Civ/Evo/Builder Nations Game General
To discuss Evo, Civ and Builder/Nation Games, and to promote said games.
Question: What Evo, Civ and Nations Game do you miss the most?
From IdiotOPs twitter (Unseen civ):
"It's been way too long since the last thread, since I've had some family stuff to deal with, but I'm going to do my best to do one Thursday."
>>46510364
Nice
>>46509851
>>46509851
should we add Loxodons? Or are we inundated already with large beast creature races? I just can't imagine how we had bullywugs before walking titan elephants
>>46511535
If you want Loxodons, make a chart with them
>>46511585
I have next to none photoshopping experience, I wrote out a beginner template though is some divine anon could import it
>Loxodon
>Breeding: struggle
>Melee: Specialist
>Ranged: Abysmal
>Magic: Average
>Technology: Exceptional
>Diplomacy: Struggle
>+Natural Armor (Small weapon resistance due to thick, tough skin)
>+Trample (Can trample smaller creatures for automatic bonus damage)
>+-Eidetic Memory (Bonus when researching or crafting; minor diplomatic penalty for condescending nature of Loxodons
any suggestions?
>>46512050
Let`s continue on this.
LIST TEMPLATES FOR RACES YOU WANT ON CIV SHEETS
>Scorpionmen
>Breeding: Exceptional
>Melee: Specialist
>Ranged: Abysmal
>Magic: Average
>Technology: Average
>Diplomacy: Abysmal
>+Potent Venom: Attacks damage enemies and weaken armor overtime
>+Exoskeleton: Extra Armor
>-In My Nature: Minus for Diplomacy
What is your favorite monstergirl?
So far we got
>Sheep, Cat, Kitsune, Lamia, Mermaid, Harpy, and Centaurs, Alraune, Slime, Spider, Bipedal Scorpiongirls, Machines, Wolfgirls, Succubi, Squidgirls, Beegirls, Antgirls, Vampires and Cyclops/Monoeyes.
Wew
>>46512670
We already have undead.
>>46512050
>>46512429
adding on to Loxodon,
>+-Voracious Herbivore (Can survive off almost any vegetation, although requiring huge quantities)
>>46512429
I remember skorpions being adept at hiding in sand, some desert environment bonus perhaps?
Skorpions in nature tend to be photophobic, so would
>+-Photophobic (bonus to actions taken during night; penalty to actions taken during day
make sense?
>>46513406
Nice
>>46514551
Civ threads will have their ressurection one day soon my friend, mark my words...
>>46514969
Let`s ally with the Evo and Builders Thread.Wouldn`t it be cool to play an Evo-Game that turns into a Nation-Game
>>46512478
Bump
Is Sheep Civ gone?
>>46515839
Probably not, it'll most likely return tomorrow or so.
>>46515007
D O
I T
>>46515007
That was Primordial.
>>46516217
Just to clarify, just saying that it has happened before, and could possibly happen again.
>>46509851
So yeah, I've got an Evo Game idea I'd like to run in the future, but let me pitch it to you guys first and get some advance feedback.
The Pit Evo Game
Why is it called The Pit? Because the only habitable place in the world is a roughly cylindrical, gigantic vertical hole in the ground of this hypothetical planet. To be kinda clear, let's divide this cylinder into ten levels, each roughly 10.000 km high. The pit itself is about 10.000 km in diameter. Counting from the bottom, level 1 to 3 is flooded with water. Level 4 to 9 contains breathable atmosphere. Level 10 (and maybe 10+/Roof?)'s atmosphere is too thin to breathe.
Each level gets differing sunlight too. Level 1 never receives any sunlight. Level 3 gains sunlight sometimes, so hardy algae might grow. Levels 5 to 7 gets a nice amount of sunlight. Levels 8 and up gets way too much sunlight.
There will be definitely caves that run deep into the crust beyond The Pit, which might develop into new ecosystems. The Pit's walls aren't smooth, there might be overhangs and ledges scattered all over.
What do you think about the setting? Is it good enough for an evo game?
>>46517064I recognize that name. Taking inspiration from DLQ, or am I just still fresh from an archive binge?
Realistically I question the science behind such a world, but the starting creatures can make it interesting.
>>46516217
Shit I totally forgot that happened
>>46506490
Spider civ. It's been up since last night but I thought I'd post it here so you know it's still around.
>>46517244
he's been here way longer than DLQ
>>46517064
I think it's a great backdrop to set evo games in.
Its good to see that the nucleared eyed lobsters made it into the logo along with the algae hiveminds. But where are the amoeba jew overlords?
I'm bored, evo coming up ya'll!
>>46519010
Here's your answer.
>>46519644
EVOTHREAD IS LIVE
Could someone post some commonly used evo starter animals?
