So a few million of these land in the milky way galaxy, 40th Millennium, presumably able to keep their numbers up in one manner or another
How do they fair?
IS it only Reavers or are there other variants
>>44588880
Not as well as a million of pic related.
>>44590307
Fair enough, but they operated on a different scale
>>44588880
Only a few million?
>>44590423
100 million spread out over the entire imperium or a few pockets of imperial space
Can they even breed? Or would they have to clone?
>>44591432
hard to say, they never are shown to have females or any of the zerg's asexual breeding, they seem to depend on artificial facilities, but that may just be to shore their numbers up in a timely manner
>>44588880
Whatever this is - drown them in bodies.
>>44593923
It's the Protoss-Zerg Hybrid from StarCraft. The Protoss are a technically advanced race with equipment almost seeming like magic. While the Nids came first, the Nids were also influenced by the Zerg later on. They're supposed to be so opposite that their DNA can't be put together but someone found a way.
>>44595831
So, does that mean... Eldar and Tyranids can breed?
>>44595909
and that's how Zoanthropes are made
>>44588880
They get fucked to hell and back.
Hybrids are powerful in Starcraft power-scale yes.
But we've already seen that 40k operates on a whole other spectrum of fuck.
>>44595909
I say the Protoss are rather far from the Eldar. They got superior technology, psychic powers & can be assholes about it but their culture and government style is closer to the Tau than Eldar, they communicate through telepathy rather than speech, their "teleport away upon grave injury" is closer to the Necrons, heck their "Immortals" war machines are more alike Space Marine Dreadnaughts than Eldar Wraithknights.
>>44596734
But the important part is, can Eldar have 'nid babies?
>>44596767
While I don't think we'll see any Eldar Chestbursters any time soon, I think Eldar DNA could do something. >>44596491 mentioned Zoanthropes.
>>44596767
in theaory they could be infected by genestealers and we have already seen what happens when the Nids process their essence
>>44596491
>>44596607
that Depends really on what their goals are, if they can set up infrastructure like weapons and fortifications, and if their psionics are vulerable to the warp, they have nerve cors and could replicate the Protoss' Khala, which may let them bypass the waro the same way the WAAAHHG! and Hive Mind do, having Psionics not tethered to the warp is a big step, especially if they can start mind controlling an army of Thralls to run proxy work for them
>>44596868
>that Depends really on what their goals are
assuming post Starcraft 2, not being picked off by vengeful protoss zerg and terrans now that their god is dead, possibly expecting to use the warp to their own ends, or maybe seeking to replicate the formula that made them with nids orks and such
>>44588880
there would be More ELdar in the galaxy then them, its a bad starting population, you'd need a Few Hundred Million minumum
question, if I wanted to make a Hybrid inspire army which faction would be best for counts as rules?
>>44588880
They're probably on par with a Tyranid Warrior.
If they all landed on one planet, then that planet would have serious problems, but they pose no real BIG threat to any of the factions, they maybe kill a planet or 2 off and then get killed themselves
>>44596767
The Hybrids are not a product of Protoss and Zerg fugging each other. They are genetic experiments.
Besides, the Protoss won't even have any holes to fugg.
>>44596734
People think protoss tech is better cause its flashier and better than everything else in universe because everything else is backwater marines or biological
>Eldar fight Necrons
>Necrons the fucking masters of science who can solidify time and kill gods
>Nids do everything the zerg do but better
>Zerg beat protoss
>Eldar regularly fight with nids
>>44601753
>Nids do everything the zerg do but better
Not necessarily true. The Nids merely just have a massive numbers advantage over the Zerg. Otherwise, their capabilities are pretty damn equal, with the Nids outperforming the Zerg in psychic shenanigans, while the Zerg arguably got way nastier bioweapons at their disposal than the Nids do. Shit like the way they can infest people in mere moments, and rapidly mutate and take over species, is something that the Nids are not shown to be capable of.
Though, that is partially because the goals of the Nids and the Zerg differ. The Nids seek to simply consume worlds for their biomass, and absorb any useful genetic info they happen to find on the way, while the Zerg are nearly completely focused upon absorbing new strains into the swarm, and improving it further.
