Not Another Ork Edition.
>Rules databases
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html
>FAQs
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata
>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V6.pdf
>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
First
SOME OF YOUS GITS ARE AWRIGHT.
DON'T GO TO DA NORTH WEST QUADRANT OF AMARMAGEDDN' TOMORZ.
SO LONG, YA GROTS.
How tall is Ghazkhul anyhow?
Not in his bulky armour, Ghaskhul himself.
The Orks getting bigger for being in charge thing isn't super well defined really.
>>44256842
I think he's +50% bigger than a regular Warboss.
Ghazkhul is relavtiely new warboss, so he won't be the Titan sized ones from the Great Crusade, nor is he as powerful as The Beast.
The thing is, he's suppose to be a prophet of Gork and Mork and sees something bigger than just fightan'. Which is why he left Armageddon in a stalemate and has gone to do something.
People are worried he'll eclipse The Beast in power, and since The Beast nearly conquered the Galaxy, it's while the Black Templars are so keen to kill him.
However, I don't think a specific size has been mentioned, I'm going on my own stupid gut feeling on his size. He is bigger than regular warbosses, but as I said, once upon a time, Warbosses were Titan sized.
>>44256896
>upon a time, Warbosses were Titan sized.
I will continue calling bullshit on this even if you provide proof.
>>44256896
>Warbosses were Titan sized.
I'm an Ork player/fan boy but that sounds like complete bull. You got a source for that? Da Beast wasn't even close to that big.
>>44256705
>Shit edition
>No Title
>Imuge.jpg
Stop making Generals, you always fuck something up.
>>44257022
>SoB courting Salamander.jpg
All that Dark Angel Iconography
It is like this fucking Salamander Chap that gets linked everytime a DA player gets degensive.
Trying my airbrush. Opinions?
>>44257056
What can I do to improve? How long do you let paint dry before hand brushing details?
>>44257000
>>44257010
>The Beast was perhaps the largest Ork Warboss ever encountered, which in Ork society denoted his power, prestige, and lethality. Said to be the size of a hab-block, The Beast made even Nobs appear as mere children in his presence and his tusks were the size of tree trunks
From "I Am Slaughter" which came out a few weeks ago.
>>44257116
>said to be
so orkish exaggeration
>>44257161
I suspect he'll be seen in combat by Imperial forces at some point, he was eventually killed.
Either way, he was fucking huge. Ghaz doesn't come close currently.
>>44257116
I know later 40k sources have issues with not understanding when something from an earlier source was blatant hyperbole,
But goddamn man.
>>44257161
inb4
>orks believe it so it's true
>>44257226
Well, The Beast is pretty special. I'd need to find the sources again, but I swear there is a source that says, during Battle of Ullanor, the Warboss and his Nob Bodyguard "rivalled the size of the immense Titans" or something daft.
I want to say it's in Visions of Heresy, but I don't have it on me.
Either way, Orks were big during the Great Crusade because they had constantly fought and nobody had rivalled them. Then came Imperium and they got killed.
The Beast was the most powerful one mentioned. He nearly conquered the Galaxy.
Dude was huge, I wonder how he'll 'die'.
>>44256804
Orkik Harris and Dylan KleWaaagh?
Seung-Hui Chork?
>>44257375
The Beast is another Ork, not the one from Ullanor.
>>44257375
Horus stabbed the shit out of him after he actually made the Emperor stumble.No, he did not "choke him out."
>>44256705
>>44256705
>chickenpic
>not even the good chickenpic
>no title
>no guide to arguments
you is a grot
Do we have the corsair list anywhere currently? I keep hearing that they're the Dark Eldar that Dark Eldar should've been.
>GW makes a great box set for the holiday season
>Discontinues it the week before Christmas
Sasuga, GW.
>>44257631
Shit, I had been meaning to buy that.
Oh well, it wasn't discounted, anyway.
What are some of the themes you use/want to use for your armies? I don't just mean color schemes I mean thematic themes too.
>>44257678
Are those bionicle themed wraiths? That's fucking dope.
Dude at my LGS has three lovingly painted Riptides that have been done up as the Evangelions. His Ethereal is Gendo, complete with gloves and glasses.
>>44257659
>JW
>discounting
>>44257659
It offered around a ~25% discount.
>>44257758
I'm sure the discount some things.They definitely discount the idea of ever lowering prices.
>>44257798
Seriously? I thought it was exactly the same price.
I'm going off the American price, so if you're a britfag it's not inconceivable the prices are a little lower.
>>44257678
I want to run a swamp-fighter themed Tau army, have a lot of infantry and suits with maybe a riptide or two as the biggest guns in the army.
I don't want to repaint my current Tau though and I don't want to get more fire warriors.
>>44257862
All kroot all the time
>>44257845
Canadian but I just checked the GW American site and it offered a slightly worse discount but it still comes within a percentage point of a 25% discount. The Maniple and SM demi company box they released for the holidays are the only box sets I know of that they've released with discounts recently.
>>44257862
>Riptides
>In a swamp
That doesn't seem very fitting. If it's water and soft ground, you wouldn't want something heavy that would sink into it.
