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/mlb/ general - tfw no baseball for 2 more days Rfition


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TEX:Cole Hamels needed stitches for cut on chin
STL:Siegrist (mono) due back in STL 'pen Friday
ATL:Tyler Flowers out 4-6 weeks with broken hand
PIT:MLB will wait on punishment for Jung Ho Kang
PHI:Ryan Howard likely to avoid PED suspension
LA:Kershaw (back) set for another 'pen session
SD:Report: Rangers interested in Drew Pomeranz
MIA:Stanton tops Frazier to win Home Run Derby
BOS:Kimbrel out 3-6 weeks after knee surgery
LAA:C.J. Cron (hand) expected to miss 6-8 weeks
CHC:Arrieta might not pitch in the All-Star Game
TB:Kiermaier (hand) begins rehab assignment
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Royals
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Royals
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First for Yankees having homefield advantage
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You can only post ITT if your team carried the ASG
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Thanks for the homefield advantage LMAO
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tbqh britton should've gotten MVP because he had to get out arguably the three top hitters in the NL and he did it effortlessly, he even intentionally allowed a hit and intentionally went slow on goldschmidt's ground ball because he knew he'd have no problem getting the save anyway

>bombston
>knucklememes
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>needing home field advantage to win a World Series

TOP FUCKING KEK
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Who /noASGrepresentatives/ here
What a waste of time
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Mariners
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>>69517447
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Literally 0 ASG count for real since 2010.

Kershaw hasn't started any of them so this one doesn't count either.

Kershaw about to win a second MVP and he still hasn't started the fucking all-star game god damn
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>>69517447
hope you enjoyed your sneak peak of cueto in big games
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>>69517394
Hos didn't deserve the MVP but at least the Ninny League got BTFO AGAIN
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>>69517447
>we didn't want it anyways
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>>69517447
Your Pitcher Cueto is useless against AL hitters.

First proven when Cueto played for the KC Royals in 2015, further proven again when Cueto couldn't do shit against the AL hitters in the 2016 ASG.

Cueto will be absolutely worthless to you in the world series.
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>>69517447
KYS
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APOLOGIZE
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>>69517483
>Cueto is useless against AL hitters
Cueto is also useless in literally any game that means anything
He's a pubstomper IRL
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>>69517483
>Cueto didn't pitch well with the Royals

Wow, thank you based anon, now I know
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lmao @ meme pitchers who rely on ginmicks like quick pitching

lmao @ nl batters
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>>69517521
Cueto did a great start in the 2015 world series, but that was against a ninnyleague team
>>69517529
>Cueto leaves NL to AL, becomes absolute until he gets a good start against the Mest an NL team in the world series
>Cueto goes back to NL and suddenly good again

Hm. Makes you really think
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APOLOGIZE AMERICAN LEAGUE
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>>69517552
None of them niggas played Lmfao,

Oh wait,

I get it,


Jajajajajahajahajhajah
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>>69517507
i'm sorry the eternal 5th placers were shitposting and then got BTFO
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>>69517552
>Terry Collins managing NL
>Doesn't use any Mets

What did he mean by this?
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>>69517547
>Bumgarner has the lowest ERA in the history of the World Series, facing American League teams

Hmm, really makes you think
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>Winning the ASG is like winning the WS to they AL
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How can this sport be so tied to "tradition" and "not wanting to give into new shit" like instant replay, yet be the only sport with 2 different sets of rules for different teams within their league (DH) and make a random collection of a few dozen players in a fun game determine fucking home field advantage in the championship?

Why is this the stupidest fucking sport in existence? jeuss christ baseball
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Who's the most underrated player in baseball and why is it Freddie Freeman?
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>>69517579
And he's still kershit's bitch got 7 months
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>>69517592
That's not Didi
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remember when dookie butts grounded into that DP and prevented the AL from scoring any insurance runs, but then based britton saved his ass with an amazing 9th?

makes you think
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>>69517583
>Losing the ASG is like losing the WS to the NL
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>>69517465
>

HAHAAHAHHAAH
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>>69517447
>>69517475
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>>69517592
>Freddie Freeman
>Not Chip Chipperson
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>>69517579
>Bumgarner has 0 (ZERO) Cy Youngs.

Hmmm, really makes you think.
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>>69517394

>Rfition

A fucking leaf.

Also,

DAVID

O R T I Z
R
T
I
Z
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>>69517579

>Bumgarner is Cueto
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>>69517610
>5th inning
>one out away
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>>69517552
can we please hire a new manager
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>>69517618
No, it really doesn't actually

>>69517626
No, but they are both on the Giants pitching staff and would be pitching in the playoffs, which is my point
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Was it really worth no real baseball for 5 days to learn whether the giants sweep starts in san fran or in texas?
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>>69517609
Wouldn't know what that's like tbqhwy
:^)
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>>69517647

>poster criticizing Cueto's pitching against AL teams
>b-b-but muh Bumgarner

Jints fans everyone
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the memes awaken
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>You may only reply to this post if your team had a reliever walk the bases loaded to add to the excitement

Not so fast, rest of the league. It's as if you guys don't like a suspense in your games.
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Reminder that the Yankees and the Orioles almost blew it for the entire American League
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>>69517653
The only implication that's correct is that the ASG isn't really worth it.
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>>69517665
Pretty relevant to discuss your team's postseason pitching when discussing your team's postseason pitching desu :^)
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>>69517680
Reminder that Arenado forgot the number of outs and failed to run out grounder resulting in a double play
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>>69517595
What did he mean by this?
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Kek

Can one man be so based?
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>>69517721
how can one man be so unclutch
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>>69517721
>MULTIPLE ENTRIES
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so where were all these KC fans before tonite?
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>>69517579
Gets his shit pushed in by the doyers regularly what's your point?
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Giants fan here, who gets homefield if 2 NL teams make it to the World Series?
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>>69517780
posting a lot more than a mongol rape babby has been
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>>69517798
doesnt matter because new york is definitely getting to the eries
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>>69517689

