ITT: trash that /tg/ thought was good
>>46537487
The card hasn't even been legal a week, slow down
>>46537634
>"I pre-ordered for $20, please fuck me in the ass some more familia"
>>46537634
It hasent been legal a day don't you mean
>>46537487
The set only just came out how could you possibly know that
Sure it's not that great in this set but combined with the other standard sets it could still prove to be great.
>>46537487
its great in my casual edh :^)
>>46537487
>trash that /tg/ thought was good
What, you mean magic the gathering?
>>46538762
I feel like edh is a format it would be really weak in
>>46539087
You do not feel alone.
>>46538936
If you're not here for MtG then what the fuck are you here for? Rolling dice and pretending to be a transvestite dwarf mage while some fat autist sprays cheeto infused spittle everywhere and tells you you're playing it wrong?
>>46539087
Put it in a creatureless or creature-lite spellslinger deck and watch it work as a telegraphed boardwipe w benefits. It either eats a removal or does amazing things.
>>46539474
>MtG cucks making fun of other peoples' hobbies
>>46539539
>look mommy I'm a wizard
>>46539505
I don't understand the benefit of it eating removal if you're going creature light/less. It's not like the removal is wasted on it. In fact it's far less likely to do something in that kind of deck because previously dead removal in your opponent's hand suddenly gets value when you drop one.
>>46539556
>says the player of the game literally based around Wizards casting spells at each other
>>46539474
As someone that enjoys both MtG and Tabletop I can confirm that MTG is the hobby where 85% of the other players I met were overweight autists while 30% of the DnD players I played with were Airforce, and the rest were assortment of authors, artists, government workers, and designers. Oh and one guy that flips burgers.
>>46539474
>if you're not here for DnD what the fuck are you here for? Spending $1500 on cardboard being hoarded by Jews so a fat autist can spray cheeto infused spittle at you and tell you how your format of choice is shit and if you were playing (better format) he would have stomped you?
>>46539566
True. Yeah, it's niche. Maybe it can take pressure from your commander. Then again, if your commander isn't a horror... Yeah that's a weird one. Maybe save it until you have resources to get into a counterspell war.
This thread reminds me of RuseCruise and how it will never see play and people banking on it were delusional.
>>46537487
It looks like it'd pair well with Morph, denial, or land destruction.
Are those just not in SOI?
>trash that /tg/ thought was good.
This thread.
>>46540110
Nobody ever thought this was good
>>46539582
Yeah. Magic at my local scene has several That Guys while Warhammer just has a few Fat Guys.
>>46539582
85% is a bit harsh. At the ~6 LGS'ses ive been so far there were like 5% complete utter neckbeards and 10% just weird people. But yeah, its still prettty high compared to any other hobby. oh wait, force of will is actually worse
>>46540053
There's a bit of land destruction mostly self destruction though
There is a viable spellslinger deck that can flip it turn 4 with 3 mana to spare
Someone thought this was good. It's great.
>T1 Forest+hardened scales
>T2 Land+Sylvan advocate
>T3 land+hydra
>T4 ???
>T5 profit
>>46540990
There has never been a bad hydra
>>46541023
Primidorial hydra might be the bad one. It's probably a 1/1 or 2/2 or 3/3 when it comes out so any burn spell can pop it.
>>46541023
>What is Rock hydra
>What is Molten Hydra
>What is Balduvian Hydra
>What is Ancient Hydra
>What is Spitting Hydrathey all are mono red
>>46540990
the spell that will be cast is a cheap removal spell on your shit hydra
>>46541606
Then why run creatures when everyone will just get rid of them with the seemingly endless amount of removal? Besides, I run U/B.
>>46541638
because you can play a creature that in an immediate threat not something that just sits around being worthless until your opponent finally wants to removal spell it
give that thing hexproof and maybe it isn't garbage tier
>>46538660
I don't own any copies of thing in the ice
>>46539582
>tfw one of the only people in my universities DnD club that works
>mfw i'm not even in the uni, I just got introduced through a friend and they don't mind me coming along as my characters are always helpful (combat monsters) or actual characters (either stereotypes or character designs I actually play out in character and voice/roleplay with).
Most of them are autists or welfare queen professional students studying bullshit degrees that will get them nowhere but 4 years behind me when I leave my supermarket job (only 22) with 4 years experience and get a better job in either management or something interesting,
>>46541656
>Cast it with hardened scales in play
>Anyone plays a single spell
>3/3 trample
>Play a instant to block a removal spell
>7/7 trample
>casts a spell on your turn
>9/9 trample
>>46541735
>playing hardened scales
>>46541778
>Playing a card that increases 1/1 counter production
>In a deck centered around 1/1 counter production
How retarded.
