Fetish content aside, this is a pretty nice little game.
A little disappointed that the "second edition" turned out to be more of a splatbook to the first edition book, but since I can't find a free copy, I can't say what it's like.
>>44065923
>Fetish content aside,
what fetish content?
>>44065923
The second edition came out! That was supposed to be out in 2013. I had given up any hope.
>>44066092
Never mind that the game perfectly gets across the conceit that young girls (with power) are unrepentant assholes, but there's a fair amount of transformation and mind control stuff and whatnot. That's probably what he's talking about.
>>44066092
Underage girls get magic powers and use it to punish people for minus slights by turning them into frogs and things without any repercussions.
It's hard to say how much is projecting or not but somebody's some where is getting off it.
The game has charm but it is pretty flawed. Magic system is pretty decent however. All combat spells have the damage set by the casters rank in that school of magic so spells tend to be more flavourful then just bigger types of fireballs.
>>44066092
One of the artist does a whole bunch of transformation fetish porn
They did a lot of art for the book involving cruel transformations
>>44066408
the adults with power are just as big of assholes since there are no repercussions for the girls ever
>>44065923
Now I'm morbidly curious. pdf?
>>44066092
I can be a lighthearted game of girls with magic
Or it could go full magical realm with young preteen-teen girls gleefully transforming non witches into animals, food, clothes, or other small objects while mind wiping and mind rapping any muggle they wish with normal people completely powerless against them
Not to mention there was very little thought put into the implications of the world building and would be a very short to almost nonexistent leap from the current all female adult witch society's view of "muggles don't matter, do what you want to them" to "muggles are our play things"
And as >>44066760 pointed out, some of the folks who worked on it are rather open about their femdom transformation fetish
>>44065923
Come on, Anon, you know you've gotta post a download link.
>>44067495
Just google it, I think you can find it online pretty easily
>>44066819
>>44067495
I'm just an innocent bystander, but here's a pdf -- https://mega.nz/#!OkwAjQII!XlhnF4KzGbIDEA-L9jngJIpfiMjK_t6P35wXJy5YMbc
>>44069648
Thanks
>>44070903
So this isn't really the much hoped for second edition then? It's more just a Directors cut?
>>44065923
...damn, that looked like the cover of a porn
>>44073225
....To you...
>>44067025
So, in other words, this book ironically makes witch burnings look justified?
>>44073225
Well, if TF porn is your thing and you don't mind the ending involving becoming a slice of delicious cake for the girl to eat as a pair of skinny jeans clinging tightly to her hips, yes it can easily be porn
>>44073493
It would be if they couldn't trivially stop fire
>>44073493
if REAL witches with REAL magic powers exist, how the hell would normal fire kill them unless they're unholy so you toss holy water or something on them
heck, I bet most witch hunts are STARTED by witches just to watch stupid muggles kill each other
>>44073691
Witch girls loli femdom inanimate TF smut when?
...I'm serious, this is my fetish
>>44073691
>a pair of skinny jeans clinging tightly to her hips
I never thought of it this way.
I think I just failed my fetish roll.
>>44065923
Is that Luna Lovegood?
>>44074907
>You will never accidentally spill your drink on a young fourteen year old hottie
>She will never get pissed that you ruined her new jeans
>You will never be interrupted mid apology by her pulling out a wand and with a flick of her wrist turning you into a replacement
>You will never be carried off to the nearest restroom so she can have some privacy to change
>You will never watch silently from the floor as she peals off her skintight jeans giving you a perfect view of her cute little ass from below
>She will never step into you and slowly pull you up, your tight fabric clinging to her smooth legs, your new form stretched tightly enough she has to shimmying her hips in for the last few inches
>She will never have already forgotten your face by the time she's left the restroom, her hips swaying as she heads off to meet up with her friends
>>44075809
That's horrific. But hey, if you're so desperate for physical contact with a female that you'd subject yourself to a lifetime as an inanimate object, be my guest
>>44067025
>mind rapping
Isn't this what Beastie Boys did?
>>44065923
>Be nice or be a toad
It like they knew what sort of fetishes it'd attract
>>44075809
Muh dik
Might as well post the comic
>>44078794
Apparently there are more full-length comics that were actually published, but I've never been able to find scans.
>>44078810
>>44078916
>>44078794
>>44078810
>>44078916
This is kinda painful to look at.
>>44078929
>>44078950
That's it?
where is the porn?
>>44079101
Not in the book, but the artist made plenty of it, I think it's still on deviantart
>>44079166
link?
>>44079223
I'll have to dig for it, but the chick with the red bow is the guy's OC In his other stuff she's a cruel magical princess from another dimension that delights in using TF magic to cause bad ends.
I think her sample character in the book/witchgirls website (I forget which) notes the version from the witchgirls comic is a magical princess from another universe who likes toying with people
>>44078950
This is downright sociopathic, made to seem cutesy. I find this more disturbing than the grimderp of 40k.
>>44078950
Oh yeah, totally cute.
They should meet a real wizard
>>44079335
its something pls more
>>44079351
/tg/'s first response when we found out about it was to make a setting about hunting these monsters down
The other comics >>44078810 mentioned? They were posted in that thread, among them included such gems as turning several people into snacks to munch on and one of the witches turning her brother (who was openly terrified of her) into a mouse and erasing their parent's memories that he existed
>>44079452
Hisoka, pls.
>>44079539
Wonder if they can cast spells without arms
>>44079520
Jesus. That's horrifying. And I'm honestly making an effort to be open minded about this. I genuinely enjoyed characters like Heath Ledger's Joker, Walter White, Tony Soprano, Vito and Michael Corleone. So I'm sitting here trying to convince myself that the sociopathic witches in these comics are just fun loving bad guys. But I can't get over the fact that all the other villains I mentioned either had some kind of redeeming feature(s) to them, at least occasionally felt remorse or guilt over their actions, or at the very least acknowledged that they were bad people and not trying to act as if anything they did deserved any sympathy or acceptance because they were so cool/cute.
tfw no witch girls erp partner
>>44079335
A magic princess from another dimension you say?
>>44079813
the antagonists are technology enhanced witch Hunters who wouldn't be out of place in 40k. It's hard to hate them.
