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"To our community,

Dungeons & Dragons stands by the stories our partners tell and we fully support the choices Beamdog has made in developing Siege of Dragonspear. Inclusivity is a core value of Wizards of the Coast and we believe that all people, regardless of ethnicity, background, gender identity or sexuality, should be free to play our games without fear of harassment or attacks. In July of 2014 we released the D&D Player’s Handbook for the fifth edition and included the following section as an example of our core values.

Sincerely,
Nathan Stewart
Director of Dungeons & Dragons"

Why do SJWs and feminists have to invade every refuge for white men. By the one of the guys in my DnD group is gay. He just isn't a flaming damn faggot that makes everything about he loves the cock.
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>>>/pol/
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>>46536959
>every refuge for normal men
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>2014
it's been that long since 5th edition?
Felt like it was released last week.
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Did I miss some shitstorm around Siege of Dragonspear?
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what the fuck is spear of dragonspear and why should I absolutely never ever care no matter what I'm told what it is
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>>46537174
It's Baldur's Gate one point five.
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>Told Nathan on Twitter that no one has a problem with Trans characters, but maybe they can try writing a better game.
>Spend the rest of the night flooded with SJWs insisting that if you don't like Amber Scott's writing, it's because you're prejudice.
>Why?
>Because everyone rails on her work and calls it shit. And she's a woman. And she writes trans characters. Thus, there must be a causation involved in that correlation.

I don't even know why I bother.
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This is mostly /v/ bullshit, really.
TLDR: some asshat decided the original Baldur's Gate needed an expansion 20 years later, so they made a bug-laden piece of crap, a true masterwork of terrible programming. It also, apparently, was scripted by/for stereotypical tumblr users.
It's stupid, but easily ignorable.
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>>46537150
>"Actually, it's about ethics in adventuring."
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>>46537224
The game is out already?
It seems like yesterday that I got the ad to pre-order it.
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>>46536959
>He just isn't a flaming damn faggot that makes everything about he loves the cock.
Kind of like how Dragonspear isn't all about that one tranny character you may or may not find out about?
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>>46537248
It's been out all week.

Don't bother, you'll drop it 2 hours in. It's dogshit. The fact that Beamdog literally had to remove a line of dialogue where Minsc says some anti-GG joke because of how shit it was should tell you all you need to know.
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>>46537268
You know damn well he refers to a character whose entirely identity revolves around being trans. That's not inclusivity, it's pandering, and downright insulting to some trans people.
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>>46537270
>Minsc says some anti-GG joke
Wait.

Okay, fuck it.
I don't care anymore. /v/ has ruined modern games by starting a war between nerds* and normalfags. I don't want to get into this mess anymore. Both sides are retarded, but I blame /v/ for starting it.

*in lack of a better word.
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>>46537314
/v/ didn't do shit except get pissed at the only thing they had to enjoy being co-opted and ruined from the inside by SJW shits who wormed their way into the entire infrastructure of development, press, and publishing, and colluded to demonize the entire hobby.
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>>46537342
>/v/ didn't do shit except
starting a major campaign called GG that gained a lot of traction and got into the news.

>the only thing they had to enjoy
Game reviews?
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>>46537354
>starting a major campaign called GG that gained a lot of traction and got into the news.
In response to the "Gamers are dead" message every news site was pushing, yeah.
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>>46537354
>>46537367
cant we just say that everyone who got involved in Gamer Gate is a retard?
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>>46537402
No argument from me.
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>>46537302
You have to actively go looking for it.

And besides, not all instances of shit writing and one-dimensional characters are SJW activism, geared towards ruining every 'refuge' for white men.
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>>46536959
Don't stress about it, OP. This'll be over by the end of the decade and we can go back to business as usual.
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>>46537425
>And besides, not all instances of shit writing and one-dimensional characters are SJW activism, geared towards ruining every 'refuge' for white men.

No, but they were when they come from Amber Scott. Because, you know, she literally says that's why she writes what she does.
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>>46537342
I-
...oh god, I can't believe I'm actually talking about this...
Look. Gamergate is over. Long over. Only two types of people still talk about it:
1)The goddamn internet crazies on the Pro-GG side, whose only effect during events was to serve as living embodiments of the strawmen used to attack GG.
2)The leftist puritans who ran the anti-GG side, because they need every boogeyman that they can find. (Most people like to toss around the phrase 'SJW' to describe them, but as a leftist non-puritan, I like more exacting phrases to describe the goddamn poison in my faction.)
Here's the thing - the leftist puritans are actually losing. GG had the intended effect. Online journalism outlets at least make the attempt at pretending they have ethics, which is better than it was before. (People are certainly more aware of their options.) Gawker got a sucking chest wound that it may never recover from. The Literally Who's have started moving into other fields to try and extort/con money from marks. Some games still kowtow to them, but less games do. The process is slow, but certainly moving in an obvious direction. This terrible, terrible game? It's doing horribly, because people are wise to the bs. The puritan crowd can yell all they want, but people are well aware what's really going on here. They're losing.
But that's all in /v/. In /tg/, well, honesty, it's not all that bad. Think back to two years ago - these idiots tried lying about the people who consulted on 5th Edition. And they got pushback. Heck, they got slapped the fuck down, in some cases. They've been entrenched as a faction in /tg/ for a long, long time, but their biggest bastions starting to crumble right now.
5th Edition had four people consulting on it - a Toronto Liberal, a Chicago Conservative, a Porn-Star Communist, and a Pipe-Smoking Fascist. The Puritans, oddly enough, hate the two fringiest of them. I love all four of them. I love that /tg/ has room to fit it all.
Sorry about all that.
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>>46537439
She's openly writing for an audience that isn't you. Big whoop. This is not an attack on some sort of 'refuge'.

Let people be shit in their own little spheres.
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>>46537314
>normalfags

tumblrcunts aren't normalfags
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>>46537489
>Toronto liberal
>leftist puritan
I never thought I'd see words I'd use to describe myself start making more sense in reference towards the block you're describing instead.

Weird.
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>>46536959
This post couldn't be shittier if I read it while I was taking a dump. Which I am.
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>>46537302
Always wondered how axial trans, gay, and minorities felt or tolerated it when a character's main defining trait I'd that aspect of them. Race, sexuality, and gender seem more like side notes rather than defining traits
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>>46536959
>>>/v/
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>>46537489
I'm not sure what the point of your post is.
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>>46537657
I have seen many trans folk bash the game for "tokenism" and say that they'd rather not have the shitty character just to pander to them if it takes away from the quality of the game.

