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This is how I paladin.
This is how I paladin
>>43532639
This is how I paladin
Oh wait
>>43532639
If Touch Me was a paladin, he probably wouldn't be a part of the most evil guild in Yggdrasil.
I mean shit, Demiurge is literally the king of hell. Solution is a fucking Shoggoth.
Does this count as Paladin? Cause if it does then this is how I wish to Paladin.
>>43532722
I like that very simple design for the mace.
Paladin thread then, eh?
This is how I paladin.
>>43533336
Both novels made fun of romanticizing chivalry, clearly stating that Quixote was out of his mind to be acting so foolish. At the end he comes to his senses in absolute horror and sees that he did no real good in the world and that his time as a knight was ill-spent, finally renouncing his ways and promising to lead a sensible life.
Yet despite Cervantes clearly meaning for it to be taken in jest, every movie and TV series portrays this buffoon as some kind of tragic figure worthy of admiration for his outlandish, impractical, and childish misconceptions for which he brought much harm and no good to everyone around him. Even worse, he's often taken as some kind of heroic figure to live up to "despite all odds" or something equally as saccharine. How unfortunate that so many mistake a sick madman for the paragon of virtue.
>>43533154
MY MAKAI KNIGGA! Best way to Paladin right the fuck there.
this is how i paladin
>>43533585
Just wish I'd known sooner man. Been about a month since I picked up pic related on a whim and I'm just starting Ryuga.
Hell, I'm almost tempted to teach myself to gm for the sake of getting my friends into a Makai Knight and Priest campaign.
This is how I wanna Paladin, if I make one.
>>43533114
The guild was evil because it was a meme among the players that non-humanoid races are evil monsters.
AoG just happened to have two players who took this and ran with it, one who was an edgelord supreme and the other a neckbeard into horror and shit.
Touch was LG all the way, and argued with the edgier players alot
>>43533561
While I share your assessment that it is incredibly ironic that Quioxte, who was always meant to display how stupid chivalric literature was and to confront Spain's own obsession with romanticism (this is a country that still has honor killings), has become the poster child for romantic chivalry I feel this is because Cervantes ultimately failed at what he set out to do
Because don Quixote is a comedy, we see ultimately little real lasting harm comes of his antics, and for the most part the one who gets the worst of it is Quixote himself. Meanwhile, Quixote in his madness, is shown to be a far more moral and honest character than the 'normal' people he interacts with. He is ultimately the architect of several bad situations when he lets his ego get the better of him and does in fact Rob a few innocent people, but most of the other people he meets all try to take advantage of him, making him out to be more victem than villain. In the end Cervantes portrayel of Chivalry is more whistful than negative.
>>43533779
>Tahu
>not based Kopaka
>laughing ga-matoran.wallofstories
>>43534287
This is why paladins can be LN in my campaigns. Fuck being lawful stupid. Cold, calculating, rule-enforcing badassery is just BETTER than derping around like a WoW quester.
>>43534823
>implying Kopaka wasn't Good
the guy put his life on the line for the sake of others constantly. He was just chillyha ha
Regardless of how one should Paladin, after playing this I realized it's basically how I've been doing it anyways for the past decade or so.
>>43534927
I get the impression aggressively uncompromising pacifism and friendship is going to be disruptive in the average roleplaying group. How do you do it?
>>43535003
By having them be incidental NPCs or by playing with a group that already had that talk-first mindset to make the role comfortable and wanted.
This how Paladin girls go to the beach.
This is how I paladin.
>>43535150
As it should be. Paladin should recognize no race nor variant animal kingdom.
>>43534206
I remember a screencap that mentioned that irony before, but I never saved it. Do you happen to have it?
>>43535150
Jelly Paladin.
A true hero. Let's ride my brothers.
>>43535150
I don't get it. You play a set of arms and armor so imbued with the ideals of Justice that they can just float there?
>>43532639
This is how I paladin.
>>43534927
True justice is an equal distribution of wealth comrade.
>>43533236
That's a weird way to spell "prostate prodder."
>>43535528
Gelatinous cube, brochacho.
>>43532639
I can't tell if that was a man's armor or a woman's armor at first, so i'ts some pretty sick armor.
>>43535653
What are you talking about, I don't see any gelatinous cube. That armor is clearly just floating in midair.
>>43535690
You have something against clear skins?
>>43535863
Gelatinous cubes are invisible until they move, anon.
>>43534206
There's also the fact that audience for pop entertainment wanted their rose-tinted escapism back then as much as they want it now, so the aesop just got rejected. Humans are masters of ignoring unpleasant arguments.
This is how I paladin.
>>43537707
It annoyes me so much that most of his scenes have been pulled off youtube.
>>43534900
In fact it does. Paladins aren't divine murdermachines bound by strict regulations, they are dudes that are so fucking chivalric and virtuous they get holy bonuses. A paladin need not be stupid but he is courteous, tolerant and unfailingly nice, and of his own volition at that. A paladin is an archetypal Arthurian grail knight.
It's not that surprising that neckbeerds with fragile egos and zero social skill have trouble roleplaying them.
This is how I paladin
This is how I'd like to Paladin, if I ever get the chance to make the character.
>>43533561
Personally I think its entirely fair that by mocking an inherently worthy and noble idea like chivalry he has his work unintentionally become an inspiration to be chivalrous.
>>43534823
You don't have even the slightest clue what lawful good is do you.
Nobody who did would equate it with 'derping around like a WoW quester'.
>>43537836
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/alternate-classes/antipaladin/archetypes/paizo---antipaladin-archetypes/knight-of-the-sepulcher
Ive been wanting to play this since forever. Smite good is not super great in a non-evil party though...
>>43537819
Blade Joker? but why does it have Chalice's belt?
>>43537893
Blade Joker King form, also iirc all the jokers use the same belt just different colours for the person(Albino used a white version of Chalice's belt in the movie)
>>43537719
You do not have to be 'nice' to be a virtuous and good person who defends the weak. Plenty of the grail knights were outright dicks even if they never did anything evil.
>>43537881
Dude, Skull Knight was good.
Terrifying visage, sure. Looks like an evil bastard, certainly. But good, through and through.
That badass murdered demons left right and center.
>>43533114
>I mean shit, Demiurge is literally the king of hell. Solution is a fucking Shoggoth.
Keep in mind that this is the Japanese we're talking about, the people who turned the KING OF HELL into a cute, cuddly waifu who just wants to help you grow potatoes.
I'm pretty sure Japanese skellingtons are less dangerous than Japanese moths.
This is how I Paladin
>>43538071
But aside from the being evil, doesnt that archetype resemble playing a skelleknight most mechanic-wise?
>>43538097
>I'm pretty sure Japanese skellingtons are less dangerous than Japanese moths.
Most things are.
>So, that's how it is...
>>43534823
>lawful stupid
Kek
I'm gonna guess you've only had Paladins who spare the child raping bandits because they begged for mercy. If you see a thief stealing bread, buy it for him, tell him to be honest and that good things will come. If a farmer had his cattle stolen, bring the thief to justice, he doesn't need to be harmed for a crime like that. However, people who are evil through and through should be put down on the spot.
>>43538182
Some of these people think that executing evildoers is what is lawful stupid behaviour. Which is pretty dumb.
>>43538152
It doesn't really fit the spirit of the character, but yes, totally, that fits with being a skeleknight.
Here's a question; Can a Paladin keep paladining after becoming undead?
