Starting a cyberpunk thread with some portraits.
>Don't argue about what is/isn't cyberpunk, please
>Or about "cyberpunk is now/no it isn't"
>>46814911
These are all NPCs in my game.
I like it better when my cyberpunk lacks magic. I want my technodoodads, and I want them to be the awesome thing. I want my character not the physical combatant because they were a shut in who liked making small robots, not because they read books and dealt with magical powers and shit.
Also, I find it kind of funny that the game Jazzpunk is an example of Cyberpunk as it would be in the fifties or whatever.
>>46815678
Yes, cyberpunk should be grounded in reality with technology as the primary driver of power and societal change.
>>46815678
Agreed.
>>46815760
Corey Hart?
Believe it or not most of my players wouldn't recognize him.
>>46815997
Well I don't know I'd recognise him on the street or anything
If anyone wants a bad movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9V7rz2Dg7g [Embed]
the femme fatale
thought you guys might enjoy this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkjIsnjKhew
http://ruinergame.com/
> /v/
>>46816671
Looks cool, but it's yet another action shooter.
Satellite Reign was great because it mixed the tactical shootan with some hacking, resource management, infiltration and politics, even if it did get repetitive after a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFZVXG0g40Q
time for some cyberpunk blakk qts.
>>46817066
I hope some people found this useful for their games.
What if the magic is treated as unknown science and is still outside human grasp? Its the domain of atrange creatyres with stranger objectives that are tampering with the human world? Humans are still blitzing ahead with tech and corps are making wage slaves. But theres occult conspiracies messing with reality
>>46818894
>Looks like someone's got a case of SURGE
>>46817054
yea, I love Satellite Reign, just because you can pull off smash&grab bank jobs, and because it's real-time it's much more tense running away
or just picking the scout guy, and running a solo infiltration
or using a mind-controlled guard to open all the doors for you
new-ish cyberpunk webcomic : http://www.drugsandwires.fail/
>>46819010
That's not a street sam. That's a shitty drawing of X-23 during her hooker phase.
>>46820790
Looks alright, will check it out.
>>46818823
>But theres occult conspiracies messing with reality
That would be better than the overt everyone-and-their-ghoul-dog has magic of Shadowrun. More like the weirdness of the Sprawl trilogy.
But really, cyberpunk is about tech, so everything "occult" should have a tech source, but one so advanced or bizarre that to human understanding it looks like spirits/monsters/magic/voodoo.
>>46823496
Consider the HFY angle
Were busy engineering new tech from this so called magic and leaping ahead in research
>>46818823
I've always been a fan of the concept of Cthulhupunk - you've got the dark, gritty world of cyberpunk combined with the unspeakable horror of eldritch abominations from another plane. Plus, it brings up the possibility for megacorps trying to utilize knowledge not meant for the minds of mortal men for fun and profit - weaponized shoggoths, anyone?
>>46824001
That's great for optimistic, gleaming future scifi. It's even great for 'man has gone too far' scifi. But it's pretty shit for cyberpunk.
Hey, don't let this thread fall off unless I really slouch off. I'm going to churn out a cyberpunk/generic-sci-fi short story as I do my homework.
Dom was in hell. His chest pounded and burned within with every breath he took. He groaned, doubled over around his knees as his nails dug into the skin of his temples. His stomach tried to twist in on itself, to leap out of his throat. It would have, if it weren’t already empty. He fell to his knees, the steel on his knees ground through the gravel.
The world spun and his hands were on the ground, spreading out like roots to give him support. Feebly, he found the edge of the building, touching it gently to find his way again. His eyes closed for a moment, and the shadows were replaced. He was back in the helicopter again. The rain was pouring, or was it spraying off the sea? He could taste the salt.
Iron bile filled his mouth and his stomach found more to spew. Dom was back in the helicopter however. “Gaijin!” his commander shouted, reaching over to punch his radio. “You’re our hacker. Stay in middle. We’re touching down.” Dom barked back an aye and turned to the open door.
He wasn’t a hacker; he was a mule with a gun. There was a preprogrammed assault code sitting in the back of his skull. The file was huge, almost as large as an entire artificial intelligence and he didn’t know a single line of it. Shinra had jacked it into his skull, covered it in red tape, and strapped him into the chopper.
>>46827145
Ink black water frothed just feet below him from the chop of the blades. It was darker than the night sky above, and had its own stars. Deep beneath the waves were multi-colored lights scattered about. Aquatic drones swam through the water, guided by the lights. Their shadows moved like miniature leviathans. He was punched again.
He turned back to see a small plastic bottle being rattled in his face. “Don’t forget your supps, Gaijin.” Dom eyed the strange, hexagonal pills. He scowled and reached out to swat it away. As his arm moved, it swirled through the vision and brushed it away as well.
