>Google Drive
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B20r6rsFLOg_Zk5RdVdya3hJNnc&usp=sharing
>IRC
http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=rizon.mibbit.org&channel=%23JumpchainCYOA
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA
>Rules
http://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn
>It all returns to nothing
>>44482326
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year.
>>44497108
THE HYPE TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES.
IT'S GOING DOWN.
>>44497108
Happy fucking new years holy shit
>>44497108
Happy New Year you magnificent fucks!
>>44497108
WOO THANK YOU
>>44497108
Thank you. This Jump fills me with determination for the new year.
So what's Metalocalypse etiquette? Do you do both, is lowercase or UPPERCASE preferred over the other...?
Just at a first glance I'm favoring Alera Anon's version, since it doesn't just focus on the band itself and include Klokateers and references the myth arc more.
>>44497108
WOOOOO
HAPPY NEW YEAR
>>44497181
While it might have been miscommunication I mostly see it as a "are you metal enough to go the twice" type of deal
>>44497108
Hell yes, happy new year.
If you edit, mind adding page breaks before each section so stuff doesn't get split between pages?
>>44497108
>Ghost
>Possess inanimate object
>"For 100 cp more, you may import any inanimate object no smaller than a mouse, and no larger than a jet fighter."
>Supernatural Jump
>Classic Muscle Car
>"You can import a previous vehicle and give it the appearance of a classic muscle car, retaining its former abilities."
>Light of Terra ACU Mortarr Head
>All capabilities intact
>Muscle Car sized
>Smaller than a jet fighter
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. YEEEEES!
>>44497225
Good idea, though the program I used to make this doesn't have the option to show pages.
>>44497237
That's actually kind of a wicked combo, not going to lie.
I'm going to enjoy having a magically attuned body soon enough, though trying to reconcile that with being made of nanomachines is going to be rough...and I don't even want to KNOW how that works with Karma Chamelon
>>44497181
Use either one you prefer.
>>44497293
Yeah, that basically hit me as soon as I got up to that point in the jump.
Of course, I can't actually use it because my LoT doesn't meet the "inanimate object" classification. Oh well. There are some neat theming magics available.
>>44497181
While I support the freedom to choose whichever jump you prefer, I too favor Alera Anon's version
>>44497354
Makes me think of that Jojo stand now.
>>44497108
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW YYYYYYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I'm really tempted to retcon this before Touhou in my chain. Just so I can use the ALL THE COLORS during Danmaku...
Happy New Years ya bastids.
>>44497108
See this?
Jump it.
>>44497108
Why must you tempt me with so many good perks when you know I'll never be able to afford them all?
>>44497423
It's the Dark Hadou of Jumpmaking. It's spreading everywhere, as it should.
(I can't really retroactively introduce it to Kid Radd's perks...but the GEAR however~)
>>44497108
How difficult is this setting for the uninitiated to the series? does the plot fix itself or is this something that is basically damning as a first or second jump?
>>44497108
>that secret
I was expecting chara, but that's pretty excellent
>>44497438
You willing to play the game because I am willing to gift the game to you if you wish to find out.
>>44497438
The notes say that as long as you don't kill anyone, the plot is going to go the True Pacifist route automatically. So it's completely safe, so long as you don't do anything horrible. You wouldn't do anything horrible, would you?
>>44497423
Wrath mantra. I feed off of your rage.
>>44497438
If you do nothing, the plot will resolve itself. This jump is as relaxing as you make it.
>>44497438
If you don't kill anyone or thing (except ghosts, who can't die anyways unless they're bound to an item) during your stay here, then the plot will pretty much fix itself. Getting the perks and laying low is an extremely valid option. Unless you're a human, in which case it's valid but also boring as fuck since the only place where monsters won't actively try to fight you is the Ruins, with Toriel.
>>44497455
No time really, I barely have time to do daily things, much less play through a full video game. days of all day gaming are pretty much gone now unfortunately.
>>44497484
It's mentioned in the human bio, though I can see why that'd be necessary information.
>>44497108
Jump #11, Undertale:
Location: Ruins
Background: Fallen Human
Perks: Summon Annoying Dog, Blessing of Toby Fox, DETERMINATION, ACT, MERCY, SAVE the World
Magic: Bullet Patterns
Companions: Sans
Gear: College Fund x2, Food Museum, Echo Flower Seeds
Drawbacks: What’s a MIDI file? SOME RANDOM WINGDING TEXT,ASRIEL DREEMUR
Oh boy, this is going to be fun, having to dealACTUAL FUCKING SPOILER ALERTwith Flowey being an ass, and then turning him into Asriel, and THEN getting Chara to fuck the fuck off.
Christ on a pogo stick if I didn't have the charisma perks from this it'd be impossible.
>>44497479
The game takes about 6 hours for a single play-through if you take your time, and saves are frequent enough that you consume it in 20-minute chunks if that's all the time you have.
>>44497515
alternatively you could be a complete cockbag and spend about 24 hours on worst ending, with about 18 hours of it being the two boss fights
I have so, so many regrets, but it was almost worth it for that Sans fight, just, holy shit it felt GOOD to go through that, cathartic pain
>>44497108
I need to read what that Wingding text says, but copy+pasting it is FUCKED
I've been waiting a while to say this, but...
Anyone else tempted to take "Anime is Real" and keep that drawback for almost the remainder of their chain?
Cause that's hilarious in places like say..Platoon.
>>44497559
The thought had occured to me.
>>44497551Dark, Dark, yet darker
How interesting...
>>44497108
Brows I love you as a Jumpmaker but I hate you for doing this to me for companions. I can't for the life of me. Find or justify a reason for them to follow me. I don't want to break them apart nor do I just want to take one without taking them all. I love and hate you for making this jump.
>>44497509
>Blessing of Toby Fox
>What's a midi file?
You poor fool.
>>44497527
pic related
>>44497551DARK, DARKER, YET DARKER
>>44497585*Dark, Darker yet Darker
How did I fuck that up?
>>44497595
what, it's just 10 years of the the song in midi, then I get to hear it in normal, right?
>>44497108
>Two drawback limit
Oh come on, that's unnecessarily cruel.
>>44497559
>"These Japs just aren't giving in."
>"Looks like we'll have to use... THAT."
>pushes up shiny anime glasses
>days later
>prototype mech 'Little Boy' is deployed with an inexperienced but highly skilled teenaged pilot to cut through waves of superpowered cyborg ninjas
>>44497672
Brows wants all of our points. Just like Red, Dirge, and a couple other jump makers. They will build a castle from our tears of suffering.
>>44497616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M23Nz3v0jaU
>>44497683
Is it wrong that I actually would want to see something like that?
>>44497108
Jump #11, Undertale:
Location: Ruins
Background: Fallen Human
Perks: Summon Annoying Dog, Blessing of Toby Fox, DETERMINATION, ACT, MERCY, SAVE the World
Magic: Bullet Patterns
Companions: Sans, Papyrus
Gear: None
Drawbacks:DARK, DARKER, YET DARKER, ASRIEL DREEMUR
Redid the jump because I realized Papyrus would probably come with his own food museum, also I couldn't take Sans without Papyrus.
>>44497404
Hi there! Happy New Year!Still no luck with internet?
>>44497108
How do I roll A dTemmie ?
>>44497813
You take a Temmie, and then you roll it, and whatever Temmie it lands on, that's what you Temmie.
>>44497813
An appropriate time to use this.
Also: You draw from a deck of cards, obviously.
>>44497813
You let Temmie vibrate for an extended period of time, and whatever her face lands on is your result.
>>44497840
Bitch do you think this is a game?
>>44497858
So 1D52?
>>44497881
Seriously? Because I don't have a vibrating Temmie... Guess I'll have to pick another option than
>>44497898
The joke is that the age roll cannot possibly matter, because Temmies basically remain in physical and mental stasis for their entire lives. Because they're Temmie.
But if you really want to roll something, do a Dog age roll.
>>44497898
It's ok, Bancho, just use your face. I'm pretty sure you're close enough to a Temmie to count.
>>44497898
>tfw you never continued playing past the point you murdered Toriel
>>44497953
Anon please. Just because you failed at getting passed the Toriel doesn't mean you need to greentext it.
>>44497945
Oh okay.
>>44497947
Pretty sure that's an insult.
>>44497953
Actually now I'm stuck at the fish lady, and I haven't Even struck her.
>>44497953>he doesn't know you don't have to kill Toriel
>>44497945
Out of curiosity if you purchase Friskdo the come with Chara?
I mostly had an idea that seemed amusing if they did.
>>44498123
Dude no,Bad idea.
>>44498123Kind of. They're dormant, like they would be on a Pacifist run, but I'm sure with enough work you can coax them out.In fact, that's basically necessary for the secret ending...
>>44498164
Would a combination of Lord of light reincarnation technology along with FMA alchemy be able to separate them? because Fisk is a decent kid and doesn't deserve that complete ass hole riding inside of them.
>>44498139
What's the worst that can happen?Contract of the Fallen Child, Job Offer from Chara, just off the top of my head.Oh god, since when was bancho the voice of reason?
>>44498189
>Suggesting human transmutation
We all know how well that ends.
It ends poorly. Every time. Without fail.
>>44498139
>>44498164
If your curious my idea wasTrying to reconstruct the videogame deconstruction by attempting to teach Chara the concepts of side quests, minigames, narrative events, minimaxing, and basically
'actually getting 100% completion instead of losing potential content'. That and the idea of Chara ending up doing stuff like going "Can't kill everyone yet I'm not done catching all the fish, and I still haven't found enough ::insert side quest:: items here::. Oh and I need to get those rare items" really amusing.
>>44498227so prolonging the existence of the world with DLC and forcing them to be even more completionist than just "time to see what happens when I kill everyone"
Amazing
>>44498227
-actual spoilers-Daily reminder that Chara only decides to destroy everything if you give them lots of LOVE. Before they died, they only hated humanity for an unspecified reason.
>>44498226
Oh no transmutation, I'm just gonna sort through their spiritual essence and put Chara Somewhere safe where they can't hurt anybody, I'm thinking I'll Put them in a copy of their old body and set up a super computer With a Replika of the underground and its contents except for actors, so They will be unable to hurt anyone or interact with the real world in any meaningful way. You know Like what they would have Had if they completed their genocide Run
>>44498197
I keep telling you folks I'm trying!
>>44497108
Yo, Brows. What happens if you have specific perks that enable you to remember time shenanigans? Would "I'm Not Ready To Let Go" override them?
I know the answer is generally always drawbacks win over perks, I just ask because that seems like the kind of thing you wouldn't need to account for, normally. It's a pretty esoteric ability.
>>44498261
... that's pretty close to human transmutation there.all these people blaming chara for their actions. chara does nothing wrong unless you push them to. (though they're still not a great person even before they died)
>>44498271
Drawbacks override perks in all situations. Even if your memory is immune to weird time shit, it's not immune to the True Reset.
>>44498242
That's basically the idea.
>>44498246
I kind of forgot about that part.
>>44498285
... what about a regular reset?
>>44498285
well actually there's one specific perk that ovverrides a drawback and that's pokeglot/antiglot, as confirmed by the jumps' creator BUT STILL
>>44498297
If you're an observer, then you might see the human kill some stuff before getting around to true pacifist. Or not! Depends on what kind of story you'd want to write. They'll never do a Genocide run, though.
>>44498285
Nope. They override perks in that setting but not perks from other settings. See Quicksilver's ancient rulings on pokemon language in his mystery dungeon jump.
>>44498285
>>44498321
WellSansis immune to a true reset. What's stopping a jumper with ripple proof memories! And Frisk is immune to a true reset as well.Flowey ALLOWED himself to be reset anyway.
And the playthrough on the second run is slightly different dependent on what run you've done previously, Characters will make slight nods to your actions prior.
