>GW gives the green light for the multi million dollar movie for Horus Heresy
>Auditions for the God Emperor begin almost immediately
>This guy turns up on day one
What do?
>>44882755
Not middle eastern enough
>>44882755
Make him Sanguinius
>>44882755
>Niggers
>God Emperor Of Mankind
>WE WUZ KINGZZ N SHIEEEET
>>44882755
I call him back when I start auditioning for Vulcan.
>>44882912
Probably this.
In Canon, the emperor has too light skin for him to accurately portray the role.
I'm sorry, are you trying to trigger us like /v/?
>You'll be playing a big dude in golden armor, just like in Thor!
>>44882755
Hire him. As an Imperial Guardsmen.
If he wasn't black he'd be perfect from his demeanor and charisma. I'm not sure who would be best to actually pull it off.
>>44882985
Younger Liam Neeson maybe
>>44882755
"I'm sorry we've already given the part to Tom Hanks."
>>44882955
Speaking of Thor, the dude who played him may work for Russ.
>>44882755
You are Vulkan.He would have made such a good Bond why are ppl stupid???
>>44883150
Maybe too old, but I always pictured Russel Crowe for that.
>>44883212
Because bond was always a white British spy, now fuck off back to leddit.
>>44883212
>>44883222
>Russel Crowe
I'd say he would make a good Dorn
>>44883247
To say it doesn't alter the character in any way would be ignorant, but to pretend it's some insurmountable barrier is wrong I think.
>>44883247
There's nothing in the cannon that specifically says that's he's white. I don't disagree that he should almost infallibly be white but Idris Elba's acting range and ability is perfect for Bond. I just think he would have done a good job
i give the guy a shot because he isn't a faggot like op
Wasn't the God Emperor a Turk? Blacks are close enough.
>>44882755
>Cast him
>John Hurt is Malcador, puts no effort in and still steals every scene
>Tom Hardy somehow knows that Horus is supposed to have an accent and does the part for free. The eventual performance sounds like a Glaswegian French man doing an impression of Matthew McConaughey
>Benedict Cumberbatch plays cold and calculating Lorgar
>Martin Freeman plays Erebus, his long-suffering moral compass
>Sean Penn plays Leman Russ in penance for the bad thing he did
>Michelle Rodrigez plays Lion El'Johnson
>Eddie Redmayne plays the Phalanx
>Bret Ratner directs
"Sorry, we already gave the role to Jon Goodman."
>>44883482
I think he was born in Anatolia but that might just be my brain fucking with me.
>>44883316
It's a societal double standard, black actors can be white characters but white actors can't be black characters because suddenly that's racism.
>>44883399
Except for the books describe him as looking like Hoagy Carmichael.
>>44883493
Have Cumberbatch play Gillman, they're both faggots.
>>44883506
Yes you are correct. Anatolia around 1000 BCE I thought but my year maybe off
>>44883518
>/pol/
You will fit there.
Stallone with a shaved head would be perfect for Lorgar
>>44883518
Aha but the book James Bond is a completely different character from the film one, both his personality and his role in MI6, so that doesn't matter.
>>44882755
Nah, he would made way better Jaghatai Khan.
>>44882755
Sorry, no Catachan Devils yet, wait one millenia.
>>44883559
>No counter point
Okay m8
>>44883574
Then you can't say that in the cannon that nothing says he's white since he's only been white in the films and those you have now said are separate.
>>44883633
That is the point you dipshit. You are spewing /pol/ nonsense unrelated to the topic.
>>44883399
>James Bond is and always should be portrayed by a white Brit
>Idris Elba could pull off a suave and dashing secret agent character in the vein of James Bond
Both of these statements are true.
I understand where people are coming from when they say that Idris Elba could pull off Bond. However, if you want to be truly progressive and empower minority actors, how about giving them their own characters and IPs, instead of riding the coattails of whites and using accusations of racism as a cheap shield against well-deserved criticism?
Same goes for shit like the new Ghostbusters.
If Idris wants to be in the movie he can be Vulkan. We already have the perfect emperor.
>>44883633
Just because he's only been white doesn't mean he has to be. There's no explicit statement or reason in the films that he's always white. Moneypenny was white and now she's black. Same principle. It's not explicit. If it was then that would be a different matter, but there is literally no reason bond has always been white in films other than the best choices for the character were white actors. Idris Elba would do a very good Bond based on his past roles and abilities therefore there is no reasonable argument to exclude him from portraying the film version of James Bond as he is the current best choice
>>44883482
>>44883541
Most of middle east were populated mostly by black people until relatively recently, especially in higher classes.
