It's the year 2125. The great cities have risen, and fallen. Mankind has turned its back on civilization and the poisoned fruits of its labor. Oil no longer spews and ore is no longer ripped from the wounds of the earth, Gaia returned to the beauty of her birth. The scattered farms teem with the fruits and vegetables of her bounty, the children of men no longer the savage and bloodthirsty carnivores they once were. It is a pure world, a better world. It is the Pastoral World.
How do you get agriculture and mostly-modern looking tools and clothing in a world without the evils of America, /tg/? What sort of pastoral tools would you use?/tg/ builds a setting thread
>>44515722
So, the european highlands?
>>44516617
Are there highlands in Europe other than Scotland?
On-topic, human slavery. We use humans to imitate modern technology.
>>44515722
Farm tools Made from metal scavenged from Cars,Ingots of useful materials replacing paper currency,Wool and Undyed leather clothing everywhere,Duck foot Flint lock pistols Made from old pipes since there's no more Centralized distribution infrastructure.
>>44520267
Where would they get the gunpowder though? They don't mine shit anymore.
>>44520324
2 out of three you don't mine and the last can be substituted.
>>44520267
Assuming that the populace is a fraction of what it used to be, scavenging old metals should be more than fulfill their needs. Which of course it a tad hypocritical, but still...
I give it ten minutes before someone declares themselves God King, and starts using the massive food surplus from farming to feed armies of warriors to conquer all in their path (with stone weapons, if need be).
TL; DR, OP knows nothing about economics, sociology, politics or even basic history.
>>44515722
>2125
>Gaia returned to the beauty of her birth
Yeah, no. By that time we'll be up +6 degrees Celsius and the mega fauna will be almost extinct. Also acid oceans and no fish. Also shitty air. Gotta push your utopia way into the future.
>>44520423
Running a large nation gets unwieldy without modern communications, restricting its maximum size and lifetime. Go back enough and the society might end up like the squabbling city-states of mesopotamia, with no central government between them for generations. Once you managed to conquer your neighbor and put your relative or favorite as its ruler, it didn't take long until they rebelled and became independent - the power differences were just too small between the cities for any subjugation to take for long.
>>44520942
Um, there were a lot of empires in the antiquity right? And with all the scrap metal lying around we'd actually be in the iron age.
>>44515722
>Pastora-punk
There is nothing to punk about nor The Man to fight against in your setting. It's pretty much a facsimile of Pioneer America, so don't even put a -punk in the name.
>>44515722
Before you know it, some moron is gonna start calling FarCry: Primal a "punk" setting.
New Setting
JenkemPunk
Humanity has finally run out of fossil fuel, nuclear power is verboten and solar power is bullshit, so we must rely on the one source of fuel which will never run out.
Human shit.
What do you eat to create the most high test jenkem? How will society deal with the smell? Is JenkemPunk truly the shit?
>>44520942
But anon, a lot of empires popped up in ancient Mesopotamia. Fairly long-lasting ones, too
>>44515722
>without the evils of America
Wasn't the industrial revolution English?
Also, pic related.
>>44521379
Red Khmer did nothing wrong.
>>44520423
He's going to save this world. Whether it likes it or not.
>>44521120
Please return to your designated shitting boards subcontinental.
>>44515722
your post makes me think of that guy who decided to go back to nature. he gave away all his money, burned his possessions, and then went out into the wilderness.
he died of starvation about a week later. peopel can wax on about the evils of modern society, but it does a fucking fantastic job of keeping most of us fed and breathing.
>>44524586
A number of years ago Green Parties were a new thing, over here a few party hippies decided to demonstrate how to live in natural manner. They build a mud hut or something in the city square and lived there without any modern amenities. That came to an end about three or four days later when they all fell violently ill and had to be carted off to the hospital.
>>44515722
>no fossil fuels to use to make fertilizer
>no metals to make tools
>teeming farms
This is bait.
>>44520713
Only if you don't stop civilization. Just nuke everything.