>>44257678
My Tau are Gundam themed. Not the most original, but I got all my suits painted up in the usual white, red, blue, yellow, and black. My Farsight/Melee Commander has a green beam sword.I did all my pathfinders as brownish green Zaku units.
Ultimately I'm shit at painting, and the white and yellows are a bitch to do well so there are plenty of mistakes visible. Also I fucked up the white primer on my Riptide so its a little textured.
>>44257895
I don't like kroot
>>44257895
>>44257862
Sept Vi'et?
In any event, it's a cool idea. Definitely bring lots of skimmers, since a suit doesn't make quite as much sense in muddy, vegetation-choked terrain.
>>44257927
Yeah, I just checked too. Here's the funny thing: it's still available on the UK site. 190 GBP. That's about $US 20 less than the US price.
>>44257934
Kroot master race. Seriously, until GW started using them as cannon fodder in codex fluff they were one of the more compelling races in the background.
>>44257959
*130 GBP, excuse me.
>>44257678
I've got an Eldar force with an Ocean theme. Lots of Jetbikes and Skimmers for traveling over water, and alterations to a few of the aspect warriors to make them more fitting (Banshees as Sirens, Reapers as Kraken) I even allied some Dark Eldar to get Reavers for Sharks and access to those sweet sailboats.
>>44257845
Nope, it would cost $285 to buy it all separately and the set cost $215. Real fucking shame too cause I was gonna get it after Christmas. I just don't understand, why go through the effort of making the set and then not even sell it for a month. Especially right before their core demo, 12 year old boys, will finally have money to burn.
>>44257928
Maybe but I wound't want to use tanks either.
>>44257993
So go for a small infantry force. Maybe bring some stealth suits and piranhas.
>>44257970
They're still pretty neat fluffwise but I'm not a fan much of the models or the statline.
I though about doing some conversions with skink models a la pic but I don't like infantry that dies space marines coughing.
>>44258040
Stealth suits, crisis suits, fire warriors, vespid, a Y'Vahra for rapid reinforcements and maybe a r'varna that looks like it's having a hard time walking.
And drones, god I love that formation.
>>44257959
Correct me if I'm wrong but GW stuff is normally cheaper in the UK compared to NA so the extra discount doesn't surprise me. It's weird that it's still selling there though, unless they have a different supply or manufacturer for NA.
>>44258109
Something I noticed, mostly unrelated, is that if you google Gameworkshop you often get defaulted to Canada. I think GW just hates us
>>44257425
He was crushing the life out of Emps so hard that Horus saw his Divine Golden Light dim, son. Then Horus shanked him & turned one of his Mega-Armor-mounted Shokk Attack Gunz directly into his face.
>>44257384
Underrated post
>>44258151
Are you American? You should totally buy from Canada at the moment with the Canadian dollar being so devalued. For Skitari, a crawler is 79 CAD on the GW site and 66 USD. Exchange rate is like 1.35+ atm
>>44258223
How would you go about doing that? Shipping would be rather complicated, no?
>>44257371
Well... I mean... that's how Orkz work, right? It's a good thing they're not entirely aware of the fact that if enough of them believe something, it'll happen. Sort of like an unaware self-limitation.
>>44258223
fuck thats a good idea
I was just talking about how the Canadian dollar used to be rather strong wonder what happened
>>44258250
Not sure how GW would handle it but there shouldn't be a tax on plastic models for crossing borders so to offset shipping costs you probably just need a large enough order to maximize the disparity in prices. You can also see if some third party sellers are shipping from Canada to the States.
>>44258274
Oil prices happened anon.
>>44257101
>>44257056
go to the WIP thread
>the Blood Ravens aren't a successor chapter to the Blood Angels
I've been living a lie, well, guess it just means I won't be able to use blood angel parts for the army
>>44257758
I'm still convinced that DA have the better half of the Dark Vengeance box in comparison to the Chaos side.
Dark Angels get:
>2 HQs that I cannot name because I'm not a heretic who pretends to be a loyalist
>Terminators which are nice for DA from last I recall
>A decent sized of marines that's not too poorly kitted out
>3 bikes, and bikes are always good
Meanwhile... on the Chaos side:
>20 cultists, not necessarily the worse unit in the codex as they have some strategic value as a cheap troop
>1 Helbrute, that, assuming you're using just the regular CSM codex, is shite as it isn't going to get anywhere quickly with the inability to deepstrike like its loyalist equivalent, and if it does take a hullpoint there's a chance it'll go crazy and do something besides what you want it to do for a turn
>7 Chosen with a really "egh" loadout
>1 Chaos Lord, which I will admit is the best model in this entire box
In conclusion, the DA player who uses this box will get a good use out of all of the models in the box, while the Chaos player may only be after the cultists and the lord. I know there's probably someone out there who actually -wants- the Chosen and the Helbrute, but it's gotta be a minority with their current state.
>>44258274
harper+oil prices made our economy fucking tank
it sucks having beaverbux be worthless
>>44258557
chaos gets shit because the helbrute models are dogshit.
>>44258557
It's a better value for chaos because they can add spikes to all the Dark Angels stuff and run it as Chaos stuff.
>>44258593
The Dark Vengeance one, yea. The Helbrutes you can buy separately, though, are rather nice looking. They don't got that stupid mono-pose thing going on, and also have actual dreadnaught feet instead of those strange toe things the DV Helbrute has.