>>44079813
you must have never been to a High School with the cliche bitch club
now give said bitch club super powers
>>44079964
Hate the "antagonists" or the witches?
>>44079539
Da Hooch is pavlov's dog for my dick.
>>44079813
The canonical stance of witch scocioty is that muggles don't matter, to the point the only ways it could go are whimsical "don't think about it too hard" lighthearted fantasy, grimdark nightmare, or TF fetish wonderland
>>44079964
Now I want to play a game as a member of an XCOM style agency that hunts these horrifying witches.
>>44079813
That's what makes them such good villains. They're inspired by upper-class school cliques from the real world, which makes them somewhat realistic and believable. Even though it's impossible to pity them, their charm and status as schoolgirls makes them hard to fight, because you'd end up looking like the bad guy for attacking a group of teenage girls. This campaign writes itself.
>>44080118
>because you'd end up looking like the bad guy for attacking a group of teenage girls
That's assuming you don't just end up as something like a mouse, a lollipop, or her new push-up bra
>>44080170
Or a spoon.
>>44080118
>That's what makes them such good villains.
I can see where you're coming from, and yes, they'd definitely make great NPC villains for the reasons you stated. But the RPG has you playing as them, and they are the protagonists of their own comic. That's more disturbing than a homicidal clown juggling severed heads.
>>44080170
You see, that's part of the danger. You not only have to fight them, you have to fight them in a way that A) doesn't result in you being polymorphed into some inanimate object, and B) doesn't make you look like a complete sociopath. Each on its own his hard, together it's almost impossible.
I honestly think if you're going to play this system, it has to be a sort of turf war campaign so that when you get turned into a toad, at least one of your sister witches can turn you back.
It may not be any better for you guys, but for me personally the whole TF thing isn't as bad when you know it can get reversed.
>>44080372
>but for me personally the whole TF thing isn't as bad when you know it can get reversed.
Provided you're not killed right there on the spot while you are TF'd into a small, easily stepped-on animal/insect or a piece of tasty food that can be swallowed in a moment.
>>44066760
While the cover was interesting enough to draw me in, I wasn't that interested in the game itself.
But this, I ask for links.
Because sciencemancy
>>44080353
I agree that they'd make terrible player characters compared with their potential as NPC villains. As for the comic, femdom fetishists are attracted to fantasies of remorseless women, which explains why they're so evil.
>>44079539
The fuck happened after the Vidya island?
...never mind, I'll just scrub the series from my brain
>>44080372
>>44080413
Honestly playing as feuding cliques of early teen magical bitches could be a fun, if very lethal game where you have to rely on saftey in numbers less you get caught alone and end up crushed, a snack, or turned into a trophy
>>44080413
>>44081046
What can I say, gang wars are violent. Sometimes you just get gunned down when you weren't expecting to. Roll a new character and try not to die this time, be thankful your crew is big enough to have scouting parties like this.
>>44081046
Resurrecting people and reversing transformations are quite easy spells to perform, thus dying isn't a big deal for PCs.
>>44079964
That show is so fucking bad. It's super unfunny and is clearly trying terribly hard.
>>44079813
What bothers me isn't the remorseless character (does Ledger's Joker show any remorse?). What bothers me is that the story's apparently fucking framed around the sociopath who enacts all of the creepy "punishments" to whoever so much as speaks to her, so that all of the bullshit she does looks vaguely prompted as the protagonist. And the result is a story that goes nowhere, about some sadist with magical powers doing whatever she likes and getting away with it. It's not a narrative, it's just some creepy fetish shit to show a teenage girl treating humanity like garbage.
>>44080927
Okay, looks like the guy's deviant art page is deactivated but you can still see his geocities site on the way back machine
http://web.archive.org/web/20010411183322/http://www.geocities.com/gotiger_1999/Sorc1.html
Most of the images are dead though
You CAN search for his OC, princess lucinda on deviant art, he commissioned quite a bit of work and some is still up
Man, I haven't looked at this in a while, I forgot how full of example of them using their magic to do horrible things are portrayed as just girls having fun
>>44081189
Looking over it, resurrection is a high level ability and only works if they haven't been dead for more than a day and are mostly intact, so killing someone is probably permanent, transforming someone then destroying them is by RAW reversible with the right mix of spells though
>>44081271
This
>>44078932
Yeah, the RPG book goes out of its way to take the piss out of Harry Potter.
>>44079351
Again, see >>44066408.
>>44081271
The major thing I took away from the comic is that the girl with the red ribbon just shouldn't be invited anywhere.
It might be interesting to couple this system with the social links from Magical Burst, and have magic use strain or stress the social links - adding an element of ostracization to the game, because frankly, your friends won't want to invite you anywhere if you're just going to fuck everything up.
Did the witch in the green dress even get her book signed?
>>44082373
The girl in the red ribbon has her own 1-3 part comic series, and yes she's doing horrible things to people all throughout
>>44082373
>Did the witch in the green dress even get her book signed?
Nope. Author got banished to death the moment she greeted them.
>>44078794
>>44078810
>>44078916
>>44078929
>>44078950
>you will never be a sadistic 14 year old girl with all the powers of the cosmos at your fingertips
Why live?
Also, why is the nice girl even hanging out with Lucinda if she clearly disapproves of her methods?
>>44083920
Because given the witches in this setting? Odds are even nice girl enjoys the occasional snack of candy TFed people or has a drawer full of panties that used to be people who pissed her off
>>44083920
>Also, why is the nice girl even hanging out with Lucinda if she clearly disapproves of her methods?
Because it would, like, make her soooooooo unpopular! If word got out she, like, totally dissed Lucinda over some MUNDANES she'd be, like, totally the most shunned girl in school!
>>44084062
That's why it's potato, though.
How hard would it have been to go to the book signing alone? If Lucinda asked why she wasn't invited, "oh, it was just some mortal stuff, you totally wouldn't have been into it!" would make the perfect excuse.
I'm putting far too much thought into the social dynamics of a game about sadistic TF fetish witches, but still. I'm bugged.
>>44081235
Meh, it has it's moments.