>>44520423
Sure, someone could do that. But then the UN would slap their shit down. This is clearly the post-Liberal world where all the things modern socialists want came true.
>>44521078
It can only become Punk once others copy it.
>>44521120
I would play this unironically.
>What do you eat to create the most high test jenkem?
Well I remember that one shit-fetishist pedo who apparently said he liked his teenage boys to eat cheese, so I guess cheese.
>How will society deal with the smell?
They'll get used to it, partially as it will be restricted to specific zones within the city. Industrial districts form around designated shitting streets, which become the center of industry. India finally achieves its dream of becoming a world superpower, and in fact becomes THE world power.
A new raj forms around the ancient city of Patna in the province of Bihar, which rapidly becomes the premier industrial capital of the world, and soon conquers Nepal, Bhutan, and Sri Lanka, but ends up in a protracted proxy war with Pakistan over control of Afghanistan and Kashmir; fighting through proxies, militants, carefully-placed destabilization, and local clans, the threat of mutually assured destruction by shit-powered nuclear weapons all that keeps this conflict from turning into open warfare. Fervent nationalism and a resurgence of ancient traditions follow, symbolized both by the centralizing of power around the ancient capital of the Madagha, the Maurya of Ashoka the Great, and the Gupta. A new Hindu Renaissance blossoms around a new set of sutras, and the act of shitting in public, soon becoming a religious requirement prescribed in these new sutras, is elevated to an art and a science.
>Continue
>>44526408
However, with this new renaissance, so too are some of the glorious Republic's worst flaws revitalized. Endemic corruption worses under the BJP, Sati makes a return -- at first only among the most radically-traditionalist Brahmin families, but eventually among all -- and the caste-system, too, experiences a new resurgence. Dalit and shudra politicians are dragged from power, many suffering grisly public execution. Those who resist find their extended families, or even their entire Jats, threatened with death and worse. Under the far-right Bihari BJP, the once proudly secular republic soon becomes a fiercely caste-based theocracy.
Nigeria and Ethiopia become world powers, fighting over the northern half of Africa and rivaling India and Indonesia. Many of the more traditional nomadic peoples, such as the Maasai and, of course, the San hunter-gatherers, do fairly well for themselves. The Tuaregs struggle with drought, and the fact that, as Nigeria becomes the single premier power in West Africa, the Berber north has largely fallen to barbarism. Nigeria, soon claims much of the North, as much through voluntary allegiance and the promise of a better life as through war, and becomes a power rivaling India in the East. Howerver, as with BJP India, its corruption worsens as more and more wealth becomes concentrated in the hands of a few as the rest -- particularly in the dryer, harsher, comparatively shit-free North -- face desperate poverty and brutal repression.
>It's not racist, it's grimdark and punk.
>Continue
>>44515722
I've seen stupid settings but this is somehow dumber than CATastrophe
>>44526454
In East Asia, the PRC falls, and China splits into numerous feuding provincial states,power shifting to the poorest rural villages as the pristine urban centers become untenable, their populations ravaged first by riot, then by mass starvation. The populations of nations such as Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, and South Korea, having long-since eliminated open defecation entirely, are nearly driven to extinction, the battered, desperate remnants of their populations slowly forming petty, iron-age coastal states. Cambodia soon becomes the center of industry in East Asia, annexing its neighbors and forming a powerful maritime republic in Southeast Asia; a shining beacon of technology and civilization amidst the petty, feuding, pre-industrial states that now make up most of the Far East.
>Continue
>>44526507
Similarly, Europe and America are reduced to barbarism. Mass famine spreads like a wildfire, and entire cities are depopulated within months. The highways collapse, abandoned and unrepaired, while small, independent farming communes develop in the most rural areas.
