So how long until we start getting Eldritch Moon spoilers?
start speculating on what the emrakul does now
>>46867534
Horrors. Most stuff like Scourge Wolf, mutated and totally fucked up. Also Lilliana being a glorious bitch.
>>46867534
Emrakul, the Non-Playtested
10CCC
Legendary Creature - Eldrazi Rapist
Flash, flying, trample
When Emrakul, the Non-Playtested enters the battlefield, take an extra turn after this one.
Whenever Emrakul, the Non-Playtested attacks, exile all lands defending player controls.
At the beginning of each upkeep, if a player owns twenty or more lands in exile, you win the game.
15/15
>>46867747
i know you're not serious but wizards doesn't do land-d, or annihilator so this seems unlikely.
>>46867534
>>46867632
Well, from what's we've seen Emrakul's presence is corrupting the hell out of stuff. Look at Scourge Wolf, or Might Beyond Reason. Or a whole bunch of other cards. Emrakul should do some sort of corrupter, maybe something like old Olivia with her ability to turn stuff into vampires, but minus the wait to take control.
>>46870235
My personal guess is that Nahiri is attracting Emmy to innistrad so she can seal it there, give Sorin a taste of what it was like for her to have her home plane in the position of being the first to go if the seal broke.
>>46870756
Oh this 100% correct. I can't believe I didn't see this before... it makes so much sense.
>>46867534
>mfw marit lage is the true bbeg of Eldritch Moon
My waifu is the best waifu
>>46867534
>Emrakul
>not Marit Lage
>>46867534
You can sacrifice 15 clues instead of paying Emrakul the Planefucker's manacost.
>>46874744
>>46874790
as much as i would love it, my inside sources tell me otherwise
tfw return to theros
>>46867747
Needs more rape.
>>46874744
Is Marit Lage in the set? When was this?
>>46874964
Never. Not even for Elspeth.
I really hope this set has some good zombies. Zombies need a 2 drop real bad.
>>46874822
Does your dad work for Wizards?
>>46875836
friends of mine were commissioned to do an employee video for WOTC about eldritch moon
I hope soon.
Also due to Pro Tour Madrid Top 8, people are saying "diverse" meta.
No, you're still going to run into Bant CoCo and W/x Humans 70% of the time
Maro already confirmed it wasn't Marit, incidentally.
>>46875929
How do?
>>46875942
Fucking autocorrect.
How so?
>>46876077
You're only going to get vague and cryptic responses. Kids today have too much of a hardon for eldrazi to consider anything else. There is even less evidence that it's emrakul than if it were marit lage, yet everyone is leaning toward emmy. /tg/ is typically always wrong about everything, so let's see how it plays out.
>>46876143
>Kids today have too much of ahedronfor eldrazi
It's obviously not going to be Emrakul or Marit Lage. I honestly can't think that it'll be anything we've seen before so sounds like they're going to be introducing a new villain to the multiverse.
There are actually various clues as to what it might be scattered throughout the cards. Off the top of my head:
- Confront the Unknown shows an Inquisitor fighting another human with tentacles coming out of his face that do not look like Eldrazi style tentacles
- Daring Sleuth and Thraben Inspector both show strange growths on buildings
- Several cards point towards a Sea/Ocean basis to the threat, such as in Engulf the Shore, Epiphany at the Drownyard, Trail of Evidence and Drownyard Temple
- The Cryptoliths are clearly linked to whatever is coming, and they seem too uniform and Euclidean to be related to Emrakul
Initially I had thought that there would be something trapped in Innistrad's moon. It was stated before that the Helvault was a piece of the moon, so it's highly possible the moon can work as a prison in the same way. But the flavour text on Engulf the Shore seems to contradict that. That would seem to suggest that it's something that has been sleeping at the bottom of the ocean, which fits with the name and heavy Cthulhu-esque vibes the set names have been giving off.
>>46875861
Do tell.
What if Nahiri is trying to lure Emracool but she ends up actually attracting a new Eldrazi Titan?
>>46878173
Than she managed to fuck up even harder than Ugin could predict or mitigate.
