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Previously on the old thread Destroyer Hill made an appearance, we learned that Corvus was an Anon who became a mod, and the reason why so many stories start off with an emergency Thunderhawk landing is because their windshield wipers only clean 10% of the windshields. Old thread >>46441105
>HH Book 6 - Retribution PDF:
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First for the best legion.
>>46457773
*Being next to the best legion
>>46457915
Why is mustache Dorn best Dorn?
>>46457915
Go away Tornf, nobody wants to hear about how you're going to build a wall.
>>46457915
Why does he have the chaos star on his belt?
>>46457915
say what you want about Dorn but that chainsword is baller.
>>46457935
>Implying there's another Dorn
>>46457945
Dunno. Maybe it was a gift from Guilliman
>>46457945
Three crooked arrows do not the star of chaos make.
I bet you get upset when loyalist players leave the arrow pointing forward on chaos guns in place on their conversions.
>>46457945
It's suppose to be lightning bolts. The older Imperial symbol had lightning on it.
>>46457974
>uses Chaos weapons
>claims to be a loyalist
Nice try, Alpharius.
What's the most unlikely shit your characters have done on the TT anons?
>>46458103
My Ultramarines buddy using whirlwinds to tank shock my dudes off the table instead of sitting still and shooting.
It worked too. I didn't see it coming at all.
>>46458063
>Uses Chaos weapons
>claims to be a loyalist
I think you mean nice try Gulliman, http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Gauntlets_of_Ultramar
>>46458128
>Evidence that girlyman used said gauntlets: 0
>>46458063
>He doesn't mix his weapons and armor
Seriously dude, you're missing out on a lot of cool looking bits that require only a small bit of work to look completely loyalist.
I mean, do you even 13th Company?Also, jokes on you, my main 40k army is DA.
>>46458103
Had a Moritat drop from the sky and wipe Perty and a unit of Tyrants in a single round of shooting with the Drakaina.
>>46458196
Did you miss the whole part about not doing any work to make them loyalist?
>13th company
>loyalist
Is that why Fenris was overrun by daemons and had to get lunar colony dropped?
>>46458263
>Did you miss the whole part about not doing any work to make them loyalist?
I'm the guy who posted the first comment. I was specifically referring to things such as the gun arrows in pic related.
>>46458103
My jetbike Legion champion was overwatched to death by bolt pistols from a barebones assault squad turn 2. I was upset.
>>46458360
I really hope they update the basic CSM box someday and add some older pattern bolters in there.
>>46458360
So, where's the "only a small bit of work to look completely loyalist" on that bolter, if you're not removing the Chaos marine arrow?
>>46458626
The spikes along the top.
And even those might work out fine if you're playing a more feral chapter.
>>46458504
Given how they've been adding more older patterns to the loyalists as they update the kits, I'd be surprised if they don't add a smattering of the same for CSM.
>>46458654
Feral chapter with Chaos symbols.
>>46458782
I'd be surprised if they actually did get something new.
>>46458786
>Chaos symbols.
It's an arrow, anon, it's not a chaos symbol until there are 8 of them.
Hell, by your logic the Codex Astartes already requires 80% of a battle company to slap chaos symbols on themselves.
>>46458850
How many times has the plastic tactical marine box been updated since it came out? I'm pretty sure the CSM one has always been the same.
>>46458941
The CSM box was updated with the 4e codex.
>>46458931
Don't confuse the holy arrow of His Angels of Death to the vile arrow of Chaos scum, heretic!
>>46458941
The most recent was the only real change since about 2000. There was one in between but it was just a recut save for the upgrade sprue.
The current CSM squad is likewise a mostly recut of the 2003 sprue with a different upgrade sprue and 2 more dudes. Also the weapons look a little more varied.
So we are probably due for a new cut sometime in the near future.
>>46458973
What did they add?
>>46459025
Reworked some of the bits, added all the different icons and marked heads.
>>46459025
Special weapons and another plasma pistol.
TS dred appears in next saturday's white dwarf, so probably available pretty soon.
>>46459142
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
>>46459162
>Why do these nerds keep asking about the worst legion?
>Let's just fuck their shit up.
>>46459162
Probably that they need to put out something and fast.
Big problem with a lot of the designs is that while many legions had iconic looks from old pieces of art, like DG pickelhaubes and shit, others didn't have that good of a representation and FW had to improvise. So we get Alpha legion snake head helmets and pic related.
>>46458103
My captain survived fire from an armoured company of 6 leman russes and two demolishers, holding an objective securing the win in an apocalypse game
>>46459142
god that looks shit
>>46459317
I can imagine some astartes captain with a cartoony smoke covered face with his hair all stuck up and stuff
>>46459162
>>46459187
What's wrong with it, exactly?
It's not Alpha Legion/Sons of Horus/Emperor's Children level, but it's far from the shittiest.
>>46459444
Case in point
>>46457665
Hey /hhg/ I need some help. What are some good Luna Wolves sounding names? I need to name a Contemptor
>>46459444
It's looks like something GW would make, not FW.
>>46459444
It's fine apart from the bunny ears. I just can't cope with the bunny ears.
>>46459142
>>46459162
>>46459336
I don't see anything wrong with this for whatever reason
>>46459444
It's mostly the headdress. It just ruins the model.