>brings up another pitcher to try and defend the shittiness of the first pitcher

how can one fanbase be so deluded?
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>>69517800
> flag bantz
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this nigga hella slow
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>>69517817
no we're gonna trade off even and odd years with the jints
we'll take the odd ones
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BTW Terry wanted to make sure every team was represented but no Met played today kek
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>>69517780
They don't appear until "their" team wins. Literally won't post in a game thread where they're not winning unless they take a lead/walkoff.
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Mike Moustakas leads the entire major leagues in home runs
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>>69517780
Mongols are the most powerful race desu
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>>69517854
you would think the defending champions had even half a dick and a single ball
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>>69517854
I live in Kansas. There are a shit ton around here now for some reason.... This city never cared about baseball before.... hmmm
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>>69517882
Scary but true
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>>69517823
>how can one fanbase be so deluded?
It's what happens when you win 3 WS championships in 6 years but still can't get more attention than LA
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where the fuck even is a kansas

i know lowtax has there but that it is
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>>69517838

what a bum
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>>69517927
Look in middle of the US.... Right in the middle.
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the san francisco giants will win the 2016 world series
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>>69517927
Lowtax lives in Independence, Missouri. The Kansas City Royals play in Kansas City, Missouri. The entirety of Missouri were Cardinals fans before 2014.

t. True Kansas Fan Fuck The Red Birds
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>>69517927
there's literally nothing to do in kansas except watch the kansas university basketball team
that's what their state is known for
also tornado alley
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>>69517927
if you look up "fly-over state" in the dictionary, you will see a picture of Kansas
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>>69517959
Wichita here. I can confirm this place is really boring. The cost of living here makes up for it all.
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>>69517959
We're known for The Wizard of Oz, which includes tornadoes. We also are known for growing wheat. We're also home to any Royals fans from before late season 2014.
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Reminder rags fans are this fucking insecure.
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>>69517985
Did you know the Wizard of Oz was filmed in Oklahoma?
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>>69517973
Truly so. Living the slow life out here in cow country. It's pretty comfy, honestly.
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>Nlel
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i like hemingway, hemingway is from kc

at least its not arkansas, the state os x thinks is misspelled.
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>>69517998
I didn't! Did you know that Mike Moustakas has more home runs than any other hitter in Major League Baseball?
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>>69518029
Actually I just looked it up. It was all filmed in Los Angeles.... my bad. And fuck the Royals
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>>69518027
arkansas is degenerate hillbilly country
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>mest
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>>69517823
....where is the delusion? That poster seemed to be implying that Cueto's history of pitching in the postseason (which I don't, and didn't deny) would hurt us in the postseason, yet we also have a great postseason pitcher, so that pretty much evens that out. Just pointing that out

>>69517782
I mean...he has a career 2.57 ERA vs the Dodgers, so not really
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>>69518039
Please don't bully me.
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>>69518047
some intern probably got fired over this
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>>69518046
so i may find wife there? thank you
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>>69518047
kek
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>>69518047
I don't get it>>69518062
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>>69518093
Look how they spelled his name
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>Hosmer MVP
>Not Perez with go ahead 2 run homer
>Not Kluber with the win
>Not literally any defensive player that converted an out on a ball they should have fielded while runners in scoring position

Explain this.
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>>69518093
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>>69518099
XD ebin
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>>69518103
How is the award decided?
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>>69518103
>>Kluber with the win
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>>69518103
Or should I say (((who))) decides who gets the MVP?
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>>69518103
Everything they did regarding this game was to sell merchandise. Someone decided Hosmer's face would sell more merchandise than Kluber's.
And now presenting CHEVROLET chevy all star chevy super truck chevy STEEL! Real man's truck MVP Eric Hosmer
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>>69518103
2 for 3 with 2 RBI and a HR > 1 for 2 with 2 RBI and a HR
Kluber did nothing special
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>>69518103
Who cares the all star game is a fucking joke. It's retarded they allow it to have such an impact on the outcome of the world series when players say they're just going to throw meatballs in there and hope their friends crush 500 footers
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>"nice crocs fag lol"

What did he mean by this?
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>>69518128
b-but he did oniichan
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You now remember David Ortiz
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>>69518147
He means people who wear crocs are fags. Don't be retarded
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>>69518145
Relax, David.. You didn't actually think Jose would do it right?
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>>69518161
>
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> Reddick
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>all star game decides home advantage
>the real teams say ``not to day''
?giantes win it all again
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>>69517959
Was stationed at Fort Riley for five years. Can confirm Kansas is literally a wasteland.
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>>69518168
DELET THIS
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>>69518156
Shame Brach didn't get a shot. Dude is more legit than Britton, tbqh
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>baseball already half over
where did the season go lads?
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fuck its so hard to care

please come back good baseball, npb and kbo can only sustain me for so long
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why does he have to retire ;_;
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>>69518348
Because even steroids cant beat old age.
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>>69518356
he's on pace to have his best season of his career
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>>69518168
is this SOLER or not
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>>69518369
>He's on PACE
is that the brand name of the steroids?
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>>69518411
weird how people yell steroids any time anybody does good in this sport anymore
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>>69518369
Yes, steroids tend to do that.
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>>69518427
So do cry babies
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>>69518420
>any time anybody does good in this sport

Also, he was literally caught using steroids.
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>>69518420
>50 year old fatso having a career year
>manlet doubling his power after joining a team known for steroid users
>average pitcher that increased velocity 5 mph
h-hey guys s-stop it with this steroid meme
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>>69518468

>one time
>13 years ago
>among the most tested in the game since
>never had a positive match for the rest of his career
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Is Kershaw roiding? Back problems and rage moments are a sign.
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>>69518356
>>69518411
>>69518427
>>69518468
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Reminder that David "Needles" Ortiz literally used steroids from 1997-2003 and then again in 2016
This is a known fact
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>>69518518
>when asked what supplements he had been taking, he said he did not know

Kek
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...so what now lads
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>>69518738
Give the trophy to the Rangers and wait for the Cowboys season.
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>>69518743
fuck yourself

But before you do that, can you tell me what's up with Josh Hamilton? Did he drink himself to death or what? I'm honestly asking
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>>69518743
>rags
>cowgirls
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>>69518738
ootp
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>>69518819
What?
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>>69518828
baseball simulator
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David
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>>69518878

Cone
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>>69518878
That's him
That's my guy
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Who is the best player not from the Americas, Korea, or Japan?
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>>69518878
You are having way too much fun with this shit fampai
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>>69517561
That's cool I guess. How do you even score a win when there's 9 pitchers?
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>>69519028
Active player? Chien-Ming Wang maybe
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>>69519083
You happen to be the pitcher of record when offense decides to git gud. Like most bullpen guys.
Hamlels did well too, but Klubot was in when all the dingers happened so there you go.
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>>69519103
him or maybe peter moylan

ironically both are on the royals
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>>69519028
Greg Halman could have been
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>>69517452
Collins probably did that to give the Mets a rest
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>>69517574
>He wanted to wear out everyone else so that his team would be fully rested
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>>69518958

David Cone had TOS. Ron Coomer gave a crazy anecdote about him on the air the other day. Whichever year Coomer was an All-Star, so was David Cone and he already had TOS but not enough was known about it at the time. Basically, right after Cone's name was said in the pre-game stuff, he took off to start playing long-toss to warm up his arm. He did it for 45 minutes, just to loosen up, and just to pitch a single inning in the All-Star game.