>>44065923
>ctrl+f
> no resist, anti-magic
in this game, is there a counter/resistance roll to magic? or is it trite makebelieve?
>>44084568
seconded.
there are PDFs i will not download, but the curiosity kills this cat
>>44084568
>>44084965
For the most part? Nope, not unless you're a witch yourself
And then every non-witch is your plaything, even the anti-witch hunter organization is laughably weak if you go by RAW
>>44085009
that is wankery bullshit.
>pic related
![tumblr_mjxfxf9kNo1rwwqtto1_400[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/oOlGK2B.gif "tumblr_mjxfxf9kNo1rwwqtto1_400[1].gif")
>>44085009
The best and only way to kill a witch is with another witch.
>>44073917
>heck, I bet most witch hunts are STARTED by witches just to watch stupid muggles kill each other
That's the premise of the Salem TV series, actually.
>>44085177
Salem bretty gud. Season 2 when?
>>44085210
Season 2 is already out, anon. It's on Amazon and Vudu.
>>44065923
>you will never annihilate these monsters in the name of (insert good deity here)
>you will never offer their heads as sacrifices to (insert evil deity here)
>you will never destroy them as part of your soulless crusade against all life
>you will never rend their flesh and devour it so that the endless swarm may expand
>you will never destroy these inferior creatures to retake your lost empire's lands
>you will never clobber them just because that's what you do
>you will never, upon hearing of their atrocities, wipe them out for the greater good of all
Why even live?
So how would you guys roll for spell casting in a harry potter like game?
Rather what would you think would be the mostfun?
I was thinking maybe
1D4 for ??? IDK focus or something
1D6 for verbal commands
1D10 for wand movements
the total of those two equal the strength of the spell plus any extra bonuses
and 1D20 to hit
>>44087021
Too many dice for one attack roll, or are they not always rolling all of them?
>>44087254
4 dice is too many dice?
I've seen many a wizard pull out their sackof diceto unleash a mighty blow to the enemy with just one spell.
I probably can get rid of the focus die.
>>44078794
>>44078810
>>44078916
>>44078929
>>44078950
This look like an idiot's power fantasy met a pedophile's sex fantasy.
What's supposed to be good about this?
>>44080372
>B) doesn't make you look like a complete sociopath
Alternatively, going full EDGE might be fun
>set up elaborate mechanical traps that prey on the personality flaws of witches and kill them painfully
>serial killer-style calling card
>spread paranoia and fear among the surviving witches
>start targeting their friends and family
>elude cops and witches and get them to fight/kill each other>get caught, plead insanity at your trial
>surviving witch confronts you in your cell to administer personal punishment
>"killing me won't bring your friends back"
>>44079520
Oh man, I remember those threads very vaguely.
>>44079964
>the antagonists are technology enhanced witch Hunters who wouldn't be out of place in 40k. It's hard to hate them.
That reminds me of that one movie where people had the ability to teleport and there was an ancient order that hunted them down and murdered them mercilessly as children because they were simply too powerful to be left alive.
>>44087254
This has suddenly given me the idea for a game that has massive complicated rolls for single attack/actions, but fights only last one or two rounds on average.
>>44088027
She won't kill you, she'll justturn you into a dildoinstead.
>>44066114
Wait, it did? When?
>>44087021
I would just stick with the game rules as written.
>>44087472
Too many varieties I should say, there's a reason most system will stick to one type of dice rolling for an attack
>>44089665
What if I making my own Table top Role playing game based on witches and wizards anon?
>>44085009
>>44085164
I belive the last time we had a thread about this game it was decided the most competent party would be a group of immortals that were witch hunters, preferrably with one or more warlocks which are basically the only thing that could hope to beat a witch, other than a witch, by virtue of the ability to steal magic and absorb spells from witches
>>44088398
>Fight the good fight, kill a few of those monsters
>Be seen as a lunatic and swarmed by the police
>While waiting for your trial one of the little teenybopper bitches shows up
>She mocks you for thinking a mortal like you could ever do any serious harm to a witch, laughing as she tells you how everyone you "killed" was resurrected
>With the flick of her wand she turns you into a dildo before unbuttoning her skinny jeans and exposing herself just enough to slip you in
>With the delightful feeling of you filling her up, she goes around the police station, erasing minds and evidence until not a hint of your crimes remain
> she keep you and her until she arrives back at her house, then she spends hours playing with and tormenting you while mocking how you accomplished nothing except for getting your existence erased and adding another toy for her collection
>>44091419
>What if I making my own Table top Role playing game based on witches and wizards anon?
Then you need to clarify much, much more of your ruleset than "which dice should I roll for casting".
>hey guys I'm building a car
>what do you think the emblem should look like
>>44092314
Right now it is nothing more than a passing thought. Can't find any decent "Harry Potter" style Rpg's that are to my liking so why not make my own. I like to start of with combat to make sure it flows smoothly from the beginning.
>>44093200
There are a brazillion games that do combat well, it's often a really bad idea to build a whole system because your ego likes that thought more than just tweaking someone elses to suit your preferences.
Mostly it's a bad idea because you never finish it so it's time wasted unless your enjoyment of rpgs stem more from some kind of numbercrunching or games design fetish.
>>44093200
But without a system in place, none of those die rolls mean anything.
>I rolled a total of 9 for casting
>I rolled a 12 to hit
What now?
>>44088114
In practice the only relevant part of combat mechanics is how many meaningful choices you are able to make during a fight. Those are the only actual important things, the rest is basically padding that can be swapped out for rolling a bunch of dice at once instead of a succession of them.
A lot of rpgs have a lot of "fake" complexity that is really just about making things seem like they're happening in real time or have a lot of details.
Check out something like the ORE.
>While most dice pool systems count the number of dice which roll above a certain number to determine success, the O.R.E. system instead depends on matching dice, such as a pair of dice showing 8 or three dice showing 2. Matching dice are called a "set"; the number of matching dice in a set is called the "Width", while the face up number on the dice is the set's "Height".
So you have a dice mechanic where you just roll once but you get more than just a number, and can have Height and Width determine different effects, like one number is how well you manage the thing you attempt, the other is how fast.
>>44079966
I did.