>>46458103
Overwatch flamer killed 3 terminators. I nearly shat myself
>>46459528
>>46459562
dunno, think it'd look pretty awesome if the head ornament was painted the same gold trim, but with alternating blue and yellow horizontal lines inside
the face is already chaos as fuck
>>46459522
But Death Guard are supposed to look shit.
Design-wise, what are your opinions for:
> best Contemptor
> worst Contemptor
> best upgrade torso+head
> worst upgrade torso+hed
>>46459444
It look cheap and tacky, the WE and DG dreads may be bland but they fit the legion theme. As ever it may be the paint job, let a decent painter have a go at it and it'll probably look a lot better.
>>46459615
Best is without a doubt the EC one.
>>46459615
Best eggnought: Alpha Legion. Love the ornaments.
Worst ballnought: Raven Guard. Would have been amazing, but they had to stick some shitty bird skull on it.
>>46459513
LW names are kind of all over the place, though a recurrant theme is to have a name like Abaddon - three or four syllables with doubled consonants
>Ezekyle Abaddon
>Tarik Torgaddon
>Kalus Ekaddon
Basically, pick a sound or two and then you can 'add on' the suffix.
>>46459142
I think it looks fucking awesome
>>46459615
> Best
Sons of Horus, both categories
> Worst Upgrades
Ultramarines are pretty horrific. All of the quality went to the Invictarii apparently.
> Worst Dread
World Eaters
>>46459651
Horus Luper Caladdon to give his full Cthonian name.I just named my Luna Wolves after Fantasy Chaos characters.
>>46459615
>best Contemptor
SoH, if Iron Warriors had a better face it would be that one
>worst Contemptor
Death Guard
>best upgrade torso+head
Either Iron Warriors or World Eaters
>worst upgrade torso+hed
Death Guard or Emperors Champions
>>46459811
Why? I really like the Phoenix Helmet.
There is nothing like it.
>Inb4 it is better like that.
Personally I dislike the wolf ears on the SoH helmets.
I wish they would look more like reaver helmets, more brutal.
>>46459615
>> best Contemptor
Alpha Legion, Raven Guard or Sons of Horus
>> worst Contemptor
Salamanders or Thousand Sons
>> best upgrade torso+head
>head
World Eaters or Sons of Horus
>torso
Sons of Horus or Death Guard
>> worst upgrade torso+hed
>head
Emperors Children or Ultramarine Praetorians
>torso
iron warriors
>>46459615
>best contemptor
SoH. Would be AL but the giant A on its chest looks silly
>worst contemptor
Death Guard. It just looks fucking terrible
>best upgrade kit
Raven guard. Only just beat out World Eaters
>worst upgrade kit
I'm not big on the Blood Angels or Death Guard ones, but in general I like all of the upgrade kits so far.
>>46459811
>Iron Warriors
>Best torso
What the bloody fuck mate
Would it make a good game?
(pic related)
Shooting hookers with a bolter and go mayhem in a stolen landraider until you get 6 Inquisition stars?
>>46459920
They look okay.
>>46459937
>Inquisition
>Horus Heresy
you had one job anon
>>46459975
>licensed game, parody
>fluff accuracy
nah anon, nah.
>>46459920
They must have been drunk during that design meeting.
>>46459948
It's not that they look bad, it's that they don't fit the Iron Warriors aesthetic at all. Never have IWs had diamond crosses, ropes or off centre circle belt buckles on their armour. The Iron Hands Immortals make for better Iron Warriors that their official kit.
>>46459864
They just look like they have trunks, also the hair sticking out of the helmets looks off
>>46459920I meant to say Iron Hands, I like the grope
>>46460055
bulbasaur?
>>46460073
What are you talking about?
>>46460063
it is a plume, the SoH also have it.
>>46460130
Yeah but SoH have got really cool looking deep sea looking helmets
>>46458103
No HH but I had a Skitarii Vanguard Sergeant get into a slap fight with a guard sergeant that lasted 5 assault phases
Post your fluff, anon reviews.
>>46459142
Ugh. Perpendicular and straight decorations are no good on a rounded figure. That chest wing is just killing me.
>>46459920
Iron Warriors confirmed for NATO
>>46460295
My dudes are Space Wolves and they kill stuff in space.
>>46460295
>Dark Angels chasing some Night Lords after Thramas
>end up on a planet where loyalist death Guard and Iron Hands were fighting Blackshields.
>Night Lords escape and return with Sons of Horus and World eaters and giant brawl ensues on planet.
Winner has yet to be decided. Or at least this is the reason why my Dark Angels are in the current campaign, other factions are all other players except for Blackshields who are just the Iron hands guy playing as blackshields.
>>46459920
Iron Warriors confirmed for one star scum, no wonder Perty decimated those mediocre good for nothings.
>>46460295
Arrogant as fuck Calibanite Ravenwing Praetor, him and his command squad are to be modelled on King Arthur and the round table. Fancies himself an honourable knight and a great monster hunter, has a crown modelled on his helmet. Just need a suitable model. To be fair he's fairly a competent commander and has a higher than average number of monster kills under his belt from Caliban, the only problem is that his ego is the size of a Stormbird.
>>46459513
Some of them've got biblical names
Looks like Contemptors, Cataphractii, and maybe Legion Vets(Company Vets? Chapter Vets?) are getting ported over to 40k.
Well, just ordered some CSM biker legs. I hope they work on SM bikes to make some MkVI Outriders, because there's not much alternatives at the moment. It's a shame FW didn't bother to make any other marks for Outriders.