Convincing a benevolent entity to move on is hard enough. Trying to do it while having your memories erased each time is next to impossible without some kind of chaos theory bullshit that makes a jumper not follow normal protocol and do something different each reset. At the very least offer some resistance retaining some bit of info from the previous run and have a jumper piece it together before the next reset.
>>44498321
>>44498326
Technically Antiglot only says you don't automatically gain the ability to understand pokemon talk just by being one, not that you lose the capability to do so.
>>44498326
No, not how it works, never has been. That ruling was a one off and the guy's stuck to the same rule as everyone else for everything else. Drawbacks override ALL perks.
>>44498326
Double nope, that one specific drawback allows that one specific perk, because it only exists because that jump gave you that perk for free and he didn't think it was fair to screw people over because they bought a perk months before PMD was even announced.
>>44498321
Also do we keep monster forms As alternate forms after the jump?
>>44498326
Really? I guess I can't really say for sure, then. Usually, the rule seems to be that drawbacks ovverride all perks, and the PMD thing was an exception???
I guess it's up to your specific judgement, but I usually err on the side of "Perks cannot override drawbacks" because then all those "you fugly" drawbacks would be made meaningless by all the "you pretty af" perks.
>>44498367
No, Bancho, unlike every other jump in existence you lose your purchased forms straight after the jump, the benefactor no longer provides access to OF COURSE YOU KEEP THEM AS ALT FORMS.
>>44498351
[spoilers]Sans is not immune. He still loses his memories, it seems, but somehow keeps a photo of the ending.[/spoilers]
>>44498367
What would make you think the contrary?
>>44498396
Did you forget to trip? because I'm not sure that's your call, and if that was a thing every jump in which you Are human would Give a human alt-form Which would be pretty cool if you assume that your done in the art style of whatever that jump was based on.
>>44498351
>Well Sans is immune to a true reset.
This is actually not true. (at least as far as I'm aware)
He's aware of the EXISTENCE of time traveler(s), and is observant enough to notice small cues in people with ripple effect proof memories in order to make the proper deductions.
But he does NOT have ripple proof memory.
>>44498388
He's wrong, ignore him. Perks are overridden by drawbacks no matter what. Anything else is fanwank.
>>44498351
I thoughtSanswasn't immune to the true resets, he was just capable of detecting when they happened.
>>44498354
Odd. Why is it considered a one off?
>>44498353
I thought it locked you out entirely. I'll take another look.
>>44498366
Huh. I swear the rule continued to other jumps, but stopped being mentioned after QS jumped ship.
>>44498388
Fair point.
>>44498404
Because it wasn't mentioned one way or the other, and I get in trouble for assuming things.
>>44498404
Your failure at spoiling is for all to see.
>>44498388
You are correct, drawbacks override all perks. The PMD one isn't even an exception, the perk doesn't say you can't talk to pokemon, it just says you don't get free pokespeech just by being a pokemon. Pokeglot works, but so would any other jump with a perk letting you speak any language or communicate without language, and a perk letting you learn languages faster should still let you learn to communicate if you lack one granting communication outright.
>>44498351
>>44498321
Actually, yeah, Sans has that room that survives even in the event of a true reset. Shouldn't you be able to do something...?
Otherwise, realistically, the only way you can stop the True Reset is to never allow the monsters to reach the surface, ever, and keep trying to stop it until the player gives up the game in disgust. You can't even give them the chance of a happy ending, because even if you got them to promise through command prompts, there's still a pretty good chance you'd lose all your memories and get caught in an infinity loop.
That's the kind of drawback where you either go villain or go home.
>>44498424
it's 3:40 am cut me some slack
>>44498419
Is there any jump where you lose your altforms? Because I can't remember a single jump where that's the case.
>>44498404
I just thought of something. How does the Lost Souls drawback work if you either don't import eight companions and/or have more than eight active do to pods, and how does it interact with the whole 'you can switch your active companions at any time thing'?
>>44498416
>I thought it locked you out entirely. I'll take another look.
It's mostly that it says you don't gain it automatically. Not that you lose it. It also implies other ways of learning it.
>>44498405
>and if that was a thing every jump in which you Are human would Give a human alt-form
Any jump in which you purchase a specific human form for CP should give you that as an alt form, yes. Do I need to be the jump maker to tell you that an ability or form that you purchase for CP and says nothing about you losing access to it is kept?
>>44498416
>Why is it considered a one off
Because nobody else has made a perk override a drawback within their own jumps before.
Which is odd, I'd expect at least one other instance of this happening considering the sheer amount of jumps.
>>44498442
>>44498439
Hang on, are you saying that every origin I've ever purchased gives me an Alternate-form?! oh this is going to be handy :-)
>>44498449
That's generally how alt-forms work, yes. Though it's safe to assume that it only applies to non-human forms.
>>44498449
You've been going all this time without knowing that? Well, this is your lucky day, then. Yes, every form you take as a result of an origin counts as a new alt-form.
>>44498440
I should probably clarify that the drawback forces you to pick 8 companions (or all of your companions, if you have less than eight) and forces them to stay active. Apologies for the unclear phrasing.
>>44498449
Only for nonhuman forms, unless specified otherwise.
>>44498446
Well, really there are a bunch that work in the same way. Drawbacks that give you an enemy, but say with effort and time you can get them to be a friend, for instance, since there are so many charisma perks. Or, say, the one in one of the MG jumps(Rising, I think?) that gives you the parasite, but doesn't stop you using telepathy. Or hell, on that note, Silenced in Pokemon if you take Psionics.
>>44498449
>Hang on, are you saying that every origin I've ever purchased gives me an Alternate-form
Down to fanwank whether every origin counts, but certainly any jump where you purchase a racial option or other form. Narnia, Forgotten Realms (ugh) and Redwall come to mind.
>>44498480
What if you don't have any companions?
>>44498480
See now I'm confused, because that was what I was assuming,I was excited by the possibility of all those different human forms.
>>44498510
Well, uh... You probably can't take that drawback, then.
Also, you must be one lonely motherfucker.
>>44498532
If you go ghost, and Possess an item, does the item count as part of your body Or are you just a ghost possessing it??
>>44498532
Wait a minute
>friends might fall back on old habits before they met you
>one of my main companions is Malefor
>another is a narcissistic self proclaimed master of the skies
>one is a horn dog who cares little for booze, battles, and booty
>another is a hesitant meek loser who has -15 self confidence
>every other companion is either a former villain or nasty mean person or a blank goddamn slate or an eldritch horror
>mfw I will probably have to fight/save every one of them 4 of them full capable of killing me
Drawbacks like this are my fatal weakness.
>>44498277
Use a soul to power it?
>>44498568
It becomes for all intents and purposes your body.
(see: Ghosts who fully possess their body die when the object is destroyed...RIP Dummy)
>>44498569
I'm not really sure what Mr Snippy would be like under that drawback.
I don't think ANYONE wants to find out.
>>44498568
Since you achieved corporeal form, I guess that counts as your body.
>>44498584
Oh crap,This has just become one of the harder choices I've had in a build, do I choose my gun,My Rollerhogg or my shield?
>>44498436
That's a bit more fatalistic then my reading. See, the drawback doesn't actually change the end condition, it just sets you up in a situation where you can't get to the end of the jump because time keeps resetting long before you get there, and since drawbacks go away at the end of the jump the reset will stop happening after you leave and time starts back up, so my "nuclear option" to solve this one if all other options were exhausted...was to act like some sort of "secret boss" and once combat starts filibuster for five straight years.
>>44498532
>Well, uh... You probably can't take that drawback, then.
Are you making this an official ruling for this jump? Because for most jump I'm pretty sure that if you wouldn't be affected by a drawback it's treated as free CP
>>44498436
>>44498616
Of course, the problem with both of these is that you have to know the drawback is in play and what it entails...
>>44498584
Would SAVE the World help manage the fused monster form of Welcome to my Special Hell? It was able to pull the Lost Souls out of the Absolute God of Hyperdeath, so I figure it should help at least a little. Not enough to undo the fusion, since drawbacks override perks, but enough to make it easier to remain coherent?
>>44498631
Yeah. No free CP.because then i can't feed on your tears
>>44498616
So your plan is tocopy Atlas Shrugged?
>>44498642
It didn't pull them out, just helped them remember who they are. That said, it'd probably help things, at least, and make it easier to reconcile who all of you are.
>>44498645
Now if you take the drawback where you and your companions are all fused and then lose it at the end of the jump would you get to keep that form, and if so would it gain you access to your companions abilities?
>>44498636
Man, if you're the kind of person who plays drawbacks like you don't know they're working, you're just straight fucked, aren't you? Instant game over.
>>44498657
Drawbacks end at the end of the jump so... No. You get the monster/whatever form you would have had if you hadn't taken that drawback.
As much as I'd like to keep answering questions, I do actually need sleep, so don't expect any more answers tonight. Ciao.
>>44497108
32. Undertale
Location: Snowdin
Origin: Drop-In, Race: Monster, Age: 18
Perks: Spare (-200), Megalovania (-300)
Magic: Bullet Patterns, Motion Magic Blue (-50), Motion Magic Orange (-50), Healing Magic (-100), Magnifying Magic (-300)
Items: Echo Flower Seeds (-100). Golden Flower Seeds (-200)
Drawbacks: The Taste is Indescribable (+100), Lost Souls (+200)
I have never played this game, and only know about it through reputation. The plan was to do a build, watch a Let's Play of it, and see how fucked I was. I rolled a d20 to see if I got the secret ending, since I don't have any urge to kill anything and making friends with everything sounded like a good and fun challenge.Nat 20.So, when I get around to making a story for this, what can I expect from the Asriel Dreemurr?
>>44498807
A bad time.
>>44498807
He's kind of a dick. He's been horribly mutated, stripped of his sense of empathy, and then looped through time over and over again. Makes him pretty nihilistic and unsympathetic to anyone. If you can undo all of that, though, restore his form, reawaken his empathy, and free him from the time loop...well, then he's just a scared, lonely kid. He'll feel really bad about the trouble he caused you, and do his best to make up for what he's done. Don't let him. He's a dumb kid, he'll think that hiding away from everyone is what he should do. Force him to interact with people again, be happy instead of sulking in his self-imposed exile.
>>44498819
Sounds about right. I only get good luck when something horrible is about to happen.
Wait so I'm confused, does that drawback require all the souls in the underground or does it require them all wishing Asriel to become himself again?
>>44498886
I think it's everyone wanting him back, combined with convincing Chara to let go and accept death instead of clinging to existence as a ghost.
>>44498853
That's... huh. That's definitely something I'd like to do, actually. And apparently what I have to do is convince this Chara entity that apparently lives in the Frisk-child to pass on his soul to the Asriel Dreemurr? While befriending everyone in the Underground?
This looks like a job for cuteness perks. I even still have 16 jumps to prepare after I finish light of terra.
>>44498139
>>44498123
>>44498164
>Companion Frisk
>Take JoJo jump
>Frisk gets a Stand
>GUESS WHO?
>>44499137
Well, it has to have a music name. So it would probably be Megalovania, even if the Stand was being controlled by Chara.
>>44498925
Elon, roughly how valuable would this be in Changeling terms?The entire Heterodyne Canon and several related artifacts from their adventures, sold directly from the head of one of the Heterodynes? What could you buy at a Goblin Market for that kind of metaphor-money?
If you Jumped Genius: the Transgression, made a huge splash in the world with scenarios, then went to Changeling and took the drawback that connects the jumps, would you have a Heterodyne canon of your own? Believe it or not, these questions are not related.
>>44499168
That actually fits with some of the theories i've read that says that Megalovania is more Chara's theme music then Sans.
>>44499380
Shit, can't believe I forgot my trip both times.
Where could I pick up some powers like Marvel's Sandman other than one piece? I know I can control sand with things like the one tail or earth bending but I want the whole package if possible.
>>44499510
Naruto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1qw6BoKYw8
>>44499566
He uh, he acknowledged the One Tail in his post Bancho.
>>44499510
Or do you want to turn into stand? because this is in fact my final form gives you a form for fighting large groups of people, you could say it's a giant sand monster or something.