>>44883674
Whats the bullshit? That a character who has always been white since the 60's is suddenly cast as a black man because reasons. Meanwhile you've got gods of egypt casting white people as egyptian gods which is just as idiotic, but one of these is okay and one isn't.
>>44883749
>but there is literally no reason bond has always been white in films other than the best choices for the character were white actors
And you know, racism.
>>44883493
I'd rather have Chiwetel Ejiofor as Bond. I feel Idris Elba would be to close to Craig.
>>44882755
Not Turkish enough.
>>44883518
In the books the USSR still exists. All the bonds SO FAR have been white. There was a time when all the bonds SO FAR had been Sean Connery.
I'm not saying give him to role BECAUSE he's back but the guy's a talented actor, talented actors should get parts.
>>44883702 makes a damn fine point but the industry in question may not like anything that depends upon new franchises with minority leads. That said his suggestion absolutely SHOULD be recognised.
OP: Cast him as a higher up general in the Imperial Army. The one who gets Bisected by Angron in the early novels before I just gave the fuck up on them. Flesh the character out in a few more scenes and when it comes time for his evisceration watch viewer perception of Angron drop right the fuck down to where it should be.
>>44883764
The topic is not whatever or not Bond should be a PoC but if idris Elba would make a good Emperor. Which he would.
>>44883722
>Why Horus?! Why?!!
>You are tearing me apart, Horus!!!!
100/10
>>44883674
It's sad that we can't even mention a black guy without a memester popping up to push the envelope with his subversive brand of humor. Or worse yet, one of the sad fuckers who has mistaken shitposting for a genuine serge of support for his nutty ideas.
>>44883850
Ha ha ha what a story Magnus.
>>44883750
>People unironically believe that depiction
>>44883819
I won't deny he's a talented actor, so give him is own spy movie, instead of just making bond black.
>>44883826
>No response to the argument
K mate
>>44883750
>tumblr pic
dropped
>>44882755
>Horus Heresy
>viable as anything live-action
If he's voice-acting an animated character, fine. If he's playing the part, then no. He just looks too different to the character.
>>44883750
Yeah no... The Romans utterly defeated them in the end, burned Carthage to the ground and then salted that ground.
>>44883722
I fully support this endeavor
>>44882755
So does this imply GW wants a 2 hour movie of the very end Horus Heresy on screen ignoring everything from building how and why the characters are doing what they are doing? Because if they don't want a two hour skirmish between the traitor legions and loyalists where named characters appear only once with a title drop and then either get killed or kill somebody they should invest in an animated series or a mini-series to at least explain everything from Horus starting to fall to Magnus ruining everything until the emperor's inevitable almost-death.
>>44884068
Nah, it will be allright. You can just drop expositon dumps and time skips like in Dune.
>>44884124
So basically semi-animated opening with cave-painting-esque drawings vaguely explaining the origin story and then dropping into the very start of the action?
>>44883674
>somebody implies the notion that it's possible to be racist against white people
>kneejerk accusations of "wah wah /pol/"
Faggot regressive detected.
>>44883749
>Just because he's only been white doesn't mean he has to be.
Yes it does. People don't randomly change the color of their skin overnight.
>There's no explicit statement or reason in the films that he's always white.
Except the fact that he has always been a white guy.
>Moneypenny was white and now she's black. Same principle.
What, stupid bullshit for the sake of an incredibly shallow form of "diversity"?
>but there is literally no reason bond has always been white in films other than the best choices for the character were white actors.
Except for the fact he was portrayed as white in the novels the films are based on
>Idris Elba would do a very good Bond
Idris Elba cannot be James Bond, in the same way Tom Cruise cannot be Martin Luther King. There is no doubt in my mind of Idris Elba's talent; he's one of my favourite actors. But he's not white, so he can't realistically play a white guy because it would require far too much suspension of disbelief to be feasible.
This is a very simple concept to understand, and the fact you can't understand it really makes me want to insult the absolute shit out of you, because you're acting like a fucking idiot, or a racist.
As far as the actual question is concerned, 40kids is fucking shit.
>>44883922
>>44884013
What did ancient North Africans look like anyway, Phoenicians? It also strikes me that I can't think what Phoenicians look like.
>>44883286
> Born far from Terra in '64
> A hot-headed primarch named Rogal Dorn
>>44883749
>>Moneypenny was white and now she's black. Same principle.
Not really. 'Moneypenny' is a job title. Black Moneypenny is a new character who took over the job, and inherited the title. Same as John Cleese taking over the role of Q from Desmond Llewelyn.
Now, it's entirely possible for the role of 007, the job, to change hands, especially now there's more continuity between films, but that would require James Bond to vacate the post.
