How fat/tg/uys feel about this image?
>>44447366
>white knights
>>44447366
I quite like it, it's a knight being loyal even when his leader is unpopular. I'm quite big on loyalty in my PCs.
sorta blurry lookin
>>44447366
Loyal knight protecting his, possibly reformed vampire, queen from angry mob.
I quite like it.
>>44447366
It's a bodyguard doing his job.
Now, he might want to get reinforcements, because if that mob turns violent, he won't be able to do much all alone vs. a good hundred.
>>44447366
Makes me horny. I want to be a princess protected by a faithful knight.
Makes me glad it's not a lady knight.
>>44447366
I like how the people in the background are painted, it's a very nice effect.
>>44447366
the shield straps are pretty much retarded and non-practical
It makes me feel good inside.
>tfw you will never be a trusty knight for a beautiful platonic princess
>>44447496
>>44447546
>not wanting to be the one protecting your waifu
>not wanting to be the rock enduring against the tide as long as your waifu is at your back
>not wanting to even suffer all the injuries to see your waifu's smile again looking at you
>not wanting to bethe shield
>>44447366
a loyal retainer protecting his patron from a jeering mob. most respectable
>>44447366
I feel that there is a distinct chance the armored one is also lady.
>>44447366
Lawful neutral.
>>44447366
I can see several different story seeds from this image. So, good thing that it exists.
DOWN WITH QUEENS! DOWN WITH KINGS!
DEMOCRACY SHALL PREVAIL!
VIVA LA REVOLUTION!
>>44447366
chivalrous/10
>>44447929
The law of historical inevitability dictates the productive classes will eventually be pushed too far by the parasitic class, which will then proceed to utilize its illegitimate monopoly of violence to defend its station.
It gives me a paladin boner of justice.
>>44447366
The artist is really good about remembering how light reflects off of things. I enjoy the concept art aesthetic.
>>44447957
the question remains if the parasitic class should restrain themselves or make sure they can out-violence the insurgents
>>44447366
Good on those peasants for rising up against a cruel monarchy.
>>44447883
not with those broad shoulders, mate
>>44447976
>justice
>monarchy
Ha-ha-ha.
>>44448011
Maybe it's a black woman.
I think of three stories
>They don't see her as legitimate heir to the throne/title
>She may have been a part of some political action that got quickly unpopular
>She might be a captured enemy nobility of a kingdom that this land is not on good terms with.
>>44447366
I feel those people are somewhat unhappy, we should let them eat cake
>>44448011
>>44448031
Maybe it's a blackcarapace.
>>44447929
>giving decisional power to the uncultured and influenceable masses over the informed and rightful ones.
Don't mind me, do it, everything will turn out fine, surely.
>>44447366
It's a loyal bodyguard protecting his charge. Nothing wrong with it.
>>44448190
That's lot of loyalty for a hired shield.
>>44448067
>Granting executive power on the basis of birth, not merit.
Disgusting.
>>44448216
Spider-Man came out like ten years ago anon
2016 memes are all about fruit salad.
>>44448067
Because it worked so well for Russia and France. The next wave of rulers were totally not indistinguishable from the last bunch of nutters.
People lined the streets of Moscow for Prince Michael of Kent during a visit in the days of Stalin. Tears in their eyes, Tzar Nicholas had returned to save them. We could have caused a counter revolution with the power of that beard.
>>44448236
>m-merit is objective and uncorruptable for real, guys
>>44447366
I don't care what anyone says, someday I want to play a pure and shining white knight.
None of this 'be lawful or good' stuff either, pure chivalrous justice and untiring dedication to doing the right thing and helping the innocent.
>>44448261
The thing about revolutions is, they come around again. That's why they're called revolutions.
>>44448277
Until you come across a moral grey area and get completely fucked over.
>>44448262
Any amount of accountability is better than none at all.
>>44448340
I think you can have a paladin having a moral dilemma without causing a complete mental breakdown. In the end all he can do is do what he thinks is the right thing and stand by his decision.
>>44448236
How many US presidents actually grew up in a working class situation? The only one who was really born in the old clichéd "log cabin" was Lincoln, yet even he didn't grow up in one and was a very successful lawyer before becoming a top congressman and then president. I mean, you could be the son of a billionaire and be born on a train or whatever, it doesn't mean you grew up on a train.
Out of all the supposedly, truly democratically elected presidents, all are men and all were white until Obama. In several centuries not a single woman has been elected despite over half the population being female. Yet look at somewhere like Britain - they have very many famous female leaders such as Queen Elizabeth and Queen Victoria, going back in some cases to centuries before the existence of democracies such as the USA.
Also look how many presidents knew each other or were related, like Bush and Bush, as well as potential presidents such as Hilary being married to a previous president. There are over 300 million possible candidates yet the wife of a previous president comes up above all of them.