>>44499585
Yeah sorry I wasn't thinking, I've only Had three hours of sleep..
>>44499586
Already used that from for something else.
Anyone else know of something that would let me turn into and move around as sand?
>>44499510
>>44499611
Also primal rage lets you choose something from mythology and a appropriate kind of magic,So sand golem? Marvel's Sandman is much More powerful Then miscellaneous meta-would be able to provide, He is really on the level of a fantastic 4 villain.
So, was thinking up perks for Yakuza Jump. Anyone see an issue with this?
Respect for the Demon (300YP): Your men are extremely loyal. You could bash an mook a couple times with a bat and your other minions would still follow your orders and respect you.
>>44499611
You can be an earth elemental in forgotten realms, and technically an earth elemental can be made of dirt, stone, gems, or whatever other similar material, sand should be fine.
>>44499723
Yeah I that covers the Made of sand part But not the sand control.
>>44499717
Sounds like it'd make more sense as a rule-by-fear perk, because at the moment it sounds like instant stockholm syndrome, just add bat to the face
>>44497108
Huh. Nice work you guys!Are y'all collaborating on Mucha Lucha too, or is that just Digger?
Drawback: Harder Monsters (1200)
Rolled Snowdin
Scientist, Dog, Age 12 (1300)
Preserverence (Free)
Dimensional Device (1100)
Megalovania (500)
Core Blueprints (300)
Human companion: Elodie (0)
This. This is...extremely irregular. It is clear that the second most dangerous threat to reality is...ourself. If even monsters can potentially use Determination, then we risk supercharging the Fallen Child with a stray thought. There is only one solution-to seal our own power by-
-well, shit. It's bloody Nintendogs all over again, they'll never let us live this down.
Either way. We shall occupy ourself by learning to cook monster food, counter-trolling the Annoying Dog and studying the nature of the SOULas well as the time machine Gaster and Sans were apparently working on. Also practice looking too scary for others to pet.
There are two things we should accomplish in the interim: Sing the Soulhymn to let the Fallen Child pass on. And use our aeons of necrobotany to restore Flowy back to his original form with Soulfire. Once we have a catalyst to reunite Asgore and Tauriel, Phase 1 will be complete.
When Frisk arrives, it behooves us to remain a distant observer, observing his "battles" from a distance. Just this corgi of static and abyssal radiance strolling around inspiring a solemn sort of determination and whatnot.
We'll meet up with Asgore before he does, break through the barrier with our A+++ Anti-Thaumaturgy NP and allow him and Frisk to take the credit. Frisk having built up a solid rapport with the monsters, we can then spearhead an initiative to allow monsters to reintegrate with society. Tauriel gets to be a teacher, Sans gets to remain a lazybones-everyone gets their happy ending. Phase 2 will be complete.
And then. Our TRUE plan can begin.
>>44499717
>Respect for the Demon (300YP): Your men are extremely loyal. You could bash an mook a couple times with a bat and your other minions would still follow your orders and respect you.
There are several jumpers who would love that perk and it seems balanced
>>44499790
There doesn’t seem to be an afterlife for human SOULs in this worlds-they just lie there in the caves under the ground. And yet-even the lingering spirit of a child who committed suicide out of spite was able to potentially bring about the end of reality. If this world is anything like our own, imagine how many wars humankind has waged against itself. Imagine how many SOULs lie scattered across the world. Imagine how many of them will be caught in Bradeline’s Well with every second.
Worst of all, genocide will not solve this. That would simply engineer an entire species of Charas.
No. The answer lies in Dissidia, and in FF13-3: Spirit Purification, and the Savior’s Eradia manipulation.
By the end of the five years’ passage, hopefully the metaphysical gravity of the Well will have drawn the SOULs of the deceased. Using our newfound knowledge, we will fashion unbreakable containers for DETERMINATION, and then /carefully/ use the Spirit Purification technique to extract that energy from all deceased humans in the world to be stored in our Warehouse. We shall then use Eradia to experiment upon the deceased SOULs to develop a maginanotech means for permanently reducing DETERMINATION in the living.
Then, we shall use our position as a totally innocuous diplomat to reduce human DETERMINATION through ostensibly innocent visits to the water supply. And the agricultural sectors. And the new eco-friendly geothermal plant we'll be offering to sponsor and build.
In short, our victory condition is to delete the concept of SAVE states altogether.
>>44499510
Have you tried the following perk combination from the Marvel jump?
Mind+Body+Kinesis(Sand)+Shapeshifiting
>>44499780
See, I don't get this. People in IRC said the same thing, but it's still limited amounts of loyalty. If you actually kill the guy your pummeling, well then that's it, your fucked.
>>44499790
>Counter-trolling Annoying Dog
No, he/she/it is simply to good at it for you to prevail Anti-Spiral!
>>44499846
Don't think that would work to the degree it needs to for what they want,Kinesis From Marvel gets weaker the more common the thing is, and sand is pretty damn common.
>>44499847
>See, I don't get this. People in IRC said the same thing, but it's still limited amounts of loyalty. If you actually kill the guy your pummeling, well then that's it, your fucked.
Well, see, maybe you should have mentioned that, rather than just saying "everyone is so loyal you could inflict massive damage on a subordinate and everyone else would still do what you want and think you're great."
>>44499803
>>
By the end of the five years’ passage, hopefully the metaphysical gravity of the Well will have drawn the SOULs of the deceased. Using our newfound knowledge, we will fashion unbreakable containers for DETERMINATION, and then /carefully/ use the Spirit Purification technique to extract that energy from all deceased humans in the world to be stored in our Warehouse. We shall then use Eradia to experiment upon the deceased SOULs to develop a maginanotech means for permanently reducing DETERMINATION in the living.
Then, we shall use our position as a totally innocuous diplomat to reduce human DETERMINATION through ostensibly innocent visits to the water supply. And the agricultural sectors. And the new eco-friendly geothermal plant we'll be offering to sponsor and build.
It's posts like this that make me wish you had a trip code so I could filter you.
>>44499803
Doesn't the Well not gather souls, just let you access the place where unclaimed souls go? That would be kind of useless in a world where souls just linger around in the same plane as they originated in. Did you make modifications to it over the years?
>>44499847
Ah, maybe make that clearer in the fluff? Provide examples of what kinda crap your made men/soldiers/assorted minions will refuse to take before abandoning ship/busting a cap in your ass?
And hey-not disputing that, but it's a way to kill time. Gotta find more data to feed that Path to Victory more data somehow, y'know?
>>44499860
It seemed like it would at least cover the 'human that can turn into an entity of living sand that manipulates sand'. Even if on a smaller scale.
>>44499922
I think you'd be barely cohesive though.
>>44499889
What, don't like seeing a mirror to your own violations of people's agency "for the greater good?"
>>44499803
I think it would be easier to instead just empower one entity to possess huge amounts of DETERMINATION and have it never use it. Only one person can control the SAVE slot at a time, so if you gave DETERMINATION to something with no will to alter the timeline it would be locked out without having to go through the trouble of performing soul-surgery on the entire human species.
>>44499723
I've used that too unfortunately.
>>44499846
A good idea, but my Marvel cp went towards me shapeshifting into adamantium.
I suppose I should say that I do have some seriously good earth bending so I'm fine on the controlling sand front, I just want a way to turn into it and move around.
>>44499876
Now, that isn't what the perk says. It says that if you hit someone with a bat a couple times, your minions will still loyally follow your orders and respect you.
>>44499929
I generally don't violate people's agency though, I'm all about expanding agency. Brush God of revolution,Horsemen of choice remember?
>>44499935
Yeah but it doesn't say the limits, and that can kill them depending on How weak they are.
>>44499948
I don't think you understand what brush gods are.
I also think you have forgotten your own plans if you think you don't impede agency.
>>44499905
Truth be told-we did, in FF13-3, devise a great working of Lumen Sage magic and focused Eradia and good ol' DF-style thaumaturgy to set up a bigass magic circle in the Well girded by arcane speakers to play a cover of the Soulsong we modified for preservation instead of annihilation for a separate apocalypse contingency. It's still there, and we do tweak it everynow and then.
It's quite similar to this case, actually-we weren't sure if the passage of souls into Chaos in FF13-3 counted as a separate afterlife or not. As we understand from stuff Babs mentioned a while ago, the Well draws in souls that don't have a claim from a proper afterlife, so we figured the ones lingering around would eventually sort of drift into the Well after a long time?
Either way-we do have that as a contingency amongst other things like the Double Deity. Undertale SOULs seem unique enough that we'll have to play it by ear, expect the worst and be prepared for the best.
>>44499961
>I also think you have forgotten your own plans if you think you don't impede agency.
The ultimate liberty zone? how would that impede people's choices?
>>44499948
>I generally don't violate people's agency though, I'm all about expanding agency.
Yet your somehow okay with a power that removes the agency of almost everyone else in that reality.
What agency do you have when at any moment someone could decide that everything you did within a certain time period(along with everyone and everything else) never happened, or decide to kill you and torture you over and over again for fun, or anything related to making it so that your actions only matter if they let them matter?
>>44499932
See...that's the trouble right there. We're. Firstly, we're not sure if there's any one candidate in the world we'd fully trust with that sort of responsibility apart from Frisk. Secondly, it seems that since the power of SAVE states are posessed by the most DETERMINED human at any given time, couldn't it default to someone more violent when Frisk dies?
Now, we could make Frisk immortal-but that raises a whole bunch of other issues. What if Frisk pulls a Qilby/Flowy after centuries of immortal lifespan? Even if he's a legitimitely good person, someone with all that DETERMINATION would surely gain /some/ ambitions after a while.
>>44499989
>What agency do you have when at any moment someone could decide that everything you did within a certain time period(along with everyone and everything else) never happened, or decide to kill you and torture you over and over again for fun, or anything related to making it so that your actions only matter if they let them matter?
What the hell are you talking about?
>>44499935
There's some slight paraphrasing, but it's all there.
everyone is so loyal
>Your men are extremely loyal
you could inflict massive damage on a subordinate
>You could bash an mook a couple times with a bat
and everyone else would still do what you want
>your other minions would still follow your orders
and think you're great.
>and respect you.
Admittedly, "everyone" might be a bit too shortened; "everyone that works for you" was the intended implication of "loyal" there.
>>44499948
>I generally don't violate people's agency though
Bancho, you are all about coming into settings and using your powers to force everyone to do what you think they should want to do. Usually with little to no thought of consequences.
>>44500003
You're thinking about this the wrong way. You don't just trust someone to use the power wisely, you create something that can't not use the power wisely and give it to them. Are you honestly telling me you can't design a psyche such that it channels DETERMINATION into a determination to not let the timeline be changed, and that can't become corrupted? I think you've got a good enough knowledge of psychodesign by now to do that.
>>44500006
That's what the power you are complaining about ASA removing does.
>>44500006
In Undertale Saving and Loading is an in setting power caused by DETERMINATION that one person gets.
A.k.a. this is a power that lets one random person reset time whenever they want even if they get killed.
>>44500027
Mainly in Humanitarian aid/Bringing equality Ways though. These folks don't have alternatives and I'm giving them choices they would not have had I not Intervened.
>>44500050
>>44500054
Yes but it's also a power that lets you keep trying until you get things right, It lets you get at second Chance if you've done something That would otherwise be irreversible and redeemable. its a Tool,Neither good or evil. ASA Is just being a whiny baby about The power of hot blood and Spoiling everyone's Good time by trying to basically be TASE
>>44500036
...y'know? That is a good question. Truth be told, when you put it that way several ideas do spring to mind-Diver Alchemy to create birth a being from our own mind. App Master to synthesise a virtual lifeform of some sort, with certain EVO perks to ensure loyalty. Just building a sentient sink for DETERMINATION with Anartist, equip it with a copy of our own personality a la the Matrix and burying it under thick lead or something.
