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Now featuring dark angels.
>>46178757
Back Angels really is not a problem.
>>46178757
Are we still missing one or not ?
>>46178757
Let's call her Nigel
I want to fuck her so badly
>>46178757
Would it make sense for Sorin to make Avacyn Two electric boogaloo ?
>>46178757
First for clerics
>>46178814
Don't stick your dick in crazy. She'll leave it looking like a cyptolith.
>>46178757
Nth for no green mythic.
>>46178814
Don't, she gets clingy.
>>46178814
>vampiric sloppy seconds
>>46178757
I'm not much of a symmetrical drawing kind of guy, but I really like this thing.
>>46178814
I love how she has the blacksmith look to her.
>>46178792
There should be fifteen mythics, and I think they're missing a mono-green one.
Expect an unplayable hydra or some big forest beast with trample.
>>46178834
Clerics!
>>46178814
her mouth looked like it can fit 2 dicks
>>46178840
got your red wings there didn't cha.
>>46178829
Sorin made Avacyn before the Mending. Now that he's been nerfed he probably can't make another.
>>46178859
i'm okay with big forest breast, oh you mean beast.
>>46178845
Its better than most symmetrical draw effects since it triggers in your end step, so your opponents draws after they've had their first turn after you play it, plus you get to draw first.
>>46178888
How did he make her? why would the mending stop that?
>>46178859
craterhoof reprint now
Anyone else feeling pretty let down? The flavour is great on this set and limited might be good but the power level is so shit compared to the original Innistrad, and they're rubbing it in with cheap inferior knockoffs of original ISD cards like the Geist of Saint Traft Aura. I wonder how long it will be before they go back to doing sets that really impact modern, the last one to do so was Fate Reforged (theros block and 2/3rds of RTR block was a dud)
The only card I'm mildly excited about for constructed is Arlinn.
>>46178915
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>>46178859
Last time around Garruk Relentless (the only DFC Mythic) didn't count toward the 15 limit and we ended up with 16. If that follows we still have 3 more mythics to go.
>>46178905
Planeswalkers were gods at the time Sorin made Avacyn.
The mending changed that.
>yfw Nahiri is priming Innistrad for a Phyrexian invasion to fuck with Sorin
>>46178905
We don't know precisely how but before the Mending, planeswalkers could do almost anything. They weren't just world-wandering wizards, they could shape reality, make their own planes and all manner of crazy shit.
So his big achievement was creating Avacyn, an angelic entity designed to constantly keep Innistrad's supernatural elements in check.
>>46178915
Theros gave a lot to burn though.
>>46178757
What's the point of having a higher toughness on Castigator if it gets dealt double damage?
>>46178947
Oi m8 you stole my idea from last thread.
>>46178864
Preach!
>>46178965
That is a bad thing.
No vampires today? Thank God
>>46178970
Just spreading the good word
>>46178915
Also thing in the ice is going to effect a lot of formats and madness and baby jace will most likely fill an eldrazi ban
>>46178915
I really wouldn't be surprised if we see a new alternative to modern popping in from M15 onwards in a couple of years time.
Modern's dying, friend.
>>46178969
So it doesn't die as easily? What kind of question is that?
Imagine it as effectively a 4/5.
>>46178944
>>46178952
Urza did not seem that all powerful? He was getting stop by a non planeswalker.
>>46178982
Why burn is a good fair deck that keeps decks in check while not being over powered
>>46179000
Alright I'll let you off today.
>>46178915
Have any return blocks matched or exceeded the power level of the original?
I'd argue that Scars block perhaps almost matched the original Mirrordin, and RTR (the set, not the block) was as powerful as RAV
>>46178915
Personally this is the card I'm most excited about.
>>46178969
It creates for interesting reactions and actually makes it a playable card, rather than just bolt bait.
>>46178757
>4/9
>>46179009
A non-planeswalker with twenty thousand years of prep-time that had ascended beyond godhood and became the interplanar embodiment of black mana.
You cannot underestimate just how fucking insane Yawgmoth was.
>>46178915
>The last set to impact modern was Fate Reforged
>What are Eldrazi
10/10 made me respond
>>46179009
>Urza did not seem that all powerful
He found it easier to break himself down molecularly and rebuild himself facing another direction rather than actually turning himself. Also that non walker was literally the most powerful being in existence
>>46179035
Not to mention fucking collected company which now as several decks named after it in modern.
>>46178969
She scales worse with bonus stats effects like equipment.
>>46178969
so she can block a 4/4 dumbass
>>46179064
And Origins added baby Jace, Mom and Dad, and Ghirapur Aether Grid, all of which have seen modern play
>>46179009
>Urza did not seem that all powerful? He was getting stop by a non planeswalker.