>>46878192
That would be fairly funny. She thinks she's geting Emra, but instead some random ass Eldrazi Titan comes barging in and TPK Innistrad (and all the planeswalkers on the plane as well).
>>46878244
I want this now.
>>46878192
>>46878244
That would be cool, some fresh air to refresh the Eldrazi Titan narrstive
>>46878173
>slav eldrazi
>>46878244
I'd totally be up for a new Eldrazi Titan, as long as it isn't killed in a completely anti-climatic way like last time.
>>46876403
>doesn't know about the hidden message in the clue tokens
Keep telling to yourself is not Emrakul, you may actually believe it one day.
>>46878302
Yes, I was not a fan that they killed both Ulamog and Kozilek so quickly. Instead, this new Eldrazi Titan should be like a cockroach. Not even a god dam nuke (or a group of simple minded neo-walkers jerking each other off) is going to stop it.
>>46878173
>>46878274
>>46878357
>Nahiri manages to attract a Titan
>but it's not Emmy
>it's a small-ish, young Titan
>extremely dangerous, but it can be fairly easy to bind it with magic
>Tamiyo wants to capture and learn about it
>Nahiri wants it to waste Innistrad
>Sorin wants to kill it
>What will Jace and his friends do?
That would be interesting
Not OP, but for reals, how many weeks before release do they normally do spoilers for stuff? How long must I wait for new cards?
>>46878434
I'd say in a month or so, maybe earlier if we get our hands on some leaks
>>46878970
Also, sometimes they would spoiler a couple things at the pro tour.
>>46878420
They Save the Day™, obviously.
>Everybody talking about Emrakul.
>Liliana is literally on the box art.
Guys...
>>46867534
Emrakul, the Corrupter
10
Legendary Creature - Eldrazi [MR]
At the beginning of each end step, put a corruption counter on ~, then gain control of target creature with toughness less than the number of corruption counters on ~.
~ can't attack unless it has more corruption counters on it than defending player's life total.
15/15
>>46867747
The original Emrakul is much better. You fail at hyperbole.
Werewolf Legendary pls.
>>46881578
Everybody knows Liliana is not the main antagonist, she's just kind of shady and a bit of a slut, but not plane-destroying levels of evil.
>>46884176
Arlinn took its spot.
>>46881757
Make it indestructible and you'll have the right amount of bullshit.
>>46884176
Tovalar up in this motherfucker!
>>46878420
This is Sorins set, they made him off his daughter so hes not gonna be putting any brakes on the rape train. The Jacestice league will back down and let Sorin take names.
>>46867534
Emrakul, The Envoy Broken Dreams
15
Legendary Creature - Eldrazi Avatar
Indestructible, Hexproof, Flying, Trample
When Emrakul, Envoy of Broken Dreams enters the battlefield, target opponent exiles the top 10 cards of their library. You may cast any non-land exiled this way without paying its mana cost at any time you would activate a sorcery.
At the beginning of your endstep, sacrifice each land you control and put a 1/1 eldrazi scion token on the battlefield.
>>46884243
I reckon it'll be two ww legends, Tovolar and Ulrich, since the other alphas of the ww packs are made (albeit not legend form)
>>46867534
New Emmy flips from an enchantment and will be largely unplayable. You heard it here first boys.
>>46878420
>an old bitch makes zombies and somehow comes out on top again
we all know what going to happen oni-chan
>>46867534
I'm thinking emrakul will be a transforming card.
Either she transforms into or out of the "Eldritch Moon" as a sort of a way of portraying Emrakul being Sealed or bursting into innistrad from its moon.
Also that way Emrakul can be colorless in a set with no colorless mana. She shows up on the reverse face of a transforming card with "no Color"
>>46876143
There was the flavortext about "They come in three," and the obvious fact that where there are Eldrazi, Emmy shows up.I want Marit Lage more, though.
>>46870756
There was no need for her kill everyone there beforehand, though.
>>46875274
Relentless Dead?
>>46885965
Avacyn needs to go before she can dump Emrakul onto the place and trap the bitch.
And a shitton of people died when the Eldrazi were first sealed on Zendikar anyways.
