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Massive, miffed, and comin to kick ya teef edition
Only a few kit go into "Last Chance to Buy" section, let's take a look...
>Ogre Kingdoms Battalion
Solid starter force, grab one if you can.
>Greasus Goldtooth
Gone for good, such hideous pile of... fat.
>Ork Warboss on Wyvern
Not a loss, since the !not Azhag stay.
>Ruglud's Armoured Orcs
Nice and unique regiment, grab one if you can.
>Gorbad Ironclaw
NOOOOOO!!! FUCK YOU GW!!! YOU DARE TO REMOVE GORBAD!!! CURSE YOU!!!
>Whirling Death
Not familiar with gobbo, no comments.
- Animosity Orcs
Nice addition for scenery, grab one if you can.
>Black Orc Big Boss
Nothing special nor unique.
>Grimgor Ironhide
Nothing special nor unique.
>Wolves
I think everyone buy the Fenrisian Wolves instead?
>The Chase
Not familiar with gobbo, no comments.
Order and Death culled a lot, but most Chaos and Destruction kits stay.Gorbad Ironclaw
NOOOOOO!!! FUCK YOU GW!!! YOU DARE TO REMOVE GORBAD!!! CURSE YOU!!!
Orruk life best life.
>>46852473
>orc
>not using red armor
red unz go fasta
Orruk look damn nice on round bases.
>>46852454
>Black Orc Big Boss
Nothing special nor unique.
>Grimgor Ironhide
Nothing special nor unique.
Better than the god awful 'ironjawz' they are being replaced with.
Its like GW thinks the key to success is releasing even more overpriced shit and discontinuing things people actually like.
>>46852529
im converting my whole armt to rounds, i think they look great. plus its daemons so i'll use them in 40k too
at first I thought they looked like shitty orc marines.
I'm glad I was wrong when I got a closer look
>>46852558
That black armour is what I'd go for if I ever get some. Have a vague plan of one day making a night goblin spider riders army, and those orcs could add some much needed infantry muscle. The black armour would go well with night gobbo robes.
>>46852558
I am baffled that GW went with the yellow armor. This scheme is so much better.
>>46852676
It's on purpose, I think. In the stories, the Stormcast and human character comment that the Orruks armour is painted with an "ugly" yellow.
>>46852701
Yeah, okay, but they still want to sell models, I assume. Those yellow models look like shit and utterly failed to make me want to buy them, Maw-Krusha aside. The black and red versions do.
>listen to the new audiobook
>Nagash is still considered to be one of the great deities of Order
But he is from the Death faction!
>>46852801
Death, Destruction and Order are all just political differences rather than cosmological ones.
>>46852758
Dis git gonna get krumped by dah bad moons fer shur
>>46852845
yellow looks good on orcs as long as its weathered down and dirty.
bright clean yellow looks terrible on orcs
>>46852544
If people "like" something and never ever buy them then nobody cares.
If they sold they would still be available
>>46852558
if they would could have discontinued the horribly proportioned black orcs. that's literally the only unit in the army with those god awful design. They could have redone them the Ironjaws way.
head coming from the middle of the chest and what look to basically account for 30% of bodymass and god awful short legs. Imagine then running on a battlefield.
>still available
>still in metal
>30 years old
not bad looking but I would have preferred some helmets
>>46852854
This, the tonka toys yellow orks need to go.
Doesn't help that the new models are fucking atrocious.
>>46853108
>still better than any Age of Sigmar model
>Others are rare and talented generals, at least by orruk standards, and have discovered that if they hold both their hands next to each other, they can get to ten. Rumours tell of mysterious barefoot orruks that can count even higher, but most Ironjawz don’t believe such fantastical tales.
And that's why some of them don't have shoes.
>>46853200
B-but Age of Sigmar takes itself seriously all the time.
>>46852454
>>46852473
dat neck tho
>Listen to the new audiobook
>Stormcast find two Orruk tribes that has been fighting nonstop since the End Times
>their warbosses are literally mountain sized
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXzEcwYs8Eo
>>46852454
>>Grimgor Ironhide
>Nothing special nor unique.
You're a faggot
>Nothing special nor unique.
Woah yeah they're definitely nothing like the paragons of originality that are the SigStormThunderHammerOrderCastMarines.
>Those prices
Holly fucking shit, do they really expect us to buy a Warboss the price of a fucking regiment ?
>>46853242
We should tell /fit/. Them's some good gains.
>>46853251
Grimgor was just Khorne the Orc.
>>46853281
Blame that on their designer
>>46853300
Those aren't very original.
>>46853281
Stormcast are more original than some generic Orc in armour.
>>46853417
kek
remove sigmarines
>>46852454
>>Grimgor Ironhide
>Nothing special nor unique.
>>46853281
AoS shills have no fucking self-awareness. Age of Sigmar general has become a parody of itself.
>Orruks recognize the authority of Sigmar in his aspect of the Barbarian
>Sigmar hoped to unite the Gorkian and Morkian Greenskinz once again and use them as a weapon against Chaos
Nagash was right in calling Sigmar a filthy savage. He is so much of a savage that the Orruks see him as one of their own!
>>46853141
Lets not be retarded to make a point here.
>>46853200
Is there some foot fetishist on the GW sculpting team? Some of the Empire soldiers aren't wearing shoes either(and it pisses me off).
>>46853242
any chance of sharing with us?
"I just read the sample of the new realmgate wars book. It describes ravens changing into warriors in black scale mail and robes with feather cloaks and bird Masks. The sorceress wears crystal armour. All the races are converging on the howling labyrinth to look for a special sword. I still have no idea if this is actually connected to the upcoming game, but it sounds intriguing."