He was upright again. Every step scraped his shoulder against the concrete in a dry, tearing rasp. He winced as he walked into a wall of light. He turned to the garish purple glow slashing through an alley at him. Then his hand found the control panel to his door. Cold sweat smeared across the panel, but it got the scan. The computer welcomed him home, and the entrance lights slowly illuminated the hall. One step through the portal and he fell back into the vision.
The Matrix was totally unrealistic in that neither the humans or machines created hedonistic paradises in the matrix. Even the guy who betrayed the humans just wanted to be reincarnated as a rich guy basically, which is still really low on the totem poll of possibilities.
>>46828019
They do address this though.
Basically a 24/7 pleasure palace for everyone gets maddeningly boring and it causes the system to break down.
Suffering and struggle defines people, and in the case of the traitor, being a king is made better by being able to look down on the peasants.
>>46827187
Dom was in the station now. He was crouched down, two fingers on the ground. His eyes were closed but he could feel every step near him. He tried not to think about the drug hidden in his waist pocket, but it pulled him down with a Sisyphean weight. He poured himself into the task. Twenty meters away from him, a drone the size of a kabuto beetle was crawling between IR lasers and through electrified grid.
The tiny robot waddled to the server with a loping certainty as Dom guided it. The access terminal was exposed to security, but the carapace of the drone was some kind of reactive gel. Light hit its back and bended, blurring the base colors of the terminal together until it disappeared. He figured that in two, maybe three, months, every terminal this side of the planet with something to protect would have a high contrast grid sprayed onto it.
“I’m in,” he whispered as the device slotted into the terminal and opened its wireless access. Dom put his other hand to his head and reached out with his neural implant. He found his lips suddenly dry. His implant wasn’t designed for this, not that Shinra cared. All they knew was it could be used for the job, and that they had a hold on Dom. He hoped his implant wouldn’t be noticed, and connected with the drone.
Data immediately began pouring out of his skull. He could almost feel the circuitry heating inside his head, boiling his brain. The implant was archaic by laboratory standards. It had to be, because it was at body temperature and couldn’t use quasi-superconductors. It didn’t even have a Diarca Battery in it, it charged off his blood. But nevertheless, the amount of data flowing from him to the drone and into the terminal would have been a momentary river if written out.
>>46828153
“Door open,” the Korean on the team whispered, and Dom’s spine froze. Delicately, he rotated the camera on the drone. The terminal was near one of the emergency exits for the lower station. The door they had expected to stay closed, the one covered in red and white warnings, had been popped ajar. A man in his mid-twenties stepped out, snugging a polyester knit hat around his shaven head. A flame appeared between his hands, and soon there was a cigarette between his lips. Every physical security location had the fatal flaw of the humans using it, except now that was poised against them.
“I can’t extract the drone without blowing the op,” Dom whispered.
“How much time do you need?” his commander responded.
Dom could feel the crosshairs on him as his overwatch surveyed. “Too much.”
All of them paused, waiting. They watched the man’s cloud of smoke dissipate with more interest than the smoker himself. Below, work was continuing as usual for the Huronian outpost. A quiet night where an employee could sneak off for a smoke without being noticed. But that employee was too free in the wandering of his mind, and noticed the terminal.
Dom’s chest was thumping. It pounded and hammered like a caged animal. “Don’t do it. Don’t be curious today,” he mouthed to himself. But he watched as the man walked over, getting closer to the terminal. Hope fluttered for a moment when the man hesitated; but, it was only to take another drag. A sneer of confusion distorted the man’s face as he leaned down.
(More to come tomorrow, anyone reading and liking?)
>>46828127
That was addressing the entire matrix, which makes sense. I am talking about on an individual level.
>>46828019
What about in the second Matrix movie? There is the Nightclub of Orgies
>>46827092
That's why shadowrun magic was promptly exploited and turned into a big industry. Magical security is a constant stream of income (Almost nothing magical is truly permanent, so wards need to be replaced weekly and spirits need to be rebound every once in a while), as is making and selling foci to the Awakened (Some of which can cost more than a new car).
They made it pretty cyberpunk for what it is.
>>46815678
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>>46823496
you all sound like perfect candidates for cyberpunk 2020/cyberpunk 2013.
>>46818823
you sound like a good candidate for 1st edition shadowrun.
>>46828019
and you sound like a perfect candidate for the ovens
>the matrix
>cyberpunk
its just standard dystopian scifi you cock. go hotglue yourself.
So I've been reading through GURPS Cyberworld, as the setting kind of interested me a bit, and jesus christ they killed Australia.
>>46830905
How does that even work? A plague that virulant would kill the world. There are people leaving Melbourne every minute of the day on planes and it evidently spreads ungodly fast.
>>46830931
Lightning fast incubation period, perhaps? Got it one moment, and 30 minutes later you're pissing and shitting yourself. That would turn a plane around damn quick.
