped forth to unleash his creation.
>This is the Age of Sigmar
>>46932158
Apparently some are female, but Sigmar avoided -4 str by giving them all muscolos grandes. e.g. zero sexual dimorphism
>>46932211
Gat dam Conan looks like a grade-A Dad in that closeup
Mothafuckin' Barbarian bastard.
>>46932211
that is not as good as the 40k one
>>46932158
They aren't, they just all have the same armor cause the uniformity unnerves chaos worshippers
>>46932211
>supersoldiers fighting for human's rights against bad evil dictators
Wow, so prpgressive setting.
>>46932151
>By "annoying" you mean people who dare to wrong think about AOS?
Nope, only people who form opinions on ignorance and false information
>You don't compete with those on a lesser league.
More than a match for you
>Which I did, however I have not read the novels.
Extremely doubtful.
Considering your previous posts.
>That isn't a case of objectivity, again using a word incorrectly.
You are objectively ignorant.
>>46932278
It can be comical if they mentioned the star, which is named after Sigmar, and the realm which is named after Sigmar, and the troops which are named after Sigmar, which are forged out of the metal, named after Sigmar, from the moon named after Sigmar.
>>46930820
No, it is completely different.
That's why its not Warhammer Fantasy Battles 2: Age of Sigmar.
Its Warhammer: Age of Sigmar. It has as much to do with Fantasy as 40k does.
Report anyone who brings it up for being off-topic.
>>46932211
so it really is just gold dudes fighting red dudes
>>46932120
np m8. the big problem with Gw and stormcast is trying too hard to push them on people. They are not glorious if they are the only one fighting.
To make an hero you must make one who shine above a sea of peasants- but if you have only an ocean of heroes it gets boring.
New releases are sweet tho, the new orcs are GREAT. So far the only awful model have been the fyreslayers. thei infantry is just goddamn awful.
>I really enjoyed the setting of peasants fighting with knights, who had no advantage over the grotesque horrors of chaos.
totally legit. But its a different setting, so the fact that you don't like it its not a flaw per se. We agree tho that stormcasts should really be put aside for a whileAnd their design is boring, mostly because they wanted to go for the MARINE AT ALL COST and they have aLL THE SAME FUCKING ARMOUR even if they have different roles. i cant fucking see the shooting unit heavy armoured, i just cant). You still have peasants fighting if you want anyway. i would really like a decent supplement saying what's daily life in realms corrupted by chaos.
before >muh no lore
there has been some examples: a village where peoples fate was contested by chaos gods, tribes living in fear and costantly running fro khornites, llife in azyr...but something detailed would be great. Or, at least, some novella/book from a different point of view.
How could would it be a novella from the point of view of a survivor in the lands corrupted from chaos? Wich eventually gets saved from stormcasts and starts following them? you could make an interesting story even if it means to focus in on stormcasts again. But no, GW asks its writers to explicitly fellate golden warriors.
>>46932211
I hated this, it tries to emulate 40k and fails so hard. Aos is nice because its different. It fails HARD when it tries to do the 40k thing. i hope eventually gw realizes that.
>>46932323
You don't dare question Sigmar's naming convention. The previous council did and they were eye lazored to death.
Now the current council sits on a table that looks like a hammer.
>>46932316
>Nope, only people who form opinions on ignorance and false information
This is becoming circular.
As I stated earlier, my personal belief is that you determine anything which you disagree with as ignorant.
I encounter this a lot now a days, kids who are adults who never understood how to actually discuss and debate over things.
Everything has to be associated with themselves so the validity of their opinions or views can never be questioned.
>More than a match for you
Sure, bud.
>Extremely doubtful.
>Considering your previous posts.
Then you should read it again.
You know out all of this, you learned to greentext, at least you walked out of this learning something.
>You are objectively ignorant.
Again, that word is a poor fit.
It would be better to say, you are ignorant, as objectively is normally used to criticize art, or other opinions.
Not qualities of others.
Now that's two things you've learned today.
>>46932329
>Report anyone who brings it up for being off-topic.
>Report any wrong think to the ministry of love
>>46932381
>I hated this, it tries to emulate 40k and fails so hard. Aos is nice because its different. It fails HARD when it tries to do the 40k thing. i hope eventually gw realizes that.
AoS intro is about hope and rebellion against tyranny.
40K is you live in hell and things are going to get WORSE!