James Bond is white. 007 doesn't necessarily have to be.
But let's face it, to most people they're called Bond movies, not 007 movies.
>>44884269
North Africa was a mishmash of Helenic, Latino (in the old sense which included almost all Mediterranean people from Europe's side), a little Black, Persian and everything else that had come and gone from that area. And Phoenicians were much akin to Greeks, so technically Latin.
>>44884269
Phoenicians were not from north africa, they were from the levant, so imagine syrians.
>>44884374
>Phoenicians were not from north africa
Well yes but wasn't Carthage originally a Phoenician colony?
>>44884452
>Well yes but wasn't Carthage originally a Phoenician colony?
It was pretty much all the time a phoenician trade city, thats why its inhabitants mostly looked like phoenicians, I don't understand the "but" here?
Well I guess at least we can all agree that the ancient egyptians were significantly darker than the egyptians of today.
>>44884478
I thought you were saying that they had nothing to do with the Carthaginians but I was just reading your post wrong.
>>44884499
Not significantly so, no.
>>44882936
He played The Whitest God in Marvel's MCU and is slated as the next Scottish James Bond.
>>44884352
I was under the impression that both 007 AND James Bond were code names according to recent movies. Not tied to a given person.
>>44883722
OP here. Who is that, that's an eerie accurate look for the Emperor.
While Vulcan seems obvious, Idris could play a pretty decent Horus.
>>44883247
isn't the agent 007 always suppose to be a different guy, but he just changes his name to James Bond like all other 007s.
I mean, how can the guy change appearance every decade or so, but when the feature that changes is skin color, it suddenly makes no sense?
We get it, it's cool to be edgy and racist in high school. It's just dumb in adult land.
>>44884561
Not this shit again...
>>44884572
It has to be a codename sine he uses it in the field.
>>44884572
Recent movies actually assert it is not a code name. And it never was if you read the books.
>>44884616
Why would a spy use the same fake name in every mission? Would that defeat the entire purpose.
>>44884614
Aren't there both really dark and really light Pharaohs because of Nubians and Greeks?
>>44884614
Well they were basically a population of mulattos that culturally favoured light skin over darker skin, given they looked down on the dark skinned nubians.
I don't know what you expect how dark skinned they should be, or how light skinned you belief modern egyptians are.
>>44882755
Say.
"Sorry we are looking for a Native American with a Brummie accent."
>>44884671
Does this look like a whire person to you?
>>44882755
Well the Emperor could take the appearance of whatever the fuck he wanted, although he was born an Anatolian.
However I'd be completely down with Idris Elba playing the Emperor for his voice. Unlike a lot of actors, he sounds the part. Only actors I'd rate above him is Christopher Lee (dead) and uhhhh.
Honestly I don't really know of many actors who have a kingly, powerful voice who are still alive. Help me out /tg/.
>>44884754
There were nubian pharaos for a time, I don't know why you think this is representive of the egyptian population at any point in time.
Especially given they were portrayed far lighter skinned in all depictions depciting non-nubian pharoas and people, and explicitly called the nubians dark-skinned by comparison to themselves.
>>44884671
>mulattos
>>>/pol/
You belong there.
>>44883819
>Cast him as a higher up general in the Imperial Army. The one who gets Bisected by Angron in the early novels
Hang on, what book is this? I suppose it sounds like something he'd do, I can't see the world eaters being a popular legion to fight alongside if you're a squishy mortal.
>>44884754
Looks like a statue to me.
>>44884611
In the books he's the same person. In the movies, actors unsurprisingly age, but they play the same core character. Suave British spy who smokes and drinks.
>>44884754
By that logic all americans are black because they're ruler is?
>>44884640
Why would a spy use his actual name each mission? Wouldn't that defeat the entire purpose?
>>44883493
>Michelle Rodrigez
OH NO YOU DIDN'T
Butthurt Night Lord confirmed. Wanna get rekt again son?
>>44884611
So Albus Dumbledore was 2 different characters? No, actors retired, decided not to reprise the role, or otherwise left the producers looking for someone else to play the character.
>>44884754
You might want to look up some egyptian history my friend.
>>44884754
In case this isn't bait, that means fucking nothing.
By your logic, Greeks weren't white because of these pictures on their stuff.
>>44884614
>make claim
>people contradict that claim
>complain that a discussion is taking place
>>44883750
>and their oppression
>>44882755
I wouldn't insult him by casting him as such a horrible, shitty character.
>>44884754
Does this look like a whire person to you?
>>44884754
The right is how the egyptians depicted themselves and the guy who is third on the right how they saw nubians (black people), see the difference?
