So gnoll mind flayers are a thing. /tg/, what other sorts of evil brainsuckers are out there? (And if you feel so inclined, illustrate the evil brainsuckers that don't exist!)
>>44451790
Please, someone draw a bear mind flayer. For the good of /tg/.
inb4 tentacle pseudopenis
>>44451830
best I can do right now, senpai
>>44451790
Well, 3.5 had some sort of template for all the things that happen when the tadpole is implanted in a non-human. Not proper mindflayers, but they got a couple tentacles and a minor power I think.
There's also a template for things that only had part of their brain eaten, and the illithids pour a psionic slime into the cavity, granting them powers and slime tentacles that grow from the wounds. Also ensures the loyalty of the new... whatever they were.
>>44452261
Ultimate psionics? Maybe?
>>44452485
I once caught a three-day ban for posting just the top quarter of that image.
"Cropped porn".
>>44451830
>>44451960
Now I have an idea for a society of mind flayer werebears. It's pretty Mary-Sueish, but awesome at the same time.
>>44452350
I think it was in Savage Species, but if that was reprinted from another source I wouldn't be surprised.
Found the half-illithid at least
http://www.realmshelps.net/monsters/templates/halfillithid.shtml
>>44452587
The Illithiad for AD&D 2E had a bunch of stuff like that. It sounds like they lifted it out of there.
>>44452485
InCase is the best. You start reading his shit for the art quality and it turns out his porno comics have better stories than normal comics.
By the end I don't know whether to laugh or cum.
Could Tarrasque mindlayers be a thing? Perhaps as some mighty guardian beast? Roars blasting forth a terrible psychic wind, emitting an aura of unfathomable dread, reaching tendrils grasping for cowering adventurers writhing in agony as they grasp their heads, the great spined shell turning into a tentacled, membranous thing.
>>44453050
The Terrasque is of animal intelligence, so I don't think a mindflayer would want anything to do with it.
Also, it's a commonly understood fact that there exists only one Terrasque in the multiverse. As far as I know, the adventure module "The Apocalypse Stone" is the only time it has officially appeared as a possible encounter.
>>44453050
its brain is so big and it regenerates so quickly, I doubt the tadpole could eat the thing. It'd probably either push it back out the ear hole it schlorped in through, or crush it in endless waves of brain.
>>44453178
>>44453257
Damn shame...
What if you just shoved 50 different tadpoles in there?
I know I'm reaching here, but Beholder Mindflayers, maybe? I can't remember if the host has to be humanoid.
>>44453373
There are Int 3ish Mind Flayers made from nonhumanoids.
>>44453373
>I know I'm reaching here, but Beholder Mindflayers, maybe?
It exists, and is every bit as horrifying as you'd imagine.
>>44451830
I think a illithiowlbear would be a better fit, what with it already having a beak and all. Also Wellithids are best 'thids.
>>44451790
Here is a quote straight from Lords of Madness, the official splat book for various aberrations, on what gets used to make more mindflayers:
>Only certain races are used by the mind flayers as recipients of ceremorphosis. In general, donors must be humanoid, mammalian, between 5 feet 4 inches and 6 feet 2 inches tall, and weigh from 130 to 270 pounds. Humans, elves, drow, githzerai, githyanki, grimlocks, gnolls, goblinoids (of Medium size), and orcs are sought-after donors. Races smaller or larger than these, whether in height, weight, or size category, are never used, and neither are reptilian or amphibian races. Halflings, dwarves, derro, duergar, gnomes, centaurs and their relatives, giants, and kuo-toas might be used as thralls or as food, but they are never used as ceremorphosis subjects.
>Humans, elves, drow, githzerai, githyanki, grimlocks, gnolls, goblinoids (of Medium size), and orcs are sought-after donors.
>gnolls
So if its not humanoid, and thats the in game type not just any human-shaped creature, then its not used for making mindflayers. So no bear mindflayers, or other weird shit. in addition, it later states under the variants section that any other type of creature tends to result in the death of tadpole and subject.
>>44453898
>So if its not humanoid, and thats the in game type not just any human-shaped creature, then its not used for making mindflayers. So no bear mindflayers, or other weird shit. in addition, it later states under the variants section that any other type of creature tends to result in the death of tadpole and subject.
True, but one can't assume that the Illithids in charge of deciding where to put the tadpoles have tried literally ever possibly candidate for implantation, so it'd be reasonable to think that some reptilian/amphibian/avian races could work, if they were close enough in size and other characteristics to humans.
>>44453898
Illithid dragons apparently also exist.
>>44453898
Except there's heaps of exceptions to this. Mindwitnesses, Uchuulons, Urophions, Mozgriken to name a few.
>>44452350
Speaking of psykers, I've always had trouble deciding how to do Mindflayer vs. Psion matchups, like would a mindflayer have special techniques/powers for dealing with another psychicker or would the mind magician be well-suited to taking down mindflayers?
Would you also agree that the mindflayer would treat psion brains as a delicacy compared to other brains?
>>44451830
>>44451960
>>44452551
Good, but we now need mindflayer werebears. A drawfag needs to get on it NOW.
>>44452631
Porque no los dos?
>>44453050
So cthulhu?