Long story short, Matt Harvey is fucked.

>>69518964

He's such a cool dude, man. Can't believe. Wow.

>>69519030

Perhaps I am, but serious question: have you forgotten about DAVID ORTIZ yet?

>>69519084

Oh shit, that guy!
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>>69519152

Greg Halman was like the bad version of Giancarlo Stanton. Shame he got stabbed and all. Never would've been like DAVID ORTIZ, though.
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Is there any media attention given to the all lives matter line in the Canadian anthem? Our media is being extra race baiting and blowing this non story up
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>>69519305
>DAVID ORTIZ
A real treasure. A superstar!
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>>69517574
>an elite womens college athlete can be 5'6
my sides
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>>69519328
wait and see what the lefty rags print about it in the morning
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>>69517721
kershaw looks like a freak without a beard
>dads booing us as if we have a rivalry
>>69517394
>claiming to like baseball
>not subbing to MILB.TV to watch all your teams top 10 prospects develop day to day
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>>69519370
IF I SEE THAT FUCKING BUTT ONE MORE TIME
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Would anyone like a wojack? I just started my night shift
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>>69519328

All I've read was that Canada was having a field day with this. Basically, the anthem was disrespected. Here, no one really cares yet. We're probably more preoccupied with worrying about DAVID ORTIZ.
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>>69519328
BLMers here care not for babsel. May be bothered to reblog it tomorrow because OMG MY BELIEFS ARE TRENDING
Canadian media gonna get the heat for it since you already quelled of their protests like aces. (Muh Demands)
May also be because your tenor voiced the absolute truth honestly
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>>69519370

>muh prospects
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>>69519586
Where do you think tomorrow's Major League players come from?
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>>69519598
Dominican Republic
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>>69519613
Exactly. Aren't they prospects before they play in the Major Leagues?
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GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
IT'S STILL N(O)T FRIDAY
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>>69519661
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0
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>>69519643
I'm not following.
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>>69519685
Burn in hell
That wasn't the tune at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Vr9LRszGM

DUAL BASE-STEALING!!!
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>Heard Miguel Cabrera asked Ned to leave Hosmer in for chance at MVP.
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Who's getting an exhibit in Cooperstown this year, /mlb/ ?

>Correct answers:
Bagwell
Raines
Hoffman
I-Rod
maybe Schilling
maybe Mussina
maybe Vlad
Manny, Barry and Roger will all stall for another year because of roidfags, but aside from >Hoffman, that's a really impressive Hall class if they all make it (not all will, but the top 4 are guarantees)
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>>69519375
PawSox pls
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>>69519946
>implying everyone on that list wasn't juicing
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jawsh dahnelson
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>>69519989
Lil Joshy Roids we call him
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>>69520009
t. jose tyreekus hernandez
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>>69519375
storm chasers
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>>69519989
Baster Poesy
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>>69520009
delete this
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>>69519989
Pig Bappi
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thalbador pereth
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See no repercussions at all.
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>>69520660
The ride never ends
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>>69520660
Kris Bycan't- field-third's sparkly teef tho
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>>69519328
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/mlb-all-star-game-2016-all-lives-matter-o-canada-anthem-tenors-michael-saunders-remigio-pereira/
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Guys, was the winning formula for the AL was having no red sox pitchers? I mean it seems pretty smart not have them ruin the game like they do their own.
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>>69517854
I post all the time when I am not working. So weekend games but I follow the threads. Doesn't help that someone got the cell towers near my work banned from posting for requesting illegal shit.

Bite me
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AAA > MLB
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>15 days
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Was cueto exposed? Is he done?
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>>69522115
Lame park.
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>>69522170

so i've been told, but i'm a fan so what else can i do
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>>69522219
don't get shot in the 313 my koala friend, have fun.
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>>69522219
Are you going to a different continent simply to visit Detroit? Top kek
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Reminder the Orioles went 0-5 in the all star game
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>>69522122
>Is he done?

as long as NL teams exist he will never be done
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>>69522285

fucking oath i am. i keep hoping they won't sell at the deadline but i don't think teams will be calling about jarrod saltalamacchia or mike aviles. maybe they can flip aviles to get don kelly back?
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>>69517838
he literally didn't run it out (he's retarded)
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>>69522307
Sox had 4 hits
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I wish the AL and NL were two distinct different leagues again.

Thanks "Bud" Selig.
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>>69522342
is four more than zero?
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>>69522377
I know. I kinda like the interleague weeks where we could all laugh at the NL getting ass raped and then go back to watching actual baseball again.
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>>69522377
I agree. It would be way better if there was no interleague play. Having 2 teams in the world series from different leagues would be hype as fuck.
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>>69522410
Interleague was a meme to just excite fans after the strike. It's not needed anymore desu. My New Yorker coworker tells me about a yearly exhibition at the end of the season between the Mets and Yanks and how it was fun.

Interleague cheapens the All-Star game and WS imo
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>>69522434
Its true. This forced interleague play is getting old. And like you said it raises the value of the WS and ASG because the 2 leagues would only compete during these games.
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>>69522463
would the owners ever agree to going back to league only play? i would imagine it presents more of an opportunity to stay playing on the same seaboard and reduces travel costs
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There is literally nothing wrong with going to beat up the ninny leaguers a couple times a year at their own game, why do you guys hate fun?

