This is how I BBEG
>>43948898
Fortuna is a good exemple of the BBEG ho feel into an absolute "the end justify the means" in a way it make him almost only a subjective BBEG because in the end he's still a good guy to himself and he act upon what he thinks is moral and he believe knowledge is above morality, he's the mad scientist trope in reality but the universe he's in makes him even cooler. He's repeatable yet complex, he's the opposite of what most people consider a good villain ( we don't love to hate him) but yet he's appealing as a BBEG.
11/10 choice of BBEG example OP
>>43948970
It was a fun manga before this point but the heavy /tg/ turn it took was amazing. Ive had to go back and read the whole thing to realize just how good it is.
>BBEG
Ugh.
>>43948898
You BBEG by being an insufferable weeaboo on a board that doesn't want you?
Sounds like a shitty BBEG.
>>43949002
it's not over yet, and I'm eager to see if there's a twist, like suddenly due to Fortuna's action he awoke a Bigger BBEG and now they have to destroy it together, it would be a nice twist and basically pulling the "American went on the moon first because they recruited the Nazi" image. Making player ally with lesser evil is something i'd like to see more of, it's really funny to do to spark discord and generally it's pretty epic.
>>43948898
This is how I BBEG
>>43949057
I am content for him to be non-repentant and to be more or less beaten. His current reincarnation is a good guy, I'd like him to consume Fortuna.
I dont know. Im not a good writer outside of smut.
>>43949031
Here you go
>>43949031
Fuck off.
>>43949112
For me I like how despite how the character is funny it doesnt take away from the wrongness of his actions. Might post some of why he got so reviled.
>>43949094
You didn't give me anything if you're still here, weeaboo.
>>43949100
How about you fuck off to your fully functional cancer containment board? No one wants you here.
>>43948898
What manga is this?
>>43949134
>calling someone weaboo
>on 4chan
>>43949302
Spirit Circle.
Get ready for feels.
>>43949134
>How about you fuck off to your fully functional cancer containment board? No one wants you here.
>calling one of the original board a "containment board"
what?
>>43948898
frankly that women might be a bit retarded if she was unable to understand most of that
the direction shit made no sense but it was otherwise pretty straightforward
>>43949134
>>No one wants you here
>he actually thinks he's the majority
>>43949597
I kind of assumed she meant that she was talking about how far astray he had gone. He's literally talking about the end of the world.
Or she didnt understand, I dont know.
Anywho, next is after a few years.
Also I was kind of hoping for more discussion of BBEGs.
>>43949134
This post smells of newfag troll. Or Nazimod recently decided to start posting again.
>>43949597
>frankly that women might be a bit retarded if she was unable to understand most of that
I think it's not that she doesn't understand the theory behind it, but refuses to ever consider comprehending the significance of the idea and why it would get him so hyped. She has already decided that he's a madman, so anything he spouts no longer has a meaning to her.
How exactly is this supposed to be better than Naruto SCIENCE?
>>43949671
>>43949685
makes sense
>>43949671
>>43949698
For me it is better because all the Naruto edgelords try to prove through monologue why THEY ARE ACTUALLY RIGHT.
Fortuna doesnt care. He's like a Nazi scientist. Polite, intelligent, and completely lacking a moral code that would steer him right.
>>43949827
More years later
>>43949741
Now come on, Nazi scientists felt they had good reasons to kill six million Jews and kill everybody between Poland and Vladivostok while this guy just wakes up and destroys the world because that's the proposed side-effect of the application of some theory.
He also seems to have a hard time in keeping categories and objects appart, but that's an artifact of this being a comic.
>>43949948
Posting these out of order as I just want to show his descent into BBEG-ness
>>43949671
>Also I was kind of hoping for more discussion of BBEGs.
you fell for the classic blunder
sort of
>>43949969
>BBEG
He's basically a drug addict and not black, so how can you even consider him evil?
so whats this manga called?
>>43950084
im guessing because he wanted to destroy a whole fucking universe just so he could visit others
>>43950129
Chances is that it wouldn't even work or he could get the experiment set up, but it turns out that the effects are completely not what he expected because he's wildly mixing categories and objects there.
Which usually only works in politics or in Manga.
>>43950109
hm i found it spirit circle its starting off a lot more shonen then i expected
>>43950270
>>43950270
>>43950315
Ya it escalates. I remember reading a while ago and not thinking much, and then it popped back up.
awwwwwwwwwwwwww
>>43950582
>hasnt finished the chapter
get rekt
>>43950604
i is sad
>>43949608
>If I call him the minority instead, it'll seem like we're welcome here!
Doesn't work that way, weeaboo. Your boards are the minority, your traffic is the minority. Go back to your weeb boards.
>>43950661
ok back to dawww
>>43948898
This is how I BBEG
>>43950718
whats that from
I almost pity him.
>>43950971
Oh shit, gotta track down the latest chapter.