I've seen just as many trans folk say "Fuck those people. They're idiots. Game is amazing and representation is necessary."
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>>46537657
It depends on their age and social background.
There's plenty of gay and trans people who make their sexuality their identity. They only go to gay bars, listen to gay musicians, have gay friends...
Of course, ideally it would be just a minor detail.
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>>46536959
Player builds his charcter around his or her sexuality and constantly mentions it. Day of the rope when?
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This is something that kind of bothered me about the whole SJW having transgender people in these kinds of fantasy settings. A lot of them present a world at medieval technology level with magic generally not in the hands of common folk, with the threat of death by violent monster incursion or starvation or other peasant problems a constant presence. How do people even manage to be transgender? Like I get people might have those feelings, but there are so many bigger things to worry about. Focussing on this one aspect for a character just seems like straight pandering. They can't even change their sex, really, they don't have the operations.
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>>46537729
You're only allowed to do that if you actually suck off the other players whenever they want.

That should be in the core rules.
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>>46537693
I had a conversation with someone about this, and the way I phrased it was: Would you put 'Trans person' as something you could roll on a random encounter table?

The answer is fucking no, you wouldn't. You'd write an actual NPC, and if that was part of their character, then it's just another detail. But it's not the important bit UNLESS YOU FUCKING TELL EVERYONE IT'S IMPORTANT.

The problem is, the people writing want to "normalize" this diversity shit, by making it more common to see these types of characters in games and media. But they want to do it by making sure that they go around saying "HAY GUIS IMMA DIVERSE CHARACTER LOOKIT ME!". Which is not fucking normal.
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>>46537741
>They can't even change their sex, really,
Magic.
In Baldur's Gate there is a belt that changes your gender.
In Baldur's Gate II there is a wild magic surge that changes it (permanently). It's possible to get locked into Aerie's romance path, turn into a girl and THEN impregnate Aerie.
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>>46537790
Aerie taking and being knocked up by futa cock fills me with conflicting feelings.
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>>46537790
>In Baldur's Gate there is a belt that changes your gender.
In the very first zone, mind you.
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>>46537224
This is the world we live in, Anon. You're going to have to accept that the modern world worships niggers and faggots. It's a crusade -- either you're on the side of the nigger- and faggot-worshipers, or you're The Bad Guy.
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>>46537402
I used to be pro GG but then I realized that I couldn't give less of a fuck about "ethics in games journalism" because I don't read that shit and neither does anyone with half a brain.
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>>46537823
Weren't you in the Kingsmen?
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>>46537858
Neither do I.

I just kinda don't appreciate the entire country calling me a piece of shit.
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>>46537875
>I don't appreciate
We have a place for whiny cunts with hurt feelings. It's called tumblr.
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>>46537875
That's why you antagonize people? So they don't call you names?
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Man, it's really easy to bait /tg/ into talking about /v/ and /pol/, isn't it?
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I don't know, but a character who takes up the task of adventuring and is saving up for a spell or potion to cure her gender dysphoria sounds like it could be an interesting backstory.
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>>46537812
2nd zone.
3rd zone if you count Candlekeep.
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>>46537924
It's the start to a character concept. If that's all you have, I'm going to reject your character, Tim.
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>>46537945
Of course, if the character wasn't just a minor NPC, that would just be a small part of what she was all about.
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>>46537923
fa/tg/uys have lots of opinions, if you give them an opportunity to express those opinions then they will do so without question. Every. Single Time.
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>>46537823
Europe is going to shit more and more "right wing" groups are popping up as the population gets pissed off at Merkel and her puppets. Shit is going to happen real soon could be a year from now or 5 or 10 but eventually people are going to snap.
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>>46537945
Come on, Dongus, you okayed Rick's character and he literally just wrote "Gimli" in the character biography section.
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>>46537986
No they won't. We're all too addicted to luxury.
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>>46537986
Merkel is a puppet too.
But otherwise yes. Europe is about to break into chaos. But I don't think I agree with you entirely on the causes.
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>>46537986
same thing in America desu

remember all those riots last year? people are just waiting for an excuse. i for one welcome the inevitable race war.
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>>46538025
>race war
Dance for your masters, puppet.

Utterly ignore the fact that this should be about class, not race.
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>>46538048
Jews pushs afircans and middle easterns into western nations, refuse to take economic refugees themselves. Fuck the Jews was the majority to be idiots a White or Asian race mixing with the other two result in dumber and more often then not violent children.
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>>46538087
>economic refugees
Don't you mean economic migrants?
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>>46537858

Wasn't the problem that the "games journalism" places they were talking about were sites they trusted, as opposed to the "games journalism" that's obviously in it for the money? Like, internet games journalism who don't need to give a shit vs. magazine games journalism who needs to suck developer dick in order to survive, or some shit like that?

I dunno, maybe I'm wrong.

>>46537894

Tumblr won't take him. He's on the wrong side.
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>>46538109
What I enjoy most about the GG debacle is watching the alt-right sleaze peddlers like Breitbart co-opt it and exploit their new malleable useful idiots.
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>>46538109
>the "games journalism" places they were talking about were sites they trusted,

>I'm going to buy this game because somebody on the internet told me that I should
You have only yourself to blame. If you want to make an informed purchase, pirate the game and try it out yourself first.
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>>46538105
I don't have my glasses and my eye sight is ass but yes.
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>>46537964

>t just a minor NPC

that's what gets me, it's a single blurp of dialog from some random nobody NPC but people are acting like they changed the entire game to be about the Bhaalspawn purging Faerun of the CIS scum or something. Hell some of the people here's complaints about it have more words in them than this "invasion" does.
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>>46538128

...well, you're not wrong...
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>>46538087
>result in dumber and more often then not violent children.
Because that has nothing to do with the government cutting funding for schools and economic stability, leading to ghettoization and a breakdown of the middle class.
No, it must be the genes. Caucasians have never been known for being warfaring or violent people. No, not us Caucasians.
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>>46538183
I guess you could say it triggered them.
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>>46538109
If you can't decide whether you want a game through watching gameplay footage and reading user reviews, then you deserve to get fucked over.
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>>46538200
>>result in dumber and more often then not violent children.
>Because that has nothing to do with the government cutting funding for schools and economic stability, leading to ghettoization and a breakdown of the middle class.
>No, it must be the genes. Caucasians have never been known for being warfaring or violent people. No, not us Caucasians.
Study after study showing the exact opposite a black child raised a white or asian middle class household still is dumber and less likely to be academically successfully.

