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https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html
>FAQs
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>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V6.pdf
>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
Chaosmas edition
No hope for CSM sub-edition
>>44365011
Soulblaze is garbage. After taking a wound, roll a d6. 4+, take d3 flamer hits.
>>44365011
But it's gonna be hard for GW and they'll probably fail because Sanguinus is supposed to be able to slay Horus and Angron to without much difficulty.
99% they'll drop the ball.
Hey lads,
I'm looking to make a mech IG army (using mordian iron guard). I've never played 40k before but my basic vision is the army to consist of 3-5 squads of infantry mounted in chimeras and supported by leman russ's, basilisks and other armour. Id like to avoid flyers if possible, if the army is competitive that's cool, but I'm mainly keen on keeping a ground mech force.
Two questions are: what type of leman russ should I be using? I figured vanquisher as my armys anti armour element And how should the list roughly look? Aiming for 1800 points.
THIS IS NOW A SQUATS THREAD
>>44365255
I want to live in the universe where hairy little bikers with battle trains and zeppelins are a power race and we all use "Eldared" as a euphemism for removing stuff from the game.
>>44365110
So, useless against anything but 2W shit? Or does it 'spread' to other units?
And if you were the guy who said what Blind does, then what does Fear do? I thought it was make WS1 on Ld fail. But if Blind does that too... Then it's useless. I suppose it'll mean you've got two chances at forcing your opponent to WS1. I wonder if anybody has made a conversion yet. Lightsaber with neon lightning would be cool.
>>44365156
Where did it say this? I thought the fluff said only he, Girlyman and Horus could 1v1 Angron when he was in fury mode. Sanguinius wasn't Warmaster cause of the wing thing and because Emperor tested Horus at Ullanor.
>>44365282
>>>44365255 (You)
> we all use "Eldared" as a euphemism for removing stuff from the game.
It would be a Christmas miracle.
>>44365202
Aim for 1850 points, thats the standard.
What kind of tanks you bring depends on the rest of your list; what role you need them to fill.
>>44365325
>Girlyman could 1v1 Angron
>>44365325
Soul blaze is on the unit, not model. It doesn't spread at all you just keep rolling 4+ to deal d3 flamer hits on the unit affected (but if you roll a 1-3 it goes away entirely). Its useless because it almost never does any damage
>>44365101
>Emperors Day edition
>>44365364
>>44365325
Soul blaze is pretty meh, but if it comes as part of the model or wargear, it's basically a free chance to do a bit of extra damage which is never a bad thing. Now if you had to pay for it, fuck that noise
>Where did it say this? I thought the fluff said only he, Girlyman and Horus could 1v1 Angron when he was in fury mode.
As well as Sanguinus and Ferrus Manus. Sanguinus was on Horus's level in terms of fighting, I think Horus even said that he didn't want to fight Sanguinus because he very well might beat him.
> Sanguinius wasn't Warmaster cause of the wing thing and because Emperor tested Horus at Ullanor.
Horus later claims that it should have been Sanguinus.
>>44364713
As good a pre-update Tau.
>>44365101
I know that picture is meant to be Christmas themed but why is the Necron golden?
>>44365101
Merry Christmas /tg/!!!
I wish all you awesome guys an amazing new year!
>>44365610
>mfw I think I got the Swarmlord for Christmas
>>44365652
I've got $200 worth of 40k stuff (BaC box, Centurions, Drop Pod) and I still haven't even opened them. Help motivate me /tg/, post your holiday backlog so I can feel better about myself.
>>44365682
GO FUCKING BUILD THEM
>>44365485
>The trinary stars of the Nephrekh crownworld glow golden upon the burnished shoulders of its legions. Rich in the solar wealth of scores of systems, the Nephrekh’s worlds cluster around the galactic core, its radiant brilliance filling the skies of their tomb worlds with a near-limitless supply of energy. From this golden chalice of flame the warriors of Nephrekh drink deep and grow strong.
>Phaeron Sylphek awoke consumed by an obsession with the stars themselves, announcing to his bemused court he wished to drape himself in their molten glory. To placate their lord, the Crypteks of the Nephrekh crafted him a living-gold skin – a gift he has shared with his followers so that they might embody the glory of the triple suns of Nephrekh as they do battle.
It's a reference to the generous and kind Necrons of Nephrekh and their Phaeron.
>>44365699
CAN I GLUE THE BOLTERS ON FIRST, OR DO I PAINT THEM SEPARATELY I DON'T KNOW MY FIRST ARMY WAS GK
>>44365652
>mfw I told my mom a list with warhammer on it and she rolled her eyes, like they always do when I mention it at all, ever
>>44365722
It depends. If you're a table top only quality guy then just build and prime them so you can field them and paint them as time go along.
If you want something more then head over to the WIP thread.
>>44365729
My folks are just happy they can get me something other than money.
Just start asking for money only.
>>44365682
Go build them, I would kill to have some minis to put together. I'm hoping for some Tempestus Scion minis for Christmas but not expecting them
>>44365757
They got me an Amazon Card lol
>>44365737
Yeah I think tabletop quality is as good as it gets for me. my GK were my first painted army so I don't expect to go from 0 to Michelangelo for my second one.
>>44365760
okay okay I'm motivated! it got to the point where my stack of boxes is so big I didn't even ask for more stuff for christmas.
>>44365729
>mfw I mention warham near my dad he says 'oh those toys you waste your money on'
Speaking of pic related, can it be used for 40k?
>>44365880
Yeah about the same reaction, then I remind him I could go buy drugs instead
>>44365970
Mother of a friend said outright she would prefer his son would do drugs instead than wasting time on nerd shit. considering I'm pretty much the same age of her, I had to use all my willpower to not slap that retarded bitch on the fucking spot
>>44366021
I'm disappointed you didn't. Don't be a bitch
>>44365966
Yeah, you can run the tac marines, termies, chaplain with their bog standard rules from the SM codex. Contemptor will require Forge World rules but you can download them easily enough.
>>44366021
I would have told her off on the spot, how retarded
>>44366021
For real?
I bought some Tau for myself for Christmas, that I've been planning/holding out for a few months. I didn't ask my mother for anything since she helps me enough.
Rest of family and friends don't really do gifts between us.
>>44366074
I'm sorry anon. Sounds like a sad life.
>>44366074
>Rest of family and friends don't really do gifts between us.
I'm so sorry.
>>44366085
>>44366090
eh it's alright. Them being there for me when I need it is a year-long gift anyway, that's what matters to me.
>>44365436
Thanks, as for that, many people thought he would have been better as Warmaster as well, I thought?
As for Manus, he got owned by Fulgrim. I don't think Sanguinius will be anything special. Flying takes a lot of points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CirrRY_6aaU
okay so the image. i got lazy with the grey knight so he's silver/grey and the necron is suppose to be gold. i guess sunflares would make it look more metallic? knight has christmas colors, most have hats, marine has a santa beard, murdermime has rudolf nose and antlers, spec ops troops have red nose, and the guardsman has lights on his head
>>44365325
>Rawbut going solo on Angron
What the fuck?
>>44366110
Ferrus had the upper hand and then Slaneesh stuck her dick up Fulgrim's asshole and jizzed Daemon powers into him al la Horus v. Sanguinus.
>>44366110
If Sanguinus was the War Master the Hersey never would have happened, so...
>>44366034
Friend gave me a "dude please don't" look, plus we were at their place, so
woman is a widely known hysteric bitch I discoverec lately, capable of stuff like
>friend is doing something
>mother calls him
>he doesn't answer
>happens for a couple times in two hours
>mother then calls friend's girlfriend
>girlfriend calls friend "your mother called me and said to take her calls"
added her in my list of people that need to be treated like shit no matter the context.