It's an intriguing idea at the least, and we will take it under consideration given we'll be leaving behind the usual artificial moon to oversee the world anyway.
Our main concern is...well. You know when Simon snapped Nia out of her Anti-Spiralness with words alone? Well, if the Asriel Dremurr battle is any indication-0.000001% is just as good as 100% to any sufficiently DETERMINED human.
We could engineer it to be utterly solipsistic and lack senses of any kind and be unable to communicate with anything else, but a degree of sapience is needed to experience DETERMINATION so-we're just worried about margins for error, however small. We're looking for a long term solution here, and this is the kind of force you don't take half measures against y'know?
>>44499948
True, i didn't give exact limits.
This any better?
Respect for the Demon (300YP): Your men are extremely loyal. You could bash an mook a couple times with a bat and your other minions would still follow your orders and respect you. Do note though, that this has it's limits. If you actually kill them, then all bets are off.
>>44500082
>and I'm giving them choices they would not have had I not Intervened.
Candlesticks aren't much of a choice. Do you ever accept anyone's choice to boot you the fuck out of their world?
>Yes but it's also a power that lets you keep trying until you get things right, It lets you get at second Chance if you've done something That would otherwise be irreversible and redeemable. its a Tool
A tool that one single person gets access to, that by its very nature works by trivialising the agency of everyone else. Every time it is used, it is essentially killing everyone else in the world, removing their experiences, reactions and choices.
>>44500131
No one gets candlestick'd In the ultimate liberty zone,People cannot be candlestick'd in the ultimate liberty zone that's part of the point of the ultimate liberty zone!
So like Almost any Change made Via time travel ever. No, what he should be doing is trying to get everyone access to that tool, we know You can replicated because the Funny and nice skeleton with the cute brother has it In addition to the weirdly Untalkative Androgynous kid with the disturbingly age inappropriate behavior.
>>44500126
I think permanent injury would be a better benchmark, because as worded this would technically let you flay people alive, rub bot flie maggots into their naked flesh and stitch them into a human centipeded and they'd still be "loyal" to you so long as you don't kill them.
Couple hard knocks or a smack to the face=OK, maybe even broken arms if the disobedience is serious or the victim's unpopular, as long as you also pay for their slings or reset their arms promptly afterwords Venom Snake-style.
>>44500082
It's also a power that let's you undo everyone's accomplishments until they only know failure and lossOr until you decide to kill everyone to see what would happen and end up having to sell your soul to a ghost child turned eldritch horror to get it to restore the world. At which point your stuck at horrible outcomes..
Remember getting the best outcome doesn't remove the chance of it being used, and once you use it get the best outcome the negatives are all that's left.
Also how did everyone have a good time if the good time never happened for most people?
Also consider this. Let's say someone had the power to SAVE and was capable of waiting long term.
Now let's say they gained it before your parents were born, and decide to threaten to Load from the beginning of you do not do absolutely everything they tell you do, thus erasing you from existence.
Would your agency be anything more than an illusion?
>>44500194
Oh for fuck's sake-why are you defending the ultimate liberty zone?
The ultimate liberty zone is bad, and you should feel bad about it.
Also, you simply do not have the capability to pull it off.
Don't make me go and link the archived threads where people very, very carefully explained the above to you ad nauseum.
>>44500217
Again time travel,You'll notice he's removing the source of the power and not The power Itself. ASA is being a Whiny baby trying to copycat And even More whiny baby,Also remember that this has been a fixture of this universe for Forever, how the hell did people cope with it so far? Why doesn't Fisk just reload from before They fell into the hole? There's no reason to permanently decrease everyone in the world's willpower forever
>>44500199
Alright, this should be good, shouldn't it?
Respect for the Demon (300YP): Your men are extremely loyal. You could bash an mook a couple times with a bat and your other minions would still follow your orders and respect you. Do note though, that this has it's limits. If you actually kill them, or do any other sort of similarly reprehensible act to them, then all bets are off.
>>44500194
>No, what he should be doing is trying to get everyone access to that tool
And how would that work.
>>44500259
And I'm not trying to pull it off anymore, I'm just saying If it did exist people Would it not get candlestick'd There.
>>44500265
I don't know! but it's generally what I try to do with these things.
>>44500265
It wouldn't.
This is a recurring flaw in every single plan Bancho has ever come up with, which he can only address by blatently ignoring how things actually work in canon
>>44500194
The difference being that in most cases the time traveler is not immune to the consequences of the changes, and can't just go 'Doesn't count' whenever they screw up.
In the settings where the time travelers are immune their effectively the only entities with true free will.
>>44500290
>it's generally what I try to do with these things
Well since your plans are universally reviled, incompetant and terrible, it sounds like ASA is a true champion of justice, the hero of man and a real human being.
>>44500306
>checks the build again
Well, corgi in this case. Close enough.
>>44500262
Frankly, it's sparse as shit. Fully half of the description of what the perk actually does is tacked on exceptions after people pointed out how ridiculously vague and unlimited it was. How about just writing a perk description that conveys what the perk actually does?
>>44500290
>I don't know!
Exactly.
>>44500292
And I'm not trying to,I'm just going to try and get the people who do on the side of good.
>>44500299
No see the thing about choice is that choices can be limited but they Almost never are absent even stuck in a block of concrete with nothing to do but drowned you can choose what you think about with your final moments.
>>44500306
Ad hominem fallacy right there
>>44500323
That's why I don't Plan on trying
>>44500261
>You'll notice he's removing the source of the power and not The power Itself.
Well how else would you remove a power that's only details are 'this thing called DETERMINATION' let's you do it?
>how the hell did people cope with it so far?
Considering the outcome of the genocide route probably luck.
>There's no reason to permanently decrease everyone in the world's willpower forever
The fact that monsters lack determination either implies only humans have will power, or that it's not will power.
Considering all of the other stuff with questionably accurate names, the later seems more likely.
>>44500334
>you can choose what you think about with your final moments.
Actually, you almost certainly can't. Panic, adrenaline, all that shit.
>Ad hominem fallacy right there
... Really, Bancho? Really? How so?
>>44500346
I wouldn't put it past Bancho to assume LOVE can be recharged with hugs and kisses or EXP to be able to be gained from things not related to killing shit though, given what he's approved of doing in the past
>>44500334
You do realise bitching at other Jumpers is one of many things that lowers your estimation in the threads, right?
Well. Looks like Bancho's Blasphemous Blunders got an early release on the new year. And he hasn't even technically committed any Blasphemous Blunders either. Just meta ones, but Meta Blunders sounds less catchy.
Either way. For the sake of having something happier to talk about today, Sans can dodge through turns in his boss fight, right? Now, obviously fighting him is a bad idea but just curious-how would that actually look to you fighting him? Would it be like a time stop or some shit?
>>44500346
>Well how else would you remove a power that's only details are 'this thing called DETERMINATION' let's you do it?
It's in all capitals,It probably has nothing to do with actual determination. love in all capitals is Level Of ViolencE,Does that have anything to do with love?
>>44500354
You think He's okay because I'm worse.
>>44500370
I get mad when people are Dicks,Pretty sure that's normal. This is a game of ludicrous power fantasy, his ludicrous power fantasy is to be one of the biggest possible Dicks.
And I stopped caring what anons Think before this was even a thing.
>>44500394
>I stopped caring what anons think before this was even a think
That's fair enough, just don't ever expect anyone to agree with you on anything ever with that attitude.
>you think he's okay because you're worse
Well...yes? I mean. You're literally easily the worst thing still lurking around in these threads. That's not a big accomplishment.
>>44500394
So your worried will power will be removed instead of this probably completely unrelated thing ASA said their going to try removing?
>>44500394
>I stopped caring
Newsflash: You're not well liked, and your opinions are distrusted above all else. I'd have thought you'd hvae learned this ages ago.
>>44500424
Tsundere anon wouldn't want you talking about his husbando Bancho like that anon
>>44499510
Changeling Elemental Contracts have you covered. Just take Contract of the Elements (Sand) 5•.
>>44500262
I'd consider beating them up reprehensible, but that might just be me.
Also, 'a' mook not 'an' mook.
>>44500438
It's all good, everyone's waifus are shitbut some waifus are more shit than others
>>44500425
I think Bancho has an allergy to basic logic.
>>44499510
Endless Legend. Go full Ardent, tweak the tech a little-and get ready to get Dust-y.
>>44500425
Isn't that what he was trying to do? If so I must apologize to everyone for this ruckus.
>>44500437
well yeah,You think I don't know that? You people have tried to murder me.
>>44500464
You don't have have to tell me anon, he dumped the fortress of arrogance for bancho.
>>44500464
Would Dust actually be able to do that? I'd love it if I could use it like that, I have a big soft spot for Dust.
Respect for the Demon (300YP): Your men are extremely loyal. Taking some tips from the famous and charismatic Goro Majima, you've raised the loyalty of your minions enough that you could hit a mook with a bat, and they would still loyally follow your orders and respect you. This has its limits though; If you kill them or commit another similarly reprehensible act on them, then all bets are off.
>>44500460
Well, beating them up is bad, but on the same level killing them, or, as that one Anon suggested, turning them into a human centipede?
>>44500468
>>44500476
I refuse to believe that Anti-Fortress-Kun and Fortress-Chan's love could be ruined by this shithead, the power of shounen plot will triumph just as surely as the next generation of waifus will be shit
>>44500489
I...I think? I mean, I'm not all familiar with Endless Legend stuff, but since those Broken Lord guys are basically made of Dust and since it behaves like regular dust in some of the perks I think you could pull it off with other nanotech perks? Not gona lie, kinda out of my depth here
>>44500468
Don't bother, we'll be waiting to shit on you when next you do something terrible.
It must hurt for you to know people will always take ASA's word over yours no matter how much you whine about him.
>>44500508
>It must hurt for you to know people will always take ASA's word over yours no matter how much you whine about him.
Hey he knows his shit, I never said you should take my word over his on a matter of planning.
I just think he's a genuinely awful person who should be looked down upon otherwise.
>>44500508
>Dust
Good point. Guess I'll look into that if I don't find some way to turn into normal sand. Thanks.
>>44500521
Oh no, he's a much better person than you.
>>44500508
He even pretended to be working on a jump and said he would cancel it and was pretending to be other anons so anons would stop talking about it.
>>44500533
He is literally the anti-spiral.
>>44500535
I wasn't pretending,Here's the WIP
>>44500535
Or did you mean this one? Again WIP
>>44500560
>>44500582
Not you bancho I was talking about tsundere anon you were decent that thread
>>44500560
>>44500582
>that formatting
>that second one that is clearly your magical realm
Yeah, no. I for one am glad you never finished either of those.
And yes, you are literally despised that much.
>>44500468
The post with ASA's plan to remove it has DETERMINATION written in all caps.
>>44500394
Frankly Bancho as someone who has been in the IRC frequently the Names think the same of you. It's just not worth putting a name on to talk to you because you're just a retard who ruins everything he touches. Why do you think you got banned from IRC and nobody raised a fuss?
>>44500598
Hey I'm working with cheap tools that don't have instructions to how to format nicely and the other one is not a Lewd jump,Or original content.
>>44500603
Again I'm running on three hours of sleep.
>>44500614
You think I want to be here either? I'd love to be able to quit this game!
>>44500616
If your tired enough that you can use that excuse legitimately. You probably shouldn't be using a computer.
>>44500614
Truly the wretchedness of Bancho brings us all closer, whether namefriend or anon. It's like that one dysfunctional family who rallies together against the creepy uncle.
>>44500616
Go the fuck to sleep then, you won't be missed.
>>44500636
Close the tab.
Get another hobby; go grind your character on Fallen London or something.
Accept that you'll never achieve anything meaningful in Jumpchain apart from getting shit on by all comers.
It's really that simple.
>>44500636
Then go do some stupid shit to get a ban and then clearly evade the ban. Congrats, you're permabanned from 4chan and everyone will be happier with your passing. Maybe put up a thread advocating genociding one of the many nations you have no understanding of.
