Mantic General
KoW General
New Stuff Edition
Latest Rules: https://d.maxfile.ro/sawjxaourj.pdf
Core Lists: https://d.maxfile.ro/cxozpswony.pdf
https://d.maxfile.ro/kkqpoqjqhm.pdf
https://d.maxfile.ro/zmbvtxoygg.pdf
Additional Lists: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XgQY5vVHs_V19N_2lsrpk59SIF9hi6_KDBqkmyitRro/edit#gid=644257362
Faction Rundown: http://pastebin.com/4usF1pLr
Twilight Kin list: http://www.manticgames.com/SiteData/Root/File/KINGS%20OF%20WAR/twilightkin-v004.pdf
Ratkin list: http://www.manticgames.com/SiteData/Root/File/KINGS%20OF%20WAR/ratkin.pdf
The Herd List: http://www.manticgames.com/SiteData/Root/File/KINGS%20OF%20WAR/theherd-004.pdf
/tg/ Made Homebrew Content: http://pastebin.com/GxR1nDSE
Mediafire archive: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/meedbza42sp4m/Kings_of_War
You can use your WHFB minis (Or any 28mm fantasy/historical minis on appropriate bases) to play the game
Some links to manufacturers you can use to pimp your army: http://pastebin.com/3NKuGUmh
>>43545905
Looking for Undead specific advice.
By the time I reach anything, half the game is over.
After some play I found shambling is a bitch for actually closing in on anything. Surge is only good if you're a few inches away, but too expensive to surge everything every turn against gunlines and such. Non-shamblers mixed with shamblers was just a mess.
Zombies I found were a bit squishy for tanking despite the higher nerve, and even the the higher attack dice they get, the 5+ is shit anyway. Seemed better spent on skeletons trading offense for defense.
Ghouls seems worthless outside of hordes due to nerve, and seem to invalidate zombies. The ghouls trade everything for offense, the skeletons for defense, and the zombies sit in-between.
Thinking I need only one surge per 1200 pts or so with one healer because at least one tanking horde dies before lifeleech, and there were fewer payoffs for surge than every 1-per-500 pt hero having surge.
>>43546287
Are you also buffing with Bane Chant? Our local meta is still learning the game, but i see 1 caster per 2 units that need shambling.
>>43547130
Fuck. /tg/ is fast tonight
Anyone come up with any decent Varangur lists? I've not played yet so no idea what I'm doing.
I am still trying to figure out what to proxy all these fucking Age of Sigmar minis as.
I heard something about an army of spooky pumpkin monsters, but I can't find any information about it, so I was wondering if /kowg/ could point me in the right direction.
I'm fairly sure they're called "nightstalkers" or something like that.
>>43550072
Ogres and/or Basilean Elohi.
new book out yet?
>>43551528
>Please note this is a preorder, Unchartered Empires will be automatically added to your account on 23rd November 2015.
i have to write myself a note on my lists:
"This unit is expendable if you are accomplishing the larger goal."
REPEAT FOR ALL UNITS
>>43552394
>TFW even your heroes and champions are expendable
It still hurts every time. It's a big shift in battle philosophy for me after playing games where the troops are used to cover the heroes until the heroes can start plowing through ranks.
Man, either /tg/ is fast tonight or KoWg is slow.
Anybody have tested/tried/true lists they want to share? Any army. The only lists I've seen are "I'm completely new how is this list"
>>43554475
I've been seeing a good amount of success with this list. I have only played a good handful of games with friends, however.
Krudger on Slasher: Ensorcelled Armor; Winged Slasher 320
Flagger: Healing Charm 80
Godspeaker: Bane Chant (2); Heal (2) 100
Ax: Brew of Courage 220
Trolls* 190
Gore Riders 185
Gore Riders 185
Ax 125
Ax 125
Morax 140
Morax 140
Giant 190
2,000 points
>>43546287
>By the time I reach anything, half the game is over.
Could you clarify what you mean by this? Do you mean that it is turn 3 or 4, or that you are already losing by this time?
Anyway, Wraiths, ghouls, werewolves, revenant cavalry, soul reaver cavalry and mounted heroes should provide ample speed wholly apart from surge.
>Surge is only good if you're a few inches away, but too expensive to surge everything every turn against gunlines and such
Surge isn't really for pushing the whole army forward. It is for putting key units in positions to pull nasty tricks like flank charges. But if you do need to move quick you can chain surge, get multiple heroes to surge the same unit.
>Zombies I found were a bit squishy for tanking despite the higher nerve
Mathematically zombies have very similar toughness to Revenants with shields at the same cost, and then zombies don't mind Crushing Strength as much. Take them in a horde and give them a dog, they'll do just fine as a roadblock. Not impenetrable by any means, but solid. Plus you get to roll lots of dice.
>Ghouls seems worthless outside of hordes due to nerve, and seem to invalidate zombies
Ghouls are completely different from your other footsloggers because they are so fragile, because they don't have shambling and because they are the cheapest troop you can get. This actually makes them really good bait/chaff/screen units. Heck, you can pick a slow hammer like your wights or mummies and deploy the ghouls behind them. Your opponent puts a slightly faster unit opposite your hammer intending to get the charge, but then your ghouls move at the double in front and surprise your opponent who now has to decide whether to kill the ghouls and take the charge from your hammer or wait and let your line advance while he tries to shoot the screen away.
The spells you take depends on the rest of your list. Undead are surprisingly versatile with what they can do.
>>43552775
You should play Ogres and take Grokagamok, anon.
And post results.
I like that the zombie trolls looks better than the regular trolls.
>Not posting the actual full rulebook PDF
Also does anyone have the UE PDF that they would be willing to share? I wanted to ally with Varangur to get a Jabberwock (Galrauch) on the table.
>>43559441
There minis are becoming consistently nicer now. Out of the new batch the only bad one was the Elf dragon rider. The Warpath Kickstarter only had that Dwarf hero as the black sheep, with the rest actually looking pretty good.
>>43559916
The WP dorf does come with a cool dog.