>>46541716
>expecting 4 years at walmart to get you anywhere.
literally the only job you'll be qualified for until you die.
>>46537487
I'm glad it's underperforming, I'd like to get some as bulk rares for casual magic eventually.
>>46542593
Just be glad it is not a mythic, or else it would be Master of the Wild Hunt 2.0.
Has anyone drafted SOI yet? Going to a draft tonight and only have the prerelease experience under my belt. W/R humans/redwolves seems good, as well as investigate. Delirium was literally nothing in the prerelease, but maybe it's better in draft? Madness seemed ok, but too delicate to be consistent.
>>46537487
Yeah, M:tG is trash that should have died years ago and that the spergs here will defend to their dying breath. Congratulations on you realizing that.
>>46537487
So much potential...just wasted.
>>46539474
For card game discussion of games that aren't dying of old age?
>>46542465
I'm not american. Having a solid line up of experience full stop over some shitbird that's only ever worked as a burger flipper for a few months is what moves people forward in my country.
We don't hire people just because of their degree. You need to prove you're capable of working in a workplace environment before getting the privilege of a better paying job.
>>46537487
It never transformed for me or anyone else who had it at my prerelease but it was a decent blocker with potential. Hard to say. I was a lucky fuck with two Relentless Dead (one foil) so I never really came to rely on it.
>>46542896
oh you're here for the card games that are dying of nobody cares weeb
>>46542896
Everything else was stillborn.
> no store in a two hour travel radius has shadows today
Reeeeeeeeishouldajustorderedonlinebutwhatevereeeeee
>>46542868
wait are you telling me that people don't think Siphon is good/the meta has changed so drastically that Siphon is bad?
>bought a 36 booster display box
>total value of cards is barely 35% of what I paid
Welp. I did it for the experience of opening a shitload of boosters like I always wanted to do as a kid, but never again.
>>46542911
I'm an american and if people hired me just because I had a degree I wouldn't still be looking for a job after 9 months
>>46537487
skin invasion, two drop red wolfy, and bug man all go great with Titi and a bunch of instant/sorceries.
>>46543690
This set is pretty terrible for value.
>>46537487
>>46544903
You've really never played a proper wall deck have you?
>>46544925
LOL
i know /tg/ is casual as fuck but cmon
>>46544820
>judging a set's value on release day
>>46543690
You never do that shit unless you really love the set or are a store owner.
>>46544991
>not playing wall of denial in this deck
this guyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Quick rulings question. Can I wait to play the copy created by pic in a later phase on the same turn or would it fizzle if I don't play it on the upkeep phase?
>>46542868
Are you fucking high?
>>46545166
You have to cast it as part of the resolution of the upkeep trigger.
>>46545179
But sorceries can't be cast during the upkeep, or am I mistaken.
>>46545220
The copy is cast/put on the stack as part of the resolution of the trigger (after trigger resolved, the copy's the highest item on the stack before anyone gets priority) so it doesn't matter whether it's a sorcery or not. See and compare: cascade.
>>46545220
no you're right about that, but wrong about everything else you've ever known
>>46545220
They can be cast as part of the resolution of a spell or ability
They are sorceries but you get to cast them at instant speed if a spell or ability specifically prompts you to cast it
To clarify, those spells ARE considered to be cast "as if they had flash" for the purposes of shit like teferi Mage of zhalfir, who will prevent your opponents' panoptic mirror from working due to his ability
>>46545220
Because you cast it as part of the ability's resolution, it doesn't follow the normal timing rules. Same reason you can cast a Madness creature if you're forced to discard it on your opponent's turn.
>>46543008
>It never transformed for me or anyone else who had it at my prerelease
Of course it's not gonna do shit in a fucking SEALED DECK tournament. That thing has "constructed" written all over it. And not just Constructed, but probably Legacy and Vintage constructed, where casting four instants is something you do normally by the second turn anyway.
>>46545081
I kinda do love the set and the game store I bought it from is one of my favorite places so I guess it's still a win/win. Just a little bit disappointed that I didn't get any rares (or mythics, I only got one mythic) that wowed me.
People with autism should be given their own board so everyone else can enjoy this game without them.
>>46546712
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>>46543291
>Checks Spellweaver's que time again.
Still under 20 seconds. Glad to see you are a dumb magic fag.
>cards everyone thought were trash but were actually broken as fuck
Reflect / Refrain
>>46546712
That's what /tg/ is though.
>>46543654
Not so much bad as it's not the answer to everything like /tg/ thinks it is. When used properly, it's pretty good. Otherwise, it makes a lot of decks worse.
>>46544713
Skin invasion is another one that tg thinks is great but is actually awful.
>>46546712
Aren't sites like 4chan, tumblr, and Reddit just containment sites in the larger scheme of the internet?