Books give evil alignments for undead, but we all know those aren't hard rules to be rigidly adhered to. Intelligent undead can still choose how they behave after all.
>>43538242
The reason all undead are evil is because they live off of negative energy, a purely evil substance.
>>43538242
A persons morals aren't dictated by whether their heart beats or not. I don't see why we couldn't have a 400 year old lawful good skeledin.
>>43538261
He couldn't use healing Magic to patch himself up, no. But intelligent undead are still capable of making decisions for themselves.
>>43537918
Plenty of the knights or the *Round Table* were cunts. Bors, Percival and Galahad, the three knights who managed to find the Grail, were not. Depending on the version of the story, one or two of them are even permitted to die prematurely and follow the Grail to heaven after their quest was done. That's God himself telling them they did not have to prove their virtue further. Most saints did not get that courtesy, let alone random knights.
>>43538293
Skeletal Champion? They raise like ghosts. Could a paladin die, then just get back up to carry on his holy quest?
>>43538115
Cloud a cute!
>>43538309
No its like demons, undead are MADE of evil. Granted some can overcome that evil nature through great effort, but all undead regardless of actions will always ping on a detect evil.
>>43538115
EU cloud a shit, they made him a brooding emo to match the fantards fanfics.
They is how I paladin.
>>43538228
It should be a last resort. You are trying to redeem their souls, and to respect law and authority.
If they attack you, though, you gut them. If there's no hope of justice being done any other way, you gut them. It's a matter of morality versus expediency; paladins aren't omnipotent any more that they are omniscient, and they are allowed to think little of those who lead lives of evil and only showed repentance at the edge of a sword.
>>43538261
Wouldn't a virtuous revenant of some sort be exempt from those limitations? If you couldn't rest in peace because the triumph of evil was just so fucking revolting, I doubt you'd come back as a zombie with unholy damage AoE.
>>43538447
True, there are incredibly rare examples of those that survived death without negative energy, however those are less undead and more Risen, think Jesus. There is no rot or other symptoms that undead usually have.
>>43538514
I think you meant >>>/cm/
>>43535097
How can a being so pure be so lewd?
>>43538733
Different people have different definitions of purity.
This is how I paladin.It makes sense in context.
>>43535638
What, you do good for the fame and your own selfish boredom?
>Inb4 fedoras talking about altruistic good or someshit
>>43532639
This is how I paladin.
>>43533561
>every amerilarder movie and TV series portrays
ftfy.
This is how I Paladin
>>43539740
My nigga, too many people limit their own potential by convincing themselves that they weren't born with the right genetics to succeed at something.
This is how I blackguard.
>>43537719
You don't need to be murderous zealot machine.
Lawful Good characters shouldn't be softies. Thus if the bad guy is talking shit, you simply punch him.
Is pic related a good Paladin material?
>>43532639
This is how I paladin.
>>43538171
Yes!
>>43533779
>>43534287
Funnest paladin coming through.
Ancient Oath up in this bitch!
>>43542795
In every way.
Depending on how you play it. You can choose an ideal rather than a patron, in which case you are literally fueled by "justice". You can focus on the " sent by nature itself " and recent-ish meta-series connections where Riders themselves are a timeless cosmic force that appear when evil is born. You can go full "emissary of hell" and engage evil as part of your quest for vengeance.
>>43538159
>I'm pretty sure Japanese skellingtons are less dangerous than Japanese moths.
I wouldn't doubt that
>>43539878
Elephants break their bonds and go on murderous rampages often enough
>>43543171
IIRC Lewa was actually pretty serious business in the very first few comics.
Not as chilly as Kopaka (he he) but enough to where he actually decided to bugger off when Gali asked if he wanted any help.
On that note, did anyone actually really even LIKE Gali that much in those early comics? She was just as Lawful Good as the rest of them
This is how I paladin.
>>43543332
They were all rather dickish to each other in the beginning; it was part of their team building exercise. Only Gali and Onua really gave a shit about being nice
>>43543367
Is this the paladin of freedom?
>>43543422
He is Neutral-Law.
He is also named Terminator.
>>43543403
Pohatu was pretty chill to everyone; he was actually the first one Kopaka met.
The only ones who were really acting all that dickish were Kopaka with his loner bullshit and Tahu declaring himself leader all the time.
Though again I got the impression even the friendly ones gave Gali the cold shoulder most of the time
This is how I Paladin.
>>43532639
This is how I Paladin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e9bZD86s3g
>>43538097
>>43538159
>>43543262
>not posting most dangerous Japanese moth
>>43543873
>implying that's the most dangerious japanese moth
>>43533779
>>43534287
>>43543171
Shit, man, Bionicles? That brings me back.
>>43543186
Lolth: Blah, blah, blah...what can you even do to me?
KR: This! (jumps really darn high) RIDER KIIIIICK!!!
>>43543483
>hey guise I am a girl!
>Gali we are all asexual, shut the hell up.
>>43537707
I don't see any method at all, sir.
>>43545056
> Skeleton "Whoa watch out we got a badass over here"
>>43543681
Wouldn't that just be LG fighter then? Still a fantastic choice.
Pic related is how I paladin.
Step aside peasants
>>43539202
Saitama is actually fairly altruistic when all is said and done. He frequently takes the fall for others and gives people reasons to hate him so that others can shine for actually putting in the effort he never needs to.
I prefer my Paladin characters to be Inquisitor types. They are not as prudish as typical Paladins particularly where it counts (do whatever to take out the evil for the greater good.) They also think from that greater good perspective that's far above the usual "what would this God that I follow want me to do?" These guys often pull the greatest sacrifice in a setting willing to take whatever to take out evil, whether it be self-sacrifice in a suicidal way, or to become the evil itself so the greater evil disappears. If you want some retarded shit as demonstrated by Don Quixote and >>43533561
post you can be a generic Paladin. But if you want to be a guy who actually gets shit done and is willing to go to any lengths to get shit done you are welcome in the Inquisition.
>>43538733
>>43535097
Too lewd to be Paladin. Looks like some gay Japanese shit, and the Japanese always take things out of context (ex. look at this overthetop party ornament! It's supposedly a sword. Or look at this guy who barely has planetbusting capabilities! He's a god (implying a god-like character can only be a half-assed planetbuster.))
This is how I paladin.
>>43538097
Why is the Demon King a woman?
>>43534114
In fact, Touch's Me's NPC is far and away the most good aligned NPC in the tomb.
The guy takes time out of his day to help old ladies across the street, for god's sake.
And actually tries to pretend to people he's not very strong.
>>43546346
>Typical normie paladins are prudes
>My paladins are far more effective
>My paladins have a greater perspective and a clear view of the situation
>My paladins make the greatest sacrifices
>Generic paladins are retarded
>Did you know that anime has a lot of unrealistic character designs?
>People who can only barely destroy a planet are not worthy of my interest
You seem to take yourself very very seriously, but your paladins sound incredibly boring and po-faced, do they tend to have much of a character arc where they start out feeling and thinking a certain way, and then due to external events change their mindset and approach to life?
>>43534823
But anon, Lawful Neutral IS the Lawful Stupid alignment.
>>43532639
Superior paladin coming through.
>>43546945
If she's so superior, then why are the British Celts still ruled by their Anglo-Norman overlords to this very day?
>>43546346
>It's supposedly a sword.
The concept of idiotic overdesigned and oversized weapons was created in the West. Japan just liked it and thus took it.
>(implying a god-like character can only be a half-assed planetbuster.)