>Race is a lie just like breeds of dogs are a lie. Pander to my feelings. Fuck off back to tumblr.
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>>46538226
>Study after study showing the exact opposite a black child raised a white or asian middle class household still is dumber and less likely to be academically successfully.
Which studies are these, then? And how do they guarantee that a black child in a white or asian middle class household gets the exact same treatment as a white or asian child in every environment outside of the household itself? And how do they account for normal individual variation? How large were their samples?

God, I hate social 'sciences'.
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>>46538258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfoKor05k1I
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>>46537402
>>46537858
I don't give two shits about ethics in any sort of business venture (so long as they operate within the law), but censoring 4chan (not to mention Reddit and all the other forums they moved to) is not fucking okay. I do give fucks about my rights, and anonymity is an important part of freedom of speech.
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>>46538338
>censoring 4chan
You spammers need to accept that 4chan was never a Freedom of Speech website. It was also never a political website.
Talking about politics o a video game board is a violation of the rules. If you don't like the rules, that's your problem, not the fault of the mods.
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>>46538205
Honestly the gameplay footage should be enough.

The user reviews will lie to you too, after all. Can't trust nobody.
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>>46538183
Fucking this.

Add to that all the people in this thread acting like they are rational, sensible people while they complain about a shit addon nobody cares about ruining "white man's sanctuary" and shouting niggerfaggots.

It's embarrassing. Fuck off /v/.
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...Why do you care?
Why do ANY of you care?
All you fucking have to do is literally nothing.
I want /pol/ to go and fucking stay go, for the love of God.
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You're going to pretend to be annoying immigrants in order to prove that immigrants are annoying? You're pathetic /pol/
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>>46538383
Ideally yes, but gameplay footage won't tell you if the game is too short or if it's pay-to-win or other such bullfuckery.
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>>46537114
Wait, 5e is out?
Last I heard of it, it still had this weird beta playtest that seemed to be going on for half a decade.
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>>46538383
The issue is that you'll want to kill yourself once you watch a Let's Play.
It's not a risk I want to take.

I miss the times where demos existed.
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>>46538338
Yeah, GG only blew up because of the MASSIVE censorship campaign.
It was literally impossible to find a big meeting ground for people who wanted to laugh at the Five Guys thing.
So it escalated.
Then /pol/ helped with false flag infographics that searched for connections where none were.

There was real shit being dug up, but everyone just focused on half-lies instead.
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>>46537224
These people are mentally ill, and they hold all the power. The sooner you accept that the sooner you will come to terms with our shitty new society.
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>>46538841
It's out. It's just 3.5 but with a couple of new ideas.
Healing surges work exactly like the 3aboos thought they did now, with hit dice giving you back random health.

It's shit.
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>>46537489
>Some games still kowtow to them, but fewer games do

Fixed that for you
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>>46537150
There's an NPC that's transgendered. Apparently trannies not existing is a huge part of a lot of people's idea of a fantasy world, so they raised a huge fuss about it.
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>>46536983

Seriously, you guys need to stop doing that. As a fair-minded liberal with traditional values, I'm honestly beginning to think that it's better to be racist and nationalistic than to embrace all kinds of weird fucked-up shit that liberals bring to the table.

I mean, I just want people not to be giant assholes to one another. But all this shit? It's disgusting. The SJWs and the feminists are less than animals.
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>>46539927

Well, yeah. There's no reason to have transsexuals in D&D games whatsoever. Why?

Because a PC should simply play the gender he wants to be. Want to be a girl? Sure, play as a female character. Now we don't have to deal with your weird sex stuff.

In-universe, any transgendered person who hasn't saved up enough money for a potion or belt of genderswap is simply not trying hard enough. They have no excuse.
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>>46539927
>who was chevalier d'eon?

If history has player characters d'Eon was definitely one of them
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>>46537489

Doesn't that just mean that Gamergate should press the advantage? When your enemy is down, you don't let him get up again. You kick him until his testicles rupture.

If we can turn the tide, we get to do the stomping.
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>>46540083
>we
Oh damnit.
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>>46540038
It's that attitude that leaves us open for attack.

Who cares if they want to snowflake the fuck out of their character?
It doesn't effect you.

Seriously?
Tell them "that's fine but I don't care" and what can they say?
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>>46538183

You also can't tell him to fuck off. There's no option except to be "Oh, good to hear it."

Can't I say "How about I cut your cock off, faggot, help you become a real woman?" or just "You're a disgusting fuckhead. You should eat shit and die."? I mean, something Evil would certainly respond that way.
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>>46540113

It obviously affects me, because it's the zeitgeist. Remember how those morons kept pushing for the new, black Spider-man until Marvel stepped in? Or when they wanted to include black people in the Witcher?

How many gays and transsexuals are there, anyway? I've gone my whole life without meeting one in person. These freaks don't breed: Where do they all come from?
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>>46540071
The reason they might is because people put a lot of themselves into characters.

It doesn't affect gameplay so why does it matter?

Let them.
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>>46540138

Jesus, this is basically people playing fetish characters, isn't it.
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>>46540130
Holy shit.

Are you actually forreal?
That's exactly why we get called "terrorists"

Jesus fuck we're all human, act like a decent person for fucks sake.
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>>46540038

seriously you need to kill yourself
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>>46540146
If GMs can't keep fetishism out of their games they suck as GMs.

You can be trans or a furry or whatever without it being your entire persona, so characters can too.
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>>46540161

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Besides, this irks me. Like having a woman and a black man as the new leads for the Star Wars movie, and the white guy being depicted not as cool evil, but as ineffectual evil. More, she's overpowered as fuck.

I'm all for true equality. My test for true equality in media is: How much damage does a woman take? If she's never hit properly in a show or series, this is clearly a feminist work because a man in the same situation would be fucked up. (Contrast how Finn gets fucked up and Rey is never directly hit in the show.)

Let me see a woman get severely beaten or uglied up, and I will say "Okay, this show is completely fair. I accept that." It's not about equality, it's about feminist superiority and a contrarian rebellion against 'the man's' values.
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>>46540130
>Where do they all come from?
They're an aberration spawned from the Information Age. Teenager feels weird about their body, talks about it online, weirdos online tell them it's because they're actually a woman, teenager takes this to heart and starts to believe it and feeds this back into their internet delusion machine. A few years later you've got a Liberal Arts grad who cut off their dick and made it their mission in life is to convince (manipulate) as many confused teens as they can into doing the same.