That's like saying Bruce Lee was terrible at martial arts because he couldn't defeat Godzilla. One a straight comparison level Yawgmoth was infinitely more powerful than any walker
>>46179021
4+9=13
>>46178757
so they want us too use the fat ass angel with assault formation right?
>>46179030
>>46179049
Yea I realized after I down played him after I sent it but still would making an angel just be forming together a lot of white mana?
>>46179104
>implying
bruce lee never even fought godzilla how the fuck do you know he couldn't beat him? if godzilla got his balls up and attacked china instead of japan bruce lee would have whooped his fat green radioactive ass back into the pacific ocean and fucking drowned him
>>46178757
The new Red angel could be pretty nice in RG aggro
>>46179131
Is making a cake putting a lot of flour together?
I realize this is still a poor analogy, but there is more to creation than just gathering parts.
That is my point.
I think I see a use for Goldnight Castigator, henceforth known as 'big booty bitch.'
>>46179169
Then he would not need the power but just to have enough mana and the recipe
>>46178915
>Oath of the Gatewatch had no effect on Modern
Have... you actually played modern in the last couple months or so?
>>46179049
>He found it easier to break himself down molecularly and rebuild himself facing another direction
What a showoff
>>46179017
They could fuck up a return to Kamigawa pretty hard and probably still make it stronger than the original block.
>>46179049
>He found it easier to break himself down molecularly and rebuild himself facing another direction rather than actually turning himself.
Source ?
>>46179256
one of the old books I believe
>>46179261
I really need to read those books
When does the complete set get spoiled?
>>46179296
Friday
>>46179209
Power is an ingredient in making a cake. Heat.
He doesn't have the power to do that anymore, or at least I am guessing.
The Mending was a bitch.
>>46179299
Thanks, also nice dubs
>>46179312
What is the white mana got in his way?
>>46178915
>Memedrazi dominate modern
>Fate reforged was the last set to really impact modern
>>46179256
"Urza spun quickly on the stool, too quickly for her eyes to follow his movement. Indeed, he hadn't moved, he'd reshaped himself. It was never a good sign when Urza forgot his body."
Planeswalker, page 27
>not instant
At least it helps with Delirium.
>>46179282
They range from good to shit, so be aware.
I would still recommend them.
Brother's War and the Thran are pretty dope.
>>46179358
Pretty sick in Limited tbqh
>>46179350
I'm now imagining Urza spinning around on a barstool like a retard
>>46179358
You've got Anguished Unmaking for instant exile.
>>46179358
There seems to be enough token generation in the set to make this worthwhile.
>>46179167
>fiery temper hits you for 6: the card
The angel is turbo shit.
Is it safe to assume the missing mono-green rare makes these dudes?
If your post ends in 13 you leave /tg/ forever
>>46179431
C U T E
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>>46179443
Not risking it
>>46179167
Spalsh blue for stormchaser mage and elusive spellfist.
>>46179443
It was an awful effect during Kamigawa and it's still awful now.
>>46179167
Huh.
Good thinking there anon.
>>46179443
BRING IT ON YOU FAGGOT
>>46179167
Furnace of Rath creature form?
>>46179410
You can also sac a clue token for it which could give you some more stuff.
>>46179443
sweating bullets
>>46179368
The Thran is my favorite mtg book. Yawgmoth is a fun character. I haven't read the Brother's War, though.
>>46179443
>
rolling
>>46178877
Nope. But she did.
>>46179443
Alright, I'll risk it.
>>46179443
>>46179513
And the winner didn't play !
>>46179431
I hope it's a legendary ooze
>>46179514
So close. Dodged a bullet there anon.
>>46179518
>>46179513
>>46179443
Well shit.
Wish me luck, I'm going outside.
>>46179513
The Thran is definitely up there for myself.
I really liked the Invasion arc overall, just for it being the original block I started getting cards from.
I also really liked the original Ravnica books. Not great, or terribly well written, but interesting and fun at creating a new world.
>>46179443
Damn. That is harsh. Guess no lover for the old stories.
>>46179538
>tfw we get a legendary Ooze before a Legendary bear
>>46179551
RIP
>>46179476
The difference was needing them to get to exactly 10 and then have a card in your hand to profit off it right then. This one, you drop it and now they have to play around it for the whole game (unless it's g2 and they boarded in enchantment hate)
strangely enough, with fetches, shocks, and thoughtseizes, 13 life is a common landing point for modern decks.
>>46179358
White needing sacrifice is pretty neat.
>>46179443
Ain't scurred
>>46179575
We already have 2 legendary oozes
>>46179443
can't stop won't stop :^)
>>46179570
Ravnica was good too, yeah.
I also liked Torment's book a lot. I'm sure I'm somewhat biased as that was my first mtg book, but Chainer was a good character and a pretty different protagonist.