Most Gods in mythology don't even come close to planet-buster tier, though.
>>43535557
Weakling...
>>43546982
Because injustice exists in the world, anon.
Superior paladins are not superior because they always win, they are superior because they do not allow themselves to fail.
>>43547043
...I can accept that. Nice one, anon.
This is how I Oathbreaker Paladin.
>>43546346
>lol good is retarded and having no morals lets you GET SHIT DONE™
I haven't been playing tabletop games very long compared to most of you, but one attitude I've already learned to roll my eyes at is the attitude that being a good person or having values is somehow inimical to GET SHIT DONE™.
For the most part all inquisitors too wrapped up in their self-righteous belief they're the true agents of justice to feel beholden to anything but their drive to produce "results" get done is kill a lot of people before being killed themselves.
>>43545838
Arthas was right!
There was no cure for Stratholme and thus a purge was needed.
Jaina and Uther ran away, leaving him with hard decisions because muh honor and muh morality I ain't gonna do it.
Yeah, won't lift a finger on killing off people that were probably already infected and would sooner or later suffer a fate worse than simply dying.
>>43546346
I prefer mine to be normally by the book dudes, but don't fear dirtying their hands when the situation requires it.
They will regret and feel sorry for what they did even if it was for the greater good and such, as well seek a form to repay somehow for what they did.
>>43546437
She Demon Queen and one hell of a smarty and moeblob.
>>43547476
Well, yeah Arthas was right (road to hell is paved with etc) but the point was that he was young, inexperienced and emotional. Jaina and Uther weren't ready to kill a whole city at the drop of a hat without first having seen proof of the infected grain and Arthas didn't really try to inform them of the options, he just assumed they'd follow him (because it was so obvious from his perspective), saw himself as the boss and then got angry and started using threats when they didn't immediately obey him. This sort of thing happens a lot in real life, especially when someone sees themself in a position of dominance and authority and is convinced that their actions are necessary whilst underlings are piping up and questioning their status.
>>43546703
>do they tend to have much of a character arc where they start out feeling and thinking a certain way, and then due to external events change their mindset and approach to life?
Haven't dealt with Inquisitor types much have you? I would recommend reading Eisenhorn from the Warhammer 40k Black Library or playing the video game Deus Ex.
>The concept of idiotic overdesigned and oversized weapons was created in the West. Japan just liked it and thus took it.
But Japan really took that shit to the next level. Yeah there's some dumb western fantasy shit, but then there's Monster Hunter.
>>43547293
I prefer to prioritize getting shit done to morals, that's all I am saying buddy.
>>43547476
I like those type either. Though I believe Arthas was wrong cuz everything from Stratholme till the end of the human campaign everything Arthas did from killing the citizens of Strat to picking up Frosty and killing Malganis was all part of the Lich King's plan. If he wouldn't have purged Strat like a retard he wouldn't have fallen to LK's plan and Lordaeron would still have actual humans there. Jaina and Uther left cuz they realized Arthas went full retard (which again was exactly part of LK's plan. Nerzhul was pretty fucking clever before post-WoW lore got its hands on him.)
>>43547906
All I'm saying is that usually results in a lot of unnecessary death a more moral character would have avoided while still saving the world.
40k's inquisition isn't exactly a great role model for efficiency or results.
>>43547952
40k Inquisition usually isn't a good example and honestly what you're saying sounds like a typical one dimensional 40k Inquisitor. Again would recommend Eisenhorn as Abnett takes a very different approach from a typical EXTERMINATUS EVERYTHING Inquisitior, and Deus Ex due to how cleverly it deals with the "free mason/people in power"-esque aspect of inquisitorial stuff.
>>43546346
Are you one of those people who thinks the Paladin is not allowed to kick down the door and execute a corrupt official or evil noble on the spot without a trial while he pleads for his life while still being fully lawful and good?
And are you kidding? Paladins are perfectly willing to die to kill evil.
I think you are just being childish and attacking a stereotype you invented in your head because you think truly good people cannot get stuff done or destroy evil. Which is moronic.
This is how I Paladin.
>>43548332
I think you're the one who's being childish here taking things I say out of proportion. And
>Are you one of those people who thinks the Paladin is not allowed to kick down the door and execute a corrupt official or evil noble on the spot without a trial while he pleads for his life while still being fully lawful and good?
quote proves that. As I said before, all I am saying is that a priority on getting shit done is generally better than a priority on morals/faith that Paladins have.
I want to Paladin like this.
>>43532639
This is how I Paladin.
>>43547106
Also she was dead in battle by that point...to her own daughter no less.
>>43546346
>>43547906
You sound like an edge lord and the characters you're describing are definitely inquisitors. Which are not paladins by any measure.
>>43546703
>>43547906
Gonna agree with these guys.
Boring characters who fail at LG. They're LN at best. Leaning more LE by a lot of your descriptions.
>>43549607
>You sound like an edge lord and the characters you're describing are definitely inquisitors. Which are not paladins by any measure.
Inquisitors are an offshoot of Paladins.
>>43549607
How the fuck are they boring? No they don't stick to one alignment unlike regular Paladins get that shtick out of here. As I said, I prefer prioritizing getting shit done to morals (and you agreed with me while shitting on me?) You guys are accusing me of pulling the "all Paladins are one dimensional beta as fuck super nice guys" while pulling the same exact shit on the Inquisitor concept while I am trying to do that narrow minded shit on neither of them.
One thing I liked about Pillars of Eternity was its interesting interpretation on paladins, who get more powerful if they act in a way that's expected of their order.
There's the Kind Wayfarers, who are basically a charitable organisation of paladins who scale with benevolence and altruism.
The Goldpact Knights, Paladins for Hire, who scale with rationality and professionalism,
The Shields of Saint Seretta, originated as bodyguards for an ambassador and scale with diplomacy.
The order I find interesting are the Bleak Walkers, who might be considered a bit edgy but I find them interesting regardless. Basically they do the Genghis Khan thing and be as merciless as possible so they can force a surrender wherever they go.
I forget the last one, but If I recall correctly they gain their powers from being affable and lively, as they originated as bodyguards of a merchant family.
>>43550375
Just read up a little and I'll make some corrections. It's the Shields of St Elgca, and the last order are the Darcozzi Paladins, who scale with affability and cleverness, being bodyguards of the vast Darcozzi family, and have to be clever due to the Rennaisance-Italian inter-family politicking that goes on.
>>43532639
This is how I LawfulEvil
>>43545200
Fuck off with your reddit-tier meme shit
>>43550731
>>43550731
>dreadisanasshole.png
>>43550134
>Being nice = being beta
Now I know you're an edgelord man
>>43551222
Now I know you're either b8ing or stupid because I said it in that post that I am not trying to say anything like that at all.
>>43547621
You know, I've actually got a very different image of what Blackguards are like from how that cap describes them.
I've always imagined a Blackguard as being a paladin who's been traumatized, either through torture or just seeing too much shit, and lost that understanding of where the line is drawn.
He's still, at his core, a good guy; he wants to do good, he wants to still be the paladin, he still has at least basic morals. The problem is that he's completely lost his ability to see when enough is way too far. His intentions are good, but his methods are too extreme, or too brutal, or uses dark powers that ultimately cause more harm than good.
In this scenario, a Blackguard wouldn't kill a child, because he still wants to be a good guy, and good guys don't kill babies. Instead he'd go and kill anyone and everyone involved in whatever was making sure said child was detrimental to human advancement, whether it actually made a difference or not.
