>ridiculous amounts of belts and buckles everywhere
Why is this a thing? This is not okay
>This is not okay
Tumblr pls go
>>43714543
It's a thing because people have shitty taste.
This isn't wow. Weapons and equipment doesn't stick to you on your own
>>43714543
Imagine you belonged to a culture where the normal way of acquiring gear and equipment was to pull them off the corpses of the slain.
What is the easiest way to deal with people being different sizes? Obviously, you want easily adjustable gear and clothing - and the best way to make important things adjustable is with straps and bands, instead of resewing it for each wearer (like a Japanese kimono). So, the straps - should they be simple doubled loops, like are on your bag? Well, actually, depending on the material, if you have hard-used leather, a buckle connecting to a strap would be both the most replaceable and the most easily adjusted. So, if you think about it, all those belts mean is that you expect your killer to take your jacket. After all, that's how you got it.
>>43714543
>>ridiculous amounts of belts and buckles everywhere
Why do people complain about this thing? How the fuck it this any different then any other type of fantasy clothing?
>>43715474
Saying "This ridiculous bit of fashion looks like that ridiculous bit of fashion" is not an effective defense of it.
>>43715414
The pic in OP is wearing assless, crotchless chaps. There is no way to adjust that.
The belts she's wearing seem to be holding then up by friction relying on her having exaggerated hips, but a slim waist, or else they'd just fall off.
The only practical belt is the one for her sword but she's got no belt loops on her assless crotchless chaps to provide retention so drawing it will be a damn near impossible.
>>43715915
But that's my point - the useless bits aren't weapons or gear, they're trophies. That sword? She's never drawn that thing, but if you ask her about it in a bar, she can recite the last seven owners and their grisly fates.
Also, all chaps are assless and crotchless - they're to prevent chafing, not to wear for modesty's sake. What she has on are closer to garter belts to hold up her leggings, with the leggings being custom-made for her. The parts on her calves follow this doctrine, but not on her thighs. With those reinforced knees, she expects a lot of action, I'd say.
>>43715414
I actually like this explanation
>>43716217
Thank you.
![Lulu[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/hrI9Q4H.png "Lulu[1].png")
>>43714543
>>ridiculous amounts of belts
>laughinglulu.jpg
>>43714543
It could always be worse.
>>43716461
>what an average high-level RPG player character would look like if you actually drew all the loot they've accumulated
>>43714543
>This is not okay
Why not?
>>43716510
He's obviously exploiting the equipment rules there, Tactics A2 doesn't let you have that many "trinket" type items equipped at once.
>>43715620
saying "this purposely ridiculous thing shouldn't be so ridiculous" is pretty equally ineffective
tl;dr: skub
>>43716701
Hey now, you've simply attempted to turn his line of logic into an entirely different subject altogether. We weren't discussing the artist's intent to draw an incredibly ridiculous outfit. Rather, we've been analyzing the outfit itself. It was never a question about creative reason. Functionally, you'd be grasping at straws trying to explain why anyone would willingly wear that outfit outside of trying to achieve a certain "look."
>>43716591
I've long wanted to run a tabletop campaign in "Ivalice", but the more I think about it the more I realise it's basically Eberron but with less dragon-prophecy and more stupid Laws.
>>43717475
they're trying to achieve a certain look
like fashion needs a reason
maybe you're trying to do something reasonable like that, but the OP's only guidance was "this is not okay"
so the thread's about skub
>>43717491
It would only take a little refluffing of races and you'd be done, really.
And I mean hell, D&D 4e was basically FF Tactics: Tabletop Edition anyway.
>>43714543
>not wanting to wear an outfit made entirely of belts
>not wanting an armor bonus from all the belts
>>43715414
...And this is why my character wears custom-made armor. It only fits him or another dwarf as big as him. You don't need adjustibility when only one person is going to be wearing it.
>>43714543
The belts and buckles are the least of the problems with that picture.
>>43717532
Hey man, I get what you're saying. I do respect the artist's right to follow through with any design of their choosing, and I respect your opinion on the outfit. After all, what's fantasy without a hefty bit of imagination?
That said, I personally feel a certain line has been crossed in this picture. Between the insane amount of straps, the odd heel design, and all that kibble decorating the outfit, I just can't say I'm able to like it. Just because a design is based in fantasy doesn't mean we have to overlook the appeal of functionality.
>>43714543
I count two belts in that picture and they're both holding something up. Nothing ridiculous here.
>>43717754
oh no yeah that pic sucks
my only rule is that the outfit should fit the character. practical outfits are for practical people, dumbass outfits are for dumbasses
swap the two and you have a good gag, at least
MORE BELTS
MORE GLORIOUS POUCHES
>>43717794
Good man. I'm all for dumbass designs here and there, as they can be plenty fun, but when you clearly want some added functionality in your outfit, let's lean towards simple and/or practical.
That said, it's all about the wizard hats.