>end self induced isolation for studies purposes
>warhammer fantasy died
>flgs closed
>flyrant is broken
>group splintered
>can't even get to buy more plastic crack
m-merry christmas /tg/
>>44366227
Have you looked for a new group?
What's the best way to kit out a Defiler? Bare-bones? Shooty? Melee? A mix?
>>44366403
I'd guess shoot because bttle canon
>>44365202
>never player 40k
>better jump right to 1850
>YOLO
not just you newguy but half of every new player comes in here asking how to make way too big of a list for their first army.
What if the army isn't what you want to play at all?
What if games are too long and drawn out for you to learn properly?
You are piling on different tables and special rules setting yourself up to be overwhelmed.
My first army was orks, I went right to 1250 and noped the fuck out for some Dark Angels.
At 1850 every IG I see runs the Pask in Punisher and his two Executioner buddies for good coverage.
Are you specifically going against a lot of armour that you are looking to stack so much of it?
>>44366085
My family doesn't do giftanymoreeither.
Makes Christmas so much better imo.
>>44365810
>my first painted army so I don't expect to go from 0 to Michelangelo for my second one.
I feel ya there. I am painting my 2nd and 3rd army together and my first goal is Table Top minimum of 3 colors then my poor arthritic hands will slowly do details as I am able.Like in summer when my hands aren't fumbly pieces of shit
>>44366546
It makes it less awkward in some cases.
But let's just hope my Tau actually get here. It's an online order and Wayland are known for being very hit-or-miss. It's been almost a week and they haven't even received the stock yet to ship.
>>44366338
not really, I'm still trying to understand what I want to do now with what I have, honestly, the ideas of overhauling everything and just ending and selling both passed my mind; but as far as I know the closest and pretty much only things in a comfortable vicinity are a tournaments centered club and a small GW bunker; got a pair of old friends going in the last one, or at least they were before I started living under a rock.
main problem for that would be that the GW is not really keen to let old fantasy getting a pass, while they enforce a of no unpainted miniatures, which doesn't cope well with my slow as fuck rhytm of painting and swarm army.
speaking of that does anyone know a relatively fast way to paint tyranid skin with a pale purple tone on a black primer? like pic related but more pinkish
>>44366074
>Be me
>Finally move out at 22 into a single bedroom apartment.
>Regrettably inform family at thanksgiving I won't be doing gifts outside the big 3 (Fiancee, Mom, Grandma)
>Both brothers say thats fine and mention it isn't too late to return what they had gotten me
An my dad came up last weekend and got me a walking stick....
>I heard you like Warhammer anon! Merry Christmas
>>44366664
don't you fancy walking sticks?
>>44366697
It is actually a "Tactical Walking Stick"
Which one may look at and hope it had Ballistic in front of those three words.
It has a wrist strap, adjustable height and telescopic pole, compass, LED flashlight and optional snowspike and mud guard.
I live near the city in Illinois...
reading your stories I find it pretty strange now that my country doesn't hold the tradition of making gifts for christmas apart from making the kids happy.
>>44366687
Man this makes me uncomfortable. I'd rather no gifts than being put on the spot with a gift that totally misses the point.
So is there such a thing as a "bad gift"? I knew a person who hated surprises and really wanted to avoid that awkward feeling of getting a pointless gift, so he made it a point to tell people what he wanted and asked for their budget and he was willing to actually pay for part of his gift if it was past budgets. He'd also ask what others wanted because he wanted to get them gifts they would truly appreciate and was "tailor-made" for them.
>>44365880
>mfw my dad is really into 40k
Cool guy.
>>44366687
anon, please. You're making me sad.
>>44366928
>tfw my dad's greatest passion is reading the fucking newspaper
>>44366928
>tfw my dad can't play anything but whatever civ is newest, loves westerns, the american civil war and other stuff but just can't figure out anything else. He's even got little figures of stuff from the 40s, but wargames? He can't even.
So tgers, if I were to run the 4 ceratus knights at 2k I'd have 360 point to play around with. What allies should I include?
>>44367025
That baffles me. I mean warhams is just rolling dice, at its basest form it's like "Here, you use these figures and then it's like gambling. Some numbers win, some lose but they always change depending on what's happening"
The dude plays Civ so he definitely has the mental acuity to wrap his head around a wargame.
>>44367100
>four Knights
Doesn't matter. Nobody wants to play against that shit.
>>44366687
I bought this for the art on the cards. I wanted to play it, but, I'm all alone.
>>44366687
>buying an expansion for a game when you don't know if they even have the core game
What a dick.
>>44367180
I think what he means is that someone who has no idea about the hobby nor likes/respects you enough to do some basic-ass research to make a gift good just buys the first cheap thing with Warhammer on the box.
>>44367162
Heh around these parts there's multiple 5 knights players that play regularly. I could say the same thing about admech and battle company players.
>>44366836
>>44366933
>>44367163
>>44367180
To be fair, another friend gave me a box or grots, and I love grots so it was great.
>>44366836
>>44366933
>>44367180
Maybe it's a hint? Like, maybe he wanted to play with you?
I would go "wanna have a game then? Maybe we can get some models for you to try".
I assume your friend isn't into Warhammer, this is the perfect time to do it. Especially since AoS allows you to do games with like 10 models.
>>44367387
>>44367419
Forgot to include you.
>>44367419
It's from a female coworker who I have no interest in.
What's your opinion on pic related
>>44365880
>mfw my dad and I go back and forth poking fun at each other's hobby but he had no issues buying a chinacast knight titan for me for christmas
>>44367498
Maybe you should stop letting your kangaroo wife suck you off while taking pictures, Aussie. As for the model I think you need to thin your paints slightly.
>>44367498
Looks cool, but go to /wip/ thread if you want better advice.
Also it's upside Australia, Christ.
What's different from a space wolf to a normal marine? Are they good?
Can't decide on what to buy with my christmas paycheck. I have a hard time deciding between a dedaro, sicaran, or a xiphon for my 40k army.
>>44367627
space wolves get counter attack and acute senses
grey hunters are tacs with access to extra CCWs, blood claws are tacs with rage, but old scout BS/WS
wolf guard termies are better than regular termies because they can mix weapons and get a cyclone missile launcher and assault cannon/heavy flamer in a squad with mostly combat loadouts
>>44367674
sicaran or a dorito
actually nah just a sicaran
>>44367627
They got the canix helix. Basically super special werewolf dna that only work in natives of fenris making it impossible for the space wolves to recruit from anywhere else.
Side effects of the canis helix include the continued growing of fangs with age, yellowing eyes, much hair and terrible taste in haircuts as well as the occasional critical failure of the canix helix resulting in going full wolfman, i.e. wolfen.
>>44367674
sicaran
How do I win with tau? :(
>>44367495
So you don't want to have another person to play with? Shame.
But hey, she got you a gift, that's nice. I've never gotten gifts from anybody bar family.
Of course, being bed ridden for 6 years and having no sexual desire of any worth since I was 12 due to brain damage makes that hard...
Unlike my penis.
>>44367535
Wow. Nice. For the last 4 or 5 years, my dad delayed Xmas gifts for me, with a plan of buying a huge display table for my Lizardmen army, but my friends board company lost the dirt cheap China supplier, so went from £45 for a 2x2 fully flocked + water feature to £100 for 2x2.