I'd join the Witchhunters in a heartbeat.
>>44081271
This is why they had to completely revicse the Beast WoD game.
>>44093239
You Figure it out step by step, That's the fun part at least for me. What's fun is always my first priority.
>>44093387
I'm curious to know if you've ever completed a homebrew.
>>44089220
Officially yes but it's re print/revision rather than a an Second edition proper.
>>44088062
Jumper
The thing is they would still somewhat Villainness (if still somewhat justified) if they were depicted cannonly as hunting down and exterminating witches as children. But the game shies away from having them committing explicit Violence. Which make tthem fairly ineffectual bad guys. Especially as you can't expect that sort of restraint from the players.
>>44095225
Yep I've got a folder filled with all sorts of competed stuff and another folder with WIPS I normally only have about 4 to 5 things in that folder at any givin time.
>>44096240
>The thing is they would still somewhat Villainness (if still somewhat justified) if they were depicted cannonly as hunting down and exterminating witches as children. But the game shies away from having them committing explicit Violence. Which make tthem fairly ineffectual bad guys. Especially as you can't expect that sort of restraint from the players.
>Villains can only do Saturday morning cartoon level villainy
>"Heros" go full on body horror and mind rape
>>44080111
I'd like to have a 'hall of fallen' considering of just row and row of day to day stuff with name tags and slowly let the players work out they were all hunters who fail a save at some point.
>>44080111
That was half the brainstorming in the thread that comes up: how to hunt these girls.
>>44092132
people like you make gay dictatorship a possibility
go vote hillary
>>44102497
I don't get it
>>44098551
>villains have their hands tied
> ' i ' have free reign.
does this sound familiar to you?
i smell a certain 3 letter word combo
>>44102543
>does this sound familiar to you?
No
>i smell a certain 3 letter word combo
?
>>44102536
because you need to think in five steps?
>>44092132
>above poster is obviously a subservient slut
>enjoys getting stepped on
> probably lets people step on ze in real life.
>cliquish friends mind bully and group think ze
>they are all gheiz who will vote for hillary
or are you just pretending?
>>44102592
Oh, you're just projecting
DEUS VULT when?
TF is a fetish of mine.
It says a lot about how horrifying this is that it barely even affects me; the overriding emotion I feel right now is disgust.
Let's go kill us some witches.
>>44102876
>you're_pretty_good.mp3
>>44102763
>DEUS VULT when?
When you have either sufficient numbers to swam them so they'll use up all their spells, are stealthy enough to catch them unaware and alone, or rig up a suicide vest you can trigger mid transformation, otherwise have fun being a pair of cute shoes
>>44102876
>TF is a fetish of mine.
Mine too, I like sexual bad ends though so I'm rather desensitized to it, but a game of hunters could be fun, would have to depower the girls to make it equal though
>>44103019
Are witch girls particularly immune to .308 rounds from 400 yards or IEDs? Because those seem like the go-tos.
>>44103051
There'd have to be magic resistance of some kind to prevent an instant lose condition once things started picking up.
>>44103051
Maybe not immune to the immediate effects, but remember that healing magic is a thing. So you not only have to worry about the initial killing, but ensuring the body is in such a state as that it will be impossible to repair/resurrect.
>>44102497
I don't understand why people think that comic proves any sort of point. "People act differently around people they trust" isn't exactly a mind-blowing concept.
It's like going up to some meathead at a bar. I almost guarantee that his friends call him a "faggot" as a joke all the time. But if you call him that you're gonna get punched.
>>44065923
>Hey, this is a pretty good system?
>Now what's the best way to murder little girls without looking like a lunatic?
>>44103110
>Not wanting to use the system as an excuse to roleplay out running afoul of a bratty little witch and becoming her play thing as she taunts you until she decides to end it and turn you into a snack or a new push up bra
>>44103147
This is not my fetish
>>44103174
>This is not my fetishWhat is?
>>44103051
Guns always break modern fantasy. That's why Harry Potter takes place in Britain.
This thread gave me about five new fetishes. Thanks OP.
>>44103068
blow them up and collapse a building flooded with burning napalm on them, got it.
>>44103206
>no book about the SAS hunting down wizards
Someone needs to write that.
>>44103242
The only thing that can perma-kill witches in this setting is a Doom spell (ie. other witches). Incineration is fully reversible. So you've just temporarily hindered your enemy and loudly alerted the muggle police by perpetrating what they perceive as a terrorist attack.
>>44103304
Not really related, but you reminded me of one of my favourite films.
>>44103233
Go on, what sort of fetishes, and how would they play out?
>>44103317
Can bodies/remains be hidden?
Or are we going to continue the ass-pull magic system of this world and game by saying that there is a spell that can detect the exact location of a particular witch regardless of being alive or dead, and then they can just teleport the ashes/remains, and then cast resurrection?
Because at that point, there is no redeeming value for this game other than fetish fuel. Because the author just wrote all witches as bigger Mary Sues than any Space Marine in the entire 40k history ever was.
>>44103431
That's the point. Hell "Mary Sue" is a trait you can take for your PC
>>44103431
>Because the author just wrote all witches as bigger Mary Sues than any Space Marine in the entire 40k history ever was.
That is the point.
Really no idea what makes you think its easy to flood anything with napalm as random person, or get away with shooting teenage girls.
Yeah guns can kill them, but they have more ways to counter guns than regular people, and regular people still become criminals despite the fact that guns could kill them.
>>44103431
What you fail to understand is that a "hunt witches" game using this system wouldn't be a HFY power fantasy, it'd be more like a Tom b of Horror style instant-death maze that makes the rare success all the sweeter for how impossible it is.
>>44103431
This is a setting where WWII was actually just a spat between Witches and they cast a spell on the entire planet to brainwash people into thinking it was about Nazis.
>>44103468
>Really no idea what makes you think its easy to flood anything with napalm as random person, or get away with shooting teenage girls.
I'm not the guy who initially suggested that.
>Yeah guns can kill them, but they have more ways to counter guns than regular people, and regular people still become criminals despite the fact that guns could kill them.
