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>You are a planeswalker.
>In the vast Multiverse, only you and some other chucklefucks know of the countless worlds beyond your own.

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Starter topic: This week's Magic Story is "The Mystery of Markov Manor," by James Wyatt.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/mystery-markov-manor-2016-03-30

Not really a lot of new information to discuss, but Jace apparently doesn't have as much control over his psychic sensitivity as he might like.

Before people ask, yes, Jace has been to Kamigawa before, in Agents of Artifice.
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What is the least creative plane and why is it Ravnica?
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>>46349668
I'd rather argue for Zendikar without any Eldrazi fuckery.

It's basically just a huge "nature" plane with barely anything unique going for it once you take away the hedrons and eldrazi.
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So Edgar Markov's still alive somewhere in the mansion, obviously.

That about sums up the total of new information gleaned from this fiction.
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So "Jace gets a book: The Chapter"?
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>>46349855
And takes a bad acid trip.
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How did the beef between Lilliana and Garruk start? I get that he's cursed or whatever, but did she do that for giggles or was there some event that kicked everything off?
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>>46349970
They were both minding their own business near each other, then one of the living animals Garruk wanted to befriend attacked her and she did what black does and utterly slaughtered it in self defense.
Garruk took offense to that and attacked her, with the fight playing out exactly how you'd excpect from a standard green stompie deck goiing against Modern Mono-B Zombies or something. The fight ended when she used the chain veil to fuck him up in an effort to get him off her back. Instead he started hunting her to make her remove the curse and she sees him more as a nuisance than anything.
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>>46349970
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/hunter-and-veil-part-1-2008-07-30

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/hunter-and-veil-part-2-2008-08-06

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/hunter-and-veil-part-3-2008-08-13
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That chapter was poorly written and gave pretty much no new information
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>>46350153
Other than why did Tamiyo send Jenrik to his death (probably wanted his sick tower) and how will the madness impact Jace.
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>>46350084
>>46350093
Fucking Onakke, messing with everything.
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>>46350222
But who messed with the Onakke?

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/veil-deceit-2014-07-01
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>>46350339
What if Lili shoved some of the curse off onto the moon?
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>>46350492
Well the moon is probably a giant helvault.
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>>46350518
My god
IT'S A HELVAULT FOR INNISTRADI ELVES AND NISSA WILL BREAK IT IN SPOOKY MOON.
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>>46350552
>So the Moon is like a giant hedron
>>Elf
>And all of Innistrad's elves are trapped inside
>>Stop it, Elf
>If I can bond with the mana of Innistrad-
>>Elf, no
>I can probably create enough mana to break the moon and free the elves~
>>Don't do it Elf, I will fucking cut you
>But then they'll all fall from the sky....
>>-vampire sigh of relief-
>I've got it!
>>!!!
>I'll use vines to bring the moon to the ground!
>>Don't do it Elf!
>Chandra!
>>!!!
>>>What's up
>I'm going to bring the moon to the ground, then you can blow it up and free the elves!
>>NO
>>>Sounds Great!
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>>46349547
Did anyone else notice that fucking tense change midway through the story? That was godawful.
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Am I the only one thinking Jace saw through Sorins memories?
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Is Urza's ghost going to appear in Eldritch Moon?
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>>46350858
I was caught off guard by it, but I liked it to since it better portrayed what Jace was experiencing and the shift was intentionally to catch the reader off guard.
>>46350915
No, but I can see that up until a certain point. Maybe it's Sorin's memories in the chapel.
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>>46349547
The angel blood ritual was the only new information in the whole story.
I thought angels were just pure mana so if you cut them open they wouldn't have blood and guts. This makes me wonder about angel anatomy even moreso than usual.
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>>46351055
No it's not, we knew how Vampires came to be.
That it is silvery might be new.
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>>46351169
Oh. Then it's completely pointless then.
Incompetent blue mage stumbles through empty house, barely escapes despite facing no hostility.
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>>46351254
Like I said earlier, he found Tami's journal and another question on why she sent the astronomer with her journal to Markov manor.
Was she imperiled and thinking the vampires would be willing to help?
Did she want his sick ass lighthouse to chill out at?
Are you just going to ignore everything I wrote?
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>I should go, he thought, but it drew him in. Patterns formed and dissipated in the drifting stones, some hint that the pieces of the castle were arranged by an intelligent mind, some promise that there was meaning behind the incredible destruction. It's a puzzle, he thought, and puzzles want to be solved.

Because blue mages likes puzzles and it seems Jace is a blue mage. If there's anything a blue mage (the color of puzzle solving) likes is solving puzzles, especially an unsolved one, their sole motivation.
>MUH PUZZLE
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>>46351405
OH MY GOD JACE IS AUTISTIC I MUST SHITPOST ALL OVER $CHAN
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>46351346
Asking questions =/= answering them.
This is filler, plain and simple.
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>>46351440
Hello Maro, how's the Jacetice League doing?
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>>46351481
>fillers are a bad thing
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>>46351530
?