>>44448318
Night Watch by Terry Pratchett?
>>44448236
I didn't say anything about birth rights, only knowledge and justice. It needs a single right guy to have a good monarchy despite the selfish assholes around, it needs a single asshole to brainwash the uncultured masses in case of democracy despite the ones in the right.
Democracy favours populism.
Monarchy needs a solid set of principles and minimum a single right guy to make it works.
>>44448388
In theory, yeah. In reality, you try guessing what you think GM considers to be the right thing in given situation and suffer direly if you guess wrong.
>>44448432
Monarchy also needs a single insane asshole to fuck everything up for 50 or so years of rule.
At least in a democracy, the asshole is only in charge for a few years.
>>44448395
But, when it all comes down to it, her being married to a former president only helps her spread her message to the 300 million people who actually matter. Sure power helps power and political dynasties will be created regardless of the system, at the end of the day its the voter who decides, not some quirk of genetics.
It's also worth noting that a monarch who doesn't at least try to listen to their people often finds themselves forced to, and monarchs are only ever as powerful as their hold on the people
>>44448395
But Anon, everyone knows that the Corporate Aristocracy is freedom.
Also as a side note Europe would have moved towards greater equality and fairness a bit sooner if it weren't for the French Revolution. People in authority got really twitchy and conservative, in the manner of traditional rather than US political party, when that happened.
>>44448482
You still have 50 years of assholes, the only difference is they're not the one and the same one for all that time.
>>44448424
Yeah, probably paraphrased it but I really like that line.
>>44447366
If the bitch can't pick a dress that doesn't fall off in public she doesn't deserve to be protected from the public's stare.
>>44448478
Any GM who springs 'haha, gotcha!' traps as if there were only one correct choice or no choices that don't lead to the paladin falling is a shit GM. You play the paladin to the best of your ability and whether or not your GM is some kind of mega edgelord with a grudge against morality is a separate issue.
>>44448521
The populace isn't going to hold a single opinion for 50 years. If things are bad, they'll look towards someone else. It will usually end up averaging out to 30 years of shitheads with 20 years of good and clever leaders keeping the boat afloat sprinkled throughout.
>>44448511
Liberty extended because the king is comfortable is liberty curtailed the moment the king is uncomfortable. If it wasn't the French it would have been something else that made the powers that be clench their arseholes
>>44448482
The Saxon method of monarchy would seem to be a good balance of the two.
The lords and ladies could vote their kings out of office if they were totally unsuited.
Of course they had to be voted in so you didn't often get anything like Charles the Mad on the throne in the first place.
>>44447366
Why are those larpers going to Planned Parenthood?
>>44448511
I mean, I think everyone agrees that the Frenchies went a little overboard with their revolution. There was a certain point where they were supposed to stop, but they forgot where the brakes on a guillotine are located.
>>44448584
But then you'd just have kings that grovelled for the lords and ladies and did nothing for the average worker.
>>44448482
if it is a monarchy that puts people basing on their sense of justice, adherence to the set of principles and knowledge, like mentioned, how did the asshole end there?
>>44448575
Democratically elected leaders have done some things against the spirit of liberty.
Let us not forget the treatment of US citizens in World War 2. Specifically the ones that looked a little too squinty about the eyes.
>>44448638
Because one king decided "fuck that shit"
>>44448630
That was the Liberal - Conservative coalition of the previous British election.
No system is perfect.
If it was you bet your ass it will have already been discovered and all knowledge of it erased.
>>44447419
Loyalty is it's own reward
>>44448340
CG Paladins exist. Also, performing a evil act because you're under mind control doesn't count since you did not willingly commit the act.
>>44448639
And the US government was held to account over those actions. And trying to balance liberty against security has been the eternal balancing act of democracy since it was invented, and one I don't believe will ever be truly perfected
An absolutist monarchy, by comparison, would never have considered apologising for its actions
>>44448667
>>44448639
I guess at the end of the day all we can do is try and be excellent to one another and hope for the best.
>>44448638
Because a system based primarily on genetic lineage isn't keen on opening up its genetic line to outsiders, and things get screwy with small gene pools
Because if you raise a child to believe they have absolute power over people, they will grow up to abuse that power because they don't see why they shouldn't
Because someone who believes they are safe to exercise power without restraint will do so, and surround themselves with people who benefit from that power so they are harder to remove
>>44448236
Honestly, a constitutional monarchy would probably be better. The head of the executive branch would be royalty, ideally raised and educated from birth for the explicit purpose of fulfilling the duties of that role for the greatest good of the nation.yes, I know that while it looks good on paper, it'd never work
It would provide a greater sense of stability, and would keep the executive from pandering to the masses so much.