>>46519010
I'll edit the general image later.
>>46519731
Make your own bro.
Image for this:>>46519663
>>46517244I've been in DLQ, but the idea of The Pit came from a way older thread that I can't find in the archives about a cliff world.
So yeah, I might run The Pit this month.
>>46519731
Commonly there's one of each of these niches:
-Herbivore
-Carnivore
-Omni/Scav/Detrivore
-A plant or two
So unless you have something that's unusual (like say, a species that eats magic, or eats rocks) you have 4-5 starter creatures.
>>46519905
I mean old creature sets commonly reused for evos like the Braf, Bzol, Algae, Cerar and Mulu Set
>>46519866
AH, FINALLY FOUND IT!
Here it is lads, the thread that inspired The Pit.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/9146018/
>>46512429
>Fairies
>Breeding: Average
>Melee: Abysmal
>Ranged: Struggle
>Magic: Specialist
>Technology: Average
>Diplomacy: Exeptional
>+Fae Magick: All Fairies are able to cast magic from birth. They are talented at Nature, Illusion, and Arcane magic.
>+Fast like a bee: Fae are fast flyers, and therefore get a bonus to all agility based rolls.
>-Frail: Fairies are tiny and frail, and easily squished by mere mortals. Malus to ranged combat, Huge Malus to melee combat.
>>46520457
Unseen Civ Game by Idiot OP
>>46512478
Bump
>>46511436
What is that?
>>46527042
It's a bunch of nonsense. Basically just a series of WACKY & ZANY images that a special snowflake who posts in these threads believes is DEEEEEEEP.
>>46511436
Your dedication for shitposting knows no bounds anon.
>>46509851
Thinking of running a Giant Civ as my first try at this.
Never ran civs before. Anons, do you want to see some rando make an ass out of himself today?
>>46527201
Yes.
>>46527118
And last thread everyone who called shenanigans against it had their posts deleted.
>>46527235
Your sense of cruelty is real anon.
But I'll give it a shot if another anon wants to see it.
What are your thoughts on a superciv, using the end of each non-extinct branch as starting animals from several old dead civs
>>46527273
I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at Reality Check Tech. My sense of cruelty is astute.
I'd suggest considering a technological baseline. Avoid the first 20-25 posts being us trying to invent fire and loincloth.
>>46527495
Makes sense. I've seen some civs treat tech as rewards for handling tough scenarios. Like leveling up really. Is that a good approach to take?
>>46527531
Eh, personally, I think it's best if you keep it tied to some in-game representation. So something like loot, for example, by being able to search through bodies and wreckage of enemies for their tech, but have it still require some form of research, but maybe much faster than it would have been otherwise to research it from scratch.
>>46527660
So say the Giants beat some Humans/whatever and capture some craftsmen.
Would it be logical for them to learn what he knows, or to roll to see how well the Giants adopt/master said craft?
>>46527531
It seems an interesting mechanic, but I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket. I guess having it be represented by, well, reverse-engineering in the case of combat might be a good approach.
>>46527660
Also yes.
Like, you need some basis for your tech to develop rather than it just happening out of the blue.
>>46527729
It seems fairly logical, perhaps requiring a diplomacy roll or similar if the craftsmen are unwilling to teach.
Seems like everyone has been doing gritty and egy stuff recently, where's the cute girls doing cute things at damn it
>>46527855
You must've been gone when the sheepgirl civ was up.
>>46527782
I see.
So, a culmination of just natural discovery, and exploitation of those who can teach/share?
Ex: Giants have been in war for the last few turns. After constantly fighting a certain race, they develop tactics against said race. (+Attack modifier)
Or
Ex: The Giants have been having excellent trade with the Dwarfs, and are willing to exchange technological secrets concerning smithing. For a price.
>>46527883
Was it any good and is it dead
>>46527921
That about sums it up, yeah.
I might have become a little blasé about other civ games where, say, agriculture is spontaneously developed without any cause to question if this was a viable line of research.
>>46527978
Don't know. Google lanatae I think. Was the name of the race.
>>46527980
Yeah, magically shitting up gold and knowledge wouldn't make sense.
>>46512478
I'll humor you. Vampire girls.
>>46528943It's already on the list
>>46509851
Does anyone know if snow will be running again?
>>46528957
I was just telling you what my favorite was anon.
Although if you want me to add to your list, then I say Wolfgirls do it for me as well.
>>46529018
I heard he plans on running frequently in the summer.
On another topic, there was a thread I saw a while back that died quickly, but I thought was pretty interesting:
If one were to make a civ chart using only __-folk races, what animals would actually have enough substance to bring something new to the table?
>>46528220
This one is going great so far.
>>46529096
In my homebrew I have slothmen as a race of master Druids. It's at the point where they're borderline parasitic. Think of Flinstones style animal helpers.