White Wolf Vampires, Werewolves, and Mages were all designed to use and abuse mortals as their own playthings. But even they were designed with a measure of restraint in terms of how vulnerable they were to being killed. Each had their own weaknesses or at the very least were still very much screwed if caught unawares.
This game is just awful in that it appears as if the whole point is to allow all the PCs to roll up invulnerable, immortal goddesses and than engage in a circle jerk of describing the magical realm murderfetish of random NPCs.
Yeah yeah, I know: Other witches are supposed to be the antagonists. But you can't read the comics and honestly say that's the actual intended direction.
>>44103535
>White Wolf Vampires, Werewolves, and Mages were all designed to use and abuse mortals as their own playthings.
No they were designed to explore the fundamental downsides of their respective state and how everything sucks right now but oh boy is it gonna get worse.
>>44103550
Humans can also fight back fairly effectively in WoD.
>>44103550
Sure I'll go with that. But they all started at a default power level of being able to make humanity largely their bitch provided they didn't bite off more than they could chew.
>>44103535
>This game is just awful in that it appears as if the whole point is to allow all the PCs to roll up invulnerable, immortal goddesses and than engage in a circle jerk of describing the magical realm murderfetish of random NPCs.
Yeah, its pretty much teenage girl Exalted.
Hence why we all agree that using them as antagonists would probably be more fun than playing it straight.
>>44103572
>Hence why we all agree that using them as antagonists would probably be more fun than playing it straight.
Hear hear. We find common ground.
>>44103468
and the point that guy is making is that unless we ignore or at least tone it down immensely how broken the Witches are then there's no point in really talking about this game beyond retarded fetish wankery
>>44103568
>But they all started at a default power level of being able to make humanity largely their bitch
Werwolfs actively didn't want to make humanity their bitch, mages are humanities bitch thanks to consensual reality and the Technocracy and individual vampires aren't 'that' much better at making humans their bitches initially than humans are, and while vampire society at large is, vampire society also makes the vampire its bitch far harder than humanity.
>>44103584
>and the point that guy is making is that unless we ignore or at least tone it down immensely how broken the Witches are then there's no point in really talking about this game beyond retarded fetish wankery
I happen to disagree, I don't think a RPG needs to be unambigiously winnable to be fun to mplay. The struggle can be just as engaging.
This is basically reverse Little Fears.
>>44103584
Unless people want to use it for something other than HFY Schoolgirl Murder Simulator.
Actually, a perspective flip of THAT would be more interesting. You play as a young teenage girl learning magic and having magical advantures, then find out there's some secret conspiracy who decided that having magic makes you an evil monster and wants to murder you and all your friends to "protect humanity".
>>44069648
I'll file it under things I'll never get any group to give a glance at, but thanks regardless.
>>44103084
Stop trying to read sort of satirical commentry into it
The point is all women like to be treated like trash and craved the D no exceptions.
>>44103823
He said that was the comic's point, not that it was true.
>>44103572
Fighting an evil party could still be "playing it straight." Playing as good witches and fighting wicked witches is a perfectly valid story for this game. The rulebook even states that good campaigns are the easiest to run, because the characters aren't just on a 24/7 power trip.
>>44103913
>The rulebook even states that
Considering the premise of the game, I'm not sure I trust the author's judgement on how campaigns will turn out.
>>44103941
That's love to play a game with the GM at a convention just trying to understand what type of tone he was going for.
>>44103941
Considering that most people want to be about slaughtering schoolgirls like they were orcs, I'm sure I don't trust you judgement on what the premise of the game is.
>>44104190
>Considering that most people want to be about slaughtering schoolgirls like they were orcs,
Except the schoolgirls in question are behaving like stereotypical fantasy orcs only doing the mass slaughter with magic instead of axes. Do they get a pass because you want to stroke your dick to them?
>>44103941
The premise of the game is high-school witches going on adventures. You build a character and can choose to be evil if the DM allows it, just like in other tabletop RPGs. It sounds like you're letting one sample character define the entire system for you.
>>44104239
>It sounds like you're letting one sample character define the entire system for you.
ONE sample character?
>>44103781
I get that's the point. What I don't get is people posting it like it's actually proving any sort of point. "Ha-ha this girl hates being catcalled but likes rough sex, feminism is a lie"
It doesn't follow at all. It's not even really bait, since it doesn't even make sense. Yet I see it posted pretty frequently like it's a smoking gun.
>>44104443
I think the comic is more about consent and context as important aspects of fetishism, and the separation of fantasy from reality. It demonstrates that people with extreme fetishes can still be sensitive and socially anxious. It's posted a lot because it derails threads by starting lengthy arguments and pretentious analyses of its meaning, like this one.
>>44104219
>Except the schoolgirls in question are behaving like stereotypical fantasy orcs only doing the mass slaughter with magic instead of axes.
Yes, that's indeed part of the slaughterers' revisionism. It doesn't warrant an "except".
>>44104443
You shouldn't give anti-feminists any more credit than their direct arguments earn. Large parts of their movement are based on them acting like they're right and social justice is wrong even when they haven't made an actual point.
>>44104504
>Witch like typing detected
i played this game. i am a girl and i played it with other girls and it was fun. my character was named Prissy Dupree, thanks for reading this
>>44104586
Apparently you're the only person in the thread who has.
>>44069648
This is the second edition? You need to go through it with a microscope to find any differences from the old one. I'm still not sure that I have.
What a goddamn fucking ripoff. "Complete system for playing balanced mortals!", they said. "Complete system for playing immortals!!", they said. "Complete rule revamps!" they said. Should've known not to buy my roleplaying games from pedophiles.
>>44103233
>>44103385
I can't even find five distinct fetishes here
>general TF
>inanimate TF
>TF-vore
And that's about it?
>>44104644
Well, in their defense, they did release a Magical Minutia/supplement about playing mortals. Not even close to anything that they've promised would be in the 2nd edition, but... actually, no buts. That's all it is.
>>44104520
Pretty much. It's like it's a Tom Prestom comic were a critic complain his complain his comics don't have punchline to and his witty comeback is just telling him to go fucking himself
I'm actually a little tempted to use my Hanukkah monies to buy the 34$ "perfect bundle" with all of the books and supplements, purely out of morbid curiosity for this thing. Don't know if that's a good or a bad sign.