Whineseer
>>46854567
>The sorceress wears crystal armour
Let it be see-through crystal bra and panties with a silken cloak for her modesty.
>>46854567
Sounds pretty elfish. If true also means likely new models.
>>46854599
Black mail bird warriors. Can't wait.
>>46852454
>>Black Orc Big Boss
>Nothing special nor unique.
>>Grimgor Ironhide
>Nothing special nor unique.
>>46854590
I think you'd have to go full savant to paint transperant armor sucessfully.. Love to see it done though.
>>46854599
I heard rumors of bird beastmen.
>>46854560
Maybe.
On Sunday or monday
only thing that bothers me is the neck plate
>>46855434
they seriously need atleast something on their backs. even shirt would be fine buy this just looks stupid
>>46855667
I dunno. I like staring at bare muscles. Especially chest and back muscles as well as the abs. It's one of reasons why I like the Bloodbound so much.
So much intoxicating masculinity.
>>46855700
uh huh...
>>46855700
Orcs have no pee pee, sorry to ruin it
>>46855792
Well yeh.
AoS might actually be a worthwhile game, as soon as we get out of this awkward transitioning phase and just have the Sigmar crazyness
>>46855814
Actually, Orcs often take about "dangly parts"/"Hurty bits" that are between their legs.
>>46855792
>thinks showing muscles is gay
bet your one of this insecure people that never goes to the beach
>>46855861
>showing
>staring at
lrn2read
>>46854709
>>46854010
>>46853281
>>46853251
>>46852544
OP here
Gorbad Ironclaw>Grimgor and Ironjawz
FUCK YOU!!! GW!!!
>>46854567
Tzeentch Birdman
>>46855856
>often
any source?
Aaaaand it's all gone.
Glad Azhag is still 'around' - but now i need to get that model. Always wanted it but never actually played Orcs is my problem
Shocked to see the new Wyvern is so cheap, i expected another £100 model
>>46856586
Skarsnik the novel.
>All those old Gobbos / Wolves / Squigs
>Still in the game.
Fuck me i am shocked at how much survived the cut. How the hell are Yhettee's still around?
I mean they are good models, but they ain't 'Age of sigmar' territory, i thought they would be the first to go
>>46856852
>but they ain't 'Age of sigmar' territory,
They are Ogres that were mutated by Chaos. It's not that hard to imagine that in the Chaos twisted landscapes of the Mortal Realms. some Ogor tribes have been exposed to Chaos corruption.
>>46856852
>they ain't 'Age of sigmar' territory
What did he mean by this?
>>46856903
>They are Ogres that were mutated by Chaos
Then my second point of surprise is they didn't call them 'Iceshard Mutantroggothz (with Frostmourn Iceclubz)' or some retarded shit.
Good release all on all, not too much removed, book is nice and cheap, and most of the new Orcs actually look decent. 8/10.
UK Games Workshop site has a "Grand Alliace Collection" on pre-order. All four for £60. Any idea if it'll come to the US/how much?
>>46854567
Warhammer quest lol
>>46857135
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Grand-Alliance-Collection-EN
>>46852454
>>Grimgor Ironhide
>Nothing special nor unique.
>Gordrakk is themortal incarnation of Gork, a shard of his titanic body born to ravage the Mortal Realms. Through brute force and vicious kunnin’, Gordrakk has slaughtered his way to power, uniting the forces of Destruction beneath his blood-soaked banners.
Does that makes him more of a daemon than an Orruk, doesn't it?
>>46857256
Just an excuse to be able to kill this guy and bring him back whenever they feel like it
I can see that the Mediocre Presentation train just keeps on going all the way to Shit Taste Station. When is GW just gonna pull the plug on this retarded project of theirs?
>>46857256
Imagine just the big Dad of the Orruks.
>>46857360
Nice b8 m8
>>46857411
>choo choo!
>>46857256
>what is a metaphor?
>>46857428
Not heavy handed enough for Age of Sigmar.
So where to start with the new Orruks? I dont really want the maw-crusha, but Im really into the brutes. Is it worth getting any ardboyz?
Now that we've seen the scrolls what do we think? Im not sure the brutes compare to blighttkings even though I think theyre supposed to be the same level.
>>46857428
"a shard of his titanic body born to ravage the Mortal Realms"
Considering the High Fantasy theme AoS has, I don't think this is a metaphor.
Also there is more lore about the guy.
>"As Sigmar has unleashed his war against the Chaos Gods and their Everchosen, so the great two-headed orruk god Gorkamorka has sent his emissary to unite the Ironjawz under one banner, the banner of Gordrakk the Fist of Gork, to lead the forces of Destruction on a Waaagh! that will drown the seas and blot out the sun, and leave naught but ruins"
>"It is said Gordrakk appeared when the brutally cunning orruk god Gork smashed his divine fist into the Chaos Dreadholds of Ghur. From the smouldering ruins strode Gordrakk, the biggest, meanest and toughest orruk to walk the Mortal Realms, who quickly earned his appellation ‘the Fist of Gork"
>It’s not just the Ironjaw orruks who pay allegiance to Gordrakk, nor is it just the other, less-monstrous orruk clans. Just as the multifarious legions of Chaos are subservient to Archaon the Everchosen, and the forces of Death are in the thrall of Nagash, so too do all the forces of Destruction flock to Gordrakk’s tattered banner. Where the Ironjaw warclans lead, Destruction follows in their wake, with hordes of eager orruks, ogors and grots desperate to join in the carnage. From the lowliest Moonclan and Spiderfang grots to the mightiest Aleguzzler gargants, all of them want a place in the Fist of Gork’s Great Waaaagh!