>>46932416
Exactly, its like early morning cartoon fantasy.
Also again the Sigmarines are fucking awful. The other stuff isn't too bad, I think its a little silly everyone gets their tabletop lizard.
>>46932416
I loved these bits from GA:O.
Sigmars portraied literally as some overpowered, egomaniac dick who lazers his own people. Its hesilarating, in the good way.
>>46932424
>This is becoming circular.
Only because you made it this way. And You didn't provide anything for me disagree with in the lore. I am just pointing out that you are not capable of forming informed opinions due to your lack of research.
>You know out all of this, you learned to greentext, at least you walked out of this learning something.
You are confusing me with the rule-anon again.
>Then you should read it again.
When I asked said you should read the AoS books you said why should I? You had no interest in buying them.
And then you were ignorant (a recurring theme with you) about the Pastebin links.
Now you magically read them all?
>poor fit.
Fits you.
From now and on, you are objectively ignorant anon. OIA for short.
>>46932546
He's not objectively ignorant he's aggressively ignorant
>>46932573
>aggressively ignorant
Is this the one calling for reporting anyone who dares wrongthink?
Or the one who said report for offtopic while at the same saying.
>theres a pastebin with all the shit you need already there for free you stupid fuck. Actually make an effort to read it. If you want to talk shit about it , go open one of the files and take a fucking gander then come shit on the General with something relevant to say than >hurrdurr its bad because I don't like it
Which technically against the rules.
Its cute you mention aggressive when I've been mild this whole time.
>>46932546
>Only because you made it this way.
Can you explain to who engaged the dialogue that lead to a loop?
>And You didn't provide anything for me disagree with in the lore. I am just pointing out that you are not capable of forming informed opinions due to your lack of research.
No you are deciding to put a requirement on having an opinion based on supplemental material.
>You are confusing me with the rule-anon again.
I'm pretty sure that was you, but who knows I could be wrong.
>When I asked said you should read the AoS books you said why should I? You had no interest in buying them.
Yeah the NOVELS.
I already stated that I read the armybooks, you interpreted incorrectly.
Which seems to be a recurring problem, which is why I'm guessing you either in high school or fresh out.
At least I hope.
>From now and on, you are objectively ignorant anon. OIA for short.
That was pretty weak, you have any other better material then coming up with nicknames for others?
Is this popular at your high school?
>‘The Hammer God misses his friend. He misses his brother. He misses fighting beside Gorkamorka and wishes to do so again, in the coming war,’ Zephacleas said. ‘He wishes that his warriors, and those of his brother, could march side-by-side, as we do now, to fight the Old Enemy.’
>‘Gorkamorka has been fighting them, hammer-boss,’ Gordrakk rumbled. ‘He’s been fighting them forever. But where is the Hammer God? Why has he not been fighting alongside Gorkamorka?’
>‘The Hammer God thought Gorkamorka didn’t want to fight beside him any more,’ Zephacleas said. ‘The Hammer God thought Gorkamorka had become his enemy.’
>Gordrakk laughed. ‘Yeah? So?’ He snorted and tapped the side of his head. ‘Hammer God never understood Gorkamorka, never saw. Gorkamorka wants to fight forever, but the Hammer God doesn’t. Hammer God wants to build walls and towers and castles... But what’s the point of that if you never knock them over?’ He snorted. ‘Even the Chaos-things don’t understand. They think the point is to kill everyone, but then who’d be there to fight? Nobody understands but Ironjawz, because we’re the smartest and the toughest.’
>Zephacleas stared at the orruk. Despite himself, he was beginning to comprehend how Gordrakk saw the world. For the orruks, there was no difference between an enemy and a friend. A friend was just an enemy you weren’t fighting at the moment, and an enemy was just a friend who was trying to kill you. He cocked his head, considering. Then, he said, ‘So? Why not show us?
-"Fury of Gork"
Sigmar and Gorkamorka....are brothers?
There's no point in arguing with people who are determined to hate AoS. They don't want to like it so they will find every reason not to like it.
>>46932329
literally the first sentence
>>46932211
>From the maelstrom of a sundered world,
>>46932829
Who are you talking to?
Anyway I never said I hated it, you perceive it that way because you want to view any criticism as an ATTACK ON AOS!!111
When its in actuality someone sharing their opinion.
