A space marine chapter is devastated and only one marine survives. Does he join another chapter or what?
>>45670357
No.
Different geneseed. Different culture.
The Deathwatch is the best option.
Most likely he either joins the Deathwatch permanently as a Black Shield or goes solo on a penitent crusade for the rest of his life.
>>45670357
As others have said, he may join the Deathwatch, or it's possible he might join up with a close Successor Chapter as a specialist of some sort (A Crimson Fist would join up with the Imperial Fists) though he would likely retain much of his original iconography and armor.
You can also do what I did and, if the Space Marine in question is saved from death by an Inquisitor, and the Inquisitor in question offers you vengeance on who killed your brothers, you can become a quasi-legal Inquisitorial Space Marine who gets all the good shit the Inquisition provides while still getting to be a Space Marine and punch heretics in the throat.He actually is extremely conflicted about his decision to join up with the Inquisitor. He doesn't feel like being an Interrogator is beneath him, and truly believes that he's helping people and serving the Imperium, but being a one-man hit squad and wearing the Inquisitorial Rosette over his chapter colors never quite settles with him. He also gets treated awkwardly by other Marines, even those of his related Chapters, who don't know how to treat him - some pity him, some respect him, some hate him, all because he's not doing what a normal Space Marine should. It's getting to his head and he's throwing himself into combat more and more recklessly, and the Inquisitor is beginning to realize that he ultimately can't truly control his Astartes asset
> implying le ebin spess marine book gets devastated in the first place
>>45670777
But space Marines do inquisitors work all the time. There are even some chapters dedicated exclusively to it,.not just death watch
>>45670950
Not directly submitting to one as Acolytes, though, and being essentially relegated to being a loner their whole lives because all of their friends are dead.
Most Chapters (barring Deathwatch) are still independent Chapters that have their own traditions and decision-making authority, and are simply very friendly with specific Inquisitors instead of being directly employed by them. They still are Space Marines, and do Space Marine shit like conquer planets and break sieges - but not him. He's pretty much just an Acolyte (with an extremely long leash and incredible resources at his disposal, but the fact remains) and he doesn't have a home to go back to. He won't be able to drop from orbit and burst out of a drop pod and slaughter the foe with bolt pistol and chainsword for the Chapter, because the Chapter doesn't exist anymore.
Being the Sole Survivor really fucks with your mind, man.
>>45670357
He might join one of the Chapter's he's descended from, should they be suitably similar in creed.
If they still have a significant cache of Gene-Seed from their Chapter, they might attempt to slowly rekindle their Chapter, with him as Chapter Master.
Otherwise, joining the Deathwatch on a permanent basis, or working alongside the Inquisition would likely be his best choice.
Or (depending on how much of his Chapter's death was fault), he might just go on a one-Marine crusade into the Galaxy, hoping to kill as many enemies of the Imperium as he could before he dies, in pennance for failing the Emperor.
>>45670357
When the Celestial Lions lost all their apothecaries some Black Templars helped them out. There was more than one of them but still
>>45670357
He gets another chapter to join him
t. Fists Exemplar
>>45670950
It's more of uh "hey uh, guys, could you maybe purge the heretic?" not being a specific inquisitor's asset.
Meh. Gonna put in a vote for progenitor adoption. Keeping tabs on your cousins means being ready to go to them - or to bring them back when necessary.
Professional soldiers - genhanced cyborg murder machines especially - would probably work best in a squad, and a Last Survivor type would carry a lot of salty vet/ rabbit's foot status with the line troops in any other outfit. Pretty sure marine orgs - amongst others - would always be on the look-out for giant, fearless murdertanks with loadsa training to fill their ranks. They'd be watching distant conflicts intently in hopes of acquiring the talents of personnel of this exact description.
Shit, I know I would.
>>45670357
If he had any gumption he would put on the big boy hat, say he's the chapter master and demand to both the progenitor and other successor chapters that the debt his fallen comrades are owed be repaid by replenishing the chapter back to full strength. Maybe throw in a line about keeping the heating going by dumping the last few suits of TDA into the empty fortress monastery's furnace while he awaits the answer.
>>45670357
Depends.
If the chapter was prominent and prestigious and with good relations with the Mechanicum, they might used that chapters stored geenseed to rebuild it.
Or the survivor might be taken by other chapters or if is he deemed badass enough, Deathwatch.