>This is the most threatening aspect of Gordrakk, above and beyond simply being the biggest, meanest, toughest orruk on the back of the most vicious Maw-krusha in the Mortal Realms. The myriad forces of Destruction are individually dangerous, as anyone who has had to fight a raging band of Sourbreath Troggoths would attest, but they are hardly a threat to the Mortal Realms. But united under Gordrakk’s meaty fist, these hordes of savage warriors and monsters without counting are driven by a barbaric yet formidable intellect, and together they pose a greater menace to the Mortal Realms than perhaps even the legions of the Everchosen himself.
It's disgusting how much they are sucking off destruction this week.
>>46858111
True they need to get back to sucking Archaon's dick ASAP
>>46852454
Who is ready to win the army of their dreams?
>>46858235
Bretfags and Tombfags
This is your chance to save your armies.
wow it's like they actually designed an interesting creature instead of just inserting a generic dragon.
these AoS models are a huge improvement to me.
>>46858294
I want to fuck that.
>>46858294
That's what makes it so gut wrenching. GW finally start producing models, that don't suck the dick of a 5 weeks dead donkey, at the same time as they plot a business course that intercepts the fucking sun.
I really like half the models for Age of Sigmarines, but fuck that system.
>>46858361
yeah from what i've seen the system is too loose. still no point values right?
you could always have a fan made system of point values. sort of like how competitive pokemon has a fan made system which parallels the official system.
>‘Eight weapons in all were forged by the daemon-smiths,’ he continued. ‘Two for each of the four brothers, gifts to them from the eldest and mightiest of their number, and to himself as well. But the gods soon turned their thoughts from friendship and camaraderie, and towards domination. The four brothers were ever aligned only in opposition, and when their foes fled or faded, Khorne’s boundless fury was turned upon his kinsmen.’
D'aaaawww
Khorne does care about his brothers. He created eight divine weapons and wanted to give each of his brothers two.
>>46858294
Wait a minute, is that dragon chained to the orc's fucking dick?
>>46858653 are you saying you don't chain dragons to your dick? What are you, some kind of pussy ass faggot?
>>46857442
Kek
>>46857898
>>46858235
>Not a 5th Edition Empire or Ork army
Oh well
>>46858111
>Just as the multifarious legions of Chaos are subservient to Archaon the Everchosen, and the forces of Death are in the thrall of Nagash, so too do all the forces of Destruction flock to Gordrakk’s tattered banner.
I wish they would stop this, for all the mind boggling scale of the mortal realms they all seem very small when it's just a big game of risk for like four warlords.
>>46858869
welcome to capeshit
>>46858235
I was until I saw that you had to write shit for it. I thought the EU side when they did it only needed to make $200 worth of purchases.
Do you think my odds of winning would be higher if I mentioned I was a transfemale?
>>46858969
Your better just play it off as being a slaaneshi cultist
>>46858869
Not everyone follows the big guys. They are just the commanders and figureheads of their factions.
Archaon spent a lot of time fighting against Chaos forces that rebelled against him. There are stories of Chaos warlords that refused the call of Archaon. That's why Archaon has the Vanguard go around the realms to enforce his will on the unruly. Also you must remember that the Chaos Gods have bestowed their authority on Archaon. By right, every daemon and mortal are sworn to Archaon. But Chaos being Chaos, not everyone wants to be told what to do.
Going to Nagash. Did you forget that Nagash had to go around Shyish conquering both the living and undead? Not all undead serve him but being the god of death and necromancy means they live under his shadow. How could you forget that Mannfred is currently on the run from Nagash and has no intention of being his chewtoy again.
Gordrakk isn't the absolute leader of destruction yet. He goes around being the crap of other destruction warlords and recruiting them into his growing armies. He has a long way to go.
Is this a female stormcast?
>>46858969
Yeah the writing bit is lame. I'm thinking I could write some sappy shit about how I've waited all my life for Sigmarines to come out and if I won end up not getting a single kit of them.
>>46858969
No because in UK we are not faggots PC like americans, mentioning that will either get you disqualified for trolling or have no effect.
>>46859218
Yes, so what ?
>>46859218
What's her name? They don't throw around character portraits without a blurb next to them explaining who they are.
>>46852454
THIS THREAD STEPS ON ME FAKKIN FROG AN TOAD.
>>46856027
Wurrzag>all.
>goblins and gnoblars are now both labeled as Grots
>>46859490
should have squatted the goblin models
>>46859549
They're short enough already dude.
>>46859264
You don't really want to start a which nation is more cucked war, do you? If you spend any anount of time on /int/ and /pol/ you'll know your country is FAR from free of PC cancer.
>>46859138
That's actually a reasonable idea.
>>46859249
I mean, with $3300 available to purchase shit, you could get two armies pretty easily. Maybe even 3 depending.
>>46859264
Everything I've see in the UK says you're as pozzed as we are when it comes to PC bullshit.
And don't you dare judge me. Just because my neckbeard is showing doesn't mean I'm not a woman. Toxic femininity assumes you have to be smoothskin to be a woman.
>The crystal Tzeentchian lady from the board game is a swordmaster/Chaos champion instead of a Chaos sorceress
Not sure if want?
>>46859331
Marellius Lionheart, the text blurbs give masculines pronouns though.
He's either a fuckboy or pulling a mulan for some reason.
>>46859218
>>46859755
>>46859890
Wait, what's the source on this?
>>46859890
Xe's a nontraditional gender fluid sigmarkin, stop discriminating
>>46859944
My source is new novel "Fury of Gork".