>>46461165
Would not surprise me if a couple weeks after that got out GW released the B@C contents on different boxes.
I honestly just want relics and vows for my Black Templars, thats it. Please GW, dont fuck my army even further.
>>46461165
Calth is going to single-handedly keep Geedubs in the green this year, even with the AoStrocity.
>>46461165
Where does it say that they're getting ported?
>>46459920
As an explanation for the weird belt buckles - the belts on most armor marks are on the legs, not the torsos, but on Mk. II armor - which is what IW are usually shown wearing in the FW artwork - the belt is part of the torso. In order for them to have the correct waist/hip rotation for them to be aiming a weapon the belt has to be off center on the torso model. When it's assembled and painted it actually looks pretty okay.
>>46461220
>B@C contents on different boxes
I hope so. I do want 10 more MkIVs and it's been hard to find the sprues for a decent price. Either they're out of stock or selling for way more than regular tactical box. If GW puts them into a box, that means I can get them at about tactical squad price with 20-25% discount from a retailer.
>>46461301
>three new units for your adeptus astartes army, letting you use the models from the Horus Heresy Betrayal at Calth Boxed game
>>46461301
>three new units for your Adeptus Astartes army, letting you use the models from the Horus Heresy Betrayal at Calth boxed game in the 41st Millennium.
learn2read
>>46461333
>>46461353
Doesnt say anything about cataphractii or contemptors.
>>46461368
What the fuck do you think is in Betrayal at Calth?
>>46461388
a cash grab?
>>46461368
>BaC comes with 30 MkIV tacticals
>5 cataphractii
>1 contemptor
>"three new units"
>"letting you use the models from the Horus Heresy Betrayal at Calth boxed game"
How fucking thick are you?
>>46461368
Its not like there's anything else unique in the box, unless you plan on using the board itself as a unit.
>>46461428
So we're getting updated rules for tactical marines? I sure they'll be actually worth taking now.
>>46459643
Funny, 'cause I think the Raven Guard would be awesome because that sweet fuckin bird skull, but they had to stick some shitty tribal design on it.
>>46461464
I sure hope*
>>46461430
>inb4 one unit is 20 plain bolter marines, another unit is 3 missile launchers and 3 heavy bolters, and one is 10 marines with assorted special weapons
>>46461430
>The Ultramarines chapter weaponized the very surface of Calth, unleashing large sections of it upon their battlegrounds, their purity so great that even the dirt of their defiled homeland fought against their enemies
g a g
>>46460295
My team of Knights Errant. Many thanks to the anon who made the generator, I had entirely too much fun with it.
I've got an SoH Delegatus who was slated for purging on Isstvan III. During the battle, he met a WE Captain who took part in Angron's attack and was driven insane by the Nails during a lucid moment and convinced him that his state was Horus and Angron's fault. They do some raiding for a month, then use the Captain's never-rescinded clearence to get off the planet, but get sent to Isstvan V instead of somewhere they could defect properly.
The Delegatus gets spotted by Traitor SoH during the Massacre and driven into the Depression where the two of them meet an IH Apothecary who cracked when Ferrus was killed. The Delegatus and his pair of absolute madmen eventually make it to a Loyalist evac zone with the SoH hot on their heels, and thentake part in the hijacking of an Army transport to flee the system.
At a supply station, they encounter an RT whose entourage includes an ex-WB Forge Lord who met some Gal Vorbak after the Pilgrimage and deserted because he decided Emps and Lorgar were both awful people. After a traitor attack, the survivors convince the RT to take them to Terra to report.
Meanwhile on Terra, a DA Destroyer, a SW Sniper, and a Templar have all arrived on various errands, and get flagged as candidates after the Eisenstein's report.
When the survivors arrive, Malcador seems to have looked at this lot, all but one being some combination of misanthropic, disloyal, and rug-chewingly insane; all of them from differing Legions with rivalries and wildly divergent philosophies and tactics; and decided they were exactly rag-tag enough to learn the true meaning of friendship and come together as an unbeatable team, or at least self-destruct somewhere in Traitor space (he's a connoisseur of ancient art, he knows how that works). So he puts the Delegatus in charge, commissions the RT as their ride, and sends them forth.
>>46461476
THis.
I thought about getting it and getting rid of the bad tribal and painting better, but by then what was the point of getting it?
hey guys, what squad do you guys put a delegatus in when you're playing lower points games (700-1250)? currently me and my mate are just playing with stuff out of b@c (though my first mk2 volkite squad comes in soon). I tried putting him in terminators, but idk what would you guys do?
>>46461597
vets, termies, outriders
>>46460295
10th Company Luna Wolved being lead by Garviel Loken. Just crusadin' against xenos for the Emprah
>>46461165
>Legion Vets(Company Vets? Chapter Vets?)
But why? I mean they got Sternguard/Vanguard for that, isnt that redundant? What the fuck is up with that shit.
>>46461804
Just like the DA ones, build your own/mix and match.
Besides what else could the third unit be from the box?
Cataphractii Captain? CM?
>>46461529
How do you field this in-game?
Didn't the Emperor make a book on Legionary Astarte tactics? Would it be considered holier than the Codex Astartes?
>>46460295
Blood Angels 102nd Company standing guard at an outpost in Ghoul Stars to hunt down the remains of a Xeno empire chased to the Ghoul Stars.
A Dangle Host that spent time with the Salamanders and took some of their culture in. I'm waiting for more info on the First Legion.
