Why is reading about the 40k universe so comfy, /tg/?
Before bed I always think about 40k. I think about all the space marine chapters and legions prior to them conquering the galaxy in the name of the Emperor.
Puts me to sleep so easily.
The grim darkness and endless fighting reminds us of our own world.
>>43783597
Personally it fills me with hope about how we will march from earth and take over massive amounts of space.
>>43783597
You're a teen and haven't grown out of it yet.
Or:
You were a kid when you got into and are enjoying rose tinted glasses and nostalgia.
>>43783720
I'm 24 and I really delved into 40k only a few months ago, before I only knew Warhammer by name and the old fantasy MMO
>>43783905
Are you me?
>>43783905
>>43784156
Well then you just like it I guess.Sadly you missed GW's golden age of actually giving a shit. By two decades. Ah, well if you still like it for what it is that's fine too I guess.
>>43784240
Honestly, I only really got into 40keks after I fell in love with Konrad-senpai. Is husbandofaggotry a good enough reason to like it?
>>43783597
I dunno but Ive recently been getting into the lore and that shit just sucks you in.
Its kinda like that scene in Wall-E where the fat ass captain spends like a whole scene looking up shit about earth except replace all the nice shit on earth with dark and dreary war torn galaxy with lore coming out of every crevasse.
You can basically go to any page on lore and be indefinitely linked to new shit you had no idea about.
>>43784463
This too. It's the TV Tropes of settings.
>>43784292
He dead nigga
>>43783597
Read me a bedtime story /tg/?
>>43783720
Or you're just a jaded twat that doesn't like fun things.
>>43784513
DEATH TO THE ALIEN, MUTANT AND UH... GLORYNESS.
>>43784292
>husbandofaggotry a good enough reason to like it?
>husbandofaggotry
>good enough
>implying husbandos are ever goodYes obviously. The whole thing is build around heroic Arno Breker statue like dudes in WW2 kind of propaganda style writing pandering to our need for hero worship and machismo. And obviously there are 18 husbandos to chose from.
>>43784546Or maybe you are.
>>43783694
You don't know much about space then.
The chances that humans will ever make it out of the solar system are close to zero.
The travel time to Pluto is currently 15 years, for a human to make that trip in an environment that kills you with no chance to resupply you would either need stasis, or a space ship the size of a city. meanwhile light takes about 4 and a half hours to travel that distance.
Some of the closest planets to earth outside the solar system lie about 40 light years.
Now barring some ground breaking physics discovering which is soo very safe to say won't happen you can't travel faster than light, nothing can and more importantly for this argument matter can't travel anywhere near that close to the speed of light, not if your transport is supposed stay a spaceship anyways. Next thing to mention, acceleration. The time it takes to accelerate to near light speeds would take a ridiculous amount of time. The human body can only take so many g's of force before you blackout and die.
Jet's accelerate at 88 – 118 m/s2, exerting 9 – 12 g, that shit is intense. You have to wear special suits for that and be in prime physical condition. the speed of light is 2.998*10^8.
To constantly accelerate at 12 g to the speed of light takes about month.
Obviously no one can handle the stresses of accelerating at that speed for that long. So half that speed? 6 g is still a lot and it will take two months. 3 g is maybe doable, but that would be 4 months of it.
There are even more issues with wormholes, and teleporting but in the best-case scenario the punchline is you're dead.
>Space is bullshit
>>43784587
Semi-frequent reminder that Sanguinius is best girlActually I'm more of a Magnus apologist
>>43784645
>Which is why I read Warhammer. ;-;
>>43784664
Sanguinius is only useful for being a hot waifu. I would also prefer magnus, as she could at least hold up a conversation about physics and other fun related things.
>>43784645
people once thought sailing across the oceans would be impossible, that traveling faster than horseback would be impossible, and thought that humans flying would be impossible.
We may not see it in our lifetime, or ever for that matter, but that doesn't mean it's not achieveable.
>>43784645
exponential acceleration doesn't work like that
you are assuming 1g is the base a human can take at all times
if a human is already in a space accelerating at 10g, after a while it becomes like 1g to him
>>43784712
In that case, there's always a slim chance we could build craftworlds like the Eldar, and convert nearby debris directly into energy.