>>44448482
No, you get years of mediocrity by indirectly pandering to idiots with TV Tropes-tier understandings of key topics, and the leaders are so interchangeable that there is no accountability
>>44448704
And I'm sure that those apologies totally weren't empty words falling on cynical ears and that by admitting that they did bad it suddenly made what happened not have happened.
>>44448570
My country turned democratic some 25 years ago and it has been nothing but assholes since.
>>44448669
You sound like a cuck.
>>44447366
I think I saw that on /pol/ not long ago is what I think. And by "I think" I mean I did. Besides semantics it's a sworn knight protecting somebody most likely. I'm compelled to say it's sexiest and if she's so strong and empowered she can protect herself though in a modern context.
>>44448690
>CG Paladins exist.
Not in any edition worth playing.
>>44448768
I'll take years of mediocrity over years of darkness.
>>44448639
Except when those squinty eyed gooks helped a downed squinty eyed pilot evade American authority :^)
>>44448772
What country is that?
>>44448715
I like the cut of your jib.
>>44448715
This, people have tried to say this for millennia and yet we continue to compete rather than complete.
Sympathetic ignorance is our doom, I hope for the hive mind to develop soon, honestly.
>>44448782
You mean every edition in every game ever that was not run by a pants-on-head retarded GM?
>>44448781
>if she's so strong and empowered she can protect herself though in a modern context.
Realistically, she has no way to protect herself from the stones, does she? Address the reality of the image, not whatever ideological narrative you've made up in your head.
I imagine that hes worked for the king for years and looked after her when she was a child, now that shes older she keeps making a pass at him.
And he always saysno
>>44447366
There has to be a reason the crowd is angry.
I'd like to believe the Knight thought critically about why they were angry and weighted the pros and cons of continuing to serve a leader who's followers are so rebellious. But it's probably just dogged loyalty, rather than any actual ability to think constructively about these things.
>>44448815
Any country of former Soviet Union, really.
i thought this was Robert Strong protecting Cersei
Monarchs are literally chosen by God. Are you gonna question God?
>>44447366
I can't tell what it's supposed to be. Is she a vampire? Is that why the knight is blocking the sun with his shield for her?
>>44447366
Indirectly, but it really reminds me of playing a half-troll in a party with a Paladin of the sun god.
Could have gone reeeally badly after I mentioned that the sun just seems to hate me, but instead she walked along with me all afternoon, shielding me from the glare with her shield.
>>44448848
I had misread that as the princess is trying to make a pass at the king, as in kill him, and the Knight knew about it, and foiled these assassination attempts while hiding them from the King because he just wants this evil princess to be the girl he took care of for years again.
The knight is trying to guide her back onto the path of good, because she is the only evil he cannot bring himself to smite.
>>44448863
Oh.
I though shit was still shit because a democracy is irrelevant if the Mafiyat is the group that's actually in control.
>>44448771
It doesn't matter.
They did the right thing even if it was bad.
Democracy cannot exist in a state of war as war is an affair between two states, people don't matter.
>>44448877
When God puts Louis XVI into power you really know that he made a mistake. People were dying from starvation and disease while the king and queen never noticed. On the day the Bastille was destroyed the only thing Louis XVI put in his journal for that day was "Nothing happened", in reference to his unfruitful hunting trip.
>>44448877
Mandate of Heaven has only really been a thing in China and Ancient Egypt.
>>44448895
Peasants are throwing tomatoes at unpopular monarch.
Knight is shielding her from them.
>>44448832
Far from everything is competition. Borders and wars and generals may lend themselves to an orderly historical perspective, but it's only one and not the true correct perspective. Alongside those colours on the maps existed doctors, farmers, philosophers, inventors of technologies not meant for war, and all kinds of people who weren't out to hurt anyone. Their history is no less correct than the history of states at war, it's merely a bit more difficult to follow, because they have no fancy colours or borders on any maps, no clearly defined chains of command, no battlefield tactics to be analyzed, no-one who wrote down their musings.
>>44447366
What's up with this face?
It seems rather out of place.
>>44448877
King Canute would disagree and call you a sodomite for such a foolish notion.
>>44448869
If that was Robert Strong, then he'd be bloody to the ears by now in that crowd
Also:FUCKING CONFIRMED
>>44448877
God's a cuckold.
>>44448959
Which may not be entirely his fault.
In russia nobles would hide starving peasants and put happy healthy people in their place to fool the czar.
>>44448983
They used google image photos as a base (because this looks like reflectivity and lighting practice), and didn't paint over that face.
>>44448959
>the sans culottes dindu nuffin
>>44448983
That's a PC.
>>44448905
No she is trying to fuck him and he doesnt want to.
Becuase chivalry
>>44447366
I like it. A knight doing his duty, likely protecting a lesser noble or visiting dignitary of some kind judging by the lack of other guards.