Again I find this incredibly juvenile and unusual for adults to behave this way.
I pray you are still young and have time to fix some of the very flawed perspectives you have.
>>46932747
CAPRA DEMON A FUCKING SHIT
DELET THIS
>>46932949
hello?
>>46932829
There's no point in arguing with people's opinions on if they like something or not dingus
>>46932747
>Can you explain to who engaged the dialogue that lead to a loop?
I called you ignorant based on admission. You disagree and I have to show you how and then repeat.
>supplemental material.
Battletomes and campaign books are not supplemental
>I already stated that I read the armybooks
The AoS "armybooks"? You should have made it clear an used the correct terminology. They are called Battletomes.
If you read them (still doubt it), then I would consider your opinion informed. Though I expect that you would hit me with an asinine statement like "there is no stakes".
>That was pretty weak
Deal with it. That's your nickname now.
Is there no scan of Grand Alliance: Death yet?
>>46932966
You posted a picture of capra demon, a particularly annoying boss in dark souls to most players on their first run
you triggered the anon's ptsd
>>46932987
I have it and I can tell you that the rules can be found AoS app and that there isn't any worthwhile lore in it.
>>46932987
Yo tell me how to do it in a actual way that it'll come out good, I just bought the thing for the sake that it was like 8 bucks, so I don't give a fuck if the spine wears out or whatever.
>>46932979
>I called you ignorant based on admission. You disagree and I have to show you how and then repeat.
You haven't shown anything.
>Can you explain to who engaged the dialogue that lead to a loop?
Still waiting for an answer, but most likely you are reading the posts and realizing you did interpret my posts incorrectly and now trying to steer away from that.
>Battletomes and campaign books are not supplemental
If by battletomes you mean army books, and books needed to actually play the game, then yes I have read it.
>The AoS "armybooks"? You should have made it clear an used the correct terminology. >They are called Battletomes.
What's next I'm going to say Orcs and your going to correct me for not saying Orruks™
>Deal with it. That's your nickname now.
Sure, bud.
>>46933021
I was referring to DELETE THIS.
But, yeah Capra is a real bitch especially if you got stuck by the dogs.
The first time I fought him one of the dogs glitched on a pillar and was stuck.
I always enjoyed the thought of some hard ass demon just chilling with some undead dogs.
>>46933068
>If by battletomes you mean army books, and books needed to actually play the game, then yes I have read it.
Your poor usage of terminology led to the confusion. Army books are WHFB books. Battletome are AoS. Learn and next time make it clear, OIA.
>What's next I'm going to say Orcs and your going to correct me for not saying Orruks™
Yep.
>>46933157
Orruk is just a fancy term for Orc
>>46933157
totally not him but you are my new pep pop
>>46932786
Battle brothers.
>>46933157
Glad to see you are abandoning all the other points instead to bitch about terminology, ie, semantics.
Mental checkmate.
>>46933157
So how much do you get paid? To be honest I could get in on all this low level shilling.
>>46933204
There is no other points. The whole thing started because you did not use proper terminology and began with a confusing statement
"You mean purchase products from GW who have replaced a brand I enjoy which I'm not satisfied with its replacement?"
"The lore of WHFB was good without ever reading a book".
So what did you mean by this?
>>469332111.5 an hour. Plus free citadel paint, monthly
>>46933278
I don't habeeb it
>>46933239
>The lore of WHFB was good without ever reading a book
Because I meant book as in novel.
I already stated I read the army book several times, you just refused to accept the term instead of battletome.
How long have you been living with autism?
>>46933068
Dark souls is a good example of how good worlds stand on their own through aesthetic and tidbits of lore alone.
Age fails pretty roundly at that
The rules aren't even the problem it's the HE-SIGMAR AND THE MASTERS OF AZYR lore and looks. It's just awful and plastic as the models.
>>46931915
> I said I read the army books and other shit but not the novels
Assuming it was you, you literally said:
>The lore of WHFB was good without ever reading a book
Which heavily implies you didn't read ANYTHING, army books or rule books or novels, but liked the lore of WHFB anyway. How you could've developed an informed opinion on its lore without reading anything at all is beyond me.
It's absolutely and perfectly fine to dislike or even hate the lore that's been released for AoS, it's totally different from WHFB after all.
However, nothing you've said this entire time has given any indication that you've done anything at all to actually find out what the lore is, apart from maybe hearing other peoples' summations of what it is in a very cursory manner.
