How large would a bird have to be to carry a ~150lb human being in flight?
>>43946422
Why didn't the eagles just calculate their own weight and size?
>>43946422
What do you mean? African or european?
At least 3-5 banememes.
Ut have to the size of deez nutz
>>43946590
For you.
Maximum load of a birds wing is supposedly about 25 kg/sq. m.
So you need almost three square metres of wing just to support the guy, plus enough for the bird itself.
Largest known flying bird is Argentavis magnificens. Weight was about 70 kg. Wingspan about 7 metres, total wing surface area maybe five square metres. So that's only a little bit short of what you need.
I'd guess a bird of about 200 lbs. or so with a wingspan of about eight metres could just about do it. Probably quite possible physically; there were much larger pterosaurs.
>>43946422
Large enough.
/thread
>>43946741
You can't /thread your own post.
Especially not one with such a lame response.
>>43946500
African or European... birds? Is carrying capacity geographically dependent?
>>43947282
You done fucked up
>>43947282
>>43947282
>>43947282
It's happening
>>43947282
>>43946422
Not that big.
>>43947282
>>43947282
>>43947282
This is obviously a troll, guys, right?
I mean, some kind of post "Kirk-who?" metatroll?
Please, be a troll.
>>43946500
I don't know... OH SHI-
>>43947282
Anon, I...
>>43947282
No I think he meant Africans or Europeans. I mean technically speaking Africans are smaller than Europeans on average, plus they'd weigh less from malnutrition.
Still somewhat of stupid think for him to say, I don't see what everyone is freaking out about you said.
>>43947282
>>43946663
Something sized like a queatzalcoatlus pterosaur could probably carry a man. They weighed 200-250kg or so.
I'm not sure wether pterosaur type wings or bird wings are the most efficient though.
>>43946500
Came here for this. Wasn't disappointed.
>>43947282
>>43947741
Giant Pterosaurs likely couldn't carry anything near that. Doesn't matter if the wingspan could support that weight, their bones were probably so hollow they'd break under someone's weight.
>>43947282
What the fuck am I reading here?!
>>43947673
>>43947282
So that makes two of you. You're: underaged, new to traditional gaming, and/or retarded.
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>>43947374
>>43947375
>>43947432
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>>43947542
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>>43947629
im pretty sure anon got the refrence he was just saying it dident quite fit for ops question.
if you are all right and he dident get it then holy shit anon go watch monty python and the holy grail
>>43947805
>underaged
The film came out 40 years ago, anon.
>>43947805
I'll take "trolls trolling trolls" for $200, Alex.
>>43947857
Don't you throw your facts at me this way anon. Next you'll tell me it's been over 15 years since we were in the 90's
>>43947857
Yeah. Which means it's entirely likely that the chucklefuck earlier in the thread is too young to know what Monty Python is.
Kirk, VHS, and now Monty Python. The end of days is upon us, fa/tg/uys.
>>43947971
had a guy who did not know what a floppy disk was eariler
>>43947885
>His name...was Atreyu!
>>43947986
however i come back to this
>>43947856
anon dident miss the refrence he was saying it did not fit
>>43947986
>>43948074
>he got the reference
I feel disinclined to believe that.
>>43948110
i belive that a person can easily not know the refrence but i still think anon got it in this case and i agree with him the refrence does not really fit here
although i was still going to make the refrence if nobody had made it knowing it dident fit
well i probably would not have noticed it dident fit until anon pointed it out
>>43947971
>hurr someone didn't get a joke from some 25+ year old movie, UNDERAGE! REEEE!
Honestly, not getting a Monty Python reference is kinda understandable. It wasn't nearly as prolific as say Star Trek was. Maybe it's because I'm American, but Monty Python only showed up on some obscure premium cable channel for hipster movies/tv-shows(not insulting his work, that channel showed a lot of stuff I liked) and rarely at that. Most people who haven't personally seen the film probably wouldn't understand the reference. I'm 25 and my only consistent exposure to Monty Python has essentially been cultural osmosis via the internet.
>>43946422
Depends on the kind of magic it's using.
>>43947971
someone didn't know what VHS was? when did this happen?
>>43948158
difrent anon here.
i can only realy half blame somebody for not knowing kirks personality the original series is very rarely on the tv where i am.
not knowing who he is is a bit odd though
but yeah its probably ok not to know python (as long as you remedy the situation post haste)
>>43948179
>>43947282
>>43948158
>his parents never watched the movie with him
>he never ran around the house in a bedsheet with his sibling banging coconuts together as a child
Sucks to be you mate
>>43948232
i say again
>>43947856
>>43947971
>>43948179
>>43948229
I was in a thread once where some guy didn't know what an overhead projector was.