Okay, so I know you all love Emmy and Marit, but Emmy is really obviousand almost certainly in the setand Marit doesn't fit the clues that well. I think we'll have Emmy, and maybe Marit, but WotC is trying to hint at something incredible here, like >>46876403 said. I can't wait to see what it is.
>>46886085
>Sorin doesn't have the ability to bond with a plane like NIssa and Nahiri
>Zendikar was only cranky because of the Eldrazi, what will the temperament of a plane that's already wildly hostile to everything be?
>Sorin's entire shtick is combat and couldn't contain an Eldrazi to save his life
>The plane's official guardian was driven mad and killed, depriving anyone who would keep someone from Naturalizing ancient insanity boxes
We haven't seen the entirety of Nahiri's plan but it seems hella retarded.
>>46886215
She was stuck in a rock with an ever increasing number of demons for over a thousand years.
Her plan isn't sane.
>>46877729
He's clearly lying
Rumor has it.....
>>46887982
>13
>not 10<><><>
>>46888023
Hey man. I'm just passing along infromation.
>>46886377
Are we talking Nahiri or Avacyn now?
>>46887982
Cool flavor text but obviously fake.
>>46887004
Why would someone lie on the internet?
>>46888127
There's a theory that Nahiri was the first thing sealed in the Helvault but I'm not buying it. He would have been a lot more concerned about it after pushing Tibalt's shit in.
>>46888989
Nobody cares about Tibalt, not Sorin and certainly not WotC.
>>46878274
Tom Cruise?
>>46888023
C was specifically stated to be Kozilek's thing only.
>>46888989
The Uncharted Realms with Nahiri showing up on Innistrad all but says it - it ends a few moments before actually shoving her in it.
>>46876403
Maybe it's going to be something in the eldrazi ecosystem and Ugin will be able to say "I told you so."
>>46867534
Is it confirmed to be Emmy?
>NYA-HA!
>YOU FOOLISH FOOLS!
>IT WAS NOT MARIT LAGE, OR EMRAKUL
>IT WAS I, TIBALT, ALL ALONG
>YOU THOUGHT I COULD NOT BE SUBTLE, BUT I COULD BE!
>AND NOW THAT YOU HAVE FAILED TO FIGURE OUT THAT IT WAS ME, I'M GOING TO UNLEASH MY MASTER PLAN!
>I'm going
>TO THROW THE MOON AT INNISTRAD
>ISN'T THAT HORROR-INDUCING AND CREEPY AND SUBTLE?
>>46890379
wat chu say to me
>>46877729
they werent able to tell me much do to a NDA, but i was able to get a few things outta them
it wasnt about mechanics in any way
it involved some kind of promotional items
it involved some kind of game day like event
and due to them being terrible liars, i was able to get that some kind of eldrazi is involved
>>46889755
So it doesn't at all and that's what we infer?
>>46891105
It's what we are supposed to infer, yes, because the next story is back to Present Time stuff, so unless they are intentionally pulling a fast one on us that is what happened.
the "Eldritich Moon" is another thing than the Innistrad Moon,as told to us in the Uncharted Realms.
Nahiri is pulling something moon-sized into very, very low orbit just above the Drownyard, this object jace describes as a "Nothingness" is filled with Lattice, it also fucked his mind up.
it is very clearly going to be Emrakul, but not just that, the WHOLE of Emrakul, not just her avatar.
How much longer until this stupid mythos shit leaves MtG?
>>46891781
>How much longer until stupid shit leaves MtG?
haha
>>46891781
Hopefully no more Eldrazi after this. Hopefully.
>>46891232
I really hope they are. No one would be retarded enough to okay more Eldrazi after BfZ.
>>46875242
They still built up the Dack Fayden/Ashiok shit, so I bet they gonna return there one day
>>46890379
>>46878297
fucking lol
>>46887982
In case anyone actually thought it was real:
http://lovecraft.wikia.com/wiki/File:Azathoth_(1).jpg?useskin=oasis
>>46893605
I would hope nobody thought it was real.
>Nahiri opens a gate to New Phyrexia.