>>46830931
>>46830905
>>46830975
>quality of 4chan improves overnight
>>46830931
Apparently everyone else in 2041 is as confused as you are.
>>46828167
>>46828153
>>46827187
>>46827145
Not bad. "Huronian", I'm guessing that's the corp?
>>46822186
When a runner uses their political connections to make one of your executive consultants temporarily unavailable, then executes an inside job to steal your plans for a small government coup, so you pay off a security agency to run a data trace on said runner's location, and then flatten them with munitions you just happened to have stockpiled (sadly the counterstrike teams were unavailable) - it feels good to be the corp
>>46830905
>live in a small ass country
>less people on this god damn rock than there are people in New York City
>spread super far apart
>could split the country up into individual lots of land and everyone would have 2.8km^2 to themselves
>have 1st world amenities
>top tier health care
>everyone in the entire fucking country dies within 4 months
>mfw
>>46831893
fucked up that stat, should be 0.3 km^2 per person
>>46830633
The problem with Shadowrun is that the magic spiraled totally out of proportion in the fluff. At this point, it's more of a magical dystopia 'also with cyberware' than cyberpunk 'also with elves.'
Is the cyberpunk future only going to have boring stuff?
>>46832748
In real life? Depends on how boring you find smartphones and self-driving cars. I'm guessing you're some kind of an obnoxious shitheel determined to be unhappy for some stupid reason, so yes, it's going to be super boring for you.
>>46832748
By definition, yes. Everything becomes boring when you interact with it long enough.
>>46832763
Good point. I shouldn't whinge about things no matter what excuses I'm offered.
I personally don't trust self-driving cars, but smartphones and Skype are both cool and useful.
>>46832776
Older people said the same thing. Familiarity breeds contempt, after all.
>>46832841
>I personally don't trust self-driving cars
Why not?
>>46832841
>I personally don't trust self-driving cars
They have a WILDLY better safe-driving record than humans do.
I personally don't trust human-driven cars.
>>46832893
Because I got my license a few months ago, and I want to enjoy it for a few years more.
>>46832902
Can self-driving cars react to bad drivers in other cars as well as human drivers should?
Can self-driving cars know when to break the rules of the road, and which to break, in response to road conditions?
>>46833000
>Can self-driving cars react to bad drivers in other cars as well as human drivers should?
Better, actually, because their reaction/processing time is better than the best human driver's.
>Can self-driving cars know when to break the rules of the road, and which to break, in response to road conditions?
Yes, that's actually one of the easiest things to program.
Computers aren't just better, safer drivers than humans, they're orders of magnitude better and safer. It's a task that humans are, flatly, inferior at. Every second that a human driver is on the road instead of a self-driving car is a second that people are literally being put in unnecessary danger - and when car accidents are the single most common form of injury-related death in the United States, that's a big fucking deal.
>Because I got my license a few months ago, and I want to enjoy it for a few years more.
That's the type of selfishness that ends lives because you don't realize how shit you actually are at driving.
>>46833000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X-5fKzmy38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-M3RY9lSks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I5rraWJq6E
Seems to deal with shitty drivers pretty well.
>>46831870
one of the corps, Shinra is in fact another corp
>>46820790
That cybereye on the doctor looks amazingly shit. Like it was just plonked on there.
>>46833153
You've got to love it, right?
>>46833117
I figured it was, but it could have just been any asshole who wired him up.
Not sure if I would use "Sisyphean" for a weight pulling the man down, that feels like a weight you'd push ahead. Still, a good word though
>>46833168
I figured it was an applicable word since he gets pushed supps every op, and has to take them every time it goes FUBAR, leaving him in a spiral of addiction and purging essentially
>>46833195
In that case it's good. And amusing.
You the EDEN dude?
>>46833257
Indeed I am. I'm distracting myself from the hell of trying to edit my synopsis by writing a short story set in universe, a few months after the end of the book.
>>46828167
“Take him,” Dom’s commander ordered. Three sub-sonic rounds popped off behind Dom. Crude railguns, more akin to medieval crossbows than a firearm, lobbed flechettes into the worker. Pins of steel lanced into him and the man fell to the ground convulsing. He hit with just enough force.
Lights flooded on across the station as an alarm. Blackness was washed out by light. Dom tried to sever the connection with the drone, but the program was still executing. Disorientation and blindness swept through him, sending his inner ear tumbling end over end until he found himself on the floor.
There were hands around his face. He could feel someone ripping his shirt open. The blinding light faded and there was no south pacific station, but the dull grey paint of his apartment. The construction foam ceiling was peeling apart around the lone light fixture, a familiar aesthetic blight to let him know he had made it.
Dom tried to lift a hand and it felt like his skin had been replaced by sand paper. The muscles in his body frayed and tore like dry rotten fabric. He knew the damage had already been done, the pain was just finally getting through to his brain.