>>46179619
you managed to miss it good job anon, now we are all safe for another 100.
>>46179443
only on your upkeep loser
>>46179575
Unbearable, isn't it?
>>46179645
it really is the only thing keeping my Bear tribal commander deck being exclusively bears
Still hoping for some good equips. Digging the set overall so far though.
>>46179443
Are there any good life gain/drain tools to play with this in the next Standard?
>>46179443
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>>46179713
>USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST
>>46179588
Considering that it affect all players, that you have two full turn to stabilize your life to something else and there's plenty of effect that deal damage or heal yourself it's shit, SHIT.
>>46179668
I guess you can say that this is a terrible burden to bear.
>>46179443
Save me from this evil.
>>46179588
Hidegtsu's is actually much better, IMO. There was a decent RW deck in Kami/Rav standard that ran it. Because the target number was ten, all you had to do was run all even sources of damages. You didn't have to sequence your spells or anything, you just hit them until they were at ten and then if you had the rite you blew them up.
13 is a much weirder number, plus they have a turn before they lose, PLUS if they manage to get you on 13 you're fucked.
>>46179701
I know right? I can bearly sleep at night
>tfw there're people being paid for spewing bullshit.
If I ever pull this card during a draft I will feel dead inside, as it could be any other better mythic.
>>46179575
Would a bear Commander only allow bear creatures, or any 1G 2/2 creatures are ok?
>>46179708
It's a build around me card in a lot of the ways demonic pact was - and I also want to note that May 13th is a Friday. Someone will be that guy.
>>46179714
cutting it really fucking close.
>>46179731
It could also have been a worse rare.
>>46179741
My Bear commander deck is all Bear types except for the commander itself.
>>46179731
>4/5 haste flying for 4 is bad in limited
>>46179443
This card man...
>>46179731
A 4/5 flying haste is far from the worst mythic in recent memory.
It's still not good, mind you, but it's limited playable.
Why 'limited playable' cards are at mythic rarity, though, I can't say.
>>46179753
>4/5
Who's going to tell him?
>>46179731
A flying hasty 4/9 for 4 isn't the worst thing to pull in this set
>>46179756
You didn't count the rivets on the barrel
>>46179575
We had Yeva, who had a bear on her art.
There are bears on Innistrad, though they we've only seen 2 in the past, so keep hoping for that legendary bear. It's not impossible
>>46179772
You have to deal it 5 damage to kill it. It's a 4/5, not matter what the card says.
>>46179772
It is the equivalent to a 4/5 since it takes double damage.
>>46179772
>>46179779
It takes double damage, so it's bandit a 4/5 in limited, especially since I haven't seen much -x/-x
>>46179782
FUCK
They should have called the fucking thing "OCD the card"
Is anyone else excited about Avacynian Missionaries + Neglected Heirloom?
>>46179443
>13 blood drips
>13 letter "T"s
>13 words
>13 rivets
>13 blood drips
>13 glass shards
>13 boards
>13 stones
>13 more in the arch
>13 boards in the wall
>13 utensils
>1 black 3 generic, 13
>13 logs
13 instances of 13
AREWESPOOPYYET?let me be free
>>46179830
I certainly am.
Weapons Trainer sees play?
Please?
>>46179830
I wish the missionaries were a three drop instead of four drop. I also wish that the sword didn't change in equip cost when flipped.
>>46179832
From last thread
>each option have 13 words
>card number is 14-1
>>46179877
Already got the words part, didn't see the card number though.
Card number is loose but works so things got extra spoopy
>>46179811
>>46179804
>>46179753
You as a player also take a double damage from ANY source. Lightning Axe hits YOU for 10 thanks to this card.
>>46179746
Bad rares hurt me less than bad mythics.
The art on one of the clue tokens.
>>46179832
Someone also thought they counted 13 chain links.
>>46179916
No it doesn't.
>>46179916
lightning axe can't hit you.
>>46179916
Read the fucking card.
>>46179731
I'll take the advice from the guy who played 100 drafts per set more than some random noob on the internet.
>>46179918
>that cross
>article said this art is EXTRA awesome
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
>>46179877
Alternatively 141/297 = .474747
47 is the 13th prime number.
>>46179969
sorry the 13th supersingular prime
>>46179929
Will need to see a higher resolution of the art to be sure, they said that it's blurry
>>46179443
Please release me from this place
>>46179443
I'm forcing this on modern, so hard.
>>46180016
So close
>>46179918
Okay, so someone explain to me why or how someone made stain glass figures of insane Avacyn?
Who saw Avacyn slaughtering villages and went "yeah, that's our savior alright, better make some new windows to portray her new style!"?
If only this wouldn't be shit.
>>46179358
>sacrifice a permanent
>a permanent
no more dying to demonic pact for me anymore
>>46180147
Isn't three color a bit too much after Khans rotation ?