>>43950971
#REKT
poor guy he never deserved the witches brand
>>43950971
>FUCKING NORMIES
and be careful when your selling flowers
>>43949937
>Nazi scientists felt they had good reasons to kill six million Jews and kill everybody between Poland and Vladivostok
>>43950960
Five Nights at Freddy's.
>>43951316
you idiot, it's clearly from metal gear
oh god so many difrent emotions
also hitting your head on a rock what a way to go
>>43949548
Oh man, humankind AND humanity?
Nice writing
>>43950711
You are literaly the only person whining about this shit. It's a given that we're a bunch of losers loitering around the internet instead of actually doing anything, but even in the context of that, get a life. Seriously.
>>43949320
>Everyone on 4chan is a weeabo
>no exceptions
This old joke just points out people who don't know what weeaboo means
>>43952492
key word there joke
>>43952165
Crunchyroll translations, what can one do?
>>43949573
Man, this is a stupid solution. Any time you toss the wayward apprentice out and tell them to give up what they enjoy they're going to go full badguy eventually. It never works to stop them, it just removes them from your control and ability to guide them.
>>43949937
>Nazis thought they were right.
Pffftt. Oh ho ho ho ho hah. Heh. Look, there were a few psychos, but they were really seriously heavily justifying their own actions, because people cannot live with themselves if they don't justify how they are.
>>43950960
Slayers.
>>43949685
I think you're ignoring the significance of the fact that in order to make rune he had to tear apart the soul of that ghost girl, along with a bunch of nature spirits, which kills the land they were taken from.
>>43955929
Man, is it weird that I kind of tune all this stuff when fighting the bad guy? I mean, his master plan is usually only interesting in how it can be thwarted.
It doesn't matter if he's trying to find the secret name of God or whatever, you just kill him and break all his shit. It's like that manga about the big-titted demon lord and economics. I think one guy said that his response would be:
"Sure, but I came so far. Not killing you would be silly."
Before shanking her in the tits.
>>43956015
It's not weird per say, it just shows laziness and a lack of forethought.
Also, you're missing key interpersonal relationships. Fortuna, the BBEG there, is her father/brother/soulmate/eternal nemesis, she was an orphan and he took her and raised her. The Manga covers 7 or 8 different lives they've lived together, before it gets to this point. This was their first lifetime, way back in notAtlantis
>>43948898
what is this?
>>43956295
That honestly sounds more complicated than nuanced and engaging. Generally, the more esoteric the goal, the more confusing it is. And that's assuming it's even plausible.
>>43956377
None of their lives are particularly long, two or three chapters at most. She carries her grudge through most of them, sometimes because she remembers, sometimes just for spite. It's not a great story, but it's good enough to read while you wait for a good one to be updated.
>>43949130
>>43949112
>Formation D
Exploit now
Also explanation. Is this about a wizard who has become the demons and doesn't even realize it? Also, what chinese comic is this?
this is grimdark done right.
>>43956549
Spirit Circle, and yes but no. He just places no value in the existence of people who he doesn't personally know.
>>43956549
It's actually about eternal recurrence and coming to terms with the cruel vagaries of life. About how two people deal with the circumstances that place them at odds with each other again and again in life after life. This is the seventh life we've seen of these souls. At first it looks like it's just going further into the past, a simple chronological reincarnation and we're seeing them in reverse order, but it becomes more complicated than that.
Each life is a handful of chapters long, this one being a bit longer, given its importance in starting the cycle. This particular life is, in fact, about a wizard who doesn't realize he's become the demons. He eventually realizes why his friend is pissed off at his actions and the chain of events that led him to do such monstrous things. He just still doesn't really care.
Maybe he will at the climax.
>>43951131
>/jp/'s counseling session takes a turn for the worse.
>>43952165
>humankind
Humans themselves
>humanity
The thing that makes us human and seperates us from the beasts
Fuck that was a good read.I haven't cried in almost a year.
>>43958973
i had to go do a bunch of stuff for a few hours but now its time for me to finish it off.
it really makes you feel so many difrent emotions
>>43959485
ok im up to fortuna
holy shit he is evil as fuck
>>43955571
>>43951286
The outcome's the same whether they believed it from the bottom of their hearts or just plugged their ears and ignored all evidence to the contrary - most of them defended their actions down to their dying breath and they oftentimes straight up countinued their work after the war. Either way, they end up showing some of their character and what makes them tick.
This guy on the other hand acts the way he does because his sense of self is so weak that he can't engage with the people around him in any meaningful way.
cant wait for the next chapter
>>43960756
It's not like Fortune is a complete sociopath. He can still hold people dear, enjoy the company of his friend and care for those around him. It's just that everyone and everything else is just so far out of his spectrum that they that they effectively have no value outside of being material for experiments.
>>43961179
That's the value of his other lives. They gave him broader empathy.
>>43963561
Fortuna is the first incarnation, though. He already had a certain level of empathy from the start.