She is among the chosen of Archaon, though she does not know it yet. She has a gaunt summoner guiding her and he is the one controlling the Birdmen.
Archaon's plan is to find 8 worthy champions and arm them with the divine weapons he had created as gifts for his brothers and himself. See >>46858555
She is after the Marrowcutter. The most powerful of the weapons. The Ur-Sword, the weapon Khorne wanted to gift himself.
>>46853079
I'm still gonna use them as ard' boyz in 40k, and new nobz will look great as deathskull nobz/meganobz
>>46859944
stormcast battletome, page 37
>>46860074
>>46859944
What the fuck? I thought Stormcasts were immune to Chaos corruption.
>>46860526
>deathskull nobz
>not snakebites
>>46861003
The Tzeetchian lady is not a stormcast. You are just confused.
>>46861003
I think there are two, different, female characters in agw of sigmar. You're getting mixed up.Shut up, Alarielle is treekin.
>>46861003
the female-looking stormcast has nothing to do with the rumors of the tzeentchian lady
the things ended up correlated by accident here>>46859944
>>46860526
?
>>46857946
>Something growled, deep in his mind. He glanced up and then quickly back down. The shapes crouched low over the scrap-camp, leaning on their knuckles, eyes like balls of fire. They were indistinct things, more suggestions of shapes than shapes themselves, but powerful for all of that. He could feel the weight of their gaze whenever it passed over him, and he shuddered deep in his core. They were part of Gordrakk, and were attached to him in ways that Zazul did not fully understand. The orruks could not see them, he thought, but they could feel them. Sometimes, they would become agitated, and begin to brawl with insubstantial ferocity. Other times they vanished for days at a time, only to return when he least expected it.
>Whatever they were, they were unduly interested in the Howling Labyrinth. Often, he would catch sight of one or the other, leaning down as if to whisper with comedic delicacy into Gordrakk’s ear. And when they whispered, Gordrakk listened. That was dangerous.
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>Gordrakk closed his eyes as the gods squabbled in his head.
>Gork was winning, or maybe Mork. It changed moment to moment, as did their location. He could almost see them, in his mind’s eye. He could certainly hear them. He had always been able to hear them. That was how he knew he was who he was. He was the Fist of Gork, the dead-hard boss-of-bosses. He was the first-born son of brutality and cunning, and stronger than either. That was what the gods whispered to him, and he saw no reason to doubt them.
More fluff confirming who Gordrakk is. He is the son of Gorkamorka. Their firstborn.
>The orruks had made a temporary scrap-camp in the remains of the one once populated by the Black-Iron King’s warhorde. The Chaos-things made good camps, building palisades and stretching vast canvases between jutting bones to block out the harsh light of the suns above. Now, those tents were being used by his boys. Everywhere he looked, he saw Ironjawz prying armour off the bodies of Chaos worshippers or beating new weapons into shape with their fists. Black orruks watched their larger cousins enviously. They weren’t strong enough to do the same, though they sometimes tried.
Well, look at that. The anon the other day was in fact correct. Ard boyz are in fact black orcs. Ironjaws are a new breed of greenskin that the black orruks admire and wish to please.
>>46861453
> He is the son of Gorkamorka. Their firstborn.
Now I'm imagining Gork and Mork conceiving him.
Thanks GW.
>>46861665
Not just wrestling, anon...
>>46861716
kek
>>46861665
Personally I like to think the god simply started to count to see if they were truly one or 2 until they eventually became 3
>>46861716
lol and they are nude too in that pic. 10/10
>>46861565
Worf effect spotted!
>>46861003
Why is the first girl Stormcast the first to turn to Chaos?
Why is Age actively removing all female characters? The only "living" female characters right now are Neferata and Morathi, and Morathi is likely on borrowed time.
>>46861959
Valkyria is still around too.
>>46861959
>Why is the first girl Stormcast the first to turn to Chaos?
Did not happen. That anon just got confused.
>Why is Age actively removing all female characters? The only "living" female characters right now are Neferata and Morathi, and Morathi is likely on borrowed time.
Valkia and the Tzeentchian lady are pretty much alive and have important roles.
Does anyone have a really good piece of artwork of Gorkamorka, Gork and/or Mork, or Gordrakk from Age? If so, would you please post it?
>>46861565
>beating new weapons into shape with their fists.
I just love orcs so much. i love the new ironjaw, they hace all the delicious orcness of older edition while looking finally threatening and not just goofy.
>>46862009
>are pretty much alive and have important roles.
And I also bet Alarielle will have a new kit, sooner or later. Her model beign scrapped and the lore kinda point towards that.
>>46861453
So he's Orc Jesus?
Quick question, guys.
I got another box of paladins today for a bunch of planned hero conversions. But that also means I've got another of these double-bladed axe heads usually meant for the Decimator Prime. Should I get rid of the old twin handaxes on my Prime (see pic) and replace it with a more appropriate greataxe, or should I leave it as is?
I've been sitting here for an hour, but I just can't make up my mind.
>Taros studied the other Stormcast for a moment. ‘It cannot be easy,’ he said, as he stood. ‘Hearing the voices of the dead, I mean.’
>Seker shrugged. ‘They are not a talkative folk, by and large. And there are worse voices in the dark than those of pain-addled gargants.’ His voice became soft. ‘I hear another sometimes, echoing up out of some vast, lightless chasm... A voice like a funerary bell, calling his children home.’ He shuddered slightly and shook his head. ‘I first heard him in the Gnarlwood, and have dreaded the sound of his voice ever since.’
Come home, stormcast. Come home and rest by my side where you belong.
>>46862030
40k piece of orkbros.
>>46861565
Haha, I told you so!
