Here's a though experiment for you folks. What's the highest possible amount of 1/1 counters you can put on a single permanent by the end of turn 5?
>>46188668
infinite minus one?
infinite
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>>46188668
What's the highest number you can think of
>>46188693
Other than infinite combos is what I assume OP meant.
>>46188693
No, endless one is an x cost card that enters with that many counters on it
There are infinite mana combos that come online earlier than that, so as many as you want.
>>46188727
He didn't specify it so he didn't mean it
OP here. The obvious infinite mana combo+endless one is not what I meant.
>>46188763
Plus four times 256
>>46188807
Then add three to previous answer and multiply by 256
>>46188807
what about infinite turns
>>46188807
How many +1/+1 counters can you get when you kick a rite of replication on a hamletback goliath?
That many.
>>46188892
Plus four times 256 for each Goliath that enters
>>46188807
Its still infinity
There are hundreds of ways to do it
Aluren + cavern harpy + anafenza
Melira + Finks + Champion of Lambholt
Zuran Orb + fastbond + crucible of worlds + Undergrowth Champion
Splinter Twin + Exarch + anything with Devour
>>46190198
>Melira + Finks + Champion of Lambholt
You still need viscera seer (or some sac outlet)
>>46190274
His point still stands though, there's so many infinite combos that do this that there's no real point in trying to find what makes the "most".
>>46188668
0 because vigor doesn't come down till turn 6
>>46190314
yeah I agree, the thread is pretty silly
>>46188668
>>46188807
For simplicity's sake, I'll assume EDH. Because anything else gets to just be 4-ofs all over, along with stupid cards like Fastbond, and just going infinite.
So, EDH Banlist, no infinite combos:
t1: Forest, Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Voltaic Key, Gilded Lotus.
t2: Doubling Season, Heroes' Bane (enters with 8). Forest, Rancor on him. His power is 10.
t3: Forest, 12 mana, triple HB's counters 3 times. 10 > 30 > 90 > 270
t4: Rinse and repeat. 270 > 810 > 2,430 > 7,290
t5: Last round. 7,290 > 21,870 > 65,610 > 196,830
Just in time for turn 5 combat, you have a 196,830/196,828 Trample.
>>46190616
How the fuck are you casting gilded lotus turn 1 with only 4 mana?
>>46190807
By forgetting that Voltaic Key costs 1 mana to play, obviously.
Or by swapping out the T1 Forest for an Ancient Tomb or Workshop.
>>46190910
Okay, I except both of those answers.
I made the same mistake at first myself.
>>46190616
Why did you put Rancor on him instead of casting something like Hardened Scales? Rancor isn't going to put counters on him.
>>46191612
Forgot that Scales gives two counters for ETB effects.
But yeah, that could actually increase the number of counters on him by a good amount. Wouldn't have trample, tho.inb4 "just throw Rancor on him next turn then"
Replacing Rancor with Scales would bring him up to 216,512 counters on turn 5.
>>46190616
What about the not doublig season from the prossh deck
>>46188884
Your fifth turn is still turn five, no matter how many turns in a row you're taking.
>>46190965
Since when has /tg/ became a fucking hug box?
>>46192601
Listen here you piece of shit.
Accepting mistakes doesn't make a place a fucking hugbox, circle jerks with no disagreement or opposing ideas, make a fucking hugbox.
>>46192601
Maybe /b/ would be more your speed if something like that makes this place a hugbox