>>44258401
>You can also see if some third party sellers are shipping from Canada to the States.
Any Canucks got a favorite store? I'd love to exploit the poor economic situation of your country.
>>44258616
>implying Dark Angels aren't already Chaos
>>44258662
good meme
>>44258557
>been using Codex: SM for my CSM since 4e
>not so shitty dreads
>chosen with some modifications made nice vets
>can ally with IG to make use of the cultists
DV box worked for me just fine.
>>44258662
DARK ANGELS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE MOST LOYAL OF SPACE MARINES. NO DARK ANGEL HAS EVER TURNED TRAITOR EVER, AND THE FALLEN DON'T EXIST. SUBMIT TO THE NEAREST INTERROGATOR CHAPLAIN FOR YOUR FREE HISTORY LESSON.
WE ARE IN FACT SO LOYAL, THAT EVEN THE VILE SONS OF ROWBOAT PROSTRATE THEMSELVES ON SIGHT OF US AND SAY STUFF LIKE, "LOYALIST BATTLE BROTHER, TEACH ME YOUR LOYALIST WAYS!"
>>44258696
You WILL submit to my authority, captain.
>>44258757
OH, INQUISITOR. YES, SURE WE WILL SUBMIT TO YOUR AUTHORITY. JUST FOLLOW ME AND MY BATTLE BROTHERS DOWN THIS DARK ALLEY, AND WE'LL TELL YOU EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW.
What's a good ratio of anti-armor to run for SM?
Something like 3 meltas/lascannons to a Leman Russ?
running the numbers say that a land speeder with two multimeltas firing on side armor gives me two pens, which are crippling even if not killing.
problem is finishing off any crippled tanks. With http://pastebin.com/XNndXi4k I'm leaning towards a vindicator over the usual laser predator due to the points being just a little to much for lascannon sponsons.
Running the extra heavy bolters because I'm expecting lots and lots of carapace armor.
>>44258489
Thanks
>>44258846
Just throw krak grenades at the rear armor.
>>44258647
I've used GCM in the past (like 4th ed past) and they were reliable but slow for Canada. They offer like 25% discounts though so I'm looking at them again as I try to get back into the hobby. No idea if they do international shipping though
>>44258662
>>44257519
That was the original chicken OP pic you uncultured swine
>>44257678
I want to do a bioshock/ Nurgle chaos space marine chapter with splicers as cultists and Big Daddies as space marines.
>>44259055
Have a (You)
![99550102236_ThousandSonsMk4HeadsUpgradeSet02[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zyk6x66.jpg "99550102236_ThousandSonsMk4HeadsUpgradeSet02[1].jpg")
What does /tg/ think of the new 1k sons tv show?
https://youtu.be/7y_2esi4fc8?t=152
>>44259166
I think they're pretty cool models. The glaze they painted them with in the preview images is pretty awesome, and I'd love to learn how to do it.
>>44259055
>Magic picture
>Tradition games
>Shit grammar and puncuation
>>44259166
Ugh, first the Alpha Legion helmets and now for the Sons. Why must FW tempt me with those Mk. IV helmets with the cheek plates (middle row)? And why don't they make a set of just them, I'd buy a bunch.
>>44259035
Notice how the smarter chapters don't even invite the opportunity to be trash-talked unless dumbass DAfags.
>>44259051
>original
>good
The good one doesn't have Errsenherrn floating above everything else.
>>44259166
digging the style of the two on the right on the first row and the three in the middle. Not digging the others.
>>44259166
those are a lot easier to paint then the current heads
>>44259532
>then
>>44259582
it's late, i kan't be bothered to grammer korrektly
>>44259634
something tells me that we have an Ork among our ranks, gentlemen...
>>44257161
He was capture on vid feed with tiny nobs milling about.
Always nothing but negativity in these threads
Whats something that changed for the better in the 7th edition Ork dex?
>>44257678
Mad max/Borderlands Mashup Orks.
Biggest issue... I prefer Blood Axes and they are pretty much the one klan with no parallel in those media.
>>44260590
Were Traktor Kannons in 6e?
>>44257845
Even better you could've gotten it through an flgs for an additional 20% off of $215.
Picked up that and the battle and elimination maniple bundles this way.
>>44260590
They got Mek Gunz.
and...
Formations.
and...
The Lucky Stikk
That's it.
>>44260590
Green Tide and formations?
>>44260639
Sadly Green tide is a gimped Apoc formation.
As are well shit, nearly every formation in there, bullyboyz, vucha skwads, red skull commandos, and blitz brigade (where my frontal 4++ from deffrollas?)
>>44257678
I really want to do a Kroot force, though I can't settle on a theme that feels right. Jungle/forest has been overdone, but i don't feel like any of my other ideas would fit their looks. Deserts, Tundras, Oceans...nothing feels like a place where they should be.
>>44260662
A lot of the formations they added to all the armies, as well as Escalation, are gimped Apocalypse things. Guess Apocalypse didn't sell too well? Because we definitely know formations and Escalation 40k sell well.
Same deal with Cities of Death and Planetstrike not selling well then getting added to 6E as fortifications and selling like hotcakes.