>>44449080
How can she be a dignitary is she has no dignity?
>>44448947
The mob is still people and can be reasoned with.
>>44448959
To be fair, Mary Antoinette was actually trying to help matters, but the 'let them eat cake' rumor got spread around.
>>44449075
Or because blurring the line of succession seldom ends well for any concerned.
>>44448877
Yes, if he bothered to answer.
>>44448959
God works in mysterious ways.
>>44447366
THAT is a Paladin.
He does the right thing when everyone else tells him he's wrong. He plants himself by the river of truth and he tells the mobs "No... you move."
>>44449112
Or both?
>>44448847
>Address the reality of the image
I literally distinguished between the two, you shit.
>>44449130
Also the same reasoning used by ISIS.
>>44449130
Then the mob moves and mister pally dies. GG
>>44449102
She's an elf.
>>44449130
The mob isn't blocking his way though.
>>44449164
And a lot of people. Doesn't make it unreasonable to do.
>>44449174
>She's an elf.
how can you tell if she's an elf?
>>44448993
>posting forced memes
fuck off with this "viper" nigger shit
>>44449208
The ears give it away.
>>44448877
Maybe god wants an uprising?
>>44448833
>not run by a pants-on-head retarded GM?
But only a retard would let people play as CG Paladins, because the concept of the Paladin is TRUTH AND LAW AND PUNCHING EVIL.
>>44449220
why they despise them so?
>>44449109
To be even more fair, back then a cake was a flat, round loaf of bread.
>>44448277
Source?
>>44447384
White-Knighting is fine when you are an actual fucking knight actually protecting a women.
>>44448340
and then be fucked over because you follow your code.
>>44449267
Because they're plebs.
>>44449304
This. Real knights are a far different cry from someone on the internet desperate for positive female attention complimenting and defending them. This is a guy doing his job and being chivalrous and shit.
>>44447496
>>44447546
>>44447834
There would be scarcely anything greater than to be in either position. To be protected with the utmost devotion by a strong and stalwart warrior, one I can trust wholly and with no reservation, one I will make a future for as he guards me day by day; or to give life itself in protection to a noble cause purer and more radiant than I could ever aspire to be, an ideal given beautiful form and ambitious mind, her continued breath a blessing unto me of incorruptible purpose and perfect, blissful clarity.
drinking the kool-aid
>>44447446
>Escorting a royal vampire in broad daylight
I never knew how much I wanted this kind of scenario
>>44447366
Correct use of hover-hand.
Because they're humans.
>>44447366
Why are elves so bad at not getting raped ?
>>44449304
FUN FACT! in the rules of knighthood a knight who came upon a woman alone was obliged to help her in any way he could and protect her, but a knight who came upon another knight already protecting such a woman could kill the knight and use the women as he wished as spoils. Knighthood! Its like land pirating!
>>44449584
>the vampiress tried not to cry - even opening her mouth would bare her canines, which would cause the angry and fearful crowd to hate her more
>she felt so exposed in this noble dress, so unprotected, but she knew that she had to wear it to remind those watching of her heritage and service to the kingdom
>she stumbled a moment, unable to help but let out a cry as a beam of bright sunlight pierced her naked skin
>as she began to look up into the bright sunlight one last time, a large wooden shield suddenly blocked it from view, a bright red cloak carefully wrapping around her back to protect her arms and neck
>biting back her frustration at her own damned helplessness and the shame she must bring upon her house, she leaned up a little against the metal form standing beside her, curling carefully against his chest to hide herself from the sun as much as possible.
>"Nearly there, my lady. We must keep going."
>the lady vampire nodded, pushing down her emotions as she tried to focus on keeping perfectly in step with her stolid protector as they made their way through the cursedly bright city
>>44449693
Related
>>44449774
damnit I read it in his voice
>>44449744MORE
>>44448781
>it's sexiest
That it is, brother. That it is.
>>44447446
>>44449584
>>44449744
Damn. This is good shit. Maybe she made a mistake and got turned after fleeing the palace for a reason or another, in youthful foolishness. The vampires were going to drink her to death but the sir showed up at the last moment and took her back.
Her family secretly believes she would be better dead. Maybe they would have ordered an execution, but the sir stood by her and pleaded one chance to let her continue living, and mature into the queen she could still be.Even then all I can think of is how there's clearly a ray of sunlight hitting her right in the chest in that image
>>44449744
>>44449744
MOAR FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD MOAR!
>>44449916
God damn it, here I am trying to stop seeing horse penises everywhere I look, and then you come skipping along like an oblivious faggot and ruin everything.
>>44448318
Actually, they're called "revolutions" because English is a bastard mutant language.