Please, for the sake of establishing that you've done your due diligence here, give us an example of a piece of lore from one of the battletomes or GA books (which you state you've read) that you disagree with, and you believe is a good representation of AoS lore as a whole.
>>46919465
I love the expression of the Nurgle head on Dorghar. He's just glad to be out and about.
You two, just stop. Its embarassing, both sides.
the lore of AoS is bad
Hello, /AoSG/, I'm trying to name my Stormhost, so which do you prefer?
The High Host
The Storm Saints
The Tempest Knights
The Stardust Crusaders
>>46933344
>Which heavily implies you didn't read ANYTHING, army books or rule books or novels, but liked the lore of WHFB anyway. How you could've developed an informed opinion on its lore without reading anything at all is beyond me.
Stated here in the beginning.
>>46930495
>What you interpret of shitposting is me expressing my frustrations of a game I have followed for longer then a decade, from me going over to friends house to specifically read his army books.
So I'll take the apology in the form of a letter.
>>46933368
No offense, but how new are you where discussion or debate is embarrassing?
Its kind of what this is site is about.
Sorry that you don't like it maybe just ignore it if you don't like it?
>>46933315
Then it's clearly your fault. I said books are in campaign books and battletomes. I even claified by saying BOOKS AND NOVELS. But for some reason you wanted to rant AoS novels so you went with it.
Was it hard to say from the start that you read the "army books" but didn't read the novels instead of going on a rant about being forced to buy something or whatever?
>I already stated I read the army book several times, you just refused to accept the term instead of battletome.
Because I thought you were talking about WHFB rulebooks which apparently you didn't need to read to know that WHFB was good.
>>46933408
the sky is blue
>>46933436
see
>>46933433
I already did.
You failed to read it.
>>46933428
The Hammer storms of high storm thunder peak
>>46933436
as in campaign*
>>46933436
>>46933344
Also here.
>>46931642
>I have never read more then the army books why should I read into lore that when reading army books doesn't interest me.
>>46933428
Stardust Crusaders nigga
nice stando
>>46933433
>o offense, but how new are you where discussion or debate is embarrassing?
I'll sum up whats happening:, saw from anyone else other than you two:
>AOS IS SHIT, LORE IS SHIT, ART IS SHIT, MODELS ARE SOULESS, EVERYTHING IS SOULESS, GAME IS RETARDED but hey, im not shitposting, ITS CRITICISM gee, you cant take criticism kids? grow up
and
>AOS IS GOOD, GET OUT, WE'LL BAN YOU, YOU CANT OFF TOPIC EVEN THO YOU ARE NOT, BAN BAN BAN, CALL EM BATTLETOMES YOU PEASANT, ITS ORRUKS NOT ORCS
Thats not discussing, thats just yelling flapping your arms like chicken wings. it its embarassing.
>>46933460
No, you failed to clarify in your initial reply post. The whole books and novels thing. It's still your fault,OIA.
I have no idea then why you assumed what I meant by books = novels.
>>46933468
But which of the four would you choose?
>>46933522
Thank you.
>>46933542
>Thats not discussing, thats just yelling flapping your arms like chicken wings. it its embarassing.
That's an excellent strawman.
Have you ever heard of the person who likes to insert themselves in an argument and find a way to find a high ground in order to put themselves on a pedestal?
If not, examine what you are doing and compare it to what I mentioned.
>>46933563
I think at this point I've proven you wrong enough.
If you want we can stop responding to each other because it seems discussion with you is pretty fruitless.
Also there were a lot of other things we discussed, you just backtracked and refocused on that because you ran into a corner with the other ones.
Just treat this as a learning experience.
>>46933428
>The Stardust Crusaders
Seras will not be happy. They will sue you.
Sigmar form his warriors from lightning light
Slaan form the Seras from Starlight.
It's not an appropriate name.
>>46933542
Basically this it's just reeeeeeeing opinions at someone with them reeeeeing back
>>46933428
Anon, if you can legit find a way to make the name "Stardust Crusaders" work, then I say to freaking go for it. I even have to ask how you would consider painting them?
That said, I like that name as well as the Storm Saints and Tempest Knights, though the latter sounds a lot like previous Stormhosts.
>>46933648
again I don't think that's the situation at all but if you wish to pretend it is, I won't stop you.