???
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>>46349547
holy shit.

The story hasn't moved since avaycn's article has it?


This slow drip is infuriating.
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>>46351492
>Wow he was making fun of 4chan, must be Maro!
Glad to see Narset isn't the only autistic one.
>>46351481
It still happened and progressed the story (Jace finding Tamiyo's journal and starting on the first steps of his journey.)
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>>46351588
>It still happened and progressed the story (Jace finding Tamiyo's journal and starting on the first steps of his journey
Unless the whole psychic residue hallucination thing is important (it isn't), then that whole thing could have taken ten minutes. Then they could have combined it with next week's story about Jace pissing off Lilliana, which I'm sure will be just as excruciatingly slow, contrived, and pointless.
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>>46350824
Poor Sorin.
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>>46351544
Including something not strictly connected to the main plot / taking it slow dilating the story in a lot of chapter isn't a bad thing, if done decently (an example of indecence was the three consecutive ASHAYAAAAAAAAAA chapters this summer). It's also the only fucking difference left between URs and Tumblr-tier fanfiction. Imagine how shittier "Magic Story" would be if it was condensed in 4/5 chapters.
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>>46349668
>>46349748
Have you forgotten that Theros was a plane?
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>>46351708
At least there's potential in Theros, Zendikar just exists for Eldrazi.
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What would the elemental representations (read: tree-things) of the other planes, besides Zendikar, be?
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>>46351492
You might not care, but others do.
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>>46351682
>Implying there isn't a reason he's experiencing psychic residue now instead of when he was surrounded by death on Zendikar
Gee Anon, can you give us some information with your inside line to WotC?
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>>46351766
Made me kek so hard when I read that.
I wonder if he meant fans, or if he's acknowledging that they can't handle criticism.
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>>46351796
OR maybe they can handle criticism but don't like smug ass fans shitting on them with memes
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>>46351688
To be Sorin is to suffer.
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>>46349547
What color has the hottest chicks? My vote is between white and black.

>inb4 Chandra and other literally hot women
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>>46351920
Green has the most centaurs.
Blue takes second place with all the mermaids.
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>>46351756
There's potential in every plane. That doesn't change the character of what already exists.
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>>46351952
But backless dress angels and sultry half-naked vampire womens
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>>46351952
Don't forget the cutie soratami and all the hot rogue chicks.
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>>46351839
Mark, is that actually you?
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>>46352004
What hot rogue chicks? Fish women?
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>>46351760
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>>46352006
Yes
It is I, Mark Rosewater
because apparently I am the only person who would get annoyed by the Jacetice League Meme and would subsequently come to 4chan to argue with autists and talk about magic waifus.
Now go back to masturbating to your force of will deck.
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>>46352035

>>46352125
Thanks for coming clean, Mark. Honesty means a lot.
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>>46352143
I see your point but hope there are more
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So it's Sorin who's fucking with Jace's head right?
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>>46352207
You don't need to hope, anon
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>>46352143
I hope you enjoy it when Nahiri and Sorin join the gatewatch at the end of Eldritch Moon when Sorin apologizes to her for leaving the Eldrazi on Zendikar.
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>>46352231
I think it is the madness that is pervading the plane.
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>>46352282

I know the creative team have gone out of their way to prop up "Avacyn sprung into being as a robot that has never had any real contact with Sorin," but this always felt like it worked better to me.
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>>46352282
>Teenager Avacyn
What is this feeling ?
Is this what you feel when you discover your waifu ?
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>>46352282
>I think it is the oil that is pervading the plane.


fixed for you
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>>46352207
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>>46352302
Kek.
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>>46352231
>When some stupid, nasty bitch makes your daughter turn rebellious and you have to punish her
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>>46352443

What's probably particularly troublesome for Sorin was that, in his own way, he apparently considered Nahiri the daughter he never had while never really treating Avacyn like she was a person.

Now the woman he thought of like a daughter is working to destroy his realm, and turned the creation perhaps he should have thought of as one against its people, and based on Sorin's thoughts when present Nahiri came up in Tarkir, he blames himself.
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I kind of want the block to end with Sorin snapping Nahiri's neck, not because I'm a frogposter or anything like that, but because it would put him in direct conflict with Ugin and we could get a scene of his telling the dragon to shove it up his ass.
Ugin gets on him about killing Nahiri and he stops the Spirit dragon in mid sentence.
>Before I had met you, Dragon, I had two daughters and now they are both dead by my hand because you refused to tell us the Eldrazi could be killed. Do not cast your shadow over this plane any longer or I will-
>>An empty threat, Sorin, we both know I would win in a fight.
>I will tell the gatewatch where your homeplane is
>>.....
>Go
>>You wouldn't dare-
>NOW!
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>>46352506
It better be something truly heinous that got her this mad rather than madness or Sorin feeling bad that he went to go look for help.