Cool lips pressed against his. No, it was the rubber seal of a water bottle. He bit down on it and his teeth almost sliced straight through it before cold water started flowing into his mouth. His outstretched arms fell back to the ground and he tried to blink the tears from his eyes. She was with him, holding the bottle.
“They really messed you up this time, didn’t they?” she asked. Her words were as cool as the water and calm.
Dom strained, trying to make out the familiar face above him. He stopped biting the rubber and swallowed. “I tried to not take it all this time. Got the dose wrong I guess,” he whispered. Even the mere movement of speaking was enough to make it feel like his body had been covered in ants.
>>46833360
Reading the doc all the way through for the first time, seems okay, though ADAM, EVE, EDEN and Horsemen (and to a lesser extent, Blight) seems a little on the nose.
The prologue also slightly implied something about EVE that made me a little confused when the City Coordinator AI is mentioned, but that might just be me. Though really, I like
>Dom was bleeding to death in the middle of the night and no one knew.
as an opening a lot more.
"Cared" replacing "knew" might be even better, but then Dom seems like a guy some people care about, so maybe that wouldn't work
>>46834304
holy shit, how deep are you? ADAM is mentioned... ah, I foreshadowed that in chapter 3
As for Cared/Knew, I have to go with Knew because Eve cares, she just didn't know. I'm hesitant to say "no one cared" because I don't want the reader to have the impression that the unemployed drug addict bum he actually is.
You know, if I put time stamps on the opening to every chapter, I could conceivably make the prologue chapter 2 and push everything down a chapter. That might turn out better.
>>46834398
>time stamps on the opening to every chapter
Better idea!
I time stamp with a countdown to thedestruction of EDENin the finale
>>46834398
>>46834436
Sounds good - a hook really helps, and the protag nearly dying, though it's slightly cliché at this point, is a pretty good way to go about it.
X Days (optional Hours Mins) to [euphemism-day] would probably work.
I went to the bottom.
Given you're serious about getting it published, have you considered editing services?
Anons and forum randos are cheaper, but we're also more likely to call you a faggot
>>46834755
ugh, too sunny, everyone knows there are only two weathers: rain and night
>>46834647
Ive thought about it. The struggle is finding someone i can both afford and who i feel is genuinely better at editting than I am. And preferably in the Detroit area so ican see and pay in person
Also Im probably going to rename EDEN to Bastion.
>>46832902
>They have a WILDLY better safe-driving record than humans do.
Because there are so few of them. Re-check the rates when there are 3 billion autonomous cars on the road alongside 3 billion human drivers.
>>46834862
>Because there are so few of them.
We're talking rates per capita, not flat rates. There are orders of magnitude more accidents per human-driven car than there are per computer-driven car.
They're better at driving than people are.
The only reason people think they're not-shit at driving is because they've never had an alternative to be compared against before now.
>>46817966
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>>46817066
time for some attention whores more like it
>>46834848
Authors tend to like other authors, find some that you like and email them on how they did it.
Maybe add your work, maybe not.
For the thread in general I'm just going to post links, pdfs and pics
When Gravity Fails
http://www.fiction2.com/when-gravity-fails-online-george-alec-effinger
>>46834897
>We're talking rates per capita, not flat rates. There are orders of magnitude more accidents per human-driven car than there are per computer-driven car. Rates for extremely small sample sizes are often highly misleading and cannot be applied at larger scale.
Read up on the hasty generalization fallacy and the law of small numbers. There are insufficiently large numbers of autonomous cars on the road to make any rational predictions of their actual rates when they are operating at several orders of magnitude larger numbers across the world in uncontrolled conditions.
>They're better at driving than people are.
They may be, but you can't deduce that as fact from the current small, experimental numbers. Furthermore, in order to work in tandem they'll have to work in a system to avoid the suboptimization problem, and that can lead to catastrophic systemic failures that are very rare for human drivers. The system as a whole (for 100s of millions of autocars) may be less efficient than a few individual autocars. And you can bet your ass they'll be networked together, for several important reasons.
>>46834897
What's the sample size though?
Not saying you're wrong, but a low sample size helps the numbers a lot
>>46834970
>>46835000
There are nearly a million self-driving cars on the road right now, and they're obsessively monitored for this kind of thing, meaning they would have, if anything, an even more reliable report rate for driving accidents.
The sample size is more than large enough, and all - and I mean literally 100% - of the volumes and volumes of data collected points to them not just being SLIGHTLY better than human drivers, but several orders of magnitude better. I'm talking a thousandth the number of traffic accidents per capita across the same spans of time.
These assumptions that there's only a handful on the road and that we can't draw any data from them as a result is beyond absurd. It would have been true three or four years ago, but stopped being true since then.
Computers are better drivers than people, to the point that you being behind the wheel should be considered an insurance hazard.