>>44260675
Kroot look totally like desert people, and Tau are a desert race with likely a lot of desert planets in their empire.
>>44260590
There are a lot of good changes in the ork codex, but they don't make up for shittier basic rules.
>>44260696
7E in a nutshell for everyone that's not Eldar/Tau/SM.
>>44260708
/Admech/Knights
>>44260708
Eh, Khorne Daemonkin went pretty well for Khorne armies compared to the normal Chaos space marine codex, although once you're at rock-bottom, it's hard to go down further.
>>44260683
I dunno, they just never look very desert-y to me. I feel like I'd need to convert them with some cloaks or something.
>>44260738
Cloaks on, then think of of them like those flightless desert birds.
>>44260708
Necrons?
>>44260718
Those guys weren't around in 6E though.
>>44260816
Knight had a 6th ed codex as well.
Anyone have experience with legion of the damned?
Im considering getting like 40 of them and running them as a primary detachment
>3++
>Relic that gives a unit FnP
>Deep strike turn 1
>Slow and Purposeful
>Always ignores cover
>Chance to get a warlord trait that gives a squad Armourbane on its bolters
>Formation that gives everyone fleshbane the turn they arrive
>>44260848
They're good for DS 3++ Ignore Cover heavy weapons but 40 of them seems expensive. You'll run in to the same problems that DW or DS GK have, and you can replicate all their benefits much better by simply using bikes/pods/psykers.
>>44260848
>Deep strike turn 1
I think this is only for one of their special missions. They can't DS turn 1 normally. You will automatically lose if your army is pure LotD.
Does anyone have any experience building/running a campaign. Our playgroup of 5 is thinking of putting something together but we have no idea where to start or what to do.
>>44261009
Inspiration
Concept
Refinement
Trial
Execution
>>44261009
I'm working on something similar to the planet map in DoW soulstorm. But it's my first go to. Balancing the benefits from held territory is a bitch.
What kind of thing we're you wanting to do?
>>44257993
I'm pretty sure the tau tanks levitate, so I don't see how soft ground/water would be a problem (assuming they work the same way as a real hovercraft)
>>44257993
Sensor-Spines.
>>44261159
We were planning on something like that, a large territory map with different benefits to each sector, with each player getting one "move" each round, but we are mainly looking for inspiration on how to make it unique
We run. Orks, guard, grey knights, dark eldar, and necrons. So. It's pretty difficult to tie into any fluff conflict
>>44257862
Piranha with sensor spines and drone spam.
>>44259035
>>44261214
Paintjob looked so good and matte in thumbnail, then enlarged it and it was ruined by that mediocre weathering.
>>44257678
Secret Police Tau.
>>44261362
Sa'cea Sept
>>44261228
How do you respond to the acusation of a distinct lack of caliban?
>>44261385
Close. But I want something even more sinister/black ops type.
>>44257678
Jungle themed tau. I wanted to make some of their weapons look old/refurbrished so I painted a couple of the pulse rifles the standard tau ochre scheme with a little bit of wear/dirt on them as well.
Pic related is part of about 2 months of work, but I've never actually played a real game of 40k before. I have pretty much everything you would need but no one to play it with. I live in southern california (about a half hour drive north of downtown san diego). I used to play D&D at this one hobbyshop but I stopped going because the scene there is pretty autistic/toxic. Anyone know any good places in the north-of-san deigo area?
>>44261390
You're not looking hard enough, see we managed to shrink our home world down for ease of travel to the point where it now fits inside the barrel of this bolt pistol here, come take a look.
>>44261213
No need to make it tie into something already established. It's easy to fluff up. Guard fighting a new Ork waaggh!, Dark Eldar jump in to take slaves and be dicks, Necrons wake up and wonder why all this shit is on their lawn, Grey Knights on their way back from purging a daemon infestation sense heresy and accept the Guards calls for aid. There's the basic explanation, but don't limit who can or can't attack each other. After all, orders are orders
Can I use two colors for the Sept Stripes? Sooner or later, there won't be more colors for new Septs.
>>44257539
+1
I want to know as well. I was into DEldar because of their raider nature, so I have literally no reason to not go for the corsair army.
I have only heard of it, and haven't read the rules (I'd rather want an actual pdf or something similar, a bunch of scattered images is a bit annoying to deal with) but how is it compared to, you know, actual, bullshit tier Eldar? Will I actually get games, or will I be banned for taking an OP as fuck army no one wants to play against?
>>44260724
Tell that to 5th edition nids
>>44261213
Orks want to krump everything, Guard got lost, Grey Knights want to kill everything, Dark Eldar want to kill/fuck everything and Necrons want to kill everything
>>44256896
>the beast the beast the beast
That was a terrible book, stop referencing it
I'm thinking of buying this one.
Rules for playing on Slaaneshi (be praise) and Tzeentchian worlds, compatible with Maelstorm missions et similar.
There is a Khorne/Nurgle one too.
I know i'm gonna be disappointed.
But how much am I gonna be disappointed?
>>44260637
Bikes are way cheaper now too. Though they can't be made Troops...maybe it's a wash.
>>44260708
>Everyone before necrons that weren't Space Wolves.