>>46180139
Maybe she slaughtered those pricks down the road in York town. Fuck those guys. I'm making some stained glass to commemorate their passing on into hell.
>>46180147
>aggro
>three colors
>with much less mana supports
You are living in technicolor anon.
>>46180147
The prowess deck looks like it would be better as it's own thing without the green.
>>46180219
This. UR prowess should still be a deck after rotation, all it really loses is swiftspears which hurts but won't kill the deck. Making it three colors for a weird toughness matters gimmick is just bad.
>>46180147
Out of curiosity, would copies of spells in the graveyard that are cast when Harness the Storm is in play trigger prowess?
If so, UR prowess might be a genuine thing.
>>46179443
I mean really, how can you be afraid of a number?
>>46180265
The same way you can be afraid of a duck watching you in the distance
>>46180254
Yes, they're not copies, you're casting the card from your graveyard
>>46180265
It's an irrational fear, though it's rational to be afraid of whatever caused the blood to be there.
>>46179017
>RTR (the set, not the block) was as powerful as RAV
Explain how you can say that when all Simic and Boros cards are vastly superior to their original guild incarnations.
Or are you unironically saying that
Aurelia < Razia
Simic Manipulator < Cytoplast Manipulator
Reckoner = shit
Boros Charm = shit
Tajic < Agrus
Vorel < Kraj
etc
![98993e6b70935f1cd588c61d8f6f4662[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zUchS02.jpg "98993e6b70935f1cd588c61d8f6f4662[1]")
>>46180280
>>46180241
Makes me think about possible replacements. The spoiled red vampire and werewolv 1 drops don´t look that good in u/r prowess...
I need to wait until friday then.
>>46180289
people remember Ravnica as having a higher powerlevel than it did because of Bob.
>>46180254
Yes, you just cast a card in your graveyard.
>>46180289
Dredge
>>46180265
Cultural thing. Some Japanese hospitals don't have 4th floor because the word for four (shi) also means "death"
>>46179189
i want her to hit me when she's in ass formation so badly
>>46180349
Golgari was in RtR, not GC or DM, which are the ones people shit on.
So I don't know what your point is.
>>46180289
The spells in RTR were generally weaker, but the creatures were a little better. Battalion was a better mechanic than radiate.
>>46180185
the same way the symbols on the gravestones are different
they changed.
so are there only 4 different stories or are they releasing one every week until eldritch moon?
>>46180310
There's the 1/3 for 2U from origins that draws you a card. Not great, but at least something with the unblockable cantrip.
Our creatures right now are a bit too slow, especially with White no longer being an option.
>>46179002
Post Modern when?
>>46178757
I really hope we get a decent merfolk looter type of creature at common/uncommon for me to use as a budget jace. No way I'm paying 80 bucks on that little fucker to play FNMs.
>>46180147
drop the blue, it's not doing much for you.
>>46180486
Maybe that Doctor Jekyll scholar will show up again?
>>46179443
I REGRET EVERYTHING.
WE WUZ INNISTRAD & SHIET
>>46180401
RtR is significantly better than gatecrash. It had Supreme verdict, sphinx's revelation, abrupt decay, deathrite shaman, ultimate price, cyclonic rift, pack rat, dryad militant, rakdos cackler, dreadbore, mizzium mortars, detention sphere, izzet charm, azorius charm, dryad militant and ash zealot. It was a significant power drop in gatecrash, and people were a little miffed
>>46180549
wait, why did I say dryad militant twice? Oh yeah, I like that card.
>>46180512
If this does not show up, then Wizards is hopeless
>>46180568
I'd rather they print grave scrambler.
>>46180298
I can already imagine it.
>Anatidaephobia (3)(B)
>Enchantment
>Art is the same, just with a duck looking at the player through the window.
>At the beginning of each player's upkeep if that player controls a Duck creature that player looses the game
>(5): Target player gains control of target Duck creature.
>>46180593
I mean scrabbler. He's a zombie with madness in a set that cares about tribal and madness and cares about the graveyard.
>>46179627
>I wear a funny hat
>>46180486
Don't worry, you won't.Because Baby Jace is around 100$ already.
>>46179756
>>46179782
This is legitimately beautiful.
>>46180549
What about Dragon's Maze?, Was that one good?I begun playing with BFZ.Pls no bully.
>>46179443
I uh, its a neat card. Rolling.
>>46180131
In reverse order god damn.
>>46180741
nah, Dragon's Maze was super shitty. It had Voice of Resurgence and... actually I think it was pretty much just Voice of Resurgence. I guess the cycle of legendaries was cool if you play EDH.
>>46180741
Dragon's Maze has an awesome chase mythic and is otherwise mostly shit.
>>46179731
Castigator is a great Limited pick. 4/5 haste flyer is pretty good, even with that downside.