>>46835065
>nearly a million
Can I get a source?
Seriously, I'm looking, and I can't find any totals or numbers for self-driving cars.
Seeing as they can't yet go anywhere that's not been extensively mapped, and have difficulty with anything that's not good weather - from google's own site, they've driven 1.5 million miles (in sunny-ass places, no less), and they're said to have the largest fleet
Gibson's first published work
>>46834114
“Just try and sleep it off,” she said, putting her hand on top of his.
Their fingers entwined together as Dom tried to rouse himself. “No, no I can’t sleep. No!” he shouted as he fell back into the vision. His boots hit the grating with a clang loud enough to be heard over the waves. Nature itself was in turmoil as the op fell apart. The supp was in his mouth, the hard capsule resting between cheek and teeth. He couldn’t leave it in the pouch. If he needed it, he’d need it and wouldn’t have the time to dig it out.
He ran it to the other side of his mouth as he ran across the exposed platform. Beams of light swept over him and locked on. Gunshots cracked off near constantly, as if he was surrounded by ever crackling lightning. Glass shattered and lights failed one after another. His radio exploded with curses from half a dozen dead languages as a surge of water washed over the platform.
Dom threw himself into a roll, slamming into a steel bulkhead with his shoulder. The water washed away, leaving a form of steel. The drone lifted itself up on the grating, standing like a colossal snake. The plated body curved down into darkness, disappearing the waves. He could only guess how long it was. The head turned, swinging bulbous camera lenses across the station. A Jormungandr.
There was a thump of air and an explosion where his overwatch was. “Take out the operators!” his commander ordered as the weaponized fangs of the drone swung in search of new targets. They were designed to take out other drones, but the EMP-Twinned explosives were just fine in atmosphere.
>>46835852
A red arrow appeared in his vision, overlayed on reality through his neural implant. Dom turned, shouldering his rifle. He rose and ran when the drone looked away from him. Dodging between structural beams and pipes, he closed in on the target. Dom swore, adding English to the radio babble. He skidded to a stop bringing his weapon to bear on the security guard. His breath escaped him, and he pushed the supp out from between his teeth. Three flechettes were pinned to his chest, nailing him to the wall and painting the grating red.
To his side was the arrow, the catatonic operator. Huronian was forty years in the past for neural implants. Dom’s stomach twisted as he looked at the myriad cables reaching like tentacles from the control terminal to the man’s shaven skull. Leathery plastic had replaced his skin, covered in instructional tattoos.
The man’s head rolled back, his mouth gaping. Across his face was a blinding mask alight in the darkness. The visual feed was bright enough that Dom could see the glow through the man’s pale face. Dom lowered the rifle on the man and hesitated. Another grenade went off and he fired, killing the man.
The grate beneath Dom’s feet erupted as he was thrown into the air. The steel encasing his boots was the only thing that saved him as the explosion ripped apart the night. The comm link in his ear exploded from the EMP, blowing out his right side hearing. Then he was on his back, with another Jormungandr atop him.His hands were on either mandible, prying them away from him.
He bit through the supplement and bile filled his mouth. He swallowed and fire filled his veins.
His boot planted into the base of the metal beast and shoved. He didn’t release his grip, tearing the weapons off in showers of electricity. He rose, and swung at the drone and his fist slammed through the construction foam of his apartment wall.
“Dom! Dom, stop!” she shouted, grabbing onto him from behind, wrapping her arms around him.
>>46835874
So, as I continue with this, I want to know whether this short is even making sense? Are you able to follow it? I'm being kind of experimental with the narrative flow and need another opinion on whether it's sane.
>>46836857
It's going okay, though he "pushed the supp out between his teeth" and then 3 paragraphs later he bites it.
Also "killing the man" seems a bit unnecessary, he's a killer with his rifle to a guy's head, what's he going to do?
Lastly, it took a few reads to realise that the "form" in "The water washed away, leaving a form of steel." was a body - might be the ordering, "The water washed away, leaving a steel form on the deck" or even less oblique, like "The water washed away, revealing an amphibious drone"
>>46833153
given that it's straight-up telescopic there's probably some cosmetic masking so it's not just a borg face
>>46831893
It's those damn Chinese and their designer plagues.
>>46827842
Thanks.
Thinking about surveillance and modern cyberpunk, and netrunner (because it’s how I won my last game), the game has a representation of being under surveillance, the tag. They’re fairly easy to shake off, but when tagged the corp can do a lot to make life miserable for you.
The surveillance on you could increase, becoming harder and more expensive to shake off – they can leverage the judicial system to give them the right to do so at any time, even if you’ve done nothing.
Your contacts or sources of income can dry up and disappear at any time. Sometimes silently, one at a time, sometimes explosively. Some people won’t even work with you and will cut you off, just on principle. Worst of all, some can be convinced you’ve betrayed them and seek revenge.