FTFY
>>44261428
Kek
>>44261786
they also lost their permanent 4+ cover
>>44261722
1 page of how to use the rules, including how to use them in a Path to Glory campaign
1 page for each Daemon world, with a random table you roll on each turn to see what environmental effect applies. Generally, a warband that matches the Daemon world's patron deity is less badly affected by the environmental effects.
If that seems worth it for the...whatever it is that you pay, then get it, otherwise don't.
>>44261818
But they can get a 3+ now thanks to Jink and turbo-boosting.
Orks don't really care about snap-firing, especially when twin-linked.
>>44261831
With the special character granting skilled rider they just had that all the time.
Orks DO care about snap fire.
They might not be BS4 naturally, but losing 50% of their hits does hurt, twl is still just a second 16% hit chance.
>>44261865
So a single unit could get a 3+ cover save. Yaaaaaay.
As an Ork player who habitually takes armies that are nothing but bikes, I can safely say I don't really care whether I hit on 5s or 6s, if it means I have the same save as a Space Marine.
>>44261159
Go read crusade of fire, a 6th ed supplement that did just that for inspiration.
>>44260547
And he didn't appear titan sized in it.
>>44261981
"The image made Maskar blench. It was a pict feed, streamed through some exotic form of image capture system, that was being broadcast directly to them. It was a transmission for their benefit, for the benefit of any victims the orks came upon.
There was little sense of scale, but Maskar appeared to be looking into the eyes of the most immense ork warboss. The creature was so mature, so vast and bloated, its features were distorted. Broken tusks like tree trunks jutted from the cliff edge of its lower jaw. It was staring right out of the screen with tiny, gleaming yellow eyes, its jaw moving.
‘That bastard thing is aboard the moon,’ Heth said. ‘It’s their leader.
>I think he’s the size of a damn hab-block, Maskar.
Saints of Terra, there hasn’t been an ork boss that massive since Ullanor. I mean, they just don’t develop to that size any more. Look, look. In the foreground? Those are greenskin warriors. They look like children.’"
>>44261831
Dude the drop from BS2 to BS1 is pretty huge. A lot bigger than what people think.
You are going from a one in three chance of hitting from a one in six. Even with twin linking, that hurts.
>>44262018
>There was little sense of scale
Ehm.....
>>44262067
In universe guess beats out of universe head up arse.
>>44262077
It doesn't.
Because we have the scale of the Ork that fought that Emperor and Horus. It wasn't titan sized. Taking an exaggeration of an out of scale picture is silly.
>>44262115
Didn't say titan sized, it said hab-block sized.
Try to get it right, not much credibility otherwise.
>>44262127
I was referring to the fact it did not say he was titan sized and that it was an out of scale picture and an exaggeration. The whole argument in this thread was whether the Beast was titan sized. Now get your head out of your arse.
>>The Emperor fought an armoured giant twice his height and breadth. Its skull was a vast, iron-helmed boulder with elephantine tusks and chisel-like teeth that gleamed dully. Its eyes were coal-red slits of such vicious intelligence that it stole Horus’s breath.
>Horus had never seen its equal. No bestiary would include its description for fear of being ridiculed, no magos of the Mechanicum would accept such a specimen could exist.
>Six clanking, mechanised limbs bolted through its flesh bore grinding, crackling, sawing, snapping, flame-belching weapons of murder.
>The Emperor’s armour was burning, the golden wreath now ashes around his neck.
>>Chugging rotor cannons battered the Emperor’s armour even as claws of lightning tore portions of it away. It was taking every screed of the Emperor’s warrior skill and psychic might to keep the mech-warlord’s weaponry from killing him.
>‘Father!’ shouted Horus.
>>The greenskin turned and saw Horus. It saw the desperation in his face and laughed. A fist like a Reductor siege hammer smashed the Emperor’s sword aside and a fist of green flesh lifted him into the air. It crushed the life from him with its inhuman power.
>‘No!’ yelled Horus...
No here is some proper scene showing the size of the Ork Warboss that was chocking the Emperor. He ain't titan sized.
>>44262162
Then there is the Warboss at ullanor. The grat warboss that multiple legions failed to take down before Horus arriived. The great war that made him Warmaster.
>At the pinnacle of the tower, they found Urg in a grand chamber accompanied by forty of the biggest orks in his empire. Horus charged straight toward the warlord, slicing through muscled green bodies with his lightning claws. The Terminators with him similarly crashed into combat. Slowly, they hacked a path through the mob until Horus faced Urg himself. The enormous Overlord was simply no match for the Primarch's skill and unnatural power. Horus crippled his enemy, hefted Urg's broken body out onto the roof, and threw him screaming from the battlements to fall far below, amongst the horde of orks still assaulting the lower levels.
Are you guys saying that Horus lifted a titan sized Ork and threw him down a tower? How silly.
>>44257384
Plainfield? Are you talking about indiana?
>>44262183
Which book is that from?
>>44262224
Index Astartes:
and this one >>44262162 is from the short story "The Wolf of Ash and Fire".
>>44262245
Thanks
>>44261722
I got both Daemon Worlds. Something fucked up with the formatting for Slaughtersphere and Phobian V, but here they are anon.
>>44261722
>>44262288
>>44261722
>>44262296
>>44261722
>>44262300
>>44262067
THIS warboss is large, that Titan is FAR AWAY.