>>43717954
and of course there's the "over the top" phenomenon, where once you make something ridiculous enough it becomes fun and more forgivable
example: >>43714543
is covered in dumb belts, the artist has the gall to arrange them like they want to pretend it's not stupid, it smells of cowardice
>>43716373
has so many fucking belts it's just funny, they're displayed as honestly as possible, and it's clear this is not meant to fake practical. also, if rumors are to be believed, nomura made a lot of silly designs around that time to troll the artists and his bosses, so that's funny to consider too
>>43716461
This picture always bothered me because Luso's design is a serious outlier compared to almost everyone else in the game.
>>43714543
Buttons get ripped off easier than buckles, and zippers weren't invented yet.
Between >>43715414 and that, you have a pretty solid reason for buckles being the main type of fastening. Alternatively you have rope notches and shit but that would be for nicer but not fancy clothes.
Also, Fashion. Do I have to pull out pictures of the retarded shit people ACTUALLY used to wear?
Eat shit, Yankee Doodle, you suck Fops Cocks.
>>43718222
Yeah, everyone else has clothing style consistent enough that it must just be how they dress in Ivalice, but Luso looked like someone trying too hard to emulate that style or something.
>>43718357
Look at his little hat. LOOK AT HIS LITTLE HAT, UPON HIS GIANT HAIR.
Know that you will never, ever, have 1/10th the swag necessary to pull that off.
>>43718382
>the tights up to the knee
>the waistcoat
>the fucking ridiculous hair/hat combination
>the corsage the size of his fucking face
>the face that is obviously saying LADIES~
This man has swag for centuries.
>>43718357
>used to
>>43718357
>The macaronis were precursor to the dandies, who far from their present connotation of effeminacy came as a more masculine reaction to the excesses of the macaroni
Holy shit. And people complain about modern men being overly feminine.
Pic related: Rugged masculinity.
>>43718518
so manly he ran out of fucks to give once he'd done his makeup
>>43718426
http://onthisdayinfashion.com/?p=9039
When Men Wore High Heels. From Louis the XIV to Robert Downey Jr.
These bitches ain't even near my level.
>>43717884
Pouches?
>>43718778
>Robert Downey Jr.
Manlets aren't really people.
>>43718864
needs a conveniently placed rock so theres no need to draw the feet
>>43718986
Hey, that's not fair. He cut the bottom of panels at about the calf of characters easily as often as he stuck rocks or shrubs in the way.
>>43717644
>Armor Bonus for belts
Only when attacked by Bernie Sanders.
>>43718211
Nomura made Lulu specifically to fuck with the character modelers.
>>43719466
I don't get it
>>43720172
I've been assuming it was some sort of joke about belt sanders but I'm probably wrong
>>43720165
And then she only appears in like one FMV.
Belt and pouches are extremely important for adventures, how else will you have quick acess to weapons, potions, wands, magic doodads and so on. That said, OPs picture is shit indeed
>>43714543
God forbid someone have a different taste than you
>>43720567
God forbid someone state an opinion.
>>43714543
Why
>>43718357
>Do I have to pull out pictures of the retarded shit people ACTUALLY used to wear?
Yes, yes you do. Nobody will believe you otherwise.
Seriously, most of the portraits are the height of taste and class compared to some of the ridiculous bullshit people have come up with.
I can't even top Macaroni off the top of my head, but I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN WORSE!
>>43718864
Lol it's Cable.
>>43714543
The belts help focusing your innate arcane energies.
>>43714543
>Why is this a thing?
Because verisimilitude is anathema to fantasy fags.
>>43719466
From Bernie Sanders book, specifically one of the incidents where he describes the madman he used to be in his wild youth. He stabbed a friend with a knife but miraculously hit his belt buckle ad the knife broke.
You'd think that he'd be happy to call it an exaggeration when he was called out on it but, no. He's arguing that it's actually true... along with the time he tried to hit his mother with a hammer.
Guessing that's what he was getting at. Belt Mail would make you immune to Bernie Sanders Rage!
>>43720245
Did you say Sanders?
>>43714543
The only wayward belts there are the ones that keep her weird pseudo-pants from falling down, aside from that every one is attached to a piece of gear or holding a piece of clothing closed.
You really could have picked a better example.
>>43714543
why are you surprised that most magic casters are drawn autistic AF
>>43719466
>Bernie Sanders
>Bernie Sanders
You mean Ben Carson? Because Bernie's only defining feature is being an old white socialist.
>>43714543
>ridiculous amounts of belts and buckles everywher
>Why is this a thing?
Because it's "totally wykked kewl."
BLOODPOUCH!
And the legend of the lost anatomy lesson.
Ho, Lee, Fuck...
>>43724138
It also ensure that the enemy has to spend 25 minutes unclasping your pants. At which point he decides that it's not worth the wait and simply kills you.
>>43718864
>>43727159
He may be a shitty artist, but apparently he's a really really nice guy in person. A /co/mrade went to a con to call him out on his bullshit, but Liefield was so nice with everyone that he couldn't do it; anon left the con with a drawing of some pouchy guy.
>>43727057
Confirmed for not Feeling the Bern.