Everyone who gets a preview card puffs it up, because if they shit all over it, they don't get preview cards in the future. Same reason why videogame journalism is universally shit; you don't bite the hand that feeds you.
>>46180741
Naw dragons maze was legit awful
>>46179443
Not today!
Oath was shit, but this set is legit. Hopefully wizards had learned their lesson about forcing low powered sets on us to control power creep. It doesn't fucking work.
>>46180774
Nah, a lot of of the legendaries are pretty awful even if you like EDH.
>>46180741
Nivix cyclops was cool and notion thief sees play in legacy and vintage. I think that's about it.
>>46180766
That means I'm here forever ;_;
>>46178829
IIRC, Sorin put a fair chunk of his pre mending power into Avacyn, so even back then he would find it difficult to remake her. Now it's be near impossible.
>>46179782
>>46179756
posting corrected version
>>46180741
Aetherling saw some standard play in control, and I personally have a soft spot for Blood baron of Vizkopa.
>>46180862
Melek is the only really good one. A couple others arr playable, but gimicky, and Teysa amd especially Emmara are unplayable.
>>46180895
>the card doesn't have collector number 13
Reeeeeee
>>46180936
# 141
14-1=13
>>46180922
You saying my niggas Ruric and Thar aren't good? You best check yourself before you get slapped for 6.
>>46180950
Is like pottery. Thank you ma ro
>>46180741
When the 2nd most expensive card from the set is the Token for the 1st most expensive card. That tells you a lot about the level of the set.
>>46180895
What about the tree branches
>>46180774
>>46180782
>>46180796
Which are the best post Mirrodin sets?, I want to skim everything worth it and single out my favorite cards from each of them and build for Modern.
>>46180969
Nigga I run a Lavinia EDH. I'm saying that cards like her, Exava, and Emmara are bad, and I can't even remember the Golgari and Dimir ones.
>>46181046
I tried to count them but I couldn't get 13 out of them.
the big problem with Avacyn is, the flaw has been shown, since she was programable to begin with, others can reprogram her.
Nahiri found the perfect way to ruin Innistrad, and Sorin gave her the means, he did not protect her enough.
really all of this comes down to Sorin's inability to focus and maintain things, he made Avacyn because he wanted to go do shit elsewhere.
then he neglected his shit elsewhere, whatever Nahiri's motivations are, its clear Sorin incured them, even if she isn't particularly sane about it.
Sorin's selfish nature has ruined him, more than anything else.
>>46180741
Golgari and Boros charms still see play, same with rest in peace. It had good reprints as well as sphinxes revelation which sees fringe play still. also it had Dryad Militant which is a great card.
So many fun cards out of this last spoiler batch. I don't know about the powerlevel, but this is a really fucking fun set.
>>46180774
Voice of Resurgence was originally intended to be able to copy a token for 3 mana and give you life equal to the toughness of your creatures when they ETB, while the guild leader Trostani was originally the card that made x/x elementals, but some idiot at design decided it was super important to give trostani the populate keyword and literally switched their entire card text at the last minute.
If it wasn't for that guy, dragons maze would have no playable cards.
>>46179443
ROLLING
>>46179443
rolling to stay alive
>>46180843
SOI's power level looks really low as well, they just did it right by creating what so far looks like a pretty good limited environment (unlike BFZ block), introducing fun mechanics (again, unlike BFZ ones) and giving us some spot-on lore (you already guessed it, unlike BFZ). I'm really happy with SOI even if we're not getting Snaps, Geists, Huntmasters, Lilies and so on.
>>46180538
>4/9
>4+9=13
Uhu, uhu.
>>46179443
Why do this?
Why tempt me in this way?
>>46179443
Well it's been nice knowing you folks. Guess I'll join the gym or something.
>>46178757
How can Wotc put these guys in the set?
>>46181073
Khans block had some good stuff. Ignore Theros entirely except for Thoughtseizes. Oath had great modern playables that incidentally destroyed modern and are now awaiting a land ban.
I'll call it now. Next blocks are going to be Kaladesh, and then a new top-down block and Return to Return to Ravnica (the last two in this order I think, but not necessarily)
>>46180895
13 instances of the letter i on the cardface.
>>46181158
Close, but not quite. Orignially, Voice of Resurgence had Emmara's text, and Emmara had Voice of Resurgence's text, but design decided that they wanted all the maze runners to have the same rarity, so they switched them at the last minute.
The design of the guild leader from the first set in the block wouldn't have had that big an impact on a card from the third set.
>>46180298
Thats actually a goose
>>46181073
A lot of stuff got banned from original mirrodin in standard for being too powerful and saw the second biggest exodus of players from the game after Urza's block. Scars of mirrodin also has a lot of cool stuff too though, like infect.