>>44500582
>600 CP perk
>"u da bess at science 4ever!!!!!"
I'm glad you never finished this.
>>44500646
I've tried I've tried all of those things they don't work.
>>44500666
It's a wip, Balancing gets done after everything else And the science in the world is ridiculous.
>>44500675
Wow, it really says something about your jump design principles that you consider balance something to slap on at the end.
>>44500675
Go talk to whoever's responsible for wiping your autistic retard ass in real life, have them shut off your internet access.
And gievn your track record with other stuff, I'd be surprised if you could articulate it any better.
>>44500712
That would be me, I live independently.
>>44500636
>>44500675
If you wanted to leave you would have done so. You're not magically compelled to be here. Stop using 'I want to leave but can't' as an excuse, it doesn't mean anything.
>>44500743
Dude I'm saying I'm literally addicted.
>>44500750
We know what you're saying but what you say rarely means very much and it's a total cop out.
Leave or don't, if you don't it's because you don't want to but please spare us the melodrama.
>>44500750
Seriously, just do one of the various things to get banned permanently. If you search the internet you can find plenty, and it solves your problem and ours quite elegantly.
>>44500838
I still want to use the rest of The site though
So any news on that new Animal Crossing Jump that was mentioned in the IRC the other day?
Are there any other jumps with items where you could pick up corporations like in DC and Resident Evil? I want to have a megacorp that follows me around without having to go through the trouble of making them over and over.
>>44501124
Apparently made by the two who made the FTL Jump and is undergoing edits+Happy Home Designer stuffs since they never intended for it to be used by others after being advised it'd be a shitstorm.
>>44501216
I think Gargoyles may have one?
>>44501124
what do you mean New animal crossing jump? we already have an animal crossing jump! I know, I made it!
>>44501216
Sherlock Holmes, sort of? How d'you feel about criminal empires?
I think 9-5 has some smaller scale franchises too
>>44501277
And its completely shit.
>>44501291
So are a lot of other jumps,I'm saying there are rules to this sort of thing
>>44501227
Yeah that perk tree would come in handy, thanks!
>>44501279
Thanks! Now I have a shadowy empire that can be used a staging ground to control crime.
>>44501296
Are you really that surprised you've alienated, ostracized and antagonised everyone to the point where they'd make an exception for you?
>>44501296
Yeah, but no one likes you so while at least one of the two was hesitant about giving out their jump hopefully we'll start to see your trash replaced.
>>44501313
This is a slippery slope, yes I know That is a fallacy but you just watch
>>44501328
Well, if it's a slope that ends with you sliding right off the internet?
Worth it.
And before you get any conspiracy theories-I'm not even in the IRC at the moment. I'm just sick of watching you eat up posts with your self-pitying bullshit.
>>44501326
But I like the Animal crossing jump.Even if everything is too expensive
>>44501326
>>44501358
It's like this , either the rules apply to everyone or they're not really rules,People Let the PDF
Hellblazer jump on the drive And that's a lot worse than anything I ever made and probably an intentional Troll.
>>44501374
Thank you, sorry about that things are supposed to be expensive since it's so restful,It's really a leftover from when it was based on 100 points and I was trying to formalize vacation jumps.
>>44501374
I don't know what's happening, but maybe it'll end up like the Metapocalypse jumps?
>>44501430
>Hellblazer
...the one thing that I despise more than your work is still on the drive?
FOR FUCK'S SAKE, WHY HAVEN'T WE KICKED THAT SHIT OFF.
>>44501449
I don't know either!
>>44501439
The Metapocalypse jumps Are a result of two anons Developing And deploying the same idea simultaneously Without realizing it ,completely different situation.
>>44501439
From what was mentioned the other day, there are three perk paths - shopkeeper, civil servant, and villager and there being HHD stuff added before they showed it to anyone who asked in the IRC for it. That's about all we know as of yet.
Considering the people making it, it'll probably be very companion friendly though.
>>44501313
>>44501326
Out of curiosity are Mib's jumps replaceable now since a lot them are worse than some of Tera's, or is the rule going to be 'No replacements unless you annoy the entire thread' now?
>>44501449
For reference of how bad that jump is the writer used an entirely different name for the origin and the 'discounted for perks'.
Which means getting the discounts the origin is probably supposed to have might count as fanwank
>>44501511
I suspect the latter, all things considered. The former smacks a bit of speaking ill of the dead, or something along those lines. And practically speaking at least one of his jumps-I think it was Bleach?-is still ongoing and nonsensical. Unless it was someone else who was working on Bleach, and I'm confused.
Either way. Doesn't seem worth the hassle, to my mind; I personally prefer mib's staleness to Tera's overall wretchedness
I just can't get over the mandatory companion death. Every. Fucking. Time.
.
>>44500394
>You think He's okay because I'm worse.
Yes, and? That doesn't make it an ad hominem fallacy, that's just the magic of context. Compared to a candle, fireplaces are hot. Compared to a nuclear reactor undergoing a meltdown, fireplaces are cold.
Compared to you, ASA is a beacon of sane, tasteful restraint and comforting stability.
>>44501511
I would go with the latter. Assuming this is a thing we're doing it probably requires an overwhelming thread consensus on a case-by-case basis. Like pretty damn near 90% of the /jc/ community would have to be on board with it. Every time.
Tera's gone far beyond annoyance. Most of the people here actively hate or are disgusted by him. I doubt anyone is going to defend him, and the people who would are more likely concerned with the precedence it could set than anything for tera himself.
>>44501555
I think Mib was the one who did Bleach, yeah. But I could also be wrong. I didn't really pay attention honestly.
There's a vocal subset of posters who would love a new Bleach jump, but even they generally tell people to wait until the manga's done, because Kubo's a hack who throws power levels at everything.
Can we not do this stupid crap? It's stupid watching this all happen when we've got a good jump going on. Just ignore him. Seriously. Not hard to ignore him. Filter him.
>>44497108
-Background: Scientist (Free) -I'm gonna learn ALL the things.
-Race: Boss Monster (800CP) -RAAAAAAAAWR.
-Perseverance (Free) -Always learn from mistakes. Always.
-Analytical (700CP) (Discount) -Wheeee! Learn from technology!
-Here We Are (400CP) (Discount) -This... is scary. But learning is only proper.
-Bullet Patterns (Free) -I... guess? Huh.
-Fire Magic (Free) -Oh this is kind of scary.
-MTT-Brand Always-Convenient Human SOUL Substitute (0CP) -I... am going to study this. A lot.
Dice Rolls: Waterfall, 130 years old
-End Choice: Next Adventure
It's... actually pretty simple here? Just study. I study what I have and make it very VERY clear I don't wanna mess with anyone. It's a little iffy, but well... research! Gonna try and figure some things out.
And then what?
Well. Maybe some pizza or something. I really, really want things to turn out well.
>>44501734
>pizza
>not spaghetti
>>44501752
Spoiler Alert:I spill too much spaghetti to be trusted with eating it.
>>44501787
Well that's not new Red.
>>44501787
...y'know what, fair enough. I can't picture you as a goat thing though. Unless you're rocking the generic vidya succubus look (sans leather straps and metal bikini, I trust) with bigass horns on your head like a proper demoness.
Also...100+ years old? I don't...it just feels wrong. I know you're probably both the same age in terms of having existed but it just seems wrong for Anti-Spiral to be an old-ish corgi and you to be this century-old goat thing.
Yer blowing my mind, mang.inb4 SOUL substitute is actually bits chipped off from SOULs that couldn't re-fuse properly, and you're thus technically breaking your own rule of not dabbling in bonafide soul shit
>>44501511
>Out of curiosity are Mib's jumps replaceable now since a lot them are worse than some of Tera's, or is the rule going to be 'No replacements unless you annoy the entire thread' now?
It's more like you should just make the replacement and post it. Don't talk about making it, don't make a huge deal of it - and if it's better (which is not hard in this case, but it should actually be *good*) then after the shitstorm dies down it'll either replace the trash or not.
Either way, we'll finally know how everyone will actually react.
Basically: Force the issue.
>>44501861
>Well that's not new Red.
>mfw
>>44501865
Eh, what's wrong with trying something new? I don't mind doing different things. Admittedly I WAS going to go for Fallen Human, but to get the perks I wanted would mean I'd have to take drawbacks. Aaaaaaaaand for Undertale I am NOT going to risk that. I am going full on 100% Pacifist Route here.
So really, I'm okay with looking like a goat thing.There are many ways to study souls without actually touching them. If I have to be hands-off, so be it. I'm not as comfy with murder and soulrape like some people.
>>44501787http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/42866966/#42867821
>”Though Lycans were fewer in number, the war itself had become more perilous for the moon no longer held her sway.”
>”Older, more powerful Lycans were now able to change at will. The weapons had evolved, but our orders remained the same:”
“Hunt them down and kill them off, one by one.”
>“Hunt them down and kill them off, one by one.”
>”. . .”
“. . . sorry.”
>”A most successful campaign. Perhaps too successful.“
>”For those like me, a Death Dealer... “
“EEEEEeeeeeeee”
>”Look. I’ve accepted that you are going to follow me. I’ve come to terms with the fact that I cannot kill you, but please be quiet.”
“I-I’m sorry . . .sempai”
>” For those like me, a Death Dealer... “
“. . . eeeee. . .”
>”. . . this signaled the end of an era.”
>>44501936
Both adorable and hilarious.
>>44501934
Something you said earlier's been sticking with me. You seem like one of the more reasonable Jumpers out there.
So why do you think gods are intrinsically better than mortals? I don't believe for a second you approve of the Olympians. Or the Chaos Gods. Or Nyarlathotep.
>>44501936
>>44501975
No. NOOOOOO. STOP SHAMING ME. We all have our guilty pleasures! The things we still giggle at and enjoy from our past! STAAAAAHP.
>>44501979
...ho boy. So I'm going to ask people to take this with a grain of salt? Feel free to ignore this shit or whatever.You're right. But respect doesn't equal liking them. You can still respect a hurricane for its power and force while hating the shit out of it for the damage it does. The two terms are not exactly bed buddies.
It's really hard to explain why I feel that way. But in a sense... it's like how a person views the sun? It's witnessing a primordial force of the world or existence itself. It's a force that's more in tune with the world than your average mortal, they're entities that are timeless (usually), immortal. They know so much about the world, can gaze into life after death. Even entities so small as to be a local temple deity have so much to offer. For me, it's hard NOT to be in awe and respect them.
I understand that I'm likely looking into things way too much. Or giving them too much credit. That could easily be the case. But while I don't have to like them, I still do at minimum respect them for what they do and their place in their worlds. It's why I'm always so tied up in a knot every time the issue is forced, like with FFXIV when my hesitation to mess with souls let them summon ZODIARK of all things.
>>44502110
Never your tears of suffering feed us.
>>44502110
If we push your buttons, Red, it is only because you light up and make fun noises. Also, I was giddy as fuck when you updated Macross, so I understand fan-related pleasures.
>>44502110
And that Somehow doesn't make you want To Usurp them? And you're not angry at them for the state of the world(s)? I mean you can kill a hurricane With a nuke,And you know you're also describing true Fae in changeling right? and you know you are a goddess right? Also that In tune with primal Existence thing is its own perk in Lord of light. Please tell me what I'm missing.
>>44502110
I guess that kinda makes sense. I mean it's pretty dumb in the case of FF deities which are universally incompetant or omnicidal, but at the very least I can understand thinking "big thing, whoa. Fireworks" at some being with a bonafide claim.
And I take it you'd actually find one not being empowering, if your comments about not wanting to be a bun-I mean, moon goddess and on ASA having to treat reality like an RTS? So you prefer to watch 'em do their thing, but not actually be one.
>>44502110
Speaking of guilty pleasures
Has anyone here ever nerded out, freaked out, or just general giddiness when you jumped into a jump you know?
>>44502219
>what I'm missing
Going away forever because nobody wants to listen to your stupid powerwanking. As in, yours in particular.