If it's something stupid that lead to the death of my angelfu and the wrecking of best plane I am going to be pissed.
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>>46352546
Where would Sorin's plot even progress after this?
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>>46352546

I am thinking Sorin and Ugin are gonna have words over this no matter how it turns out.

Given what Ugin's already been dealing with with the Gatewatch, it'd be interesting if he finally got sick of the stupid cattle he's been enlisting to help him constantly letting petty emotions mess everything up and makes it clear he's willing to be just as bad as Bolas if it gets the results he needs.
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>>46352630
>Sigarda
>>!!!
>Put you heron scythe sickle thing down, I could break you and you fucking know it.
>>What do you want
>I'm entrusting you with the power to protect this plane, I originally made Avacyn to do that, but that plan went south.
>>What about you?
>I- I need to travel for a bit, see some planes and get a new perspective. Rabbit! Mind Mage, what's the Rabbit's name?
>>>Tamiyo?
>Tamiyo, where are you going?
>>>>I'll probably go to Kamigawa for a bit.
>Very well, I will follow you there.
set up for Sorin and Tammy having adventure across the multiverse
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>>46352843
Jiang shi variations is go
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>>46352546
>kind of want the block to end with Sorin snapping Nahiri's neck
Don't we all? She deserves it.
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>>46353243

I'm more curious about what will happen with the angels and humans at the end of this.

The humans need the angels to survive, but this fuckery is going to do a number on the absolute trust the humans once had that one fucking thing on this plane wasn't trying to kill them.

Avacyn was gone for a YEAR in the original block and human extinction loomed nigh. I don't feel like Sigarda's going to be able to pick up where she left off when the dust settles, especially if Gisela and Bruna can't be saved either.
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>>46353293
I honestly hadn't even considered the possibility that Innistrad would survive through this until now. Of course, I'm also convinced that Emrakul will show up.
It fits a narrative cliche. Story meeting went like:
>the last block had 2/3 monsters destroy 99% of a plane. How do we top that this block?
>I know! Make the third monster destroy 100% of a plane!

And you know, it wouldn't even bother me. I'm okay with gothic horror turning "cosmic", and any threat loses meaning when there's no follow through. And how much more can they milk Innistrad anyways?
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For some reason I find the idea of the three Eldrazi being like Ed, Edd n Eddy quite funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7Ioy1LMg8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrqxPBFsTBY
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>>46353243
Part of me doesn't because I love reconciliation at the end of stories
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>>46353454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jykA1UreYs
>eldrazi conscription.mkv
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>>46353564
I like the idea but I've never seen it done well. Not that it doesn't exist, just that I've never personally seen it. And I doubt Wizards could do it right.
My prediction is that Nahiri escapes any sort of comeuppance and Sorin is made out to be the bad guy.
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>>46353387

I wish they'd just left Innistrad alone. One of the things I liked about AVR was that after Zendikar got fucked, and Mirrodin got fucked, we finally had a plane where disaster was averted without sacrificing the plane's theme.

Now Zendikar, which I never particularly cared for, got saved, quite improbably, and it's depressingly likely Innistrad, one of my favorite planes, is going to get its good end taken away to get fucked to raise the stakes after OGW's deus ex machina.
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Apparently SOI prerelease is on the same day of the International autism day lol
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>>46353865
...but AVR was all about sacrificing the plane's theme.
That's all AVR WAS, sacrificing the plane's theme for ANGELS AND MORE ANGELS and a few shitty demons
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>>46354248

Eh. Seemed to me more like the horror story where the survivors get what they need after being pushed to the brink and striking back. The monsters lose, but this being a horror setting, they'll be back.

I just think that's more interesting than "human extinction, fuck you."
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>>46354376
It's more "Horror story, horror story...NOW SUPER TRIUMPHANT ANGELS VS DEMONS FUCK YEAH FUCK YEAH WHAT'S THAT YOU WANTED WEREWOLVES AND VAMPIRES AND ZOMBIES AND SHIT FUCK YOU HAVE SOME ANGELS AND DEMONS PROTIP THE ANGELS WON ALREADY BEFORE THE SET ACTUALLY HAPPENED"
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>>46354458