>>46933641
pic related
>>46933632
>I think at this point I've proven you wrong enough.
Only because you caused the whole thing to descend into confusion. I am just trying to unravel the whole mess you created
By the way, you didn't answer that other anons. What part of AoS lore that you "read" that you found disagreeable?
fack I meant >>46933656
in this>>46933681
>>46932853
>>From the maelstrom of a sundered world,
Do you have proof that it's the old world they are talking about?
Checkmate!
>>46933641
It's fine, they're both from space land.
>>46933656
>I even have to ask how you would consider painting them?
I'm thinking either copper with silver trim o storm grey with silver trim.
>though the latter sounds a lot like previous Stormhosts.
Yeah, they were originally going to be the Tempest Lords but Balance of Power kind of stole my thunderHuehuehue
>>46933673
another anon
yes, it is.
>>46933778
>It's fine, they're both from space land.
Correction, Sigmar is from spaceland.
Slaan are freeloaders who refuse to pay rent.
>>46933695
I dislike the originality with the Sigmarines.
They DO look a shitload like Astartes, their crossbows DO look a lot like bolters.
Their factions, or whatever the terminology is seem to be largely carbon copy of Space Marines chapters.
I dislike the lay out of the world, the maps are fucking horrendous and are no way comparable to the detailed maps that were present throughout WHFB.
The over the top Fantasy doesn't work well. I would be fine if the lore wasn't so ridiculous calling absolutely everything some for of sigmar is grating.
Slaneesh being basically removed is see through that they are trying to appeal to kids, especially in the U.S where violence is not as taboo as sex.
The Khorne faction is way to over the top, at least for me. Making everything reference GORE AND BLOOD is not creative or original.
Especially when there are a million other words that could be used instead of Gore and Blood.
Like holy shit pick up a thesaurus.
I could go on but I'll wait to see if you give a reasonable discussion instead of just stating my opinions are incorrect.
>>46933790
Again its not.
I have to ask how new you guys are if two faggots arguing about the subject of the general is something new?
This is literally a fucking norm on /tg/ do you think in the drow spider vagina thread there weren't faggots arguing like I am now?
It has gone on since ages long past, grow some thick skin and stop trying to pretend you are so much better for not getting involved in an argument on a board which has been a facilitator for exactly that.
But, I guess this is just what happens, the regulars get replaced by a new and a new standard forms, I just wish you guys spent some time actually acclimating here and learning the terms so they don't lose all the meaning.
>>46933837
Hot damn what in the sweet fuck is that there brick? Someone regale me with a tale of the lizard.
>>46933681
Damn, now your making me want Stormcast with Stands. I curse and thank you for giving me an idea I doubt I on my own would ever find a way to work.
>>46933778
Copper with a silver trim sounds like it would work. Though I admit that I'm now thinking up really crazy and flashy schemes. I wonder if it's possible to do a cosmic pattern on the Stormcast's pauldrons and shields.
>>46933939
>I wonder if it's possible to do a cosmic pattern on the Stormcast's pauldrons and shields
It is and it looks great.
Depending on how colourful you want it to be its pretty easy too.
>>46933939
I'm sorry. I would say being the dangus that I am that you should forego it all and make them stands. But do whatever you think reaches your ideal aesthetics
>>46933939
>I wonder if it's possible to do a cosmic pattern on the Stormcast's pauldrons and shields.
I had considered doing star fields but to be frank that sort of work is a little beyond my skills.
>>46933863
>Slaneesh being basically removed is see through that they are trying to appeal to kids, especially in the U.S where violence is not as taboo as sex.
Le sigh.
Slaanesh is not removed. She disappeared but his faction still exists and have broken up into four factions. The Pretenders who are trying to replace xir with Ur-Slaanesh, the Questers who are looking for their missing goddess, and the guys who don't give a fuck and just want to rape and party, and lastly those who are using Archaon as a placebo Slaanesh. I find the claim that they removed Slaanesh to make it more kid friendly stupid and it throws doubt about you reading the battletomes considering that Slaanesh forces featured as main antagonists in some events (Balance of Power and Seras book).
WTF is a person doing in AoS general if they hate it?
Nothing better to do with your time than shit on a game you don't even play?
>>46933985
>Le sigh.
Really? You want to reveal at this time I've been discussing something with a redditor this entire time?