A Grand Battalion of Iron Warriors led by a Warsmith who nearly had a joy induced heart attack when he had the perfect opportunity to fire barrages of artillery at his treacherous Primarch.
I have mentioned my WIP SA here before, and I really need to make some fluff for that SoH 74th company and an AL company.
>>46461849
>Besides what else could the third unit be from the box?
Im not disputing that, its obviously something to do with the tactical sprue. I just think its craycray that they're making ANOTHER veteran unit when theres 4 already (Honor guard, Stern/Vanguard, Terminators), why even need a new unit when you can just sell it like FW, as a tactical box with a different armor.
>>46461908
I don't. They can be deployed individually, and the rest are assumed somewhere else on the planet as part of a larger plan.
Like I say, I had entirely too much fun rolling them up and trying to figure out how it worked.
>>46461529
Thanks, Anon. You didn't use the broken psyker tables versions, and used the 50 Shades of Decimation version right?
>>46460295
High Champion of the Palatine Blades follows his legion into damnation is Isstvan III and V. Later on in the heresy he is tasked with taking part in several raids on loyalist worlds alongside other elite formations of the Emperor's Children. Fabius Bile begins fucking with the genetics of bodies of him and the marines fighting alongside him. After several EC die due to complications from Bile's fuckery he decides to lead whoever is willing to follow him in a revolt against the commanders leading the raids. Eventually they overwhelm the marines loyal to Fulgrim and the commanders, with Bile barely escaping alive. Viewing themselves as forsaken to both their primarch and the Emperor, he leads whoever remains in defending worlds across the Imperium from the traitors, making sure to keep their distance from loyalist astartes out of fear of retribution.
On the tabletop the army is made up of a praetor with a paragon blade and charnabal sabre (special character rolled +1 WS, and his warlord trait is +1 WS for his unit on the turn they charge) alongside Palatine Blades, Honour Guards, Phoenix Guards, and Seekers with some Sicarans, tactical blobs, and land speeders.
Also the praetor is pretty lulzy in challenges, WS 8 and Initiative 7 or 8 in challenges on the turn he charges is certainly fitting for the champion of the Palatine Blades.
>>46462278
Did someone say CHAMPION?
>>46462362
Yes indeed, they said so
>>46462383
>>46462383
Anachronism Scoliosis is such a good portrait.
>>46460295
Terran Word-Bearers and EC contigent shattered Legion.
They were in the retinue of a Rogue Trader that was sent into the far reaches of...some remote region of the Galaxy (I don't know a lot about the 30k galaxy as i never read the BL books).
The idea was that the mission was suicidal anyway, the EC commander arrogantly accepted the invitation as a test of "skill" and the WB guys were one way Lorgar purged his Legion.
Now they are back and the Galaxy is burning.
Will tinker around with an alternative Blackshield list if I meet someone who dislikes Shattere Legions.
>>46458128
Considering who gulliman was fighting, they're probably just iron warrior power firsts or something.
Although, how would primary sized firsts fit Calgar...
>>46462189
I think it was the third last version, very late in the "where does Malcador find these people" stage, so nothing too broken came up. No uber-psykers or anything. The only issue was the rank inflation, and that was just weird rolling. Everything I rolled could be translated sensibly to the final version, anyway.
>>46462477
I want to see what portraits we'll get in Inferno, besides Magnus and Russ.
As I recall from the prototypes as the weekender, Russ looks like one of the dwarves from The Hobbit.
So what's better for 500pts Zone Mortalis?
Forge Lord
Castellax
Legionnaires
Legionnaires
OR
Legate
Velataris
Velataris
Ogryn
>>46462681
Good to hear. I'm still glad that wasn't a civilian generator. With all of those psykers I think the Emperor would have enough batteries for life support. I still got to name my KE.
>>46460295
Still working on it, but: Knight House Cephalon.
A small, self-sufficient nomadic knight house that travels directly from battlefield to battlefield, despite never having their presence requested nor receiving support from any organization.
They arrive to support loyalist forces moments before the beginning of hostilities and have an unusual number of Preceptors within their ranks. Combined with the bizarre reports from Mechanicum forces that have observed them, House Cephalon lingers just long enough to accomplish their task and "borrow" resources before moving on to their next battle, not giving anyone a chance to bring about accusations of sorcery.
More recently the knights encountered a Thousand Sons expedition and have begun to actively support them, breaking from their nomadic habit.
>>46462744
It's 500 pts ZM dude... Go with the army you like best.
Why are the Gal Vorbak models true scale yet nothing else?
>>46462826
Because Gal Vorbak are a modellers wet dream.
>>46462639
>how would Primarch sized firsts fit Calgar
That's a big power fist
>>46462938
Those fists look like they could use a little patching up.
>>46462826
It's too awkward at this point.
>>46462938
Since the firsts were obviously made for a Primarch... Whose were they originally?
>>46459142
I like it quite a lot for a contemptor. I didn't like the other tranny sons upgrades, but I'm kind of feeling this thing. It would look good in shimmering metallic blue-purple with gold trims.
Still not getting it though.
>>46463141
Weren't they a non-primarch chaos lord's?
>>46463141
Perturabo. He already has gun mounted fists.
>>46463170
Yes but maybe they gifted to said champion.