They can use the threat of completely isolating you to blackmail away any moral support you might have from the public.
Your rig can get hijacked by malware, or your programs targeted directly, making you lose valuable software.
One corp division can know every option immediately open to you, easily using it to know what you can do next
Your credit accounts can be sucked clean of cash
They could leverage monitoring you to achieve their goals, your every move furthering their agendas, making their research more valuable or even using your intrusions as an opportunity to test their systems for considerable gains
They can give your information to freelancers and use them to do most of the things on this list faster and more efficiently.
They can prepare almost any operation they need to deal with you and announce it, using their media dominance to appear as the “good guys”
They can record you for "reality media", ruining privacy and making them money
A vehicle you're in could crash "unexpectedly"
You could be pursued by a private security force, or a dedicated response team
Corp ice, fed on data, can be much stronger
Or the corp might go for broke and your building, or even your block, will explode
So what's the origin of skintight sneaking suits in cyberpunk? I thought that was more relegated to raygun sci-fi.
>>46838876
They crop up a lot in spy stuff, I guess, so infiltrators in anything modern or near-future get saddled with them a lot unless they're going for ultra-realism.
And the Major from GitS is a big inspiration in cyberpunk, so anything can be referencing her and have it
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>>46838876
Dang Motoko got the big robot baps
>>46833061
>>46833035
>>46832893
>>46833000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqe6S6m73Zw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK0SrxBC1xs
>>46838876
because cyberpunk is an offshoot of older scifi.
>>46839097
also this, except you have the GitS thing backwards.
>>46840061
>except you have the GitS thing backwards
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>>46838876
>Origin of skintight sneaking suits
Probably from... skinsuits
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_activity_suit
The Japanese took any excuse they could get to put girls into skin-tight clothes and it hung around as a trope ever since.
>>46815098
>When you forget your sandbags at home but it doesn't matter
>>46832841
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>>46832902
There has been debate whether self-diving car should prioritize protecting primarily people inside of the car or focus on minimizing overall casualties because that's "utilitaristic" and best for the overall good of people as a whole.
Simplified example - lone person rides over narrow bridge above deep chasm, as he's about to leave the bridge, two kids walk onto the road at the other end of the bridge, it is too sudden to stop the car before getting to them. Should the car go over the kids or fall off the bridge with the person inside?
The debate is, as far as I know, not concluded toward either decision, but it's a thing to watch out for. Obvious catch is that the "utilitaristic" approach can easily punish driver for mistakes of the other people in the traffic.
There's also the thing with possible hacking/hijacking of the car, but I'd say it's no more of a risk than somebody fucking up your car the old fashioned way because they needed a spare part or scrap metal to sell and pay for their next fix.
>>46820790
This is quite decent, if I have to nitpick, the part with evil CEO lady and countryside was a bit too cartoonish for my tastes. Instead of entirely make belive city of Unylsk, they should go with real Ukrainian or Belorussian location to leave the reader with some rooting in reality.
>>46835065
No, that's wrong, there are not a million autonomous cars on the road right now. A million car-miles maybe.
>>46814911
Hello /tg/!
I'm a player in a Shadowrun game that started recently.
I decided to make a character who would plan heists and be a general clever person at burglary.
However, I noticed that I'm more of a chaotic improviser. Do you guys have any tips on how to roleplay a strategic planner in the Shadowrun universe? Thanks in advance!
>>46842743
Ask the Shadowrun thread.
Gather data. Loads of data.
Have multiple backup plans.
Have diversions
Try and have multiple avenues of escape
Always try and work out who's going to win and lose if you complete a job - follow the money
Be ready for your Johnson to betray you
Expect things to go wrong
Be ready for the target to be worth both a lot less or a lot more than you thought
Consider running multiple sides, or trying to find multiple people who want a job done.
Do not get caught doing that.
Consider the value of helping someone prevent a robbery - that you would do, or so you know the layout
Your rep is extremely important
Be cool, business is business (and action is action)
Never deal with a dragon
>>46838876
Fetishes. Literally it.
If it were for absolutely any other reason at all, you'd see an equivalent number of males in skintight sneaking suits. But because it's a fetish element, you don't.
>>46841651
Google just recently hit a million autonomous driven miles, iirc.
But their dataset is fucking useless. They run the cars in an area with majority fair weather year round (not significant amounts of rain, no excessive fog, no snow) and is primarily upper crust and suburban (very well maintained and spacious roads with reasonably high but not excessive speeds). It's literally the perfect situation for an autonomous car to run in.
>>46842743
Oh, and fuck of with exclamation marks, they make you look like a cunt or a child
>>46843051
About 1.5 mil, but you are completely correct with the rest.
On the other hand, you don't test something like that by trying to do the Arc De Triomphe on its first day, but it's hardly great
>>46843038
I must be slowly going braindead, I could've sworn I searched for a Shadowrun thread.
