I'll start
>>46648502
To be fair, the Lion was never referred to as having strong interpersonal skills or devoid of obsessive-compulsive disorder.
>>46648502
>Lion was a faggot who cooped up in his mancave for 10,000 years because his father didn't love him enough
>HH somehow ruined this compelling, world-changingly amazing character
Yeah, no fuck off
>>46648502
>>46648727
>>46648789
They ruined him by taking an ambiguous character who's loyalty was never certain and turning him into TEH MOST LOYEL OF DEM ALL!!!
>>46648502
Is it true Jonson is really a gay?
>>46648932
Except that's how he saw himself, which is meaningless. His actions fuck over everyone around him, especially other loyalists.
>>46648949
Stop getting your 40k info from memes.
>>46648932
Oh, you're a LE LION ES LE TRAITOR LE LUTHER ES THE LOYALEST retard. Your opinion is invalid.
By the way retard, the source of "ambiguity" came from a Black Library book mongs like you took as gospel. Don't pick and choose your "canon".
>>46648991
>Named after Lionel Jonson a noted fag poet
>Lionel Jonson wrote The Dark Angel, a poem detailing Jonson's struggles with his homosexuality (Also seen with El'Jonson struggling with his loyalty)
>The Rock, the Dark Angels fortress monistary takes it's name from an actual gay bar down the road from Games Workshop's original HQ
Yeah, Jonson is totally straight...
>>46649028
you are so fucking mad right now
>>46649043
Prove it.
>>46648502
EVERYONE was ruined by the HH
>>46649102
Wow, that was fucking hard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Johnson#Life
>>46649028
>Don't pick and choose your "canon"
>Canon is frequently contradicting
>Don't pick and choose it
>>46649183
>>46649028
to be fair no canon fluff show that Lion is a traitor
even in BL Gav Thorpe books the Fallen were full of shits
Luther has repent and waiting for Lion to forgive him there is no contradicting in that
>>46648502
Wouldn't this have been easier op?
>>46649301
>Dark Angel Chaplin admits to fallen member "You were right"
N-NO THAT DOESN'T COUNT, THE DARK ANGELS ARE SUPER LOYAL
Russ was/is a cunt.
>>46650219
you should really read that book you're sperging hard over, anon - you DO know what Boreas was referring to, right? NOT any notions of past treachery, no no. He was referring to something else.
Idiot.
Besides which, as this anon>>46648978
correctly states, the 'uber loyalty' you are wanking over is only in the Lion's head.
Moron.
Get better - you suck at this.
>>46648932
>an ambiguous character who's loyalty was never certain
>literally named after a guy who struggled with something but never fell to it because he thought it was wrong
Wow, color me fucking surprised he stayed loyal.
Also, why are people so mad he was loyal? I'm pretty sure that it was only ambiguous about the whole thing back in the earliest days. For the longest while, and well before the HH books about him, it's been pretty clear what went down on the Rock with Luther and who was loyal. Also that 'The Most Loyal of them All" bullshit is a meme that needs to die, he is loyal and views it as his own reward, but I don't doubt that the other loyalists felt the same way. The Lion is just totally unwilling to betray his father, even though he wanted to be Warmaster and didn't agree with all the things Big-E did.