>>44262288
>>44262296
>>44262300
>>44262307
Oh, Thank you!
I want to fucking cry. I want to get into W40k modelling SERIOUSLY, but I'm broke as hell. I like them all, aestethically. The "Buy what you like!" rule does not apply with me, I'd literally buy them all. My internet si too bad to download codices, so I want to ask here hoping someone will answer.
After hours of thinking I came up with a list of my favourite armies, because of they look or how they're played in the videogames (my only 2 parameters to choose from, unfortunately).
>Tau
>Imperial Guard
>Adeptus Mechanicus
Which of them is the most versatile army on the table for someone who has never played? Also since I'm poor I can buy them slowly. Like, a couple models per months at best. Like, I know the AdMech doesn't have a lot of units. So if I spend my money there, will I be unsatisfied with the choices I will have?
And I already have some very basic SM stuff: tac squad, a rhino and a dreadnought.
Thank you
>>44258547
Aren't they implied to be a successor chapter to the Thousand Sons?
>>44262512
Imperial guard are probably a bad idea for someone low on cash as they can be pretty numerous to say the least.
I'm going to go for the admech. Firstly they're lovely models that deserve to have time taken over them. Secondly, and more relevantly for you, they have a range of stuff, with shooty and melee-y units, so they probably hit that versatility thing. They're a bit weird, the lack of transports makes them play kind of differently, but if you're learning the game from scratch that's fine as there's nothing you need to unlearn. Finally there is some...stigma, shall we say, with tau nowadays, whereas playing admech immediately earns you grogenard points. And the unit variety isn't that bad with the range of weapons you can put on stuff.
>>44262606
Thank you for the suggestion. So you say that I will not be crippled by the fact that there are not many models for the admech?
>>44262595
>>44258547
It's very clear they are Thousand Sons successors
>>44262512
Tau are the worst army to pick up. Formations and fan wanking has made them so dull in terms of units and fluff.
>>44262648
There are technically two admech factions, and they are designed to work together.
So no you should be fine.
The only downside is you will have to buy two codexes if you want to use all the models.
>>44257988
>tfw I picked it up from my FLGS for $185 and got the Elimination Maniple for $120.
My Skitmech might be the cheapest army I've ever purchased. Merry Christmas to me.
>>44262677
Fuck nice. How did you get that deal?
>>44262512
I know that feel, m8.
Because of that feel I don't have any advice for you, though. kek.
AdMech has those big robot guys who are pretty cool, but apparently they suck
>>44262662
Yeah I guessed as much. I went to my """local""" GW shop (it's the nearest, yet extremely far) a month ago and I exposed that thing to them,they sort of agreed while saying that I should just play what I like
>>44262665
Yeah I saw that as well. To begin you'd think is better to pick skitariis at first maybe?
>>44262690
To specify I only meant the big robot guys specifically. Can't remember the name for the life of me, no time to google since final exam in 5 minutes
>>44262690
>>44262693
Kastellans. And they are actually really good, just extremely expensive.
Are there any units in the tyranid codex that spawn more tyranids? I love the vibes of nids but I'm more into the endless swarm schtick like the fluff.
>>44262693
castellans.
>>44262691
I would say yes. Cult Mech have less units overall.
>>44262705
Yes.
There is one big Nid that is always pregnant and continuously spawns gaunts.
There was a nid SC character that implanted its victims with Tyranid eggs which caused them to explode into a shower of gore and those small bity tyranids.
>>44262711
Thanks bro you really saved me! /tg/ is the best board. Have a nice christmas and happy new year!
>>44262705
yes.
one spawns spore mines, another the basic small tyranids, i think there's one that spawns the smallest ripper types too.
>>44262705
Tervigons do this IIRC.
>>44262718
You too mate. Have fun painting.
>>44262705
Tervigons, although they're pretty nerfed from what I've heard
>>44262717
That's fucking gross, I love it.
>>44262720
>>44262723
>>44262725
Thank you everyone~ Do you know the names of these other 2 spawners? I'm guessing it wouldn't be competitive at all but I'm not entirely bummed out about it.
>>44262762
Spore spawner is the biovore, ripper spawner i've no idea about,
>>44262856
Ok, thank you very much. I also read up on Synapse and Instinctive behaviour. I wish it was a bit more reasonable. How cool would it be to field an army of Tyranids that you can choose to forgoe most input? Like the Hivemind actually takes over your models and it works as a rudimentary "AI" of sorts like a proper ravenous brood.
>>44262879
You're not playing a videogame dumbass. You would have to manually do bookkeeping to keep track of the automated behaviours.
>>44262889
I know and don't get me wrong it's not for a main army but I think it would be pretty nifty as a one-off friendly gimmick game.
>>44262911
Running an entirely non synapse tyranid army is pretty much like that.
My friend and his brother did that once, one guy being marines and the other synapse free gaunts and the like.
We laughed our heads off because the tyranids did more damage to themselves than the marines did. It's weird how that not having a dude in charge makes them commit suicide and the like. The hive mind, in all its scary extragalactic might, looked at this and went "yeah, I'm proud of what I did here today."
