How to make 40K nobledark?
>>45837174
>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Lovedagger
>>45837174
There's a chance. For every life saved, for every world taken the Golden Throne stirs just a little. Just a tiny fraction. But it does.
The Imperium has a chance.
>>45837206
>Lovedagger is an alternate universe version of the Warhammer franchise that was aimed at the stereotypical female geek instead of the male kind.
Is it safe to read?
>>45837525
I got less than halfway through. The heresy hurts my eyes
>>45837525
It's a hell of a lot more coherent than 40K. Only autists who take it too seriously would get offended.
>>45837563
Honestly, Lovedagger is basically what most GMs write up for Rogue Trader politics and Dark Heresy noble investigations.
>>45837525
That depends entirely on your /tg/ bullshit quotient.
>>45837525
I thought the concept was pretty fucking hilarious, but couldn't get farther than the introduction. Skimmed through the rest, I genuinely laughed at Slaanesh. Edgy grimdark Tau hurts though. Why would women not love regular Tau?
>>45837174
Give people common sense and the smallest ability to make the galaxy a better place.
Now you have Nobldark 40k
>>45837174
Emperor wasn't a dipshit and honestly gave a shit about people besides himself.
His regime was atheistic and he demanded that if any of his administrators had a faith they keep it quiet. He also demanded, after one particularly bad rebellion in his ranks during the Unification, that religious institutions stop employing men at arms.
A few years later he revised this to account for the obvious loophole.
He never tried to impose his religious views on the population.
He made honest alliances with some of the small xeno empires he encountered although this usually meant promicing to stay out of each other business. Mutual indifference pacts.
When he encountered his sons he didn't just throw them into jobs they were unsuited for. Guilliman never took command of a Legion and Ultramar remained an independent state. Strongly allied but independent. Same for Dorn.
Perty and Ferrus both went into the Mechanicus and enacted reforms and shit.
Vulkan became a preacher of ideology to the masses and used his influence to try and make as many worlds self-sufficient as possible.
Fulgrim went in the opposite direction and tried to make the Imperium maximum efficient and every world dependant on it's neighbours to automatically cripple any world that attempted to rebel. Also Fulgrim became somewhat of an eldaraboo. Vulkan nad Fulgrim hate each other.
Logar became High Lord of Religious Matters. His job is to keep track of all the major religions in the Imperium, ensure that no religious order becomes militant and detect Chaos cults.
Magnus is High Lord responsible for all matters relating to deamons, warp studies and training of high level psykers.
Emperor came to Angron's help during his rebellion. In gratitude Emperor got a top notch bodyguard. After 500 years of being prodded by the best apothecaries of the Imperium they managed to pull the nails out of his head safely.
>>45837174
why not make your own nobledark setting, instead of trying to take the grimdark setting and changing it arbitrarily
How do we make 40k noblebright?
>>45837829
I feel like Lion would work alongside Fulgrim in that respect, with perhaps more of a focus on the departmento munitorum considering how he rebuilt his legion.
>>45837829
Curze is put in a nice quiet wing of the palace and he spends his day studying books of law and the judiciary systems of the million worlds. He still has problems and probably always will but so long as you don't make loud noises or sudden movements he is safeish to be around. His written work was the foundation for the Adeptus Arbiters.
Alpharious and Omegon founded the Inquisition and Assassinarium respectively. Unless it was the other way round. Or they swap places sometimes. They vanished from the official records sometime in M33. Omegon (unless it was Alpharious) never referred to them as assassins, they are The Gentlemen of Last Resort.
Imperium is much more loosely ruled. The Imperium under direct rule of Terra is not much more than the Segmentum Solar. Much past that and you get to the allied and vassal empires; The Interex, The Squat Worlds, Ultramar, The Tau Empire and many others.
Many of the elder craftworlds have oaths of some sort with the Imperium. They sometimes help the Imperium and the Imperium sometimes helps them. So long as both sides only offer advice and suggestions and nobody tries to issue orders everything sort of works all though nobody really trusts those pointy eared fops/round eared mayflies.
To counteract this the threats levelled against the Imperium and associates is much greater.
'Nids started to turn up way sooner. Mid M37 was the big Ultramar vs Locust Horde war. Now the mean hive fleet isn't a distant threat obscuring the eastern horizon. It's already here and its worse than expected.