Let me tell you what my friend, an ex-marine named Lucas who had lost a friend and the use of his right leg in Afghan before he was 25, taught me.
The world is a dark place, full of evil that eats away at good and inocent alike.
But everyone carries a small spark of compassion, of goodness. Like a flame in the midst of the darkest cave, a defiant symbol that burns away the shadows for a brief time, and then sputters out.
A Paladin is a Lantern.
He brings with him a tool to guide those who find themselves lost, a hand to offer to the wary and confused. His concern is not with the evils of the world, or what those who would snuff out light think, it is only with those he must shepard. He must cradle and care for the flames of others, reigniting their faith in good should it waver or fail. He must bear the darkness at his back so that others may enjoy a brief respite from the shadows, to give them a moment of the light that they so desperately need. Where others may stumble, you must provide them illumination, hope and faith in something, anything, that may kindle what little flame they have left.
You may find yourself growing weary from the task, your flame weak from the darkness and cruelty, your bones tired and your eyes strained. Even then, you must light the way.
You may find yourself with a flame so brilliant it sunders your lantern to dust, burning away the shadows in a brief but defiant gesture of hope.
Despite all of this, you must be good, you must be lawful.
Be good when the law fails you, and be lawful when you understand not what good is.
If there is no light, you must make one.
If there is light, you must protect it.
The world is a dark place.
You must look to the shadows, look at the cruelty, at all the horrible crimes and terrible people in it
and you must say to yourself
"This will not do. There can be a better world."
Defy the darkness, bring the light.
Give the world good, and see it burn away the wicked.
>>43551153
The law is unbiased citizen. Good or evil, he will uphold the laws he believes in. Justice will be served.
>>43550704
Id think he is lawful neutral for the most part.
>>43532639Man I don't even play tabletop gamesWhat am I doing on this board
"To defend: this is The Pact, but when life is scorned and damage done, The Pact is to AVENGE!"
That's how I Paladin.
>>43550731
>>43550704
>>43555188
Judge Dredd is not evil.
That said, he is not good.
In Judge Dredd's world, morlaity has failed the world. Politicons failed their people, civics failed their practioners, and above all, Man failed himself. Beyond the walls of Megacity 1, there are the cursed lands. Across the oceans, there are a few other cultures that survived, but only by following the same absolute that Dredd holds himself to.
The Law.
Behind everything, beyond good and evil, there is Law.
Morality, ethics, and even civilities are nebulous. They come and go, they change and morph, but not the Law. The Law remains. It is order, it is absolute, it is all that people can rely on in a world that is equal parts fuck up and denial. Dredd does not enjoy his job, but he doesn't hate it. He understands that what he does is the true and physical form of opression. He cannot bend to be forgiving in a world where letting one criminal go could cost them THOUSANDS more innocent lives, people who obeyed the law, the last stable pillar of society they can hope to rely on. So, he holds himself to the standard he expects everyone else to follow: The Law, no excuses.
Sure, people poke fun at 'I am the Law', but what people seem to misunderstand is that he is NOT saying he is the final word, some arbiter of what he considers good or revenge. He is claiming to be the physical representation of the Law in a world that needs it, and that nobody, NOBODY, is above it. He has executed crime lords and Judges, protected innocents from arsonists and drug cartels from vigilantes.
He is the pinnacle of Lawful Neutral.
There is no good, no evil.
There is only the Law.
And the world needs the Law.
>>43547028
Except he isn't. He understood that the benevolence his father aimed for could never be attained by staying a warmongering leader.
But you can bet whatever you want that if the enemy was a cruel tyrant, he wouldn't have surrendered
>>43550134
>I prefer prioritizing getting shit done to morals
You keep saying that, but I don't see how having morals would limit you from doing good things.
There are a lot of things that morals stop you from doing, however if you intend to do good things then being polite to other people, protecting innocents and charitably giving to worthy causes won't exactly prevent you from doing good things.
Except obviously if you're acting without logic, if you don't use logic and reasoning then your intentions are no guarantee of what your actions will accomplish.
This is how I paladin. (and with pants)
>>43532639
What did Perfect Warrior even do? stat boost/damage immunity?
I paladin the only correct way to paladin.
>>43556326
With a crew of other people constantly working to keep you semi-functional?
>>43548440
If that was true you would not have shit all over Paladins in your post and implied they cannot get shit done.
I am not taking anything out of proportion, people like you almost universally have the misconception that Paladins are somehow not allowed to kill people who need killing to justify your supposed greater effectiveness.
>>43546346
I feel like that picture would put me to the pyre for being a witch lesbian. worry.jpg
>>43546982
>>43548897
>paladin
>stabbed to death by a daughter conceived with an unnatural magic cock in adultery with her half-sister
>gets out-argued so hard by a two ancient 'party hard' chads that she bangs a japanese teenager to try and experience the girlhood she never had
>so thirsty only a threesome can fulfill her needs
Please.
>>43556350
Sound's like tabletop gaming. Wakka Wakka.
>>43548533
Ains is a lot of things, LG is not one of them, his actions waver between helping others and serving his own goals, drawing him towards neutrality on the evil to good scale. He does however, in a position of authority keep absolute order, and even when dealing with other kingdoms, even if out of convenience he observes local laws and culture. Drawing him towards Lawful on the Law to chaos axis
Ains is Lawful Neutral
>>43558025
This.
Papa Bones is indeed Lawful Neutral.
>>43535150
Truly the most valiant of us all.
>>43558074
>alcohol
>sex
>pagan prayers
>paladins
anon...
>>43558136
It all depends what religion you belong to.
Alcohol is part of many religious rituals and few religions actually ban it.
Vow of celibacy is hardly universal, some fantasy religions encourage sex rather than discourage.
Prayers could all be prayers to his own god written in every language he has learned.
>>43543910
>Mothman has endured
How do I make a paladin as resilient as a terminator?
Throw in some berserker levels of some sort?
A paladin just isn't paladining hard enough if they don't shrug off a shotgun blast then chase a carriage down on foot.
This is how I paladin.
>>43558160
Now I'm reminded of that Paladin idea where one serves a fertility goddess...
>>43558221
Simple:
He can't be bargained with. He can't be reasoned with. He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are... brought to justice.
>>43558249
I played a paladin of a bardic deity who tried to spread happiness and pleasure wherever he went. Which included putting on free music shows, magic shows, and sleeping with whoever looked most sad and lonely in the bar.
He also had the hedonist flaw where if he didn't make money or entertain himself every day he got a slight debuff the next morning, so essentially he was either adventuring or getting laid every day of the campaign to keep from getting bored.
>>43558221
Said paladin was a dragonborn in full plate with a kite shield, I pulled a 'shall not pass' on a door during a house fight against six enemies with polearms for the entire battle, took over twice my total hitpoints in damage over the whole fight, constantly getting healed and healing myself, defensive fighting.
Could only be hit by the enemy rolling nat 20s but there were so many of them they got enough to keep laying on the hurt. And if you're so hard to hit that the enemy can only possibly damage you by rolling an automatic success I think that's pretty damn terminator.
>>43558296
That's a fun way to play Paladin.
Have fun, adventures, and women. Living the life and serve simultaneously your deity this way.
>>43556335
That makes no fucking sense at all.
What an awful story.
>>43558225
So you pulled a Dark Souls and recovered from undeath? I need to play a Paladin like that some time.