>>46459615
Alpha Legion
Iron Warriors
Dark Angels
Imperial Fists
>>46459615
>Death Guard or Iron Hands
>Word Bearers or Iron Warriors
>Iron Hands or World Eaters
>Iron Warriors
Even in death Pert gets cucked
>>46463232
But those aren't power fists. He just naturally punches as hard as a plasma rifle. For that I'd take a look at Guilliman's or Horus'
>>46463322
>But those aren't power fists. He just naturally punches as hard as a plasma rifle.
All of that nerd rage empowers him.
>Horus
I can see it.
>>46462278
The headcannon so far for my Hunter-Killer Mission shattered legion force's commander.
>One of the original 200 legionnaires.
>Eventually made the Line-Captain of the 67th Company.
>Quietly despised Fulgrim for the weakness of their geneseed allowing it to be sabotaged into extinction.
>Big advocate of the arts and the beauty of the human form. Often enjoyed the company of concubines selected amongst the remembrancers of La Fenice, rumour would have them be found abandoned among the darker corners of the ship torn in body and broken in will.
>Admired Ferrus Manus and his Iron Hands for their 'survival of the fittest' outlook. It preventing such weaknesses he thought apparent amongst his gene-brothers and sire.
>The seeds of heresy are planted and Fulgrim attempts to seduce Ferrus to the side of the traitors.
>Fulgrim's failure to do such further feeds the depths of his contempt. He instead turns it into a cold fury turned upon the unknowing Iron Hands as the order is given to eliminate any nearby legionnaires and withdraw to Istvaan.
>Assigned to Fulgrim's efforts to prepare Istvaan V for the coming loyalist assault and is. A duty he finds himself enjoying far more than he would ever have thought. To the point of worrying him.
>Iron Hands assault on the traitors begin and the true horrors of what had occured during the Maraviglia is now visible to him.
>Him now fighting the Hands for survival rather than duty.
>The neurological improvements made upon him by Fabius allowing him much more powerful emotions. Originally meant to enhance pleasure and pain.
>Only the rage of being unable to affect one's fate.
>The Gorgon's head falls.
>Now only an urge for vengeance.
>Starts hacking his way through squads of equally enraged Iron Hands, channeling his traitorous rage into the ones he'd rather have aided.
>Later would have his dedication questioned after the campaign leading to the 'Angel Exterminatus' being born.
>>46463796
Not entirely done with this scrub-level writefaggotry but pokes on how fucking stupid or decent this is would be appreciated.
Anyone played against or own a Warlord? Kind of want one... Kind of want three...
>>46458103
My Master of Signal took out an entire Krios Venator blob with his barrage on Turn 1.
>>46462723
Ahzek and the 13th great company captain?
>>46463796
>>Big advocate of the arts and the beauty of the human form. Often enjoyed the company of concubines selected amongst the remembrancers of La Fenice, rumour would have them be found abandoned among the darker corners of the ship torn in body and broken in will.
But he can't even use his junk anymore. Other than that sounds great to me.
>>46463994
Bulveye, the 13th company captain has literally appeared once. I was thinking more likely someone like Gunnar Gunnhilt, Ogvai Helmschrot or Amlodhi Skarssen Skarssensson.
>>46463814
>>46463796
A little dramatic, but it's EC, so it fits.
However, it's clear the author likes his creation too much; there is no mention of outward failings or downsides on part of the character, anything going wrong is the fault of others.
>>46464100
Yeah but GW has a hard on for wulfen.
Also, we know literally nothing of two of the guys you mentioned and we only have several paragraphs on ogvai, while Bulveye had a whole short story
>>46464105
I'll blame it on being tired. Going to give it a much more worthy go tomorrow.
>>46464093
Pretty sure there was a mention of some RG dude mentioning that he could, but that it would just rip the poor woman apart, no?
>>46464100
i'd be fine with Skarsson,
still, think we get rules for Phosis T'kar
>>46464165
I won't know about that. That sounds more like a SW than a RG.
>>46464189
Yeah, Phosis is a pretty tragic figure so I think he'll be getting rules.
And what about the Custodes?
Valdor is 100% confirmed, will Tauromachian be as well?
>>46464128
Given that Gav's writing a novella titled 'The 13th Wolf' to coincide with the release of Inferno, you may well be right.
>>46464138
Go forth and be excellent, anon.
>>46464204
Might be. Memory is kinda fuzzy
>>46460295
TS with scarred or missing eye to match Magnus' sacrifice of his eye for power.
>>46464093
Nothing in that quote requires the use of one's junk.
>>46463796
>Big advocate of the arts and the beauty of the human form. Often enjoyed the company of concubines selected amongst the remembrancers of La Fenice, rumour would have them be found abandoned among the darker corners of the ship torn in body and broken in will.
This is the only real thing I have an issue with, not because it is edgy as hell (40k is edge the setting anyway) but simply because it seems somewhat uncharacteristic. The guy hates his primarch for being weak but gladly follows his legion's original interests in culture and eventually their perversions of culture. If you can justify it by all means keep it, but it seems rather weird that the guy who hates his own legion and primarch wouldn't just take after them but fall in a similar manner.
A better idea might be to make him more akin to the Iron Hands than the Emperor's Children. He likes messing with machinery and has no problem replacing his beautiful face with augementics or letting his pure human form become damaged so he can get superior mechanical replacements. So while his fellow astartes are painting or making sculptures this guy is doing pushups, tinkering with his mechanical arm, or tweaking his armour to give him the slightest edge in combat. After all plenty of astartes felt more kinship with other legions than their own in part due to the lodges and in part because they joined before their primarch was found and didn't have much in common with their primarch and/or the newer generations of marines.