Ended up giving up on it and he went "Fine, when you want to build a new PC, I'll give you £1500 towards it, plus the new monitor you want". So, plus the £250 "I O U" he gave me, by 2017 I'll have bout £2k to spend on a PC with £500~ for a new monitor.
>>44367779
Here is you (You). Run along boy.
>>44365101
I like the OP. Festive
Reposting From the HH thread:
Hey, 30K general I need some serious help!
I have been building a 30k army for some time now and I got the Calth box set as a Christmas gift and I have no idea how to integrate the models with what I have.
Here's what I have:
Sons of Horus with Orbital Assault RoW:
>Loken
>Command Squad
>Libby termie
>Forge lord on a jet-bike
>Terminator squad with power weapons, bolters, and a reaper
>2 Apothecaries
>Contemptor Mortis
>10 man Tacticals with bolters
>20 man Tacticals with bolters
>3 jet-bikes
>Storm eagle
>Fire raptor
>5 man autocannon squad
>5 normal drop pods
>dread drop pod
>>44367782
I really don't want a girl as a gaming partner. I think she gave it as a joke or she was out and saw something with Warhammer on it and decided it to be niceI get hit on but I'm asexual, so it's futile.
>>44367779
How do you lose with tau? : ^)
>>44367782
>2k britbong tea dipped coins
You can build a good pc with like 600 pounds dude. Ask /g/ or /v/ if you're frisky.
>>44365682
>Most of the Stormclaw box
>Leman Russ Battle Tank
>2 BaC boxes
>Centurions
>10 FW MkIII Iron Armour marines
>1 FW Leviathan Dreadnought
I have a sickness...
>>44367821
My BA friend beat me while I was playing Hunter Contingent.
>>44365966
It's what i'm doing, so I certainly hope so.
>>44367779
Take two Stormsurges and markerlights.
Don't deploy like an idiot.
Shoot things. Make sure you shoot with the markerlights first (important!).
Laugh at the opponent and boast about the superiority of Tau and the Greater Good.
>>44367818
Not to pry but ate you asexual by birth? I'm definitely not asexual but I have so little interesting in women after the last one that I would just prefer to be single the rest of my life.
>>44365966
Why are so many people asking this?
Were you guys unaware FW was a thing? They've been making pre-heresy armor for 40k since 2010 and 2011, before 30k was even a game.
Power armor is power armor. Horus Heresy as a game only exists because FW's 40k ancient armor kits were so popular.
>>44367876
>I lie on an anonymous image board
>>44367974
For simplicity let's just say I have no interest in relationships
The definition of asexual is iffy
If a character that gives a unit interceptor while he's attached to it, does it also apply to the transport he/they are in?
>>44368119
Stop making fun of the Breacher/Stealth Suit/Vespid player.
>>44367876
What points level, what do you run, what did he run?
>>44368147
Ah same here, all those "definitions" are very vague
How do you use warbuggys?
Are good runned in squads of 1,2,3, or 5?
>>44368185
I'm not sure, but I think it doesn't, because he's attached to his squad, not the transport. Simply being in the transport won't confer the rule unless it specifically says so, like Scout.
>>44368147
That's not asexual. A playboy or bachelor isn't asexual.
Are you sexually attracted to something? If yes, you're not asexual. You can't fap to women then claim you're asexual cause bitches be crazy.
I just realized exactly how good of a value Betrayal at Calth is. For 150 MSRP, you get an 800 point army, with no upgrades, only one HQ and a basic bitch Dread.
>>44368331
Well hold on to your pants, because you'll want to do the calculations for Sanctus Reach and Deathstorm.
>>44365682
31 fire warriors, most of whom need stripping and re-priming
16 pathfinders
5 stealth suits
ghostkeel
riptide
commander
30 or so drones
commander
5 sternguard
5 scouts
captain
>>44367241
War Convocation and Battle Company are okay assuming you're only playing against Eldar/Tau/Battle Company/Decurion/War Convo. Knights are okay so long as the other guy knows about it beforehand, although some armies still aren't going to play against you.
>>44368380
Battle Company is fine unless you're putting grav on everything and using White Scars. The army is built around not dying. It's literally the Rocky/Real Steel Atom/punching bag army.
Oh no, watch out for those scary objective secured RHINOS and TACTICAL MARINES!
>>44368412
Against a lot of armies, 500+ points in free Razorbacks is quite the handicap.
That said, Battle Company is easily the casual friendliest army that I listed. For friendly games, I find its best to stick to CAD base only unless they other guy has his own decurion-style detachment.
>>44368363
God I wish I Had gotten my hands on Grukk before he was 40 minimum
>>44368458
500 free points?? Wtf am I reading
>>44368458
Too bad RBs are the inferior option compared to Rhinos or Drop Pods.
It's not 300+ free points when you consider how expensive and overpriced marine units are. He's not taking Riptides and Scouts.
>>44368481
Max you can get is ten free Razorbacks for 550 points. Obviously its not a net 550, since you need the captain and the chaplain, and a more cuthroat army will probably swap some of the Assault and Devastator squads for Bikes and Centurions.
>>44368526
You can get two more free DTs if you take Command Squads, who aren't terrible with 5 special weapons. BC is also dragged down by the mandatory auxiliary tax.
>>44368518
Free units are free units, when do I get 300-500 free points worth of Orks
>>44368549
>implying GW isn't going to flip back to toning down codex power levels and options by the time Orks, DEldar, and CSM get new codexes
>>44368549
There's that FW unit that gives you the big walker for super cheap.
At this point I'm getting sick of Orks trying to use their shitty codex trying to justify stupid changes to everyone else.
>>44368526
It's a formation?? Or group doesn't have vanilla Marines in it so I wasn't familiar with it, free shit, Razorbacks or not, is pretty damn insane
>>44368549
Okay, so nerf vanilla marines and piss off the customers who are literally keeping the company afloat.
Meanwhile, Tyranids, War Convocation, etc all still get more "free" or discounted stuff, are stronger, AND you've solved nothing. Orks still left with no free shit and all you did was fuck over marines. See why you're a dumbass yet?
>>44368587
It's part of the Space Marine "Gladius Strike Force" detachment. The basic formation that makes it up is a demi-company with either a Captain or a Chaplain, 0-1 Command Squads, 3 Tactical Squads, 1 Assault Squad (or Speeder, Bike Squad, or Assault Centurions), and 1 Devastator Squad (or Devastator Centurions). If you take two, one with a Chaplain and one with a Captain, all the Dedicated Transports are free.
>>44368587
Daemon Summoning has been here for a long time.
Tyranids have gotten free spawning units like Gargoyles and Tervigon forever.
IG has respawning DKoK forever.
Old editions had free units too.
Stop being retards. Nobody takes RBs, which are overpriced to begin with, and free Rhinos and pods are only 35 points a pop and nearly mandatory because of how bullshit xenos armies are in the first place.
>>44365682
I'm mass producing yiff marines tonight
Battle Company is shit. Free transports means nothing when marine transports are so crappy. The reason BC is so bullshit is Objective Secured and Chapter Tactics on everything.
>>44368578
Don't make me sad anon it's Christmas lol
>>44368583
Want justifying anything, I just have not heard of this before, getting free points sounds insane even compared to the Tau and Necron decurions. Didn't mean to come off whiny sorry
>>44368607
>>44368583
You faggots need to learn how to read. He never said that SM should lose it, he said Orks should get free shit too.
I'm of the stance that nobody should get free shit, but that would require a ton of new codexes for armies that don't need them. So fuck it, everybody should get free shit.