Also, Protoss tech is easily superior to Eldar tech, seeing how they have same sort of stuff the Eldar have, in addition to tech that only Necrons have in 40k, like instant teleportation, advanced robotic drones, and in general wast technological understanding. While in comparison, the Eldar tech is way more reliant on their psychic powers, and they have forgotten much about how to make the nastier toys their ancestors wielded.
>>44601865
Nids do have some kinda worm that can infect people, mind control essentially, cant remember its name but im sure someone on here does
Old fluff suggests nids need new DNA strains and that's their main goal, with biomass consumption being a handy side effect. I don't see the zerg having any "nastier" weapons than Nids.
But you are right, the Nids outnumber the zerg so much its funny, look at the swarms in starcraft 1, the largest zerg brood has a whopping like 10 million zerg I think? Tyranid Hive fleets have more ships than that
>>44596863
In some nid codex they hinted at zoanthropes being made of Eldar DNA so that's what >>44596491 is talking about.
>>44601927
I find weapons like the plague from SC1, the Parasitic bomb and Fungal growth in SC2 for example, seems way nastier in comparison to what Nids tend to pull.
Also, the ability of the Zerg to rapidly morph into new forms when needed is something the Nids do not display at all, as they are reliant on their hive ships to engineer altered forms when needed.
The Zerg also seem to be capable of infesting worlds far faster than the nids, being able to sprout hatcheries and shit super fast, even when taken outside of the gameplay context.
Though again, due to the sheer numbers advantage Nids have in comparison to the Zerg, makes the advantages the Zerg might have over the nids rather pointless outside of engagements with similar numbers, which never happen with nids.
>>44601752
>no holes
Guess you just have to dump the load on the face and let it be absorbed through the skin.
>>44602142
That's what we figured out at /v/ some time ago.
Also, as protoss women clearly have tits, but due to no mouths thing, they logically have to feed their young via lactating on their skin.
>>44602167
>>44602142
Go on.
>>44602191
Protoss might reproduce via exchanging genes trough their skin.
Thus, handholding would be the equivalent of fugging for them.
>>44593923
>drown them in bodies.
niggas mindcontroled the fuck out of everyone in the campaign and sector 6, so really bad idea.
>>44600056
tyranids with lots of elite characters?
>>44601865
Do not forget that the entire tyranid swarm bearing down on your guardsmen position are nothing but the pre-digestive enzymes; the 'spittle' if you will, of the ship(s) approaching to slurp up the biomass like a delicious blue-flavored slushie.
One of their nastiest bioweapons other than the ships themselves and biotitans is actually viruses and bacteria. A couple of balloons can pop high in the atmosphere and within days the entire population's coughing up blood and even the plastic filters on the surviving planetary forces are starting to somehow rot and rust.
So they do have some tricks of their own as well.
>>44602215
True.
The nids are far more akin to a massive, single minded, super organism, whereas the Zerg are more traditional hiveminded swarm of alien locusts.
With the end of SC2, the zerg could be even further divided potentially, due to different Brood mothers that Kerrigan created being able to do their own thing, without being bound to a single ruler by the very nature of their existence, like the cerebrates were to the Overmind.
>>44602238
Exactly.
Meanwhile all the overmind was was basically one small 'ship' worth of control and brain, although albeit with far more synapse range.
>>44596767
No.
>>44596734
Breh.
Starcraft is just a rip-off of 40k. Blizzard already admitted to trying by in side-ways to 40k with Warcraft, there's absolutely no reason to assume the same wasn't done with Starcraft.
>>44603322
That doesn't change the fact that the Eldar and the Protoss are hardly alike. The only thing they share is the whole "ancient psychic race" thing, and fondness of glowing stones.
>>44588880
New question.
One of these lands in the 40k Milky way Galaxy, and starts randomly killing things on scattered worlds.
How do the various factions react?
>>44589992
Destroyer.
>>44603322
Starcraft and Warcraft were originally Warhammer games but GM pulled the plug at the last minute.