Also bring back the 9 game WS
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is it possible to die from humidity
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is it possible for all Canadians and Calironians to stop shitting up every general
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Excellent. Now when the Rangers reach the World Series they arent gonna fall prey to that Pitcher Hitter meme the BabbyLeague has been trying to force down everyone's throat and continue to ignore natural progress of the sport

Rangers beat the Pirates 4-2 in the World Series
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>>69522508
Its all about shekels my friend
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>Fox doesnt show our anthem
>it's like they knew it would get fucked up

Fox false flag?
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>>69522759
It's more like we don't care if we offend you, because you're nobodies.
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>>69522772
Strong words coming from someone who thinks the anthems still need to be played.
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>>69522600
>pirates
>getting past syndergaard or kershaw in the WC
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>>69522772
Where's the Dominican anthem and the Venezuelan anthem? They're the countries that actually carry US teams to the World Series
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>>69522816
Same reason

American National anthem only one that matters
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>>69522772
GOT HEEEEEEEEM
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>>69522816
>literally only two Canadians on a "Canadian" team
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>>69522826
Guess you guys need the anthem to be the only thing that matters since none of your players do
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>>69522893
>Canadian team
>plays in the AMERICAN league

kek
KEK
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>>69517948
Literally this. Outside of the KCMO radio bubble, until late 2014, was solid Cards territory. Kansas, except for like a two or three county stripe down the Colorado side of the stateam being Rockies fans, has always been Royals country. It even extends some into Nebraska, though that can possibly attributed to the Storm Chasers, the Royals Minor Leauge team, being in Ohmha.
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>>69522600
>rags
>WS
>ONE
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>>69523902
Yes the Rags will win One world series title before 2016 is over

Your point?
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>>69522042
>tfw I cant post dodgers butt game threads as much this year since I watch the first few innings with my gram grams since pop pop just died and I dont think my 92 year old grandma has much time left
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>>69523944
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>>69523944
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go1raoqHZkU
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>>69519028
Wei Yin Chen probably
Max Kepler is looking pretty good lately
Didi Gregorius was born in Amsterdam before moving to curacao
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>>69524070
>>69524087
That has nothing to do with the current season. Please stop living in the past and posting videos of a game your team wasn't a part of. It's kinda sad.
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>>69524070
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>>69524134
>>69524138
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>>69524152
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>>69524138
>talking about fatasses
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>>69524134
>Please stop living in the past
Well, presently, The >RAGS have zero (0 [zip] <nada> {not-a-one}) WS titles.
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Help me understand something /mlb/

>Yankees: MUH 27 RINGS
>/mlb/: stop living in the past faggot

>Rangers: MUH BEST RECORD IN AL RIGHT NOW
>/mlb/: ONE STRIKE AWAY >rags

???????
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>>69524152
>that fucking squat
>literally too fat to tag up on a fly out that may as well have been at the track
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>>69524248
1926 is the past.
2011 is not the past.
Retarded Texas education.
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>>69524248
Yankees are the best team in baseball with a history of success including recent success. Rags are just like dodger fans pretending the regular season matters
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>>69524192
That is true. But they have also have maintained as one of the best teams in baseball over the last 5-6 years so a logically they have a better chance than most the league at Winning one soon :^)
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>>69524296
>Skankees
>Best
Slow down there gramps. Stop living in the past.
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>>69524394
2009 is not the past
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>>69524407
I think it's safe to say the Era of Yankees being the dominant Baseball team is over. Steinbrenner can't shell out money due to being dead (good riddance) and Cashman is practically inept at keeping a franchise good.

We are now living in an Era where the Yankees are mediocre. And this will last for a few decades. What a time to be alive
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>>69524407
>8 years ago
>not the past
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Help me understand something /mlb/

>Yankees supposedly have the largest fan base
>all star game starters are decided by fan vote
>no Yankee players started yesterday

?????
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>>69524503
people in real cities have more important things to do than vote for a meme ASG
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>>69524503
They went to the mets now. Also, maybe McCann was the only the yankee that could have been at the game but wasn't. I still remember in the mid-late 2000's where most of the starting AL team were either Yankees or Sox players
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>>69524532
Do teams in ''''''''real''''''' cities have more important things to do than make the playoffs?
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>>69524532
>implying this harlot could name a single active Yankee player
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>>69524595
why do you slut shame girls who never asked for a huge rack?
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>>69524608
Wow why would you call her a sl*t you shitlord?
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>>69524608
I would never slutshame a girl just for having a huge rack.

I would never slutshame a girl for wearing a shirt like that, but I'd talk to her and see if she was down to mess around.

If she said she wasn't looking to get with anyone, then fucked the bartender in the bathroom, THEN I'd slutshame her.

And also the bartender, in that situation.
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What do I do for the next 2 days?
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>>69525233
Vancover Canadiens radio games
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>>69522536
Why don't the rest of you faggots just post more?
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What he mean by this?
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Is he the GOAT?
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Its funny how the royals are getting all the credit. I get the home runs but the red sox players got on base consistently all night and scored half of the runs for the AL team, but not even a mention on that ESPN front page article?

God damn ESPN is complete trash
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>>69525596
>caring this much about an all star game
Shut the fuck up, okay?
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>>69525596
>getting on base is just as easy as hitting a home run
Just how stupid are you?
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>>69525422
He wanted to out himself as an idiot
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>>69525596
because two royals players scored three of their team's four runs. confirmed for baaaston faggot scum
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>>69525233
Center your baseball chakras. Pray for the Toronto Blue Jays. Watch old baseball games and highlights on YouTube. Check out baseball books from the library
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>>69525662
>>69525767
>>69525828

No im shitting on ESPN for not even mentioning the red sox, Im just saying the red sox had half the hits the AL had

damn you guys can't take any mention of boston without fucking freaking out huh?
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>>69525431

>the show screenshots
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>>69519375
white sox
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>>69525596
ESPN has always been cancer, your fault for even looking at it. I don't care about the roys getting the attention.. I care about the pitcher with the lowest ERA in the entire AL not even getting an inning in the All Star Game. Like what the fuck was that all about? Yost being an old baseball prick or what?
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>>69525979
MLB is pitchist against knucklers
Dickey getting the Cy years ago was just them appeasing SJW hordes
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>>69519375
cubs too
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>>69525922
It has nothing to do with the red sox. You're just being so petty.
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>>69526052
>>69526052
yeah but at least he got to pitch in the game, even if it was the 6th inning.

What more does Wright have to do to pitch in the all star game?
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>>69526387
If he stays this good next season (he won't) people will buy into him.
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>>69526387
Every time betts bogaerts or JBJ came up to bat the announcers sucked their dick uncontrollably. I really have no idea why youre being such an entitled baby.
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>>69526712
You forgot....
DAVID ORTIZ
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>>69526728
Well I get why they did it for Ortiz. He's a potential HOFer and it's his last season. At some points it got nauseating but I do understand.
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>I unironically give more than one fuck about the All-Star Game and that one fuck isn't reserved for "WS home-field advantage"
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>>69526066
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>>69525596
because at face value it was the Royals v. the Cubs
if you go deeper it was really the Royals and Red Socks v. the Cubs and Giants
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>your team
>deadline moves you would like to see

>blue jays
>some form of controllable middle tier starters and BP arms. Hector Santiago is a dude I wouldn't mind them trying to acquire. Fuck this drew pomeranz noise the padres are gonna ask for way too much.
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>>69527438
>who's
>Get rid of avi. I don't care how, just do it. Also, bring in a catcher who knows how to frame a pitch
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>>69527475
Asking too much son
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>>69527565
>there are still people that think hahn is running the show
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>>69527438
>Indians
>Michael Brantley at 1000% health and playing with his bros again (pic is me)

But seriously one or two reliable bullpen arms would be nice. Aside from Gomes and Gimenez being unable to hit, which will be fixed (hopefully) when Perez returns, I'm very happy with the line-up and wouldn't move anything.
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>>69528377
Lucroy seems like a no brainer for the Indians if you ask me. Low salary and he's got another year on his contract. Not to mention that dude can hit.
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>Ned Yost, who is on our flight this morning, said Miguel Cabrera came up to him and said "Hosmer has a chance to be the MVP, give him one more at-bat". Hosmer kept saying he wouldn't, that Miggy should play, and the Triple Crown winner refused. The Royals' first baseman claimed MVP honors last night.