Don't get me wrong, like 1/30000 people are legitimately transgender, but when you've got cliques of them forming in highschools and colleges all over the country you know most of them are just crazy.
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>>46540130
>I've gone my whole life without meeting one in person.
No, you haven't. It's just that most homosexuals are in the closet.
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>>46540181

Shouldn't you be looking after your wife's son?
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>>46540146
Pretty much! Only if you kick them you get called a transphobe.
Tumblr trannies are the fucking worst, I've been unfortunate enough to run into two at my game club. One got assraged because the fat brony manchild who also wanted to join my game kept calling her a him, then she got banned for slapping another guy over the back of the head when he said something that triggered her and acting like it made her fucking MLK over facebook.

The other got asscaved when I called a playing piece a "him" and subscribes to that genderqueer horseshit.
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>>46537806
>conflicting feelings.
That is called 'an erection'.
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>>46540189
You don't think you're taking SW a bit personally there?

Ray isn't the lead *because* she's a woman, she's the lead because she's like one of 3 force sensitive fucks left.

And Rylo isn't evil because he's a white male, he's evil because he's an edgy shitlord with daddy issues.

The difference between Freedom fighters and terrorists is that terrorism involves demonising the enemy and making them sub human.
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>>46537657

Honestly it's kinda patronizing to me.

Now, if you had a character who was say: A noble paladin, a stalwart friend and someone who loved getting into religious debates with someone of all other faiths who also happened to be transgender and didn't spout it within the first 30 seconds?

That's a better version of it. A lot of people don't seem to get the point of normalizing something it so make it seem NORMAL. It's not normal to open up every conversation with 'Hi, I'm transgender!' as much as it's normal to walk up to a guy and go 'I like shorts! They are comfortable and easy to wear!' without provocation.
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>>46540130
>How many gays and transsexuals are there, anyway? I've gone my whole life without meeting one in person.
probably because they know people like you exist who would rage at the notion of their existence. After all, hateful folks have always existed.

Either that or they don't exist.
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>>46540264

I wouldn't complain if the dreaded YA heroine didn't pop up so much. You had all those Battle Royale rip-off novels which missed the point of Battle Royale, then Divergent, then Force Awakens, then Rogue One.

Thank God for Japan. Gatchaman Crowds was part of the rot, but it sold like shit in Japan. I was amused when one QM used all the designs for characters that were the complete opposite of their inspirations.
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>>46537270
>Minsc says some anti-GG joke because of how shit it was should tell you all you need to know.
That line was patched out, and frankly, thank god. It was just fucking cringey as shit.
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>>46540189

The single most competent and effective guy in the entire movie is a White, Male Fighter Pilot.

Rae's side of it was entirely personal, she had very little effect on the main plot about Starkiller Base.
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>>46540315

He wasn't remotely plot-relevant. He was supposed to be dead.

Also, how did he get off that planet?
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>this thread
>103 replies and counting
Jesus why the fuck do you losers even care.
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>>46540289
Isn't complaints about YA heroines essentially the same as the complaints about the burly white hero that we hear from the other side?

Why can't chicks relate to main characters?

I don't however agree with shit like "make thor a woman, or "make spiderman black"
That's just dumb. Make new characters for christs sake. It's not a finite resource.
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>>46540315
>White, Male Fighter Pilot.
I don't remember any major character like that.
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>>46540328

The guy who blew up the superweapon wasn't plot relevent?
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>>46540328
Because he's the attractive white male?

Duh.
>>46540329
Because we can.
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>>46540337
Fuckin' X-Wing guy. I guess he was sort of Latin looking.
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>>46540357
I don't remember any major character like that.
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>>46540342

He only interacted with Finn throughout the entire movie. He was so plot-irrelevant he was initially supposed to die, then came back because JJ Abrahams changed his mind.

Really, another thing that irks me is that Finn serves no purpose. You would think he's meant to fill Han Solo's boots, but Rey is Luke Skywalker AND Han Solo. The two times he fights, he gets his ass roundly kicked. He's basically the exotic Asian girlfriend.

>>46540332

It's worth pointing out that guys can get fucked up. Girls can't. Luke got his hand chopped off by Vader, while Rey wins her first encounter with her Vader analogue handily.

Even Anakin got his shit pushed in by Tyrannus. Years later, he had to tap into the power of evil to win.
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>>46540357
>he was sort of Latin looking.
So how exactly was he a "white" guy?
I'm not complaining by the way. The characters weren't the movie's main problem, although Miss Perfect was a little too perfect.
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>>46537489
>pipe smoking fascist
You've got to be smoking from a different sort of pipe if you think Urbinski is a fascist. The guy is some sort of Uruguayan Jew-Wizard, not Mussolini.
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>>46540357
>>46540342

Kinda funny that in the actual climax, basically all the major stuff was done by stuff other than Rae or Finn.

It was Solo and Chewwie who blew up the shields. It was Poe who blew up the station. The brawl with Kylo Ren was a personal and honestly kinda superfluous thing in the grand battle.
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>>46540357

I thought he was Hispanic?
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>>46540365
Did you even watch the damn movie?

He's the reason Fin got away from the stormtroopers in the first place.

He essentially enables the whole movie.
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>>46540357
>>46540365
I think he's talked about Poe Dameron.

Which is funny, because Poe Dameron is played by Oscar Isaac, who is Guatemalan.
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>>46540357
Ooooh you mean False Hope Dude, who showed up for five minutes to trick me into thinking the movie might be worth a fuck, then disappeared until he got another five minutes of screentime right at the end?

Yeah he was cool I guess, but 10 minutes of not-shit wrapped in 140 minutes of shit doesn't fix anything.
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>>46539927
In otiginal BG2 one of the PCs had an arc where he was turned to a woman AND it wasn't played for cheap laughs. There's were also several characters openly or ambiguously homosexual.
No one complained, I suspect because they were endearing characters with decent writing instead of this one liner out of nowhere. Transphobia is the excuse to hide behind and defend bad writing.
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>>46540401

All of this could have been averted if Ren had been a little more spiteful.

I'm serious. All he needed to do to completely derail the plot was to go:

> "I've heard you're the best pilot in the galaxy. I believe you."
> "You, Stormtroopers #2180. Break both his arms."
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>>46540417
>There's were also several characters openly or ambiguously homosexual.
I don't remember. Please remind me.
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>>46540377
I will concede that she doesn't get hurt.

She also doesn't do anything without help either.
Except get herself unkidnapped.
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>>46540377

> while Rey wins her first encounter with her Vader analogue handily.

Handily? She was getting her ass kicked pillar to post for most of the fight, even after he'd taken some hits from Finn AND a hit from a bowcaster that had put stormtroopers in the dirt without effort.

She got a last minute turnabout against a guy who'd taken a beating it was impressive he could walk after.

Also: Luke's first battle with Vader was Vader trying to kill him at the Death Star trench run. A battle that Vader lost and went off spinning like Team Rocket.
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>>46540438
She learns complex Jedi tricks by trial and no error.
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>>46536959
Free publicity.