>>44262762
>>44262856
Tervigons spawn gants
Sporocytes spawn Spore Mines
Biovores and Harpys fire spore mines and if they miss they place mines where they missed
the guy that made units turn into rippers is no longer in the codex
>>44256705
What's the difference between a regular digital codex and an enhanced edition?
>>44262879
If you use the Hive Fleet Detachment you can re-roll the effect of Instinctive Behavior so just get a squad of RIPPERS with deep strike and let them hold an objective for pennies
I have one tau commander in my army is it worth turning him into a coldstar or keeping him as a normal commander till I get better in the game?
>>44263066
Definitely keep him as a normal commander. The coldstar is... crap honestly. Commanders are invaluable.
>>44263013
One'd an ebook for all devices, the other is ios only and has a proper user interfacr, links etc like an app.
>>44263066
I am using a Coldstar as a secondary HQ, with my other HQ being a proper Commander who joins a unit and is useful.
and I don't know why. He is useless and shit. I REALLY want to make him work, but I can't. He has been a pointless addition in all games, and I might as well have just told my opponent that I'll be playing with fewer points than him.
Running him with Shield Generator and Early Warning Override. He has at most caused 2 HP of damage on a flyer, and that's it. He has never been useful, and has lost me a game that would otherwise have been a draw, and caused a win to become a draw.
It is literally a 175 point handicap, on top of being a free kill point.
And don't bother putting Stimulant Injector on him. FnP is useless on a lone model with T4. He'll never get a chance to use it. Threat it as a one wound model with a 3+/4++.
But hey, you might want to take him anyway, just so your friends wont start accusing you of being a powergaming faggot when you bring triple Riptide teams, and wipe out a quarter of his army each turn when resolving your 9 S9 AP2 Pieplates.
>>44262687
>>44262687
My flgs lowers the price of off of 40k bundle boxes by about 10%, and it offers an additional 10% for preferred customers. I fuckin love my store.
How does one deal with a lord of skulls at 1000 points?
>>44263325
By nyt playing. Who is faggot enough to bring 888pts LoW into 1000pts game?
>>44263325
melta and grav like all marines adore. it's not a 1k list.
>herald of tzeentch 45
>nurgling 45
>nurgling 45
>lord of skulls 888
>1023
>>44263348
>Be me
>Come to a store, see an IG player who is looking for a game. Wearing a commisar hat and a trenchcoat with some IG markings on them, probably bought somewhere, looks pretty cool.
>He says he has to leave fairly early, so he only brought 1000 points.
>Fine by me
>We start deployment
>He turns around, and opens up a large bag behind him, and placed down a warhound titan, a Lord Commisar and 2 veteran squads.
I entertained him, but I probably shouldn't have. We rolled kill points, and I lost horribly because I had almost twice as many units as him, and I had no way of killing his titan. The only two units that could even dent it, was killed off turn 2.
Some people don't deserve games. Ever.
>>44263420
>Wearing a commisar hat and a trenchcoat with some IG markings on them
That should have been a hint. Cosplayers - not even once.
>>44257678
Giger-looking Tyranids. I don't think an explanation is necessary, nor do I understand why GW hasn't made it the default paint job (rather than shitty Leviathan or shitty Kraken or whatever).
>>44262994
Thank you. Shame about the ripper one, I'd have loved to do that. Spore mine spam with biovore and sporocysts seems fun. Tons of large blasts Can start with clusters of mines on the field as well, so I'd be playing Codex: Carpet Bombs
>>44262952
That sounds ridiculous but >>44263018 and using specific models to avoid the shittiest Instinctive behaviour rolls might be gud. Can also keep a spinning compass device handy and then roll for distance and even your movement phase is random.
>>44263454
Black on black is a bit dull. Even stuff like raven guard have other colours in their paint schemes.
>>44263454
probably because it's not as pretty as other nid paint schemes which are colorful. like this. it's painted damn good and that metal is amazing but the black bits are boring
>>44263474
You can always tweak it with blue, purple, green and grey tones.
>>44263482
>>44263491
>>44263474
I think the Xenomorph/Giger stuff is all about sleek. It's black but it's shiny. Highlights and a varnish finish would make it look awesome.
Plus if you're a god-tier painter, the like that can freehand crying eldar faces or the weave texture of linen on a fucking banner, then you could paint reflections on the smoother sections. Imagine a Swarmlord in a sword-swinging pose with the screaming face of some poor bastard civilian reflected on it's blade.
>>44263532
Yeah, but anon (or you) was talking about it being the default paint job. Plain black is difficult enough because you have to edge highlight, you can't wash/drybrush your way to decent models, and it's especially difficult to get black looking good both up close and a half-metre away on the table (a lot of dark eldar armies, for example, can look amazing up close but just like dark blobs when actually played). Freehand stuff is even harder. It makes sense for GW to make the default paint schemes stuff that beginners can get close to.
Optimal size for warbikers squads?
Are Nob bikers still the shit?
What are they used for? They have the same stats as boyz for melee so they suck at that for their cost, so what should they shoot at?
>>44263532
>Highlights and a varnish finish would make it look awesome.
The problem ther eis that you're mxing painted highlights with the reflections, whcih end up wherever the light puts them. It isn't for nothign that matte is the standard for these things.