This is how I Bard/Paladin.
>>43558315
Yeah, drinking, singing, dancing, women,and men
I was a little worried at first but the party said they actually found it a refreshing change of pace from the usual paladin archetype to play with a paladin who was a hedonistic shameless flirt while still being completely hardcore about protecting the innocent, and didn't have a stick up his ass.Except for when he, well, you know.
>>43558592
>King David
>Good
>>43558625
I didn't want to be the fedora but yeah. David was a paladin only in the strictest since of being a divine champion of a god.
And Divine champion is a class, so, i'd say he's Ranger/Bard/Divine Champion
>>43558619
Refreshing indeed.
>>43547481
So, is this pasta the source of all those "lawful good means I do what I want" characters that have been popping up for the last few years, or is this just their mindset put into words? How hard is it to understand, if you are lawful you follow the law, if you're good you perform objectionably good deeds. Why is it so hard to accept that if you're willing to break the law to do good then you're Chaotic Good? This argument is like the agnostic vs agnostic atheist argument, you're only making yourself look like a fool by arguing against preset definitions.
Would Batman be a good example?
>>43558926
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
>>43559097
Yes, of the type of paladin who's completely about following a code. His code is that he cannot take life because it's not his job to pass judgement, that's for the courts, he just helps bring them in.
He almost broke it once when he fought a villain whose gimmick was child slavery. Beat the shit out of him and told him right to his face he was very close to making an exception for the 'no kills' rule.
>>43559136
It wasn't sarcasm. Swearing here on me mum.
Also remembered that episode of the 1st season of TAS.
I wished he at least beat the guy to a bloody pulp.
>>43559097
>>43559136
> The denizens of Underdark are a superstitious and cowardly lot.
>>43532639
This is how I paladin
This is how I Paladin
>>43556841
Never said paladins couldn't be subby sluts anon.
Reason I play a female paladin in wow.
>>43559225
So you were so good your order send you somewhere else because you made other Paladins look bad?
>>43558025
>>43558051
I would say he's LE moving towards LN. His undead nature makes him evil.
>>43558225
She a cute. She from Bravely Default? That looks like Final Fantasy art.
>>43559778
Nah. More like his undead nature makes him have his emotions dumbed down almost to the point of feeling any emotions.
>>43559778
>>43559941
*NOT feeling any emotions.
>>43559069
Surely being lawful isn't necessarily decided by whether you follow the judicial system of the land, which is made (and amended) by mortals after all. My own view on the subject is that being lawful involves consistent behaviour, discipline mercy justice judgement etc.
But yeah, obviously someone who follows no consistent pattern of behaviour/judgement but still insists that they're lawful is annoying.
>>43543367
>guns from Terminator 1
This is how I paladin
>>43559225
More like
This is how I arbites
>>43556335
>The old, obnoxious drunkard was the good guy all along!
2/10
>>43532639
Well when I dare to Paladin, I usually look to one guy in particular, well one guy as well as his retainers.
To me these are iconic paladins.
This is how I elven queen.
>>43546346
As someone who played an Inquisitor paladin. I have to say, your post makes me cringe, please go back to reddit.
>>43546437
Because she was born with the royal mark that qualifies you for kingship in demon society/religion.
As for why she is the Demon KING as opposed to the Demon QUEEN, that's because kings have authority that Queens do not (such as the ability to declare war) so while usually a male title it is nevertheless that which describes the power and scope of her position.
>>43537819
Funny. This is how I paladin.
>>43561043
>As for why she is the Demon KING as opposed to the Demon QUEEN, that's because kings have authority that Queens do not
that's only if a king is present, if there is a Queen and only a Queen (as in she is single) then her power is absolute. Do you have ANY idea how a monarch works?
and even if a king is present technically, that lesser authority the queen carries is not a legal/political demarcation, but just how most family hierarchies worked back then.
>>43561145
I'm pretty sure he was describing how the laws function in-universe anon.
Most people are aware of how monarchy's function in real-life, but that doesn't mean the same rules apply in fiction.
>>43535557
Put down the blade of justice to smite evil in the urban environment.
A hero he is.
>>43533561
I gotta read this book
>>43538240
A good question is what defines Evil and what define Good as these are all subjective, and a person with more power than the other can force their way on an individual.
Whats more is what defines Justice is it a sense of duty or simply doing what you believe or a group of people believe is right.
Tl:dr There is no good, there is no evil, there is no such thing as justice.
>>43546437
Because Ma-Oh is a gender neutral term in Japanese, but in Japanese culture, a woman can not be a ruler, and so the -Oh suffix would be applied to them.
>>43558025
Who is this "Ains" you speak of? >>43548533
posted Momon, Adamantite among Adamantites, the greatest hero of the land.
This is how I Paladin.
>>43561926
So edgy,
Now run along and, go cut yourself or whatever it is you edgelords do.
The grown-ups are talking.
>>43559069
>Why is it so hard to accept that if you're willing to break the law to do good then you're Chaotic Good?
Because the law is not inherently good, and there is no reason to follow laws that are designed to promote evil or hardship.
Ignoring laws designed to support evil does not make you "chaotic". Your argument is floated only on your own personal opinion of what you think "lawful" behavior is.
>>43560941
You know that's who this is..
>>43546945
right?
>>43562030
>You know that's who this is..
>>43546945
>right?
that's a chick.
yes I know the whole story, I just reject the whole gender-swap thing out-of-hand due to it creating more than a few plot-holes.
Like Mordred to name one.
> A Paladian got bitchs wanting the d in his party.
> He tells them no, but they keep coming onto him.
How does a Paladin properly solve this?
>>43562156
Calmly refuse, go one with day?
It's not that hard to turn down someone's advances, and if they do not respect your refusal, then you know it's someone you probably shouldn't be traveling with anyway.
>>43562156
With the virtue of patience and if she really continues being such a wanton slut then with words of chastisement for her attempts at inappropriate conduct with what she knows is a man of god
>>43562093
>Mordred
>plothole
Someone doesn't know shit about the FSN Universe.
>>43562093
>yes I know the whole story, I just reject the whole gender-swap thing out-of-hand due to it creating more than a few plot-holes.
Prototype Saber is best.
>>43562284
>Someone doesn't know shit about the FSN Universe.
don't care, it's still a stupid idea. As well as being really obvious that it was only done because the writer & artist have a bad case of 'blue balls'.
>>43562093
>>43562284
You realise Mordred has an explanation in-verse?
>>43558090
My god...
An acid-proof horse!
On topic, this is, more or less, how I paladin classic. I tend a bit more towards green-knight NG type paladins now (Blame 5e for making that an option, I guess) but the classics are classics for a reason.
>>43543910
>Best SMT
>>43552512
There is only one way to play, Anon
>>43562334
Then just say "I don't like it".
Right now, you are throwing your opinion around like fact, in the face of being shown you are outright wrong on some things.
>>43562156
By.... giving them the...... D? Where has it ever said Paladins have to be celibate nuns?
>>43562356
>avoid cheating
>avoid torture
>the previous three start with "never"
>>43562625
There are some times when unpleasant things have to be made in to follow the orders of your liege.
The Code of chivalry is made with that in mind.
Also, Saracens. It's not torture if it's a Saracen.
>>43562711
That doesn't sound very Paladin at all.
Then again, I never got why they didn't have a Knight class. Paladins don't seem much like Knights in the fine grain.