DnD saying these things is a no brainer. Did anyone think they'd say "Yeah we support diversity but that writing was real shit" when they could just do what they did and get bonus diversity points?

They didn't get into any details, and they didn't need to. Just like anyone else "chipping in". They just release the standard pro diversity comment and that's it. Free publicity and people are like "oh good for them". I mean, you have to be one sorry idiot to go against something like that. It'll only fire back.
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>>46540438

Actually, she takes a few light hits during the saber fight.

The issue with Lightsabers is there isn't really much room between 'Didn't take any hits' and 'Fucking dead' due to the nature of them in a fight.
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>>46540438

Actually, she's:
- An expert staff fighter.
- An expert mechanic.
- Fluent in multiple languages, including BB-8's.
- An expert pilot.

Probably more than I can't remember.

>>46540440

Han shot Vader, remember? He had Luke cold. "You're all clear kid, let's blow this thing and go home!"
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>>46540448
Deus ex machina

It's shitty writing not gender favoritism.
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>>46540459

She doesn't. Watch the sequence again. Finn and Darth Driver get hit multiple times. Actually, Darth Driver gets hit the most. Rey doesn't get hit or injured at all.

Her only injury is getting flung into a tree.
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>>46540448

Complex Jedi tricks? Erza in rebels learns that sort of shit real damn easy. Even Luke was deflecting lasers, blind, after only a few hours of training.

>>46540467

>Han shot Vader, remember? He had Luke cold. "You're all clear kid, let's blow this thing and go home!"

And Kylo Ren had been through the wringer even before he engaged her.

It's also a bit unfair to compare Darth Vader with 'Guy who's entire character is he wants to be Darth Vader but isn't living up to his legacy' like they are equally impressive people.
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>>46538205
>>46538128
>>46538383

One of the arguments for cleaning up games journalism was the fact that certain companies based bonuses and salaries on how well the metacritic score was. I don't know if they still do that, but losing out on hundreds of thousands of dollars because a couple of bearded white hipsters didn't like how much that one titty bounced in your first cutscene sounds like bullshit to me.

Plus there's also the developers from Japan being hesitant to port games over because of our changing "cultural climate" thing.
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>>46540438
She goes from zero force training to brute-forcing a Jedi mind trick in two tries.

That isn't how the force works. Even once-in-a-generation prodigies need tons of practice before they can just brain-fuck people into doing shit like that.
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>>46536959
>we stand for bippity boppity hugs n fags n sheeit
>please don't sue us
Wow, it really is amazing how much you can accomplish by circumventing the law and simply harassing people into doing what you want.
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>>46540440
A battle which was only won by Vader's boys being blindsided by Han. If he'd not intervened Luke would be dead and Yavin would be a debris field.

It takes most of two movies for Luke to get good enough with the Force and his saber to fight Vader, and he still gets his ass handed to him. And his severed hand handed to him, come to think of it.
Rey has zero training and barely knows how to use a lightsaber and she pretty handily kicks Kylo's ass. Is all that whiny bitch's experience with inanimate objects? Because he's fucking good at breaking those, shit at anything that can fight back.

>but he was wounded!
Yeah, and? The grandad he idolised could soak up blaster shots without a scratch.
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>>46540071
Where does it say she didn't use a belt of gender?
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>>46540467
Anakin was a podracer as a child! Starwars revolves around the ide that being force sensitive means you're just better than everyone

Droidspeak is just binary, not that uncommon in the SW universe
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I'm transgender.

I play roleplaying games to have an escape from all the crap I deal with every day in real life.


The LAST thing I want to do is play a transgender character in a roleplaying game.

The only people who insist that transgender characters are needed are fetishists who love the idea of being transgender and ignore the horrible reality of it all.
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>>46540506

Notably, the one time Luke uses the mind-trick, it doesn't work effectively.
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>>46536959
>every refuge for white men

are you really still upset over blacks being able to use the same toilets as you?

>>46537342
>they had to enjoy
>enjoy
>/v/

Oh come on now!
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>>46540440
>Handily? She was getting her ass kicked pillar to post for most of the fight, even after he'd taken some hits from Finn AND a hit from a bowcaster that had put stormtroopers in the dirt without effort.

And Darth Vader functioned his entire Sith career as a 4th-degree burn victim with a range of motion barely better than C-3P0, and it still took Luke three movies to not get his shit handed to him.
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>>46540518
>my group has a female player
>she made a male rogue
>her style of drawing made him cute as hell
>he was the gayest thing in the group
>people keep accidentally mixing up the player and character's pronouns
>eventually she accidentally fucks it up
>corrected, laughter all around
>thus the character was canonically FtM from then on

It's possible for other reasons, but I'll agree the vast majority is either attention whoring from non-trans folk and fetishism. I'd imagine you guys would just play whatever genders you felt more comfortable as and spare them the drama you went through.
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>>46540519

Actually, it works fine on Jabba's guards/interpreter. It fails against Jabba but in the same way that 'I'm racially immune to those' Jewy McJew Alien from the prequals ignores it.
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>>46540518
So it's essentially just badwrongfun and "if I don't like it you can't either"

You can't honestly say that adding that one line of text to a backstory is fetishism.

Not to say that it *can't* be, but I'm only concerned about the non magical realm people
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>>46540543

You mean the guy that was, in his armour, more than capable of utterly destroying Asoka, a skilled veteran of the Clone Wars in Rebels?
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>>46540513
There's a hostile line missing.
You're allowed to be racist against Duegar and drow but you aren't allowed to dismiss transvestites as weirdos?
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>>46540567

Quit mansplaining, you cis shitlord.
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>>46540071

If GG had been around in the 90s they'd have been this upset over Poison having a dick in Streets of Rage.
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>>46536959
>implying gays, transsexuals, weird fetish people and all other forms of social outcast haven't been the bread and butter of RPG populations since the hobby began
Nigga what the fuck are you even doing here.
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>>46540512

>Rey has zero training and barely knows how to use a lightsaber and she pretty handily kicks Kylo's ass. Is all that whiny bitch's experience with inanimate objects? Because he's fucking good at breaking those, shit at anything that can fight back.

Yeah, he kinda is. Did you miss the bit where the non-force sensitive guy who was using his lightsaber like a baseball bat managed to hold him off for a good while?

Kylo Ren isn't Vader. He's kinda shit at this. That's literally his issues with himself that he makes very clear across the movie. He wants to be Vader but hasn't gotten close.
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>>46540586

Especially since she was female in Japan.
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>>46540579
That whole sentence just rubs me the wrong way.
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>>46540558
Mind trick has a sliding difficulty level depending on how intuitive/routine the thing you're tricking them on is.