>>43948158
The velocity of an unladen swallow is one of those references that tends to pop-up fairly often, though, so one might be expected to "get" it without even having seen the movie.
>>43947282
>Holy Grail quoting has finally died out, to the point where there are gamers who don't know its lines.
Thank christ. If I had to hear another shitty neckbeard make 'Ni!' jokes I would vomit blood.
>>43947282
>>43947282
The African has the best chance
>>43948324
Ni!
>>43948275
I'm 18 and we used those things in school all the time up until ~5 years ago. Was he literally 12?
>>43948275
Did schools just stop existing?
>>43947741
Birds, obv. That's called evolution.
>>43947857
You say that like ti somehow invalidates his point.
>>43948158
>not insulting his work, that channel showed
...
by "his"....do you mean....Monty Python's?
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>>43948385
Someone did that joke where you post a projector in reply to some guy who's putting too much thought into something, and this dude was all "what's that?"
I honestly don't know what his excuse could have been other than him being both really young and homeschooled. Even if he was born after 9/11 they still would have used those old school projectors by the time he was old enough to be in school.
>>43948457
Maybe too old? Expected a tabletop desk projector? You know, the ones that used transparencies.
>>43948324
Ni!
>>43948471that's what the picture was
>>43948471
That's a overhead projector
>>43948289
Really? All I've gleaned from bits and pieces I've seen and heard over the years.
>tis but a fleshwound
>rabbit of caberong
>help, help I'm being repressed
>the knights that say nee, or something like that.
>>43948569
i have never seen the rabbit refrenced
now the holy hand grenade itself plenty of times
>>43947282
>>43947856
am i really the only person who realizes this
>>43948324
Life of Brian was the superior Monty Python flick, to be honest familia.
>>43946869
>You can't /thread your own post.
People say that, but I see it all the time.
>>43948753
You *can't* shoplift but people still do it anyway.
Wow
>>43948753
It's kind of like saying "Oooh, burn!" On your own joke.
You are physically capable of doing it, but if you do it, it is in poor taste and you're also retarded.
>>43946422
google 'Haast's eagle'.
>>43948246
Are you me?
>Williaume Fontaine de la Teur Dauterive
>150 pounds
>>43950254
Depends, did you find the coconut in a river in Virginia near the appelachians?
>>43947282
Excellent bait. So many people took it I don't even have a relevant bait image.
>>43947971
I watched one of their movies, didn't make me want to watch another, still don't. Get over it.
>>43948585
Really? The Killer Rabbit crops up in other shit all the time. I think the most recent one was same card-based game called The Guild of Dungeoneering.
>>43947282
+1 reply for the screencap I guess, welcome to tg.
>>43948324
It's finally over
Didn't get it either. Monthly python is very British with a limited audience.
>>43947282
>>43947749
Moderately disappointed it took until the second post though.
You're slipping, old man...
>>43954441
We have met the cancer, and it is you.
>>43946422
Birds are lame. They need to use their legs to launch into flight. This means big birds need huge leg muscles, which are very heavy. This seriously constrains their size.
Pterosaurs on the other hand were quadrupeds and used their already beefy flight muscles to launch, allowing them to achieve much greater sizes.
>>43947785
They were no worse than birds.
That doesn't refute what you're saying, but if you're correct I would expect a similarly sized bird to break as well.
>>43946663
You've underestimated Argentavis' wing area. It's actually about 8 m^2. Large raptors typically have pretty low aspect ratios as it reduces their turning radius, allowing them to make better use of thermals. However, considering that Argentavis had enough trouble achieving flight without a rider weighing as it did, I'd say that you're seriously underestimating the required size.
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>>43955953
>reverse image search
Being a giant-headed dinosaur is pain
You know what's worse? Today i handed my phone to one of my students so he wouldn't be bored to death.
Only game i have there is Doom.
He enjoyed it and asked me what game it was.
He is 18 years old. Never heard of Doom.
>>43956403
>Pterosaurs Heresies
Not even once. The guys the paleontology equivalent of a conspiracy theorist. I can find a good refutation of his claims regarding pterosaurs launching if you would like.
>>43956403
Well, duh, of course it is impossible to vault-take off if you are a skeleton
>>43956699
Fuck it, this shit is too interesting to not present
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/tetrapod-zoology/world-must-ignore-reptileevolution-com/