>>46181363
>"anatidae" meaning ducks, geese or swans
I think they're included.
>>46180895
>>46179443
how do we make deck with this card ?
>>46179443
Ain't happening.not that i'd mind
>>46181405
B/W life gain vampires if you're in standard.
>>46181405
B/W Lifegain Drain. Slowly ticking them down 1 by 1 and put them on the sweet spot. As soon as Turn 5 - 6
>>46181449
I think you might be able to do a B/R burn deck with 13 as your target as opposed to 0.
>>46179358
>more white unconditional creature removal
This card should be WB.
>>46181484
Do you know what unconditional means?
>>46181484
it has a very big condition, you have to sac a permanant.
a premium removal spell in the Green/White Humans.
>>46181535
Especially since it means you can sac clues and get a whole lot of value from the green.
>>46179969
How deep does this rabbit hole go
>>46181264
It would be an improvement over the current "dark angels" we're getting.
And clearly forces like the Eldrazi titans are warp entities, so there's a valid reason for some DA to show up for some smiting.
>>46180549I still secretly want a gatecrash fat pack in my life.
>>46179443
RELEASE ME FROM THIS TORMENT
>>46181557
anon, I didn't even think of that.
that is insane, absolutely insane.
>>46181527
it's unconditional in the meaning that it will remove ANYTHING, assuming you can pay the cost. This is opposed to removal that can only remove certain creatures, f.ex. Smite the Monstrous. No matter the threat, unconditional removal can deal with it.
>>46181635
>tfw I pulled a Gatecrash and Dragon's maze fatpack and got nothing
>tfw looking for a RTR fatpack to complete the set
>tfw need to find a BFZ fatpack too
>>46179443
rollin
>>46181699
Doesn't hit lands
>>46181726
Get it while it's hot, since BfZ is at least going to be reasonable.
I am actually considering paying $100 for a small elongated red box and 6 packs.
I'm retarded.
>>46181726
>>tfw need to find a BFZ fatpack too
Good luck
>>46181699
Doesnt hit Hexproof ;)
>>46179443
can I negotiate? Forever seems like a really long time, anon...
>>46181807
the alternative is just buying the box itself from someone, but its not the same
>>46181527
>>46181535
Unconditional means it can remove any creature permanently without any stipulations on the creature it can remove (must be tapped, power 4 or more, etc).
White's removal should either only hit creatures doing something white doesn't like (like being too big or attacking) or be reversible (like Banishing Light).
>>46180806
>13th card in FtV:A
>>46181943
there are exceptions all the time in other colors so its fine here.
if blue gets "exile creature and you get a ____" white gets this.
>>46181943
>>46181943
And Angelic Purge, being a white "unconditional" creature removal, is a good example of the angels getting corrupted
>>46179443
I'm doing it
>>46179002
It'd have to be from ORI onwards, otherwise they're gonna have to reprint fetches again.
>>46180977
2nd is Ral Zarek...?
>>46181975
That's blue's removal type, replacing a threat with a different (hopefully less threatening) threat. If blue got a card that simply allowed you to remove a creature, full stop, that'd be a color pie break.
Same with white. White's removal should be conditional or non-permanent.
>>46179358
Is it just me or are we seeing the return of decently costed removal to standard?
>>46182177
Path to exile
Swords to plowshares
Both iconic white cards.
>>46179443
NO CHANCE OF HAPPENING
>>46182186
Sinister Concoction are two effects, right?
>>46182229
It looks like a long effect.
>>46182229
Nope it's all one cost to destroy something.
>>46182229
No. You pay B, 1 Life, a discard, a 1-card mill and sacrificing it to destroy a creature.
Basically, you enable Delirium and Madness and destroy a creature for BB, 1 Life.
>>46181726
I got a Foil Ral Zarek in my Dragon's Maze fatpack. :^)
>>46182186
Until I see some 2 mana (or less) instant speed not shit removal, I am going to go with "no"
>>46182203
Yeah, with a downside even if it's not that much. I'm not the anon you responded to btw. It's not conditional but it's not "free" removals either.
>>46182186
meh
>>46182278
>the only way I play is if they give me legacy level removal spells in standard.
fuck off.
>>46182280
>>46182280
The anon I was responding too was saying white shouldn't get removal that can hit any creature.
>>46182255
>>46182262
>>46182268
That sounds better and crazy. Thanks.
>>46182186
They need to convey that the humans are in danger from anything and that death is everywhere
>>46182186
>decent removal
>2 mana, 2 cards, 1 life and sorcery speed
>>46182291
>Decent removal is now "legacy level"
>2 mana instant speed removal is now "legacy level".
Shit nigga I ain't asking for Swords in standard. Fucking standard kiddies, crack me up every time.
>>46182186
Only 2 Instants out of 6, 1 is utter shit.
