I'm going away for a few weeks and my GM proposed that my character (druid elf, party healer) get kidnapped by the villain-du-jour. I said yes.
But now he's saying something different, that my character is going to spend those weeks in a dungeon getting raped and brainwashed. The brainwash part is interesting, there's good angst and roleplaying there. But I'm not sure about the sexual stuff.
I get that it would amp up the stakes for my party but I'm afraid it would taint my character somehow, or lead to awkward moments.
What do you think? Am I overreacting?
>>46057747
don't talk to us, talk to your DM
If it makes you feel uncomfortable, you and your DM should talk about it, and come to an agreement.
>>46057791
I did. I forgot to mention I flipped out on him when he mentioned the rapes if offhandedly. Then he called me a drama queen. Blah blah. Now I'm trying to think about it rationally.
>>46057747
If it makes you uncomfortable, I think you're perfectly within your rights to tell your GM to leave out the rape. It doesn't seem important to the story, anyway, since brainwashing should fuck your character up plenty by itself.
>>46057821
You should apologize for freaking out about it, then explain why you're having problems with the idea.
>>46057821
Tell him no, and keep telling him no. If he refuses to put your comfort over his desire to fap at the table, leave. There's no point in staying in a game with a GM who cares so little about his players.
A game is meant to be fun, and a roleplaying group carries with it an implicit bond of trust. Inflicting something like rape on a character without ensuring that it's okay ahead of time is just awful GMing, and you have every right to call out that bullshit.
What?
Who the fuck really does this?
You know, I'd consider leaving the game. Not because rape is that triggering for me, just because your DM sounds creepy. Either that or just have your character commit suicide every time they try it.
>>46057818
Yes that's the plan!
>>46057829
It's kind of topical since that villain is all about creating the perfect offspring, and my character's bloodline is special. I have this special power of body control etc. He wants me to bear his uberpowerful son or children army.
>>46057847
You're right, I will apologize.
>>46057852
He does care about his players he's actually a good DM usually but he doesn't listen super well.
>>46057747
God damn it anon, if it makes you uncomfortable you have to stand your ground and tell him assertive, without wavering "Fuck no. I will have no part in this: either you will drop the raping part, or I leave."
No game is better than a bad game, remember! It will only get worse if you let your GM strongarm you into these kind of things: I mean come on! Have at least a shred of self-respect!!
>>46057791
this.
>>46057747
>>46057821
Game should be fun for all players and for DM. Raping your character is not necessary. If he is treating you bad and instead of making game fun for everyone, trying to put his fetishes into play, then you should leave a party.
Don't play with an assholes you lil' chick, you gonna get hurt.
>>46057847
>You should apologize for freaking out about it
The fuck
>>46057747
Give him the finger and run for the hells.
>>46057951
Better yet have your current character commit suicide, and have your new character basically be a self insert for your own fetishes.
>a girl tries D&D
>the neckbeards immediately abuse her character
this is why we can't have nice things
>>46057868
The GM haven't done it yet, they were discussing it beforehand.
>>46057960
The GM was merely discussing with OP where he want to go with the story, not actually doing it.
To get flip out over it is uncalled for.
>>46057928
>cares about his players
>calls someone a drama queen when they get upset about him wanting to have their character raped
??????
>thinly veiled elf rape wat do thread
>>46057928
If the raping part makes you uncomfortable here's what you do: you go to him and tell him "Rape is a subject that makes me really uncomfortable: I will not have fun if that happens to my character. I talked about it with a friend and he agrees that if something in a game makes me uncomfortable, that I should leave if it isn't removed."
Good luck.
>>46058078
>shitposting when OP of the thread is genuinely asking for advice
I want /v/ to leave
>>46057928
>topical since that villain is all about creating the perfect offspring
Well you should have told us that upfront. It doesn't make sense for the villain NOT to rape your druid.
>>46058079
This. A million times this.
Let the GM know that it makes you uncomfortable. If he's not willing to remove it, then that's not a GM you want to be playing with.
>>46058096
>asking for advice
'Talk to your DM like a sane individual' is the only advice that can be given and it doesn't even need to be given. It's obvious.
>>46058096
What does this have to do with /v/?
>>46058116
It makes perfect sense because OP is not comfortable with their character being raped.
Fuck the fuck off.
>>46058116
'Making sense' should always be a lower priority than making a player uncomfortable. Lots of awful GMs justify their bullshit as 'making sense' (which justifies nothing, since they're the people who lay out the logic of the game/world/setting to begin with.)
>>46058150
>It's obvious.
Nothing is obvious when you're dealing with autists, I'll have you know.
fa/tg/uys are not the brightest when it comes to interacting with other people. But that's obvious.
>>46058155
That's not how sense works.
>>46058158
>they're the people who lay out the logic of the game
Yeah it sounds like her GM specifically created a that villain with the rape in mind.
>>46057928
>>46058116
In this instance, if the player is uncomfortable with it, the GM can easily institute a reason as to why he didn't, like him casting spells and doing bloodwork to make sure there are no complications, or waiting until the brainwashing is complete so she doesn't try and escape with the child.
Perhaps it isn't the right time of the month so the villain knows trying would be a waste of time. Perhaps the villain is away and has instructed his followers to not lay a hand on her aside from the brainwashing in order to keep her as a sufficient vessel.
There are plenty of ways to justify it without having a rape occur.
>>46058195
If pedophilia makes you uncomfortablewhich it should, then you wouldn't want to have it in your game.
But it wouldn't make sense for people not to be pedophiles, since there are people like that irl.
Would you like to hear this kind of excuse from your GM?
>>46058153
they were the pre-/pol/ post-/b/ boogeyman
>>46058012
I wish this was funny. I really do.
>>46058079
Pretty much this. Players and GMs gotta be able to talk or you'll just have forced laughter all around.
And I can only imagine this thread going down the toilet.
>>46057747
Honestly, if you're going to disrupt the game by not taking part for several weeks, it's your duty to cooperate with the GM as best as you can and help him make up for your absence.
As such, you should allow him to do whatever he pleases with your character and even provide input of your own. This is one of those situations where it will be beneficial to roleplay the rape in advance, so that you have a better understanding of what will have happened to your character by the time you return.