That's kinda what happens when you build up that the cosmology of the plane is all about the battle between demons and angels and then destroy the thing that was holding both sides back from duking it out again.
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>>46354458
It's not like all the horror was removed just because the humans had a triumphant moment.
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>>46352125
I can't believe there's people like you.
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>>46350931
The raven man isn't dead Urza, it's not even a person. It's just a figment of Liliana's imagination which she has manifested by animating a bunch of dead ravens in a cloak
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Was hoping we'd see Sorin.
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>>46352231
It's probably an enchantment to protect against intruders, whether they be angry humans, werewolves, angels or rival vampire families.
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>>46354678
>Implying it isn't Not Yawgmoth reaching out to Lil just like he did to Karona
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>>46354713
Yawgmoth is pretty dead, and I think they've made it nearly impossible for non-planeswalkers to travel between planes now
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>>46354791
I wonder, is it still possible to do Planar overlays or was yawg the only being powerful enough to actually do it?
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>>46354791
Memes aside, I'll be mad if he's just another mind fuckery for Jace to deal with. If he's not related to something pre-mending I'll be mad
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>>46354713
>even in super death Yawgmoth was the biggest corrupter in MTG lore
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>>46350931
>Urza mind fucking Lil to somehow get her to revive him
>Returns as the new Father of Machines
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>>46354827
As much as we know it is still possible. That being said the amount of energy and prep time needed to do one is insane
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What if yawgmoth was the one who killed the onakke.
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>>46350858
I was already paying so little attention to it at that point, so not at all
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>>46355010
Well, the Onakke guy made pretty clear that Lili was chosen for some yet unexplained task since even before she ignited
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>>46355122
What if Lilliana orbits my dick?
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>>46354713
Uh...yeah? Didn't the other person say it was a figment of her imagination, a hallucination?
Just like what Karona saw?
Why are you arguing yet saying the same thing?
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>>46355158
Jace pls
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>>46355050
>yfw the moon is just one of the Artificial planes Yawgmoth made
>he warped it in above Innistrad as a test run for Dominaria
>The Phyrexians on it are just waking up
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Hey guys Avacyn isn't dead, here is the proof
https://youtu.be/dzXacX2XrAg
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Make up sex between Liliana ans Jace when?
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>>46356699
And the end of SOI block when she gets her Oath.
>If it means I can get hot 20 something year old dick, I will keep watch.
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>>46352125
>defending the gay twats this hard
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>>46357281
:DDDD
Fug
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Friendly reminder.
>Chicken-chan was right about Nahiri being evil.
>Nissa did nothing wrong.
>Nahiri will probably turn out to have done nothing wrong, as well.
>Sorin will sacrifice himself to bring Avacyn back and save Innistrad.
>Liliana will become the Gatewatch's Black Ranger so she can bone Jace again.
>The Gatewatch is literally Magic's Illuminati.
>Next block is not!Egypt, followed by Ravnica Part 3.
>Wizards actually, legitimately, noticed two female characters talking to one another in a flavor text and decided they were a lesbian couple, despite the text clearly indicating they were co-workers.
>We will never see the Lorwyn Five all together again.
>Tarkir was an inside job. (Dragonfire can't melt hedron beams.)
>Ugin was of no use in defeating the Eldrazi; therefore old Tarkir died for nothing.
>Wizards Creative actually, legitimately believes autistic people are magical.
>Olivia's girlcock is gone.
>Alesha's isn't.
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>>46357469
>Liliana will become the Gatewatch's Black Ranger so she can bone Jace again.
Yes this please.
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>>46357596
Hey, remember that time Liliana was boning Jace but she got super jealous and killed all his friends?
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>>46357821
Threesome Chandra+Jace+Liliana when?
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>>46357367
I just can't contain the mirth these posts cause me
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>>46357469
Jace couldn't have figured out the array without uguuuuuin.
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>>46357821
>i get extremely emotional over an overrated fictional character
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>>46357469
Fuck me too many of these things make me sad. I know they are going to push Nissa x Chandra and it's going to fucking kill me.
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>>46358112
I'm thinking they're gonna try to get as many boxes at once as they can and push Nissa/Chandra/Gideon/Jace polyamory. Not sure if that's better or worse.
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>>46357596
Are people seriously still dumb enough to think that Liliana and Jace are still on the same side?
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>>46357469
>not!Egypt
Can I get a source on this?
I've seen it spouted so much here for a while, where does the original rumor come from?

I hope it's true. Egypt sounds really cool. If they don't heavily feature curses they're doing it wrong.
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>>46358181
Liliana clearly digs Jace's dick for some reason.
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>>46358112
>wotc push nissa x chandra
>they think the lesbian community is going to be happy
>"oh great, now you're objectifying lesbians for white males to mastubate"
>wotc pic related
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>>46358181
Hate sex is best sex
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>>46358183
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>>46358209
Nah, she digs his power set. He's a tool to her. An amusing one, perhaps, but nothing more.
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So can Nahiri hypothetically just make cryptoliths on any plane, fucking up its mana?
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>>46358318
From what we've seen so far the plane has to have some connection to Sorin/the Eldrazi plotline.