No wonder you are so full of shit.
>Slaanesh is not removed. She disappeared but his faction still exists and have broken up into four factions.
I guarantee the lore will work out too Slaneesh being cut and replaced with a god of jealousy or something liter then the god of sex, degeneracy and excess.
>>46933991
Why are you passively aggressively commenting like a female when you know exactly you are referring too.
Also I never stated that I hate Aos, I'm just criticizing the aspects of it, sorry that comes off as hate but not everyone associates products emotionally like yourself.
>>46933991
Just ignore them.
People here take the bait to easily.
Instead talk about stuff you like.
>>46933985
Also I would like to point out I listed several other things, but you haven't discussed any of those.
Which reminds me of our previous argument where you continually dropped points I listed to focus on one solely.
Which again, makes me think you are less about discussion and just trying to find holes in any criticism.
Did you read the novels because you wanted a better understanding of the world or because you wanted to defend it from criticism?
>>46934054
Not everyone with an opinion you dislike is trolling.
Sometimes people have opinions that differ from your own.
Maybe one day when you develop and mature you will come to realize this.
Maybe not.
>>46933991
as >>46934054
said, don't take the bait, or you'll end up like that other guy.
Anyway, has anything new been leaked of the boxed Aos games? haven't checked in for a month or two, i remember rumors saying it'll be like a "new"heroquest.
>>46934028
>No wonder you are so full of shit.
I have called you on being full of shit here.
>I guarantee the lore will work out too Slaneesh being cut and replaced with a god of jealousy or something liter then the god of sex, degeneracy and excess.
You can see the future can you? I seriously doubt that.
Lets check the present.
Slaaneshi forces are just as lewd and rapey as they are before. In fact, the lore says that they are going far and beyond in their horrible deeds to attract the attention of their missing goddess.
There is no indication that Slaaneshi's are going anywhere or that they are making AoS kids friendly.
Here have some snake tits.
>>46934057
Because most of them are exactly what I said bitching at naming convention and superficial stuff but nothing for the deep lore.
>>46933977
I would assume that doing a starry field would be simple but trying to include the more colorful stuff like nebulas and planets might be more tricky, However it's certainly worth the shot,
>>46933980
I don't mind really, it's a silly and fun idea to play around with.
>you should forego it all and make them stands.
How would one do that exactly? Would using the same concept as the Seraphon being made of celestial magic work?
>>46933981
I once saw a Youtube video that showed how to go about painting a simple cosmic patterns on the bases, sadly I can't find the video myself. Though there are other videos that help with painting simple cosmo designs and patterns.
>>46934133
>I would assume that doing a starry field would be simple but trying to include the more colorful stuff like nebulas and planets might be more tricky, However it's certainly worth the shot,
In the end it all depends on your skill level. For nebulas and stuff its just thin, irregular purple/blue glazes applied a lot of times.
>>46934082
If I was really trying to shit on this game, I would be responding to everyone trying to get as must of reaction as possible.
Instead I'm being relatively calm and trying to fairly discuss AoS, discussing something doesn't always mean praise.
>>46934092
>I have called you on being full of shit here.
I think it could of been you, but who knows.
>You can see the future can you? I seriously doubt that.
No but I can make predictions based on the current situation.
Clearly GW doesn't really care for established lore or consistency but profits.
This has even been said directly by GW during a meeting with a stock analyst.
>Slaaneshi forces are just as lewd and rapey as they are before. In fact, the lore says that they are going far and beyond in their horrible deeds to attract the attention of their missing goddess.
Have the released new models regarding Slaneesh?
Until then I'll stick to what I believe.
Still I've mentioned several things and here we are still focusing on Slaneesh.
>>46934116
No its all still valid, just because you think it isn't doesn't mean it's not
The designs of the Sigmarines effect heavily the setting and theme.
Everything has an effect.
Character and monster designers in table top and video games communicate with the writers to make everything fit.
Also as far as the table top goes Sigmarines seem incredibly generic and suffer horrendously from monopose.
>>46934172
Got it, thanks for the tips anon. I just hope I have a steady enough hand to try the more complicated stuff, but if it works out then I'm sure it'll come out quite cool looking.
Stop replying to shitposters, all they want is your attention
>>46934226
What is with this mentality?
No, anon, not everyone who has a differing opinion is shitposting.