>>46058153
everything's /v/'s fault nowadays apparently.
>>46058230
Exactly, but that doesn't count for shit.
The game isn't about the GM & his pet villains, it's about the players & their journeys.
>>46058268
spotted the fucktard GM..
>>46058268
>roleplay the rape in advance
w-what? how would that even work?
>>46057928
So, the Villain has you brainwashed and is waiting for some particularly auspicious moment to "do the deed" for maximum power or what ever, that handily doesn't take place until after you return and can be rescued.
It absolutely doesn't need to happen, even if it "fits the theme"
Also, don't apologize for freaking out. Your reaction was exactly how you felt, and that's more than valid. If anything it should show your DM how bad of an idea it is.
>>46058153
basically this >>46058258
/v/ is /b/2.0
/pol/ is /b/3.0
>>46058249
There is also the possibility that even this villain doesn't like rape. Sometimes even the bad guys have standards. We don't know anything about him, OP should tell us more.
>>46058268
This is the worst fucking advice I've ever heard.
"My GM is doing a thing that makes me uncomfortable."
"WELL THEN WHY NOT JUST GO ALONG WITH IT, THEN TRAP YOURSELF ALONE WITH HIM"
Leave the game you pussy
Your character isn't you, if the context of your character being raped makes sense don't be a bitch about it.
Why is crying about character rape seen as valid but not literally anything else on /tg/?
>>46058230
>>46058268
>>46058347
>Why is crying about character rape seen as valid but not literally anything else on /tg/?
What the fuck are you talking about?
>BBEG has literal rape dungeons he plans to send a PC
Jesus how is this not just a red flag with buzzers to leave instantly?
>>46058249
>>46058313
Thank you both for your awesome ideas. Those are actually great compromises because it lets the villain try his evil plan and my character doesn't have to be completely traumatized.
I'm texting my GM right now.
>>46058268
Can't tell if serious
>>46058339
Indeed... /tg/ is going to shit
>>46058392
Summer comes early.
>>46058339
I bet it would have gone better if they had phrased it as 'my DM is trying to make me enter their rape-dungeon magical realm'
>>46058254
Whether or not I'd like to hear it is irrelevant. The DM's statement is true- In a realistic setting, there are pedophiles, and it is sensible to assume that pedophiles exist in a setting that aims for a realistic depiction of humans(or otherwise) from a psychological/physiological perspective.
Now, if that makes me uncomfortable(Which it doesn't, because I'm not a hypersensitive child that needs his depictions of evil watered down) I would simply tell the DM that while yes, it does make sense, I'd like it if he found an alternative.
Your feelings don't effect basic reason, and when it comes to storytelling, bad people can and should exist. It's fine if that makes you uncomfortable, but DO NOT sit there and say it's fucking sensible for characterization to alter in order to fit your comfort.
Don't get me wrong- I think any good DM should be able to respect people's boundaries, emotionally and mentally. Even if it's something retarded like "Oranges make me upset. "
But I'm not going to sit and tell you that you're being reasonable because you want to arbitrarily remove one moral atrocity from a game/setting/story that is BUILT upon moral atrocities(As any mature depiction of a world as whole must, inevitably, be ).
>>46058310
ERP
>>46057747
> I'm afraid it would taint my character somehow, or lead to awkward moments.
How would it taint your character?
Like, let's move past the whole part where this is really awkward to talk about.
And move towards how you could use this to enhance your character.
All you have to do is firmly set boundaries about magical realm and that kind of thing, and BOOM, you get a trauma that you can use to amp up your character game.
Not exactly the greatest thing to do. But it's one of those things that's doable.
Though, really, the way your GM seemingly went on about it, and the way you freaked out, has already created an awkward moment.
>>46057747
Rape your DM then whisper in his ear
"Do you still want to rape my character in the game?"
That will make him reconsider
>GM totally wants to rape me gais
>btw I'm a grill
Why do you guys even believe these stories. /tg/ will use any chance they get to fucking white knight.
>>46058310
By meeting with the GM or communicating with them by email or text. Whatever medium they choose to us, they can proceed to describe how each character acts in the process of the rape and maybe even roll for certain things if they feel like it. It can be enjoyable, OP just needs to man up and get into it.
>>46058424
It's completely reasonable to request to change something that makes someone uncomfortable. Grow up.
>>46058424
Nice false equivalency. In this case it is the obvious example of the pc playing a child, and the GM is having the villain molest his/her character. Please don't come back.
>>46058424
I don't mean to alarm you but your lenghty post only makes me feel as though you're trying to defend your magical realm. And it's not working particularly well.
Mainly because there's a fuckhuge difference between oranges and... I don't know, rape?
>>46057747
If you're uncomfortable with it personally, tell your DM that and don't allow it. If you're just worried it will make things weird amongst the party ICly, I wouldn't worry about that too much.
If you're worried it will make other people at the table uncomfortable OOCly, then bring that up with your DM. There's sort of a way to have your cake and eat it too, there; have it happen but don't ever explicitly say it, just sort of vaguely imply it, and have your character refuse to talk about it.
>>46058426
>Rape
>Erotic
jesus christ
>>46058424
Unless the entire campaign hinges on the BBEG being a pedophile and collecting evidence on this fact, it's the sort of thing that can be ignored, glossed over, or just not brought up entirely.
You don't need to explicitly have some villain railing lolis in-game in order to have pedophiles exist. The players know pedophiles exist, they'll assume they also exist in this world.
>>46058367
/tg/ gets up in arms defending some cunt crying about here character being ( reasonably ) raped.
But if you were to cry on here about anything else happening to your character you would just be called That Guy
>But the magical gem of cast wish is in my characters backstory! You're literally raping my character by saying I can't have that!
or
>Why do I die because I ran alone into the big bad evil guy! Shitty GM you shouldn't kill me because I'm retarded!
Would be justly ridiculed. But OP is a dumb player okay with their character getting got by the villain and gets upset when a villain does evil things like a bitch and the sjw brigade white knights to her defense. It's bullshit.
If she doesn't what villain doing villainous things to her character, maybe she should just decline the idea of her getting kidnapped by the villain. Otherwise she shouldn't be complaining about what happens to her character after she literally places her character in the villains hands.