>>44604189
Technically Warcraft was, but Starcraft wasn't. Starcraft is them just making their own 40k from the recycled fantasy fall-through.
>>44602211
I'd suggest lots of psychic units but nids don't have much
>>44602238
Not to mention that goofy stuff wit the primal zerg and their packs, still my soft spot for dinosaurs made me more okay with them then u should be
>>44603425
Honestly Protoss remain one of the best takes on "space elves" I've ever seen for the perfect balance of alien and relatable they pull off
>>44604212
Granted with other sci-fi inspirations mashed into the blender
>>44604515
Agreed. They are one of my favorite scifi races, and I am glad that the Protoss campaign in LotV didn't have the same sort of lore rape as HotS had with the Zerg.
>>44604534
was LotV good?
been pondering torrenting it (I'm nowhere near good enough for MP but I do love the campaigns.)
>>44604582
Depends on what you consider good.
It's not good in the way SC1 and SC:BW were good, that's for sure.
It does close the story in a satisfactory manner to me, but I've seen others' revulsion towards it, so it's certainly a matter of taste.
Go into it with low standards. I would say it's worth the time.
>>44604582
I greatly enjoyed it, not quite as WoL but you'll probably get the enjoyment of a full game from its co op alone
>>44604582
It is ok.
Way better than HotS. The story is pretty chiched, with all that ancient evul bullshit, but it has a couple of pretty good characters, and Artanis manages to be pretty ok protagonist. While some of the characters are rather dull, they are not aggravating like a lot of the minor characters you had to interact with in the previous campaigns.
The missions are pretty challenging, and you got the ability to customize your forces per mission, instead of being stuck with your choices like in the previous campaigns. You also have all sorts of support powers to choose from.
My main issues with it are mostly how little there is to interact and explore within the Spear of Adun in comparison to Hyperion from WoL and how much potential there could have been for all sorts of interesting protoss fluff and culture stuff that could have been featured on board of the ship.
So it is more of what could have been gripes.
The Epilogue is fucking retarded though.
An easy way to gauge how shitty the part of story in SC2 is, is how much it features Kerrigan. LotV has the least of her, and it is easily the best one storywise, Wol has some of her, and has okayish story that becomes shittier towards the end, as it becomes more and more focused on Kerrigan. Finally, HotS is solely focused on her, and it is utter shite. Same goes for the Epilogue, which is basically all about Kerrigan.
>>44604666
yeah they totally screwed the pooch with how they handled Kerrigan.
>>44604608
My revulsion is only towards the epilogue campaign, I could stomach Kerrigan becoming xel'naga because reasons due to being a sucker for redemption arcs but making her the fucking phoenix force was the last straw, the protoss campaign proper was aces
Pic related was the best character. I wanna see more of him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HElDA_hNuHQ
>>44604534
Honestly the primal zerg would have been better if instead of literally ret conning the zerg origins they had simply stated them to be the xel'naga's alpha build of the zerg, which would have gone into hiding when the overmind was set up
Selendis a cute! CUTE!
>>44604740
Too bad she had such a small part in LotV
>>44604683
To me redemption is not out of the question but making her just amnesiac after she displayed so much of her personality as the queen? A cop out, pure and simple, the key is that the process restore her human morals to her, leaving her painfully aware of all she had done, all she had once enjoyed doing
>>44604767
I'm hoping she will feature in one of the DLCs, after Novas we are expecting 2 more minimum
>>44604683
If I ever go into my own remake of the games, I want to add this dialogue
>So what zeratul, are you saying the bitch is some sort of chosen one?
>she Is no more chosen then you or I James, merely one of many critical pieces of a larger puzzle. One who me removal I have see to have terrible consiquence....
Establish that, don't have her fly off like poochie, and don't make her the Phoenix force, Kerrigan fixed
>>44604833
Phoenix force did give her a hot ass though.
>>44604848
Kerrigan's ass was her sole redeeming feature the whole way through.
>>44603322
They mutually rip each other off. Remember when the Tyranids looked like pic related?