Cryptoliths on Tarkir when?
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>>46358276
Nah the story seems to show she cares about him. Black characters aren't sociopaths, they just value themselves more than others. But if one develops feelings for others (as humans do) you treat by empathy to some people as the extension of the self (in the sense that pleasure is derived from making these people happy, as is the case when romantically involved) and can genuinely care for them. What makes it distinctly black is the strictly amoral and seemingly whimsical nature of these fancies.
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>>46358412
When has she derived pleasure from making Jace happy or shown any sign of genuinely caring for him? She actively ruined his life because it was to her benefit.
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>>46358362
It'd be funny if she's going around the Multiverse sowing these cryptoliths and Sorin's all like "to stop this crazy bitch, I'll keep watch."

After all, she' s the harbinger of something
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Jace V. Gideon: dawn of Jacetice
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>>46358362
That's probably where she's going to go next, if she gets away from Innistrad. After taking out Sorin and his home, move on to Ugin and his.
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>>46358275
>fury of the sands
Hype achieved. Sand magic sounds great.
I hope it's legit.
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>>46358442
Yeah but she still wants him. She does not cares that much about his life and friends but she cares that he be safe and able to stick it into her, which is what I guess she must think that's all there is to romance.
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Who do you guys think is writing next week's UR? I'm guessing Beyer is up, then Kreines, followed by Troop. I'm always ready to be Troop'd.
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>>46358474
>Tarkir is kill
And nothing of value was lost
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>>46358112

Honestly, by the end of OGW...

>Jace has tension with Chandra, is mindfucking consensually with Nissa on the down low, thinks a lot about Gideon's "charisma"
>Chandra still seems interested in Gideon but also has tension with Jace and is noticing the elf is kinda cute
>Nissa is grateful to Gideon, has come to trust Jace enough to let him slip into her mind, and feels the warm fuzzies around Chandra in a way she never has with Zendikar
>Gideon trusts Jace, respects Nissa, and has kind of a thing for Chandra still

Everyone fucks everyone. Gays? We gotcha skinny blue twink and big buff soldier boy. Lesbians? We gotcha smokin' ginger and her elf waifu. Straights? We got four flavors o' dat, too.
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>>46358626
Liliana joining the Jacetice League for a general gangbang when?
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>>46358680
What do you think Ravnica 3 will be about?
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>>46358680

We'd need to see if she's still so high-and-mighty about Gideon's anatomy once she sees him with his shirt off.

After that, it's up to how susceptible she is to kind hands and green eyes or red hair.
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>>46358795
Agros Kos, Ghost Cop.
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>>46358181
they clearly have had some affection for each other. Even after Liliana betrayed Jace he liked her enough to let her speak with him again afterwards.
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>>46358986
>tfw Jace could have spent the night in Lili's sex dungeon but backtracked like a wimp
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>>46359025
I understand him, I wouldn't want to spend the night with a rotten dick in my ass.
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>>46359025
>in the fanciest restaurant in town
>liliana clearly wants it
>gideon shows up and fucks up everything

gideon ruins everything it seems.
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>>46358626
Thank you Wizards for being 'inclusive'. Now I can have a polyamorous gatewatch.
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>>46358456
They summon Doomsurza to kill Jace.
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>>46359094
What I don't understand is why they didn't fuck before he left with Gideon. Like, 'be back in a minute hon'. It's not like the Eldrazi couldn't wait an extra day. Pretty sure that's what Chandra would have done if she had a fuckbuddy over at Regatha.
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>>46359255
Because he knows better.
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>>46359255
Well Jace wanted to go right away and have Liliana with him But Liliana took this the wrong way and thought jace saw her as a second thought and only wanted to bring her with him so that he didn't seem like a total dick for leaving her.
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>>46359106
>do you bleed?
>>I mean, when I'm not invincible sure
>you will.
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>>46359323
Couldn't he clarify his thoughts? I mean he's a fucking mind sculptor, misunderstandings aren't supposed to be something he ever encounters.
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>>46359319
>better than to bone the only likeable character in the new storyline
Sure
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>>46359425
But Jace doesn't bone Sorin.
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>>46359443
Ah yes, I forgot about old 'kov. Well, the only likeable non-millenia old character of the new storyline.
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>>46359398
i don't remember why but it was either that Liliana had some special magic on her that blocked out Jaces telepathic powers or that Jace respected her too much to do any mind sculpting on her.
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>>46359471
But Jace hasn't tried to bone himself?
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>>46359507
It wouldn't be mind sculpting, just communicating his thoughts in a clear, nonambiguous way. You know, like that time where he acts as a conference skype room for Ravnica.
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>>46359540
>average middle-aged white male nerd audience self-insert with uber powers who somehow fumbles with the ladies despite being a fucking telepath
>in any way likeable
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>>46358795
A new Guildpact. o__o
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>>46359594
Are you talking about Jace? Cause it doesn't sound like him. Jace is the weakest member of the gatewatch and has actual morals.
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>>46359390
> Do you bleed?
>> You mean like menstrual?
> You wi-wait what?
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>>46359752
> weak
> dispersed literally a massive water meteor comprised of literally all the water on Zendikar like it was nothing
> then just turned around and started fighting Ulamog again
Yeah, totally the weakest, right?
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>>46359908
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>>46358795
Maybe the Gateless movement will finally come to a head.
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>>46360053
Spells are not to scale with lore. Clearly Elspeth had to do a lot more than spend 1W to kill Xenagos.
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>>46360060
>Gateless make a resurgence
>Corlorless mana the guild
>Even get a guildgate to be ironic
>Eventually become considered part of the guilds, but have a shitty guild logo that nobody likes, thus increasing the guild membership levels tenfold
>Eventually, being called guildless is equal to being called a faggot
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>>46360060
They will never achieve anything, guilds are the things people like in Ravnica.
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Was it explicitly confirmed that Sigarda's on the side of good, or is that an inference?
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>>46360112
That's right she didn't even spend mana she just stabbed the fucker.
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>>46360112
Wouldn't it be funny if we were Planeswalkers and we chose our spells (aka the deck we want to use) and it was literally that easy?