The other is "good" only if you have some mean to gain back life. And will never be played in modern where you already have fetches, shock, Thoughtseize, Bob effects.
So no.
>>46179443
Where else will I get spoiler discussion?
>>46182394
On MTGS of course.
>>46182394
Reddit of course : ^ )
>>46180289
EDH legends do not power make. And you're not compensating for power creep (in both creatures and direct damage spells). Original Rav's creatures were quite good for the time. Watchwolf made Zoo a thing. Rumbling Slum and Loxodon Hierarch were scary. Ghost Council original was better than 2.0 relative to its competition. And Bob is still good.
It also had lightning helix, remand, compulsive research, condemn, and spell snare. Signets are still the gold standard in mana rocks. It gave us life from the loam and the rest of dredge.
Original Rav was amazing. And I haven't even mentioned that it was the source of shocklands.
>>46182355
Two mana instant speed removal has always had heavy drawbacks in standard
Go for the throat was released when the majority of decks where artifact based
Doom blade is completely dead in a lot of match ups
Ultimate price was created in a multicolored block
Your bitching but lately we've had shit like murderous cut, which can be a 1 mana no drawback kill spell
Also to you and >>46182355
This faggot, modern is the worst format by far so pretending your "real" magic players and standard players aren't is just fucking sad
Come back when you play a real format like legacy or vintage
>>46179731
Castigator is absolute shit. It should have just flat made everything do double damage to everything else.
Why they fuck would I want that massive fucking liability on the field?
>>46182291
the creatures are too efficient right now to be dealt with using 3cmc++ spot removal.
yo senpai what kind of game loss u want
>i want to 1-for-1 a game-ending 3 cmc threat
u wanna die next turn to a 4 tho?
>just fuck my shit up
say no more
>>46180895
Enchantment has 13 letters
>>46179916
Right, because burn is super strong in standard limited.
>>46182602
no it doesn't
>>46182495
>>Your bitching but lately we've had shit like murderous cut, which can be a 1 mana no drawback kill spell
You mean only Cut and no other decent removal? Which you forgot to mention is a kill spell that you can't run more than twice.
>This faggot, modern is the worst format by far so pretending your "real" magic players and standard players aren't is just fucking sad
What the fuck are you talking about modern? I don't play modern, just powered cube and legacy.
Jesus your butthurt and ad hominem are palpable
>>46182660
"No it doesn't" has 13 characters in it including spaces
>>46182692
Yes it does
>>46182692
I'm counting fifteen. Did you forget the quotation marks?
Whatever is being summoned in eldritch moon will cost 13.
Also, it's Marit Lage. Maybe.
Avacyn was made to BALANCE the wilds/demons against the humans. Nahiri is rallying the humans into summoning something at the drownyards. Screenshot this shit.
>>46182660
Yes it does.
Enchantmeeent
Anyone willing to bet they make Skulk evergreen after this block is give Blue/Black a new shared keyword that isn't related to milling?
>>46182310
It shouldn't though. It does, but that's because the designers are bad at making cards for their own game.
>>46182819
I think Maro hinted a while back that they might have found an evergreen UB keyword that was coming up in a few blocks so I wouldn't doubt it. It's really bland though so it would be pretty disappointing, especially since both colors already have evergreen evasion.
Reminder that the Green mythic will be Delirium Tarmogoyf and it is being saved for last to generate as much hype as possible before just before release.
>>46182781
>Screenshot this shit
This is all pretty obvious
>>46179803
>what are -x/-x effects
>>46179443
neoo
>tfw you can't even say "die to removal" as a drawback anymore since removal is so awful you might as well have played another creature in that slot
>>46178905
Before the Mending Planeswalkers were able to reshape reality to the point where it was easier for them to pivot all the molecules in their body 90 degrees than it was to physically turn left. Now for the most part they are just slightly more powerful than a non-walker of their same spiecies and they have the ability to Planeswalk.
So, what does everyone think the rare land cycle is gonna be called?
>>46183106
showlands
handlands
>>46183106
Showlands
>>46180936
The collectors number is: 141/297.
141/297= 0.4747474747474747
47 is the thirteenth supersingular prime.
>>46182827
>I, a random person on the traditional games subforum of a Brussels swingers club review board that is historically bad at magic, have more authority than the designers of the game.
Both of those cards are iconic white cards. They're about as solidly white as you can get.
>>46183125
>>46183126
i like showlands
was there ever any consensus on what to call the BFZ lands?
>>46183106
peeklands
This set is fairly disappointing. Hopefully Eldritch Moon won't be.
>>46183106
Handland just sounds better than anything else I've heard.
>>46183160
Time settled on Battlelands
>>46183160
Battle lands.