>>46058463
>>46058478
'Wah wah my feelings hurt I don't understand why that doesn't make the universe wrong and me right'
Get over yourselves. It's OK to be irrational. That still doesn't make it rational.
>>46058488
Hey m8, it ain't me, it's the gm.
>>46058488
Some women are into forceful sex and mistake their fetish with rape fetish. It exists.
But it's not a reason to force it on players.
>>46058457
wait did OP say they're female? I assume they're a fat bastard until we get photographed proof
Is the rape necessary for the brainwashing? By which means does the brainwahsing work? Magic? Drugs? I don't see why the rape part would be important, this isn't some kind of rape->ahegao mind-break doujin.
>>46058496
>waaah muh feelings make me overlook the fact that I made a logical fallacy!
Please die scum of the human race.
>>46058518
the BBEG wants to have babies with her
>>46058496
Again, grow up.
>>46058494
Are you kidding? /tg/ almost always jumps on the side of OP when they complain about the DMs magical realm.
I've seen plenty of threads advising the OP to talk to the DM or drop the game when they ask if they should go along with hearing vivid descriptions of NPCs getting molested by tentacles or whatever.
>>46058518
Well, it is in the GMs chinese pornography comics so yes?
>>46058503
Yeah, of course.
Some people are into that, but there's a specific name for it:
>Consensual Non-Consent.
Not >Rape.
>>46058496
Then you basically agree with the premise that if something that doesn't need being brought up and it makes somebody uncomfortable and/or isn't appropriate (like having a lurid description of entrails being brought out and gushing arterial blood if you GM for children), then the GM shouldn't bring it up?
>/tg/ in general bitches about introducing magical realms into games
>gm does so
>people crawl out of the woodworks to defend his right to do so
Stay classy /tg/
>>46058538
Rape isn't inherently magical realm.
>>46058494
Nice strawman. So because I can't make it for a couple of sessions it's fine for my GM to kill off my character/have him raped?
Man, am I glad I am not in your group.
>>46058496
>Not wanting to be forced to roleplay a traumatic sexual scenario with a random dude
>Irrational
I don't think you have a good grasp on what counts as rational.
>>46058489
That's kind of what my point was. There's alternatives that exist, and that's fine. The plot need not hinge on pedophiles existing.
My issue wasn't with the idea of a person asking a DM not to include something, my issue was with some enlightened individual spouting off about how if somebody feels uncomfortable, that's reason enough for a logical action not to be taken.
Which is bullshit. If a villain would rape a character, and that character's player doesn't want to be raped, rather than sacrificing a developmental element of the villain's characterization, create a situation in which the villain can't rape the person, for some reason or another.
But don't just go "lolnothappening" and provide zero explanation. That's how you run in to character inconsistencies. Ones that detract from the storytelling experience.
>>46058494
Being brainwashed is pretty villainous. Doesn't need rape.
>>46058573
No, but if it is happening to the PC it more than fucking likely is.
>>46058532
Ah, sorry, didn't see this.90% chance /tg/ is falling for obvious bait
>>46058496
>>46057747 (OP)
If your uncomfortable with your character getting raped you could just make it so your character gets cloned or something perhaps if you gave your DM an alternative he'd be more willing to listen.
>>46058573
>The DM wants to hypnotize you, rape you, and have you become pregnant
This is my Fetish and even I'll admit it'd be Magical Realm to do
>>46058584
>It'swhatmycharacterwoulddo
the post
I thought /tg/ was better than that
>>46058532
More than fucking likely it wouldn't surprise me if the DM made this plot point after looking at the character sheet of the player.
>>46058593
Or if the rape is based on a plot hook as in this case.
>>46058574
>So because I can't make it for a couple of sessions it's fine for my GM to kill off my character/have him raped?
It's fine for that to happen when you literally accept your DM having you vulnerable to the villians whims by having your character kidnapped by the villian.
If you don't like that idea and the consequences it brings, don't let that happen. Just say you decided to fuck off in a well defended good aligned city for a little while.
>>46058593
No. OP already said her character is super special snowflake bloodline, wanting to breed it to create supersoliders is a legitimate plot thread that has nothing to do with sexual fetishes.
Maybe OPs character shouldn't have been such a snowflake if she didn't want the character to get raped for them magical bloodline hax.
>>46058584
Who here was advocating providing no explanation? It really doesn't require much thinking to provide a reason
>The villain is going to rape your character after taking them prisoner
>Instead, they get called away from the prison for some more important task, intent on raping the prisoner when they return, giving the party a chance for resuce/that character a chance for escape.
>>46058626
>implying /tg/ is better than this
We are the Imperium anon, the last bastion of humanity slowly decaying away.
>>46058647
Read the post just above you.
>>46058532
And the GM is at a complete liberty to change this. Like, for example, brainwashing her into going back to elven lands to convince elven maiden into captivity because he doesn't believe she's worthy to take his seed or whatever if we really have to stay into the creep zone.
>>46058664
>maybe OPs character shouldn't have been such a snowflake if she didn't want the character to get raped
>it's her fault
>she's asking for it
>look at her flaunting her bloodlines
>literally victim blaming
>>46058550
Yeah, entirely. I just don't agree with the idea of removing a key aspect of characterization. I'd argue that if you're DMing for children, you made a fool's mistake in making a character who's going to get excessively violent/gory about things, or somehow relies on it to properly express who they are.
My point is that simply placing a censor bar over a given topic is retarded, when you're better off replacing the topic entirely, or creating a situation in which the topic is avoided. But to simply say "My geneticist rape-druid villain won't rape your elf even though she's been kidnapped because your feelings wont' allow for it. " is retarded. Just have somebody else capture her. Have her get captured by henchmen, and make the first priority on the player's return whacking those henchmen before she can be taken to the villain. But nullifying an action without a reasonable explanation to make up for it is just bad play.
>>46058664
>It's fine for that to happen when you literally accept your DM having you vulnerable to the villians whims by having your character kidnapped by the villian.
No it isn't. And if you think that it's better for your game to make your players uncomfortable and unfun to sit at your table, that's on you.
I can just be glad that I am not playing with scum like you.
>>46058683
>15 seconds apart
So sorry, buddy.