That said, punching weapons into shape is so awesome that I think I can live with.
>>46862441
>>46861453
The lore has been picking up speed lately.
>>46862527
Age of Emperor here we come!
>>46862135
Now to watch him pick up peaceful shamanism, retreat into a self-searching journey, find a brown skinned orc lady to spawn a few more mary-sue bastards with, and then come back to instagib dragons and giants and steal the glory from everyone elses monumental efforts.
>Buying my first Warhammer regiment
>Freeguild Guard (former Empire State Troops)
>I read nagging on the forum and hear discouraging words from people saying painting is 'way too hard' for even a Sigmarite, let alone actual miniatures
>6 hours later
>nothing difficult to it.
Do you need to be gifted by the Gods to be a Warhammerfag?
>>46862740
painting minaitures is not hard(at least, not at game level)as some people brag about.
It just requires a LOT of time. 6 hours can be hard to find when you work almost all day.
Anyway, most painting can be broke up into simple tecniques and tricks, and requires just a firm hand and a good eye(aka if you are not blind you are ok).
>>46862740
You need patience, which many these days don't have.
Post your mini.
>>46862667
Well, I assume that's the main source for Age of Sigmar inspiration, so, makes sense.
Stupid question maybe, but is the AoS more skirmish-friendly than the old WFB? Essentially, if I buy one of those "start collecting' bundles, will I have a miserable experience and need more regiments, or will i have at least some tactics available? Obviously I don't expect as much depth as 6th edition, but will it be just random brawl withso few units?
>>46862827
They're not finished yet, although I'm currently aiming on an Averland-ish army with primarily black and secondary yellow, bit of green for minor details and eventually a self-made banner for Grenzstadt.
The black and yellow have already been added though, so I don't think it will take that long. Maybe a post in a few days.
>>46862925
Yes
>>46862925
it definetely is.
best way to play skirmishes is with 5-6 warscrolls, 5 models max per unit, base infantry only with limitations based on good sense like: only one monster(small ones like fiends of slaanes or trolls only, limited to one model only), no big kits and heroes only within 6 wounds. Works pretty well because you have units so squishy you need to carefully plan engagments. Works great with battleplans too.
Start collecting are great but they are NOT balanced if fielded against each other(like, seraphon SC is not the same as greenskin or demon of nurgle, because thye have op great kits inside).
>>46862925
>if I buy one of those "start collecting' bundles, will I have a miserable experience
Yes, because you'll be playing Age of Sigmar.
Slowly but surely more and more people are coming around to AoS.
I am anxious to see where they go from here.
>>46863085
back, they go back
>>46863085
Yeah, people are coming around to it when it's not just endless Stormcasts and Khorne Bloodbloods releases. What a surprise!
>>46863180
That's not happening. Most people don't enjoy painting blocks of cannon fodder infantry.
You're a fool if you really believe that GW will roll back to WFB.
>>46863245
Hey, there were dwarves too. I don't like dwarves but that magmadroth is pretty sweet.
>>46863248
>Most people don't enjoy painting blocks of cannon fodder infantry.
Most people don't enjoy painting, full stop. Which is why all available data shows X-Wing is the single most selling tabletop game.
>>46863265
1) There are no Dwarves in Warhammer, and never has been. They are Dwarfs.
2) Those were Fyreslayers, and have nothing to do with Dwarfs culturally or in their very origins.
3) Mirroring.
>>46863287
Well the Star Wars brand name doesn't hurt either...
>>46863287
True enough, I'd play it too but ships aren't my thing.
>>46863302
Yeah, but 40k is outselling Armada so the game itself has to be good as well.
Armada isn't bad, just not very exciting and the balance is really bad.
>>46863300
>2) Those were Fyreslayers, and have nothing to do with Dwarfs culturally or in their very origins.
Fyreslayer culture is based around the Slayers of the World-that-was and also the worship of Grimnir that dwarfen/duadrin god of vengeance.
The Fyreslayer and the rest of the daudrin are descendants of the World-That-Was dwarves.
So you iz a liar.
>>46863300
Whatever, all I see are short, fat dudes with beards and axes.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
>>46863364
Fyreslayers were born when Grimnir blew up, their entire culture was formed by Chaos Dwarfs which are NOT Dawi as Dwarfs and Chaos Dwarfs believe.
>>46863287
Most people don't play tabletop games period.
>>46863364
Fyrekeks are the new generation of Chaos Dwarves but with less Alto Chaos worshipping.
I've thought of getting a Duardin army and fluff-claiming its a new Duardin kingdom, but the lack of Dwarf-tier peasants / miners put me off and made me buy a force of former Empire troops.
>>46863399
>Fyreslayers were born when Grimnir blew up
No, the Fyreslayers were there as Grimnit's worshippers before he blew up. The whole hunt for the Ur-gold thing started after their god blew up.
The fluff states that their culture is inspired by the old world slayers. Only thing related that might be related to the Chaos dwarfs is the style of one of their character type beards.
>>46863414
Shut up, Kirby, good rules actually do matter if you wanna sell the toys.
>>46863456
>that image
my favourite meme. When is one getting made for the AGE OF SIGMAR
>>46863085
Yeah honestly GW needed somehting without a huge barrier to entry. And they are actually engaging with the community and adding discounts in the start collecting boxes... It looks positive. Plus AoS is pretty fun if you play a scenario. The Path To Glory is AMAZING. Seriously, try it. Miniwargaming series on it got me back into AoS. Now I'm rebasing my 3k of Chaos.
Also is this the most positive an AoS thread has ever been? I only count 2 shitposters.