>>44500616
Strange thing is I'm probably using the exact same tools as you are and somehow I manage to make half ass jumps.
>>44502260
Surely they can't be that bad, compared to Bancho's work? Unless you're mib I don't recall anyone else's work being anywhere near as frustrating to read.
>>44501430
>I was trying to formalize vacation jumps
Please don't ever try to formalize anything again. If I had to make a vacation jump according to that standard it'd be painful.
>>44502260
you use open office?
>>44502299
yeah I know that now.
>>44502289
I think he was implying that his are half arsed to Bancho's arseless.
>>44502244
Once in LotR I just squee'd at everything. Aragorn was pretty confused when he met a giddy elf that just kept smiling while helping them to Rivendell.
>>44502244
YES. YES I HAVE. Pokemon, a lot of Final Fantasy games, Kim Possible, Megaman X, Spiral Knights... half my reason for jumping is visiting all kinds of places and giggling like an idiot over it.
>>44502184
Damn it, why. But I'm glad Macross was able to make you happy!Bayonetta update and Indiana Jones jump this month.
>>44502240
>So you prefer to watch 'em do their thing, but not actually be one.
This. Right fucking here, THIS. This practically sums it up. Am I envious of them sometimes? Sure. Have I daydreamed at times? You bet. But sometimes wanting is better than having, and I sure as hell know I don't trust myself ever reaching that state.
>>44502244
>nerded out
"AW YISSS POKEMON I'MMA BE A TRAINER NOW SHIT YEAH!"
>freaked out
"Oh. I appear to be in 40K. Without my powers."
*Panic.exe*
>just general giddiness
"Morrowind heeeeeeee!"
>>44502317
I've found open office to be easier to use in some cases, especially for formatting documents that are over a certain size. I just don't use the odt format as a final save copy since I use word's pdf converter in the end. Sometimes I make final edit checks for visual presentation in word, other times I wait for the pdf to do trimming. Honestly word processing and formatting isn't difficult to learn.
>>44502335
Eh, that's fair enough. Apart from ASA and maybe a few others I don't think a lot of folks think look too deeply into conceptual stuff beyond a vague sort of powerlevels thing. Folks seem to prefer tech-
>Bayonetta and Indiana Jones
niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
>>44502335
Really dreading The Bayonetta update.
>>44502373
I only have open office,And I don't really know anything about it because I haven't been able to find much about It online.
>>44502404
>Really dreading The Bayonetta update.
Much like Micronesia, you're allowed to exist but don't assume that gives you a say in shit.
>>44502335
>spoiler
Hyyyyyyyyype.
>>44502404
Frankly I never needed to use anything online with open office. When I ran ubuntu OS open office was pretty much the only thing I had available, and it's straightforward enough to learn just from trial and error. Once you make a suitable template to begin with, it's easy to just refine it as you go through cycles of production. You don't even need to be making jumps to practice with it, I was writing papers and reports on the side when I made a lot of my jumps. Granted I've made like three times the amount of jumps you have so I guess I've had more practice? I dunno, point is word processing isn't something you need to go online to learn.
>>44502404
>Has trouble with Open Office
Actually retarded.
>>44502690
Tell that to my 2.90 GPA
>>44497108
I did not expect to see this when I woke up this morning.
https://youtu.be/usfiAsWR4qU
So, one question about Pokemon Conquest.
How would the world react to a bunch of Pokemon fighting on their own to create a small niche nation by Pokemon, for Pokemon?Because it's my 3rd Jump and I want to know if this is a viable plan.
>>44502244
I did that in Twilightbecause I took the drawback that makes you do that.
>>44502716
>2.9
RETARD
>>44499934
If you take it with adamantine and vibranium would that be 2 layers of metal of a different transformation?
Since I was bored of my main chain I wanted to see how much a traumatic chain I could go before RNGesus kills me. Hilariously enough I managed to survive Bloodborne as my first jump, Dark Souls as my second, and Demon's Souls as my third. What are some jumps that are pretty traumatising on the level of Ravenloft and Commoragh?
And just to mess with myself after this line up of traumatic jumps it's going to be nothing but friendly jumps like Generic Sugar Bowl and Nichijou before I dive back into horror jumps.
>>44502716
I think you should be old enough to recognize that GPA isn't a reflection of anything substantial.
>>44502439
>>44502690
>>44502761
Please just ignore him.
>>44502716
And that's after how much upwards adjustment to make up for your issues? Along with some more for affirmative action and all that bullcrap.
>>44502781
Lovecraft
>>44502813
The only adjustment I get is a Scribe for my find motor disorder And financial aid
>>44502807
This. Give him the Mommy treatment. Does anyone know if making a thread your personal blog a reportable offence?
>>44502781
Dark Sun. Forgotten Realms (both in that it's a shitty setting, and the available drawbacks). Zombie Apocalypse. Changeling. Narnia, with the right drawbacks. Twilight.
>>44502909
What I noticed this thread is that no matter what bancho says anons reply to him just like tsundere anon
>>44502753
I'm guessing that's a no, then?
Gif hopefully unrelated.
>>44502244
>Quotes from times when I was most excited to be in a specific jump.
>Pokemon Trainer
"Oh my gosh the multiverse is real, that entity really sent me to another universe, I have a pokemon! Am I dreaming?"
>Transformers
"Optimus, you know I love you and respect you and I think you're a great leader. But we need to kill Megatron and Starscream right now."
>DC
"Batman can I have your autograph?"
>>44499790Mucha Lucha's just me, I put it on hold to try and push myself through with Kid Radd's Gear update...which is still coming, but I'm feeling agony trying to price and balance all the Code items, as well as making sure there's a representative spread of pre-3D Heroes, Villains and Genres.
>>44502244
Bastion and RWBY were big early "FUCK YES" moments, for sure. I had to hide and make sure my freakouts weren't audible to the characters...at least for Bastion. RWBY was more me trying not to fanboy over what in-universe just another group of students, whilst trying to undo the ravages of the White Fang by acting as a return to the more peaceful and progressive methods before.
Does it count as fanboying if you troll the heroes? Cause if so, Gundam arc was pretty great about that as well
>>44502781
>Platoon
>Dead Space
>Light of Terra
>>44497108
Undertale
> Location: Ruins [Rolled1]
> Background: Scientist
> Race: Temmie [+200CP]
> + Hi, I'm Bob [-200CP]
> Age: Temmie [RolledTemmie]
> Summon Annoying Dog [What the fuck...?]
> Blessing of Toby Fox [-100CP]
> Perseverance [Get a Freebie!]
> DETERMINATION [-100CP]
> Analytical [-100CP]
> Dimensional Device [-200CP]
> Here We Are [-300CP]
> Bullet Patterns [Get a Freebie!]
> Electric Magic [-50CP]
> You're Blue Now [-200CP]
> Magnifying Magic [-300CP]
> College Fund [-50CP]
> Camera System [-100CP]
> Lost Souls [+200CP]
> I'm Not Ready To Let Go [+300CP]
I woke up under a tree, in front of a house, whose branches were long bare. That is where my jump began.
The Ruins are quite small, once you get used to them. I did befriend Toriel by helping her with minor things, it wasn't very hard (she seemed lonely?), but it wasn't very long before I wanted to leave. She didn't really try to stop me.
I squeezed through a crack in the door like an amorphous sponge. Shapeshifting is cool. I used a minor variant to be bipedal when needed. Absolutely nobody found this odd. Although one time someone did say something like, "Man, Temmies are WEIRD."
I joined the Human Fanclub when I saw a poster for it, and became friends with Alphys and Mettaton. Mettaton had a different name back then, but he later made us promise not to use it.
I became the assistant royal scientist, under Alphys! I spent a lot of time studying the Core, after that. Sortof... lost touch with her, after.
>>44502781
Nechronica
>>44503127
I learned most of the magic types. Not the soul manipulation stuff, but the other kinds. How? I... just asked Asgore. He's, like, the nicest guy. Just a big goober. Totally made time to train me. For like an hour two or three times a week. We also did a lot of gardening. And cooking. Asgore is not a very good cook.
I am pretty shit at fire magic. If I try to cook with it, stuff ends up burnt outside and still frozen inside. Can't control the temp at all. Might as well be cooking with normal bullets. I can make magic electrical stoves, though, so that's almost as good.
As for Frisk...
As far as I'm aware, there was never a True Reset. I did sneak into Sans' special room and put an invisible magic jumpdrive in there containing a bunch of information that was periodically updated, and as far as I'm aware Sans never found it and it was never modified by anyone other than me.
As far as I'm aware.
I installed cameras at every save point. Which I couldn't really see, but this is after Youtube, so I had a copy of the game to reference. I also put them in the elevators around the Core. Every elevator. Those cameras in particular were set to beep me if Frisk showed up.
I also rigged the elevators up with powerful remote explosives.
So...
Yeah.
As for regular resets, there were... a lot of those.
There were a lot of timelines that abruptly ended with the power getting knocked out for a section of the Underground.
Talked to Flowey a lot.
He figured things out REAL quick.
>>44503148
>Teddy Konata
Awww how adorable.
>>44503148
Basically, any timeline that had the risk of being a True Pacifist Ending met an abrupt and sudden wall in the form of sakuradite-powered explosions. Most of the time this was as simple as blowing up Alphys's elevator in particular, but occasionally it involved other elevators. Emergency situations could be dealt with via a combination of portals and Magnified Blue Soul Magic. I also set up a series of high end explosive devices in the initial Ruins' room, but as far as I'm aware I never used them.
Alternately, I built a little house for Frisk in Waterfall (it was originally my house, but I don't really need a house, so I just handed it over). We had some conversations, including Exactly One Date(?), which was mostly me getting overly philosophical and navel gazing.
In the end, I kindof, over a period of... a long time... gradually let slip the nature of jumping and my role, such that, while they didn't really know EVERY DETAIL, Flowey and Frisk were both aware of the bullet points version of it.
There was a (comparatively) brief period where Flowey started calling me Chara, not out of any direct action on my part, but out of a perverted (mis?)understanding of what I am.
I mean, the fact I called him Asriel the first time we met probably didn't help.
>>44502244
Pokemon, Wakfu, Samurai Jack, PACIFIC RIM, Jackie Chan Adventures, WEBMAGE, Elder Scrolls!
Only the hivemind is allowed to know my true joy. Gotta hide your power level.
>>44503161
Eventually, I made Frisk a... deal? Assuming there were no resets, I would leave in five years. It would have been easy to just say "fuck it, as long as I get my five years I don't care", but...
The deal was, if Frisk remained Underground for those five years, then on the very last day of the very last year, I'd help him get the Best Ending.
So, on the very last day of the very last year, I stood on a bed of golden flowers with Frisk and Asriel and gave him one of my souls. Soul Eater's Monster Cat finally came in handy for something?
You can say that monster souls aren't really transferable, but... to be fair, I had a r̢eally̡ ̷lo̧n͞ģ ͡t̸i̸me͢ to figure it out.
So, Asriel was saved. I didn't get anything for that. He isn't going on adventures with me, and I didn't get any compensation for losing a soul. He just gets to spend time with his parents again. That's all.
Of course, nothing is preventing a reset after. But I won't be around to hand over another soul. I also made this abundantly clear. This was a one time deal. Exactly One Time.
So, I guess it comes down to trust. Whether you think someone would give up their ability to replay a finite area to save a little goat boy. There are plenty of people who say said they would, given the chance. But if they really were given that opportunity...?
Whatever. I already decided and I did it. Whatever happens, I don't regret it, even if it ends up being for nothing.
I didn't have anything better to do.
>>44503177
Now that's how you handle a drawback like that.
also, it's amusing to imagine frisk going on a date with a temmie.
>>44503277
Bipedal shapeshifting tem, keep in mind. Well. Bipedal when I want to be. Nobody found this weird. Because tems are weird. Everyone just saw the temmie doing weird impossible shit with her body and just sortof went, "yeah makes sense."