>>44604885
nova has a better ass
being part of a cancelled game keeps her relatively safe from metzen
>>44604848
As >>44604885
Points out, her ass trascends species, now I want to see a lady hybrid with an ass that fine
>>44602205
So artanis shagged raynor?
>>44605002
Metzin let it all get too personal, her turns Kerrigan into a mustache twirling super villain because of a bad divorce then gets over and decides it's a love story now, makes the tone inconsistent with itself
>>44605017
Raynor was in full armor, but that time zeratul was on his ship and injured as hell Raynor did help him up, and zeratul does where next to nothing
>>44605017
Raynor was wearing protection in the form of Powered Armor.
>>44605046
>>44605049
>Power armor functions as space condums too
>>44605292
Full NBC protection baby!
>>44604983
Those designs still had many of the core Nid aesthetics that are retained to this day.
Hell, the gaunts are basically indentical, with the only difference being the head.
>>44605292
Hey if it can function as a mobile prison cell with toilet, why not
>>44604885
At least NeoBlizzard can do something right.
>>44606505
I wonder if Terran Marines eat their own shit like Space Marines do.
>>44607628
They don't go that far mercifully
>>44607900
Well then, do they recycle the semen then?
>>44608067
Only for conjical visits
>>44610090
>dat Selendis ass.
Truly, the purity of form.
>>44604720
>you think us fools!
>yes, but that is irrelevant
based Qtoss
>>44602142
>reproducing through facials
muh magical realm
>>44611694
>No anus
Hybrid ladies have better butts
>>44611900
Nah, the protoss males got no dicks either, so no facials.
Seeing how they seem to do everything from feeding, smelling, hearing and absorbing sunlight trough their skin, it is not much of a stretch to assume that they pass genes trough the same means.
Thus, the protoss reproduce byhandholding, back massages, and tummyrubs.
>>44611944
>impregnation through skin
>>44611944
Well if they don't do the whole "plug head sockets into one another" thing from avatar, then we have to assume the skin thing. But in order for that to work, the male protoss will have to somehow excrete the genetic materialmost likely the guy does fifty pushups, goes jogging, then holds her hand.
>>44612098
when you get down to it Blizzard just didn't think it through, Zeratul has nipples, Protoss girls have boobs, they simply lack face openings save eyes
>>44588880
They get cranky, because everywhere they go, someone screams "tyranids".
What are they, anyway?
>>44612203
... oh god that gave me a horrible thoughtwhat if they reproduce through their nipples.
>>44611923
Hmmm
>>44612443
Would help if I posted the pic
>>44612238
Hybrids. They're retardedly powerful. Probably analogous to Gargantuan Creatures.
>>44588880
I don't see how they would be THAT dangerous. They are basically nothing but a physically-capable Zoanthrope, especially if we go with that type you posted which is basically kinda like a psychic Carnifex.
They aren't shown to breed like the Zerg do so my guess is that they wouldn't be able to to overrun the Imperium of man. Worst case scenario they can just Exterminatus the planet.
>>44612568
Way, way, way tougher and bigger than a carnifex, though. I mean, ultralisks were visibly patterned off carnifexes, but even more massive, and reavers are even moreso. A hybrid nemesis could just fly off and take on the exterminatus fleet head to head, of course.
That being said, they don't normally invade by themselves, they like to corrupt people's minds and such. Them showing in 40k would be totally pointless, since their inclusion in SC is more or less to include Chaos style themes anyway.
Pissed off, supremely intelligent beings with the physical properties of biotitans and the psychic properties of greater daemons. In 40k they'd be more or less tweaked daemon titans and daemon ships.
>>44590545
not even close then.
A better question is without Amon around, do they even have a goal? What are they trying to do in this scenario?
>>44611944
If i nut on a protoss females face, will she steal muh gains?
>>44611944
But how do they give birth?
>>44612794
perhaps use the warp to forge a new God, Fiddle with Tyranid birthing pools, who knows OP was kinda vague
>>44612973
No clue. Clearly, due to the whole "no orifices" thing, they can't actually lay eggs or give birth.