>>44451790
Why not Dragon mind flayers?
>>44452631
Wasn't she a chick?
Not that I'm an expert or anything...
>>44452549
Which isn't actually a bannable offense, and just shows the mods are the most autistic people here. I once got banned from /k/ for starting a topic about newly introduced military hardware and using the phrase "have you heard the news". Apparently that meant it had to go on /news/.
>>44454184
They would be able to make the saves against their psychic powers better than a non psychic, but the whole innate psychic race vs a rare mutant dichonomy means the player should always be looking up to them in terms of power. Also why eat them when they are perfect use as a host.
>>44460074
Yeah. And a rather cute one too if the rumors have any truth.
>>44460130
Back in the days of NaziMod I got a 3 day ban from a 40k thread for pointing out that the Emperor treated the Primarchs pretty badly.
>>44453639
>>44453980
If I recall, there was another type that was a chuul mind flayer.
I think Alhoons are cool. Lich Mindflayers are neat.
Is there such a thing as lich Elder Brains?
>>44462497
Did atleast ban you for heresy? If not he wasn't doing it right.
>>44451790
Apparently, that's what happens when different monsters start dating.
>>44453257
Actually, easily fixable. There are certain abilities or effects that can suspend healing effects, including natural regeneration.
In 5e, there's a cantrip that can prevent any form of healing for a whole turn while also dealing damage and, for undead targets, imposing disadvantage for attacking the caster. The latter part isnt really important, i just felt the need to say just how op it is in regards to some enemies, since again, its a fucking cantrip and can be used indefinitely,
So basically, you want to suspend regeneration, implant the tadpole, and watch as you get an illithid variant of the tarrasque.
>>44465637
>mindflayer dating
"Enjoy your dinner? Well, cerveau pouding is an acquired taste you'll get used to. The restraints? Well... I hope it isn't too forward, but I'm going to implant this larva into your frontal lobe."
>>44451790
What would happen if you implanted a Doppelganger, or a mimic?
Or, terrifyingly, an aboleth?
>>44451790
Size/Type: Gargantuan Aberration (Psionic)
Hit Dice: 25d8+200 (312 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 20 ft. (4 squares)
Armor Class: 28 (–4 size, –2 Dex, +24 natural), touch 4, flatfooted 28
Base Attack/Grapple: +18/+40
Attack: Tentacle rake +24 melee (2d6+10/19–20)
Full Attack: 4 tentacle rakes +24 melee (2d6+10/19–20)
Space/Reach: 30 ft./30 ft.
Special Attacks: Breath weapon, improved grab, psi-like abilities, swallow whole
Special Qualities: Blindsight 100 ft., damage reduction 5/–, power resistance 25
Saves: Fort +16, Ref +6, Will +16
Abilities: Str 30, Dex 7, Con 27, Int 16, Wis 15, Cha 20
Skills: Climb +38, Knowledge (psionics) +31, Listen +30, Psicraft +31, Spot +30
Feats: Cleave, Improved Critical (tentacle rake), Improved Initiative, Power Attack, Psionic Endowment, Psionic Fist, Psionic Meditation, Speed of Thought, Wild Talent
Environment: Underground
Organization: Solitary
Challenge Rating: 15
Treasure: Standard
Alignment: Always lawful evil
Advancement: 26–45 HD (Colossal)
Level Adjustment: —
Breath Weapon (Su): Cone of acid 50 feet long, once every 1d4 rounds; damage 14d10 acid, Reflex half DC 30.
Improved Grab (Ex): To use this ability, a neothelid must hit a creature with two tentacles during the same attack. If it gets a hold, it automatically deals tentacle damage and can attempt to swallow the foe.
Psi-Like Abilities: At will—body equilibrium, psionic charm (all targets, duration 15 days, DC 21*), clairvoyant sense, psionic levitate, read thoughts (DC 17*), psionic suggestion (seven targets, DC 17*), telekinetic force (500 lb., DC 18*), telekinetic maneuver (+4 bonus, DC 19*), telekinetic thrust (500 lb., DC 18*), psionic teleport, trace teleport, truevenom (DC 19); 3/day—mind thrust (15d10, DC 23*), psychic crush (6d6, DC 16**). Manifester level 15th. The save DCs are Charisma-based.
*Includes augmentation for the neothelid’s manifester level.
**Includes the inherent +4 save adjustment described in the power.
>>44465879
>Doppelganger, or a mimic?
The results are....missing.
>>44465879
What if you implant a tadpole into a tadpole? Illithiception?
>>44462414
Those sound like some exiting rumors indeed.
>>44465948
Ithilid casts dominate monster and absorbs the tadpole
>>44465948
An Ithilid, but moreso. There are extra facial tentacles and they're overgrown to the point where the creature walks on them. The humanoid body is a twisted, useless little antropied fetus-thing.
>>44463498
An Elder Brain would invariably see lichhood as a downgrade. They also can't reproduce more tadpoles if they're undead.
Plus, it's incredibly taboo for a mindflayer to practice arcane magic in the first place. The mere idea could get one of them lynched by their psionic peers, so typically a mindflayer who wants to go all the way with being a wizard would need to be a hermit away from the Elder Brain and the rest of his people.