"Revolutionary" as used to describe something new, or outside the accepted, was in reference to Kepler's simpler explanation of how celestial objects revolved around the Sun - ellipses with the sun at one of the foci. This use was extended to the ongoing scientific revolution, in which all sorts of cool new facts kept popping up, overturning established thought. This overcoming the status quo eventually became a secondary meaning for the word "revolution", cemented by the "French Revolution".
>>44449109
I have heard that the "let them eat cake" could have been a subtle suggestion for the people to take the cakes from the bakeries, who were making cake instead of bread, since cake sold for more money
>>44449956
How in the hell did you know my superhero name?
>>44449774
>No "Now I'm gonna stick me thumb up her ass and REALLY piss 'er off!"
>>44448859
The problem with that assessment is even if you think critically about your situation and a lot of cases it's not beneficial to you personally to question or oppose those are considered your betters. And not everyone wants to be a martyr. Especially not actual knights rather than romantic ones.
>>44449981
That's Hunger Games.
On more serious note, I don't think we can uncover the real origin of the phrase, but both interpretations fit the era logically.
>>44447532
I disagree. Scutum esque shields work really well against polearms when held like that, as well as giving it more range and power for rim bashes. It also is less tiring when having to stand around for hours at public functions. I'd rather it not actually be strapped, but that's a pretty good way of strapping it, in my opinion.
>>44449258
The concept of the Paladin is "you're a chivalrous fucking knight". That's the whole of it.
>>44449584
>>44449744
I didn't tell you to stop, continue this story already
>>44447834
>not protecting your princess waifu by volunteering as her body double for a dangerous diplomatic mission
>not using magic to alter your sex and become her doppelganger
>not undergoing an intense training regime to simulate every assassination or abduction scenario you can think of
>not getting airtighted by every penis of the royal guard you personally trained
what are you, a faggot?
>>44449986
I see much more than just horse penises.
>>44449882
>>44449947
Okay, stealing >>44449918 's idea a bit.
>she had been turned nearly fifteen years ago
>she had left the palace with a charming courtier who had convinced her to run away with him. She only realized after their breathless midnight run that his charms came from darker magic, and his object was not his heart, but her blood.
>somehow her bodyguard was there - she had tried to slip away from him for her elopement, but he had saved her with his dogged loyalty - if not preserving her life, then preserving her unlife as her family disowned her and called her monster
>for fourteen years, her bodyguard had accompanied and guarded her on a yearly ritual, a short pilgrimage to a local cathedral in the hope that holy might could cure her where no potion or magic could
>she didn't want to do it anymore - it had always failed, it never worked - but her bodyguard quietly urged her on each time, caring more about her charge than her charge herself did
>his arms full protecting her from the cruel gaze of the sun, he had to simply take the jeers and insults of the crowd, as well as their odd stones and rotten vegetables
>the town guard had dutifully tried to form a cordon for her yearly procession, but their gaze always seemed elsewhere and they always seemed busy with other matters
>>44450036
Not really.
A fighter can easily be a chivalrous knight.
A Paladin's defining bit is the whole "I AM THE SWORD OF MY GOD! I AM HIS HAMMER! REPENT!"
It's a shame knight - princess porn is so hard to find. Why the fuck is he using a roman shield though.
>>44449916
THATS FUCKING WIZARDRY!
>>44450176
Sure and a thief can easily be an assassin, but they decided to make subclasses with unique abilities for these particular and popular concepts.
The paladin's defining features that ordinary fighters don't get are a strict code of conduct (like a knight), a cool horse (like a knight) and the miraculous ability to cure injury with a touch (like Sir fucking Lancelot)
>>44450036
>you're a chivalrous fucking knight
That's Cavalier.
>>44450001
I'd rather be in the mob then at the guillotine.
>>44448395
> How many US presidents actually grew up in a working class situation?
Bill Clinton, actually, in Arkansas.
>>44450259
Learn the difference between "then" and "than", anon. It might save your life.
>>44450279
I guess that explain why I liked him.
>>44447366
It makes me feel sad that capes and cloaks aren't an acceptable fashion choice.
Oh sure, the snuggie is oh so adorable and random but a portable blanket strapped to yourself is "creepy" and "lame".
>>44449218
kill urself my man
>>44449882
>>44449947
>>44450148
>>44449918
Jumping onto the bandwagon now.
>It was bright. Why was it bright? It shouldn’t be so bright. She wasn’t supposed to be out during the day, not anymore. It was dangerous.
>The Old Keep had fallen, torched by the northern hordes hours previous. The Guard Commander, he had promised, promised her that it wouldn’t fall.
>And yet here she was, in hurried flight across the city, joining her family at the docks
>Two miles past, or was it three? Her carriage had been attacked, overwhelmed by the starving mobs. >They were hungry, so hungry. Why had they attacked? She had no food for them, she had no need to eat.