"Hey, guy who opens doors for people with appointments, I've got an appointment, open the door" - easy
"Hey, guy who is supposed to make sure I don't get out of these restraints no matter what, let me out of these restraints" - hard
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>>46540593
This.

Plus she's a staff fighter already. That would translate over reasonably well.
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>>46540573
True, but there's plenty of characters who say things you might disagree with but aren't allowed to.
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I don't get it. I could empathise with Finn and Rey just fine, despite being white and male.

Am I doing something wrong? Why am I not more mad?
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>>46540627

I'd honestly like to see her end up with something more like a glaive or naginata than the standard lightsaber. It would look distinctive and let her also use more staff fighting.

That and I don't really like double ended lightsabers.

Really looking forward to the walk of more Poe in later movies now that people have confirmed they like him.
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>>46540627
Well enough to beat up a guy who has literally no one to sword fight with, yes. Fucker just walks around, freezes some normies and has his dudes shoot them for him.

I feel like people don't realize that about Kylo. He is about as much of a swordsman as most of the nerds here are, he just happens to have one.
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>>46540620
What if said trooper was already a sympathiser?

I mean they really should have established it but it makes sense no?
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>>46540650

He was trained by Luke, and he is the Grand Master of the Knights of Ren. He is supposed to be a bad-ass. He really should have been like a young SS commander.

If anything, his flaw should have been that he was TOO cruel and sadistic.
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>>46540655
I mean, that trooper was James Bond. MI6 probably put him there specifically to get her out.
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>>46540647
>>46540650

Yes and yes.

Kylo is just playing at being Sith.
It's a wonder he made it this far.

His force control is good but his saber skills suck.
Kind of like a reverse Maul
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>>46536959
>people legitemately discuss the "issue" of sexualization in TT and pnp.
Are you fucking retarded? It's fantasy. Literally made up for enjoyment. If sexualization has any place, then its there.
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>>46540650
This brings up the issue of why he doesn't just ditch the lightsaber and fuck everyone with his super force powers. He stops a blaster bolt in mid-air and holds it there, that's fucking insane.

Even if he's just some kind of idiot-savant in telekinesis and not general force powers, he should still be able to rip the entire protagonist group's intestines out through their nostrils with that level of oomph.
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>>46540665
Now you're being petty.
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>>46540675

I'm surprised he didn't get a big boost after killing his father. That's a big step to the Dark Side, and it's like making a big sacrifice to the Gods of the Warp.

He should've been crackling with sexual energy.
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>>46540650
He brought down the order of the jedi.
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>>46540661
And as a trainee of some dude who had, what, three sword fights with one dude and Grand Master of the Knights of Ren, he has had functionally zero experiences with sword fights. He freezes dudes, his dudes shoot them for him, he occasionally murders a helpless nonwizard.

Being trained by all the masters in the universe doesn't mean you'll beat an experienced fighter. It's heavily implied that Rey has beat the shit out of dudes her whole fucking life, and Fin was trained in a Spartan-esque murder field so even if he was subversive he's had leagues of experience actually getting beat on that Ren doesn't, so he can at least know how to keep the beatings off himself.
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>>46540685
Because he had to badguy monologue and be as vader as possible.
That's like his whole character.
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>>46540595

And yet, without poison being given a dick in the US release, there'd be hardly any futa porn of her.

See this is the problem with millenials like those in GG; their sense of entitlement is such that they expect content creators to just hand them futas on a plate, rather than seeing this sort of thing as an opportunity to create their own futas.

It's really kinda sad when you think about it.
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>>46540695
The one dude who wasn't looking and a bunch of kids. We saw that one dude's dad do the same, it didn't take effort.

He even missed one. At least grandpa "Actually a Fighter" Vader didn't fuck that up.
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>>46540699
He couldn't just get practice droids programmed with sword-fighting styles and tactics like Vader did in EU?
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>>46540650
>Well enough to beat up a guy who has literally no one to sword fight with, yes.

Let's just nevermind the fact that he was personally trained by Luke Skywalker for years, and was apparently good enough to slaughter Luke's new Jedi academy to the last student before he received any Sith training. Unless we're operating under the theory that Darth Snooky purposely trained him wrong as a joke the idea of him being a total chump just doesn't make any sense.
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>>46540699
>And as a trainee of some dude who had, what, three sword fights
As per canon Luke raised laser sword fighting to a completely new level, because he had nobody to teach him force tricks.
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>>46540727
>Unless we're operating under the theory that Darth Snooky purposely trained him wrong as a joke the idea of him being a total chump just doesn't make any sense.
...Would you not? Imagine the embarrassment of knowing your plans got buttfucked by a guy literally trained to be a failure.
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>>46540727

Maybe he lost all his Paladin levels, and is now training up another class.

Sort of like multi-classing in D&D 2E.
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>>46540692
Yeah but I think he's still doing his inner turmoil thing.

He never actually gave himself over like Vader did.
He's just playing pretend still because he has issues with his ears.
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>>46540707
Vader mostly used force powers to wreck shit though, he wasn't even that scary of a saber-fighter because of his shitty robot body and never really used it unless someone else came at him with a lightsaber.
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>>46540685

He did that in the first meeting. He just grabbed her and that was end of the battle.

The second time though he wanted to prove himself. It's part of his issues with wanting to be Vader. Once he saw her as a 'Worthy Foe' rather than a vague annoyance, he wanted to do it Like Vader Would Have. At least, that's how I saw it.

>>46540692

I think the issue is that he's not using it right. Vader had a long, slow, deep burn with his anger that overflowed sometimes. Darth Bitchfit goes off like a 10 year old. It's a undirected temper tantrum rather than focused rage.

I think they were trying to show that off with the tearing up inanimate objects. Self Loathing is not much use to draw on and he's letting it just go wherever rather than focusing it.
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>>46540743
Sith use a Klingon Promotion system. If your student is a loser, he's not going to keep that position for long.
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>>46540763

>Vader mostly used force powers to wreck shit though, he wasn't even that scary of a saber-fighter because of his shitty robot body and never really used it unless someone else came at him with a lightsaber.

Did you SEE him in Rebels? He utterly destroyed shit with a Lightsaber. He only really used force powers when he had to.
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>>46540748

This is what I meant by the villain being depicted as weak and pathetic. He isn't even strong in his evil. I've read stories where the villain is gleefully, maliciously evil, and that's the kind of villain that's the best to fight again.