>>46058689
Why not let his minions rape her then? If he's able to go so far I don't see why he would throw the goods away.
>>46057747
tell him where he can stick his magical realm bullshit
>>46057747
Say character retired for some reason and left/died so your druid doesn't get raped.
Then re-roll a male character.
>>46058664
>Maybe OPs character shouldn't have been such a snowflake if she didn't want the character to get raped for them magical bloodline hax.
Or the fucking dm could have just made it that he needs her fucking blood to perform a magical ritual in order to infuse his henchmen with supersolider strength. It's fucking clear it's a god damn magical realm and your retarded ass hat brain can't see that.
Why is this even in a nonERP game in the first place? Sounds like the greasy machinations of someone who read too many Korean love novels, I would know.
>>46058675
The dude who said "It's perfect sense for the story to have your outside feelings effect the behavior of another person's character. "
>>46058570
I don't want to defend the DM, I just want to tell the faggots in this thread to fuck off with their moral hysteria.
These goony goons are probably the type of players irl who want to unironically use X-cards.
>>46058374
>and my character doesn't have to be completely traumatized
Lots of rape victims get by without being too traumatized. Things are worse for them because everyone talks like it's the worst thing to ever happen and that their lives are basically over.
Is the mindfuck and brainwashing somehow less bad and traumatizing for you than the run of the mill rape? Serious answers please.
>>46058700
4chan is so up in arms about SJWs that as a whole, people take the opposite stance at whatever they say. If you say "victim blaming", because it's a phrase used by SJWs, they'll be completely fucking okay with saying it's the victim's fault.
>>46058739
Why would he? Do you enjoy breaking your tools for foolish reasons?
>>46058731
>implying I was blaming you for not reading my post
>>46058704
And that's on the player and DM to work together and find alternatives. People in this thread have suggested many alternatives.
The player saying they're not comfortable with it and the DM going, 'Well, sorry, it's what the villain would do, and there's no way to stop him' when he is omnipotent in this world is bad on his part.
He can have the prison attacked by a dragon if he wanted, have the villain go out to fight it, win, and get too injured to rape her, allowing time for escape.
What is difficult about this?
>>46058723
>No it isn't.
Yes it is.
Do you complain when you do something retarded and your DM gives you consequences for doing something stupid?
Same fucking thing. OPs character gets caught by villain, shit happens.
Maybe she shouldn't have volunteered to have been caught by the villain then.
The white knights are the ones who sound unrealistic.
>Villain does villainous. Oh, except rape. He just doesn't for some reason even though it involves one of his goals and reason he's a villain.
>>46058765
That doesn't mean to skip over all story explanation. That just means the feelings of the players at the table is more important than the lives of fictional characters.
>>46058664
That's silly. The enjoyment of the players should always take priority when you're DMing. If they aren't happy, you're not doing your job right.
>>46058785
>Is the mindfuck and brainwashing somehow less bad and traumatizing for you than the run of the mill rape
Simple answer. They are equally both fucking shit.
>>46058762
>Or the fucking dm could have just made it that he needs her fucking blood to perform a magical ritual in order to infuse his henchmen with supersolider strength
If you could do that it wouldn't be a super special snowflake bloodline though.
Honestly I would have gone for cloning her, but rape is just as viable for a villain to be doing.
>>46058787
>Do you enjoy breaking your tools for foolish reasons?
If I don't need it anymore I give it to someone else that might want it.
>>46058374
OP here if anyone is still interested. I apologized to my GM by text and tried to reach a compromise, like the players save me before the rape.
My GM texted me back that if I'm not okay with my character being abused she still has to be inseminated, and it needs that to happen for plot purposes but "doesn't want to say more".
I'm not sure what insemination without abuse means, and I asked him to clarify but he just responded "SIGH".
So... Things might be better now? Not sure what to think.
>>46058824
Then they should've said that instead of replying to a post specifically addressing sensible character behavior with "It's sensible for your character not to act that way if my feelings say so. "
>>46058806
>Do you complain when you do something retarded and your DM gives you consequences for doing something stupid?
But she didn't do anything stupid: she's only not able to make it to a couple of sessions.
>Maybe she shouldn't have volunteered to have been caught by the villain then.
She hasn't: the GM proposed it.
For the love of humanity, stop dragging this board down with your idiocy.
>>46058845
>super special snowflake bloodline
It's called a fucking bloodline for a reason anon.
>>46058832
Yet the part everyone here is complaining about is the non-consensual pee pee in vagoo, not the complete destruction of a living beings mind to make them a retarded fuckpuppet. Priorities.
>>46058806
Or, look at any of the alternative suggestions for why the Villain wouldn't rape her right away.
Being brainwashed is already a consequence. It's not as though they're getting away scott-free.
>>46058774
Normal people can feel uncomfortable about rape, if the gm is going to add these subjects, let the players know a head of time or just think, "gee does this seem weird to have rape dungeons?" And plan accordingly to let it get skipped over if players are t feeling it, like a rational person would.
>>46058774
Stop building strawmen. It started by a fucking discussion, why the fuck do you bring the X card in that? Don't you have any argument besides charging at windmills?
It's not a fucking moral hysteria, it's somebody being uninterested and uncomfortable at something happening in game, that's it.
>>46058863
Confront him in front of the group about it: see wht the others think about this idea and see to it that they agree with you beforehand to stop the GMs magical realm before it starts.
Better to cut it at the bud before it has a chance to grow.
>>46058863
Jesus fuck, did he literally say it like that? That's hella creepy.
>>46058870
>But she didn't do anything stupid
Well, she made a female character, didn't she?
>>46058863
He may place some semen into you by magical means, without your character ever noticing? Sounds really unerotic.
Can you give us some informations about your BBEG, that could help.
>>46058864
>It's sensible for your character not to act that way if my feelings say so.
Except the gameworld is the fucking contraption of the DM, so it doesn't fucking matter in the first place what the "character" (read: a fictional character), since he can change it at any time.
>>46058870
>But she didn't do anything stupid: she's only not able to make it to a couple of sessions.
Reread the thread.
She volunteered to have her character to be kidnapped.
>She hasn't: the GM proposed it.
Look up the definition of "proposal". The GM asked, she accepted.
White knight harder, fag.