The Necrons started waking up in early M36 and by late M36 were carving out little empires of their own. Some of the more sane and less arseholish ones have some civil dealing s with the lesser races but many are either too insane not to exterminate everything or find it's too fun to stop killing.
>>45837938
Chaos has taken Cadia, Ulthwe, Orn's World and much space around the Eye of Terror. Their advance, viewed over the millennia, is slow but isn't going backwards. Only respite is when they start killing each other like circular firing squads. Then the Imperium gets a bit of breathing room for a time.
Gazkakul Mag Uruk Thraka isn't exceptional amongst warbosses anymore. There are many of his capabilities running around. And one dark night the ancient Eldrad had to sit the Emperor down and explain what a Brain Boy was, why they were so fucking dangerous, the sheer amount of effort the eldar had put into exterminating the last of them and the fact that some rangers just saw one sitting on Gazkakul's shoulder. Then he got drunk and didn't sober up for 2 months.
>>45837174
>How do we make steak Vegan?
The question isn't if it can be done, the question is how much of a faggot you are for even having the idea.
Also, people who actually use grimdark/noblebright/grimbright or whatever in a sentence should be lined up and shot, you sound ridiculous and everyone who shares your hobby would really prefer it if you would keep your ideas to yourselves.
Those fucking meme terms are just a really shitty way of trying to make something sound more advanced than it is.
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>>45837985
Edgy.
>>45837976
>brain boyz
i keep thinking that its a reference to star control 2
what the talking pet was originaly and that
>>45837985
>people who actually use grimdark/noblebright/grimbright or whatever in a sentence should be lined up and shot, you sound ridiculous and everyone who shares your hobby would really prefer it if you would keep your ideas to yourselves.
Speak for yourself. Makes for a decent shorthand for campaign expectations.
>>45837920
Lion I can see as being one of the high ups of the munitorum but not actually running it. You need at least some people skills to be a High Lord and that was not The Lion's strength. He would be on the next rung down doing the actual work.
He would also probably have broken his Legion down and spread it about in little brotherhoods through out the Imperial Army but ultimately all answerable to him.
Russ, in contrast, just runs a protection deal with half the aristocrats, 'Traders, exploratory magi and navigators in the Imperium. They are best bodyguards and unofficial hitmen. They are also somewhat of a two-edged sword as they will kill you if they think you are too disloyal to the Imperium.
The remaining Fenrisian Legion that actually still goes out like a crusader is descended from the original Terran marines who never quite saw eye to eye with Russ.
>>45837829
Sororitas came after the Heresy
>>45838200
Not this time round.
This time round he ended up with theocracies inside his borders during the Unification of Terra. They all played nicely and acted civil for a time then it all imploded and there was fighting in the streets and it almost went nuclear.
After order was restored the Emperor passed his decree.
Then he amended it.
Then he amended it again because what the fuck do battle servitors and eunuch soldiers count as?
Some time later the groups that come under the broad lable of the Sororitas were formed under Logar's watchful eye as strictly non-militant orders whose member receiver basic training as befits those in a hostile galaxy and given "ceremonial" weapons and armour.
Logar got nervous about that. It was very close to the line. Very, very close.
But by M41 the Imperium would be worse off without them as they run schools, orphanages, keep records, act as translators, become advisors to the noble houses and ensure the introduction of new genes into the noble lines to prevent inbreeding.
They also help prevent genetic monocultures forming, which is the big reason why the Emperor grants them such leeway.
>>45838340
more Bene Jesuit, less nuns with guns
>>45838340
>>45838160
>>45837938
>>45837829
What about Sanguinius and Horus?
>>45837976
How is there chaos if lorgar remained loyal?
>>45837829
>Emperor came to Angron's help during his rebellion
He did tho, Angron just said "no".
This is of course assuming that you're going by Index Astartes rather than HH.
>>45837829
>Logar became High Lord of Religious Matters. His job is to keep track of all the major religions in the Imperium, ensure that no religious order becomes militant and detect Chaos cults.
Religions were how heresy and chaos wormed its way into things. That's why he made it illegal in the first place, look at the word bearers, and how many human worlds were taken into inadvertent chaos worhsip.
>He made honest alliances with some of the small xeno empires he encountered although this usually meant promicing to stay out of each other business. Mutual indifference pacts.