Those are good advice though, thanks anon.
>>46843066
I don't know why I typed exclaimation marks, for some reason I was trying to appear happy online, which is ironical seeing how fucking sad I actually am.
>>46835874
His taut muscles softened at her touch and he sagged back into the bed. He didn’t recall getting there and didn’t know if he had stumbled there of his own or if she had carried him. He groaned in pain and reached over to reset half his fingers. Without the steel reinforcement, his body couldn’t sustain the supps.
“Okay, no sleep for you until this is out of your system,” she said, leaning over his shoulder to smile at him. He could just barely see her smile in the glow from the window. Across the street from their apartment was a five meter display screen for Shinra. Propaganda and advertisements flowed across it in steady pulses, day and night. Right now it gave the room a soft yellow hue.
Dom smiled back at her and reached up to touch her hair. The dye was almost completely grown out now. What had once been a defiant purple was now only lingering in her tips. “When did this start growing out?”
She smiled, leaning down on him as he eased back into the bed. “If we ever saw each other in daylight, you would have noticed a lot sooner. I haven’t died it since we fled,” she said. She frowned at the last bit. “Dom, you can’t keep doing this.”
Dom stifled a groan and sank down. He was leaning on her, using her soft body to support himself. Her body wasn’t soft anymore though. He barely recognized the naïve city girl he’d once met. “We’ll be shot for treason if we go back. Where are we supposed to go? One corp or another rules all of the Sprawl. We could never get on the Jing Line without being stopped. Working for Shinra has to be better than the Guilds, right?”
Her arms pulled off of him as he spoke, and she twisted to lean her back against his. His mind distracted itself for a moment as he felt the hard edge of her bra’s latch against his spine. “We can go back to California somehow,” she said, pulling her knees up against her chest.
>>46843410
Dom’s head sank down till his chin rested against his chest. He needed to shave, the rough hair scratched his inflamed skin. “We’ll be shot.”
“We can’t stay here. You’ll die either from the drugs or from the fighting,” she said, rolling her head back till it was resting on his shoulder.
Dom picked his head up and chuckled. “I’m a soldier, what did you expect to happen to me?”
She didn’t laugh as well. He felt her head slide down his shoulder and when he turned, she was staring into his eyes. “It’s not much of an escape if you’re going to die in the process. And what do you think will become of me after you kick it? Dom? Dom, stay with me,” she said, grabbing onto him again.
Darkness pulled her away from him in a sapping tunnel. He was falling. He reached out and his and found hers. For a moment he could feel water spraying on his face and he didn’t know whether it was sea or blood. The four chambers of his heart pounded like nitrous fueled pistons. Iron was in his mouth but this time it was his own blood, not the drug.
But he could still feel her fingers in his. He clamped his eyes shut and exhaled, forcing his body to calm. When he opened them again, he was still in his apartment with her. “I’m here, I’m here,” he said with a weak smile.
“I’m calling them. They have to stop giving you this fucking drug,” she declared, standing up and marching from the bed.
“No, stop,” Dom said, tryig to hold onto her, to keep her on the bed with him. She slipped out of his fingers easily. “They don’t make me take it. They just make me have it. I’m the one who makes the decision to take it,” he explained, watching her walk over to the video phone in the wall. His body temperature swung and crashed. Suddenly the sweat on his body was ice cold. “I take it because I’m afraid if I don’t, I won’t make it back to you.”
>>46843410
>>46843434
I've spotted 2 mistakes, and one bit that doesn't really work:
"Darkness pulled her away from him in a sapping tunnel" - that could be expressed so much better, imho
This is draft quality, right?
Burning Chrome - Gibson
http://pastebin.com/zvmCZhNJ
I've got most of the short story collection from the book, if there's any others people want.
Pretty Boy Crossover - Pat Cardiagn
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bzy1xzxa-BxyVmFhUl9qcGg4WGs
Another short
>>46843579
>>46843579
>This is draft quality, right?
What did you think it was?
I'm literally posting as I write it. Hence the massive gaps.
>>46840488
The free market will favor the people inside of the vehicle. When given the choice of either purchasing a car that protects everyone else on the road or a car that protects the car's occupants? The driver will buy the latter every time, unless there's an absolutely astounding insurance discount for the former.
That's obvious to the point of not even being worthy of discussion, let alone debate.
>hacking
>no more of a risk than somebody fucking up your car the old fashioned way
Pretty much. And more importantly, you can already more or less do that with non-self-driving cars now too, because of how computerized they are.
Unless you stick to driving a car from the 20th century, you're not going to find many hacker-proof cars - and the ones from the 20th century are a LOT more susceptible to things like having the doors jimmied open and the ignition hotwired.