>>46547759
>Skin Invasion
>bad
On what planet? Skin Invasion eats early-game mana dorks for breakfast, and when I put it on my Thraben Gargoyle with a Gryff's Boon it locked out games.
>>46544903
That card would be brutal in tree deck
>>46548012
It can't eat a mana dork if they just use it to cast something pre-combat. Wouldn't work on Jace in Standard for the same reason, if it's a creature they can tap before declaring attackers Skin Invasion does nothing.
>>46539474
If you're on /tg/ to talk about magic you're in the wrong place, every magic thread in here is a toilet
>>46542686
Is wolf tribal viable in any format? It's always seemed like one of the most anaemic tribes that should be solid.
>>46548473
I think it might be worth brewing. But once you make a sideways deck, you're just comparing yourself to every other sideways deck. Werewolves will most likely be a worse aggro deck than Affinity/Burn/Zoo, and a worse tribal deck than Merfolk. I think it could be FNM viable, but that's it.
>>46548473
>Is wolf tribal viable in any format?
Nah. Too few good wolves, too few ways to create wolf tokens, too few cards that pump wolves.
I looked them up because I was trying to put support cards for Raised by Wolves into my draft cube. It pisses me off how it's such a flavor jackpot but they costed it at 5 instead of 4 so no one will ever use it. Good names should be reserved for good cards.
>>46541606
>using removal on a 1/1
>>46537487
You can run this and Jace in the same deck meaning your turn 2 play will most likely something they have to deal with. For aggro, you've got a decent wall they'll have to waste at least a turn and/or a spell to get rid of it. It's great in the mirror because your opponent is less likely to be able to counter it on his t2. Against midrange, again, they have to deal with it or their board is gone. This card will be absolutely bonkers I have no idea what OP is implying. At the very least it will stall you some turns while you can get your land drops.
>>46543690
>buying cards to sell
You're the cancer killing Magic.
>>46548943
Read the fucking post.
>>46548964
>caring about value
>not planning to sell
>>46549026
Value is super important whether you want to sell or not, because if you open a $100 box and get $36 in cards, it means you shouldn't have done that, you should have instead bought those cards for $36 and spent the rest on whatever else you want.
>>46545166
That thing is based
>>46537487
it might be okay in a more controllish delver
>>46541778
>not playing hardened scales
>>46544820
It's one of, if not THE best standard set for value at the moment. Probably will remain that way until it rotates.
>>46537487
Modern?
In my testing, this card can actually perform reasonably well in the sideboard of UR Storm in the mirror against an opponent on an Empty the Warrens plan. Also good against token decks, as the decks running this guy tend to benefit from the land off Path.
Card sucks against any deck that's just creatures and removal spells (i.e. GBx).
>>46539576
you mean creatures turning sideways at each other
>>46547927
More like they are the places where normies can cut loose; though I don't know too much about Reddit or Tumblr.
4chan used to be some sort of secret, inner circle thing, now it seems to be a household name.
>>46548921
It's pretty ass against aggro. I was playing my Standard WW deck earlier on XMage, and TITI wasn't really a problem when I faced Esper.
A wall doesn't hold back 3-4 2+ power creatures very well, and when it flips my stuff is so cheap I can dump it all on the board next turn and race your fatty.
Getting hit with an awakened Shambling Vent was much worse.
I could see it being annoying in the mirror though. At 2 mana it gets past all the Standard playable counterspells.
>>46549026
>>46549088
>Welp. I did it for the experience of opening a shitload of boosters like I always wanted to do as a kid, but never again.
Where did you read that the anon was expecting a return on investment? Where did you read that the anon was planning on selling? What the fuck do you not understand about READ THE POST
>>46545137
>wall of denial
>shroud
>target creature with defender
I'm sorry anon, I adore defenders too. But wall of denial cannot attack, and I have other ways to put big walls in the air.
>>46558495
It's implied that he's never going to do it again because he got only about 35% of what he spent doing it. If he didn't care about the return on investment then he would probably be willing to do it again.
>>46556155
The point isn't that it's going to stay on the board against aggro, the point is that it's going to save you some turns. Longer the game goes the more likely you are to win. Think about when Sylvan Caryatid was legal. Depending on the situation (in this example if you had the mana to cast Courser turn 3) you can afford to block a power 2 creature even if they decide to pump with Titan's. In the case of TITI you can do the same if you feel you need to or you can wait until next turn when you have a counter ready. You've got options and depending on what's in your hand you can make your decision. It's much better than the alternative, letting them getting free hits off with virtually no upside other than the fact you have more cards in hand which often times isn't going to win vs aggro
>>46548841
>too few cards that pump wolves.
Could be true, but I'm banking on Zada and Silverfur. Nomsayin?