98% of xenos were dicks.
>>45837525
Arguably better than Warhammer.
>>45837985
spare us your autistic spergrage
>>45837174
1. Retcon that most aliens the Imperium was chill with didn't up and fuck them over. Anti-xenos mentalities will be minimalizes since this version of the setting shows cooperation with aliens doesn't lead to wholesale suffering and betrayal.
2. Make the Emperor try to warn people about Chaos, but his attempts to thwart the oncoming of Chaos fail and a shitload of marines turn traitor anyway. People has a measured understanding of the Ruinous Powers by 40k now and see them as extradimensional aliens instead of gods, but occasionally still tempt people given the promise of power. Big E still falls, but instead of a religion dedicated to him forming around his corpse, a secular government forms and tries to keep the peace.
There you go. 40k NobleDark. The alliance of man and aliens willing to work with man (eldar, farsight enclave mostly) fighting against orwellian nightmare realms, chaos monstrosities and omnicidal freaks (everyone else). Life is hard but if they can persevere they might be able to make the galaxy a better place.
>>45839811
Horus got stabbed with magic sword. Rather than trust a bunch of bird shit snorting, mud hut dwelling druids to patch up a post-human superman they dump him in a stasis casket and set sail for Terra.
Emperor gets the top Adepts of the Biologicus to have a look at him. Horus spends next 5 years on Terra recovering and learning more about running an Empire rather than just claiming one.
He eventually returned to the frontlines and after the breakup of the Legions is the Chapter Master of the Luna Wolves and the unifying voice keeping his descendant chapters on the same page.
Sangy plays a similar role with his Legion spawn. Difference is that he and his spawn incorporate Imperial Guard elements into their Chapters. Except for the branches of the family that are too insane.
>>45839942
Erebus is the new Dark Prophet of Chaos, blessed of the 4.
>>45840212
No offense But I would have picked Eliphas and made Erebus and Kor Phaeron daemon princes.
>>45840097
I'm pretty sure not telling the Primarchs how to spot and avoid the most corrupting thing in the galaxy was a big contributing factor.
Sticking your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes and going la la la la isn't a sensible reaction to Chaos.
>>45840212
Wouldn't the red thirst be something the emperor would have known if that was the case?
He would certainly look for some type of cure.
And there is also the case of the human webway for this scenario of yours to work the Emperor pet project must fail.
>>45837174
So brighthammer (remember it only turned noblebright for humans).
>>45837174
What is nobledark?
>>45837703
I've never met a woman who found an authoritarian/communist faction relatable or likable. Whereas I know plenty of guys who are totall enamored with Brave New World type societies where everything has it's place.
>>45837525
>>45840623
Assuming that it even had a possible cure. It was partially warp based and powered by Khorne.
Webway gate exploded into deamons. This time the Emperor wasn't stupid enough to conduct insane experiments in his wine cellar. This time he did it on Ganymede.
Ganymede is still quarantined.
>>45840623
He probably knew about and just didn't give a shit.
Just like the Thousands Sons mutation running rampant and he took a blind eye cause he's busy.
>>45840212
Feel like hours wouldn't have split up his legion like that. Shadow legion perhaps?
>>45841569
Just like the Dark Angels.
>>45837174
The Inquisition doesn't routinely purge huge numbers of *possible* witnesses "just to be safe," for starters.
>>45840949
Shut up, Plaguelord Gottfried.
>>45837861
Warhammer Highschool 40k.
>>45837563
I do like their mechanicum, though. It makes more sense and is more focused, by way of being built around a single, nearly all-powerful technology.
>>45841810
And brighthammer also
>>45837174
Ultramarines run the Imperium.
Aren't the salamanders and lamenter's nobledark?
>>45842112
For every one of them there are at least half a dozen Marines Malevolents or Iron Hands.
>>45837206
>...she killed herself with the very same, LOVEDAGGER.
I chortled, it's cheesy but that's what makes it funny. I was expecting gender bent 40k with female primarchs and the like.
>>45837216
A chance at what?
It basically is from the in universe perspective of most space marines, commissars, imperial commanders, inquisitors, etc. They do hard violent noble things that keep back the darkness. Its not like they have enough knowledge of all the threats to the imperium to realize they're doomed.
Craftworld eldar too. Theirs might be more stoic than noble though.