>>46464105
>there is no mention of outward failings or downsides on part of the character, anything going wrong is the fault of others.
While I agree with this assessment one could easily construe it to make the character seem flawed.
>It isn't my fault that I fell to Chaos the other officers around me led me into damnation
>There was nothing I could do on Isstvan III, it was either them or me
>I didn't have a choice on Isstvan V, the Iron Hands charged us and I had to defend myself
In effect he keeps blaming others or circumstances for his bad behaviors or failures even when it is patently obvious that as many points it was ultimately his fault that he failed or fell.
Slaanesh Daemonkin when?
What's the point of playing Night Lords when Raven Guard is a thing?
>>46464657
please ignore my retardation I thought this was the 40k general. Will go and commit soduku
>>46464670
You get to be like the raven guard when they weren't fags?
>>46464670
You wanted to play NL and this is the fluff game not the WAAC game.
>>46464670
whats the point of playing raven guard when alpha legion is a thing?
>Tfw live in village of 47 people
>Nearest store is 16 miles away and it's a GW
>The kids there don't want to pit their tau against legions
I just want somebody to play with.
>>46457665
RaW says that a Tercio can take 1-3 Dracosans. Says nothing about limiting it to the number of squads within the Tercio.
Can I take a Tercio of 1 Lasrifle Platoon, and then buy them 3 Demolisher-Dracosans? So I'd be getting 3 Not-Vindicators as a single Troops unit.
> Or rather, 3 of them in an Allied contingent.
>>46464861
Shouldn't Tau rape legion lists?
>>46460295
I'm modelling my BA force after 3rd Company, but it's hard to fluff them since they were at Signus and apparently the Signus campaign was FIVE FUCKING YEARS long and the Heresy was only seven. So they were probably dicking around with the Imperium Secundus and then at the siege of terra.
I also might make some EC allies for them, thinking maybe garrisoned loyalists who forsake their legion and perhaps find safety in the Blood Angels.
>>46464995
Easily.
>>46464995
Is there a list Tau can't rape?
>>46464861
It's better to not even play than it is to subject yourself to playing with Tau formation faggots in a goddamn GW of all places. Especially with them not wanting to play vs a Legion? I imagine they are the worst of the worst kind of player.
>Corvus was an Anon who became a mod
What
>>46464951
Dracosans are DTs. You can't take a DT without a squad to whom dedicate it to.
>>46464995
They told me legion lists are too OP to be fun to play against, I honestly have no idea. The store attendant was quite hostile now that I think about it, when I told him I brought along some legion stuff he looked at me like he'd just caught me with my dick in his mums favourite sheep, which is a shame because the previous attendant was the one who helped me get into HH.
>>46465115
>tau player asks me to play a 1500p game
>only army I can play atm is a shitty tyrant's legion army
>"Ok, can you bring a relaxed list since my army is not competetive in any way?"
>"sure mate"
>brings out a riptide with a bunch crisis suits
>>46464861
Which is a good thing for you. 30k armies minus the Mechanium even after the nerfs don't go so hot against 40k armies. Sorry about no one playing with you.
>>46465125
I made a comparison in the last thread. Corax was an Anon who saw a 40k general go bait beyond bait and banned the Anons responsible(Terran RG).
>>46465183
>store attendant being hostile
I have heard that happening before.
>>46464670
This is the HH general, not the 40k general.
>>46465218
>I made a comparison in the last thread. Corax was an Anon who saw a 40k general go bait beyond bait and banned the Anons responsible(Terran RG).
yeah corax was a faggot
>>46465218
Oh I see.
>>46464670
>What's the point of playing Raven Guard when Night Lords are a thing?
FTFY :^)
>>46465183
My local GW manager behaved the same way regarding Forgeworld models. I stopped going back when he publicly berated me for 'being cheesy' because I wanted to use a Fire Raptor in my shitty CSM mechanized list.
>>46465230
I think he's memeing. I've seen posts like that before.
>>46465252
How? It's was Perturabo, Terran RG, and Horus's fault. All of that was too much for him, much like that hypothetical thread. The 40k General has lost major quality ever since October.
>>46458103
A game where a BC Tercio took down an entire Contemptor talon by themselves. Fucking heroes.
>>46465204
The sad part is that this is what tau consider not competitive.
>>46465458
What would be the ultimate competitive tau list?
>>46465322
>How? It's was Perturabo, Terran RG, and Horus's fault.
>its not corax fault its everybody elses
corax was an idiot who sent away his best warriors, because they werent pussies like corax.
hes ether a hypocrite or an idiot, even in book 3 or whatever it was, it was like 'corax brought the planet into compliance, ofcourse they became slaves, but corax didnt know that'.
>>46464657
Never. GW only releases Marines and Khorne
>>46465539
2000 points of Shas'Obamas
>>46462477
Wasted desu, he'll never be very relevant in fluff.
They should have used it for Kelbor-Hal or some shit
>>46465592
>corax was an idiot who sent away his best warriors, because they werent pussies like corax.
Yeah rushing the gate was such a great plan, also warrior lodges.
>>46465621
>Yeah rushing the gate was such a great plan
worked well for pert...
also corax was such a weak leader that he let his legion get cucked by fucking perturabo of all people.
>>46465620
Wasn't kelbor hal about 98% machine though? Weren't the only pieces that were still organic were a few little chunks of brain?