>>46058863
Tell that fag to come up with magical cloning instead and leave his impregnation fetish out of the game.
>>46058862
>not needing tools
fuccboi
>>46058863
Just leave.
>he just responded "SIGH".
Just fucking leave.
>>46058863
It sounds like he's planned this out for a little bit now, and he's trying to still make a pregnancy thing work he's got figured out, but doesn't want to actually spoil the story.
I'd say just tell him you'd really need to know the specifics of what's happening, even if it is spoiler-y, to decide on what you're cool with. I'd also recommend suggesting some alternatives to him- If you create a dialogue about what direction to take the story, maybe things will hammer out more smoothly, because you'll have an active voice in what direction you'd like to see things go with your character.
>>46058864
>'But it's what my character would do!'
Is not a viable excuse. It doesn't work when the party rogue tries to justify stealing from them, and it works even less here.
These are real people sitting around a table with you. They're more important than whatever happens to a fictional character.
If it's that outlandish to you to have someone act out of character because of feelings, then try and find a reason for them to do so.
>>46058916
I'd almost say fair enough but I would hope that the stereotype isn' actually t the norm in the gaming community, and then probably be disappointed deeply.
>>46057747
>but I'm afraid it would taint my character somehow
Not really, sex doesn't taint a character and rape is just forced sex. Basically a kind of torture.
I'd say if anything brainwashing would "taint" the character more because the goal is to change the mind and spirit of said person.
>Am I overreacting
Not really, if the GM wants to pull story mode events on a character, then the player of said character needs to be okay with it since its not running on rules, just what the GM says.
You are fully within your rights to not allow this if you don't want to
>What do you think
I think your GM is trying to put in either a fetish or a lazy story plot point to crank up the drama and EEEEVILness of said villain.
If you don't want your character to be raped and he's doing it behind the scenes story mode then you can just say no.
>>46058845
>what are sorcerers
>>46058924
>I'm going away for a few weeks and my GM proposed that my character (druid elf, party healer) get kidnapped by the villain-du-jour. I said yes.
I read that he proposed it and she said that it is okay if she gets kidnapped. Then the GM changed it around and says that she should be raped.
Seriously, go back to school...
>>46058916
I guess the stupid part was believing that not all men think with their dicks first?
>>46058923
>Arbitrarily changing established characters or rules
Then you complain about railroading
>>46058950
>"But it's what my character would do!"
>I throw your character off a cliff because thats what my character would do if someone he trusted had betrayed him.
>>46058424
1) it's still a game not the real world
2) from the sound of it the only reason op is in this situation is because he agreed to be captured because he wouldn't be able to attend for a few weeks. Its perfectly reasonable for him not to want / and demand not to experience any life changing traumas
>>46058863
>I'm not sure what insemination without abuse means, and I asked him to clarify but he just responded "SIGH".
Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave.
>>46058970
>I read that he proposed it and she said that it is okay if she gets kidnapped.
Getting kidnapped and thus having your life under the control under the campaigns villain has consequences, of which rape is possibly one of the consequences. By allowing her character to be kidnapped, she surrendered control of her character to the villain.
This is not a hard concept to grasp.
>what are sorcerers
Sorcerers don't necessarily have special snowflake bloodlines that can make supersoldiers.
>>46058923
He can only change it to the extent that other people are unfamiliar with the dude's actions.
For example- If Druid man raped a bunch of non-player characters before, and it wasn't an issue because no one's character had been raped, it would be unrealistic to presume that the Druid simply wouldn't do his best to sow his darwinistic seed given the opportunity.
So instead of destroying the character, simply deny the opportunity.
You're completely right- The gameworld is a contraption of the DM. If they're a good DM, it's a very nicely put together contraption that has a lot of moving parts, and they all work together in such a way that it immerses you in to the game.
So please have some goddamn respect for it, and don't assume changing a character's decisions, ideologies, or fundamental characteristics is easy when they've been implanted in to a breathing setting with consequences and history.
>>46058874
We are talking about the rape because that is the most blatant sexual thing in the post, and the OP seemed to have partially separated the two. Now that you pointed it out.... yeah it's fucking magical realm.
The rape part is just more offensive part of it. I have no problem if rape is in the game, but fucking keep that shit away from the PCs. the mind rape part would basically be tossed with the That GM:
>Because you're going away for a game, I'll make your character unplayable!
which is slightly better than Magical Realm GM.
>>46058787
>>46058930
>Why would he? Do you enjoy breaking your tools for foolish reasons?
That's a very poor attempt at understanding a villainous mindset.
A warlord will reward his followers, not even because he wants to ensure their loyalty, but because they're his boys and he looks after them. You do nice shit for your dog because you like him, not because you need to keep him on side or he'll bite you.
>>46058845
>super special snowflake bloodline
I've actually seen these put to good use
If they don't give the PC itself any real boons, but they make themselves a target for BBEG dejour, or make certain forms of magic or attack incredibly effective on them.
>>46059027
>the lolbarry
What godforsaken place is that?
>>46058950
I'd argue that the DM is the only individual who can make that claim. Because he controls literally the entire world, so he can, unlike the players, shift the entire setting as he pleases to meet the demands of what his characters would reasonably do.
In short, it's not an excuse, it's a standard. And if you can't meet that standard as a DM WITHOUT making your players grossly uncomfortable, you're a shitty DM.
>>46058863
Just fucking leave, odds are he's from here and there's no arguing with these levels of autism
>*SIGH*
Why haven't you left yet?
>>46059015
Have you never heard that excuse before? It's only useful when you do something objectionable.
"It's what my character would do!" doesn't need to be said when the paladin protects the innocent and smites undead.
"It's what my character would do!" becomes a problem when you start dicking over somebody else at the table, showing clearly that if that is what your character would do, then they shouldn't be a member of the group.
>>46058863
>inseminated
if he actually used that word : run
>>46058863
Just stop being a pussy and go with it, you faggot.
Good god, players nowadays are such weaklings, can't take anything bad happening to them.
>>46058884
Look at the beginning of the thread. See how many posts are going on about "uncomfortable" and phrasing their posts like white knight drivel.