Actually by definition you are shitposting, you are actively asking for any discussion to stop and for it to return to a circle jerk which is the antithesis of discussion.
>>46934176
>No but I can make predictions based on the current situation.
Which has Slaaneshi characters taking part of the storyline?
>Until then I'll stick to what I believe.
What you believe what actual have are two different things. You claiming that AoS is going kids friendly is asinine Utterly baseless.
The rest of your stuff is option based. I find Stormcast fine and the Bloodbound excellent by far my favorite faction.
>>46923514
Gutter runners *squeak*
>>46934320
If anyone brings up the Slaanesh thing again, feel free to post this.
>>46934215
Np. If its only the pauldrons shouldnt be too hard, the flat surface is great for these kind of things. the ide is starting with a black and adding super thinne dlayers of blue and purple(feel free to add pinks and greys and whatever tingles you jizzles for extra colour). they should be almost invisible at first and they don't jneed to be perfect. you want to be irregular and pretty large at first, and then youll reduce the area covered wich every layer, in the end focusing only in the main area where the nebula is.
(sorry for the bad writing but its 6 am and im at the end of an awful night shift lol)
Any speculation what the next campaign book will be about or what do you want it to be about? Aelves maybe?
>>46934293
>Which has Slaaneshi characters taking part of the storyline?
Again I'll wait for the models.
Its one thing to bring her up in lore and in books.
I am discussing light censorship to make AoS appeal to a younger crowd.
Many times there are themes of sex in the background, however its another to make units at the forefront with sexual themes.
>What you believe what actual have are two different things. You claiming that AoS is going kids friendly is asinine Utterly baseless.
Well I'm entirely open to being wrong, and I hope that I'm wrong.
I'm mostly trying to figure out why my cynicism upsets you especially with GWs track record.
>The rest of your stuff is option based. I find Stormcast fine and the Bloodbound excellent by far my favorite faction.
That is your opinion however I think it begs you defend why they are so likeable.
They seem very generic across all units many only differing in slight details and weapons.
I find the Dracoath exceptionally boring.
I'm getting the feeling many of the people here are pretty young.
You pick and choose which topics to debate.
You have this us vs them mentality to the point where criticism makes you lump them in a group which you generalize by any dissenting opinions.
You whine and bitch about rules while at the same time ignoring the rules in the first place.
What's even odder is that you then seem to think all of the rules apply in the first place which begs the question of how long you have been here in the first place.
Which adds into the frequent "trolling" "shitposting" being posts with a differing opinion.
I see this shit with the younger generation, any criticism on politics or celebrities is "hating" or "trolling" when its just criticism.
I'm open to being wrong but so far there hasn't been much of an argument for it.
Other then
>>46934347
Posted which means that Slaneesh may be in after all.
Its sad it took this fucking long to get to this point because you are so fucking defensive of the game.
>>46934400
It's all good and thanks a bunch for the tips. This is certainly gonna be a fun paint job to try out.
>>46934347
>>46934320
>>46934303
>>46934293
All except one of those is shit
>>46933751
Nagash and Sigmar are there
>>46934479
Which one? The one with Daemon butt?
>>46934501
The one that looks like it was actually drawn.
>>46934293
>>46933985
this is so stupid. why did AoS divide eveything into a million smaller groups? Instead of Skaven there's half a dozen different rat clans. It's confusing and dumb
>>46934535
Some people think convoluted story is a good story.
>>46934493
They don't look like the same people to me.
Different persons more like.
>>46934535
>why did AoS divide eveything into a million smaller groups
They are smaller but definitely not"million", what is wrong?
>>46934535
>>46934561
No and no. Aos works on subfactions because now synergy is the most important value. You have thematic factions that works well within each other.
Almost every unit buffs-or gets bonuses when near an hero or another unit of its own sub faction. It kinda pushes for thematic armies, because yes, you can take the stronger units from every chaos god, but they will not perform as well as with their own kind.
>>46934535
Chaos always have had warbands with different methods and philosophies. Skaven also have always had clans and off-shoot clans.
AoS streamlined things by making blanket terms for Clans and warbands that follow the general methodology/philosophy. What that means? more content for all.
>>46934579
dude, they turned one thing, Skaven, into Masterclan, The Clans Skyre, The Clans Moulder, The Clans Pestilens, The Clans Verminus, and The Clans Eshin.