>all the people giving yost shit
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>tfw royals get gud on the road after the deadline and make wildcard
>tfw royals are down 5 in the WC game in the 8th inning and make a meme comeback

I-it's happening r-right guys?
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>>69528435
It might! Yesterday may have woken up the magic. I'm excited for the second half.
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>>69517882
>win made up games "most valuable player"
>win a pickup truck (kek)
>it's a Chevy (wholehearted kek)

America everyone
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bWAR or fWAR and why?
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>>69528435
Probably not. Better chance of taking the division I would think.
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>>69528746
bwar for pitching
>Muh strikeouts

Batting is like the same
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>>69528746
fWAR because Fangraphs is the foremost authority on sabermetrics
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>>69527438

>cusbs
>pweeg

because without schwarber we only have two decent outfielders and i don't want to put kris in the outfield
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>>69528842
Fuck no, Puig is barely an upgrade over Soler and NOT an upgrade over Baez (which, yes shifts Bryant to LF). Not to mention he comes with serious make up questions (he's a clubhouse cancer). And I'm sure the Dodgers will ask for a king's ransom in return.

Yes Schwarber got hurt in LF, but that was a freak injury. It's irrational to think Bryant is any more likely to get injured in LF than he is at 3B.
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>>69528982
Its a shame how mentally weak puig is. He's a genetic specimen and has obvious god tier athletic ability. If he wasn't such a child and took his job serious he'd be a superstar.
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>>69527438
>Pirates
>trade prospects for one decent starting pitcher, move Locke to the pen, and move Niese anywhere that isn't on the roster
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>>69527438
>Mariners
>Make Cishek the ace
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>>69527438
>Cubs
>late inning lefty reviler

our hitting is fine, our starting pitching is (was) the best in the league

after the last month, some people will say we need another starter but the way I see it
>A. The rotation regains it's form (not as good as it was first 2.5 months, but still among the best in the league)
>B. The rotation keeps playing like shit, in which case it's really a lost cause and no single trade acquisition will save it
I do think A is more likely
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>>69527438
>White Sox
>Sigh..... why bother? This team is a dumpster show, and I've been saying that since day one. Bandwagon casual fans got excited for this team, but real White Sox fans knew that we suffer. Real and honest White Sox fans have never been given a chance, or had anything to cheer about in our lives. It's time to sell the farm and the team.
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>>69529258
Stop speaking for me faggot. I still think they'll make the playoffs.

As for moves. I'd give the farm for Lucroy right now
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>>69529294
I'm surprised the bandwagon is still here after witnessing the dumpster show all real White Sox fans knew this team would become.
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>>69527438
>O's
>Starters who are not named Ubaldo Jimenez
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>>69529311
KILL YOURSELF YOU CANCEROUS FAGGOT

worst fans on /sp/
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>>69529331
You do realize that's an obvious false flag right?
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>>69529311
>Bandwagon
I've been here for years faggot. Every thread, every day
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>>69529362
No one cares you fucking faggot
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>>69529399
Mad for no reason at a 2 above .500 team.

Okay.
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>>69528656
>choosing a pickup over a bitchin camaro
That long hair don't cover that red neck, boy
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Post meme players that have more rings than Clayton Kershaw. I'll start.
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>>69529844
Stephen Oris Drew
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>>69529844
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>>69529949
POKEY
O
K
E
Y
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>>69529844
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>>69529844

Did brayan villareal get one from 2013? His only appearance was a 4 pitch walk off walk so he qualifies
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>>69530014
I could never tell if this is a reseeding hairline or a massive fucking forehead.
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>>69530230
And by reseed I mean receding
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>>69530230
Definitely receding hairline. He just tries to hide it lol
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>>69530333
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>>69530357
There comes a time when it's better to go bald and he passed it inches ago
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>>69530389
All that stress from being trusted with 2014 Pirates' season got to him.
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>>69529844
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If fans were the sole voters on Hall of Fame players, which meme players would be elected this year? pic related

and speaking of Curse-breaking meme players...
>>69529949
>grounder to second, Reese's got it, AND THE RED SOX HAVE WON THE PENNANT!
good feels despite that injury pic
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Anybody gonna watch the Triple AAA all star game? Might as well I guess
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>even acknowledging Griffey's time with the White Sox

disgusting
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>If the Yankees move either Andrew Miller or Aroldis Chapman, Indians are sleepers: Cleveland has motive, need, and prospects to make a deal.
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>>69530682
I get you can never have enough pitching, but they could use another impact bat opposed to another reliever.
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>>69530568
also just noticed Edgar Renteria on this year's ballot for the first time. The only player to ever be part of the last play in two World Series as both a winner (singled in the winning run over Charles Nagy's head in 1997 vs. the Indians) and a loser (grounded out to Keith Foulke in 2004).
That's probably the only notable thing about him, too.
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>>69530672
It's the most swiggidy swag gangsta straight outta Compton real nigga hat
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>>69529844
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>>69529844
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>>69530710
2300 hits is certainly "notable". He won't get in though
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>>69529844
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>>69530806
yeah, he'll get dropped like it's cold, same with Cabrera and Reese.
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>>69529844
this faggot. 3 more, as a matter of fact
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>Stare down
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>>69530940
This fat peice of shit will end up with more rings than 90% of players.
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>>69531052
try >99.9999999999%, there's been like 20,000 players in MLB history
>Pandoval will retire with more rings than Ken Griffey Jr., Barry Bonds, Cal Ripken Jr., and Mike Schmidt combined
and yes, that's just me picking 5 random GOAT-of-GOAT Hall of Famers. Ripken and Schmidt each have one WS win.
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if have to see this bullshit one more time...
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>>69531277
make that 4 HoFers
>me in charge of counting
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>>69531277
what qualifies as a player though
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>>69530672
I saw him hit a home run in person back in 2008 at the Cell. One of those great memories.
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>>69529844
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>>69530940
World Series MVP beeyotch!!!