> Ob Nixilis/Nico Bolas/Emrakul/Dumbshit Powerhouse becomes problem
> you roll up
> cast Hero's Downfall/Oblivion Strike
> meh, that wasn't so hard, why were you all bitching about this dude?
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>>46360380
There is no 0 mana spell called "stab the fucker", you are wrong.
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>>46360380
Yeah she spent two black and a generic.
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>>46360401
>Ulamog gets tragic slipped
>While Kozilek goes on to be a farmer/
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>>46360426
There's something close
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>>46360454
>Emrakul gets exiled to death by the Angelic Inquisition
>Bolas is To The Slaughter'd
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>>46360449
>>46360426
Damn you caught me.
She was a 1/1? Equipped with Godsend and enchanted by a Celestial Archon.
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>>46360605
There's no way Elspeth is a mere 1/1, she's way too stronk.
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>>46360646
Tell that to the plane of Theros.
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>>46360646
She is, but it's the easiest way to explain it in game terms, where she creates a 1/1 and then the stuff is attached and kill Xenagod.
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>>46358555
>Troop'd
is this slang for "vigorously mindraping female legendaries?"
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>>46360605
Archons aren't the animals, it's the people riding the animals.

So, in this fantasy, Elspeth is being ridden by a Knight?
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>>46360748
Yeah totally.
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>>46353454
So,
>Ed: Ulamog
>Double D: Kozilek
>Eddy: Emrakul
?
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>>46360724
We have entered his Magical Realm plenty of times
Imagine if he worked on the actual cards instead of Digital R&D
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>>46360806
That means a little man is riding your creature.

http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Archons
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>>46360724
>>46360888
Troop is the chemo Magic lore needs to save us from the SJW cancer.
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I don't know if related, but can I vent here some frustration I have about MTG standard and the lore?
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>>46360895
I didn't disagree.

>>46360948
The lore is shit and will keep being shit till they learn how a real story works.
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>>46360973
Now that I think about it, do the Archon's Magic make gheir steeds grow wings?
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>>46360888
>Imagine if he worked on the actual cards instead of Digital R&D
>gain control of target female legendary creature
Just imagine the art
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>>46361055
Would this work on Alesha?
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>>46359425
>Liliana
>Likeable
Sure
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>>46361055
I needed to check the bard and the biologist to make sure it wasn't him, but then I remembered it was the man who stayed mindfucked in that story.
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>>46361055
Something like that ?
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>>46361084
No, of course not.
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>>46357469
>Next block is not!Egypt, followed by Ravnica Part 3.
Not a chance. Take a closer look at SOI.
Notable equipment subtheme along with BFZ block.
Next block is New Phyrexia.
Hope you're ready for triple Return Standard.
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>>46361741
Because Kor/Nahiri are involved and that's kind of their thing?
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>be average magic player
>modern turned into a meme unplayable format for the time being, thanks eldrazi
>well shit, switch to standard to avoid that shit
>fun but full of "little" things that frustrate me over and over again
>meme rhino, meme the ancestors, jeskai memes are really unfun to play against
>new format comes
>finally fresh.jpg

