Must the spice really flow?
Yes it must
>>43455424
>Thisismyfetish.webm
>>43455397
Yes, the spice extends life, the spice expands consciousness.
Without Spice there are no navigators. With no navigators there is no interstellar travel or trade. Without trade worlds will die. The spice must flow.
>>43455397
Yes.
>>43455397
Without it, every mentat, navigator, and spice user (which is most of the civilized galaxy) will die, so yes, the spice must flow.
>>43455835
Didn't they have interstellar travel before spice? but the ban on thinking machines destroyed that because they were required?
>>43456114
they have ships that fly really fast.
what they lack is the ability to not fly into-things
this use to be done with robots because super fast reactions and what not,
but then they went full skynet.
now they're banned.
so instead they feed people so much spice that they can see the future,
thus not fly into things by steering before they're in the way.
no spice, no spaceships, no empire.
>>43456255
Actually, they destroyed the machines because they were making everyone fat and destroying human creativity or something.
The Butlarian Jihad was largely a cultural/moral thing.
>>43455397
No, they need just need to make their AIs three-laws safe.
>>43456088
>dunecat
>brown eyes
>>43455424
not like this, not like this
>>43456337
Nature will fuck your shit up
>>43455424
What...what am I seeing here?
>>43456370
Looks like a goddamn Thresher Maw.
>>43456418
Nature, red in tooth and claw.
Also a worm eating another worm.
>>43456423
That's a Bobbit Worm. They're like three feet long.
nah
>>43456287
you're right, I was think of that book his son wrote
http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Butlerian_Jihad
>>43456301
>>43456471
The ocean can go fuck itself.
>>43456471
They average three feet long, they can grow to be like ten feet long.
![Heighliner[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Xdy8ByW.jpg "Heighliner[1].jpg")
>>43456114
Before and during the Butlerian Jihad both the Humans, Omnius, and the Cymeks had something which was passingly referred to a "Stardrive".
I'd assume it was just a vastly inferior FTL technology, since they can still get from system to system within a couple months (depending on distances).
The great shift occurred because manipulations of the original Holtzman equations allowed a ship to travel by collapsing the space between the ship and the object, allowing the ship to technically exist in two places simultaneously.
Ugh. He's the dude's son. How do you grow up with a man, collaborate on freaking novels with him, and STILL miss the point so fucking badly?
One can only hope that he's aware that if it wasn't for his last name he'd be known by 10 people as "That guy who posted the awful Dune fanfic".
>>43456508
God Emperor Neko the Second.
>>43456546
>Mom comes down to basement asks why I wont go outside
>Friends come over ask why I never go hang out with them anymore
>qt calls me tells me I should get over to her place and get that booty
>mfw I wont fall for their shit they just wants 10 foot rape worms to murder me but im too smart
wish it wasnt like this senpai but it is
>>43455397
Nope. After the development of No Ships the spice is unnecessary. Thanks, Ix!
>>43455424
>>43455424
>that little bit of blood at the end
In the first book Paul mentions in his inner monologue that they can make do without the spice but it would mean giving up a lot of the things they take for granted, and the spacing guild that was ultimately calling the shots was too spineless to call his bluff and risk losing their privileged place in society. He doesn't go into detail about what the alternatives to spice would be, unfortunately
>>43455424
>tfw you're on mobile and can't see the cool gif everyone's talking about.
>>43458557
webm, you idiot.
>>43458593
That doesn't help me.
>>43455397
weed bruh
weeeeeeeeeedddddddddd
>>43455424
Every time i see that i have to cross my legs...eeuugh!
>fucking worms man.
>>43455424
L-lewd
>>43455424
*sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp*
>>43456287
SOMEONE KNOWS THIS!
I love you anon.
>>43456255
>so instead they feed people so much spice that they can see the future,
thus not fly into things by steering before they're in the way.
No, navigators bend space.
There is no actual travel with navigators, simply a change in positioning.
>tfw no qt space-arab gf
>>43455397
For the time being? Yes. Leto II had the right idea in seeing it as a crutch that would eventually destroy humanity if we continued using it. His golden Path was the right idea.
>>43456577
he's the george lucas of science fiction novels, raping his father's corpse in a closet somewhere. I mean fuck, in one of his books he has Paul run away to join the circus for no reason, completely out of character.
>>43456287
So it was basically like future SJWs, but with technology instead of patriarchy?
>>43456836
>>43458557
>>43458603
use the Clover app
>>43464477
More like future objectivists because they thought humans were being destroyed by machines via the fact they were making shit easier and less challenging for humans.
>>43458124
this image and that filename combined just made me giggle so fucking hard
The Butlerian Jihad happened because humanity was turning into pic related. When machines did everything for them, humans turned into giant slugs. Butler thought that in a short time we'd become the pets of AI and all freedom would be lost. It wasn't because machines turned against us; we turned against them in order to purify ourselves.
>>43464836
>>43463904Thanks Brian;_;
>>43464836
>Purify ourselves with neo-feudalism
Wasn't Dune's entire point was that their form of government was oppressive in the extreme and filled with Byzantine politics and backstabbing?
Even Paul's daddy kept a vanity garden when he took Dune from the Harkonnens as a "bravura". His house was only the "good one" in relation to the Harkonnens.
I don't think the Butlerian Jihad is supposed to be a good thing given how the Jesuit and Paul's own Jihad is portrayed.
Reading between the lines you see it was done so that religious dogma could have a stranglehold on the future. It's hard to push your concepts of person hood (and by extension messianic person hood) when man humbles himself by creating thinking machines better than himself.
>>43456287
Depends on what canon you believe. By the original notes? Sure. By the actual novels? Butlerian jihad was a bloody, brutal, kinda magical-realmy mess. Like skynet and H.R. Giger and all sorts of fuckery.
>>43455424
why do I have an erection?
WHY DO I HAVE AN ERECTION!?!
>>43467094
GOD, THIS IS NOT HOW I WANTED TO DISCOVER I HAVE THIS FETISH.
That being said, got any more of those vids anon? No reason, just curious
>>43467156
>you know, just for laughs haha
>>43466727
They only had it because the Harkonnens put it there and kept it because it's also a saferoom.
He later used it as a political chip at the party.The story is just Mohammed in space, with some lessons about trying to change the future and shit.
>>43456370
So, Thats what happens you take the bait.
>>43467094
because you're imagining how it would feel on your dick?
>>43464572
There is no iPhone version that lets you see webms.
>>43456517
>The ocean can go fuck itself.
It regularly does.
>>43457903
No-ships still require a navigator/high quality computers if you want to get somewhere safe. And since the computers are still iffy for zealots (and honored matres) navigators and spice are still numero uno.
>>43466727
the point of the Butlerian Jihad was that humans had stopped thinking. Literally anyone with the keys to the machines could have the keys to the minds of humanity. Without AI, you need humans again to plan and organize and think.
>>43471822
use your browser
>>43455424
>>43464609
I don't see objectivists today demanding technology banned because it makes shit too easy. But I do see progressives demanding free speech to be torn down for hurting their feelings and people should stop using facts and logic, because it's problematic.
>>43475951
> facts and logic
>>43475202
>No-ships still require a navigator
Where is this stated in canon?
>>43456574
its quantum mechanics, I aint got to explain shit!
>>43475951
The Butlerians did not advocate for the destruction of all tech, the padishah empire had a lot of cool tech.
>>43475951
>progressives demanding free speech to be torn down for hurting their feelings
Silly burgers. Welcome to Europe and their laws against hate speech.