You mad tho?
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>>69531482
>>
>griffey tried to commit suicide with 277 pills of advil (lol) when he was 18 years old

w e w
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>>69531779
And where were you when you were 18?
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>>69531835
somewhere knowing that household painkillers are a terrible way to try and off yourself?
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>>69531835
>were 18
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gib prospects
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>>69531968
You had them. You have Shelby Miller now.
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>>69531987
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>mfw I see Casey McGehee in the triple AAA all star game
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literally dont know what to do with myself lads
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elbow/shoulder
elbow/arm fatigue
elbow
good
fat
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rags just won the WS in my OOTP save too
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Tommy John is literally always worth it

have your kids throw hard don't listen to the libs telling you it's an epidemic

it's medical progress
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>>69532288
>Tommy John is literally always worth it

>mfw you have to search "brandon webb baseball" to get the right Brandon Webb
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>>69532077
Watch the AAA all star game, you pleb
>>
>>69532397
It's pretty boring lad. It's better than nothing though
>>
I like the cicadas. Real minor league feel
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>>69531658
>>69531658
as if.
>>
Man, neither side won that Montero/Pineda trade
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>>69530895
>Cabrera and Reese

Who are you talking about?
>>
>WBC commercials

Who hype here, I love the wbc
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>>69532397
I went and watched the co-ed rec softball game across the street instead

hilariously bad

I have concluded that girls are always the weakest link
>>
Can the NL just die already? I mean all of the active /sp/ fanbases are terminal cancer

>Mest
>Cusb
>Jints
>Doyers

I like how literally zero Cards fans exist here too. Maybe they are the best fans in baseball after all
>>
>>69532658
Orlando Cabrera is on the ballot for the first time this year, as is Renteria, and was a meme player on the 2004 Red Sox. Pokey Reese was on that team, too, and he dropped off after one year I think.
>>
>>69532569
>2015-2016
>breakthrough athlete
he broke through in 2014
>>
>>69532816
In what universe would you think Pokey Reese should be mentioned in reference to the hall of fame?
>>
>>69532762
yankees
whos
indians
rags
>>
>>69532762
>good teams are cancer

Kek. Sorry your team sucks bro
>>
>>69531482

I was at the BLACK OUT tiebreaker game and that throw to home to get Cuddyer out was awesome. Perfect throw to BASED AJ.

Twinkies BTFO.
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>>69532935
See this kind of mentality and response is exactly why your fans are so bad.
>>
>>69533031
Who is your team?
>>
>>69533031

too bad he's right, fans of shit teams are always jealous of successful temas because :wahhh muh fans are rude"

eat shit and die fag
>>
>>69533018

http://www.sbnation.com/hot-corner/2013/9/30/4787544/the-forgotten-game
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>>69533045
Rockies but that's hardly relevant here. Stick to the discussion.
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>>69533113
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>>69533113
It is relevant actually. Of course you're mad at the Giants and Dodgers lol. Do you think it's a coincidence that you listed two NL West teams?

>hates National League
>roots for national league team

What are you even doing?
>>
>>69532914
man, go back and read the conversation. I'm not saying Reese is a Hall of Famer except in a very, very strange universe (has to be one out there, right?) Cabrera and Renteria are new HoF balloteers this year. All three were in the 2004 World Series as meme players. Anything I missed?
>>
>>69533151
that is a fantastic picture. higher-res and I would get a canvas print to hang on the wall.
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Damn, I just got home and a double rainbow appears after the storm.

Perhaps this is a good sign sent by none other than DAVID ORTIZ that everything is gonna be alright.
>>
YANKEES SUCK
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>>69533261
>>69533261
>>69533261
>>69533261

lol i see what you did there
>>
>>69533261

#BREXIT
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>>69532239
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>>69532919
you literally forgot about the worst fanbase in the AL
>>
>>69533341
Blue Jays or Red Sox?
>>
>>69532935
>His team is 6-15 since June 20th

Whatever you say
>>
>>69533415
the one with 5 aces
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>>69533216
I love the contrast between the players' and the fans' emotions
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>>69533416
No...they're not
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>fanbase wars again

Man we need baseball.

How about at least some baseball discussion?

Cs and the trade deadline. Which catchers will be on the trading block and where's their possible destinations?
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>>69533498

lucroy is basically it. rangers still in the water for him?
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>>69533530
Lucroy

Rangers will run away with him.

World Series when?
>>
guise

im bought ootp on steam and it isnt working

wat do
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>>69533615
He said in multiple interviews he doesn't want to play in Texas
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>>69533453
so the Cubs?

>>69533498
Either Blake Swihart (who will marketed as a catcher as well a LF) or Christian Vazquez will be traded. At this point it's way more likely Swihart goes. We'll also trade Ryan Hanigan for a few dozen of your local delicacies for the rest of the team.
>>
>>69533659
A-Rod didn't want to play in Texas at first, either. Money talks.
>>
>>69533700

>worst AL fanbase
>"so the Cubs?"
>the city of (You)
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>>69533652
kys
>>
>>69527438
might as well just get it over with and trade bautista
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>>69533720
He would be traded though, not signed
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>>69533931
Is this his last year or something?
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>>69533948
He's a hell of a player. A hell of a ball player.
>>
>>69533165
>The rookies have been to the World Series more recently than the doyers
kek
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>>69533931
steroids
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>>69533908
>trading A-Rod
oh man, you've got me thinking about that 30 for 30 now.
>tl;dr before A-Rod signed with the Yankees, Theo Epstein almost traded Manny Ramirez to the Rangers for him
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Looks like the Marlins are going to be buyers this year. I've been reading talks about Drew Pomeranz, Sonny Gray , and Jake Odorizzi for a trade.

I think Drew might better for the Marlins low-zone pitching, but that could just be me. Any thoughts on these three pitchers?
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>>69534057
Yes, but, consider this:

David Ortiz
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>>69533327
and again...

reeeeeee
>>
What the herck happened to Sonny Gray
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>>69534052
so have the
>barves
>marlels
>lillies
>resd
>dads
>mest
>d-bags
>gints
>cards
>asstros (at the time)

>muh parity
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>>69534093
>marlins have a $73 million payroll

how are they even semi contending
>>
>>69533931
clutch af
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>>69534211
Giancarlo and Fernandez
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>>69534093
Odorizzi would be the marlins smartest move. He's controllable and hasn't even hit arbitration yet. Not to mention he's way more affordable considering the year he's had. I just wish the rays weren't in the same division as the jays or else I would hope they would go for him.
>>
>>69534211
the barfs and lillies are that bad.
>>
>>69533931

Oh shit, THAT guy!