However at this point is where I get really, really, really mad

>Everyone (pros and casuals alike) insist that my deck (g/w company) is dead post SOI
>Not a single pro tries to come up with ideas for the deck
>Everyone is moving to meme decks like mono white humans, w/b goodstuffsmashedtogether.dek, g/r meme wolfs, r/b meme vampires
>Channel fireball articles are 3 paragraphs like "WHOAH DUDE CHECK THIS OUT! IT MIGHT ME A GOOD IDEA BUT I WILL NOT DEVELOPT ANYTHING ON IT OR EXPLAIN MY DECK CHOISES SEE YOU NEXT WEEK"
>Starcity articles are full on the vampire meme decks
>Chapin makes article about a decks Avacyn "WHOAH DUDE CHECK OUT THIS MEME HUMANS DECKS OR W/B MEMES AND VAMPIRE MEME DECK, JUST SPLASH AVACYN ON THEM LOL!"
>"Experts" only say "I would totally buy this on our website, but just in case because it could make impact....... or not!"
>Everyone says buy Avacyn right now with no deck where she is playable
>Everyone says Company and green is dead
>Everyone says Reflector is the new siege rhino but no a single decklist with it being worked on

>Don't fucking know if I should just make bant tokens (lol no fetchs) g/w tokens (lol too slow) or g/w megamorph with avacyn (lol buy overpriced avacyn)

So I move to lore to relax a little I think....

>Maro being a fucking autist over Jace nicknames
>The eternal stupid as fuck debate over eldritch moon being marit who/phyrexia/eldrazi
>Phyrexiafags being insuferable cunts
>The whole gatewatch concept
>No muraganda

I just want a fucking good advice on standard about non meme deck, no meme lore (and reveal what the fucking eldrich moon is to shut up everyone) and lower prices, FUCK
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>>46361741
Jesus I am so sick of hearing about Fagrexia. Every fucking time anything happens it's OMG PHYREXIA GUISE ITS HABBENDING
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>>46359443
Wouldn't be so sure of that, saw some r34 of ir once. Not a pleasant memory.
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>>46361741
There's no way we're going back to New Phyrexia without going back to Theros first.
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>>46357469
>Next block is not!Egypt, followed by Ravnica Part 3.
I'm completely okay with that. If I had it my way there would always be a Ravnica on the table. I don't care if the set is shit, I just want the beautiful city world around all the time.
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>>46361891
ALL WILL BE ONE[/SPOILER]
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>>46361854
Time to either take a break from the hobby or try out casual kitchen table or EDH.
Take some time to decompress from keeping up with every little change to the game.
Also, unrelated, I always knew reflector mage was overrated.
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>>46361854
G/W humeme splash spirit decks look p. good in SOI tbqh. Second Harvest is really good with that kind of shit and if you don't mind using spirits, those humans that can get exiled to make tokens look real good
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>>46361854
>modern player calling everything he doesn't like a meme
You deserve all of this, you are the most cancerous part of MtG
>I just want a fucking good advice on standard about non meme deck,
Stop being such a little whiny bitch and playtest with proxy.
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So, if everyone here was a planeswalker, what color(s) would you be and what deck-type would your spells consist of?

Mine:
> Mono Black Reanimator
Pic related.
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>>46362459
Mardu Midrange
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>>46362459
Yore-Tiller Nephilim Combo
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>>46362675
Also, remember that it's not about winning a game, but being able to keep yourself alive over the long run of a a single or multiple lifespan(s).
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>>46362459
UR artificer. Deck full of rocks, counters, tinkers, welders, and giant facepunching robots.
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>>46362555
>>46362710
>>46362755
If we were all Planeswalkers, would anyone be up for creating our own guild or clan?
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>>46362710
>Yore-Tiller Nephilim Combo
>winning any games
If we get to choose what we are and it's not just based on our personalities and reasonable expectations of our abilities, U/B hide-in-a-corner-somewhere-and-live-forevermancer (Control)
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>>46362812
This cracks me up. And that's what a clan of Planeswalkers would be for. All working together to keep eachother alive and blinking big baddies out of existence.
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>>46362805
>It's an "anon is trying to pick up dates on /tg/" episode again
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>>46362805
Naw, that's retarded. I would try to just blend in everywhere I go. Eternal tourist. If shit goes sour on whatever plane I'm on then I'm dipping immediately back to whichever plane is the safest.
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>>46362459
White/Green
Either tokens or Samurai.
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>>46362459
Black splashing red. Like Tibalt, but edgier and non-shit.
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>>46362805
I would travel the multiverse, organizing righteous warmongering hordes that would hunt down those that did not align themselves with my own "objective" moralities
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>>46362902
> implying any of these anons are girls
> implying I'm an actual faggot
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>>46362902
>it's a /tv/fag on /tg/ campaing
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>>46362910
That would be Kamigawa. Nothing exciting ever happens on Kamigawa.
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>>46362944
This sounds like a sure way to get yourself killed by Nico Bolas.
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>>46362805
You're not that faggot from last week pretending that he's on a planeventure whenever he plays, are you?
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>>46363156
That's why you carry around a thermonuclear device in your pocket
Or gas
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>>46363157
This also made me chuckle. No, I don't take the game that seriously. I don't see myself as a wizard. I don't even call my deck a library.