>They barely manage to destroy the gateway.
>Sometime in a supplemental set, Steady Progress is reprinted but with art placing it on Innistrad.
>>46890722
i've seen a lot of people lie on the internet
this i'm not sure on. it paints a very believable picture. believable in that it's so banal. the secrets you are giving us are also the least exciting and least interesting possible. which really only strengthens the believability. good stuff.
>>46895955
If we never see New Phyrexia again it'll be too soon.
>>46896054
honestly wizards has given themselves a lot of bad guys to play around with
i wouldn't be surprised if we have a set in the very near future where we have eldrazi vs phyrexia vs bolas.
the protagonists would be in a situation where they have to side with bolas to seal the eldrazi and phyrexians away in a containment plane where they will fight for eternity.
classic godzilla shit. godzilla is the bad guy until ghidorah shows up and then suddenly he is the good guy.
>>46896113
I think I remember Maro saying that Phyrexia and Eldrazi are their own stories, and that Phyrexia vs Eldrazi will never happen. That's one thing on which I agree with him.
They came as three.
Not realizing the misdirection here are you retards?
Naturlize esque card with phyrexian symbol.
Bounce spell with marit leige esque Leviathan.
All the eldrazi tentacles.
They're playing you all like a damn fiddle. It's going to be something new.
>>46896176
I would love something new and different. But I highly doubt it. At the least if it's Eldrazi then that'll end it, and we'll never have to deal with it again.
>>46896223
i dunno man. emrakul could just eat the plane. wizards sort of likes letting the bad guy win.
>>46896054
What about original Phyrexia? I guess they'd be too strong now and kick everyone's shit in.
I really hope it's something new. Eldrazi are getting old, especially the big three.
>>46896435
Why would we ever see them again? They dead or fractured beyond repair.
>>46893605
who the fuck would be stupid enough to think that was real?
>>46896054
What's the matter? You don't want Infect to make a comeback?
>>46899029
Time fuckery.
>>46875861
So, investigate probably won't make the cut since it is a filler, fixing mechanic for limited and the mystery will likely have been solved by that point. Which is sad, because I love that mechanic.
Madness is almost 100% in, Delirium is likely still in. Transform is definitely still in.
What other mechanics do you want to see?
>>46899374
Not that anon, but I actually like infect. Not in a I have an infect deck and you don't, but we both have infect decks and who's going to kill who first the fastest.
>>46896231
>they line letting the badguys win
Literally made up bullshit so two nu-walkers were able to kill two unkillable cosmic titans so they could have the jacetice league save the day.
>>46882588
Bullshit. Original only got you the extra turn on cast, this one's is an ETB effect *and* stays in your graveyard so you can reanimate it.
>>46904381
Without protection from colored spells, he dies to instant speed removal, making it an overcosted time walk or piss poor removal bait.
Sure, you win if it swings, but that's true of old Emmy too. At least Grissy does something if he gets swords'd.
The bad guy is clearly the Chain Veil
>>46899374
I don't like Phyrexia, new or old. They are too unstoppable and require practically a dues ex machina to defeat. That's not to say I like it when it swings the other way around and we get the Oathvengers destroying the Eldrazi by burning them up with fire either.
What legendary creatures are you waiting for? And what do you want them to do?
>>46907036
New Thalia making your creatures cheaper and the oppenent's non-creatures more expensive.
An improved version of the Wonder Twins. Not sure what they could do though, they're pretty decent already.
>>46907850
>Thalia but good
noicewait, when a card says "X costs 1 less to cast", does the 1 mean only generic costs? Like if I cast a spell that would normally cost W, would that 1 less to cast clause make it free?
>>46908427
It only applies to generic costs. 1W becomes W. WW becomes WW.
>>46908427
>wait, when a card says "X costs 1 less to cast", does the 1 mean only generic costs?
Usually yes. Read the ruling for Edgewalker for how things usually work.
>>46907036
Naya Tamanoa General. It can be CMC 6 or whatever, as long as it still counts enchantments, artifacts and Planeswalkers.
Oh. This is a SOI thread, not EDH. Uhh... Ludevic.