>>43784715
I don't think Physics would really be Magus' thing. She's more into weird occult stuff
>>43784715
Don't you talk shit about the fabulous fucking hawkbro.Will agree Magnus did nothing wrong, though.
>>43784790
This is gonna turn into a Warhammer High thread, isn't it?
>>43784832
where the fuck in that is my Ferrus? I can never see her.
>>43784752
We are all only as smart as how quickly we feel stupid. Hopefully you felt dumb as soon as you typed that and you are taking the shame as a motivator to improve yourself in the future
>>43784856
Top row, farthest left
>>43784872
Thanks Curzefag.
Eh, 7/10 not sure how the handies would go.
>>43784832
Jaghatai is making me feel funny things
>>43784856
Holding wrench top left.
>>43784832
Wait who is that supposed to be on top of Magnus?
>>43784983
Fairly obviously Russ.
>>43785004
I think the yellow threw me off
>>43784832
Yes. And this pleases me.
>>43785117
Good to know I could please you, Slaanesh. Now will you get Konrad-senpai to notice me?
>>43784513
ONCE UPON A TIME THERE WAS A XENOS.
I TORE OUT HIS SPINE IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR.
THEN I KILLED ALL OF HIS FRIENDS.
THEN I KILLED HIS ENTIRE FAMILY.
THEN MY BATTLE-BROTHERS AND I RAZED HIS CITY.
THEN MY CHAPTER BOMBED HIS PLANET FROM ORBIT UNTIL ITS SURFACE WAS MOLTEN.
IT WAS A GOOD DAY.
>>43785179
I would, but I owe Tzeentch a favor. Sorry, sweetie.
>>43785213
Very well. Until next we meet, I shall continue feeding you with my excessive shitposting and husbandofagging.
>>43784645
I wouldn't rule out bullshit physics breaking tech. We've thought similar things were impossible in the past only to be proven completely and utterly wrong.
Plus Quantum Physics is fucking weird, there may be more esoteric knowledge to be plundered from the quantum world where physics stops resembling the macro-view of things.
>>43783597
it allows you to live with unerring purpose vicariously through the stories of soldiers and space marines of the imperium of man.
>>43784240
Not him, but I've only ever been into the fluff. The game seems fun, but I've never had the time or money, not to mention my general misgivings with dealing with 'enthusiasts.' I wouldn't try to get into it until GW gets its shit together anyway.
>>43784832
There needs to be porn of this.
>>43784513
>>43784491
those poor poor Primarchs
>>43783597
Because it reminds you that no matter how shitty your life might be, your average Guardsman still has it 100 times shittier.
For those experiencing troubles, it's cathartic to know that someone who has it even worse than you is persevering, and that's what I think 40k appeals to.
Because despite the horrors and grim darkness of a galaxy that knows only war, there is STILL that glimmer of human hope, that spark inside all of us that never truly goes out until we die.
>>43785461
>only to be proven completely and utterly wrong.
Wormholes and quantum fuckery are starting to look promising. While I'm sure it'll never happen in our lifetime, it's still looking more and more probable as time goes on.
>>43786251
>until we die
even then......
Probably because in the 40K universe there is a real, cosmic evil, and at the end of the day what is the right thing to do is usually pretty cut and dried, even when the right thing causes hard choices to be made.
There's a comforting sense in having a purpose and morally righteous goal compared to our morally gray world.
>>43784645
>Jet's accelerate at 88 – 118 m/s2, exerting 9 – 12 g, that shit is intense. You have to wear special suits for that and be in prime physical condition. the speed of light is 2.998*10^8.
>To constantly accelerate at 12 g to the speed of light takes about month.
>Obviously no one can handle the stresses of accelerating at that speed for that long. So half that speed? 6 g is still a lot and it will take two months. 3 g is maybe doable, but that would be 4 months of it.
>There are even more issues with wormholes, and teleporting but in the best-case scenario the punchline is you're dead.
I agree that we're very unlikely to make it out of the system, but the 'acceleration' argument is pretty crap
At current estimates suggest we'd be lucky to find a system within ten light years of travel. I don't know how close to the speed of light we'd be able to get a manned ship, but certainly it'd take far longer than 10 years to get to that system. With that time frame, adding another year to manage the necessary acceleration is not a big deal. And a 10 light year system would be very fortunate, it's likely we'd be looking at 100ly journeys that would take colossal generation ships to complete. A extra year in 150 is no worries
>>43783597
Depends whether you're reading a good writer. Got a bit more discerning when it comes to 40k lit now. I only wish I could get a copy of the Eisenhorn omnibus for less than £80
Because its a setting where man is shown to be great, in spite of everything.