>>44104644
I'm not sure that is the second edition, but I never read the first so I wouldn't know.
>>44104768
It's not, to the best of my knowledge. What was supposed to be the 2nd edition ("Book of Shadows") turned out to be something called "Witch Girls: Respells", which reportedly reads pretty much like an errata of the corebook, rather than the magnum opus promised to the Kickstarter patrons. People were not happy. I hear there were actual threats of legal action, but I don't know where any of those went.
>>44104774
Nowhere. kickstart is toothless and offers no legal protection.
>>44104698
Femdom and Pedeophilia spring to mind
>>44104698
Mind control, memory erasure, magical financial domination, gift wrap mummification, reality alteration, sadism and snuff to name a few. The whole game is fetish fuel.
>>44104753
I won't pay nearly as much as that, but if /tg/ or the 7chan boys decided to make a collective PDF purchase for uploading I might consider contributing a dollar.
>>44104810
I love it how 7chan literally became synonymous with their PDF request threads. I don't think anyone's visited the site for any other purpose in years.
Seems to me that any witch-hunting organization would NEED witches of their own, because you need someone to hide you from scrying spells, wake you up from enchanted sleep curses and turn you back into a real boy after you get caught in the blast of a Mass Frog Conversion Sphere.
That is a Squad Witch.
No matter how powerful the teenage sociophathic magic user is, a NATO 7.62 round between the eyes will seriously cramp her style, and the Squad Witch is there to make sure you stay human long enough to put one there.
>>44082373
I don't think green has any magic, she didn't use any and I think she was called mortal on page 1.
>>44105249
m̶u̶g̶g̶l̶e̶s̶ mudanes can use magic item the same as any way but so they properly just have a few magic wards.
>>44105249
Kinda getting into good witch vs bad witch territory. (Although good witches, being outnumbered, resorting to proper commando and guerilla tactics is pretty cool in its own fashion.)
>>44106280
That works too, looted from some covens they managed to take by surprose.
>>44106341
Then think of the good witches as...the hunter's equivalent of the IT guy, or the hacker, or whatever else.
You know, he's no good in a firefight, but he's the only one who actually understands how all the high-tech gizmos you're carting around work. And he can rewire things and bypass encryptions and the like.
>>44105249
>a NATO 7.62 round between the eyes will seriously cramp her style
[FN-FAL intensifies]
>>44104586
Examples of play? I'm just wondering about the experiences of someone who's actually played this as opposed to half the thread's idea of a grimdark hunter game and the other half (and myself) zeroing in on the fetish fuel
>>44065923
Transformation best fetish
>>44106958
In deed it is,I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to try playing a fetishy game with this setting
It says terrible things about me that the first thing I thought of when I was done with this book is "I wish they'd aged all the characters a bit so I could be turned on by all this rather than just bored."
I'd have... made use of this thing, if it dealt with slightly older girls. Probably come up with all kinds of interesting fanmade magic items, staff like that.
>>44107677
>I'd have... made use of this thing, if it dealt with slightly older girls. Probably come up with all kinds of interesting fanmade magic items, staff like that.
Refluff it then, they don't have to be young girls in your setting, I wouldn't mind playing a game like that
And what sort of magic items, spells, or "adventure" ideas did you have in mind?
>>44107701
Err... you know. The usual stuff. Useful for dungeon crawling and monster investigations. Enchanted undergarments. Potions. Lotions. Transformations...
>>44107749
>Lotions
...does it saw something that my first reaction on the idea of a modern witch using magic lotions instead of potions is "BRILLIANT"?
>>44107749
>Potions, lotions, transformations...
Transmutations, transmogrifications!
>>44107677
>>44107701
Honestly bitchy witch shenanigans with an undercurrent of fetish does sound like funAs does overtly fetishy bitchy witch shenanigans
>>44107749
>Useful for dungeon crawling and monster investigation.
In a modern setting? I'd probably put an emphasis on social interaction and politics with most of the problems caused by the witches themselves but exploring/monster hunting could be a good way to get the ball rolling or as their actual "job"
>Enchanted undergarments. Potions. Lotions. Transformations...
Go on...
>>44107776
>...does it saw something
I cannot into typing today
>>44107880
>Full party of sexy female Faciliers
I'm okay with this
Would probably be like a game of Magicka but with fetish transformations instead of explosions
...that actually makes it better
>>44107677
>>44107701
>>44107749
>>44107776
>>44107880
>>44107884
>>44107914
Wouldn't that just be a full game of Sabrina, with a touch of W.I.T.C.H/Winx Club/whatever those Italians are trying to pass as an anime nowadays?
>>44107701
You know, dirty jokes and fetish aside, considering the fact that a lot of the magic items in the book are essentially "a 12 year old girl's magical wish-fulfillment" (stuff like "full wardrobe in a single garment" or "never have to wash again magic ring" or "homework making magic robot or what have you"), I actually wouldn't be surprised if a version of the catalog aimed at slightly older girls would include bras that make your boobs bigger or curses to put on your rivals to turn them into sluts or whatever. I have a younger sister, I saw her as a 14 years old. This is what troubles girls these ages, no matter how smart or classy they otherwise are.
>>44108022
That's true for all kids this age. It's not a teenage girl thing, is a teenage thing, period. That's when you're undergoing the really big changes, all the hormones are kicking into high gear, school life suddenly becomes a lot more complex with the introduction of real cliques, the other sex suddenly becomes more interesting (after a long period of "Eww, cooties" which followed the rather complete unisexuality of the kindergarten years), etc. You think boys this age aren't concerned about whether their dick is big enough? You think they don't assume something's wrong with them if they're the last guy in class not to have a stubble and a lower-pitched voice? That they don't spend 99% of their time in class mentally undressing the girl in the seat in front of them because it creates odd, inexplicably pleasurably sensations in their nether regions?
For all of the differences between sexes, the experience of being 13-15 is actually fundamentally extremely similar for boys and girls. It's just that both sides, equally, assume that the other one is an alien species that works in completely mysterious ways. So yeah, a guy this age might not wish for a curse that could turn his perceived rival (i.e. the guy who is wittier and more handsome than he is, because jealousy is big when you're pubertying) "into a slut", but he might wish for a curse that would turn his rival into a "fag". Or for a dick growing potion. Or at least something against acne.