>>46862422
I'd keep as is, it makes him stand out as special :)
>>46863472
>The fluff states that their culture is inspired by the old world slayers.
But they have literally nothing to do with Slayers. At all.
The only similarity is mohawks.
>>46863509
Sorry, should have given you a trigger warning.
>>46863540
Don't jinx it.
Remember when GW named a faction after furry ticking?
Well now they have someone's fursona leading Destruction.
http://nainporteki.deviantart.com/gallery/53882857/Gordrakk
There's a lot more on Furaffinity.
>>46863640
IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN
>>46863640
Inb4 based duncan is spotted in a fursuit. he looks like that kinda guy
>>46863472
>>46863590
Well, Fyreslayers have the Order keyword, so they are not that chaotic. Some of the fluff early on intimated that they would fight for anyone. Maybe that's true, but so far they seem to abhor Chaos as much as anyone else. There is the odd cosmetic homage, but overall the Fyreslayers are their own faction. Descendent perhaps from the previous lore, but they are now something new.
>>46861665
Orcs have two daddies
>>46863590
And being fighty and naked!
>>46863748
They prefer to work with Order but will work with anyone as long as they pay well in Ur gold.
So the normal Goblin/Gitmob Warboss didn't get an updated Warscroll in the app. Mistake or are they really not carrying over the generic Goblin Warboss?
>>46863748
Thing is, Fyreslayers are an actual race of Dwarfs who breed, live, and spread out to settle.
Slayers are Dwarfs from all other parts of Dwarf society who seek only to die. They don't breed, and aren't a race. They have no goal other than suicide by fight to the death and maybe avenge Grudges.
>>46863987
I think that was solidified best in the At The Threshold battleplan, where they have to defend Fyreslayer children and civilians holed up in their lodge from a large Chaos advance
https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2016/04/22/battle-report-at-the-threshold/
>>46863054
Well, that's nice to hear. I doubt it'll be as good as 5th ed, but what is. If i can have a decent game with 30-40 minis per side I'm game.
>>46864212
Nothing will ever be as good as 5th and 6th edition, but AoS is really fun. I would suggest doing battleplans and using lots of scenery with the rules for said scenery rather than just running the armies at each other as well :)
>>46857898
As a Blightking-fanboy I'm pretty terrified of Brutes. They have a dangerous Champ and special weapon and the Command Abilities pump their attack counts so far up that they can plow through just about everything, never mind that they get stronger against Ogres and bigger (read: rip Bile Trolls a new asshole)
Compare that to Blightkings who are a tiny bit tougher (higher Bravery and that pseudo-Regen) and have terrifying attacks but outside the Glottkin or Orghotts have no worthwhile Command Ability that increases their killiness.
If you want to start them, get two boxes 'ardboyz so you can field 3 units of 10. Then two squads of Brutes and maybe a unit of cav. Season to taste with Heroes; I'd take a shaman, an airplane coordinator and a flying bulldog. That gets you a big army and enough units to make the Boss' Command ability worthwhile.
The special character isn't really worth it because his Command, though powerful, is one use only.
Question.
The new Orruc Wyvern looks amazing. I was thinking of buying one just for the sake of it. But does anybody know it's size? I could use it as a Squiggoth in 40k if it's big enough.
Also, what about the idea of painting it like this? Thought it'd be a great scheme.
>>46864532
the base is 160mm round
a squiggoth is still bigger I think
>orruk megaboss has a 60mm base
Holy shit. I wonder if the dragon skull is appropriately sized for a stardrake.
>>46864212
30-40 minis is actually the "standard" size game for many. My lgs use even less, counting wounds(wich is stupid and just encourages cheesy lists from people who came from whfb).
>>46864532
then i am not the only one who tought it looked like the fat, retarded brother of the tigrex!(wich is kinda amazing, anyway).
>>46864601
160? shit, since he basically fills the whole base its going to be massive.
>>46864601
Hmmm. Shame. I think it looks pretty cool. The boar warboss(?) looks ace as well. Shaman is meh. Brutes are meh (but good Mega Nobs).
My guess is, every single faction which has disappeared will return with a new look, like the Orcs are.
It seems only Lizardmen and Chaos were left untouched. Shame. I'm still pissed off every faction has a God, bar Lizardmen, and every army has a 'God Unit', you know, a super powerful unit, Lizardmen don't.
Sigmarines have Star Drakes + Celestant Prime.
Skaven have Verminlords + Skreech Verminking
Chaos have Archaon
Daemons have Greater Daemons
Undead have Nagash, Mortarchs plus great units like Archai and Terrorgiests and Zombie Dragons
Lizardmen don't really have anything. Kroak is massively outperformed by Nagash. Slann aren't anything special. Oldblood aren't great (even Dracoliths do D6 damage on a 6, Carnosaurs only do D3 normally, no D6, despite needing a 6).
Hell, even Dread Saurians are raped by shit like Abominations, Greater Daemons, Star Drakes (seriously read their rules, it's insane, especially the comet attack, which isn't magic either) and lots of other crap. It's a real shame.
14HP isn't great. Sure you heal D3, but only if you do damage, lots of other units do it too. The only thing going for it is 3+ 3+ -3 D6 attacks.
>>46864651
Yeah that's what I thought when I saw it. But it's still an ace model. It fits Orcs well. Lithe and graceful things are for faggot Elves.
>>46864740
Bastiladon and Engine of the Gods are pretty strong, Lizardmen are a powerful enough army as is without an OP leader char
>>46864758
>
For me, its a good thing. he looks retarded in a good way-the design is just good. It looks stupid but threatening, massive but not obese. As soon as im finished painting all my minis i think ill get one, along with some brutes.