>>69534117

Fuck, good point, man.
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Well, if you look at the 2003 payroll, they've always been a budget team. Just they find people like >>69534242 said in the draft and they push their way in.
>>69534243
>Controllable
Sounds like what they need, they're pretty adamant about the low-zone. Even messing with Chen's style and screwing him up. Don't know who they'll choose, desu.
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Is Adrian Beltre a hall of famer?
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>>69534334
He's also a pretty legit pitcher. He's having a rough year but he's so much better than this. Change of scenario might help him. Also getting him the fuck out of my division is okay with me.
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>>69534372
you bet your ass he is
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>>69534404
I don't think Rays are much of an issue for a while, their quality is going to be "devil rays" it seems. I'd be worried about the O's and Soxs.
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>>69534510
they're just falling off because Maddon's gone
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>>69534510
I know but good pitching is always annoying to play against. The problem with the rays this year is their pitching has not been good. They have zero offense so it's no wonder they fucking suck.
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WTF!? Since when is Alex Rodriguez from new york city?

I thought for sure he was from the dominican republic or venezuela

this is some spooky shit
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>>69534557
yeah, he and Manny Ramirez both grew up in Washington Heights, a few blocks from each other
>>
Ever since Brandon Crawford, Best Shortstop in the MLB, didn't get into the All-Star Game, I decided not to watch it.
>>
>>69534582
>>69534557
Manny was born in the DR, though
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>>69534557
That motherfucker is dominican and grew up in miami. He might have been born in NYC but he was raised in the ghetto's of the ghetto 305
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>>69534583
>Brandon Crawford
that's a funny way of spelling Xander Bogaerts
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>>69534582
Alex Rodriguez lived in the Dominican from 4 years old until fifth grade, and then moved to Miami
>>
>>69534652
No, he lived in nyc to age of 4 and moved to miami.
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>>69534541
Part of it could be that,but nothing really clicked either the year he decided to leave. They almost were fully .500 last year. With a team like that, everything needs to click. Just isn't going to work until they click again.
>>69534544
Nevertheless, looks like the AL east is having a challenge. Looking better than the NL East where the Mets are having injuries issues, Marlins struggle their way after a nice 3-1 series against the cubs. The nats hopefully will choke once again to make the Marlins win their first NL East title. Least, that's the dream.
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>>69534613
There's no X in Troy Tulowitzki, common misconception
>>
>>69534667
>>69534652
>>69534582
>>69534557
He was born in nyc but at the end of the day he is just another Miami baseball player he even went to columbus (private sports high school in miami)
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>yfwdrwdwe
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>>69534724
that's funny, there's no Z in Didi Gregorius, either. easy mistake to make.
>>
Guys there's still no baseball
>>
>tom loncecum
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>>69535408
gotta love that effort from Lackey
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>>69534895
But Corey Seager was in the all-star game.
>>
So I'm the guy doing the SABR Hall of Fame research, and I've finished what I think is for now.

The point is to create a hypothetical "SABR Hall of Fame", where the top 10 players from 1920-onwards (the live ball era) in either/both career JAWS or WAR are "automatic inductees", though the numbers change to 5 for relief pitchers and 30 for starters because of dearth and wealth of talent at their positions, respectively.

Here's the list of who'd make it, including active players. Note that any previous HOFers would be automatic ins as well (these guys are >meme-arrowed.)

The overall methodology, like the real-life voting process, is not perfect, and there are going to be some eyebrow-raisers and guys who clearly would not be worthy of the real Hall. But

>PITCHERS


>Starters
Roger Clemens
>Tom Seaver
>Lefty Grove
>Randy Johnson
>Greg Maddux
>Warren Spahn
>Bob Gibson
>Phil Niekro
>Bert Blyleven
>Steve Carlton
>Gaylord Perry
>Pedro Martinez
>Robin Roberts
>Fergie Jenkins
Curt Schilling
Mike Mussina
>Tom Glavine
>Nolan Ryan
>Jim Palmer
Wes Ferrell
>Bob Feller
>Hal Newhouser
Roy Halladay
>Juan Marichal
>Carl Hubbell
>Ted Lyons
>Red Ruffing
Rick Reuschel
>John Smoltz
Kevin Brown

>Relievers
>Dennis Eckersley
Mariano Rivera
>Hoyt Wilhelm
>Rich Gossage
Bobby Shantz
Tom Gordon


infielders coming in next post
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https://twitter.com/jessespector/status/753322142922571776

jesus christ
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>>69535492
>Roy Halladay
I miss him
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>>69535492

>Catcher

CATCHER (11)
>Johnny Bench
>Gary Carter
Ivan Rodriguez
>Carlton Fisk
>Mike Piazza
>Yogi Berra
>Bill Dickey
>Mickey Cochrane
Joe Mauer
Ted Simmons
>Gabby Hartnett
Hartnett is top 10 in WAR but not JAWS for catchers, so he's still in.


FIRST BASE (11)
>Lou Gehrig
Albert Pujols
>Jimmie Foxx
Jeff Bagwell
>Johnny Mize
>Frank Thomas
Jim Thome
Miguel Cabrera
Rafael Palmeiro
>Willie McCovey
>Eddie Murray
Same with Eddie Murray here.


SECOND BASE (11)
>Joe Morgan
>Charlie Gehringer
>Rod Carew
Bobby Grich
>Ryne Sandberg
>Jackie Robinson
Lou Whitaker
Chase Utley
>Roberto Alomar
>Craig Biggio
Willie Randolph
And Biggio and Randolph here.


THIRD BASE (10)
>Mike Schmidt
>Eddie Mathews
>Wade Boggs
>George Brett
Adrian Beltre
Chipper Jones
>Brooks Robinson
>Ron Santo
>Paul Molitor
Scott Rolen


SHORTSTOP (10)
Alex Rodriguez
>Cal Ripken, Jr.
>Robin Yount
>Arky Vaughan
>Ernie Banks
>Ozzie Smith
>Luke Appling
Alan Trammell
Derek Jeter
>Barry Larkin

Baseball-Reference counts A-Rod's primary career position as SS even though he's played more games at third by now.
>>
>>69535716

And the outfielders.