Remember: WGA didn't invent the child/teen magic user genre. It's an old, respectable one, and it's got its conventions and formulas. One of the things I think the game gets wrong is that it doesn't deal with those enough. For example, a central part of the formula in this type of story is to have the kids/teens thoughtlessly use magic in order to seemingly solve some day-to-day problem, only to find out it's actually got terrible consequences. Think about the sheer number of stories that do something like that. Hell, used to be the Disney Channel was like half about this kind of program, and almost every episode was the same (the moral generally being that you shouldn't turn to "easy solutions" like magic, or that you should accept yourself and your place in the world rather than trying to change them, etc.). Sometimes it got ridiculous, but it generally got that way.
It's disappointing the game almost didn't touch upon magical mishaps and the unintended consequences of the use of magic, because this right here is the defining feature of the genre. "Child magic user" stories, at least the relatively good ones, aren't about using magic to solve all your life's problems, they're about how trying to do that is wrong. If WGA was that kind of story, I'd expect actual spellcasting to be a lot easier (even for higher level spells) but for all but the most rudimentary to have bad, preferably ironic side effects. So you cast a spell to make yourself popular, and find out that now you're constantly surrounded by stalkers and fanboys. You use a spell to make your family rich, and now your parents have to work overseas and no longer have time for you. You use a spell to make all the adults in town go to sleep, but find out that it's actually a mess when only kids make the rules.
Are those stories childish? Yes. But they were meant to teach children lessons. That's the point.
>>44108191
Which begs the question: could you do that kind of thing with WGA's terrible, fetishistic stories? Would a story work which begins with the PC turning some kid into a mouse in a fit of childish anger, only to later find out that he had a family and friends and a life and realize how miserable he is, and that turning him back isn't nearly as easy? Or take the idea from >>44108022 - it's just as good for that purpose. Teenage girl who's frustrated at being flat buys a magic BE bra, and bang, she's a G-cup. Now she gets to find out that having large breasts can actually be a big bother. Story's about trying to find the magic lingerie store she originally bought it from and get the shady goblin salesperson to give her a refund.
Work with the genre, guys.
>>44107982
Depends on if or "Heros" act like the girls from the books
Personally I like the idea of a game that basically boils down to "the PCs are the cause and solution to 80% of their problems"
But magical girl adventures with or without a dose of fetish thrown in is fine too
>>44108022
Yeah, boosting one's appeance/social standing while ruining someone else's would probably be the biggest sellers, and things that make life easier/pleasurable, just behind that
>>44108096
Man, think abou transsexual curiosity (I'm not referring to adults being trannies, I'm referring to kids around this age's tendency to begin wondering about how life would be like as the opposite sex. I read somewhere it's one of those somethings literally like 97-98% of teenagers will do at least once, and those who said they didn't were lying). Teenage witches would be ALL OVER gender bending, all the time. Themselves, their friends, their teachers, their rivals. It'd be like one of those webcomics.
>>44108218
Honestly? I'd try to show there are consequences for doing terrible things, though almost never directly affecting the PCs, the magic given to the girls pretty much makes that impossible unless they piss off another witch but showing that the people they fuck over have lives and families and seeing how the players deal with watching the effects of what they've done could be interesting
Course it could go full Stanford prison experiment bht that could be neat to watch too
>>44108449
I'm not gonna lie, I keep thinking the best case for something like this would be for it to play like a game version of Wotch with more TF fetish cheesecake and honestly that does sound like fun to me
>>44108449
Huh, playing around with TG spells is something I don't think it touched on
...When witches "experiment" in college do you think they turn themselves male instead of trying lesbians or do they do both?
>>44109400
They turn their boyfriends female, judging by the game's mindset.
>>44109616
>GF goes through a lesbian phase
>Instead of breaking up with you transforms you into a 10/10 bombshellMay or may not have thrown in a bit of mindfucking to make you more of a lesbian slut
>Teaches you how to be pretty and how enjoyable a soft female body is
>Go from BF to her bestie with benefits
I should not be aroused as I am
>>44109773
You forgot
>Leaves you as female when she breaks up with you
>>44109839
Not enough horribleness. WGA mean being the most horrible possible to anyone without the power to stop you. Lucinda's practically a high-functioning sociopath, and the franchise adores her.
>>44110310
>Turns you into her new favorite nighty when she breaks up with you
>Finds a better lesbian GF and turns you into a feeldo to fuck her with
>Is a bit peckish one day and wonders if a sweet GF like you will make a sweet snack
>Wants to try out lesbian femdom, will make it more interesting with her magic
Take your pick
If I could take reading through the book without cringing hard enough to instinctively Alt+F4 as soon as I read more than one sentence, I'd kitbash this with Unknown Armies. The idea of running this as a game of power at a price, hubris and madness is almost too tempting to pass up - the material is there, so it just needs self-awareness.
Unfortunately, the lack of self-awareness is exactly why the book is so horribly painful to read.
>>44065923
I'm looking at the rules, and it seems like you can't turn people into other people, or change aspects of people beyond buffing their abilities. Sorry, fetishists.
>>44110719
You can turn people into objects/animals and then change them to other things
Plus the spells in the book are explicitly sample spells and it advises the reader and GM to make their own using the book spells as guidelines
>>44110799
I'm probably wrong, but I like to imagine that maybe they held back with some of that shit on purpose to deter the fetishists. Or maybe they're coming at this task from such a place of innocence that the gross shit we think of just doesn't occur to them.
>>44110919
Most of the designers used to run TF fetish websites, back when it first came out they'd prowl the web looking for discussion of the game and if they're old fetish sites were brought up they'd go full damage control
They know damn well what it's like
>>44111509
Welp, there goes my fantasy of women running their own good, clean RPGs and being completely free of the sick shit that I have to put up with at my table.