>>44368655
Then you shouldn't post and do some Googling instead because you've been living under a rock. Free units isn't even a new thing. See >>44368628
Daemons shit out literally 1000 points of free shit every turn and triple their army size over the course of a game. KDK shits out Destroyer weapon swinging Bloodthirsters. Tyranids shits out double digits of gants per turn and regenerates all their Gargoyles. War Convocation gets free wargear which is way better than free Rhinos (or Razorbacks because you people are fucking idiots).
>>44368646
free razorbacks isn't something to laugh at when you get ten free razorbacks.
>>44368607
When did I say nerf anything, calm down marine your codexs are safe
>>44368626
Ah I see, thank you for the explanation
>>44368657
Who said Orks wouldn't get free shit? They haven't been touched since the Decurion free shit cycle started. You're making up stupid non-existent issues. Orks don't have free shit BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN AROUND TO GETTING THEM YET MORON.
If you don't even know what a fucking Gladius is then maybe you shouldn't be fucking talking and whining to begin with?
>>44368684
Maybe if you stopped being an idiot and used Google for once in your worthless life you wouldn't have to tell people to calm down on /tg/ all the time. Maybe it's not that everyone's an angry neckbeard, but you're just constantly being an annoying retard who never figures out anything for himself.
Let me guess, you come and ask /tg/ every time you have a question or problem.
>>44368675
Like I said my 3 (4 including me) don't play vanilla, no reason to know them but thanks for being so calm and understanding instead of flipping out. Hope you have a nice Christmas :)
>random ork anon asks about free stuff
>suddenly all the space marine players get super defensive and start insulting people at random
>>44368688
I'm not the Ork guy. We're all aware of why Orks haven't gotten their freebies yet, so take a chill pill.
>>44365880
>>44365970
>>44366021
This, I had a coworker laugh at me when I mention I was getting into the hobby.
>mfw I wasn't talking to her
>tfw even my friend though it was rude of her
>>44368709
Did you not get what you wanted for Christmas big guy? Maybe you can go to your friends houses and play on their Xbox before school starts again
Sorry for asking about the formation Marines, should have Googled it instead of asking the community
lol how do people not know about battle company
>>44368762
>implying it's Christmas in North America
>too stupid to use proper punctuation
>probably posting from a mobile device
>shitposts
>doesn't know common knowledge
>can't use Google
Daily reminder that moot was right about EU and AU being the majority of shitposters ruining /tg/.
>>44368762
You sure you're not too busy crying about your orks to be making fun of others?
>>44368816
I'd rather have new people asking questions than assholes that flip a shit about things that weren't even posted. One is a person at least trying to learn.
>>44368846
Thanks, learned my lesson to not talk about marines, ever
>>44367627
Also be prepared to paint lots of wolf pelts and hair/beard skins since they love wolves ro the point of wearing them and dislike helmetsit messes up their outragous haircuts
>>44368789
Just don't google Eldar. They're so retarded they're actually stronger when they DON'T use their formations.
And they have some ridiculous bullshit bonuses like running 6 inches.
>>44368846
>trying to learn
>doesn't even google
Yeah no you're part of the problem. I'd rather not have stupid questions filling up /tg/. You act like we didn't have a bunch more just this day like some guy asking "how do I use nail polish remover to remove paint" in its own thread instead of a post in WIP.
Hey, quick question /tg/ : 2 X-Mases, I got the Dark Vengeance box set. Still got most of the things from it, and I had painted a few models, but I picked up Mechanicus when they came out.. What should I do with the leftovers? Both Chaos and Dark Angels, as well as the rulebook.
>>44368885
Is it about marines, or is it about you being a moron? That you think this is some space muhroon related thing shows you're still an idiot who hasn't learned anything. I look forward to your future idiotic posts like "what's a starter kit" and "Betrayal of Calth saves you money?"
>>44368846
>I'd rather have shitposting that leads to more shitposts than reactive shitposts
About that...
>>44368846
I'd rather have newfags lurking more.
>>44368885
Honestly, that's just one or two angry retards.
Battle Company isn't even that bad to play against, and it pales in comparison to the bullshit of the rest of the armies that I listed way back in >>44368380 . Hell, it's not even the worst SM shit to play against.
I think people get touchy about Space Marine competitiveness because the codex, like Daemons, is actually pretty middle of the pack, outside of a handful of units/builds.
>>44368203
>>44368119
Apocalypse death Company formation. Short board deployment, jumped behind LOS cover, my SMS didn't couldn't break the FNP, I made a Tactical error with my screen and he assaulted my melta Buffmander, my supporting fire fell flat and I just conceded.
>>44368995
People get touchy because there's too many idiots on /tg/ these days. And it's always ork/nid players.
>>44369034
I should say Lamartes survived my Plasma Suits and XV88 supporting fire.
He also murdered my Skyfire XV88 with the Gunship.
>>44368995
At least the angry retards know what google and battle company are. Butthurt and anger are the norm for 40k threads, but at the very least, know what you're talking about.
>>44368944
Think it's more about two people overreacting to someone who doesn't play against marines overreacting about a formation, but like I said my bad
>>44369067
>>44369065
>>44368995
>>44368816
Shut the hell up. We had a nice string of non cancer threads in the spirit of Christmas.
My Christmas wish to Santa is for the shit posters to fuck off.
>>44369112
And like I've said 4 times, my fault for not using Google, sorry for ruining the atmosphere
>>44369112
Generals are inherently cancerous.
>>44369144
Just ignore the shit heads. Replying to them makes their Khornate rage go into over drive while they stuff hot pockets down their throats.
>>44369158
They don't have to be.
Hey guys, Ork player from earlier in the last thread >>44359704
I think I have finalized a 1500 point list. I have a bit of wiggle room and I am not sure how people run Meganobs these days so I gave them the most expensive loadout to ensure room for any changed.
I don't post lists so sorry if its a shitty format
I need to shave off 1 point as I am over right now. Could just lose a boy.
Here is what I am working with:
HQ:
Warboss w/ BP, PK, Shoota (90pts)
Elites:
9 Meganobz w/ Killsaws in a Battlewagon w/ Killkannon (545pts)
9 Tankbustas + Boss Nob w/ BP, PK (170pts)
Troops
2x 11 Shoota Boyz w/ BP, PK Nob in Trukk (142pts ea)
Heavy Support
Battlewagon (110pts)
2x 10 Lootas (140pts ea)
1501/1500But anon, killcannon a shit on battlewagon! I know but I have two, one with and one without and I am to dumb to have magnetized.
Getting back into 40k after a long hangover (10 years) and wanted to play Inquisition. Been mulling around with the codex and came up with this list:
Inquisition List
HQ
Ordos Xenos Inquisitor (81pt.) Liber Heresius, Pysker (ML 1), Force Sword, Power Armor, Servo Skull (1)
Elites
Henchmen (269pt.)
>3x-Acolyte, Carapace Armor, Plasmagun
>3x-Crusader
>1x- Jokaero Weaponsmith
>1x- Pysker
Dedicated Transport
>Valkyrie
Offico Assassinorium
Elites
Vindicare Assassin (150pt.)
Total 500pts
Couple of questions. Is playing a flyer/assassin at this point level unfair? Is the makeup of my henchmen good and are they kitted out correctly? Is the Vindicare a good fit for this list or should I go with a different assassin?
Thanks in advance!
Merry Christmas WH40k general
Are pindle and sponson weapons worth taking on Leman Russ or are they just point fillers?
I have a feeling I am getting one tomorrow.
>>44369262
Firing an ordnance weapon makes the other guns snap fire, so not great on a stock LR.