>>43784645
WARP NIGGA
GET ANYWHERE WITHOUT TIME
WARP SPACE NIGGA
>>43784734
I don't know if anyone thought sailing the ocean was impossible, people have been dropping shit in the water and watching them float since the beginning of time.
>>43783597
any rec on the less common know BL novel
i already read most of the big BL books or series
>>43784645
What about Automated systems? Robot ships sent out with human Breeding chambers and Genetic stock. Seeds thrown out into the great abyss with the hope that at least one will take root.
I wonder ow those humans would feel, They never asked for the lot they will be given, The weight of human civilization put upon their shoulders, At best they will be able to detect the scattered radio babble from the cradle, the scattered rambles from their forefather's home.
>>43789661
Wrong picture, But it looks good enough that I'll keep it.
>>43784861
Well I'm certainly not going to take some random idiot on the internet seriously, especially when his post is just an insult and nothing else.
>you will never be Death Guard
>>43789661
Yeah, won't work.
Human infants aren't like most animal species out there that can do fine on their own as long as they stay sheltered.
We are frail and weak until we reach 15 years of age.
Would make more sense if mankind started selecting the strongest and most intelligent of our kind, training those, them putting them into stasis capsules and sending them off across space (or clones of said individuals).
36 indivuals per "Ark", 13 men and 13 women, tasked with rebuilding civilization in whatever planet their ship lands and deems "habitable"
This is actually the only way to further human evolution and create human "subspecies" actually.
>>43783597
As shitty as your life is, it ain't as bad as that guy's
It's an apathetic kind of feel...
Whenever I read the book before going to bed, I think of these fictional people, who are fighting and toiling away their lives for some schmuck among schmucks for schmuck and skub.
Every small guardsman is wasted away as firewood in a broken wasteful fireoven that has nothing in it to bake.
No lasagna, no pizza, no fish and chips, no cake or even not a damn chicken.
Only rot, that should have been thrown out since a long time, but the people can't just smell it from all the rot in their lives and throw themselves in empty glory and waste their youth and vigor on things, that are past their expiration date, which was at least 10.000 years ago.
Oh, and they also desire fast food and fast drugs filled and stretched to the brim with additives and trans-fat,cutting your life expectancy short by 95% instead of learning to make your very own clean drugs, additive free, safe, tastier food and learn about moderation while enjoying it.
Then they cry why everything is so bad.
Just like my surroundings around me, everyone around me dies of stuff, that doesn't belong to their body.
And they expect me to grief with the dead, who ignored my warnings and didn't heed my words.
Why should I?
I would just waste my time.
I will live miserable and alone?
That' halfway true.
I am always alone, but miserable?
Only by your side will this fruit bear truth, so just ignore me.
Do continue, choke on your empty gods and empty glory, run away from your empty lives as fast as you can, there will be always people, who will cherish it better than you could ever do.
And sometimes, they don't even have to be human to make something out of it.
Enough about rants, does anyone know a Gamestore in Nordrhein Westphalia in Germany?
>>43783597
Because it is not happening to you.
>>43788661
Circumnavigation was a pretty big deal though.
>>43786260
>Wormholes and quantum fuckery are starting to look promising.
Nope. To make use of something like the Alcubierre drive, you'd have to plant a load of negative energy "gates" along your proposed trajectory. If the target is 100 ly away, it will take at least 100 years to set it all up, but in reality building these massice contrptions would take a lot, lot longer. The resources involved are ridiculous. That assumes this process makes sense to begin with - any faster than light travel breaks causality, which is why some scientists believe that quantum effects will "seal off" these FTL mechanisms. This is the Novikov self-consistency principle.
>>43786251
This.
A great thing about the Cain novels, for instance, is that it shows you how life still goes on.
It may be utterly futile in the long run, or maybe not, but in the face of all the galaxy turning on us to take a shot, the human spirit hasn't died yet.
Only been really into it this year, my introduction was Dawn of War.
Got all the HH novels, spent far too long on 1d4chan and even bought some boxes of plastic crack (blood angels, grey knights, chaos spess mahreens, even a dreadnaught) as my gf was into painting zombicide minis and it looked relaxing.