>>46183009
Sinister Concotion, Anguished Unmaking, Final Price, Immolating Glare and Grasp of Darkness are all in Standard right now. We've got fucking awesome removal at the moment.
>>46183106
I like handlands
>>46183106
HANDlands
>>46183137
Shiet nigga. 9/11.
>>46183167
This set is way better than the entirety of the last block though.
>>46183286
It's fucking theros all over again so I have to repeat myself.
"It's better than shit" does not mean anything.
>>46183361
Migrate.
>>46183141
They're iconic because they're powerful. "R: Counter target spell" would become iconic as well but that doesn't make it well designed. What part of white's slice of the color pie says that "exile target creature" belongs?
Believe it or not it is possible for a designer to fuck up. They have stated standards for their own cards, if they violate those standards then they have made a mistake. With that many cooks in the kitchen mistakes are bound to slip through and that's totally fine, it happens. What isn't fine is going "nuh uh designers are god and everything they do is perfect I can't hear you" in response to criticism of those mistakes.
>>46182496
You are an idiot. 4 mana, deal 8 damage? It isn't supposed to stay on the field for long.
Have you ever encountered RDW or Burn or fucking any fast deck?
It is undertuned, 5 power would've been more reasonable, but what you are asking for is legitimately retarded.
>>46181097
Sorin was the only one who showed up to reseal the Eldrazi during the original Zendikar block.
Apparently, Nahiri was too busy doing other stuff to attend to her plane. I have zero sympathy for her in this instance, as far as we can tell she's lashing out at Sorin for not upholding a promise that she herself didn't uphold.
>>46178757
Shit has gone too far.
>>46183450
IIRC
Nahiri was there ready to go before Sorin/Ugin showed up.
Sorin and Ugin didnt respond to her summoning, and she left trying to find them.
i could be wrong though
>>46183405
It deals 4 damage then they swing back and fucking kill you because you furnace of rath'd yourself like a moron
>>46181073
If I had to rank them in terms of power level, the period from Shards of Alara to Return to Ravnica was pretty consistently powerful. Khans block was pretty solid as well.
Really, though, most sets are in the same neighborhood in terms of powerlevel, with a couple of standout cards that skew people's perceptions of how powerful those sets really are. Dark Confidant and the dredge cards in Ravnica, Bitterblossom and Vendilion Clique in Morningtide, Jace and Stoneforge in Worldwake, Liliana and Snapcaster in Innistrad, etc.
>>46179443
>had 13 pirogi for dinner
I'm doomed.
>>46179443
13 pls
>>46178859
Am i fucking blind or are there 15 already there , am i missing something here?
>>46178757
>no Mono-Green Mythic
> 2 mono white mythics and 4 white mythics all together, same is true for black and red.
haha jesus christ they shat on green so hard in the mythic department.
Werewolves though.
>>46183976
It's possible that we may get more than 15 mythics this set. Original Innistrad had 16, because flip Garruk apparently wasn't counted in the normal mythic count.
>>46183106
Flash lands is heard at my LGS, because you have to reveal or "flash" them another land. Not very good but Hand lands sounds retarded
>>46184036
>doesn't flip them
Fuck.
>>46184096
Flash means something completely different in the context of magic, that's a terrible name.
>>46184036
Why does the wording seem funny.
Each creature you control that's an subtype get +1/+1
isnt it normally like subtype creatures you control get +1/+1
>>46184132
>wants an uncommon with 3 abilites.
mtg's spoiled children everyone.
What about tangolands? :^)
>>46184146
I agree, maybe its to patch up some weird loophole since it has flash?
>>46184132
>Wanting good cards
How about you f*ck off, you little entitled shitlord?
>>46184142
That's what I said, flash lands sounds like they're instant speed or something, hopefully we can think of something better than Hand lands though
>>46184217
Show Lands
its very fucking obvious.
>>46184146
It's because it names 2 subtypes, wolf and werewolf. It's to make sure a creature that is both a wolf and a werewolf doesn't get +2/+2 from the card. For example if it was worded like usual it would be two seperate effects, or would be worded "wolf and werewolf creatures you control get +1 +1 and trample" which is very abnormal
>>46184304
ah thank you for clarifying.
Surprising how such a small thing is noticeable.
>>46184340
No problem, though I'm surprised tey bothered preventing that. I highly doubt they're will be any way in standard to make a creature both a wolf and a werewolf,
>>46181484
White has Balance type effects. Deal with it.
>>46178915
Why, in fuck's almighty name, would you want a reprint of Geist of Saint Traft or something equivalent. Fuck you, and fuck Innistrad Standard for having that card.
>>46183167
Powerlevel-wise? Sure.
Mechanically/flavor-wise? Best set since the last Innistrad.
>>46181904
It's not, but at the same time, I do need another real nice box. Plus it's probably worth it to somebody.
>>46181966
Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
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