Like, if the other guy is so steeped in his evil that he revels in it, this guy is scary as fuck. He knows what he is and he's embraced it.

You don't just have to be evil, you also have to be cruel and inventively spiteful. It's the equivalent of telling a dying man "By the way, I killed your children first." to really fuck him before he dies.
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>>46540744
That's not how AD&D multi-classing works. That's not even how dual-classing works.
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>>46540512
>Rey has zero training and barely knows how to use a lightsaber and she pretty handily kicks Kylo's ass.
Kylo was probably kind of preoccupied. Using the Force to keep his leg attached after taking a hit from a bowcaster, or something. The movie lays it on really thick that the bowcaster is stupid powerful.
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>>46540778

I only recall dual-classing from Baldur's Gate. You couldn't use any of your old abilities until you got up to the same level in your old class, right?

It was basically a death fucking sentence.
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>>46540764
This
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>>46540773

According to the writers, the Sith are gone (Because otherwise they said it would defeat the point of Return of the Jedi if the just brought the Sith back).

Snooki and Ren are Dark Side but not actual Sith.
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>>46540791
You could, you'd just get heavily penalized XP wise.
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>>46540794
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
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>>46540794

Snooki is going to be a midget, isn't he.
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Wait why are talking about Star Wars again?
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>>46540815

Because it's the most visible franchise that has fallen prey to the cancer of feminism. Now they're coming for our childhoods.
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Just ignore it, the beauty of PnP is you can make up whatever the fuck you want.

It's not like movies and vidya where you have to deal with all the obnoxious pandering.
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>>46540727

Dude, he's gone dark side, has no master in it, dark side already makes you a bit unstable, he occasionally has arguments with Darth vader's helmet, he's probably honestly chilled a little since he murdered all those other students, was probably really cathartic so he's got a lot less of the anger that gives sith strength.
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>>46540809

Well, I'm going to go with 'What the writers have said'. I mean, Clone Wars demonstrated there are other Dark Side traditions other than the Sith.
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>>46540777
That's just exactly what he was supposed to be though.

It's not because of anything except that was his character.

I see a children's story version of SW in this.
The bad guy is a big dummy and the hero/ine comes and wegies them with their trusty sidekick because the goodguys always win.

New studio trying to draw in new fans, society likes cheap easy to digest entertainment now.
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>>46540815
Because it has the fucking gall to star a woman, a black guy and a hispanic guy, and we can't be expected to empathise with subhumans like that.
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>>46540827

I'm surprised that he isn't fucking pumped. If you were a guy who turned evil, you would take a deep and abiding delight in it. You would be free, free for the first time to do the most unspeakable things you could only imagine.

You would be fascinated by the depths of your own dark imagination, and your ability to bring it into reality. Now add superpowers, and OH SHIT.

It's sort of like why when Space Marines go off the reservation, they fall HARD. One unique thing about 40K is that I have never, ever seen a Chaos Space Marine go "Oh, I wish I was still loyal to the Imperium. I've made a bad choice."

Even the Night Lords are literally baby-eating serial killers. They missed the days when they were strong, but they would never go back to their old lives.
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>>46540857
That's because Kylo Ren is budget dark side.
He doesn't GET IT, he's at best a wannabe Sith that can't take the plunge to go all out.
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>>46540812
Yes.

For hijinks
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>>46540873

My ideal version of evil are the Columbine High shooters. If you've seen any of the videos or watched the transcript, it was like all of their fantasies had come true at once. Not just a willingness to do evil, but a glee in it. All restraint gone, just breaking and killing and dealing death.

That, to my mind, is what villains should be like. It would scare the shit about of people.

I mean, I'd have made Kylo Ren a sadistic fuck. A guy who remembers killing all of the Academy, and feels equals parts shame (Because it's something dirty, something almost sexual, like being caught masturbating) and a deep and abiding enjoyment.
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>>46540902

Wouldn't that make him too evil?
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>>46540902

Honestly, Kylo Ren DID come across as a guy who'd be a school shooter. He's unstable, unsure of himself and desperate to be part of something more, part of a legacy.
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>>46540857

Well that's why you need a master to poke you and stop you procrastinating after you've killed all the younglings.

>>46540850

wait, rey was played by a hispanic guy?
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>>46540940

No, think about it. It would make even more sense for him to fall to the dark side.

Imagine the conversation with Han Solo.

> "Dad, I love you. But you want me to be better. Snoke loves me for who I really am, and all he asks of me is to be myself."

It's sort of like Kotomine Kirei, who only found joy in his life when he abandoned all morality and actively relished the suffering of others. A kind of "This is who I really am. And now I am at peace with myself."
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>>46540941
>>46540902

They really need psychologists in a Galaxy Far Far Away. This would solve so many problems.
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>>46540941
Yeah but he'd wuss out and only kill by accident.
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>>46540963

At Peace with yourself isn't really a Sith thing.

It also doesn't really tie in with his desire to walk Vader's path when Vader's conflicts between dark and light were his path.

Ani spent his life tempted by the dark, to draw on the worst of himself.

Ren is spending his life tempted by the light, to be better than he is.

>>46540976

I dunno, he killed an awful lot of his own classmates already.
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>>46540789
And yet the bowcaster never did that before. What the fuck did Chewie do to it between movies?

Again, in EU it's possible for dark-siders to heal from that by just being really angry. Vader could, for very short periods, breathe without the mask or the chamber just by focusing on how angry his condition made him.
But of course Disney are shitting all over the EU, good and bad, while seeking to still make money from it.
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Is anyone else surprised Kylo Ren didn't just multiple weild a load of lightsabers using his force telekinesis powers? just make a giant wall of spinning laserkatanas around yourself at walk at things you don't like.
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>>46541026

>But of course Disney are shitting all over the EU, good and bad, while seeking to still make money from it.

Keeping the EU would have left nowhere to really go and would have been completely prohibitive to attempt to make new movies for. It just wasn't feasible.
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>>46541036

I'm personally surprised he didn't just use his force powers to fuck people up more. I mean, if you're a wizard and your enemies are normies, I would use magic just to fuck with them, for that psychological advantage.

It wouldn't be hard to just pick up huge rocks and stones and just keep pelting them with shit. Vader does this to Luke in Empire, after all, and it fucks Luke up.
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>>46541026
>What the fuck did Chewie do to it between movies?

Maybe the cooling device is clogged with hair and so the bowcasters come out overpowered.
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>>46537425
>geared towards ruining every 'refuge' for white men.
The baitest bait.
If you feel that your hobby as a whole is a refuge, you're looking for a cult/ideology, not a hobby.