>>46864817
Yeah I guess. But it's still lame.
>>46864908
I agree. I think it suits the 'dumb' attitude of the Orcs. So it's a nice design. The rest, bar the boar, are meh.
It is now canon that Bugman survived End Times.
>>46864970
The boar would look amazing, like a squidded evolution of regular boar but...that underchin fur is just UGLY. it completely ruins the model, its static, unnatural and looks like slapped in by some random guy who accessed the cad file while everyone else slept. Some greenstuffing and it will be fixed i guess.
I heard Sigmarines can be women, is this true?
>>46865194
this again? so far the answers has been, in order:
>no
>yes, probably
>anyting can be whatever you want! buy more plz
And finally
>yes, now plz stop asking
>>46865194
Yes. Sigmarines are whoever Sigmar wants to turn into one.
Also, Reynolds said yes and he's the only one writing any good lore.
>>46865219
>>46865246
So has any actual canon confirmed this? Or is it just Reynolds saying so? I need to ask him about Lizardmen and Old Ones and shit. His book with them in was great. Funny and good action. Also he shat on Sigmarines by making Seraphon be better.
>>46865421
in godbeast an entire family-including females-have been reforged to stormcasts. So i guess yes.
>>46865005
Where?
But are you expecting female to have armor that make last them look female or would they simply wear armor like any male does?
I sincerely doubt that GW is going to go back and release female Stormcast models.
>>46866017
Oh. Not read that yet.
>>46866212
I don't mind. I always assumed women were involved. As it says he raises up HEROES. Not "Male Heroes". I think it's cool. While I'd like a female torso in a box, just so they don't look like a man, I'm not bothered. The chest nipple armour is odd if they are also women.
>>46866377
Well, they gave Batgirl cameltoe armor. So its not unprecedented.
>>46866706
They did? Since when? DC is very lewd these days. They've done the SJW shit and realised it sucked. Marvel hasn't realised it yet.
Got any pictures of said armour?
>>46866212
They could release a female hero model. Don't have to put that in mainstream units of the army.
>>46866212
females wear male armour, so you can pretend youir stormcasts are all female if you want.
>>46867121
this. I expect a female hero model sooner or later. Wouldn't be bad actually, stormcasts really need some variety in design, like they are now they are just plain boring. its the same model with swapped weapons and nearly invisible detail changes between units.
>>46866910
The shitty Batman movie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M8FC7uZj3M
>>46867648
>females wear male armour,
We've never actually seen any females so we don't know what they wear.
What if, when you get reforged you become sexless and have a masculine body, or at least a body that is akin to the armor we see Stormcasts wearing?
>>46868714
Then Stormcasts would be even more of a bunch of boring faggoty nobodies than they already are.
You should be trying to make them more interesting, not less.
>>46868809
I think they are fine as is and don't need female Stormcasts at all.
>>46868894
That's nice.
Faggots are generally well treated in most countries these days.
>>46868894
What do you mean "as is", there's already female Sigmarines.
Are you guys some Social Justice Warriors who need women in everything?
>>46869295
What did he mean by this?
>>46863929
>not carrying over the generic Goblin Warboss?
They don't have model ATM, that is why.
>>46864532
>The new Orruc Wyvern looks amazing.
Meatlug is amazing!!!
>>46864740
>bar Lizardmen, and every army has a 'God Unit'
Slann is godlike, in term of lore and magic.
>>46865045
>that underchin fur is just UGLY
That ruin the kit.
>>46869582
>That ruin the kit.
it definetely does.
And i think why.
if you take the one with the perfectly horizzontal head, the fur looks fine.
but if you look at the other two, the fur looks like there is no gravity, its literally hard rock staying still. It doesnt even look like fur, its like it has been cemented. its a mistake so ugly it literally ruins an otherwise good kit. How they tought this was okay?
They made the cad design, than some manager tought the heads needed to be tilted and the guy they payed to modify the cad simply rotated and moved the head without fixing the fur?
thats the only explanation i can think of. And it really, really sad, because otherwise they would look really good, they are fucking wild boars on steroids.
>>46863512
When someone creative will actually care for this pile of shit. In other words: never.
I want to make an army of ironjawz, and even if i like the idea of having big chunks of ardboys following small numbers of brutes in order to get their approval, the ardboys aka former black orcs model are just too goofy and plain retarded for me, so there's the question: would an army made entirely of the new releases(aka 20 brutes, 6 gore gruntas 1 maw crasha 1 shaman 1 warchanter)be too cheesy?
i like the new fluff on ardboys but their model are so bad its hard just to llok at them on the website.
>>46870102
Problem is getting more fluff. Sigmarines are the only one you could do. I suppose Fyreslayers.
It's not hard to write and the art isn't anything to worry about, you seem to think creativity is the thing needed, when it's actually people are lazy.
Also, why are you here when you don't like the thing? I don't like it that much but I've always loved seeing new shit. I find it fanscinating insight into the minds of humans when, despite not liking something, they continue to expose themselves to it and convince other people who do like it, to hate it instead.
Whatever floats your boat anon. Most people here would meme and go "autism", but they are right, sticking around to attack something despite not liking it is a sign of autism. A normal person would leave and never return.
But this is 4chan, can be both sides in one thread.
>>46870243
what about instead of 'ard boyz, you get a ton of goblins?
>>46869295
No, we're heterosexual males.
Studies show that pandering to us results in profits.
Sadly, that means Games Workshop has no idea we exist.
>>46870794
yeah and I bet you pick female avatars in MMOs while trying to tell us all how straight you are
>>46870752
thats...thats a good idea. Savage orcs would also be a good choice, but i still have to finish the ones i converted for my nurgle warband and i can't bear to even see another fucking one.