>Arms and legs and flashing blades, she was drowning in a tide of people. And below all that, so strong, so close, blood. She was hungry. So hungry.
>And then he was there. The other guards simply called him The Shield. Even in her earliest memories, even Before, he was always there, watching. He had never spoken. He had no need to.
>He pulled her from the carriage, and that is when the sun struck her, an almost physical blow.
>Then he was there once more, saving her life again, with wooden shield and vibrant cloak.
> “Almost there, m’lady. Not long now.”
>>44447883
Women know not loyalty, so it's unlikely
>>44450148
>finally, the church was in sight
>stony-faced priests - some that she had remembered being the epitome of politeness and kindness a decade ago - ushered her quietly inside, the cathedral doors closing behind her like the doors of a mausoleum
>even away from the harsh sunlight in the candlelit interior, she was reluctant to leave her bodyguard, and he gently lead her in front of the altar where an ornately robed bishop sat
>he looked at her balefully, but opened his great tome and began speaking the words that would begin the ritual
>hours passed, some with painful holy water and others with time being burned away on candle wicks, to end in failure as every year had gone before
>it was enough to bring her to tears, her shoulders shaking as she sobbed in front of the uncomfortable priests, as her hope against all her doubt was dashed yet again
>she was still a vampire, still a monster. Still so terrifying despite all her care that even the moved priests did not dare step forward to touch her
>and as the bodyguard's careful touch reminded her, still protected
>as they left the cathedral and made their way back to the palace in the cool night air, she thought to ask him why he had stayed close for all these years where no one else would
>Did he feel guilt for his failure, and need to atone? Was his duty alone what drove him onward to protect her, monster though she was?
>all he said in reply was to firmly state that his lady was not a monster
>she took the hint, and the rest of their journey was in silence
>>44447366
Fucking patriarchy, leave the girl deal with her problems, stop protecting her!
>>44448038
Here's another
>she is the princess of a formerly hostile nation that has been married off for political reasons
>that guard is her last and only loyal servant, a former general who now lives on disgrace for following his princess no matter where her path takes her
>>44450020
Wasn't cake the scrappings from the bottom of the oven or something?
That said, Marie Antoinette was known for bringing in peasant children to play with her own and running charities so she may have meant actual cake, assuming she ever actually said that.
>>44450148
I imagine that the family makes attempts to have her removed every so often.
As it is she is the eldest child and only child of the King's first marriage and therefore the expected inheritor of the crown.
Even if he was to disinherit her others might use her name to raise rebellion for their own ends. Also an abomination in the family is a deep shame.
At least she doesn't try to turn up to dinner anymore.
Every assassin has thus far failed. Pushed out of forth floor windows onto iron railings, mysteriously decapitated in the corridor, mailed to the council hall ceiling by a spear, hanging by the neck in the stables. Drowned in the fish pond with bruises on his neck. The last one survived, if you call it surviving. Every bone in his body was broken and what was left of him was dumped outside the kings door. He did not regain consciousness.
The King has tried to order the knight from her side. He was respectfully told to piss off. He is sworn to her service under his word to God.
Oddly the church quite approve of the Princess who is devout and virtuous and a great example that nobody is beyond redemption.
>>44447366
I found this pic the other. I already had ideas on how to use it.
Elf princess is daughter of some elf king, who's currently waging a war with a human kingdom. The war has been going on for years at a stalemate the only thing dwindling being the food stocks of either state.
In a desperate move to end the suffering, this princess goes out of her way to make a ceasefire, going as far as fleeing her father's kingdom for the humans.
In this scene, she is being escorted by a knight to the king's palace for peace talks (though whether her father will sanction any outcome is uncertain), the perception of elves by the people is clear in the background
What will the PCs do? They were meant to just pass through this city to take a boat across the sea. But showing them this scene, and the Bard PC hearing of this story in the tavern, will the PCs take a detour and resolve this political crisis? Will they try to make friends with this elve princess? There are elf agents sent by her father to kidnap her, and they offer a large sum for her return by the PCs.
What do!!!
>>44447366
Like I can make some drachma outta this OP.
>>44447480
they seem like a pretty polite mob from the way they're obligingly keeping the road clear, she's not really in any danger.
>>44449707
you're gonna have to give a source on this
>>44450465
Why assume she's a princess? She could just be noble. A princess would probably be protected despite everything because royalty.
>>44450589
I wish I could study the celestial body in the background.
>>44450758
I dunno, I like princesses.
And hey, for all we know it could just be "the knight's" princess
>>44448511
The king of my country gave us our constitution because he was afraid of another france. It would be an additional 100 years before true democracy was achieved, but for the first time in our history the king wasnt all-powerful.
It would be cool if being chivalrous as fuck was our sir's best attribute, and the rest he struggles with.