It's not a thing where there's one solution that's in any meaningful way less vulnerable than the others. Not that it matters, because there really won't be many dudes trying to exploit those vulnerabilities in a way that meaningfully impacts you, because reality is actually boring and simple, rather than being the type of cyberpunk to actually write stories about.
How would a cyberpunk bard work? Never liked how rockerboys worked, crowds and community influence seemed weird to me.
>>46852297
Rockerboys are really the only way you can bard in Cyberpunk. What's wrong with them?
>>46852297
Seems like the bardic roles could be represented by Face stuff, but the larger-scale stuff, that seems like something that people who are social-media famous could pull off, if you do the standard cyberpunk thing of exaggerating current trends - though having it in person would definitely help, leaving a space for the rockerboys of classic cyberpunk
Heh, I have that saved as "actually a photo"
>>46836857
That is incredibly silly gun.
Not for the reason you're thinking, cuz it is, in fact, a real gun. It's the standalone rig for a MasterKey. Just a dildo with picatinny rails and a stock (which she seems to have removed) that allows you to attach a cut down 870.
The MasterKey rig was made to slap a shotgun on under the barrel of an AR for breaching ops, but someone decided to build it a stand alone configuration because, I don't know, what if you had a shotgun with nothing to strap it too? Still kinda stupid IMO, but whoever drew this knows his exotic hardware.
>>46857558
I was thinking it's silly because it's feeding from a god damn Calico helical magazine.
>>46857757
But that's not a Calico mag. It's pic related.
This was an awesome thread. This is supposed to be a Cyborg Batgirl.
>>46843434
His words didn’t stop her, if anything it made her move faster. His gaze dropped down her back and to the thin sheets. The crumpled up between his fingers as he tried to pull them around himself for a shred of warmth. It seemed like they weighed as much as the Jormungandr, and he recalled the Jormungandr weighing as much as sheets when he was in the grips of the supp.
“Give me Li,” she ordered, her face bathed in the deep blue light of the vid monitor. The screen cycled and idled, the computer trying to automatically reroute her, but Li, Dom’s handler, appeared.
He appeared on the wall opposite her from the shoulders up. Dom would have thought he was a clone for his inhumanity, but clones couldn’t live past their twenties. Agent Li was simply the kind of man with something wrong in his head. The kind of determined psychopath able to channel his focus into his work. He gave the impression of a man who never slept, was always prepared. The small hours of the morning when humans cease functioning properly were hours he spent in the gym, refining his body to a fetishistic degree of self-perfection. His hair was give the same meticulous care, carefully groomed back into a knot reminiscent of an old samurai. Not a single hair ever seemed to be astray.
Li looked back at her from behind eyes as dead as glass. He had no real expression, no emotions to display. The man’s face had formed into a mask that never changed, except in the rare uptwist of smug satisfaction. There was no satisfaction as he looked at her, and beyond to Dom. “Does he need EMS?” There was no worry in his voice.
More future-noir than pure cyberpunk, but a good introduction to Android's fairly cyberpunk universe
>>46859071
Huh. Why the hell does that exist.
>>46865466
So you've got a compact breacher shotgun attachment, but you'll be operating in a really confined space.
So fuckign confined, you don't even need to bring the gun along, just the shotgun.
But you've only got the attachment.
Now you have a mini-shotgun, instead of buying a whole new gun
>>46818823
Personally I always liked doing psychic powers starting to appear, lends itself some extra fun to a setting
>>46867929
>>46865466
They had them in inventory and nobody wants to use them. They add a fuckton of annoying weight to a gun for something you very infrequently use, that straight up impedes your ability to shoot.
So, are sub-sonic, magnetically accelerated flechettes a good idea for stealth missions?
Shape them like T's, so they pierce whatever they hit, but don't continue on to the next thing.
>>46838555
>Censored in the image
>Not on the Spybot's monitor
>>46831893
Most of the land is garbage though which is why the government has been happy to dish it back to the indigenous.
>>46872955
Assuming they're being fired from some sort of crossbow style firearm so they can fit through a barrel, still no. Problem with that shape is that you're going to totally fuck up the aerodynamics so they're likely to go off in a random direction instead of where you're aiming. Plus if the projectile is going fast enough it's just going to leave a slightly larger hole is the dude you're aiming at.
>>46875851
should have said *so they don't have to fit through a barrel.
Will cute drones exist in our future, cyberpunk or otherwise?
>>46875851
Flechette rounds usually have a sabot, so you can put them down a normal barrel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabot
>>46875851
You can mechanically deploy the "fletching", and shape the fletching such that it doesn't fuck up the trajectory
>>46875707
why would a spybot have an active screen on it anyway
>>46880266
Shadowrun?
>>46815098
nice footrest
>>46827044
link related:
https://desustorage.org/tg/thread/14974655/
meddling with forces man was not meant to touch, etc.
>>46834223
>someonesfetish.jpg