>>45670777
>currently playing Dark Heresy right now
Ohh man, I'd love to play that if it didn't fuck up the whole party balance.
>>45671052
Are the fuckers still alive?
Or the Inquisitors that fucked them over crazy enough to go for the Templars?
>>45671362
The orks only sniped their apothecaries, it's a big deal and did mean they lost a lot of geneseed, but it's a recoverable loss.
This actually happens in pic relatedHe's gonna reform the Imperial Fists with a Successor Chapter providing the new recruits.
>>45670357
I was going to make my own topic when I saw this. Posting here because this is very related.
I run a Rogue Trader game. The party is pretty good, the leader/technically-the-RT isn't heretical in the slightest. In fact, she used to be an Argent Shroud Sister (getting the Writ forced her to leave the order).
Here's the thing. On the last big adventure last month (only have time for a single, long monthy game) they fought through a Dark Eldar attack group to free slaves, and found a tragic thing. A lone, dying Space Marine. His dark gold armor rent and torn, heart-and-blood drop icon splattered with his own. He and his had come to rescue these same slaves, but were too few, and were eventually overwhelmed, though they did massive damage to their enemies.
He was a Lamenter. Specifically, he told us, the /last living/ Lamenter. He begged, BEGGED them to take a sealed cannister to safety, as it contained the last dozen progrnoid glands the Apothecary had managed to save before perishing. He the breathed his last.
The party and rescued slaves gathered the seventeen fallen Marines and their gear and banner, loaded them all on the shuttle, and are now making their way to Baal.
The game isn't for another two weeks but I'm stuck trying to think of the Blood Angels reaction when they arrive. ideas?
>>45671444
If you're feeling ballsy you could have Baal be a completely dried up husk and completely devoid of life after the tyranids destroyed it.
>>45671380
I guess though the Lions might stick with the templars for a while longer. Since by the time they meet them they already knew someone wants them dead.
>>45671444
Taking it to the Blood Angels is the best idea.
They wouldn't pass up the chance of having a geenseeds of Sanguinus progeny that is seemingly immune or at the very least resistant to the Red Thirst and Black Rage.
You might even have a really powerful chapter as an ally by the end of it.
>>45671478
I have them as bitterly holding out. The only reinforcements that have shown up for them thus far is a single Salamander battle barge packed to the rafters with Astartes, a pair of Imperial Navy Cobra destroyers, and a single regiment of probably the ballsiest Guardsmen to ever grace the Elysian Drop Troopers (which contains the Only War party I used to play in.)
And now a Soritas/Rogue Trader in a fully battle ready Mars class Battlecruiser are about to crash the party.
>>45671654
One Idea I have germinating is that discovering the Lamerters took truly devastating casualties fighting another hive fleet will make the Blood Angels evern more furious in fighting the ones they're dealing with,
>>45670357
He can join any chapter from his parent legion, the crimson fists were given the option to join the imperial fists after the Devastation of their chapter, the other option would be the death watch black shields.
Cover his armour in as much bling as he can from the chapter armoury. Really just go all out, no restraints, gaudy as all fuck.
Then kick down the door to whichever chapter was the first founding progenitor of his, and gloat "Hey asswipes, guess who just became a Chapter Master?"
Then collapse weeping in the corner.
>>45671425
Is that the reason why Iron Fist geneseed is fucked up like no other loyalists?
They're missing two primary organs, for the Emperor's sake.
>>45671444
Having read all the black library books on the blood angels and being a blood angels player myself, I can tell you that the Blood Angels would likely greet them as Heroes, tho the tone of proceedings would be quite dour given the nature of the event. From what few mentions of the lamenters are made in the books, the BA regard them highly and mourn their suffering as a chapter, considering them "lost" and beyond recovery. The Geneseed would likely be secreted away to the north pole to be studied by the chapter's apothocarian, and the dead entombed and enshrined with great honor, While Dante himself would likely make some gesture of appreciation to the individuals who returned the lost to their parent chapter. He is a fan of big, dramatic gestures like that. Him or Mephiston, who deals with a lot of the day to day business of the chapter, when Dante is to tied up elsewhere. FYI Mephiston is always written as a very down to earth, goodguygreg who just so happens to be a badass psyker, while Dante is written as more of an aloof, introverted father figure.
>>45670357
Is is possible, with the aid of another chapters Apothecarium, to re-create the chapter from his gene-seed, or will only work once?