>>43558136
>>43558160
not to mention it said girls he bedded in his youth, which implies that it was before he took on the holy path
>>43539202
You misunderstand Saitama. He did it for fun and because people needed help, not because he wanted fame or fortune, and he literally only became a registered hero so people wouldn't think he was a villain. Even in his time as a registered hero, some of his biggest wins have gone to others like Boros and Sea King, who went to the S-Class and Mumen Rider respectively.
If that's not altruism, I don't know what is.
>>43545262
No, he's still got power granted to him by the divine in a very real and literal fashion.
This is how I Paladin
>>43545262
Funny. Pic related. How I paladin.
>>43563192
>Researches his enemies' history, policies, and wrongdoing
>Confirms that they're corrupt before taking overt action
>Refuses to kill anyone other than his targets, even if they attempt to kill him or prevent him from reaching his target
>Rescued his childhood friend from losing her chastity and prevented her father from committing suicide
>Willing to die for his beliefs.
10/10 would fight evil alongside gladly.
>>43562007
Dude, someone represents their opinion on context and the "is-ought" question, an integral question that defines the reasons for morality and law, and all you have to offer for your response is "buzzword buzzword you're a baby"? What the fuck, mate.
I don't agree with that anon's statement, nor do I agree with Mr. A's objectivist leans. That doesn't mean I should stand by and watch your half-step from ad hominem bullshit. Have you ever bothered once in your life to make an effort on looking at and discussing perspectives outside your own without resorting to being a meming fuck? Here, let me fucking help you:
>>43561926
While power can be used to force the hands of others and establish rule, does that imply what's right? After all, winning a war surely cannot prove that peace is desirable for mankind. Continuing on this thought, should one obey law from fear of punishment, or should they understand what good it does? I believe that if a rule has no benefit for society, it is a rule that can only end up surviving on fear. I cannot disagree that there are many interpretations of good and evil, but perhaps you can gain your own definitions from such subjects.
Was that so hard, you sperg? 10/10, I'm mad.
>>43563966
>should one obey law from fear of punishment, or should they understand what good it does?
I'm not sure what the point of this question is, it's like asking "Should one defend the innocent and treat others as one would want to be treated, or should one hold down ones daughter and ritualistically cut off her clitoris because that's just the way things are?"
>>43563336
>"Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon."
>"None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with ME!"
>"Men get arrested. Dogs get put down."
>"Your turn doctor! Tell me! What do you see?!"
>"Once a man has seen society's black underbelly, he can never turn his back on it. Never pretend, like you do, that it doesn't exist."
You, anon.
I like you.
Care to crusade with me?
>>43558634
>I didn't want to be the fedora
Yet you came out as complete fedora. How do you even do that?
>>43559097
How would a Batman-like Paladin work?
I'd imagine such a dude/lass to be the worshipper of a god that would utilize holy terror on evil people and have his Paladins to use terror tactics to exploit their primal fears.
>>43564403
Batman understands that innocent people fear bad people, so he takes the next logical step and makes a world where bad people fear good people.
I'd suggest being a Paladin of a god of fear, with a focus on inspiring terror and nightmarish revulsion in those who would even consider using evil against innocent people.
>>43556613
>>43556636
Nah no hurt for you guys. You guys are having fun.
>>43556526
>I am not taking anything out of proportion, people like you almost universally have the misconception that Paladins are somehow not allowed to kill people who need killing to justify your supposed greater effectiveness.
Wow
>>43560991
WOW
Holy shit you guys are pathetic. Every retard who seriously replied to my post with "wahh wahh you think LG Pallies aren't even allowed to kill I bet you're such an edgelord" shows how fucking butthurt you LG Pally fags get over the tiniest shit. Like hell, the idea of having an overthetop post is somehow completely lost to you guys. Seriously, one of you fuck faces said I go back to Reddit; if you guys are easily butthurt by such tiny shit and make it something it's not intended to be, get the fuck off 4chan.
>>43564564
>My post was meant to be over the top
>I wasn't being serious
>Honest guiz
>You all are just getting butthurt when I didn't actually mean it
>>43564668
You would have a point if I magically changed my point. My point since yesterday has remained the same: I prefer a priority towards getting shit done than a priority towards morals/faith, you guys overblow the shit out of my post as "I bet you think that LG Pallies aren't even allowed to kick down the door you edgelord!"
This is how I reasonable first boss who can either be fought or talked to and reasoned with, and even be convinced to join the party or help them in some other way.
>>43564448
> Be Paladin of the Fear God.
> Hear Duergars are terrorizing a village and capturing people into slavery.
> Go there and meet them.
> The leader blabbers about how surface dwellers are all weak and pathetic and yadda yadda.
> Had enough of his bullshit.
> Minutes later he and his bunch are on the floor alabaster white with foam coming from their mouths after showing them what true terror looks like.
> Free the villagers and then suddenly disappear when they are not looking since there is this Beholder that is lurking in a city not that far from here...
>>43564723Got milk?
Sorry, I couldn't hold myself.
>>43564783
Of course!
Holstauri are wonderful dairy farmers! Cows trust them like one of their own, and they're strong and docile enough to take to the life easily!
>>43534900
This motivational looks like its been done by some 14 years old edgy emo kid
>>43564331
Like, picture a child being told to not pull at people's hair.
On one hand, rules can be taught with fear (if you do that again I'm going to punish you) and it's effective in making them not do so as to avoid said punishment. That's one way to get the point across.
On the other hand, you could attempt to make them understand why pulling hair is bad. This could be done by pulling their hair, sure, but for the sake of the argument we are focusing on other ways to teach empathy. This empathy allows the child to know why not to do it: that is a person, they don't want pain so I won't hurt them.
Now apply that to laws. Like you mentioned, some traditional ways of life are display a distinct lack of empathy. Perhaps originating from misguided "fact", but obeyed out of fear as of today. Such problems are what will cause a person to form opinions, and eventually a moral code.
This is how I Paladin.
Former criminal turned friendly paladin, with a secret list of wrongs that he works to right while adventuring.
>>43564817
Hmmmm. Beefy.
>>43564983
I actually liked that show.
This is how I paladin.
>>43564710
>If you want some retarded shit... you can be a generic Paladin
>But if you want to be a guy who actually gets shit done...you are welcome in the Inquisition.
Gee, I wonder where anyone could have possibly gotten the idea that you were acting derisively towards LG paladins.
I mean, it's not like you directly insulted them and heavily implied that Inquisitors were the only ones who actually did anything.
>>43564403
Batman isn't a paladin.
His powers aren't granted by a deity or even the concept of one, but by his own wealth and personal philosophy.
He's a Lawful-Rich Monk.
>>43564783
Oh GOD I want this.
>Be Paladin of Fear
>Find criminal underground, been selling magic drugs to kids
>Lol, not anymore
>Enter room from rafters
"Your time for judgement is now, criminals."
>Criminal boss looks like it's a joke
"We ain't scared of you."
>That's my cue.
>Cast Nightlight
>Dude-Bro god makes Daylight absorb light.
>iamthenight.jpeg
>They're freaking, sneaky sneaky around them and grapple boss
>Mark of Justice
>He sees me as a ten foot tall demon with flaming horns.
>Oh, NOW he wants to talk.
>Take him to roof, drop him from top, listen to him scream
>He's fine though. Tied rope to his ankle before hand.
>He's still seeing demons though. Good for him.
>Go back inside, smash enemies, watch them piss themselves.
>God, I love my job.