Possibly they reproduce via budding. A female toss could for example, grow a temporary sack on the outer layers of her belly skin, inside of which the babby develops, and when it is ready to be born, the sack is shed away. Kinda like how reptiles shed their skin.
Bam, orificiless reproduction achieved.
>>44612482
I didn't know I needed more of this in my life
>>44588880
So what if a few million Pillarmen end up in 40k?
>>44613736
too bad, you ain't getting any
>>44590307
>a million arrive via slipspace hole in reality
>arrive in a dead system
>within a year of waking up, one planet has been converted into a full eden, one is used as a strip mined planet down to the core, billions of strato-sentinels make up the rest of the stellar mass
>for shit's and giggles, they split a planet into 8 wedges with the core exposed to space at the center
fucking forerunners, their like space wizards
>>44588880
what army do you intend to play them as?
>>44616623
Would it be possible to harness the power of that planet's core, and keep it from cooling as quickly as it would, with forerunner tech? Because, if so, that could be repurposed as a superweapon.
>>44621293
considering the forerunners could probably produce weapons capable of sterilizing the galaxy within a decade of arriving, turning the core of a planet into a super-weapon is child's play.
>>44621040
The hybrids were a kind of a letdown desu.
>>44604720
This is the dumbest shit ever.
>>44601865
>instant teleportation, advanced robotic drones,
Eldar have both those things.
>>44623294
No they do not.
They rely on webway to move about, which is far from instant, and in the case of Warp Spiders, short range jumps into the Warp, which is extremely dangerous for the Eldar.
They also explicitly do not have robots. They got constructs powered and piloted by the souls of their ancestors, but no actual robots with AI.
>>44613995
So what if a few million Bill Cosbys end up in 40k?
>>44623795
Women every where get drugged, authorities find out, bills all fall fmtp chaos
>>44622796
Inevitable when you hype an enemy up and have to make it killable
>>44623762
To be precise, they have both of those things, but both require large amounts of psychic power to manipulate, which is considered not worth it tot he Eldar.
Going on what we know the best faction to play them as might be either grey knights or chaos daemonkin
>>44604983
To be fair most nids still look pretty similar, just more modernised and monstery, the hive tyrants look very similar, gaunts look the same, lictor is similar, carnifex is the only real difference
>>44612506
They aren't THAT powerful
>>44623762
Problem is they definitely do have both those things, but the 40k universe is a fuck load harsher than the SC one, teleporting can cause you to be ripped apart by demons so its used in short bursts, and robots aren't used by elder because they usually end in AI uprising and the Eldar cant be all lazy and sedentary like their past selves (who have machines do everything) because that feeds the demonic galactic god that wants to eat their souls.
SC universe got it fucking easy
>>44627669
The 40k equivalent of Teleporation is transportation trough the warp, outside of maybe Necrons. In SC, teleportation doesn't seem to involve any dimensional travel, but is more akin to straight up "Beam me up!" style transportation.
Well, at least in the case of the warp in stuff. The gateways etc, fluffwise do transport shit trough wormholes or shit like that. The way faster than light travel happens in Starcraft is not really explained at all.
>>44627757
FTL travel in Starcraft (at least how the Protoss and Zerg do it) involves using massive psionic energy to open a stable wormhole between your location and the destination. Same with non-Dark Templar teleportation
>>44627816
That's for the Zerg, but isn't protoss FTL more tech based? I mean, while the protoss are psychic, they are also very technologically advanced, and to my understanding, most of their tech isn't shit that is based solely on psychic shit. Sure, their technology is powered by the Psionic matrix emanating from Aiur, but they aren't on the level of Eldar, whose tech is basically half built on frigging magic.
>>44627885
as far as I know, most Protoss technology other than AI is just focusing for their innate psionic power. Most likely, the equivalent to their ships' FTL engines would be a large number of Khaydarin crystals that focus psionic power so they only need a few Templars to open the wormhole instead of the combined psionic energy of an entire zerg brood's overlords
>>44627963
Maybe so. It is a shame that SC2 basically provided zero additional fluff on the setting. Talk about a missed opportunity.