Not the greatest fighter among the knights, just really stubborn and his relationship with the others is somewhere between friendship and a little pity at how hard he tries. But damn if he doesn't know how to use a shield, and while the others are definitely uncomfortable with his protegee's condition he's the only one that never even faltered on his loyalty.
Maybe this also caused the church to frown at him and so his relationship with the clergy is a strained. Behind the helmet baggy eyes tell that it does get to him, but he doesn't stop
He has a vow and a code to follow, he has a word to keep, and more importantly, he has his lady to protect. Because no one else will do it like he does.
>>44450791
Not the chocolate hunny in front?
Shame
>>44448964
Mandate of Heaven is China only, Divine Right to Rule is the concept as it developed in Europe
>>44450931
Divine right of kings in Europe was a thing too
>>44447496
>you will never be a stoic, proud knight tempted by a saucy, haughty princess
>>44448028
If you want democracy, go join a rape gang.
>>44450978
Mandate of Heaven was different though, and was sometimes used to create a form of legitimacy for past emperors that could be co-opted by new dynasties.
>>44448959
It makes perfect sense if you remember that God is an Englishman.
>>44448216
Or perhaps he's wondering why you'd get out of the way of a princess after throwing tomatoes at her
>>44449707
citation needed
Now this is the kind of plotline that sounds like good roleplaying. I would read a novel about this kind of story. I really would.
Interpersonal conflict
Drama (and not the shitty kind, the REAL kind)
Morality disputes
Ethics in theory crashing against reality
Fallible people trying to adhere to concepts like justice in spiritual and in pragmatic view
There is endless potential here.
>>44450649
>>44451132
Let me try and dig it up then.
>>44451142
For a refreshing change the crusty, grumpy and grizzled old knight that protects her isn't a love interest.
He has no heart of gold. He has a heart of grump. It nothing but grump and crust all the way down.
There is no "seeing the pure heart beneath his hard shell". He ain't got one. He did 10 years in the Legions before becoming a knight. Nobody does a 10 year tour of The North and comes out the same.
Why does he protect her? Because he has watched her grow up from being a small child with scabby knees and he has always protected her. He is the uncle she actually wanted rather than the ones she had.
She got bit by a blood sucker? So fucking what. Legionaries got bit by fucking were-wolves before now and nobody gave a shit because it never happened to anyone important.
He don't see the nobility as important. Used to, back when he was young. Now he sees them as a bunch of chinless cousin fucker that are stingy with the paying due to being half-illiterate.
Thankfully he was commissioned by the Church who are literate and do pay on time.
>>44450978
That's what I said
>>44447929
>>44448067
>>44447957
>>44447992
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>>44448511
I see more Law is needed here.
>>44451418
I've always wanted to make a Judge Dredd like character.
>>44447366
Eh, pretty well drawn I guess.
I think her face is a bit off, but everything else is ok
>>44451418
now that you remind me...
>>44448584
That's just an elective monarchy broseph, not only the Saxons had it.
t.
ck2 pro
>>44450649
>>44451132
>>44449707
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-cm_KGmKj1o
Around minute 9:28 he speaks of it, For the life of me I cant find the book now to copy paste
>>44451418
I prefer Spider Jerusalem's take on it, but both are good ones
>>44447419
Do you think he would still be loyal if he was but a sellsword?
>>44451724
Depends on how much hes getting paid.
>>44447366
That's pretty sweet.
>>44447366
Hopefully he's doing the right thing.
>>44448424
>>44448318
>>44448539
I recognize it from Quicksilver, the first part of a Stephenson historical fiction trilogy concerning the births of science and capitalism in the late 17th-early 18th centuries, and the adventures of a rogue with no cock.
Notably, the character who said this about revolutions was wrong. The Glorious Revolution was never turned around, and Parliament holds power over the crown to this day.
>>44450377
10/10
>>44448395
>How many US presidents actually grew up in a working class situation?
Clinton, Carter, Reagan, and Nixon, and LBJ grew up modestly but had an influential family. This is just the last half-century.
>>44452046
The presidency was never meant for the average man anyway.
>>44451418
Suggest a better system faggot.
>>44451418
As comrade stalin used to say, when you criticize advise.
>>44452109
I already did.
>>44448755
A philosopher king is ideal, just difficult to achieve.
I think it could be done today though, if we just genetically engineer a super leader and program them to be benevolent.
Just make sure to institute a merit based bureaucratic standardized testing system like China below them.
>>44452109
Authoritarian, totalitarian, monarchy.*
*For best results use a benevalent ruler.
>>44449290
Knights of the Round Table (1953)
[learn to google]
>>44452080
okay, so what went wrong the last time?
>>44452170
I disagree, philosophy is like dealing in theoreticals instead of the actualities of the world.