>>45671049
or that last option: Turn Renegade
>>45671425
>>45672597
Ultramarines, Dark Angels and Grey Knights are the only chapters with all 19 geneseed organs still intact. Imperial Fists missing 2 organs isn't that unusual.
>>45671362
>>45671485
The Lions were given a Templar battle cruiser as a gift, but they are very much still alive and rebuilding their forces from a surviving group of about ten.
>>45674714
Theoretically there should be a cache of geneseed for his chapter on Mars. All chapters tithe a certain amount of geneseed so they can be rebuilt after a massacre.
If he is a real man, he rebuilds his chapter as the commander. Then purges the heresy that laid waste to his chapter, vengeance styles.
>>45671027
Would he be...a Chapter of One?
>>45674747
Alright then, which implants are Iron Hands and White Scars missing? I'll wait.
>>45674977
That doesn't mean that chapters can actually get permission to use it. I've yet to hear of a chapter that was successful in getting it back. AdMech tends to be very possessive about things that end up on Mars. Regardless of circumstances.
>>45674977
There's a higher chance of the AdMech creating a cursed founding than of a chapter actually getting back the geneseed they sent
>>45672597
At the time of that book imperial fists had the sus an organ working
I think the Templars did as well - so maybe a retcon to say the losses happened later because it was dumb to say that the fists had always lost those 2 organs but then it's dumb to say all their successors lost it
>>45670357
He turns to chaos
Every
Single
Time
>>45675763
But the Fists Exemplar, who had been recruiting from a high radiation world, may have already lost it.
>>45670357
I'm liking the idea of a sole survivor acting as the new Chapter Master whilst the chapter is rebuilt. He would be the father figure to the first scouts. Guiding them and teaching them as they learn the craft of the Space Marine. Later as the chapter grows, he would continue to take a first hand role in the scouts training. In time, the entire chapter would revere him as their teacher, father and leader. This would carry on as a chapter tradition, the Chapter Master would always be responsible for the scouts training.
>>45671380
>The "orks" only sniped their apothecaries
FTFY
>>45671380
Actually it was their entire command staff as well. Their apothecaries, chaplains, librarians, captains, everyone. The ranking marine left afterwards was a squad sergeant.
>>45670357
He goes either Deathwatch or back to his parent chapter. If he's given enough time he can produce enough geneseed for his chapter's rebirth.
If the marines die what happens to all their chapter serfs, ships, relics, and everything that is salvageable after the battle/war? Do they follow them to Deathwatch? Does the parent chapter get them?
>>45674747
>>45675693
I also want to point out that Night Lords are supposed to be pretty pure, the ones that are just renegades anyways.
>>45670357
Are Marines Errant a thing?
I'd love to run a non DeathWatch campaign with a party of Marines wandering around the Sector just doing the Emprah's work without any commanding officers orders, just the Glory of it.
>>45676548
Serfs I could see either being returned to the society they came from or a use possibly being found for them elsewhere with other Chapters or within the Imperium.
Ships and relics I could see either being returned to the parent Chapter and/or the Mechanicus trying to get their hands on them.
I think this is unexplored territory because the the Chapters that have been wiped out usually have their home planet/fleet base wiped out/taken over alongside the actual Marines.
>>45674726
Hell yeah.
>>45679102
>lechaosface.jpeg
;^3
>>45676548
I imagine a single space marine could begin the slow process of rebuilding the chapter. Assuming he isnt like the only person affiliated left he would have an army of serfs and servitors that could maintain all their assets for the time being. However even if he was an apothecary he would need some assistance to rebuild the chapter.
If they have close ties, marines could be loaned from other chapters to help cover the essential parts of finding/training new recruits. If not he could conceivably loan out or trade chapter relics for services. I imagine most would borrow some Termy armour or whatever and help form a skeleton chapter.
Or a more cynical chapter would demand a payment of Power Fists in return for 200 space marine scouts etc...
>>45675693
The ones that produce lore and unique characters
>>45674960
If I'm not mistaken:
After Grimaldus takes Dubaku and goes "Nigga you gunna prove a son of Dorn ain't a shit." and then Helbracht makes him take the oath of Chapter Master and gives him swag artiface armor, a strike cruiser and, if I'm not mistaken, Grimaldus' apprentince and few brothers to help rebuild the Lions.
>>45679647
Kekkers