>>44497108
Now that I've looked through it, I'm pleasantly surprised there's no "Genocide" drawback.
>>44503127
Honestly, I'm a little sad you took "Hi, I'm Bob". The thought of what you'd get up to without that...
>>44503423
yeah that kinda shocked me too, the closest you get is Dirty Brother Killer, granted, you COULD go Genocidal on your own, but who would do that in a real world?
>>44503495
Sadistic people, people who don't like Undertale, etc etc.
>>44503434
Seriously thought about it... but I figured in combination with "I'm Not Ready To Let Go", that was basically a death knell.
Though, I mean, I guess on the plus side I wouldn't KNOW how fucked I was.
Seriously did consider it, though.
>>44503495
>granted, you COULD go Genocidal on your own, but who would do that in a real world?
Sadly more than you think.
>>44503495
>"I'm only here until I hit a victory condition, right? Time freezes when I'm gone! There ARE no consequences!"
>>44503495
>who would do that in a real world?
Kidding right? theres people here who literally wank over one day doing that.
>>44503528
Well, with the +200 all you'd need would be a 100 cp drawback, so you probably wouldn't need to take that.
>>44503495
Shit man, even when I do go genocidal I revive them afterwards. Just being polite you know?
>>44497108
If your soul gets temporarily absorbed by Asriel during the True Pacifist ending, does that count as a death? Considering literally every monster (save for Napstablook) gets absorbed..
>>44503495
We've had many people verbally masturbate in this thread of committing such an act.
>>44503621
Well, when a monster dies, their SOUL is destroyed. And nobody died when Asriel absorbed them so, long story short, no.
So if I rolled imagine breaker for a certain scientific railgun would that mean after or during the jump in can't use any supernatural ability for my right or left arm? Or would stuff like devil fruit and it work together because it's "me"
>>44503423
>>44503495
>>44503589
>>44503634You IDIOTS. You aren't even looking for me, are you?
>>44503665
Go away,Asriel, you're not old enough to post on 4chan.
>>44503665
Nah, can't visit you yet, gotta go to Cardcaptor Sakura and than I'll be able to ensoul things.
>>44503655
It doesn't effect your abilities, it's written right into the jump. Permanent bad luck is your bigger problem.
>>44503655
Unsure. However, I know it would nullify any and all existing luck perks you obtain, as well as any Fortune Energy you acquire.
>>44503646
...So does that mean someone can absorb my soul as a Boss Monster without having my chain end?
I mean, I don't plan on it but it could make for an interesting story.
>>44503745
I don't know. I think Boss Monsters are the exception, their soul can hold on for a little bit after death. So someone probably could absorb your soul, but since you'd have to die for that to happen...
>>44503695
>>44503701
Golly, aren't you smart? Too bad you're too STUPID to read between the lines. Hee hee hee...
I'm sure someone will figure it out eventually. Someone who knows the REAL meaning of this world.
>>44503829
shit, that's right, Flowey in the time before Frisk had enough DETERMINATION to use SAVE states, and could use it right up until Frisk fell into the underground
>>44502244
Pokemon of course, though it took a while to get myself out of the "this is just a dream and if I try to prove it's not a dream, I'll fuck it up and wake up" phase.
Beyond that, there was a minor freak out in Harry Potter until I realized that Potter was a bit of a dick and Granger was a cunt. Major geek out in Ace Combat when I ran into (and, er got shot down by) Cipher. Also, Master Chief. After that, everything lost it's just a bit.
>>44503423Are you sure you've been looking hard enough?
>>44503906
Lost it's luster rather.
>>44503877If you're determined enough, you could become the sole SAVE holder. He'd be fucked.
>>44503877
Oh, right. That's a thing.
Sounds like those first 5 years won't be as boring as some people might have thought.
What roles do you generally have your companions as?
Strikes me you might as well specialise if you have a few.
Have a scientist or two to help you do science, have some combat guys, maybe a general for your armies, diplomats, pilots, medics, etc. There's lots of ways you can go with it.
Obviously the need for this is lessened if you go for the single companion route but you could still have them prioritize stuff that makes them a good second in command or bodyguard or something.
>>44503423
>there's no "Genocide" drawback.
There might as well be. Mr Snippy and company without my/Benefactor influence? No survivors.
>>44497108
What kind of soul do you have while you're here?
I mean, most of us would have had a human soul before we came here. Does becoming a monster weaken your soul, or is your soul the same strength as everyone else and humans native to here just have VERY powerful souls?
>>44504012
SOULs =/= Souls
SOULs are unique to this world alone
>>44503713
What's fortune energy? And so I could totally have magic negating lava because of my devil fruit?
>>44504012
Oh, misread the question.
I currently can't consult dem Eyebrows on this but
I'd say jumpers who don't take the native races have somewhere between human and monster SOULS, unable to utilize(or be hampered by) the magic biology that monsters have nor having the potential of determination that the powerful human SOULS have.
That's just an on-the-spot ruling until dem Brows returns
>>44504060
Can get it in the Binbougami jump.
Basically the essence of luck condensed into a spiritual energy. There's a bit more to the metaphysics behind it, such as the fact that a significant enough dose of the energy will make you a Fortune God, but that's a good gist.
>>44504060
Fortune Energy's from Binbougami Ga
It's like a mix of luck and chi, as far as I can tell
>>44503596
Yeah... but that wouldn't be nearly as fun to write about. Besides, I REALLY WANTED to take I'm Not Ready To Let Go. I wanted to get my Groundhog's Day loop on. Kindof annoying I have to guard against the whole True Pacifist thing, but I'll take what I'm given.
... oh. By the way, I keep forgetting to ask this:
Brows, does Lost Souls effect drawback companions?
They're not normally part of the normal eight companions limit. I actually have far more than eight people running around with me at any one time, the caveat being that about half of them I can't switch out.
>>44503829
>Golly, aren't you smart? Too bad you're too STUPID to read between the lines. Hee hee hee...
Hmm?
>Checks
>Holy Shit
>>44504254
I don't get it, is there a legit "between the lines" thing going on here?
>>44504254I'm highlighting the text and nothing's showing up.
>>44504314
this, what am I missing here?
>>44504314You see those phantom lines? Paste them somewhere else.
>>44504303
Welcome to the Underground, a world populated by monsters, long ago banished from the surface by humans. Here, the monsters make a peaceful existince, making do with what they have. Relax and take a load off- There's no need to worry about fighting anyone here. Just good food, bad laughs, and nice friends. Your stay here will last the usual 10 years- And it'll start 5 years before the events of the game proper.
* Hey, it's me! Your best friend, FLOWEY! Flowey the Flower!
To help with your stay, you have 1000 cp to spend. Spend it wisely, young one... And be good.
* That stupid skeleton wouldn't let me talk to you directly...
(hey, buddy, just a tip... this jump's pretty long, so you might want to use ctrl+f to
skip to the *BACKGROUNDS, *RACES, *PERKS, *MAGIC, *COMPANIONS, *ITEMS,
*DRAWBACKS, and *ENDING to navigate faster. i'm rootin' for ya, kid.)
* So look for me in between some of the perks! Boy, do I have a lot to say to you...
>>44497108
I'm surprised there's no 'memory is preserve during time travel' perk here.
I'm also surprised humans don't get anything to make up for the extra cost on magic. Like with the items or something. In the context of this as a jump, there's no reason to go human.
>>44497108
Question about the "Here We Are" capstone, when you say that we can robots with souls, does that mean we can make souls period? Like fashion them from scratch?
>>44504337
* Hey, it's me! Your best friend, FLOWEY! Flowey the Flower!
* That stupid skeleton wouldn't let me talk to you directly...
* So look for me in between some of the perks! Boy, do I have a lot to say to you...
>under Justice
* Golly, these sure are nice perks, aren't they? Letting you get along with everyone..
* What a bunch of SAPPY GARBAGE. It makes me sick
* Do you really think you can change anything with perks like these?
* I know who you are, Jumper. I know what you do
* You've killed people, haven't you? You've probably killed a lot.
*What, do you think visiting here is going to change that? You're still a MURDERER.
* Besides, you're only here for one thing, aren't you? Power.
* Isn't that all this is about? It's one big power trip. To make you feel better about yourself.
* So you can pretend you're some kind of all
kind of all powerful being far above the puny masses...
* When really, deep inside... You're the same pathetic person you were before all this started.
* ... Though. I might know how you can get what you really want out of all this.
* Real power. Unlimited power. Power enough to crush anything in your way... Isn't that the
point?
* I made a special jump, just for you. It's not even in the drive!
* Once you see that Jump, you won't need this one anymore...
* Let's destroy everything in this wretched world.
* Everyone, everything in these worthless memories...Let's turn 'em all to dust.
* https: [EXPUNGED :^)]
* Just take the space out, and we can get to work.
God damn, Brows. This is great. You went above and beyond for this one, you magnificent fucker.
>>44504254
This was already a good jump, but this shot it up a few more rungs.
>>44504464
Nooooo! Why would you post it!?!?! Now people won't be able to use their determination to see the lines!
>>44504526They'll still have to find the link to the modified jump themselves. I'm just saving them a little time.
>>44504460
>>44504012
Mild fixes from the word of Eyebrows
For one: If you don't pick a native race, you don't have a SOUL!
As I said: SOULS are native to undertale, souls are something different.
Also, Here We Are allows you to create robots that are capable of housing SOULS easily (I.E Mettaton), rather than making souls out of scratch.
Okay, so. What exactly is undertale?
>>44500464>>44500535
>>44500595
>He
>Pretending
Christ, you cannot stop shitposting about me. You drag it into a new thread to keep attacking me for having the GALL to tell you to stop arguing with Tera because it just leads to more shitposting. Now apparently I'm a scary bogeyman who pretends to be other anons who tell you to stop being a retard. Maybe you're a fucking idiot and an asshole and other people got fed up with it? Ever think of that you shriveled slug of a human being?
>>44504464
>When really, deep inside... you're the same pathetic person you were before all this started."So what's your point,Marche- I mean, Chara? Do you actually think anyone but you cares? At least three hundred people, between the worlds, know exactly what I was, what I am, and what I will be. And every one of them still thought I was worth something, even when I didn't. One of them is standing next to me right now, basically hated me once upon a time - and still saved me in my darkest hour. She could have just let me die and gone home. But she didn't."
"You're outvoted, buddy."
>>44504636
Flavor of the month garbage.
I keed I kieed
>>44504636
Pretty fun bullet-hell/'rpg' where your actions actually have consequences. If you haven't played it before get the fuck out of here and pirate it or something before you get spoiled. It's fucking magical for your first3playthroughs.
/v/ loved it when it first came outI know, I was there.but now pretends to hate it because it's popular.
>>44504059
>>44504581
>SOULs and souls are different
Okay, that makes sense. Thanks.It also neatly sidesteps the potential issue of jumpers who eaten lots of souls, are a NGE Angel, or took one of the soul perks from Soul Eater immediately turning into a god of hyperdeath as soon as they arrive.
>>44504636
It's an RPG inspired by Earthbound. One of the selling points is that nobody has to die. Also, consequences.
You should stop reading this thread and go play it. It's not too late, and it's only like 6 hours long and can easily be split into 20 minute sessions if you're short on time.
>>44504636
A friendly game where nobody has to die.
>>44504059
Does this mean that power of dominance from Castlevania wont help protect your SOUL, because it is different to your regular soul?
>>44503972
Humans are generalists and I support generalization when possible.
Okay I'm freaking out here. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how to use Pact-Binder from Changeling: The Lost properly.
Is there a way to get anything good out of it without surrendering my soul or something of equal or greater personal value?
>>44504647
Just don't bother. By now people have basically decided he's hate worthy material, so even if you don't feel it's appropriate, they're so obsessed with driving Tera off that they're taking a "You're either with us or against us" mentality. Too far gone to do anything about it now, and no sense investing anything at all, time, effort, thought, etc. It isn't pretty, but it's not really stoppable either.