>>44885012
With any luck, future historians will have doubts about them being white.
Post yfw you learned he's been cast as Roland in the upcoming Dark Tower film.
>>44884958
>>44885012
I believe he's referring to the facial features, not the color of the statue.
>>44884754
to be fair anon
>>44884907
>Dark Angels fan objects to a girl being involved
Big surprise there.
>>44885091
fucking shit really
>This fucking thread.
How about you all fuck off back to /pol/? This discussion has nothing to do with traditional games.
>>44885094
I have no doubt the statue depicts a negroid pharao, he's just wrong in assuming this was the average appearance of a egyptian pharao or indicated anything about what the population at large looked like.
>>44885094
Yes, there are various combinations of facial features among white people. Frankly, the statue looks like a white guy with a blackface to me.
>>44885102
can't probe the robe
>>44885113
Yeah. IMDB has gone apeshit.
>>44882755
I report the thread for being /tv/ meme garbage.
>>44883750
I try not to respond to these posts but your misinformation has to be stopped.
Hannibal was a Phoenician, and Phoenicians were not negroids or dark-skinned. This isn;t the first time I have had to say this and it probably won't be the last time.
>>44885316
So how about you stop saying it? Contrary what your idol said about the matter, a lie said thousand times WON'T become a truth. And we don't say 'negroid' anymore, it's 2016 for fucks sake.
>>44885091
Well if he isn't going to look like Clint Eastwood they might as well cast a black guy. McConaughey and Bale is basically the only stars who looks the part, and both turned it down.
It's going to suck anyway because they're going overboard with the franchise stuff.
>>44885364
>And we don't say 'negroid' anymore
Actually forensic analysts and everyone having to classify human skeletons still use the term.
>>44885364
Hey man, I hear you're an expert. Can you remind us all what the current year is?
>>44885102
Astartes have no need for sexual relations. Besides, ripping apart Xenos with a chainsword is a far more pleasurable experience.
>>44884566
>next Scottish James Bond
no he isn't. he got snubbed for the role
>>44885539
>ripping apart Xenos with a chainsword
It's an euphemism, isn't it?
>>44885471
Scott Eastwood would the absolute best casting choice for the role. All you need to do is pepper him with a bit of make up to make him look older/wiser.
Anyway, changing the race of the character is foolish because 1) It's disingenuous for the sake of progress race politics, 2) Roland's blue preternatural eyes are mentioned a lot, and 3) it completely undermines the entire racial relationship between Detta and Roland in The Drawing of the Three.
>>44885623
>Roland's blue preternatural eyes are mentioned a lot
You know that contact lenses exist, right?
>>44885102
Hey, you try spending 10,000 years working on making the prettiest dress so you can feel good about yourself, and then have an actual girl come into the picture.
More seriously, none of the primarchs should be female. That's just ridiculous, and it'll cause more problems than it's worth.
>>44885665
Not in Mid-World, bro.
>>44885491
Aren't they the same guy who decided that Michael Brown was attacking the cops? Yeah, they are definitely ones we should listen to regarding racial politics.
>>44885684
They exist in the real world. Just made the actor wear them.
>>44885750
How many black people do you know with blue eyes? Life ain't a goddamn Riddick movie.
This is why Idris, as great of an actor as he is, is not suited to play Roland.
>>44885669
Are we talking Primarchs being female or being played by one? Because given how they aren't even really humans and are supposed to be somehow "supernatural beautiful" i'm kind of ok with let's Sanguinius being played by a chick.
>>44885793
Just get Orlando Bloom to dress up like Legolas again and staple on some wings.
>They're taking the Legions to Isstvan!
>>44882755
I'd give it to him as it'd mean I already have a cast better than a 40K movie rightfully should.
>>44882755
Idris Elba? Shit Yeah. Loved him in The Wire.
>>44883541
>about 1000 BCE
Where in Anatolia do they say, because Armenian, Syrian-ish or even Greek would be what he was.
>>44883518
The bond books stopped long before the great politics mess up, and ate barely followed as it is.
>>44885917
Lexicanum says the 8th millenium BCE.
>>44885576
No. Astartes most likely get an actual sexual-like high from killing because their brains are re-programmed. Killing in the Emperor's name floods them with dopamine, not to mention the cocktail of chemicals in their armor, which includes Space PCP.
>>44884352
So what's your opinion of Craig? Bond has always been brunette, too.
>>44886332
There actually was buzz about a "blonde Bond" when he was announced. I agree, I'd prefer a dark haired white Brit for Bond, but there is an ocean of difference between a blonde white Bond and an African Bond. "