>>44369244
People complain about fliers at 1000, yet alone 500. It depends on your opponent though.
I don't know squat about assassins or inquisition though I am just a loyal Dark Angel.
>>44369232
I like the list a lot actually, but I have a fetish for Meganobz. I would probably take a couple with killsaws but the rest normal, TLshootas can actually put out some hurt.
Just make sure anything with AP2 never gets more than 1 round shooting at them, Instant Death on Meganobz hurts
>>44366519
Hey bro. Sorry I should explain more. I'm a previous fantasy player and did lots of 2000 points tourneys. I've had enough exposure to 40k to have a rudimentary understanding of the game and what I'm getting myself into.
Nor going up against armour I just want a mech last and figured the leman russ provided the best AA capability.
>>44369245
Merry Christmas Anon :)
>>44369244
Why not go for the Colexus and genuinely fuck with psyker armies.
>>44369353
O great that will free up the point I was over. If I can squeeze it after trimming the killsaws should I invest in a lone deffkopta or another TankBusta.
Only have 8 actual tank busta but I am using two of my nobs as count-as. I think thats fair since he is bringing three Leman Russ.
Also I was able to get a better grasp of his 1500 list from his roommate. He has a Wyvern and a Hydra. It is actually 3x10 groups of veterans in Chimeras. A 10 man scion unit in a Taurox Prime. He prefers plasma on the vets and meltas on the scions.
I might getrekt
>>44369245
Merry Christmas
>>44369302
>loyal
>Dark Angel
Pick one and only one
>>44369474
Haha just be glad he doesn't fit his vets like my bud does Heavy Flamer, Flamer, melta.
I have never used one but I've been told Deffkoptas are great, try to hide it or outflank it so it doesn't give a free FirstBlood
>>44369232
put the meganobs in the wagon without the kannon,you want them moving up.
no hate on the gunwagon, it can be good fun
>>44369515
I wish the Dark Angels would just go balls out and let the truth come out and dare the Inquisition to come after them.
>>44366403
I personally think melee would be best. One power scourge, everything else swapped for power fists. Move up the board dropping battle cannon shots (You have to snap fire everything else anyways) and then charge with 7 power fist attacks, and the flail's WS lowering.
>>44369566
So bustas in kannonwaggon? Aren't they both not really wanting it.
>>44369112
>unironic shitposting about shitposting
>>44369650
Hide post and move on, fellas.
>>44369144
More like thanks for restoring the normal atmosphere, amirite?
>>44369645
Well the AP3 Killkannon and Rokkits kinda want to shoot the same targets, however they can fire at different things if you need too (which I always forget)
>>44369187
>They don't have to be.
>cancer doesn't have to be cancerous
I don't think you understand what he meant when he said inherently. I'm guessing you weren't on 4chan when /vg/ wasn't created yet.
>>44365375
Emperors Day you say...
>>44369245
>>44369369
>>44369484
inb4 Christianity triggers someone
>muh kwanzaa
>muh hanukkah
>muh festivus
>>44369748
This is 4chan not Tumblr
So I wanted to know how many points you guys think a Stompa should be.
Only reason I'm asking is because after my buddy talked me turn one I mentioned the Buzzgob Stompa and its reduced cost and he was encouraging me to field it. I'm just afraid that it's going to be too good
>tfw no money to put together a little Lamenters army
>tfw I probably wouldn't get along with the guys who play this stuff around my uni
>tfw i'd probably play a few weeks then give up
>>44369816
Then stop now and find something else to do.
>no money
No hobby
>>44369860
I'm tempted to just get a few cheap marines, try painting them, and just have them around my desk.
>>44369801
400 points is a good value for a superheavy (wraithknight withstanding). i think the necron lords of war and some of the old chaos superheavies are at that price.
>>44369816
good news then; the lamenters are down to single digit members so just a sarge and you're done!
>>44369816
>tfw the guys at the flgs are chill bros
>tfw wide variety of armys and powerlevels
>tfw my crazy ork gunline can win about 50% of the time and feels good
>>44369903
>good news then; the lamenters are down to single digit members so just a sarge and you're done!
Everything I find says like 300~200?
>>44369801
Super Heavies aren't the gods they used to be
>>44369920
you might be right, last recall the last remaining member was a dread hanging with the deathwatch and they ran into a tyranid fleet. then again i remember something about they were being watched by another chapter so when they ran into the tyranids they were able to both barely get away
>>44369903
400 is a bit on the cheap side for a stompa, it should be closer to 500.
>>44369957
I believe the dread in DW THINKS hes the only remaining Lamenter, but there are others, supposedly (according to 1d4, lexicanum, and the 40k wiki)
>>44368458
dont underestimate obsec on everything in the list. Its gross.
>>44369801
That 400 point Buzzgob Stompa is the only way the Stompa is even playable. Put it this way: it's still more expensive than WKs and Stormsurges, which are the best units in the game.
What CSM units should I field against Dark Eldar?
The guy at my gaming club fields almost nothing but Raiders, and Loleth Hesperax.
My army is still WIP
-1 Daemon Prince
-1 Sorceror
-3 Terminators
-3 Bikes
-1 Chaos Lord
-20 Cultists
-5 CSMs
-1 Helbrute
-5 Warp Talons
-6 Chosen
I also possess some Screamers of Tzeentch, and a Khorgorath from AoS I've been proxying as a 60mm unit.
>>44370012
Wow WKs are less than 400pts? That's kinda nutty
>>44370049
Noise Marines will make him cry.
Actually, Crimson Slaughter suppliment w/Slaanesh marks? Fear across the board. Roll for the warlord trait that gives a -3 to fear tests. Rape the pissant elves.
>>44370049
>-1 Daemon Prince
Make this guy wings with ML3 and Nurgle/Tzeentch/Slaanesh
>-3 Terminators
Deep Strike these with meltas and axes/mauls
>-3 Bikes
SLaanesh
>-1 Chaos Lord
Drop this guy unless he's on a jugger
>-20 Cultists
>-1 Helbrute
Use one of those Hel formations for these
>Warp Talons
Drop em or use them as Raptors
Ally Screamers + Fateweaver
>>44370049
I would get a Drake and a Forge fiend.
>>44370070
WKs are 295 points. Riptides are 200-225. Stormsurge are 360.
All of them are about 50-100 points undercosted, or more. So yeah, I would let Ork players take Buzzgob.
>>44370070
295 points is criminally cheap for a WK
>>44370133
>All of them are about 50-100 points undercosted, or more
And all of them can be taken in multiples for even more point savings!
/tg/
I present to you "Da nioight befo' orkzmas"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfbUq6vwa8
Have a Merry Sanguinius Day, and a Happy Orksmas!
>>44369910
NOT AGAINST MY ORK WALKER LIST YOU WONT!
>>44370178
Also I didn't make this or anything, buddy of mine discovered it recently
>>44370133
>>44370135
>>44370142
Glad I don't have any Tau Eldar in my little group then, jeez. Is there anything else in that IA that helps? I saw the Supa Kanon and thought that might be good to throw on some wagons
>>44370133
You will never see a stormsurge for less than 440 points, because the other gun is an upgrade and so much better, and the shield is mandatory and 50 points. Still its pretty damn good for the points, still undercosted.
>>44370178
MY SIDES NEVER EXISTED
>>44370215
The thing is they wouldn't be able to do their dumb squadron (basically just take 2) rule if the Stormsurge cost what it SHOULD cost (titan levels).