>>44067025
>Or it could go full magical realm with young preteen-teen girls gleefully transforming non witches into animals, food, clothes, or other small objects while mind wiping and mind rapping any muggle they wish with normal people completely powerless against them
honestly, you can do that with DnD
>>44111833
Not with starting level spells
>>44073917
Burning and drowning were the acid tests. If you burnt or drowned, you're not a witch.
You're dead. But you're not a witch.
>>44111922
You got to love that logic.
Well, /tg/, you know what we gotta do. Begin making up perverted magic items and spells.
>>44113014
Half my goto fetishes are already in the book though
>>44107677
You obviously missed the page with rules for playing older and younger witches.
>>44113014
Got an idea for a TG spell and a slut spell, on my phone now so I can't stat them like in the books but anyone got other ideas?
>>44113401
I didn't, but it's just one page. It doesn't even have any pictures. That doesn't satisfy me.
I did, however, only now notice it's got the Star of David on it.
Of course, the witches are Jewish. Now everything makes sense.
>>44113651
Look up "seal of Solomon" and magic
>>44113603
Futanari? Bimbofication? Summon tentacles? Grow tentacles? Control tentacles? Transform someone into a bodysuit/skinsuit? Vore spell? Genital switching? Breast Expansion? Ass Expansion? Cock Expansion? Lips Expansion? Age changing? Turn to cowgirl? Induce lactation? Induce urination? Cause fatness? Cause body odor/hairiness? Induce extreme lust? Induce extreme gluttony?
Just go to /d/, everything there is a spell waiting to be written.
>>44113681
A symbol from Jewish tradition, which later on went to symbolize the entire religion. It's believed to be the literal shape of the shield of King David, which his son, King Solomon, made his personal symbol. Solomon was, according to Jewish tradition, a peerless magician who could easily command any demon, and enslaved innumerable demons to teach him the secrets of the universe and build his temple. His mastery of them was so complete that all demons and evil spirits everywhere came to fear him so much that even the sight of his symbol terrifies them. It's used in Christian, Muslim and Jewish exorcism.
>>44113729
The deeds of Solomon described in Jewish and Islamic literature practically read like a mythological hero. Muslim tradition's got a list a mile long of all the magical feats he was capable of (such as commanding all the fires and winds, speaking the language of every animal, crossing the length of the world in an evening's walk and summoning geysers of molten bronze from beneath the earth), while the Jews attribute to him such feats as communication with the deepest hells and highest heavens, the defeat and subjugation of Asmodeus the king of demons (whose ring he went on to take and use as a focus for his power), and the creation of a magical throne with "wings like an eagle" which could fly instantly anywhere in the world and beyond, even to heaven or hell.
>>44113729
Why did you have to ruin that /pol/fag's perfectly good shitpost with a bunch of interesting knowledge?
>>44113796
>a magical throne with "wings like an eagle"
I guess Baba Yaga had to settle for the bottom half.
>>44113729
>>44113796
It is also worth noting that both Judaism and Islam generally consider magic to be an evil thing (although Judaism is more lenient, with most Jewish religious authorities agreeing the benevolent or protective magic is allowed, if practiced by a pious person), but King Solomon was morally faultless (his Hebrew name, Ahuviel, literally means "God's Favorite", and the Jews believe that for having asked God for nothing but the wisdom to be a good king he has proven that he already possesses ultimate wisdom and thus granted by God all the world's riches and all noble qualities) and could thus perform any magic with no fear or hesitation. In fact, some sources claim that he has learned magic from Raziel himself, the angel of secrets, and later wrote down some of his knowledge in the so called "Sepher Raziel" (the book of Raziel), considered a fundamental magical text.
>>44113682
Part of the problem is there's spells already for some of those, part of it is I want to try to make things that could hypothetically have use besides complete fetish fuel
>>44114010
It's the world of fetish and magic, anon. Nothing ruling out that the magic produced by "induce lactation" is as nutritious as a full day's meal, or whateverthefuck. Besides, plenty of spells in the book are already for vanity/pointless cruelty to mundanes. Just make them perverted, no one will know.
>>44073917
>muggles
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>>44103304
there is a certain fanfiction where Harry and Hermoine do the sensible thing and ask the muggle government for help against Voldie.
Invisibility Spells? Thermal optics
Obliviate? electronic surveilance.
Super wizard? .50 cal headshot from half a mile away, he's dead before he hears the shot.
>>44114678
JK Rowling once wrote that the way as she imagines the mages in her world are not fighters. She said that if a typical mage from her books got into a fight with a farmer with a shotgun, the farmer would win. So, I got mad respect for her because she's one of the few (if not ONLY) author I know where magic and mages aren't some power wish-fulfillment fantasy able to bend "mundanes| to their will by threat of magical violence.
>>44114780
She never did as much with that as I thought she would. I thought Harry's lingering hatred of the Dursleys would be his last temptation, the thing that makes him not perfect, maybe even the thing that makes him as bad as the bad guys. His own way, but that plot point never really went anywhere. He's inexplicably perfect forever despite having the same shitty loveless upbringing as Tom Riddle.
>>44114780
too bad most English people dont own guns
HEYO!
>>44114780
This is commonly quoted, but the problem is that nobody can ever find a source. In other words, no, she did not actually say that.
>>44103147
Why have a push-up bra when she can just magic herself up some bigger boobs?
Why don't more magical settings and/or fanfiction of magical settings have magic and magical items for all common kinks and perceived sexual issues? Magical people should still have those, so there should at least be attempts at making things to help with them. If there isn't, then there should be a decent reason why they aren't possible or commonplace.
>>44114928
Yeah, but when they do, they tend to be shotguns at the hands of farmers. Generally out in the British boondocks, which is to say anywhere that isn't London.
>>44103233
You're not supposed to use exploding dice when rolling for a new fetish.
>>44114943
Because when they do (Book of Erotic Fantasy, Nymphology, Love and Sex in the Ninth World, Blood-Dimmed Tides) everyone calls them perverts and turns their book into a joke.
>>44114678
ah found it.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3421129/1/Muggle-Summer-Wizard-s-Fall
>>44114993
>>44114943
Because most players don't want that in their games. They want maybe some implied or fade-to-black sex and nothing more than that. And who can blame them? It's a tabletop game, not a session of mutual masturbation.