Goblins also makes a great fluff addiction. i could greenstuffing small ironjaws for them trying to mimic their big broddas.
yes, thanks anon, the more i think of it the more it sounds orcishly stupid and AMAZING.
>>46870954
happy to help
>>46870931
I bet you pick the biggest, toughest dude so you can feel better about yourself.
>>46870931
I don't play MMOs, I'm not a college student anymore.
reading new ironjaw warscrolls, they look pretty solid. even tho their bosses command abilities work best imho when they support huge mobs of black or..i mean, 'ardboyz.
Also, the maw crusha seems fun as hell, beign able to wipe of remnants of already wounded units and then charge again.
>>46870491
>Whatever floats your boat anon. Most people here would meme and go "autism", but they are right, sticking around to attack something despite not liking it is a sign of autism.
Sorry to burst your bubble anon, but not understanding an elementary human behavioral pattern, a feat which you demonstrate again and again is what actually constitutes as autism.
>>46872675
What do you expect from NEET numales who frequent these boards? Sure the dude is autist but that's true for a large percent of 4chan. I mean if these keyboard-huggers were even at one team sport event they wouldn't cry for 'hating' and 'they hurt my game'.
Oh k, so i got Kroak, Sunblood, one unit of Chameleon skinks, a skink priest, a box of skinks, and the stuff from the start collecting. Im thinking of getting a bastilidon next, would you agree, or should i check out something else?
>>46864740
I agree with you there. I see my Lizardmen army and what is available for them and it seems there is a lack of model(s) that i would consider being TOP tier. At least along the lines of the Celestant, Greaters Daemons, etc. Kroak can hit hard, but with the other Slann being more buff oriented, you dont have that one unit that you put out and think "Hey, maybe this will make the battle more fun" or "Maybe this will even the odds." Something that the Dread Saurian did not make me feel. Maybe i should just get 5 bastilidons flanked by Salamanders with a back up of Ripperdactyls and hope for the best.
>>46873438
>Kroak
You need Saurus Astrolith Bearer.
>>46873734
I plan on getting him this weekend actually, if he is still available. I actually dont have his warscrolll downloaded. What does he do? I know he buffs the hell out of your saurus dudes but how d you use him?
So I'm thinking of fluffing out my skeleton/sylvan army as undead spirits from a long defeated kingdom. When their kingdom was destroyed, their king used ancient magics to bind them to the land and now they are still defending their long homes which have become over grown and taken by nature. Later the undead king managed to forge peace with nature spirits and are now united as a single force with nature spirits taking over plants and trees, while undead spirits inhabit skeletons or become new nature spirits. As time went on, man made structures started to fuse with local flora, with vines and branches making a bead curtain doors and what not.
When a skeleton is destroyed, it's spirit either goes to another skeleton, becomes a sprite or fairy.
As for metal armor and weapons, they simply loot off their enemies instead of mining/smelting new ones.
When not fighting, skeletons are either planting new trees and flowers, or watching over their lands.
I was also thinking of running lots of things like bats, wolves, and other stuff I'd find in nature.
What do you guys think? Anything I should change?
>>46873955
That sounds like it would work! It makes sense. The spirits become forces of nature. Maybe is a skeleton does enough nature work, natural wood/bark grows around it and it becoems a new dryad?
Other things:
Necromancers who come and try to take magic from the area are often captured and given a choice between becoming one with the forest or being executed. Those who prove loyal are mind melded with a nature spirit who keeps him in check. If he becomes a lich, his phylactery becomes a mighty tree that's tied to the forest.
After battle, the skeletons harvest dead bodies, flesh, food, and what not recycled into ash to be fed to the forest, and the bones being used as new bodies. Due to this, there are no zombies. Ghouls are kept provided they prove their loyalty. Often digging tunnels underground to guard against underground attackers and to get from one place to the other without being seen and quickly.
>>46874094
Thanks. That could work, my original idea was the spirit "ascends", leaves the skeleton and takes over some tree or something.
So does anyone know GW's policy on using non-citadel miniatures if they've discontinued a model they have a warscroll for? eg tomb kings/bretonnia?
Or is it just stiff shit, can't play them?
>>46874330
Potential bait but ill bite.
Tomb kings and Brettonia are supported still with rules so that they can be played in AoS, though they are discontinued.
>>46874385
What I mean is, if you don't have the GW models, you can't play them- right?
>>46874468
In a GW store? No. Literally everywhere else? Yes you can, unless your opponent is an asshole.
>>46874520
>In a GW store? No. Literally everywhere else? Yes you can, unless your opponent is an asshole.
Yeah that's what I mean. Everywhere except GW in my area plays 9th age including myself. Have been looking at giving AoS a go at my local GW store but a few of my key bretonnian models are third party, so I guess I'd have to use a different army :(
>>46871020
He plays a big guy.
>>46874558
My local GW allows third party models as long as there's some form of citadel bits on them. So one guy at my store has a third party bloodthirster, but he switched out the shoulder pads, axe and wings and our rep is fine with it.
>>46869582
>They don't have model ATM, that is why.
I actually did check online afterwards and see that. Makes sense given the whole no media without a model policy they seem to have now.
>>46870931
I pick female avatars in games cause I'd rather watch a woman's ass running for hours than a man's lol.
>>46873858
>he buffs the hell out of your saurus dudes
He also +1 casting roll and 8" range
>Lord Kroak
>Celestial Deliverance
>d3 mortal wound to all enemies
>3d6 range
>can cast up to 3 time
Once team up, d3 mortal wound to all enemies within 3d6+8", 3 time!!!