Nobody questions the two obvious things:
1. The fact that "hurf durf you get captured because reasons" DM fiat is fucking retarded.
2. The OP story is textbook bait that has been posted on /tg/ a thousand times.
>>46058863
Tell him it's a deal breaker.
I'm a DM of over 20 years, and there is NO plot line that can't be adapted, especially when it comes to things your players aren't comfortable with.
Find a new game, because this one isn't worth it.
>>46058863
>she still has to be inseminated,
>it needs that to happen for plot purposes >"doesn't want to say more"
>>46059090
>That GM
JESUS OP FLEE
>>46059037
>Sorcerers don't necessarily have special snowflake bloodlines that can make supersoldiers.
They can, if the GM wills it.
Face it, you are clutching at straws: the GM has so many alternatives that do not include rape and yet he is arguing so much about it instead of looking for a different, better way to not make the game shitty for one of his players.
I'm not going to list them all again, but cloning, blood letting, kill her as a sacrifice or something could be an alternative: in the thread we've discussed it extensively.
The GM is only looking for an excuse to push his magical realm into the game and that is not OK.
>>46058863
>these replies
Maximum overtumblr engaged.
>>46059023
1) Not really relevant to what's being discussed.
2) Also has nothing to do with whether or not what that guy said constitutes "sense."
I never argued that the DM shouldn't change his plans. I only argued that it's dumb to call it sense when it's inherently predisposed on people finding importance in the irrational feelings of others.
Which, again, don't get me wrong, is something I support. A person 100% should consider the feelings of those around them over a fucking game's lore. But it still doesn't mean blind removal of a concept is sensible.
>>46058917
He's a elf supremacist, worried that the ancient superior bloodlines are weakening. He says elves were created perfect by the gods and then everything went to shit later with the other races and modern "mutt elves" (half-humans I guess).
He despises my character and calls her a race-traitor, although he's tried to recruit her twice.
Um what else? He also this whole thing about natural order and unnatural chaos, he says that our orc party leader is an agent of chaos. It all goes back to Lawful Gods and Chaotic Gods I think. To be honest some of the world building escapes me. But basically he wants to restore the old way of things before the Chaotic Gods perverted everything.
Does that help at all? I feel like I'm being really unclear.
This thread is why women shouldn't be allowed at the table.
Dumb cunts make a female character than cry when the biggest obvious difference between sexes is used as a plot device.
See this shit? This is exactly why women weren't allowed to be warriors in real life. All this white knighting.
>>46059087
>if that is what your character would do, then they shouldn't be a member of the group.
Agreed, I had someone continuously do this in my RP group, pissed everyone off, and he would get really angry anytime something bad happened to his character.
He's gone now
>>46058958
>>46058971
Yeah.
>>46058863
>she still has to be inseminated
>>46058981
Actually I don't, so shut up.
>>46059045
>shithappens
Honestly, I would agree with you, but it's fucking clear that the DM doesn't understand that. Thus, he can't properly handle that situation, and needs to have the R rating of his game fucking smacked away form him.
Who gives a shit, why is this even being discussed. Even the thread title resembles clickbait. Fuck off.
>>46059164
Here's your (You).
>>46057747
This is when you casually bring up the fact that your character has dentata, it reacts subconsciously whenever you are having non-consensual sex, going even beyond magical compulsion. You bite off the BBEG's dick.
>>46059162
Your BBEG sounds based, side with him and destroy those lesser races with your aryan soldiers.
>>46059162
>despises your character
>tried to recruit her twice anyway
It's worse than we thought, he's a shitty gm too.
>>46059164
>promoting magical realm under the guise of shouting "SJWuasss!"
>>46059180
>Who gives a shit, why is this even being discussed
Because /tg/ is full of retards from ribbit, tumblr and SA thanks to 1d4chan shilling offsite, and not enough people tell the cancerous newfags to go fuck off.
>>46059164
tell me how comfortable you'dd be when your characters dick gets shopped of and an iron rod gets shoved up his asshole
>>46059224
Go jack off about the Hasbro ebin raid somewhere else, retard.
>>46059159
Not really anything "tumblr" about it, this is just lazy storytelling and a DM assuming their players will go along with some odd possibly disastrous out of game shenanigans
>>46059164
Not really dude, it sounds like DM wants to get OPs character preggers, which could have some serious in game effects on stats and performance, all without rolls or any chance to affect the outcome.
>>46059220
I'll say it again.
Rape isn't inherently magical realm.
Wanting to use a special snowflake to create magical bloodline soldiers isn't sexual but may require sex to fulfill.
>>46059170
That would be the player's actions pissing people off, rather than the character. Equally valid reason to remove someone.
If somebody is an otherwise good player, and they express interest in a particular specific bad thing not happening to their character, then it's in the DMs best interest to talk to them about it and work with them.
>>46059162
does he post on a certain containment board by any chance ?
>>46058863
FUCKING RAILROADING SHITHEAD
LEAVE LEAVE LEAVEActually, get inseminated anyways, and then get an abortion.
>>46059254
>Rape
>Mind-control
>Impregnation
Yes, it is.
>>46059257
Pffffhahaha.
>>46059229
My character would be fucked up, and I would role play him being fucked up.
Do you bitch and whine about your character being tortured by the enemies he makes too, you fucking carebear?
>>46059258
I mean it's an awful idea, but it would crash the GMs fetish train real quick.
>>46059258
>magical abortion
I wonder if that's already come up in D&D. Probably right?
>>46059254
>>46058863
Yep he's an autistic creep no Mather your real gender.
Now here's my idea.
Have your PC die in a way you like.
Reroll a male chaotic good grappling Bardbarian who's a homosexual and wants the BBEGs ass.
>>46059295
ITG Force to the rescue.
>>46059045
>wouldn't do his best to sow his darwinistic seed given the opportunity
I've been running a low fantasy setting for a few months, and one character continously fucks as many women as he can before, after, and sometimes during any given quest, and asks me to roll for knocking up the NPCs
So I do, and sometimes its successful, but I don't tell him. I'm planning a timeskip when he's beset by a literal horde of his own spawn that he abandoned.