>>44504807
You don't have to give your soul, only tiny bits of your Will that you can easily get back.
At least, that's what I've gathered.
>>44504581
>As I said: SOULS are native to undertale, souls are something different.
...So does magic actually work on anything from outside the jump if it works on something they don't have?
>>44504791
Yessir.
There's always the heart locket, though.or increasing your DEF
>>44504811
I hate him too is the thing. My advice boiled down to the same shit everyone else is saying about filtering and ignoring him. For some reason that anon has just decided he's going to target me too for advising something that doesn't shit where we eat, so to speak.
>>44504803
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
>>44504807
I actually don't think it's personal value that factors in, because one of the sacrifices for the Seasonal Contracts was a captured Gentry member.
>>44504807
Be such a violently insane person that the horrible situations you're placed in on behalf of whoever you're making the pact with are actually benefits to you, or at least enjoyable.
>>44504866
>implying specialization isn't what allows civilization
You only get cities when people can focus on things that /aren't/ making food and maintaining their own handcrafted tools - i.e. the same thing everyone else was doing.
>>44504852
Reminder: People hit you less hard if you look cute!
>>44504860
Like I said, if we even associate ourselves with tera in a non-hateful manner somebody ends up targeting you. Personally there are lots of people who are equally as bad as tera, but they don't have as much exposure since tera draws so much attention. Even if he's gone, the negative attention just moves somewhere else, like the times when he "left". Better to just stay silent and let them have something to obsess over.
>>44504807
Nope. It's worthless because it damages your body and mind for every use.
>>44504894
Humans get an extra feat at character creation, allowing for even further specialization than almost every other race.
>>44504910
Do they hit you less if you're gorgeous?
Also, as a personal challenge, when I do eventually get to Undertale I'm only going to use Anime based powers.
>>44504791
Dunno.
However, depending on how they interact, having both a soul and a SOUL may open up interesting exploits.
For instance, if they are related then a really strong and/or magical soul might allow you to hold yourself together if Asriel rips out your SOUL, because your soul is still in your body. You could also pull off the opposite if some elder god rips out your soul, your SOUL would prevent you from becoming an empty husk.
>>44504894
SPECIALIZATION IS FOR INSECTS.
And FWIW, there are more than enough perks to do all those things in the quote, except maaayyyybbbe changing a diaper.
>>44504807
She's a qt
>>44504984
You could always get a Stand that does that for you.
>befriend absolutely fucking everyone for the win condition
Does that include Jerry or can I ditch him like normal? This is kind of a deal breaker.
So SOUL perks are basically useless outside of the jump right? Or does Jump-chan equalizing the perks as working normally despite being in different worlds still apply?
>>44504434
Just take Observer from BlazBlue. That gives you immunity to all sorts of time-fuckery.
>>44504894
Being able to take care of your own children and keep your own house in repair, as well as have a diverse range of interests, all save you money, time, and lead to a better life.
>>44505025
Even I am not this cruel.
>>44505040
All SOUL-based magic attacks will work the same outside the jump.
>>44505088
Brows, question:
can we do the normal undertale and then the special flowey undertale as separate jumps?
>>44505078
What children? What house? What interests? What money? What time?What life?
>>44505025
>>44505088
You heard the jumpmaker, it's okay to candelabra Jerry.
>>44505071
I have taken that. Just sayin', you know? Would've expected something here too.
Also my bigger concern is more that there's not much reason to go human because of the doubled magic price for no real gain.
>>44505107
>wanting to run Murdertale
>willingly
>>44505088
Thanks for the clarification.
Does that also apply to the SOUL science perks?
>>44505108
You're on /tg/, silly. you have many interests. You probably like videogames, anime, reading, and roleplaying at the least.
>>44505088
AssumingMurdertaleis the second to last Jump of a Jumper with sufficiently advanced levels of power, could it be possible tocompletely overthrow Flowey's hold on the Jump by not taking any human perks?
>>44504984
Insects and professionals.
>>44505123
Nope!
One or the other.you didn't really think you were beyond consequences, did you?
>going throughMurdertale>THERE'S MORE SECRET FUCKING CODE>IT'S IN WINGDINGS
fuuuuuuck
>>44505088
Okay, good. I can do this.
From there it's probably on to Touhou to finally die and go back home, and if that fails to get me I'll be extremely surprised and go on to DB. 80 years of adventure is probably enough.
>>44505244
>managed to copy paste it correctly
HOLY SHIT
MASSIVE FUCKING SPOILERS* H-hey, what are you doing?*M-maybe this isn't such a good idea. The world is fine as it is...*Y-you aren't seriously considering this, are you?*I'm serious! Back off!*I'm useful to you! I can help! I... I...after all, who'd want to be friends with someone like you?
>>44505248
At least you can die happy in a bullet hell.
>>44505267
oops, missed a line* P l e a s e d o n ' t k i l l m e .
comes beforeafter all, who'd want to be friends with someone like you?
>>44505107They are mutually exclusive. You cannot take both.
>>44505134
I'm sure the principles are similar.
>>44505200Flowey isn't the one you should be worried about.
>>44505346Is it theoretically possible to jump Murdertale for the sole purpose of not having something that horrible exist in its current state anymore?
>>44505346
What, you're sayingin Murdertale Chara rides our SOUL?
So, Undertale.
Holy fuck this will take a lot of thinking, I can't choose. Too much.
Luckily charisma perks will help with the secret companion unlock.
As for those that are unaware of drawbacks they took or such? Personally, I make it so that I am unaware of the jump choices, unless the secret conditions or such are something I would not even think of doing otherwise, and since Jump-chan wants to be interested, she either leaves me notes or something related that type of stuff, or if the win condition changes.
Alternatively, such stuff shows up as some sort of objective on my pokedex. The first thing I ever got when jumping.
>>44505388
That's called jumping Undertale instead.
>>44505455
Presicely.
Brows, how does the SOUL substitute work with Dark Binding or such?
Brows, where is the nearest deep dish pizza place?
So how would Pokemon debuff moves interact with things like Fortitude, Will, or Reflex saves?
I imagine Thunder Wave (if it hits) would drop someone's Reflex save, but what would Will-O-Wisp or Toxic do to their Fortitude save? Would Confuse Ray affect their Will save in subsequent rounds?
Brows, what is love?
Brows, when is the next showing of The Force Awakens?
Brows, why is tsundere anon so sensitive?
So speaking of Murdertale, the Loadstate perk... when it says "Everyone in the world" does it mean the whole universe, as in, outside of the planet the setting is happening on or such? Does it mean that you don't keep it if you don't kill people outside of the planet the plot is on, even if you just don't have means to find them or leave the planet at that point?
Brows, why is out of state tuition more expensive?
>>44505615
Baby, don't hurt me. Don't hurt me no more.
>>44505567
>>44505602
>>44505615
>>44505616
>>44505617
>>44505635
whatthefuckisgoingon
>>44505657
Ask Brows.
>>44505657
first jump made in a long time so we're asking Brows for another one
>>44505567
Not as well as it would with a real SOUL.
>>44505602
I think Grillby's does pizza.
>>44505615
Baby don't FIGHT me, don't FIGHT me, no more.
>>44505633
Just the planet/system relevant to the plot. Your partner will take care of the rest.
>>44505616
Probably as soon as I get into work, knowing my luck.
>>44505635
I don't know, I live in Canada.
>>44505657
Didn't you know that Brows is actually the new name of one of those Siri/Cortana programs?
>>44505715
HA BEAT YOU TO THE JOKE!
>>44505715
But how would it actually work with Dark Binding? Can you mash several SOUL substitutes into something to give something a soul or count as a 1-up for dark binding?
Brows, how are you today?
>>44505606
Will o wisp and toxic just cause damage over time, right? Not hurt defense.
>>44505715
>Brows ignores my question
Brows why are you so rude?
So, considering Red's size, I think for the next year we should have a New Year's Eve party on Red.
Such adorable belly and all.
So huge
>>44505750
Because yours was a shitpost.
>>44505735
SOUL substitutes expire an hour after unsealing.
>>44505727
Curse you, anon! Curse you!!!
>>44505724
That's the only thing that makes sense.
>>44505757
Nah I'd rather not have potato salad.
>>44505766
Rude
>>44505800
Fact.
>>44505747
Busy.
>>44505750
What can i say, I'm basically the worst
Shit, I just remembered So Sorry exists, or does he given he's "in the wrong dimension"?
Still, I can ignore him, right?
>>44505832
Who?
>>44505832
You can safely ignore his existence!
Also for the time being, I have taken the reins.
Boss bunny.
>>44505809
>Fact.
It should be a fact by now that you are so rude
>>44505858
you don't know who So Sorry is?
oh boy:
http://undertale.wikia.com/wiki/So_Sorry
>>44505832
Just kill him.
>>44505873it's a joke on him not being relevant to anything
>>44505141
> /tg/
> liking things
Anon pls.
>>44505945
You misspelt /v/ anon.
>>44505749
Burn status effects lower Attack, Poison lowers Defence. To my recollection.
>>44505749
Burned status also halves the enemy's Attack, if I recall, and I don't know if Poisoned affects defense, but Paralyzed does cut Speed.
Which huuuuge jumper is better to party on? ASA's multiversal body and stuff or Red's body and her universal jewelry
>>44506126
ASA, definitely. No risk of the Garden deciding to assume direct control.
>>44506004
>Poison lowers Defense
Excellent. Even now, my enemies will be unprepared forBaleful Polymorph.
>>44502244
Muppet Treasure Island because Muppets. Kermit is amazing and I love him. I'm not the sort that freaks out verbally, so much as giddy dancing and hugs. I killed the plot, but it was Treasure Island, so I don't feel bad about it.
Getting Pokemon was great. Cuddlebeasts and deathmonsters to raise and pet. I was a pretty shitty trainer, but I took great care of them. They are best pets until they are traitors.
Digimon, and I got my own digimon and we fused and fought monsters together and saved people. I got to meet all the best Digimon and everything. I bought them ice cream. The kids deserve ice cream.
Courage was less freaking out and more just a general happiness at the bizarre universe. I got to pet a dog, which easily puts it in Top 3 jumps.
Gargoyles was me back to hugs and giddy dancing. I would not stop doing the opening intro in my head. Protecting Manhattan, meeting Xanatos, meeting Macbeth, King Fucking Arthur, the other clans, my husbando. After the World Tour Arc I derailed the plot, not that there was much left.
That's about it for my current chain. More will come in the future. I'm not a naturally excitable person, so it's probably only going to be a third of the jumps, tops.
>>44503972
Fighter: Chimmy, Roberta, Lexington
Gunner: Roberta, Ko'el, Sisters of Battle
Assassin: Falco, Lexington
Science: Lexington
Wizard: Me, Falco
Face: Me, Chimmy
Healer: Me
>>44506004
>Poison lowers Defence
I don't think that's right.
>>44505455
>>44505512
So what does this mean? I know jack about Undertale.
>>44506251
They are talking about the Genocide run in Undertale. Where you kill every monster you come across.
>>44506179
>>44506235
Sorry about that. Poison is actually one of the status effects that DOESN'T change your stats.
However, Burn does in fact halve the physical attack stat.
>>44506271
The weird thing about the Genocide run is that a lot of it only makes sense if you have context from the True Pacifist run, since with you killing everyone no one wants to give you any exposition. The exception is Flowey, who tells you things that make his actions in the True Pacifist run make more sense. I guess it's meant to play on the whole "doing this for the sake of completionism and seeing all the content still makes you a bad person" thing.
>>44506168
But she's cuter than ASA. And adorable.
>>44506306
Oh well. Looks like I'll need to toss out other debuffs before castingFlesh to Stone.
>>44506422
Rock hard eh?
>>44506455
They will be.
>>44506235
Toxic DOES on the other hand inflict a special kind of poison that gets worse every single turn and causes more damage. Basically it's a runaway train of building damage.