>>46537302
As if the character design for Baldur's Gate was that great to start with.

Maybe I got spoiled by Planescape: Torment, but the character development for most characters in BG is very bland. Having a character developed around the idea of transexuality doesn't sound exceptionally boring. It might be even interesting, depending on the way they do it.

> a Pipe-Smoking Fascist
The Pundit is more of a Pipe-Smoking Asshole than anything else. Thinking that he's doing more than just spouting profanities at passerbyers as a gimmick is too kind. Dark Albion is still cool, though.

>>46540071
Sometimes you want to have a "gender struggle" character aspect going on. Some people find it interesting enough. I know I do. It would be cool to see players go all "but am I really an X right now, after doing all this?", "is there a reason I was born as Y to start with?".

>>46540130
> I've gone my whole life without meeting one in person.
a) You aren't paying attention.
b) You (probably) live a mostly sheltered life. This can happen even as an adult in a work environment.
c) Trans people are wary of people that give your vibes. They won't talk about it with people that could possibly define them as non-breeding freaks. I wouldn't blame them.

It's a combination of all of the above.
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>>46540998
I dunno I just can't take him seriously.

He's not a real villain.
Either they wrote him that way and portrayed him perfectly.
Or they're shit and failed to produce a worthwhile character.

Either way I would have preferred a fully Sith badass chick that wrecks the goodytwo shoes then in turn gets wrecked than the drivle they gave us.
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>>46541054
Don't talk shit. Doing a live-action or even animated adaptation of say, Dark Forces or Shadows of the Empire would make most diehard fans shit their pants with joy and still bring in the megabucks.
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>>46541065
>Either way I would have preferred a fully Sith badass chick
You know, there's more to life than just stroking your dick.
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The game is absolutely terrible and buggy as hell regardless of the pandering.
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>>46541084

With which young version of Luke?
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>>46541036
were you genuinely surprised by that? the series has a tone to maintain and sword fights are one of the basic elements.
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>>46541093
>Dark Forces doesn't even have Luke in it
wut
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>>46541065

I prefer the highly flawed person with doubts than a generic 'Badass'.

I'm fully expecting the trilogy to have him going through a lot of character progression himself, rather than being mostly static like Vader was.

Vader was a fantastic villain but I don't want a second Vader.
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>>46541088
Yeah that's not even remotely the vibe I was going for. I think you need to take your own advice.

I really don't want to do a "women are just sexual objects" speech but come on dude, at least *try*
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>>46541088
Well yeah, there's also sex with other people.
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>>46541104

Shadows of the Empire did though. It had a Luke the actor hadn't been able to play for well over a decade.
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>>46540518
>The only people who insist that warrior characters are needed are sadists who love the idea of being warriors and ignore the horrible reality of it all.

I'm sorry you're having a bad time, anon. You really shouldn't, but doesn't make you right. It's fantasy, the whole idea is to pretend to be someone else without all the shit that comes with it.
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>>46541120
You're the one who said he wanted a badass "chick" as if the gender of the Sith was important to you in any way. Either it was about your dick or you're just a SJW looking for pandering.
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>>46541130
Then animate it. Mark Hamill can still voice act like a boss, can't he?
The climactic battle in Coruscant airspace would have to be largely CG anyway, so there's no loss there.
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>>46540038
I'm actually at this point too. Used to be a pretty liberal guy, who supported gay marriage etc, but SJW's have pushed and bitched so much that I'm pretty much at the reverse side now.
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>>46541137

Not at my table. I'd rather not have people pretend to be whatever rainbow-flavored sexual perversion is 'in' at the moment. I am blessed with a very traditional group, who'd mock someone like that to death.
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>>46541140
So if I specified I wanted a badass dude I'm either gay for dicks or a Redpill looking for pandering to other Redpills?
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>>46541147

He can voice act well but at this point you've moved away from 'Disney wants to make more live action movies'.
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>it's a tumblr invades /tg/ episode
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>>46541162

A badass dude is the norm. A badass Sith chick would be a poor choice, because it would mean that they would have to beat the shit out of a woman.
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>>46541162
There's nothing odd about specifying the default, anon.
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>>46541155
>I am blessed with a very traditional group, who'd mock someone like that to death.
So they'd die from seizing up after cringing so hard at your terrible attempts at wit?
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>>46541140
It's not pandering if I like the idea of a female villain dude.

Nor is it sexual fantasy.

Are you seriously that far up your own ass that you can't see beyond those two extremes?
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>>46541175

What attempts at wit? I'm not even trying to be funny. They would mercilessly rib the guy who wanted to play whatever flavor of faggot is popular, the same way they would make fun of a guy who wanted to play as a girl.
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>>46541170
>>46541173
>men are the default
>women are something other than "normal people"
How long do you have to live in a basement to develop this mentality? Didn't you guys have moms or girl friends in school?
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>>46541191
And you don't see a problem with that?
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>>46541191
So yeah, death by excessive cringing. You sound like a group of primary schoolers who never learned cooties aren't real.
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>>46541195

It's <PRESENT YEAR> people!
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>>46541148
You didn't support shit, you just didn't care. You have no values, besides being lazy and wishy-washy.
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>>46541166
Then do a Dark Forces movie, do a fucking KOTOR movie, hell, dump the Vong and try to make a decent expanded universe that replaces the New Jedi Order and onwards.
Don't just dump it all and try to leech more shekels with your ttly new and awsum ideas, because they're sure as fuck not going to be as good.
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>>46537657
While I'm not transgender myself I do work with a couple (Psychfag, No I don't counsel them into being "normal").

Most find it to be crude one-dimensional tokenism that is usually rocky-horror tier stereotyping.

>>46537693
If they build their identity around it, they are usually doing it because the GLBTQ community is more accepting of them. They can do what they want with minimal social cost and it feels empowering to not have to hear "but really.... You're a dude right?" every day.


Ideally it WOULDNT matter.

Frankly transgender status makes more sense in a world with casual high-magic like polymorph and stuff. Don't like your body at birth? Poof, new genitalia.
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>>46541200

Obviously not. Roleplaying is a social event. There's a modicum of etiquette you have to observe, like not bringing your issues into it. For instance, I don't run heavy sexual content when I'm DM'ing, because that shit gets weird fast.

>>46541211

With us or against us, eh? That sounds awfully familiar.
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>>46541181
Don't play this fucking game with me anon. I have watched massive swarms of degenerates like you crawl all over /tg/ for years while the mods stood aside and did nothing. You think I can't recognize your kind by now?
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>>46541208
>using memes for lines that weren't even used
Not posting would have been a more mature way to admit you've been reduced to grasping at straws.
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