Though, it would be amusing to say in a tournament that my opponent is a planeswalker, drop Vampire Hexmage, then ask a judge if Hexmage can remove all counters from a planeswalker, then look at my opponent and say since they are a planeswalker that I'm removing all their life counters.

o__o

And no, I'm not serious jackasses.
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>>46363209
You can try and gas Nicol Bolas, I'll just just stick to my Reanimste spells and Terastodon his sorry ass.
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>>46363311
thing is, you don't need to directly gas him, just some gas in his area will be more than enough
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>>46363110
I know less than nothing about Kamigawa. What was the story? Peacefully resolved?
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>>46362459
Green and white or blue. I would just try to find a plane where I could just make a nice comfy house with a nice garden where I could live quietly and use green plant and bug creature and either counterspell,unsummon and illusion or white exile spell and silence effect to keep annoying people outside of my garden and only planeswalk away when I need something or want to see new landscape
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>>46363343
That takes time, I like calling out a mystical elephant that obliterates the all mighty elder dragon planeswalker merely because it arrived.
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>>46363353
Homelands cocked it all up but it got better
And in universe it took place an amazingly long time ago
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Is Arlinn even going to be story relevant?

None of the cards depicting major story events have her anywhere near them
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>>46363353
No one cared. It was a bunch of ninjas and samurai being a pain in eachother's asses. And some mystical Japanese demons/monsters that just sat around doing nothing really.

Probably the easiest place to stay alive. Well, or maybe Zendikar now that the Eldrazi are gone.
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>>46363369
Yeah, but gas also deals with everything else that isn't you or an artifact in the immediate area
The geneva convention doesn't apply on other planes, get creative
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>>46363384
Yeah, she's running mates with Garrison, so she's out of the plot for the next little while
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>>46363384
She'll be apart of it, but I doubt anything major. Kind of like Kiora.
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>>46363455
I don't know, Kiora had a pretty big role in the Battle and Fall of Sea Gate.

It's not like she was Domri Rade or first Innistrad Tamiyo irrelevant
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>>46363487
Well of course she had a big role
Wizards needed to pander to the obnoxious retard demographic
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>>46363384
Am I the only one who thinks Kord looks like an obnoxious soccer mom?
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>>46358181
Can't Jace just counterspell that shit
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>>46363414
I have a staple of critters to summon. And no matter what, I'll always have three particular Angels always summoned. Akroma of Wrath, because hot damn. Avacyn of Hope, because fuck everyone's destroy effects. And Platinum Angel, because no one will be killing me in my sleep.

And Platinum will never be seen. She'll be off fucking around somewhere else.
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>>46363547
Possibly. Out of the known A-team Planeswalkers, she's the only one more powerful than Jace.
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>>46363156
I have serious doubts about a senile dragon that is too wrapped up in his own immortality would be a threat to me
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>>46363591
I'd say that Chandra and Gideon are definitely more powerful than Jace, givin that Chandra won every fight she and Jace have had and Gideon has nothing to counterspell This is assuming his protection works against mind magic..
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>>46363597
And yet, he wants Jace dead. And what did Jace ever do? Be annoying, travel everywhere, and tell people to follow the rules?
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Worldslayer should enter the lore. Just descend on a plane somewhere in a massive crater so people can fight over it for various reasons.
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>>46363680
Jace stole shit from Bolas, and Bolas doesn't forgive or forget things like that. He killed every single Umezawa the moment he returned to life there wasn't even a moment to think about it he killed hundreds because they were related to a guy.
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>>46363664
Chandra isn't more powerful, she is just a handful. She is just a bomb of burn spells. She was only really powerful when Nissa channeled all of the mana from Zendikar into Chandra to fuel her fire spells.

And Gideon isn't powerful, he's just resilient. He can just be stabbed to death.
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>>46363591
>she's the only one more powerful than Jace.
Every planeswalker that can hit Jace hard in the face has an advantage over him see Garruk and Ob Nixilis.
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>>46363731
Yeah, Nicol Bolas is a dick and will kill people just for being a planeswalker in his path... or if you just simply annoy him.
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>>46363756
That doesn't change the fact Jace has never won any of their fights. And Jace learnt how to fight from Tezzeret whose name means shank a nigger in Esper, while Gideon learnt to fight in Theros and Bant both of which have a better track record for good fighters than Esper.
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>>46363770
I think you are underestimating Jace's mind powers and control magic. He can just bounce people out of his way. He can just counter every single move you make. And he can make you forget half of your spells in an instant. He's pretty badass.

I personally don't like Jace at all, but I acknowledge that he's a badass because Wizards wants him as their poster boy.
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