>Create a genetically perfect leader.
>Today.
Work with me here, go outside, look to your left, look to your right, and then get back to me and tell me what you see.
I see a cracked and crumbling road that was just laid down two years ago, two rust bucket cars, a rotten telephone pole with a rusted transformer and the manhole to a brick and mortar sewer. And your telling me we can engineer a perfect leader in a jar.
I do like the merit system though.
>>44448395
Old hickory.
>>44452192
Define benevolent. Is it what you want? Is it what the people want? Is it an arbitrary system based on some philosophy or religious logic? Is it what is best for the state? What does best for the state mean?
>>44452238
What do you mean?
>>44452289
Brainwashing is a lot easier than you'd think. Not that it's 'easy,' but 'easy' relative to what you my precieve to be required to indirectly control someone's brain.
It's really more a matter of subtle influences and persuasions; the same stuff that molds us into who we are after our first couple of decades of life.
>>44452314
In my mind it means acting with the peoples best interest in mind, even if it might not be what they want.
The state cannot exist without a citizenry, therefore what's best for the people is best for the state and vice versa.
I'm always kinda pleasantly surprised at how moral /tg/ is if tendency toward xenophilia is discounted. And how monarchist it is in its views.
I truly do not need any other board.
>>44447366
The future heir to the throne will be mighty pissed when his "son" grows up to look an awful lot like his Queen's honor guard.
>>44452347
The human mind is a strange thing, you may not get what you expect.
>>44448277
There is no such thing as a pure and shining knight anon. The closest you could get is William Marshal, and he still played a mean game of realpolitik.
>>44448959
>On the day the Bastille was destroyed the only thing Louis XVI put in his journal for that day was "Nothing happened", in reference to his unfruitful hunting trip.
To be fair, he could have been miles away. George III put "nothing happened" in his diary on July 4, 1776 after all.
I found it the other day and am using it as a flashback scene for a major npc. He's going to be put into a coma by a shrike, and the players will have to dig into his head by way of a spell in order to find out how he killed it the last time, as well as wake his ass up from the coma. He was escorting Arianne through the market when the accidentally incinerated a troublesome boy who was coming onto her way too hard. She was never previously a magic user, and the knowledge of her being a Hexer (powerful Mage warriors that are adopted and do not develop magic at all until adulthood) would have cause political chaos with the royal family. So, the NPC "came out as a mage" and took the blame for killing the boy. He escorted her through an angry mob that was raging against them both, and successfully got her back home. Even though he was a war hero, and had saved the royal family from assassination, he put himself into a self-enforced exile from the kingdom, and receives remote orders directly from the emporer, which is why he hasn't tried to kill the players, since the other elite knights were still under command of the military.
>>44452354
But what is the peoples best interest?
>>44452449
It's quite possible there were many pure and shining knights. The problem is that people with ideals often die for them before even making their name out for themselves.
>>44452482
What ever the leader thinks is best,
You're not going to get perfect results but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. It's like parenting.
>>44452482
Another anon. Perpetuation of the people and increase in its standing when compared to other peoples.
>>44452536
And then you get a Nazi Germany scenario. Wunderbar.
Vampires are overrated
>>44452456
>implying that France had a king after the Sun King.
>>44451062
Terry Badkind, please go.
>>44452585
Nazi germany wasn't so bad, of course their were bad decisions however Hitler wasn't there to serve Germany, he expected them to serve him.
Alternatively The Swedish Empire was very nice.
>>44448781
>>44450913
You mean Licenseless Rider Man?
>>44452633
Is his series really that bad?
>>44450589
>N7
hmmm...
>>44452628
Based Churchill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Churchill,_1st_Duke_of_Marlborough
>>44452672
Depends.
If you
1) Hate socialism and/or have objectivist leanings
2) Like gratuitous BDSM scenes and don't mind occasional rape
3) Can suspend disbelief well enough
you can unironically enjoy the books. At least the first few, not sure how bad or good it gets.
>>44452649
>>44451724
Chilchak. Some people find honour internally, in keeping to their word and maintaining their reputation even of the job turns out to be harder than expected.
>>44450929
Split them you take chocolate thunder I will take heavenly assets.
>>44452806
I mean before the war of course.
>>44452649
>Nazi germany wasn't so bad
>>44449774
>>44452649
Surely you must realize what you've just said.
If not, there is always pic related
>>44452914
I wish MY government had such a well organized pest control program
>>44449774
Posting the rest, because it needs to be posted
>>44452818
Tru dis, also helps draw in further employment if they stick around. Maybe not to the point of dieing for it if their employer is about to eat it. But in sticking around a bit longer then most other perspective employers will move them up the list of those they would willingly hire.
Game of Thrones shows this...some what.
>>44453010
Be careful what you wish for, you might be next.