>>46465717
Not really. Pert wanted mk6 to fail but that failed for him.
>>46464809
What's the point of playing alpha legion when alpha legion is a thing?
>>46465720
>the only pieces that were still organic were a few little chunks of brain
Noob
>>46465592
>>46465621
>>46465717
Cawcaw is a retard
But he's a cute retard
>>46465620
>He'll never be very relevant in the fluff
He invented daemon engines, maybe he contributes more to the fluff. Draykavak hadn't done anything in the book he was introduced, then captured Paramar with Alpharius and...yeah, you're right, it didn't amount to much in the end.
But he has a bitchin cow skull
>>46465795
kek
>>46465756
pert just wanted to fuck with corax because corax fought like a coward and didnt do the hard work like the IW did.
its like
>horus tells pert to zerg rush that wall of guns
>he sucks it up and does it
>horus tells birdman to rush that wall of guns
>birdman whines about it and says that he could do the same thing, in 10x the amount of times, by just running away
perts like no motherfucker its your turn.
>>46465857
I don't watch anime
I don't understand this meme
somebody please help I'm scared
>>46465967
shes a robot
a sexy robot
its also one of the only weeb cartoons that isnt complete dogshit
>>46465933
Perturabo wanted mk6 to fail so a new one made for heavier assaults would be made.
>also Zerg rushing a wall of guns
>good idea ever
Work smarter not just harder.
>>46459142
FW just can't win, people ask for 40K thousand sons stuff and when they get it they say it's hideous. Sorry guys but you're space Egyptians, deal with it.
>>46465967
...yeah, this isn't /a/, srry.
She started as a human, but got crippled as a child on an plane crash. Now her body is almost entirely a machine, even her brain. So much that she wonders whether she is a human with a machine body or a machine who believes it started as a humanIn the end she fuses with an AI and her body is killed, yet she lives on as a new version of artificial live
>>46466055
There's only one kind of space egyptians.
>>46466089
Necrons should be space Terminator, not some shitty Egyptian ripoff.
>>46466059
>an plane crash
BANE?
>>46466055
The Sons have always been space Egyptians.
>>46466130
Please don't start.
>>46457665
Guys what was your view of the heresy before GW pulled back the curtain?
You know, back when it was only hinted at and we had only a few stories from the time.
What was your view of the Primarchs?
>>46466050
>Work smarter not just harder.
see thats the problem with corax, hes lazy and unwilling to do whatever it takes. thats why he dumped the terran RG who actually knew how to get shit done
if the enemy is in a heavily fortified position, and you cant starve them out (takes a long time) and you cant lure them out, cant infiltrate them, then you have to suck it up and go storm the trenches.
corax is all like 'no, my new prissy RG are too good for that kind of thing, just let us fuck around trying to lure them out for months instead of just storming them and getting it done within like 16 hours'. thats why horus and pert rolled their eyes at him and told him to suck it up.
>>46466055
Egyptians didn't put bunny ears and flat winged scarabs as round chest pieces.
This is like the Taurox where the design is aped from real life without actually understanding how things work
>>46466129
They were space terminators with a light mummy motiff before Ward did his Ward-thing
>>46465204
Tau players, not even once.
Saw a tau player bring a stormsurge, draigo, and saint cellestine in a 1100 point game against an infantry heavy ig list.
>>46466147
IIRC The "curtain" was pulled back on Index Astartes which was like 2003ish. I'm not oldfag enough but I do see old fluff from the 90's that basically had Horus as a human general who rebelled on Terra itself.
>>46466147
Almost the same way now minus the skub of the novel series. Remove all of that and we're silver. We wouldn't be golden due to this series being milked out.
>>46466149
>>46466149
>cant infiltrate them,
That's thinking inside the box, and Alpharius would also disagree with you.
>>46466194
Yeah, that codex was my second ever after Imperial Guard. Still salty.
>>46466130
>>46466144
It was part of his plan
>>46466275
Why does he wear the mask?
Is this a fair assessment of Tactical Support Squads?
>flamers useless unless you have access to Drop Pods
>rotor cannons just suck
>volkite calivers too short range to camp in a building effectively while being heavy limits movement
>volkite chargers decent if you take ground with a Rhino/infiltrate/scout
>plasma guns to become a stupidly expensive glass cannon
>meltaguns to become a stupidly expensive glass cannon that needs a Drop Pod
>>46466282
Because your meme burned his face off.
>>46466282
As much as I love the meme, I'm baned out, srsly. I'm the same guy from the Thunderhawk in previous thread, you know?No anon, a CIA is you
>>46466296
MkII-III support squad with volkites can pretend they're GC era vets.
>>46466304
Was it extremely painful?
>>46466228
>That's thinking inside the box, and Alpharius would also disagree with you.
alpharius would agree with me, considering the alpha legion conducted fucking massive seige and armored warfare assaults.
alpharius understood that covert ops shit is all well and good, but isnt a be all end all and is worthless in certain situations. something corax never understood, and thus got rid of his best warriors.
>>46466304
Maybe next thread tho...
>>46466335
Nigga, the Alphas did everything, but mainly it was undercover operations.
He didn't just infiltrated, he made them fucking kill themselves, but yeah, he could siege when it was needed.
It's just that he always wanted to cover ops, that's pretty much the source of his problems with his brothers, not helped by them being a colossal bunch of dicks
>>46466334
Actually no. Didn't feel a thing.