>>43784645
And if we were able to travel near the speed of light. What will stop some small space dust particles a couple cm big making holes in the ship.
Even against the odds I really hope that humanity or it's descendants will be able to conquer the galaxy.
But when that time comes we won't be humans as we know it today.
>>43790537
13 breeding pairs shouldn't be anywhere near minimum viable population for people though?
>>43790588
Dog, your analogy made little sense
>tfw the based Space Chinkies Tau are winning
>>43792680
Actually it's ok.
Let's make the math. A normal human couple usually has 1 baby "per litter". Now, this is under modern standards. Under modern standards the parents would resort to contraceptives and wait until their first child was older or until they had enough resources to bring another one in.
But we are talking about 13 individuals stripped away of such worries and such technology. 13 individuals whose only concern is hunting and farming and watching the grass grow, there isn't much concern and since there is no economy, no difficulties in bringing up a child.
In this case, children are also an advantage, because the more individuals, the easier it is to hunt and manage and protect the tribe, even if you do have to wait for the kids to grow (still, they help around other chores). And since we are talking about educated and trained humans in this scenario, they'd know this, and would be more than willing to fuck, one because it's their main mission, second, it's the best way to pass the time besides.
So, worst case scenario, we got 1 child per every 2 years from each pair. We are not gonna factor in death of one of the pairs or anything, because the males are most likely to die, and in this case the lone female will turn to another male (motherfucker will have endless threesomes, who knew).
So 13 breeding pairs produces 13 children in 2 years. Population is now of 39 individuals (13 men, 13 women, 13 children). In 4 years, it will be of 52, in 6 years, it will be of 65, in 8, 78, in a decade, where the first generations are fully integrated into the tribe, it will be of 91 individuals.
Then a couple of years later that number starts going up exponentially as the first generations now are able to reproduce too.
>>43790588
My negro. In fact, I do. Playmore Fantasy in Kleve. If you are looking to play: Spielegilde Alveran in Goch. Where are u from?
< Ganz da in der Nähe
>>43793117
Of course you have some factors like, ratio of male to female children, deaths, illnesses, stillbirths, twins, early pregnancies, etc. Let's not factor these into the math, because assuming we (Earth) genetically engineered or picked the best human (stock) for repopulation, we would pick those with the more chances of producing healthy humans. I wouldn't even rule out the possibility of those females having undergone some sort of treatment to make them become fertile again faster, or bear more than I child per pregancy.
Anyway, In three decades you might end up with something between 300-500 individuals, if everything goes right.
Of course, we might triple the odds and send into space as many as 52 breeding pairs per capsule.
>>43793146
However the problem with sending that many people per "Ark" is: are are literally shooting humans into space with no guarantee they are ever gonna wake up from stasis again, or with the remote possibility that their Ark could malfunction, have then wake up only to die of starvation in space, or crash land into a hostile planet where most of them will be eaten by space dinosaurs or whatever.
Who the fuck will sign up for that? At one point we would have to conscript people, kidnap viable candidates, or start sending the Chinese to space (political correctness aside, do we seriously want that to happen?)
Of course, if we are talking about genetically engineered humans, made stronger and more resilient, made ultra intelligent and more durable, raised their whole life for that sole purpose alone (carrying on our "gene-seed" so humanity doesn't die with earth), then that completely kills the problem.
>>43784664
>>43784794
Magnus did everything wrong though. Fuck, I was so fucking pissed when he broke the Emperor's webway shit and then just buggered off. He should've at least tried to explain why he fucking did it.
>>43790505
good, they smell.
>>43793139Bielefeld :^(
When Magnus is talking about Fenrisian Wolves not actually being wolves what is he on about? Are they Space Wolves who have gone full Wulfen?Sorry if it's answered in the book. I am a retard
>>43793326
No wolves on fenris comes from the fact that original settlers spliced their DNA to survive the harsh conditions.
The fenrisian "wolves" we know are descendants of heavily mutated humans.
That's why they look so weird, have almost human faces on some arts (because artists sometimes respect the lore better than authors) and that ADB makes one of his character in Talon of Horus say something along the line of "A olf? You mean Canis lupus from Terra of a member of Russ's legion?". He does not consider the fenrisians wolves as such, being humans normally.