LEFT FIELD
Barry Bonds
>Ted Williams
>Rickey Henderson
>Carl Yastrzemski
>Al Simmons
Tim Raines
>Goose Goslin
Manny Ramirez
>Billy Williams
>Willie Stargell

Special note that because he's banned IRL, Pete Rose can't be on here, though he'd be #7 if he wasn't banned.


CENTER FIELD
>Willie Mays
>Mickey Mantle
>Ken Griffey, Jr.
>Joe DiMaggio
>Duke Snider
Carlos Beltran
Kenny Lofton
Andruw Jones
>Richie Ashburn
>Andre Dawson


RIGHT FIELD
>Hank Aaron
>Stan Musial
>Mel Ott
>Frank Robinson
>Roberto Clemente
>Al Kaline
>Reggie Jackson
Larry Walker
>Paul Waner
>Tony Gwynn

And remember, any other guys who made the Hall from 1920 to now are SABR HOFers too, for better or worse.
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>>69535492
>>69535716
>>69535821
David Ortiz
>>
>>69536152
I never said there couldn't be additional players beyond the listed ones and other current HOFers.
>>
>>69536152
He will probably get in, but if he gets in 1st ballot, ill lose all faith in the BBWAA and there will be a shitstorm brewing.
>>
>>69536295
He will
>>
>>69536295
what do you take issue with him being a potential first-balloter?
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>david ortiz will never be tested for steroids in his final season
>hes going to get away with it
>>
>>69536321
>why do you take issue with that?
ftfm
>>
>>69536321
Steroids
DH
>>
>>69536337
Getting caught was not part of his plan
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>>69536337
>he'll come back for one more season and get away with it again and have everyone lick his balls for another year
>>
>>69536344
>roids
there are already roiders in the Hall
>DH
plenty of HoFers were de facto DHs for most of their careers

he has plenty of other facets of his game and career that will help him to get in, most notably his postseason performance, and it's not like Jack Morris' case where the postseason resume leans on one incredible game.
>>
>>69536321
Its not him, its the writers. In general, they basically refused to let anyone in first ballot for anyone who was linked to PED's or during the "steroid" era. Ortiz failed the same drug test A rod did, but never got any flack for it. And yes, he did fail that spot sample test the MLB wanted but swore would never get leaked and there would be no concequences for anyone that tested positive.

Yet, this motherfucker is praised like a god when he did the same shit another 200 baseball players were doing at the same time.

So yea, i do have kinda a beef. But again, not with him, the BBWAA who allow ballplayers in.

Albert Belle deserves to be in but will never because he was an asshole.
Beltran deserves to be in because he was one of the best center fielders in the past 30 years, only behind Griffey.

So yeah......
>>
>>69536376
as a BoSox fan, I would not approve of such a plan. this is it for him, if he tries to play out next year he's going to be terrible like Jeter was in his last year
>>
>>69536388
So you do agree that Bonds belongs in the hall of fame more than David Ortiz right?
>>
>>69536394
>writers as voters
they all fucking suck, really. in the next 5 years there's gonna be at least 5, maybe even 10 deserving candidates who will get shafted because they have the slightest connection to roids.

Example–first year guy I-Rod was mentioned in Jose Canseco's book as a user. If he doesn't get in this one try, it'll be a fucking disgrace.

And if they're going to fuck over those guys while kicking out one guy (LeBatard) who puts together pretty much the ideal ballot with input from fans, then they really have no credibility at all.


>>69536459
I never mentioned Bonds but yes, because Barry is the greatest all-around position player of all-time, while Ortiz has barely played first base during his 14 years in Boston.
>>
>they tell me baseball is a white sport
>i find myself surrounded by beaners at both dodgers and angels games
you lied.
>>
>>69536510
>dodgers
You don't blame the fire because it's hot dumdum you blame yourself for touching it
>>
>>69536510
nothing is white in LA
>>
I know im gonna get flamed for this, but what the hay...

Everyone who ever wins the Cy Young or MVP should be in the Hall

If you also win 5 or more silver sluggers or gold gloves, you should automatically get included in the Hall
>>
>>69536548
You're right you'll get flamed because that's fucking stupid
>>
>>69536548
waaaaay too broad. This isn't the NBA. Here are some of the "luminaries" who would get in based on those criteria:

"Cy Youngs"
>Denny McLain
>Mike Cuellar
>Steve Stone
>Sparky Lyle
>John Denny
>Jack McDowell
>Pat Hentgen

"MVPs"
>Ryan Howard
>Ken Caminiti
>Willie McGee
>Dick Groat
>Maury Wills
>Jackie Jensen
>Marty Marion (widely considered one of the worst MVP choices in any of the 4 big American sports)

just... not a good measuring stick for Hall worthiness.
>>
>>69536601
JT Snow would also be a hall of famer for the gold gloves (I'm a Giants fan and he isn't a hall of famer, but he was one of my favorite players)
>>
>>69536628
I've heard a fair bit about Snow as he pertains to the HOF. was he known for being a really slick-fielding 1B like Keith Hernandez and Don Mattingly?
>>
>>69536548
Cy Young and MVP are for great seasons, the HoF is for great careers.
Also Gold Gloves are literally worthless, they're voted on by managers.
>>
>>69536642
Yeah, he was pretty great. Thing is, he wasn't a great hitter and didn't supply much power at a typical power spot. Giants fans who want him in the hall are a pretty biased and just loved him as a player, but don't think he's even close. First base isn't even an extremely valuable position defensively, but he was one of the best to do it
>>
>>69536686
*but I don't think
>>
>>69536548

>Pilatietta is a HOFer
>>
>>69536686
yeah, thing is, it's just so crowded a position compared to, say, CF, so nowadays you literally need to be on the level of prime Pujols for your whole career to even be considered for the HOF nod.

>>69536709
>Pilatietta
who?
>>
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>>69536725
>>>69536709 (You)
>>Pilatietta
>who?
>>
>>69536725
>yeah, thing is, it's just so crowded a position compared to, say, CF, so nowadays you literally need to be on the level of prime Pujols for your whole career to even be considered for the HOF nod

Yeah, that's what I'm saying
>>
>>69536739
>>69536709
oh
I get it now
>>
David Price belongs in the Hall of Fame
>>
>>69536792
youre silly
>>
>>69536792
>>69536799

so does David ORTIZ
>>
>>69536799
according to >>69536548
he would be
>>
new>>69536818
>>69536818
>>69536818
>>
Hay guise, so I heard they raised the bump limit...
>>
Good job.
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