>Leave warehouse, let town-guards find them.
>Sneak into Tavern just before dawn.
>Buy a drink.
>Gonna pray to Dude-bro God tonight. Ask him who to spook tomorrow night.
Oh, this would be wonderful.
>>43565247
I'd say that mentally he'd be the perfect Paladin, but I'd add to this multiclassing with Monk (HH combat), and Thief (sneaking and striking from the shadows and using gizmos).
Hell, he'd multiclass as much as he'd want because he's the goddamn Batman.
>>43565416
Delicious.
>>43565416
> Be Paladin of Fear
> Go into town since there is a festival the baron has ordered since a son was born into his family
> Go through the alleyway because shortcut
> Suddenly a bunch of thieves come out of hiding
> Tell me that I'm the only one who'd doublecross their plans of kidnapping the baron's child and I must die
> howinteresting.jpg
> Sometime later I'm already raising toasts for the baron's fortune
> The thieves now avoid shadows or anything that isn't illuminated
>>43565205
Damn. What a Sikh bunch of weapons.
>>43566118
>Be paladin of Fear
>Fighting cult of dead god
>Like, the god is dead
>And somehow alive?
>Cult's are weird
>Anyways, barge into room where sacrifice is being held
>Tell me I'm too late
>I'm about to witness an unknowable horror
>Color me intrigued
>God shows up, others are scared, cultists laughing and crying and pissing themselves in ecstasy
>Over something with tentacles and like a thousand eyes with crab legs and bat wings
>How quaint
>Wait for head cultist to look at me
>Channel God.
>Never thought I'd see something with a thousand eyes scream and cry
>That's a lot of water, let me tell ya
>Anyways, god's gone, cultists too terrified to look at me
>Apparently nobody looks for eldritch lore anymore
>Last cult leader who tried to enter town after that got BTFO'd after he said his god was terrifying
>Didn't even have to lay on hands
>Was a good day.
>>43532639
This is how I paladin
>>43566255
good paladin
>>43566233
> Be Paladin of Fear
> Been hearing some strange rumors that there is something scary in the sewers.
> Decide to go down and see if the rumors were true.
> After some time (and having to deal with the stench and cursing the lack of maintenance) I find the source of the rumors.
> Drow Demonologist was doing some bizarre experiments and was scaring away people with his pet fiend.
> Slay fiend with ease, and then go and teach the Drow a lesson.
> Suddenly he tries to cast fear related spells.
> isthisguyserious?.jpg
> Channel God.
> Go back to town and have a hot bath and clean my stuff.
> Drow was later found by sewer workers with his eyes rolled up and muttering something about unspeakable things crawling out of a helmet.
>>43566255
The Best
>>43566434
>Be Paladin of Fear
>Fighting Devil from one of the bazillion hells
>Like seriously, who the fuck is the developer down there, they just keep getting business
>Devil takes out most of my party, out of lay on hands, but they're still alive for now
>Devil starts going on and on and on about how my demise is imminent
>That word you keep using
>I do not think it means what you think it means.
>He tries to impose his will into my head
>I see my failure. Centuries pass in the blink of an eye, millions are dead, innocents laying in their won blood as monstrous abominations patrol the land and consume flesh and souls and-
>Give this guy some credit, a lesser man would crumble to this.
>Cept I have the God of Fear behind me
>The main tenet of his domain is to spread it, never succumb to it.
>"Only through our own nightmares do we realize what we care for most passionately about"
>Okay, more demon bats eating children in this hallucination, guy's had his shot. My turn.
>Smite evil
>A tendril from my god extends through my form, like a living shadow
>Fuck is this cool
>Touches Devil for like one second and suddenly he's screaming and tearing his own horns off
>Weaksauce, much?
>Oh, now he crawling back into his own summoning circle
>Honestly, it's like decent villains can't even handle their own schtick anymore.
>Off to spook some more.
>>43566255
>>43566475
wat dat
>>43566758
Go play Undertale.
No, really. GOTY.
>>43566758
Some bitch from Undertale.
>>43566783
more like flavor of the month
This is how I Paladin
>>43566810several months so far
What kind of sword is that in the OP?
>>43567659
It's Touch Me's sword.
Presumably it was fairly good, since that was the weapon he was using when he minmaxed the fuck out of his build and the GMs had to nerf him since he was steamrolling the entire rest of the game and people were threatening to quit since he was to OP.
>>43563336
The dichotomy between Rorshach and Ozymandias really interesting.
Though, to be frank, I've seen way more people base characters off of Rorshach. I've never understood the idea that Ozymandias is somehow evil/villainous. He's the antagonist of the story, in a literary sense, but his goals are noble and he does more to benefit humanity than Rorshach could ever hope.
>>43564723
>>43564817
I dunno, man, they can be mighty pushy sometimes.
>>43559784
Nah, Final Fantasy Tactics A2.
>>43567981
He fits quite snugly into the well-meaning antagonist niche.
It also works well to show the differences between different tiers of heroes.
Rorshach is a street level hero. He beats up thugs, drug dealers, and hookers, but doesn't have any powers to cover an entire city to any practical degree or deal with threats that could level a building with their bare hands. On the other hand, he really has no enemies other than street thugs and his own mental instability. Maybe he had one or two serious villains, but they were probably at the level that batman villains would make fun of them for being weak and ineffectual.
Ozymandias is a superhero. He has powers that can run circles around normal people, can predict the trajectory of bullets, and would be a serious threat to some of the more serious villains that would likely show up in a superhero universe. He has to look at things on a bigger scale than just a handful of thugs on the street. He looks down on the rest of humanity as merely normal people who need guidance, and he has a plan to give it to them. A small handful of people dying is absolutely nothing in comparison to the good of the planet as a whole. On a street level, his actions are horrendous, but when you zoom out, you don't see the pieces, you see the chessboard.
Rorshach's viewpoint in the story was never wrong, it was just narrow. For all his talk of seeing the dark side of society and being willing to stand up for his ideals, he willfully blinded himself to the greater picture just so that he could maintain his black and white viewpoint. Within the confines of a street level hero, he's a paragon of justice and conviction, which is why many people want to emulate him in characters. After all, many tabletop games, including D&D, stay firmly in what could be considered street level even well into the mid-levels.
>>43538879
no, thats how you paramander.
>>43568437
I suppose, but from my point of view Rorshasch is supremely ineffectual character. In fact, he's actively emotionally destructive to everyone who's around him. He doesn't change anything, he doesn't help anymore, he generally just makes things worse.
My main problem isn't people thinking on a smaller scale or being able to see that Veidt was capable of horrible things, it's the number of people that seem to forget that Rorshasch was a terrible person to want to emulate.
>>43559069
A paladin is not bound to flawed law. Elemental Law cannot be found in any book in any plane.
The paladin is a mortal agent of that which is as good as possible for as many as possible; true lawful good strives not towards dogmatic rules but towards the best possible result.
The paladin is beyond the laws of mortals despite their mortality because the paladin is an antibody against corruption, against the sub-optimal, against evil, that operates not among the body of a mortal civilization but among the body of a great multiverse, a living organism greater than the mortal mind can conceive that is at all points plagued eternally by true evil in all of its myriad forms. Be that cruelty, pettiness, destructiveness, or merely petty wastefulness, the paladin must strive against it all.
The paladin must strive to do the perfect thing in every possible situation. This is something the paladin cannot do. They are fallible, mortal. But this does not mean that they cannot try. To say that the paladin is not bound to a strict set of rules that are immutable is not to say that they do not walk a strict path; indeed, the paladin knows there is only ever one perfect solution to each problem that existence is drowning in.