It used to be simple, Skaven are rat people. Now there's six different minor variations of rat people, and since you can mix and match all you like, it doesn't actually matter at all.
It's a completely unnecessary level of obfuscation and confusion, it gets between the consumer and buying a cool rat people army, because first they need to figure out if they're allowed to have a Plague Furnace and a Skaven Assassin in the same army. Oh, it turns out the answer is yes. So why are they listed in two different sections of the website? who fucking knows!
>>46934712
You have never read old army books, did ya? All those clans existed even in their earlier incarnations...
>>46934735
they were all Skaven. It was all listed under Skaven. Oncce you bought the Skaven book and decided to build a Skaven army, then you could decided to get all fluffy and stick with a clan or just get a bunch of Skaven stuff. Now you're presented with six different armies, and their relationship to each other isn't made clear at all
>>46934712
Pretty sure that all the Skaven clan units have the Chaos and Skaven keyword on their warscrolls. Anyone who read them would know that they are fieldable together.
>>46934796
they're all fieldable together because there's no limits on army construction in Age of Sigmar
>>46934791
they still ARE skaven. Its listed in their warcsrolls on their fucking keywords.
In whfb you had to buy the book if you wanted to play with them, and dividing the book in 6 supplements would have been stupid. Now the rules are for free on a pdf. The division in clans actually makes it easier to build an army.
>>46934791
>their relationship to each other isn't made clear at all
You got the point, new player know no lore, unless they pay for the GA: C book.
>>46934842
You can play Order units with Chaos?
>>46934854
oh yeah, I'm gonna build a The Clans Eshin army. Oh look, I can take four different types of little rat dudes. No monsters or vehicles or anything. By thoughtfully dividing The Clans Eshin from the rest of the Skaven, gw has shown that The Clans Eshin sucks.
>>46934931
Yes. Those restrictions only have shown up from House Rules.
You probably should have some justification though.
>>46934969
GW should really make an alliance matrix for this game.
>>46934969
>You probably should have some justification though.
Why?
>>46934968
>Clans Eshin
They are sellsword, not a all round army.
>>46935049
>Let me mix my sigmarines
>With some Khorne!
>This is legit
I don't know; it seems stupid as fuck. Those two for instance probably would never ally unless something drastic and battle specific was happening.
I think someone mentioned they mix dwarves and ogres with the ogres being mercenaries. That seems okay to me.
If your opponent doesn't mind though... who gives a shit. This is kind of a play how you want to play system.
Okay so I still need to track down a bits seller to get the spider parts...
what do you all think of this for the torso and head?
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/bones%20giant/latest/77162
>>46934968
You are not forced to field enshin only.
but now you have different clans comfortable divided by faction. is that too hard?
Before we had Chaos. then it got divided into chaos daemons and warriors of chaos. Now we have followers of chaos gods divided both by their own patron and mortality. It looks strange at first glance when you are used to a single book but works like a charm, even more so because now sub faction unitsgets insanely buff with each other(aka good luck on using that chaos warshrine on anything else than Mortal chaos units).
>>46934993
Why? you can take order units with chaos, but they will work pretty bad. Your general will give shitty buffs and your units will not work at their best.
>>46935175
there was an anon who converted ogres with storcastish armour. It was an amazing conversion and i would love to see more armies like this.
I, myself have converted orcs to Nurgle and i plan on doing the same with an aracknarok spider too.
Point is, this kind of thing works only for fluff and for fun: competitevely it sucks, my orks have no buffs, epidemius doesn't work on them and my plague lord and blightkings farts kill them as they kill my opponents.
its a good system imho because it doesn't force you to do anything(the famous-field what you want), but it pushes you on the right comps anyway.
>>46935242
It sounds like you found a justification for what you're doing, rather than smashing together opposed factions. Nurgle orc conversions sounds neat. Hope to see it on WIP or here someday.
Competitive is probably going to be something different. Curious what GW is doing on that front.
>>46935175
>never ally unless something drastic and battle specific was happening.
Hire Queen and Ionus Cryptborn allied, to fight against Skarbrand.
>>46935290
No, they didn't.
Skarbrand was her ally. She just told Ionus that Sigmar's magic are weak will be not enough to purge the Nurglite sickness. Only the rage of Skarbrand would be enough.
New thread
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>>46934436
It'll be about destruction. After that we'll probably get one to coincide with the new game modes.