In much of Northern Mexico, Texas, and the Southwestern United States, a new feudal system develops, dominated by a horse-mounted, rifle-wielding aristocracy -- half cowboys and half knights, modeling themselves on the old Rancheros of Mexican California. This neo-feudal society reaches its peak in Northern Mexico, where powerful noble houses form around drug cartels, drug-lords becoming wealthy princes from the combined income of drug sales and tribute extorted from subjugated farmers and cattle-herders, many made addicted to heroin and opium to keep them from rebelling. Fields of red poppies bloom around villages across Northern Mexico and the American southwest, their heroin-addicted caretakers carefully watched by horse-mounted feudal drug-lords, clad head-to-toe in kevlar and brandishing assault rifles with scavenged bullets.
One of these drug lords forges a vast feudal empire extending as far north as the Red River in what was once Texas, as far east as the Sierra Nevada in what was once California, and as far south as the northern lowlands of Peten, in what was once Guatemala. The drug lord declares his empire a new Rome, and himself a new Caesar, but his empire soon falls, laid low and conquered by the shit-powered Republic of Colombia in its rapid northern advance.
>>44526527
>Will continue, once I finish writing about Europe and the Middle East.
>>44520942
>Herp derp what is the Roman Empire
>Herp derp what is Mongol Empire
>Herp derp what is the Persian Empire
>Herp derp what is the British Empire
>Herp derp what is Imperial China
>Herp derp what are the dozens and dozens of other wide-ranging empires that existed long before the advent of modern communications
>>44526408
>>44526454
>>44526507
>>44526527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YM0Ln7KgrU
>>44526826
Aww shucks, thanks :3
>>44526527
>>44526579
Nearly the entire population of Europe is left dead of famine or violence in a cataclysm worse than the Black Plague. When the dust settles, the remnants of those nations form independent farming communes similar to those of much of the former United States before the rise of American feudalism, but largely following ethnic and linguistic divisions. Due to the comparative lack of guns, however, a feudal landholding warrior-aristocracy does not develop as it did in North America, and the various farming clans remain largely independent.
However, Greece and Turkey, having not entirely abandoned the art of open-air shitting, soon experience a technological resurgence. Shit-powered centers of industry develop in Turkey and Greece, forming trade centers along the Mediterranean, forming merchant empires and gateways between the industrialized states of Mesopotamia and the Caucasus, and the pre-industrial farming clans of Eastern Europe.
The lack of oil, and the lack of public shitting in Saudi Arabia, ensures that the House of Saud collapses utterly, and Arabia falls into tribalism and chaos. Yemen, still well-versed in the art of public defecation, manages to survive as a vassal-state of Ethiopia, and soon claims the entirety of the now-anarchic Arabian desert, eventually reaching the rich alluvial plains of Chaldea -- a region which soon becomes a vitally-important border region; the very nexus of politics in the Near East.
>>44526988
Iran remains shit-filled and industrialized, as does Iraq and much of the Caucasus. However, Iraq is split between Kurdistan in the North, the Republic of Yemen in the South, and Iran in the East. Iran annexes these and becomes the premier power of much of the Near-East, while Arabia, as mentioned, is entirely claimed by Yemen, which acts as a gateway between North and South just as Turkey and Greece do between East and West. A tense peace exists between Iran, Yemen, and Turkey, their borders meeting in the plains of Chaldea. A Turkmen free-city forms there, where their borders meet -- a grand, multi-ethnic, shit-powered Islamic merchant city in whose bazaars, it is said, anything may be found, and anything may be attained for the right price.
lol OP is going to get BTFO by someone with 12 foot soldiers because his community is entirely agricultural. There is evil in this world OP and sometimes you have to fight it.
>>44526691
Mankind doesn't have animals for riding anymore. They might have semaphore though.
>>44527008
Fuck, ignore the "Iran annexes these" part. I meant to delete that. Iran doesn't annex Kurdistan or Yemen, it annexes a bunch of small petty states along the Euphrates River. Iraq gets split between Kurdistan, Yemen, and Iran.
>>44527094
Also, I'm not sure if anyone can tell, but I was in a bit of a rush with >>44526988 and >>44527008 , because my Internet was being weird and I was distracted.
Now we just need to think of a tagline.
Personally, I'm thinking "JenkemPunk: The Shit Must Flow."