It is simply that dogma is a crutch for the weak-minded.
>>43569083
In RPGs, his philosophy can change things.
That's the basics behind the idea of a BBEG. Someone who the party can beat up to solve at least one major problem, usually multiple ones. One person dies, world saved, credits roll, everyone goes to camp out in the corners of taverns until the next generic threat shows itself.
In the real world however, you can't make a realistic difference running around the streets in a tacky costume punching people. There was a short period of time where people tried, and a few major cities in real life had some costumed vigilantes running around. News wouldn't shut up about it. Then reality set in, some people were hospitalized, and pretty much everyone packed up their yellow-painted kevlar vests and went home.
Rorshach is the guy who didn't pack up and go home, because he still thought that he could accomplish something that way. He might have actually made a major difference in a few people's lives. Maybe with a drug dealer in the hospital with a cracked skull and a broken leg, some kid was able to kick his habit and do better for himself and his family. Maybe the gangbanger who he beat bloody was on his way to mug someone who would have been shot in a robbery-gone wrong. Who knows?
But he didn't make a difference on a macro level. It's like dropping a pebble in the ocean.
Like I said before, that's not really wrong, trying to save the world one bad guy at a time. I can't remember a time I played a paladin who tried to enact sweeping social change to benefit the underprivileged and tackle the root causes that led to people pursuing Evil ambitions. Rorshach is just trying the Smite Evil approach without any divine backing, although his personality and mannerisms leave much to be desired.
>>43565228
*sigh
This is getting tiring and stupid. I wouldn't post in a topic like this if I didn't like Paladins at all (I max PvP ranked my WoW Pally back in the days of Vanilla FFS and was the main guild tank in expansions afterward I love Pallies of all kind). Yeah I was pulling people's legs there, but shit y'all went super butthurt on the whole thing.
This is how I paladin.
>>43569943
>*sigh
Kill yourself knave
>>43559187
Badly?
>>43562334
>As well as being really obvious that it was only done because the writer & artist have a bad case of 'blue balls'.
No, it was done because the Artist convinced the author that the whole thing wouldn't sell as it was originally planned to be and told him to remake the whole thing.
>>43564564
Embarrassing.
>>43566699
> Be Paladin of Fear.
> Be called by a nobleman who has problems.
> Turns out a Beholder is snatching away his servants. He has none anymore and the only people left in his manor are him, his wife, and his son.
> Agree to help him.
> Beholder comes while nighttime.
> Wait for him at the gates.
> The large, fat eyeball with multiple other eyeballs appears.
> Waltzes silently towards the gate.
> Get ready to jump out and spook him into oblivion when something unexpected happens.
> The nobleman's kid jumps out the bush with a small dagger and points it at the Beholder. Says he'll defeat him and get back both his dad's servants and his friend that he took away.
> Kid has some serious balls have to admit it.
> Beholder laughs at him telling him that he's either brave, stupid, or both.
> Eyeball prepares to chomp the kid. Kid still stands here showing off his big balls.
> My turn.
> Quickly and silently appear behind the kid. Beholder notices me and from that moment he hesitates. Realizes who and what I am and turns 180 degrees.
> Kid runs after the eyeball, still doesn't notice me as if I were his shadow.
> Finally found the Beholder's hideout.
> Kid wants to storm the place, but I whack him on the back of his head knocking him out.
> "You have courage child, but you still need the skills to back it up." - I say.
> Storm the hideout.
> Beholder already is showing first signs of fear, but still readies himself for a fight.
> Channel God.
> The next day the servants return to the nobleman along with his kid. The nobleman chastises his firstborn for what he pulled off. The Beholder was found catatonic, with bloodshot eyes, muttering about things from beyond that were clawing after his eyeballs.
>>43568297
I always liked this pic.
>All these Fates
>Not a single George
Shame on you, learn to Paladin.
>>43556269
Exploited a flaw in the system leading the GM to ban his build
This how I pala-
Wait, shit.
This is how I Paladin
>>43533561
>At the end he comes to his senses in absolute horror and sees that he did no real good in the world and that his time as a knight was ill-spent, finally renouncing his ways and promising to lead a sensible life.But he dies.
This is how I Paladin
>>43534206
I think it also had to do that humans are innately moved by impossible dreams. Everyone has ten and, really, while Quixote is a satirical figure his aspirations are pure and moving. He's an idiot and a madman not because his dream is insane but because it's too pure and good for such a horrible world.
Both the hooker and Don Quixote are happier when they reject an unhappy reality for a warmer reality.
![El_Greco_-_Saint_Louis_roi_de_France_et_un_page_02[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BUBzi68.jpg "El Greco - Saint Louis roi de France et un page 02[1]")
Y'all cowards aren't even Saints
>>43538261
And positive energy is purely good, even though it explodes you if you get too much?
And I bet fire is purely chaotic, too.
This is how I paladin.
>>43564783
>>43565416
>>43566118
>>43566434
>>43566699
>>43573463
The Paladins of Fear, known also to some as Dreadknights, are the servants of the god called Noc.
Noc is the god of fear, horrors, nightmares and terror. For some reason however he is different in that despite the elements that would qualify him to be a member of the evil gods such as Bane, he is also a god of justice and tenacity against the nightmares that haunt the mortal realms. Although his tenets are spreading fear, he also adds that only those who do evil are to experience these. The Dreadknights themselves do not succumb to fear. One wonders what their trainings include that they are the stone cold individuals they are.
Noc's Paladins differ from those of other gods in certain aspects. While Paladins are courageous, the Dreadknights literally fear no evil, for they are fear incarnate. No horror, either material or supernatural, cannot break them. Whereas even the most strong-willed adventurers break in fear, the Dreadknight casually walks onwards. While normal Paladins resolve certain situations with diplomacy, the Dreadknight will simply induce pure fear in the hearts of evil creatures. Even if those are demons or eldritch monstrosities, none is beyond Noc's grasp.
The creed of the Dreadknights is that only in through overcoming their fears can they see that for what they truly care. This implies that many of these individuals experienced personal tragedies that prompted them to don their obsidian black armors and regal blue capes and become the ones who strike fear into evil. Despite the aura they radiate, these warriors are as heroic as their counterparts serving other gods, and will stand guard against the evils in mortal hearts and the horrors that would blast a mortal's mind into oblivion and hurl him into the abyss of insanity.
Why are Paladin girls so great?
>>43580391
They just are.
>>43580274
"Fear is a tool. It is the whetstone upon which I sharpen my blade, the hammer with which I hone my steel, the anvil I with which I strengthen my soul. The fear I inflict is upon those that would do harm, the corrupt and petty. A just man has no need to fear, for there is nothing righteous that would do him harm." -Tenet of the Dreadknights
>>43542701
>missing the entire point of the film as morally murky and grey
Blackguards are pure evil, bro.
>>43578403
>While sancho ask him for more adventures
GET FUCKING REKT ADVENTURE FAGS.
ADVENTURE=SHIT.
WORK DAILY AND HARD=MASTER RACE.
>>43561884
Learn spanish, study the period or you won't get 90% of it.
>>43546346
>Inquisition
Good boy!This is how I totally LG guys, I'm a light elemental :^)
![Sisters_of_Battle_11[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jJot8DA.jpg "Sisters of Battle 11[1]")
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