>>44605010
Yes but Phoenix force did give her a HOT ass.
>>44595909
>>44596767
Well we're damn sure going to TRY!
>>44612482
>>44613736
>I didn't know I needed more of this in my life
OF COURSE!
If the Hybrids are basically Tyranids on steroid, than what would happen, if one Hivefleet happen to omnomom one for the genetic material? Other then the end of the Milky Way.
>>44628077
Fuck off back to /d/ you cancerous faggot.
>>44628156
They aren't though, Tyranids have more capable creatures than the hybrids
>>44603322
Starcraft may have been a rip-off, but its undeniably a better written setting.
>>44628002
that's a consistent problem with Blizzard, and Diablo suffers from it too. They write awesome universes, stick 80% of the lore in books, then make games that shit all over it because their actual writers aren't very good
>>44628354
Not as much as giant mutant popcorn though.
>>44628457
Maybe back before SC2.
Mentzen's love story and prophecy crap, along with general retcons shat all over the mood and themes of original Starcraft, and made it simplified, hollywoodian spesh opera tripe.
>>44628077
I tolerate you only because you occasionally post new art I like, I have grown to dislike you as a person
>>44628748
well I suppose its a good thing I love classic style space operas, and honestly even with the Dip from 2 I think it's more cleanly written then 40k, and I speak as one who likes 40k
>>44628748
Many of the "retcons" were actually more interesting than the setting as it lay. But the mood was certainly another beast entirely.
>>44629349
>Many of the "retcons" were actually more interesting than the setting as it lay
Such as?
>>44626465
assuming you fill in with Xel'naga constructs and such for the Mech, Maybe some brainwashed Terran Thralls to be fodder
>>44629409
Overmind being a rebellious supercomputer with a ten thousand year plan to fuck shit up instead of just an eyeball with a protoss boner.
>>44630407
That is a very liberal interpretation of "a courageous and noble creature" as described by Tassadar/spesh Cthulhu.
>>44604983
>Remember when Tyranids looked like pic related?
Oh you mean when Tyranids simply looked like slightly cartoonish early versions of what they are now? Like every fucking army book and mini from that era of 40k?
Is that what you mean, you stupid fucking asshole?
>>44630539
he was telling Zeratul what he needed to hear, the Overmind was clearly looking out for the zerg, that it saved other races was Gravy at best
>>44601865
Something worth adding is that Zerg viruses and infestations spread fast.
A genestealer might take three generations to reach a significant population of a hive world. A zerg infestation could take three weeks, and be more thorough.
I think the mere existence of hive worlds will give zerg access to the numbers and biomass they need to be an equivalent fighting force to the other factions in 40K
>>44631154
True. It takes decades for Genestealer infestations to grow to the point where they can actually do anything.
>>44632509
yeah the fact that they can relies on the fact that the Imperium has crappy Screening abilities and more people on a hive world then can be put in a census
>>44588880
So a few million of these Majins land in the milky way galaxy, 40th Millennium, presumably able to keep their numbers up in one manner or another
How do they fair?
>>44632572
What even are those things?
>>44634740
Majins, a race descended from Majin Buu of Dragon Ball Z...
>>44634740
Imagine an entire race of Majin Buu from Dragon Ball.
>>44638727
how strong are they in comparison to Buu? even one Buu could really fuck up the galaxy
>>44638956
On the whole probably not quite as strong as Majin Buu, since Mr. Buu is the one who created them and he isn't nearly as powerful as he was when he had his evil half. That said, they're still an entire race of Buus, their bullshit turn things into candy magic would wreck house in the 40k setting.
>>44621326
Yet they still have nothing on full scale precursors except the halo rings
![Arm_Commander[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/SUYzccQ.gif "Arm_Commander[1].gif")
One of these land in the milky way galaxy, 40th Millennium in a far away corner, and is left alone for a year.
How does it fair?
>>44628077
Disregard what the others said. I like this art.
>>44639004
So, another Chaos race, then.
>>44639250
Galaxy gets fugged.