>>46059254
doesn't mean he has to rape her being the point , especially if the player is uncomfortable with it
he could just as easily try to win her over to his point of view for a couple of months
cause he's gonna have one hell of a hard time explaining the chosen one that he's a rape baby
>>46059176
I dunno. We're hearing his responses as explained paraphrased through an internet forum after interpreting the emotional response of a blankly stated text message.
I'm not saying this dude CAN'T be a socially inept weirdo with no respect for people's feelings, but I am saying there's a possibility he's just a frustrated GM who made a convoluted plot, perhaps built on a few faulty assumptions due to whatever, and he's trying to work things out in a way that doesn't make his whole plotthread come crashing down.
If this dude is some kind of racial maniac pureblood nutjob, I can see exactly why a pregnancy would be some key part of the story, and would create a lot of emotional tension whilst also providing an opportunity for further examination of moral elements regarding the different factions of the game.
But this is all assuming he's a good DM and not just magical realming the shit out of this poor girl. I'm not saying he's in the right, I'm saying we're wrong for simply assuming he's an awful human being just because, as far as we can tell, he's poorly articulating his desires/plans for the direction of the story.
>>46059254
What if the GM gets off to the idea of an army of super elves?
>>46059341
In general, yes, maybe.
>SIGH
In that case, it's pretty clear he's a giant fucking autist baby.
>>46059229
>rape = fatal levels of mutilation
Ok tumblr.
>>46059325
>autistic creep
Yep, definitely tumblr.
>>46059370
We just entered my magical realm.
OP should betray the party, that would make for a hell of a session.
>>46058863
RAPE YOUR GM!
Also, this is what you get for gms who have to "TELL MUH SPESHUL STORY"
Enjoy your D&D and WOD faggots
>>46059255
>they express interest in a particular specific bad thing not happening to their character
I usually play with some thick skinned RPers, but I have some newbies in the group and they don't seem to bothered by things out of character.
They were pretty outraged in character by a child slave ring (transporting the children to be raised as expendable shock troops) but totally chill out of character.
>>46059306
Probably, but the gm won't allow it probably. The character would probably need to find an alchemical, or physical way... (Literally last fucking resort. It's fucking horrible)
>>46059336
That is fucking hilarious.
Main villain of my story is a prince, killed six brothers to reach inheritance of the Crown, and it turns out he's the only one of them who's a secret bastard, along with half of the orphans in the capital city.
Villain worked so goddamn hard to reach the position where he can get the crown, and when the evidence comes in for it, it's going to turn out that his claim is no more valid than that kid with a similar jawline selling clams by the docks.
>>46059341
Honestly yes we should give him the benefit of the doubt, but
>SIGH
Showed us he's what we feared he is.
>>46059370
What if I get off on the idea of a mixed gender army of an egalitarian kingdom all wearing full covering and practical armor?
With some minor acknowledgements of gender dimorphism like men mostly being in the front of the formations and having archers and cavalry being primarily female?
>>46058602
that is exactly the picture I was gonna post
Have your PC cover herself in anthrax spores and then fuck the BBEG in the rape dungeon. Owned scrub!
>>46059460
But then you would be wrong because archery requires arm muscle strength and stamina of which females statistically have less of than males.
>>46059418
And that's your group. And that's fine.
What works for your group doesn't necessarily work for every group.
>>46059418
I agree with >>46059493
>>46059435
Ha, nice, but then it becomes a meritocracy when everyone has equal claim. It still sounds like hes in a good position
the PC in my campaign is a minor noble with really poor family relations right now.
He's either going to have to fight his offspring or turn them into an army.
Of course some NPCs I give higher rolls to because they are drinking their moon tea.
OP here.
>>46058863
Okay I just got off the phone with the DM.
I told him I don't feel comfortable with the sex stuff at all and he acknowledged that.
He was very annoyed at having to reveal his whole grand plan. He told me he was going to have my character impregnated down the line anyway, and it was necessary to the campaign. He wouldn't say more. We more or less agreed on having my character magically inseminated and brainwashed but not physically raped.
So, hurray! I feel awkward about all this but I'm not triggered or anything. And I'm glad we got past the rape issue. I'm not sure where he's going with all of this but I don't think it's about him getting off.
Thank you all!
>>46059460
I'd allow it on the condition you keep it under the table.
>>46058390
>>46058310
>>46058339
>>46058390
>>46058392
I can't believe you people can't recognize joke bait. Yes, baiting is still shitposting even when it is done for a joke, but you should all just either report/hide it if it isnt funny to you or just laugh at it and move on. This whole post was instantly made clear as a joke he said you should roleplay the rape. Half the reason /tg/ is going to shit (which is a myth, it has been shit since day one like the rest of 4chan, don't pretend this website is anything other than us whiling away the hours until our deaths) is that so many people can't understand a joke even when it isn't in the form of bait like this.
>>46059490
Crossbows, with levers, or using your legs to set the bolt due to female bodies having decent lower body strength.
Also stamina isn't a problem for females either, its mostly upper body strength where males have the biggest advantage.
>>46059587
>whiling away the hours until our deaths
That arguably describes the totality of human occupations sweetie.
>>46059563
>forced pregnancy and brainwashing
your GM does not seem like a cool guy
>>46059535
Yeah, the party's working for a fantasy-communist that wants to destroy anything resembling a classist power structure. The King holds ALL of the power, so the "Victory conditions" are getting enough proof together to challenge his claim, and then either beating him in a duel, convincing the nobility to try and out him, or(as their boss wants), facilitate a peasant uprising to have the entire system upended.
The real twist on it is that the Villain is actually a really good leader and all of the peasants are pretty happy under his rule, so it then becomes a matter of contrasting the necessity for an ethical leader over a good one, or an ethical society that can't protect and provide for its people over an unethical one that can.
>>46059460
Then you're in luck, because you're generally well catered for.
>>46059563
>He told me he was going to have my character impregnated down the line anyway, and it was necessary to the campaign.
>not about him getting off.
im-fucking-plying
>>46059563
>>46059563
That really solves nothing, it still feeds his fetishes, now with just "MAGIC" making it happen, Jesus just leave the game, he's using you to get off.
>>46059577
Thank you Mr. DM, would it also be allowed to say that the army acknowledges that its troops will be fucking so its worth it to supply said army with contraceptives in supply trains?
It would certainly help keep morale up, and prevent some problems with the locals if said army had to occupy a town.