>>46466335
You're thinking in the box still. Sometimes you just have to get creative. Or take the lazy man's route and throw Mortarion's laundry at them.
>>46466345
It's kind of old, Anon.
>>46466282
Perhaps he's wondering why shoot an astartes before throwing him out of a storm eagle
>>46466335
This.
Alpha Legion acted like a typical legion by and large. But on the side they had a MASSIVE amount of intelligence gathering, information warfare and sabotage elements to the legion.
But they didn't rely on that entirely. That would be dumb. They used it to enchance the rest of the legion.
>>46466304
How many thunderhawks has this meme crashed so far?
>>46466275
I mean the wink as a "that's right, stop it there". If you love a meme, the worst thing you could do is to force it. Aaaaah what have I dooooone
>>46466405
>You're thinking in the box still.
no, thats how warfare works, if you cant just shell them from orbit then you have to go in there and kill them, unless you want to waste months trying to lure them out like corax.
>Sometimes you just have to get creative.
getting creative is what horus did, when he said 'storm the gates corax, then ill deepstrike and kill their command'. corax is the one who isnt creative when literally the ONLY thing he was willing to do is covert and recon shit, being one dimensional.
I'm thinking about putting together an army based on the survivors of the Eisenstein. I'd be using the old fluff though, so I'd use the Shattered Legion rules to have Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Death Guard, Thousand Sons, and Luna Wolves.
The Shattered Legion rules states that Legion specific choices require an HQ from that Legion. Does that mean Legion specific units or does it include wargear too eg chainaxes for World Eaters?
Also, would Garro count as a Death Guard HQ for Shattered Legions, even though he's now a Knight Errant?
>>46466491
You know, I still find it funny that it's Russ, of all people, that calms things between Pert and CawCaw.
I know the barbarian thing is mostly an act for him, but still, that's funny
>>46466282
Memes aside, this guy is one of the biggest bros BL has written
>>46466541
I've been told he was actually sober that time
>>46466491
But looked what happened. The RG got knocked down to 80,000 marines though that did get rid of Horus's influence within the legion.
>>46466554
That was me who told you that. I assumed he was sober at the time.
>>46466147
>>46466217
IIRC William King wrote the first story of the Horus Heresy way back in the nineties, you can probably still find it in the HH book archive where it's listed as #0.
As for the story itself, it...was not good. The writing and dialogue are just awful, and it was genuinely a difficult read for anything except historical interest.
The story is largely the same in broad strokes, except for the jarring mentions of campier units from the earlier editions and Horus just being another human general. There's a reference to the Emperor musing on Horus 'as if he was a son,' but none of the primarchs are acknowledged as his children or comport themselves as such.
>>46466537
>The Shattered Legion rules states that Legion specific choices require an HQ from that Legion. Does that mean Legion specific units or does it include wargear too eg chainaxes for World Eaters?
I'd say the rule only applies to legion specific units, not warhead and such.
>Also, would Garro count as a Death Guard HQ for Shattered Legions, even though he's now a Knight Errant?
IIRC he has no death guard rules so cannot lead a shattered Legion.
>>46466692
Maybe he should also train for frontal assaults instead of only covert ops.
Everyone should do everything, because astartes are meant to excel at everything. And yep, I'm citing both Girlyman and Alpharius
>That was me who told you that. I assumed he was sober at the time.
That was me who said you said that. I assumed you assumed he was sober at the time
>>46466692
>But looked what happened. The RG got knocked down to 80,000 marines
yeah, because corax improperly prepared them for the realities of warfare.
thats also why they only had like 1k marines or some shit after istvaan v, their numbers were probably even lower than the salamanders and iron hands.
they had more surviving terran raven guard, that corax had banished, than they even had 'official' marines after istvaan v.
>>46466554
It helps that, despite his rep, he is one of the most experienced commanders of the Crusade.
Him and Ferrus are two of the most senior primarchs after Horus, and from time to time it shows
>>46466799
The banished ones did become the Space Sharks which is a good thing though.
>>46466405
>You're thinking in the box still.
>Says others are thinking inside the box
>Tries to apply one tactic to every situation
>>46466541
>>46466807
He was also one of the Primarchs who counselled against ruining Lorgar's life at Monarchia.
Was Russ the Crusade's bunny-ears diplomat?
>>46466880
ironically the terran RG are probably the only example of a 'banished legion' or 'successor chapter' actually doing more than its founder.
>>46466920
>who are Black Templars
>>46466880
And ashen claws, shit there might be a third group of terran raven guard out there fucking about.
>>46466884
I didn't see the box for its walls.
>>46466920
There's that supply issue they have though.
>>46466946
Tyberos's helmet was in book 3.
>>46466938
BT have done more than some legions, but not the IF.
the predation fleets literally did more than the RG
>>46466920
Just goes to show how much of a queer Corax was for hating on slavery.
He and his dindu posse can sit around being mutated, the Ashen Claws and Carcharadons are flying around claiming hot, fresh pussy for the Imperium (????) in the Halo Stars.
>>46466974
I was going to blatantly disagree with that, arguing how many termie helmets with rivets on the head there are in the galaxy, when I remembered FW released Sigismund twice, after deeming the previous model unfit for milking our wallets. And it was the same tabard, of which only one exists in the galaxy. Because reasons.
>>46466985
Really now? All IF did was build walls and get their shit smashed in at the Iron Cage