As if GW didn't realize taking more than one Stormsurge is already fucking absurd. Only Knights should be getting multiple superheavies, and even that is suspect.
You don't squadron Warhounds even though in the fluff they hunt in packs. You don't squadron Baneblades. You don't squadron Wraithknights. You don't even squadron Knights or Riptides. But HURR DE DURR MISSILE ARMS SQUADROON MUH STURMSURGES
>>44370199
>Orks fighting Orks
Does this happen in the fluff?
>>44366106
you sound like a pretty cool dude, anon :)
>>44370283
All the time. It's the main reason why they're not all united as a single warband.
>>44370283
they fight eachother probably more often than other xenos
>>44367779
just hide in your deployment zone like every other Tau player I've fought
>>44370283
That's literally Orks' default state of existence. Do sharks swim? Do rabbits fuck? Do humans human?
>>44370318
That's why you should play a match with objectives.
>>44370283
UWOT
Lissen grotface, as soon as Im done wit killin deze ere 47 boyz, ur next.
>>44370355
You realize he'll have some objectives on his side of the table too right.
>>44370355
>>44370318
tau don't take ground, they kill you dead and then go spit on your corpse
>>44370410
Yeah but there should be at least one in the middle that neither player laid down. Otherwise you get people playing lame like that.
>>44370425
>don't waste time holding ground
>slaughter enemies
>haughty attitude
>don't like or use psychic powers
>huge guns and suits
ya know, i get the feeling that khorne likes these guys but not as much as orks since orks will take skulls/heads
>>44370450
The problem is those fucking Tau either have clear shot at the middle, or can just jetpack there, shoot, jetpack away.
Unless you're lucky and rolled the long table deployment. But even then unless you're exerting a lot of early pressure and speed, the Tau can deploy closer to the middle and slowly waddle back.
>>44370468
I like the old piece of fluff that says Khornes face has some distinctly Orly features on it
>mfw Khorne is actually an Ork Kommando :^)
>>44370586
ya know, i would like it if we got some tainted xenos in the next book. kinda like chaos orges or dragon orges (inb4AoS/Whfb fight)
>>44370654
It all makes sense now
>>44370692
That would actually be pretty cool.
I've seen artwork of Nurgle Orks in the old Daemonhunters codex. What would make an Ork choose one of the other gods over Khorne. I have a Weirdboy who is Korupt but I haven't chosen a god (that isn't Khorne)
>>44367162
Crons, sD eldars and sD tau don't give a fuck.
>>44370736
teen angst. i'm dead serious. it's done as a form of rebellion to upset the warboss until he says knock that shit off. as for nurgle orks, i remember reading about those but i thought they were just zombies
>>44370755
Also armies nobody wants to play against. Even against each other they will groan.
>>44367814
Bump?
>>44370767
Hahaha, would it be conceivable for one to make a deal with a Greater Daemon to try and overthrow his Warboss? (I was heavily influenced by Warcraft Ghuldan orc)
>>44370830
yes, greater daemons or even heralds love doing that.
>>44370774
This is a 40k thread for a reason. Don't hold your breath for 30k help.
>>44370049
List tailoring against Dark Eldar is pretty douchey. Their army is weak to begin with and they will be unable to beat an army built around flamers. A single Heldrake would actually pummel a Dark eldar army without much fight back.
>>44370281
>You don't even squadron Riptides
Wut?
>>44370998
Well they do take up multiple slots.
>>44370736
Plain old Chaos corruption.
Chaos worms its way into their minds and claims them.
>>44371037
That's really cool lore, is there any Slaanesh ones. Is assume not
>>44370049
Take anything DEldar are one of the worst codexes rights now definitely contender for worst 7th edition codex.
At least orks have buzzgob, and some decent formations.
Da boss has a daemon in iz head. He iz going all spiky on uz.
Wat do?
>>44371034
Nope, you can take 3 riptides squad.
>>44371090
Codex: Squadron Everything
>>44371144
>Why can the army who's design is to have dudes working together get to squadron!
Yes gameplay wise its dumb, but fluffwise Tau are always working in squads.
>>44371207
Yea, and fluffwise Space Marines would stomp pretty much everything with how many you field nowadays.
>>44371089
krump da boss
>>44371315
But if we krump da boss, and we fail, den whut we gonna do?
Ghazghkull got runover by a wartrukk
Walking 'Ome from Da Drops Orkzmas Eve
Uze' can say deres' no such ting as McNick
But az' fer me an' Grotsnik, we'z believe
Ee'd been drinkin too much Squignog
An we'z begged dim not ta go
But ee'd furgotten iz ol' Kill-Klaw
And den ee' trudg'd out da door into da snow
When we'z found 'im Orkzmas mornin,
at da scene of dee attack,
He had tiretracks on iz' forehead,
and incriminatin' Choppa markz on iz back
Ghazghkull got runover by a wartrukk
Walking 'Ome from Da Drops Orkzmas Eve
Uze' can say deres' no such ting as McNick
But az' fer me an' Grotsnik, we'z believe
Now we'z all so proud ah Grotsnik
Ee'z been taking it so well,
See im' in dere watching Bloodbowl,
Drinkin beer and playin' cards with Warboss Grukk
Itz' not Orkzmas without Ghazghkull,
All da boyz iz dressed in black,
An' we'z can't help but wonder,
Should we'z pilfer iz' bitz or put em back?
(PUTS EM BACK!)
Ghazghkull got runover by a wartrukk
Walking 'Ome from Da Drops Orkzmas Eve
Uze' can say deres' no such ting as McNick
But az' fer me an' Grotsnik, we'z believe
Now da Meatz iz on da table
An' da pudding made of Squig (ahh)
An' da blue and shiny shootas
Dat would 'ave matched the flare of Ghazghkull's rig
I've warn'd all mah boyz and Nobz,
"Better watch out fer yer rumps",
Dey should never give out Choppaz
To an Ork who drives a sliegh an plays with Elves
Ghazghkull got runover by a wartrukk
Walking 'Ome from Da Drops Orkzmas Eve
Uze' can say deres' no such ting as McNick
But az' fer me an' Grotsnik, we'z believe
Ghazghkull got runover by a wartrukk
Walking 'Ome from Da Drops Orkzmas Eve
Uze' can say deres' no such ting as McNick
But az' fer me an' Grotsnik, we'z believe
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
MERRY ORKZMAS YOU GROTS
>>44371299
>mfw in the fluff they don't move entire companies except for Black Crusades and Armageddon
>mfw you can play a company on the table against some random faggot cadre of Tau or gaggle of Tyranids
>>44371336
fucking 10/10 boss
>>44371345
It is a shame the games scale has changed so much. I think a squad of marines used to be 300 points or something.
How many of the original Traitor Legions are still RELATIVELY intact? I know the World Eaters, Night Lords, and Emperor's Children are totally shattered. We've got Word Bearers and Iron Warriors for sure, Black Legion "count" as Sons of Horus. So what's up with the Thousand Sons. Death Guard, and Alpha Legion?
>>44371336
I love you
>>44371391
>Thousand sons
Were one of the smallest legions which then got fucked by SW and the rest of the heresy, then got fucked again by the rubric.
They barely exist anymore
>Death Guard
If they aren't following typhus around with his one ship then they are just pouting on mortarion's daemon world.
>Alpha legion
They are secretly everyone on every side of the conflict they just don't know it yet.
In practical terms this means they are completely irrelevant and extremely fractured.