>>44263348
>>44263377
There was another with an 1000 point imperial knight list.
I was wondering what the best way to take on super heavies were as imperial guard/assassins.
>>44263608
>>44263580
Fair enough, I guess you both are right. It would be nice if it could be made to work but I agree, it does require some insane skill and even then the tabletop distance can muck it up. shame.
>>44263491
That's perfect.
>>44263532
>glossy black on miniatures
have you ever primed a miniature too much? it looks terrible and now you gotta work harder to paint the miniature. i do like the idea of that freehand stuff and if i was doing or at golden demon level i would steal this idea
>>44263629
There's no reason you can't do an army of them dude. Was just saying why imo GW didn't make it a default scheme.
>>44263606
Look into Zhardsnark. (end of the pdf)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Ork_Dread_Mob_Army_List_Update.pdf
>>44263636
>tfw I just glossy black undercoated all my mins
[PANIC]
>>44263654
No you're right but the black blob problem at tabletop distance would put a dampener on them. I'm of the opinion that top paintjobs shouldn't be fielded because they're more of an artpiece than a wargaming token. Not to say the game should be nothing but mediocre-painted garbage but that certain top 1% have no place being fielded.
>>44263684
yeah, i've done that a few times because i'm trying to get it everywhere and it looks like a few spots need another hit. you should strip them. i don't and i just put on a thinned layer of black paint, gives the paint something to stick on but it makes any light colors look dingy
>>44263705
>I crushed someone's dreams today
>mfw
>>44263751
Don't be silly Anon, if I really wanted to, i'd do it anyway. i often get ahead of myself and not see the bigger picture, so it's good there are others who'd point things out.
Some people think people like those are buzzkills but i consider them honest and invaluable. If I wanted a hugbox, I'd lock myself in my room and talk to myself.
Have a cute pupper.
>>44263705
Great paintjobs shouldn't be fielded because then you have to watch your beautiful models getting slapped off the table by some prick's grey plastic unit.
From 1 to "do it faget" how much should I get a betrayal at Calth box with a 50% discount? ? I've been tempted to start Speez Murinz but I don't fancy the gladius strike force organization TOO MUCH and would either ally them with IG for some sweet artillery and tanks (As anty/infantry while SM focus on grav/Plasma) or use them in 30k
>>44264027
Go for it
>>44264027
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>your package has become lost in the mail
my double keeper list gets further away
>>44264084
>It's been a week and guy still hasn't shipped my package
I guess I'm gonna have to wait to wrrrry
I get to play as Eldar now. My least favorite DoW character, and the fact I probably never going to finish my edgy adventure until I figure out what's wrong with my computer. Yay.
>>44264084
I think I found it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67suyQIZ2Pw
>>44264136
in my case i got a message and a tracking number, it just hasn't been updated for the past week or so. today's the last shipping day otherwise i'll start taking action
i would send him a message and say get off your ass and work
It shouldn't be that hard to get rid of Orks if their codex is anything to go by.
>>44264157
Tell him now. This happened to me when I wanted to buy a watch and the stupid thing took two extra months to show up.
>>44264191
What is with DOW 2 and edgy snipers?
>>44264203
they're upset about purple ork snipers
>>44257022
should have given that kid a Watcher in the Dark costume.
>>44264224
Exactly my thoughts.
>>44257101
spray in light, random bursts, dry 20 minutes, turn and repeat until covered
>>44256705
FUCKING GW MANE, THEIR INSTRUCTIONS ARE FUCKING SHIT
I FOLLOWED THE TAU COMMANDER INSTRUCTIONS TO THE LETTER AND NOW HIS LEGS WON'T GO ON PROPERLY
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I'm going to have to look up how to pin models legs now.
>>44264271
you must really suck at this
>>44264271
a lot of times pieces won't fit on, get some greenstuff and fill in the gaps
>>44264203
Cyrus lost some initiates and they are his brothers, and Ronahn is an Eldar and lost his sister.
>>44261722
Guys I just sold my Slaaneshi army since you guys said they were getting removed from 40K.
Now there is a Maelstrom about Slaaneshi worlds fuck you guys!
>>44264084
Merry Christmas you filthy animal!
>>44264271
No you didn't. I've built two of those fuckers in the last month, and they went together very easily.
You fucked up. Nobody else. Don't blame GW for you failing at clearly labelled and numbered clip-file-stick.
>>44264271
>I FOLLOWED THE TAU COMMANDER INSTRUCTIONS TO THE LETTER
You probably didn't.
And now I remember one of the reasons why I dislike Kayleth again. She has to kill one of best characters in DoW.
Remaking warhammer without a rulebook suited for seal clubbing is like remaking Pixels without a smug prick who hasn't made a workable joke since happy gilmore.
>>44264078
What?
>>44264356
You have only yourself to blame for having followed what some nobody said on an anonymous board
>>44264356
you fucked up, you seriously fucked up listening to /tg/
it's part of the on going narrative for age of sigmar, it's unlikely to effect 40k. and now the thread will die due to talking about AoS
>>44264376
your waifu is dead
Eldar weapons are better than I thought.
>>44264382
>>44264391
FINE I'LL PIN HIS LEGS AND MAKE HIM GLORIOUS