>>46059563
If that's what you're comfortable with, then I wish you the best and hope you have a great game!
Just don't let him walk all over you because it fits his campaign - You're just as much of an important part to it, and have a say in the subjects that it does, or doesn't focus on.
>>46059563
Well, I'm glad you managed to resolve it in a way you and him are satisfied with.
Best of luck.
>>46059563
Bad news is that your GM has an impregnation fetish
good news is that you know about it now. Or... well, it can both be bad news.
Congratz?
>>46059627
>>Yeah, the party's working for a fantasy-communist that wants to destroy anything resembling a classist power structure
Hope you're willing to have the communist and his goons start purges to remove the bourgeois taint from the new system.
>>46059587
>report this obvious joke because it triggered me
Or how about the people who get triggered by it and post assblasted replies seriously should go back to their hugboxes instead of posting on 4chan.
>>46059418
there's quite a bit of a jump between child slaves and "hey, your character is going to get raped and mindbroken for the next few weeks"
>>46059627
>necessity for an ethical leader over a good one, or an ethical society that can't protect and provide for its people over an unethical one that can
All systems of leadership are vulnerable to poor leadership and corruption, its usually very contextual to the culture and regional resources.
Stick with the power structure that keeps everyone happiest and well fed.
Upward mobility and freedom of expression are always good things to include.
>>46059563
>not about getting him off
Yeah, sure...
>>46059694
I don't pull that because I like giving characters the opportunity to affect the outcome of scenarios.
Genuinely surprised /tg/ is managing to be this civil here. Good on ya m8s.
OP: just leave quietly. Find a DM who will respect you.
Polite sage.
>>46059745
>sage
>posts picture
>>46057747
I also want to rape you OP.
well we were all worried about op, then they go ahead with it anyway because "lol magic". Jesus this is why we don't put effort into much anymore.
>>46059563
>he was going to have my character impregnated down the line anyway
>anyway
GET OUT
NOW
>>46059653
This actually has me stumped because one side side... but then, magical realm.
>>46059563
>He told me he was going to have my character impregnated down the line anyway
>He wouldn't say more
>necessary to the campaign
I'm out
>>46059676
Oh yeah. Like I said, this whole campaign's about analyzing and criticizing different forms of government and seeing how terribly, terribly wrong or right they can go. Hence a benevolent dictatorship being contrasted with a poorly organized socialist movement. One clearly cares about the common person more, but the other is capable of providing for the common person in order to maintain stability, even if their heart ain't in it.
If the commie wins, I'm basically going to imply that it caused a total power breakdown that sends people back in to their tribal days(Something that was so recently abandoned they still have Hill Tribes in certain parts of the Kingdom, and even organized cities/lords have drastically different cultural ideals/physical appearances as a result).
Which leaves them open to a counterattack by the nation of Zombie Republicans directly to the west of them, who the humans have had a notoriously nasty past with.
Which will lead to the next campaign idea, supposing we get to it- Medieval Zombie Apocalypse survival.
>>46059765
inb4
"the bbeg summons a large magical penis"
>>46059758
Thoreau.
Polite sage.
>>46059563
>He told me he was going to have my character impregnated down the line anyway
Tell us about it when it happened. I'm genuinly interested.
>>46059776
Not really magical realm, its a practical move for an army with mixed gender units.
You don't want to lose troops to attrition and you can't realistically stop them from fucking
>>46059799
Considering that this whole thing is happening because op was leaving it's whatever the retarded gm wants anyway so probably.
>>46058319
/pol/ has great porn thread when the mods start sleeping it's a better /b/
>>46059563
my only suggestion is take advice from >>46059769 and run.burn your character sheet and wash your hands from this experience.
>>46059823
>>46059563
OP I am now morbidly facinated by your DM's story
Please let this happen to your character, just go along with whatever it is he wants and post back about it on /tg/ when it does
>>46059843
I don't think "How can white men even compete?" counts as great porn threads.
>>46059713
Well, King-man gets this thing similar to the Mandate of Heaven where once he's crowned, he's ageless. Can only be killed by violent means, or a sufficient number of people no longer viewing him as the king.
I'd generally agree. The political extremist who's hired my players' characters does not. It was kind of intentional that way, though, because a lot of my players are socialist/left-leaning folks, and highlighting the theme that no one government is truly perfect, and how even a really nice idea can be shite and a really evil idea can be nice, has already created some more open-minded political philosophers out of 'em.
>>46059867
/thread
>>46059789
Honestly the political thing is more interesting than the zombies. Have your republicans sit it out, present them as an alternative more stable but potentially oppressive form of government.
If they have to take part in the whole shitshow have them turn away or massacre refugees fleeing the chaos.
>>46059563
>but I don't think it's about him getting off.
Yep, you're definitely female and naïve.You'll realize soon.
>>46059843
>/pol/ has great porn thread
better than /tg/ does?
>>46059789
>>46059927
I know you're thinking 'but the humans have had a terrible past with the zombies'. But think what it means when THOSE fucking guys take the moral high ground.
>>46057747
>(druid elf, party healer)
You're asking for it.
>>46059965
>Entire threads dedicated to devout and submissive blue-eyed, white-skinned, blonde females
>compared to blacked™
Yeah, they aren't desu.
>>46059563
May be best to go home and find a new group.
>>46059927
They're different kinds of satisfaction. The zombie one is a lot more simple, but I think deals with more fundamental human struggles and decisions. Ideas like exchanging food for the lives of slaves.
And the Zombies are actually hyper-progressive, extremely efficient and incredibly capable politicians with a very thoughtful people who constantly contribute to the political landscape of their home country. The idea is that zombies don't need food or rest or water, and a lot of them can't have sex, so literally the only things left are higher order concepts to worry about. So every zombie, even the most simple, is left with nothing but his thoughts. Which means he's going to think a lot, and without most of the distractions and necessities (And, admittedly, pleasures) that most of humans have, he's going to be thinking less selfishly.
As a result, they're actually the model for an 'ideal' government- Where everybody has a working brain and nobody ever really needs anything.
>>46059965
Cute brown girls are haram and you know that.
>>46059563
>impregnated down the line anyway, and it was necessary to the campaign.