>>44371391
>1k sons
split between those that follow ahriman and those that hang out with magnus. a few go out and do warband stuff though. really small legion, not sure if it counts as one since 80-90% are rubrics
The core of my Ork army is going to be the Blitz Brigade
Ill put 2 squads of 10 nobz with big choppas and a klaw in 2 of the wagons. 2 squads of 10 Flash Gitz in another 2, and a squad of either Meganobz or Lootas in the last. Ill probably run a Mekboy Junka with the field in the center to cover them
>>44371679
bullyboyz with blitz brigade is a lot of fun
>>44365966
absolutely
In fact I find them better than average. Really a cool buy especially the termies my only grief is that Contemptor is lame looking
>>44371745
I'm planning to turn mine into some super sexychaos termies. Add trophy racks, other chaos-y adornments.
Is there an online store that just has a huge assortment of different sizes, shapes and textures of styrene?
I just want a fuckload huge assortment
>>44371774
Neat
II have a space wolf army with a lot of chaos bits
Fire Crisis with dual Flamers and Vectored Retro-thrusters or Burst Crisis with Burst Cannons + Airbursting Fragmentation Projector vs horde armies like Tyranids and Orks?
MERRY EMPERORS DAY /tg/!
I HOPE YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED!
>>44372001
Horde armies aren't worth tailoring against. Firstly, they're uncommon, and second, they're not that strong. Simple high volume units like Stormsurge will mow most of them down.
>>44372025
>emperor day
I THINK YOU MEAN MERRY LORGAR DAY, CORPSE-WORSHIPPERmerry lorgar day loyalist
>>44370049
Noise Marines!
You need Noise Marines, they are by far the best Cult Troops (not saying much, since all the others suck so bad).
Also, 5 Flamer/5 Chosens are pretty good.
MERRY ORKSMAS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfbUq6vwa8
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!
>>44368216
Outflanking Skorchas can be fun, otherwise stick to rokkits.
5 if you use rokkits, otherwise 3 skorchas are usually enough
>>44372001
Just shoot missiles at them. AP4 and S7 means you're almost guaranteed to kill them with each shot if you've got markers on them. You don't have as many shots, but the efficiency should make up for it.
Plus, y'know, they're good against just about anything but Land Raiders, and for that there's Fusion.
>>44369232
Get some armour on that boss, MA, bike even jusy eavy armour, anything that give him protection from bolters at least.
>>44371774
>>44371958
my plan is to build the cataphractii with lightning claws and run them as a space wolves void claws formation...the best part? I'm gonna paint them as GK because I hate space wolves.
What's the more preferable unit.
Heldrake or Defiler?
Thinking of picking one up tomorrow.
>>44372734
Heldrake, defiler is outdated.
>>44372464
>muh wraithknights
>>44372238
Plague marines are bretty good
>>44371336
pretty gud
now we just need someone to actually sing it
>>44372892
It looks like Fulgrim.
That is not a compliment. I believe him to be the worst Primarch model.
>>44372769
Oh shit eight effective BS10 drop Meltas with monster hunters.
>>44372901
Hey at least this one has a backpack.
>>44372892
Needs a heavy bolter
>>44372892
What kind of gun is she holding?
So, I'm attempting to play the worst of the worst - CSM.
Black Legion to be specific. Starting from path to glory. It's a shame to not see one of the most infamous legions...
But, I need to integrate it to 650pts first, and we have pretty large number of SM players in my meta, so VoLW would probably benefit me a lot.
Any hard nutters who's stuck to CSM over the overpowering codices?
>>44372949
worst of the worst, absolute bottom of the barrel are either Sisters or Orkz
Everyone else has a way to at least bring cheese to stand a chance in the big dumb walker meta
>>44372974
Sisters are more middle pack than you might think: Their core is functional, they just lack options and specialists.
>>44372974
Without allies or FW support orks and sisters are ahead of CSM.
With fw added they fall behind, though with allies csm and sisters are about tied.
It does suck that orks have no BB allies and thst their closest allies are CSM.
>>44372974
Haha, Ok, I've just bashed up something to get me started at 650pts:
1 Sorcerer, ML2, Spell familiar, VoLW
10 CSM in rhino, 2 Plasma guns
5 CSM Vet in rhino, 3 Melta guns
1 Predator with AC, and HB sponsons
Surprisingly just dakka dakka army... I'll probs give divination to sorc and chuck it in with the chosen.
>>44373062
Oh, and a unit of 10 Cultists.
>>44372001
BC and air-bursting Frag. Just remember not to be a dick.
>>44370178
MERRY ORKMAS YA GITS
So, for ORDINARY Stealth Suits, which are still pretty shit, I am wondering: Why give them multitrackers built in, but only give them one weapon? That seems pretty pointless. It would be similar to giving terminators with stormshield and thunderhammer and no ranged weapons at all, the ability to skyfire. It is pointless and a waste of ressources.
So why can't stealth suits have two weapons? I mean shit, even dual pulse carbines would make more sense than a single burst cannon, just because it would actually use the multitracker.
Purely speaking from a fluff standpoint, of course. Pulse Carbines would also provide suppressive fire, which burst cannons don't, and considering that stealth suits are specifically noted to be doing just that.
It would also make them worth it outside from bullshit formations.
>>44365682
All mine are built but not painted.
20 Skitarii
Sydonian Dragoon
3 kataphrons
Techpriest Dominus
10 tac marines
SM Captain
And some Orks than I've been painting for practice/fun.
And I'm probably gonna be getting some Sicarian infiltrators soon.
>>44365682
30 Skitarii
1 dragoon
2 Onegar
5 Rust stalkers
30CSM
2 CSM rhinos
shit. Time to crack them paints out.
>>44373196
The Shas'vre can get a marker light to go with his weapon, meaning he could fire both.
That said, Burst cannons aren't great on Stealth Suits. Tau don't lack for 5 5 shooting, and generally you'd want more punch from an infiltrating squad.
>>44373362
>That said, Burst cannons aren't great on Stealth Suits. Tau don't lack for 5 5 shooting, and generally you'd want more punch from an infiltrating squad.
I would honestly still think double pulse carbines would be better, and just make them swap out a carbine for a markerlight.
I know Tau aren't lacking in S5 shooting, but I wouldn't go about changing the loadout more than necessary.
>>44371345
Companies are used all the time in battles. The fuck are you talking about? 100 marines is absolutely nothing in 40k's scale.
>>44365682
~2200 pts of necrons at varying stages. very few grey but most just primed Platemale silver
~800 pts of Dark Angel Details
Merry christmas my darlings!
GW gives you a gift: To redesign your favorite useless model. Which one? The Defiler? All DE models?lolWhat would you do with it?
>>44373688
>Defiler
>Useless
It's a great model for conversion bits.
Personally I'd love a revamp of the Warbuggy/Wartrakk.
There's a limit to "classic character and charm"
>>44368932
sell chaos marines on ebay, keep dangles for allies, remodel cultists into fucked up skitarii or tech-cultists or the thrall jobbies from 30k
>>44373688
While not really 'useless' because they do a fantastic job of lowering the power level of a Necron army, I'd like to see the Canoptek Sentinel/Stalker get a rules update to fit with the current codex. Maybe give them an optional slot as part of the Canoptek Harvest formation.
>>44366687
That actually happened to me some years ago, where i got a vhs from pic related from my mum...
>>44369232
DA BOYZ ARE LOCKED N LOADED
Switched 7 of the Meganobs to have TL Shootas and gave the Warboss cybork body, eavy armour and the lucky stikk. Also put two rokkits on the kannon wagon to fill points.
MUURAY CHRUSHMIS YA GITS!