>>46529053It's also on the list
>>46519943
Only Deja Vu reuses starters. Everything else has had its own starting set. Maybe generation trees would be better.
>>46529369
God dammit anon.
Why does your list have all my dirty tastes on there already?
>>46529615
People have similar tastes, I suppose.
>>46529509
Hmm, I`m tempted on running an evo continuation of several dead evo games that lasted a couple of threads
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/36744825/
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/46237752/#46237752
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/44323518/#44323518
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/40172744/#40172744
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/30120353/
>>46529737
Go for it.
Link the new thread here.
>>46529914
It'd require a whole lot of saving. I'd sort it via Imgur Albums with each creature, and write the summary and generation of each Evolution. I'll try to do it once I get my computer back.Could you link other dead multi-thread evos, beside Primordial, I feel that evogame has had its time and others need a chance in the spotlight
How would you make a mimic civ, /tg/? I thought of making stats for them but I just can't get it right.
>>46529737
Picking up where each left off, or mashup? I'm wondering since the second link is actually the 91st thread of Primordial.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Primordial_Evolution_Game
>>46530088
It'd presumably be similar to Unseen, but a lot more combat oriented, and has poor diplomacy due to appearing as chests and such.
>>46530153
I thought of putting two types of mimics, One for humanoid and the other for inanimate objects like chests, bags and such.
>>46530144
Picking where each left off in a mashup, via universal merging.
Oh god dammit, I guess it can be an exception or something.
>>46530191
Presumably they'd be like an anglerfishfolk civ, lure in prey via treasure or attractive woman and then attack them.
>>46530088
Wouldn't they just essentially be a shapeshifting civ? Heavily reliant on subterfuge and trickery to accomplish their goals and agendas. Could be neat.
>>46530298
Not him, but let me brainstorm a bit.
You don't start with, or make cities, but at the start get a selection of one out of several different cities of other races. The city chosen is the one you start out having a "network" in.
If a city has a network, it is essentially a shapeshifter city, and can be controlled indirectly, however it would require effort to expand this control over more things. At the start, the network would establish control over the underground criminal network, and reach out only to corrupt politicians and court officials.
Depending on what the players choose to focus on, the network of shapeshifters that make up their civilization can focus on tightening their grip on the underworld, establishing expansive and convoluted merchant monopolies through shadow guilds and banking cartels, or systematically begin replacing high ranking politicians up to and including the nobility.
Of course it would be possible to eventually do everything, but it would take a long time and a lot of resources, and with other cities on the horizon it would end up requiring focusing on a single city or branching out to create a more decentralized network of control and manipulation.
>>46530608
I like this.
>>46530608
>>46531147
Oh, you.
>>46529615Magic
>>46530608
Of course, and I think this goes unnoticed a lot, there would need to be a similarly sneaky opponent or regular threat to keep things interesting. Otherwise it's just illuminati sandbox simulator and the players would run out of things to do.
Something like paladins trying to root out corruption, wizards seeing through your disguises with high-end magic spells, illithid conspiracies competing for your shadow-government real estate, mystic cults trying to cast spells of mind control over the populace, all threatening to destroy, steal, or otherwise free the city of wage-slave political and economic puppet man-cattle your shadowy shapeshifting civilization manipulates to survive.
The players would end up having to juggle a number of strange, freaky, and downright unbelievable conspiracies ranging from inside job terror attacks, assassinations, smuggling rings, banking cartels, and the strange web that ties them all together into a working abomination of a shadow network while dozens of other factions and independant operators bungle over each other's' operations while trying to do their own sneaky things.
>>46531147
That was essentially what I was thinking of, yes.
Guys, I just thought of the best quest idea ever:
A treaent civ set in a futuristic tech.
Cyber trees.
>JPG relevant
>>46531963
What?
>>46532521
Cyber-punk ents. What's the question?
>>46512478
bump
>>46531963
So...megaman?
>>46531963
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>>46534663
Dreadful. Poetry is not a valid method of expression in this context.
Worst civs you ever played/seen. Go!
>>46535628
Everything related to >>46511436
Alright, stopped being a new fag and made the Giant Civ.
>>46535966
>>46536050
Good luck.
>>46536677
Thanks anon.
>>46511535
Loxodon are good fun. I remember Primordial Fire's Elephant People Civ.
>>46537687
Holy shit, that was my first civ experience.
>>46528220
Stuff is going on here and new players are welcome during these sleepy hours.
>>46538723
I'm there but I'm lurking more than anything else.
>>46536050
I remember my first Giants, it was SlowCM's.
Sad days
>>46538974
It will probably pick up again later today, population is low atm. A bump every once in a while is in order.
>>46539032
wasnt that the one where everyone died fighting orcs or something?