>>43793460
A wolf?*
Or a member*
>>43793460
So if the fenrisian "wolves" are results of dna splicing gone wrong... and the whole human population of fenris has this gene...
Does that tecnically means that a Wulfen is the space marine equivalent of a fenrisian wolf?
>>43783597
Nigga it ain't a fuckin blanket, it ain't comfy, quit being a faggot
>>43793491
I guess so.
I'm no SW expert, but I THINK that those who really turn into Wulfen and are lost can turn into wolves given enough time.
>>43783597
when alien monstrosities, deamons, sorcerers, super soldiers and communist mecha weebs show up ww2 GIs with laser rifles can still win, and I find that really comfy
the Imperial guard is just the comfiest, just remember to praise the emperor and pass the ammunition
>>43793300
Zu weit, man. Aber schau auf - FB vielleicht findest du was.
Anyway, BTT.
>>43791145
>quantum fuckery
>science
Pick one.
Quantum is a self-fellating theory as relevant to physics as beat poetry. It unapologetically contradicts itself, then channels Pee Wee Herman. "I meant to do that!"
If we explore space, we'll do it using tech discovered and developed the old-fashioned way: kismet. Accident has done more for the accretion of human knowledge than all the navel-gazing in history.
Also, get offa my lawn.
>>43794342
I fuckin love the death korps of krieg.
I like to imagine that the galaxys at peace, but the kriegers still die in droves from doing mundane tasks like taking the garbage out, and then another one steps in immediately after.
Or a commisar coaches a local kids football team and hes just screaming at them waving his pistol about.
>>43793247
Such a small sample would be prone to birth defects in a few generations. Inbreeding is a thing. You need hundreds of people to be able to bypass it.
>>43793247
I want to be bio mechanically augmented, robot legs, robot arms, robot face, pretty much just put my brain into a robot.
If we do this with lots of people we could send them to space.
So many Imperiumfags... Where are all my Necronbros at?
>>43798072
In their crypts.
With their mommies.
>>43798072
Would be great if they made books focused on the perspective of a cron.
They've done it for a tau,eldar and ork so I dont see why cron pespective book isnt possible.
>>43798238
A book from an ork perspective?
Whats it called?
>>43798238
That would be pretty hilarious
>>43784832
Where is mah alpharius and omegon?
>in b4 which one isn't
>>43798276
I dont remember but there are a couple. Theres one short story that featured Snikrot which was essentially batman:arkham asylum- the book where he snuk around an underground hive as he was hunting/being hunted by some Catachans. It was fairly short but he managed to get some Catachan scalps before he fought Straken to a stalemate and had to pull out.
>>43798458
Sounds pretty cool man ill check it out
>>43786251
Pic Related
>>43798072
Necrons are the ultimate masters of comfy.
Chillin' for sixty million years, honestly could go either way on the whole conquer all life or go back to bed.
You ever wonder what the first awakening message sent out to the sleeping tomb worlds was?
>Real Necron hours, who THE FUCK up?
>>43800190
TANKRED ENDURES!
>>43798276
Deff Skwadron.
Dat iz all.
>>43798401
Uhh... the only twins there?
>>43798458
There was one from an aspiring big mek making a stompa, nice short story showing that the meks actually have all the information as to how to create stuff like functioning nuclear reactors and some freaky tractor-beam gauntlets, referring to it by its proper terms, but not knowing what they actually mean. Good insight into what actually goes on in the head of a weirdboy-the WAAAAGH puts the knowledge there, the mek uses it but doesnt understand it.
>not just reading the source material GW ripped off
Because everything occurs on such a grand scale, you can self insert without feeling the doom and gloom in the setting. The actions of a single inhabitant of the galaxy affect next to nothing, except for particularly outstanding individuals.
>>43789000
Guardians of the forest?
Blackhearts?
WHFB after the Storm of Chaos so if you are not familiar with that lore it can confuse you. Also if you like The End Times it's basically uncanon.
>>43790537
What's the last 10 persons doing?
>>43801254
>not having already immersed yourself in so many things that you're constantly smiling as you read through the 40k fluff and spot the various references
>>43801532
This honestly
also reading 40k stuff always makes me feel good in a bit of a nihilistic sense.
>Even if everything seems meaningless here and now: at least I'm not stuck as an average human in 41st Millennium.