>>44372903
>eight effective BS10 drop Meltas with monster hunters
Its 200 pts worth crisises and 160 pts buffmander. Also ~100 pts of drones/pathfinders. Only for one wk.
>>44372877
They could be decent if they had access to some Icon that isn't complete and utterly bullshit.
For a unit that should be one of the toughest out there, it's disappointing.
>>44373951
Have fun bud, I'd put the Warboss in mega armour though :)
>>44374138
Worth dropping the gubbins I just gave him and drop a single shoota boy and the BW rokkits for mega armour?
>>44373512
100 marines is 10% of an average chapter though?
A force of that size getting tabled during a game would literally decimate a Chapter. They'd have to have near perfect gene seed and equipment recovery to not die off after only a few years.
I hope this isn't coming across as my autism being triggered or me criticising or anything. I'm really not. I just think there's plenty of instances where fluff and crunch produce funny disparities, same with plenty games, be they tabletop or vidya or whatever
>>44373951
Best of luck! Let us know how it goes.
>>44374170
>100 marines is 10% of a full strength (which is rare) chapter though?
FIFY
>>44374177
Easy to see why they'd rarely be full strength with how many of them died when I used to play marines.
>>44374170
If it triggers you that much, you can go unbound and just count each individual Marine as a captain. 3 wounds and all that equipment means your force will be much closer to 10-20 marines rather than several dozen.
>>44374152
Definitely, Mega Armour plus Lucky Stikk can take a lot
>>44374209
"Dying" in the game doesn't mean they really die.
Otherwise most of the Characters would be super-dead by know.
Normal Marines really die something like once every 50 times they fall.
>>44369910
>You will never have 15 kannons or lobbas
>You will never run 15 warbuggys with twin linked rokkits
>You will never run 45 tankbustas in battlewagons
>>44374345
That sounds horrendous, Deffkoptas over av10 any day
>>44374464
>6 to glance from bolters vs 5's to wound from bolters
Nah m8
>>44374488
>can't get immobilized
>can't get wagon destroyed
>can't explode from bolters
Plz no troll on Christmas ;^)
>>44374540
>deffkoptas can only be viable in squads of 1 because of moral
>2 HP means if I get immoblized or destroyed im probably was already dead from the other 4 glances
>Explosions glance on a 6
>warbuggy conversions > deffkopta conversions
Just stating the superior stuff m8
>>44374550
I will give you cooler conversions, how do you do yours? I'd totally get some if I knew a nice way to do them
>>44374582
I only made 1 so far, but my camera is shit. I basically copied this.
Show me some deffkopta conversions, I just want to convert vehicles ATM.
>>44374644
>that plasticard work
shit man, if i was more into mechanical designs i would be all over orks. i'm more into organic so it fits my daemons. now i gotta make some juggernaut necks and an upper body for a keeper of secrets
>>44374644
That looks sick, I unfortunately haven't been doing Deffkopta conversions either, just been trying to get the AoBR ones. I need to get plasticard
>>44374644
Also what thickness is that plasticard?
>>44374748
>>44374733
>>44374693
Heres a vid he made on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR9LEruUem4
>>44374819
Oh cool, tyvm
>>44367100
None. You cant have friends with that list
New Path to Glory it seems, Chaos only, doesn't do anything to fix shit and is based on the current rules. So essentially, it's useless. They gave CSM their own game because only other CSM players won't steamroll them lel
>>44374996
I like the concept and would like to try it out. Any pdfs available yet?
>>44375080
I don't know, I just saw it on naftka and saw its description really. don't get me wrong, I'm interested in the concept too and would make a nice read but it's infuriating that GW wastes its time doing this shit when the codex a lot of love. They are either painfully out of touch or flat-out malicious.
Any thoughts on the best loadout for the leviathan dreadnought? The options all look awesome.
>newfags don't know about sanguinala
Guys, is it bad idea to field taunar at 1k pts?
>>44375355
0/5 bad bait.
>>44375355
Obviously not. You owe it to your opponents to bring you A-game.
>>44375355
Merry Christmas bait-lord :)
>>44375117
I don't think CSM is any more horrible than, say, guard is. They have a few utterly useless units and a few pretty badass ones, but they're alright for hobby work and are fun in friendly games, like with this supplement. GW aren't malicious, but expecting them to make a balanced game is futile - they never have and never will.
>>44375355
Real talk from a different anon, what points level would this guy not garner hate at? Love the model, and play mostly Necrons, SM, and Eldar, so I was actually considering the purchase. Any anons who would play this at say, 2500?
>>44375543
I don't know about Guard level, IG friend smashes CSM friend all the time. I don't think they're as bad as people think with FW
>>44375588
I'd play against it at 1750+, and I play Orks lol
But why not? Its completely legal.
+++ New Roster (992pts) +++
++ Tau Empire: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) (992pts) ++
+ HQ (60pts) +
Cadre Fireblade (60pts) [Markerlight, Photon Grenades, Pulse Rifle]
+ Troops (200pts) +
Strike Team (100pts) [9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle (81pts), Photon Grenades]
Strike Team (100pts) [9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle (81pts), Photon Grenades]
+ Fast Attack (132pts) +
Pathfinder Team (66pts)
6x Pathfinder (66pts) [6x Photon Grenades, 6x Pulse Carbine with Markerlight]
Pathfinder Team (66pts)
6x Pathfinder (66pts) [6x Photon Grenades, 6x Pulse Carbine with Markerlight]
+ Lord of War (600pts) +
KX139 Ta'unar Supremacy Armour (600pts) [Barrier Shield Generator, 2x Fusion Eradicator, Pulse Ordnance Multi-driver, Vigilance Defence System]
>>44375610
>Hey lets play a game
>Sure
>Puts down Taunar
>Yeah no, fuck off
>>44375588
I'd say 2000, maybe 1500 if the other person has a solid force that can deal with it.
The thing is a lot of dakka in a durable package.
>>44375610
Well, I just need to kill your pathfinders and then get into melee with the strike teams.
Ignore the Taunar.
>>44375645
>ignore 10 melta shots and sD templates
>>44373009
Melta guns
Melta guns everywhere
>>44375700
What is a rerollable 2+ jink save?
>>44375598
>>44375543
Guard has a bad statline but has the option to take tons of strong guns for cheap on top of an order system to apply extra abilities when needed.
10 man veteran (bs4) squad with 3 ignores cover plasma guns? 95 points
av14 tank with 5 plasma cannons? 185 points.
>>44375781
>s8 ap3 ignore cover apocalyptic barrage
The Tyrant Guard can't join The Swarmlord? Am I missing something or am I gonna have to house rule this fucking bullshit.
>>44375860
Ouch
>>44375950
Anyone who isn't a douche shouldn't have a problem with it, especially as you are sinking like 500 points into a slow melee unit that dies to krak missiles like a bitch.
>>44375950
>>44375976
I don't play Tyranids, so I don't know if there are any FAQor if I'm being baitedbut in the Tyrant Guard rules it's explicitly said that a single Hive Tyrant (or the Swarmlord) can join a Tyrant Guard unit
>>44376008
It says "You may include one Tyrant Guard Brood for each Hive Tyrant (including the Swarmlord) in your army. These broods do not use up a FO slot"
>>44376008
>>44376061
>>44375976
Whoops. It's the "Shield Wall" special rule. Thanks all.
>>44375860
Have you ever tried to hitanything with apocalytic barrage? Jesus christ thats a crappy mechanism.
is 20 Stron CSM unit with Bile a valid unit to play? S5, fearless?
No running away, not even when bile is killed etc from the mutation rule he provides.
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